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| 07:04.30 | kblin | hehe |
| 07:05.51 | kblin | there's a wine tool that aids you when installing games, and the tool's command line to install star wars: the force unleashed is "wisotool stfu" |
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| 07:09.19 | Upthorn | heh, nice. |
| 07:10.00 | Dark_Shikari | speaking of which, starcraft II on wine <3 |
| 07:10.33 | rohitr | starcraft II <3 |
| 07:10.57 | MostAwesomeDude | Meh. |
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| 07:14.50 | kblin | haven't tried it yet |
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| 07:22.28 | Dark_Shikari | go preorder, you can get a free beta key |
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| 07:23.56 | pygi | why are you so in for sc2? |
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| 07:24.02 | pygi | its just sc1 in 3D :D |
| 07:24.10 | pygi | hides |
| 07:24.19 | Dark_Shikari | better balanced |
| 07:25.16 | pygi | that's a fair reason, but I doubt first release will be that much better balanced =) |
| 07:26.02 | Dark_Shikari | what, you think they will make it worse before release? |
| 07:26.13 | Catfish_Man | pygi: also, warp prisms |
| 07:26.22 | Dark_Shikari | more importantly, phoenixes |
| 07:26.47 | Catfish_Man | I think we'll have to agree to disagree on relative awesomeness levels here |
| 07:26.50 | pygi | Catfish_Man, is that a transport? |
| 07:26.59 | Dark_Shikari | Catfish_Man: graviton beam! |
| 07:27.05 | Catfish_Man | pygi: that can turn into a pylon |
| 07:27.09 | Dark_Shikari | phoenixes are like an "I win the early midgame" button |
| 07:27.17 | Catfish_Man | pygi: then you can warp units into its energy field |
| 07:27.20 | pygi | Dark_Shikari, I have no idea, I don't have beta - I'd lose too much time :D |
| 07:27.26 | Dark_Shikari | "you attack me with 4 marauders? I pick them up!" |
| 07:27.44 | pygi | haha |
| 07:27.53 | Dark_Shikari | I pick up your milkshake, I pick it right up. |
| 07:28.19 | Dark_Shikari | also, if you charge them up for like 3 minutes |
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| 07:28.22 | pygi | I was actually thinking of getting collector's edition |
| 07:28.23 | Dark_Shikari | you can go ruin an entire scv line |
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| 07:29.20 | pygi | will have to see if amazon (or something else) ships outside US |
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| 07:32.57 | pygi | Dark_Shikari, are you in the us or? |
| 07:33.47 | pygi | sigh there are many nice games coming out lately |
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| 07:33.59 | pygi | civ5, sc2, diablo3 |
| 07:34.08 | Dark_Shikari | us |
| 07:34.21 | Dark_Shikari | I didn't preorder though, I got the beta key from a friend |
| 07:34.54 | pygi | you made me think about it tho :D |
| 07:35.02 | pygi | there must be a vendor that ships to europe as well :p |
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| 07:38.03 | MostAwesomeDude | I'll wait for a Linux version. |
| 07:38.21 | MostAwesomeDude | Or an OGL version, or a version that works with LAN play. Or a version that only costs $20 USD. |
| 07:38.42 | Dark_Shikari | it works quite fine under wine |
| 07:39.13 | MostAwesomeDude | As well as I get along with the Wine folk, I really wish we had more native games. |
| 07:39.25 | Dark_Shikari | it's much easier to get games working under wine than native |
| 07:39.30 | Dark_Shikari | in fact, here's a fun one |
| 07:39.35 | MostAwesomeDude | If you say so. |
| 07:39.38 | Dark_Shikari | it's easier to modify a game to get it working in wine |
| 07:39.41 | Dark_Shikari | than to modify wine |
| 07:39.49 | MostAwesomeDude | But it's much easier to write drivers natively than to make them work with Wine. |
| 07:40.11 | Dark_Shikari | since when does the kernel have to be wine-aware? |
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| 07:40.19 | MostAwesomeDude | Mesa is userspace. |
| 07:40.45 | Dark_Shikari | either way, it's an opengl implementation |
| 07:40.45 | MostAwesomeDude | And Wine is a consumer of esoteric extensions. BGRA arrays, provoking vert changes, weird GLSL features, etc. |
| 07:40.51 | Dark_Shikari | it abides by the opengl spec |
| 07:40.56 | Dark_Shikari | it implements what the spec says |
| 07:40.58 | MostAwesomeDude | Ha, no, we don't. |
| 07:41.03 | Dark_Shikari | if wine breaks it, then that means wine is wrong, or mesa is wrong |
| 07:41.38 | Dark_Shikari | now, yes, I know all about the hilarious hacks wine uses for windows compatibility in some cases |
| 07:41.42 | Dark_Shikari | like the segfault-driven texture renderer |
| 07:41.45 | MostAwesomeDude | Well, Wine's a real stressor of GL, period. There have been bugs between Wine and at least four different GL stacks (Mesa, Gallium, fglrx, nvidia). |
| 07:42.08 | Dark_Shikari | hardly surprising that something that uses X a lot finds bugs in X ;) |
| 07:42.09 | MostAwesomeDude | Also, Mesa/Gallium doesn't cover the entire spec. No stack does, for that matter; I doubt any stack still implements, say, color-index rendering. |
| 07:42.12 | Dark_Shikari | where X is, well, anything |
| 07:42.17 | MostAwesomeDude | X could even be X. |
| 07:42.21 | Dark_Shikari | indeed |
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| 07:44.57 | MostAwesomeDude | But yeah. Things might seem simple and straightforward, until you have things like, oh say, Wine #22000. |
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| 14:05.57 | mlankhorst | just wants gallium glsl :) |
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| 14:07.06 | MostAwesomeDude | We already have GLSL in Gallium. :3 |
| 14:08.10 | mlankhorst | aw, tf2 didn't pick it up then for my nv 9400 |
| 14:09.09 | MostAwesomeDude | Ah, nouveau? Can't remember if they turned on GLSL for those chipsets, but it seems to be working for most people. |
| 14:09.34 | mlankhorst | guessing it was turned off, tf2 mostly ran though |
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| 14:10.30 | MostAwesomeDude | TF2 still doesn't quite work yet on r300g, but it's almost there. |
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| 16:44.29 | mlankhorst | read the instructions? |
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| 17:06.57 | kblin | hm, once you get used to gnome, plain ubuntu isn't half bad |
| 17:07.29 | kblin | it's much less broken than kubuntu, that's for sure |
| 17:07.53 | kblin | probably due to millions of testers who wouldn't even be able to tell the difference |
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| 17:13.08 | robbyoconnor | HAHAHA @ the Students List |
| 17:13.26 | robbyoconnor | somebody wanted to have their names ranked higher on page rank because they got accepted |
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| 17:13.37 | robbyoconnor | do decent work and it will happen naturally. |
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| 17:14.33 | topfs2 | Hard to do that under an alias ;) google on my name won't get you to anything floss related :) |
| 17:15.41 | topfs2 | still, I agree, its stupid to get a higher page rank due to nothing |
| 17:15.51 | mlankhorst | awesome ;) |
| 17:16.24 | mlankhorst | finally found a workaround for pulse dying |
| 17:16.25 | mkarnicki | robbyoconnor: yea, that mail was most ridiculous I'd expect to pop up there.. |
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| 17:17.23 | robbyoconnor | mkarnicki: every year it happens |
| 17:17.33 | robbyoconnor | I vote him/her most likely to fail |
| 17:17.41 | robbyoconnor | due to the lack of common sense |
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| 17:18.32 | johang | I think all students should be listed on google.com frontpage |
| 17:18.44 | johang | with a custom doodle for a week |
| 17:18.45 | l1x | :D |
| 17:19.02 | mlankhorst | so reminds me of this xkcd |
| 17:19.05 | mlankhorst | http://xkcd.com/262/ |
| 17:19.22 | mlankhorst | hi im from the internet :) |
| 17:19.25 | smtms | johang, for a week? 1000+ students? |
| 17:19.41 | johang | smtms: yes! |
| 17:19.44 | johang | also, that was a joke |
| 17:20.13 | smtms | johang, low-quality one |
| 17:20.21 | timotei | johang, and also, with our avatars too |
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| 17:21.13 | mkarnicki | smtms: no, it was pretty good. have you read the mail from the -students-list? that one was low-quality ;) |
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| 17:21.48 | smtms | I'm doing myself a favour by not reading what's posted on the students list |
| 17:21.59 | mlankhorst | same |
| 17:22.03 | mlankhorst | i wonder if i can still access it |
| 17:22.37 | timotei | mlankhorst, the first day when read my email, I thought somebody acquired my e-mail address and spammed my entire inbox |
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| 17:22.50 | mlankhorst | haha :) |
| 17:22.54 | timotei | didn't looked at the titles/other info yet |
| 17:23.12 | robbyoconnor | I get abridged |
| 17:23.20 | robbyoconnor | just in case ajay misses one |
| 17:23.44 | robbyoconnor | still only one msg a day |
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| 17:24.03 | timotei | if I get abridged, I will surely miss something. better read all *spam* :D |
| 17:24.35 | robbyoconnor | timotei: read it on the site |
| 17:24.48 | robbyoconnor | 99% of that list is spam |
| 17:24.59 | robbyoconnor | (Been here for 3 years -- you figure this out quick) |
| 17:25.04 | timotei | well, I'm too lazy to pop up the browser, I use thundebird |
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| 17:25.23 | timotei | robbyoconnor, yeah, I knew eventually will happen like this |
| 17:25.38 | robbyoconnor | timotei: your gmail has a finite storage limit |
| 17:25.45 | robbyoconnor | GSoC will approach that limit |
| 17:26.05 | robbyoconnor | 100+ msgs a day I don't think is an insane amount |
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| 17:26.11 | timotei | well, google mail is increasing it's space constantly |
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| 17:26.31 | Leftmost | I just shunt it all into a subdirectory, periodically check for useful threads, and delete everything useless. |
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| 17:27.06 | timotei | You are currently using 171 MB (2%) of your 7450 MB. |
| 17:27.12 | timotei | it's still a lot of space |
| 17:27.21 | timotei | I would like to see it fill by the end of gsoc :D |
| 17:27.47 | topfs2 | the damn ML keeps draining my battery on my phone |
| 17:27.54 | robbyoconnor | not me. I've had my gmail for over 5 years now. |
| 17:29.07 | timotei | does the gmail account get deleted when its full?:)) |
| 17:29.20 | l1x | lol |
| 17:29.42 | Kosma | timotei: yess, it explodes ;D |
| 17:29.42 | l1x | no just when the NSA administrator deletes it accidentaly during an "investigation" |
| 17:30.09 | timotei | oops |
| 17:33.18 | Leftmost | Actually, its mass will be too large to sustain and it will collapse into a black hole, crushing your emails into quarks and sucking in emails from surrounding accounts. |
| 17:39.20 | robbyoconnor | no new emails will go to it |
| 17:39.25 | robbyoconnor | which is a problem |
| 17:39.44 | robbyoconnor | at least that's what I expect. |
| 17:40.11 | Leftmost | Sure they will. You just can't read emails in a black hole. |
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| 17:40.38 | l1x | i guess it is going to give 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation |
| 17:40.55 | l1x | http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/05/21/smtp-replies.html |
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| 17:47.34 | robbyoconnor | http://dilbert.com/dyn_file/str_strip/88363/gif/strip.print/ |
| 17:47.39 | robbyoconnor | I wanna try this :) |
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| 17:49.48 | robbyoconnor | you're evil :) |
| 17:49.51 | Kosma | it's called alcoholic beverages |
| 17:50.03 | Kosma | reboots like hell |
| 17:50.09 | Kosma | and hurts, too |
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| 19:21.55 | bezdomni | When are we supposed to turn in our proof of enrollment and tax information for GSoC? |
| 19:22.06 | bezdomni | And who do we send them to? |
| 19:23.07 | smtms | bezdomni, when asked to |
| 19:23.28 | bezdomni | smtms: Thanks. But who does the asking? Is it google, or our mentor organization? |
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| 19:24.07 | summatusmentis | Google does |
| 19:24.10 | smtms | bezdomni, Google; on the students mailing list |
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| 20:01.24 | Catfish_Man | much too late |
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