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| 00:45.23 | socinfo | "stats" is http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm |
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| 00:46.38 | yonij | its !numapps |
| 00:46.46 | yonij | !numapps |
| 00:46.46 | socinfo | "numapps" is In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and there were 5539 proposals submitted by students |
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| 02:41.53 | skbohra | Hello everyone |
| 02:44.41 | eocampos | skatteola, hello |
| 02:44.56 | eocampos | skbohra, hi |
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| 02:45.43 | skbohra | eocampos: hey |
| 02:46.36 | skatteola | highlighting me by mistake seem to be a popular sport around here.. ;-) |
| 02:47.02 | eocampos | skatteola, :P sorry |
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| 02:47.19 | qrng | Good morning. |
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| 02:48.17 | skbohra | skatteola: you can blame me for that :D |
| 02:48.50 | skatteola | :) |
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| 02:48.58 | skatteola | Not a problem of course, makes me feel popular! |
| 02:49.08 | skbohra | haha |
| 02:50.20 | ankitg | skbohra: what else can we blame you for? [there's only so much we can blame robbyoconnor and ajuonline for ...] |
| 02:51.15 | skbohra | ankitg: you should get some police protection from now on ;) |
| 02:51.56 | robbyoconnor | skatteola skatteola skatteola skatteola |
| 02:54.49 | skatteola | robbyoconnor: Thank you! |
| 02:54.56 | robbyoconnor | skatteola |
| 02:54.58 | robbyoconnor | :) |
| 02:55.05 | robbyoconnor | Oh did i forgret to say something |
| 02:55.08 | robbyoconnor | skatteola: sorry :P |
| 02:55.15 | robbyoconnor | wait, no I'm not skatteola |
| 02:55.16 | robbyoconnor | :D |
| 02:55.50 | skatteola | ;) |
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| 05:18.14 | sai | hi all,any facebook open-source developers here ? |
| 05:21.18 | robbyoconnor | sai: go to their channel or contacy THEM |
| 05:22.34 | kblin | !anyone |
| 05:22.35 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
| 05:23.26 | robbyoconnor | kblin: i even sent a msg to the discussion list about this |
| 05:23.40 | robbyoconnor | Done in vain as nobody will bother to read it |
| 05:25.14 | kblin | I sure don't :) |
| 05:25.24 | maveriick | robbyoconnor, don't worry history will remind this, nothing is in vein. |
| 05:26.01 | robbyoconnor | People who can't find their org contact info don't deserve this |
| 05:26.03 | cbeck | I agree, don't put anything odd in your veins </mr. T> |
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| 05:26.16 | robbyoconnor | Simple research skills |
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| 06:02.55 | mt | !timeline |
| 06:02.56 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
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| 06:11.34 | r0bby_ | the timeline doesn't have the initial $500 stipend |
| 06:11.48 | r0bby_ | this one: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 06:11.49 | r0bby_ | lol |
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| 06:34.00 | thebolt | Morning |
| 06:35.54 | kblin | morning :) |
| 06:36.36 | thebolt | up early aswell kblin :) How's it going? |
| 06:36.47 | kblin | good |
| 06:37.07 | kblin | found a store that'll put in a us keyboard into a thinkpad |
| 06:37.11 | thebolt | Hehe |
| 06:37.16 | thebolt | nice :) |
| 06:37.28 | kblin | so I'm currently trying to decide if I can afford a new laptop right now |
| 06:37.30 | Chetan | Orgs are supposed to finalize the initial list of students by 18th , right? |
| 06:37.43 | thebolt | kblin: :) |
| 06:37.47 | kblin | Chetan: I think so |
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| 06:38.07 | thebolt | i also need a new laptop.. as soon as I get my company setup (shouldn't be more than a few weeks more) I'll get one.. |
| 06:38.14 | kblin | thebolt: it'd sure be nice to have for the sambaxp conf early next month |
| 06:38.36 | kblin | the new laptop comes with more ram, more disk, two cores and VT-x support |
| 06:38.49 | kblin | all things I can use for samba development |
| 06:38.50 | thebolt | your current one, what spec does it have? |
| 06:39.11 | kblin | it's an R52 with 1 gig of ram |
| 06:39.14 | thebolt | yea, I need all of that as well (or well, I have VTx) |
| 06:39.39 | kblin | but one processor, 80gigs of hdd |
| 06:39.50 | thebolt | Ok, even older (and crappier) than mine.. |
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| 06:40.05 | kblin | still works just fine, though |
| 06:40.07 | thebolt | I have a 4 year old Asus |
| 06:40.20 | thebolt | otoh, I don't have any other PC |
| 06:40.26 | thebolt | it is my only computer |
| 06:40.32 | kblin | I bought mine with the first money I earned with gsoc |
| 06:40.39 | thebolt | :) |
| 06:41.19 | kblin | then again, if I get a new laptop, I'll probably keep the old one around as surfstation for the bedroom |
| 06:42.01 | kblin | after all, it's got a think light and all that, which makes it ideal for me to work with in the mornings while the girlfriend is still asleep |
| 06:42.26 | thebolt | this one begins to become a bit too weak when using big electronics or mechanics CAD.. and/or running a few VMs for building stuff |
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| 06:42.44 | thebolt | bedroom? more than one room, who needs that? :-) |
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| 06:43.00 | kblin | this one is pretty much over it's limits when running one VM |
| 06:43.16 | kblin | not surprising with a single core and no vtx |
| 06:43.25 | kblin | not to mention ram |
| 06:43.27 | thebolt | yea |
| 06:43.41 | thebolt | i have a first-gen core duo and 2GB ram |
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| 06:44.59 | kblin | hm, I wonder if there's any way I can substract the laptop costs from the money I earn doing freelancing stuff |
| 06:45.26 | kblin | or if it makes more sense to deduct it from my $dayjob's income tax |
| 06:45.51 | thebolt | that is one of the reasons to setup a company for me.. deduct the VAT and don't have to pay income tax first and then buy things I need to actually earn money |
| 06:46.45 | kblin | yeah, if I wasn't going for a phd, I'd probably have done something similar |
| 06:47.40 | kblin | but even though my current job is a half-time position, it's pretty clear that you're expected to work onit full-time |
| 06:47.45 | kblin | gotta love academia |
| 06:48.27 | thebolt | hehe |
| 06:48.31 | kblin | so no time left to do regular freelancing work, so the paperwork overhead wouldn't be worth it |
| 06:49.00 | kblin | and as long as I earn less the 8k EUR freelancing, that's tax free extra income, it seems |
| 06:49.58 | thebolt | Ah.. here no income is tax free.. |
| 06:50.38 | thebolt | or well, first 1.5k EUR you don't pay any income tax.. but your employer still has to pay "employer fee" (kind-of tax..) |
| 06:51.09 | kblin | thebolt: well, 8k/year isn't that much if you've got to pay you food and rent from that |
| 06:52.15 | thebolt | it is about what I've lived on for the last 5 years ;) |
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| 06:53.43 | kblin | rent alone takes more than half of that |
| 06:54.22 | thebolt | well, I live a bit cheaper than that |
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| 06:55.04 | kblin | most people do.. this city is pretty expensive |
| 06:55.07 | thebolt | right now I pay 370EUR/month for 10 months a year.. used to pay 270 a month for 10 months before I went to taiwan |
| 06:55.29 | thebolt | (and the dorm in taiwan cost 400 euro for a year :P) |
| 06:55.56 | kblin | yeah, but you had to use your computer to heat the room ;) |
| 06:56.23 | thebolt | true :P |
| 06:56.38 | thebolt | when i go back i hope to get an apartment at around 350 a month or so |
| 06:56.58 | thebolt | still pretty decent price for living in the central parts of a 6 million inhabitant city.. |
| 06:57.13 | thebolt | (or i end up living a bit further away and pay less, not decided yet ;) |
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| 06:57.45 | kblin | well, it'd be a decent price to live here, and that's a small 75k inhabitant citty |
| 06:57.51 | kblin | city |
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| 06:58.18 | thebolt | :) |
| 06:58.56 | thebolt | in stockholm you wouldn't find any apartments for rent at all.. you need to buy one (and a 1 room can be 100k to 300k depending on location and how good it is) |
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| 07:02.47 | thiago_home | 100k⬠in Oslo wouldn't buy you anything |
| 07:03.14 | thiago_home | a small place, not well located, would start at 150k⬠|
| 07:04.06 | thebolt | thiago_home: yea, 100k isn't very central in stockholm either these days.. |
| 07:04.11 | thebolt | but yes, you are right, oslo is even worse |
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| 07:09.26 | thiago_home | but you can't reach oslo these days... air space is still closed |
| 07:09.43 | thiago_home | I was almost caught away from home |
| 07:12.09 | kblin | I wonder if my dad'll have to take the train home |
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| 07:14.28 | thiago_home | where's he? |
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| 07:17.20 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 07:18.20 | thiago_home | almost went to the Linux Collab Summit in SF |
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| 07:21.21 | thebolt | thiago_home: well, i can think of worse places to be trapped than SF ;) |
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| 08:24.58 | kblin | hmm |
| 08:25.17 | kblin | I just had a discussion with my girlfriend on what counts as a computer |
| 08:25.47 | thiago_home | I hope she won |
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| 08:25.55 | thiago_home | you can't win arguments against girlfriends |
| 08:26.12 | kblin | well, not an argument |
| 08:27.46 | kblin | I just told her that I'm considering getting a new thinkpad, and had a look at her R500 |
| 08:28.13 | kblin | and she asked me how many computers I actually have right now |
| 08:29.09 | Nightrose | smells trouble ;-) |
| 08:29.39 | kblin | no, we just came to a different count |
| 08:29.48 | Nightrose | hehe |
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| 08:30.52 | kblin | turns out her definition of a computer is "you can hook up a screen to it" in addition to what I use |
| 08:31.16 | Nightrose | sounds reasonable :D |
| 08:31.31 | thebolt | i have a whole bunch of things i would consider computers that you cannot hook up to screens |
| 08:31.35 | kblin | so I guess that allows me to get a 19" rack and fill that with servers without increasing the computer count in the flat |
| 08:31.49 | Nightrose | hehe |
| 08:31.50 | thebolt | haha |
| 08:31.51 | ojwb | suspects that may not work out well |
| 08:31.56 | Nightrose | too |
| 08:31.59 | thebolt | kblin: you _can_ hook up a screen to those though |
| 08:32.15 | kblin | thebolt: not if they don't have VGA outs. some don't |
| 08:32.32 | thebolt | kblin: i've never seen any rack servers totally without VGA/DVI out |
| 08:32.39 | kblin | oh? |
| 08:32.39 | thebolt | in one form or another |
| 08:32.41 | kblin | damn |
| 08:32.58 | thebolt | (some blade-servers have built-in KVM switches so only one VGA/DVI per blade-rack) |
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| 08:34.04 | kblin | anyway, I'll restrict myself to small, silent systems until I get a basement where I can put the noisy 19" rack ;) |
| 08:34.09 | thebolt | :P |
| 08:34.24 | thebolt | you don't want a 19" rack in your bedroom? |
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| 08:34.53 | kblin | thebolt: not saying that I don't, but I'm sure the 19 |
| 08:34.54 | thebolt | full of 240V fans ;) |
| 08:35.17 | kblin | " rack will lose the "am I worth the space" contest against the wardrobe |
| 08:35.37 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 08:36.25 | kblin | besides, I can't justify the need for any big system like that |
| 08:36.26 | baer | i actually had a rack in my living room for a few weeks |
| 08:36.55 | kblin | nor the power bill that's likely to produce |
| 08:38.14 | thebolt | :) |
| 08:38.21 | thebolt | hm, time to bike downtown and get some stuff I need |
| 08:38.27 | kblin | hf |
| 08:38.27 | thebolt | talk to you gentlement/women later |
| 08:38.34 | thebolt | -t |
| 08:38.42 | kblin | s/women/ladies/ as well |
| 08:39.25 | thebolt | well, intended to make it symmetrical with gentlewomen ;) should probably be written in a different way :) oh well, cya! |
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| 08:40.34 | kblin | prefers gentlebeings for that ;) |
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| 13:42.24 | Gorthi | I think google should encourage students to do interns with them in the other seasons ,which they can manage with their academic schedule |
| 13:42.58 | Gorthi | i'm interested in contributing to opensource like that |
| 13:43.08 | Gorthi | but hatsoff google for gsoc |
| 13:46.08 | danderson | there are internships. Feel free to apply. |
| 13:46.14 | danderson | but it's completely unrelated to SoC |
| 13:47.27 | CyberTooth | danderson:please put some links for them |
| 13:47.38 | Gorthi | yeah i know thats y i's saying i like to contribute to opensource |
| 13:48.03 | kapila__ | danderson, sorry for disturbing to the communication with Gorthi, could you tell me are those opportunists open for students for Asia. i am from srilanka |
| 13:48.05 | danderson | http://tinyurl.com/y9454av |
| 13:48.26 | danderson | Google is hiring worldwide, internships and full time. |
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| 13:49.24 | Gorthi | yeah there are many from India |
| 13:49.30 | Gorthi | my own friends too |
| 13:49.42 | CyberTooth | Gorthi:are you from india? |
| 13:49.56 | Gorthi | yes |
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| 13:52.06 | skbohra | but gsoc has its own charm |
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| 13:54.14 | schumaml | and much more media attention |
| 13:54.57 | skbohra | schumaml: certainly yeah |
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| 13:55.58 | skbohra | i am still enjoying that in my college :D |
| 13:58.11 | schumaml | hm, why does a whois suddenly open query windows |
| 13:58.29 | nfl | danderson: nice ;) |
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| 14:02.57 | ev_ | wonders what's going to happen. Being patient is only thing I could do :| |
| 14:03.34 | Opsrc | ev_ you need any information ? |
| 14:04.05 | ev_ | How many slots BlueZ got? ;) |
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| 14:05.46 | mayanks43 | fears the approaching result day |
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| 14:06.08 | skbohra | its still more then a week |
| 14:06.28 | mayanks43 | wont we know tht on 21 |
| 14:06.48 | mayanks43 | isnt 21-26 the dispute resolving period |
| 14:06.55 | skbohra | dispute ? |
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| 14:07.07 | mayanks43 | if u get selected in two orgs |
| 14:07.11 | mayanks43 | tht dispute |
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| 14:07.13 | skbohra | heh |
| 14:07.18 | skbohra | is that ? |
| 14:07.22 | mayanks43 | ya |
| 14:07.37 | mayanks43 | so most probably we may know results on 21 |
| 14:07.47 | mayanks43 | wants confirmation from a mod |
| 14:07.53 | Opsrc | i'm not receiving any comments from my organisation nor they're asking to submit a patch |
| 14:08.04 | Opsrc | does anyone know whts likely the situation ? |
| 14:08.13 | skbohra | Opsrc: ask other applicants from same org |
| 14:08.29 | skbohra | if they arent too, its normal with that org |
| 14:08.42 | Opsrc | i dont know anyone,they did not put up any of their channel |
| 14:08.50 | josipl | Opsrc: which organisation? |
| 14:08.55 | Opsrc | facebook |
| 14:08.59 | mayanks43 | :) |
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| 14:09.13 | mayanks43 | u visit their channel |
| 14:09.14 | mayanks43 | ? |
| 14:09.23 | skbohra | do they have ? |
| 14:09.30 | mayanks43 | dunno |
| 14:09.39 | mayanks43 | and do they hav a mailing-list? |
| 14:09.58 | Opsrc | i just visited #facebook but its not the channel where the opensource issues are being discussed they to had no information abt tht |
| 14:10.17 | Opsrc | yeah they do i've sent many mails but had very few replies |
| 14:10.39 | Opsrc | from the past one week has got no response |
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| 14:12.42 | mayanks43 | they might be busy |
| 14:12.50 | mayanks43 | or overwhelmed by queries |
| 14:12.55 | mayanks43 | ;) |
| 14:13.20 | Opsrc | yeah I guess the same. |
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| 14:13.56 | Opsrc | so being patient but I just feel to continue my work momentum,now I've no one to guide me |
| 14:14.15 | Opsrc | and they've not yet alloted any mentor for the proposal |
| 14:14.21 | Opsrc | they said they'd |
| 14:14.39 | mayanks43 | w8 for 21 |
| 14:14.56 | skbohra | w8? |
| 14:15.04 | Opsrc | yeah I could but somewhere I feel i'm missing something |
| 14:15.13 | Ivanovic | please do not use short forms in here |
| 14:15.27 | Opsrc | because they never asked me to submit a patch or report a bug or anything |
| 14:15.28 | Ivanovic | there are many international, non native english speakers in here |
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| 14:15.44 | thebolt | hi all |
| 14:15.47 | Ivanovic | Opsrc: uhm, you could just visit their bug tracker and work on a patch anyway |
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| 14:17.16 | Opsrc | yeah but atleast I need to talk to someone representing their organisation to know wht's happening |
| 14:17.24 | mayanks43 | oops sry for the short form :P |
| 14:17.49 | skbohra | sry == sorry |
| 14:18.03 | mayanks43 | LOL |
| 14:18.06 | Mahfuz_CSE_05 | LOL |
| 14:18.07 | mayanks43 | sorry again |
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| 14:22.16 | Opsrc | google is encouraging opensource but itself has not released any open source of its hostings ?? |
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| 14:24.02 | adimania | Opsrc: Have a look at chromium project. |
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| 14:24.44 | smtms | WebKit was open-source before Google began using it |
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| 14:25.30 | Opsrc | but its not yet released here |
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| 14:25.46 | danderson | what? |
| 14:26.01 | danderson | http://code.google.com/hosting/search?q=label:Google |
| 14:26.14 | danderson | Google-proprietary code that Google has open sourced. |
| 14:26.23 | danderson | This is not counting contributions to other open source projects. |
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| 14:28.53 | adimania | Opsrc: before asking this did you tried Google search to look for google's contributions? |
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| 14:30.14 | Opsrc | yeah i never said google has not contributed anything google search is a gift to the internet users |
| 14:30.27 | Opsrc | google has put up the entire world in a text box |
| 14:30.48 | Opsrc | I respect its contributions but tht's not i's talking abt |
| 14:31.23 | danderson | then please clarify your original point, because it seems that we're not understanding each other here. |
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| 14:33.07 | Opsrc | I always wanted to know ideas behind google search,maybe its too much to ask that.I've worked a lot on that but couldn't build enough |
| 14:33.25 | Opsrc | so looking for something from google now. |
| 14:33.31 | danderson | if you want access to Google's proprietary technology, you'll need to come work here |
| 14:33.38 | adimania | Opsrc: Ever heard of Chromium Project or Android or Web Toolkit? They are open sourced project from google hosted at code.google.com |
| 14:33.52 | danderson | getting access to the search infrastructure, is, pragmatically, never going to happen otherwise. |
| 14:34.40 | Opsrc | yeah I know that . I have a friend working there I never asked him about it and he never told it to me.We both respect and love google |
| 14:35.57 | schumaml | wow, that could be interpreted as attempted espionage ;) |
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| 14:36.44 | Opsrc | no.He's been very loyal to his organisation. |
| 14:37.03 | Opsrc | he never revealed despite being a good friend of mine |
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| 14:38.34 | cao | Opsrc: everyone has a price and/or breaking point |
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| 14:38.55 | Opsrc | hmm but i'm not trying to break it through my friend |
| 14:39.14 | mlankhorst | it's a secret, but once you know it it's a very disappointing secret ;) |
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| 14:39.27 | Opsrc | Even I never asked him.I always worked my own algoritms and searched through google |
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| 14:39.36 | danderson | mlankhorst: clearly we aren't getting the same secrets |
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| 14:40.33 | schumaml | I'm pretty sure that google's black ops are already investigating? |
| 14:40.46 | mlankhorst | :D |
| 14:41.01 | Opsrc | hmm maybe i'm one of them but I'm technically doing it alone ! |
| 14:41.02 | thebolt | schumaml: not needed.. they just aim the space based deathrays.. |
| 14:41.09 | cao | google's what? ;) |
| 14:41.31 | schumaml | black ops |
| 14:41.38 | mlankhorst | NO CARRIER |
| 14:41.42 | schumaml | like the guys who blew up Black Mesa |
| 14:42.16 | mlankhorst | black mesa wasn't blown up |
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| 14:46.44 | schumaml | should I pay more attention to rumours about HL2 EP3 then? |
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| 14:47.21 | mlankhorst | on second thought, wouldn't be surprised if it was blown up in ep3 |
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| 14:54.54 | Opsrc | anyone has ever been on facebook channels ?? |
| 14:55.09 | neXyon | !next |
| 14:55.10 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
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| 15:06.15 | Waren | yo |
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| 15:19.21 | drt24 | Opsrc: find the original paper on PageRank |
| 15:19.23 | drt24 | :-) |
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| 15:25.06 | gvallarelli | Hi |
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| 15:49.26 | geoaxis | any one from Germany here, need a quick help testing a URL |
| 15:50.38 | Ophiuchi | yep |
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| 15:51.22 | geoaxis | Ophiuchi, what do you see if you go to http://maven.mifos.org/ |
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| 15:51.53 | Ophiuchi | geoaxis: 'It works!' |
| 15:52.09 | geoaxis | Ophiuchi, strange |
| 15:52.16 | Ophiuchi | maven.mifos.org has address 75.149.167.24 |
| 15:52.17 | geoaxis | i have my VPS in Berlin |
| 15:52.23 | geoaxis | and I cannot access this page through it |
| 15:53.48 | Ophiuchi | geoaxis: well, just because networks are geographically near does not mean they have anythign at all in common network-topologically-wise |
| 15:54.09 | geoaxis | yeah |
| 15:54.18 | geoaxis | but the error i get is that Country is blocked |
| 15:54.24 | geoaxis | in a blocked.php |
| 15:54.57 | geoaxis | my VPS is in NORDRHEIN-WESTFALENKOELN |
| 15:55.39 | schumaml | any sane website admin blocks Köln |
| 15:55.52 | schumaml | scnr ;) |
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| 15:56.20 | geoaxis | why |
| 15:56.27 | Ophiuchi | geoaxis: if you were talking mail not http, I'd have an explanation |
| 15:56.37 | geoaxis | i am talking http |
| 15:56.43 | geoaxis | but even mail why? |
| 15:57.29 | geoaxis | (sorry i am not very familiar with German internet stuff, I am based in Sweden and nothing is blocked here) |
| 15:57.54 | Ophiuchi | some mail admins are of the opinion that the DeNIC speed improvements to whois are a break of RFC (no matter the RFC is old and they only need to give an option to see the info they want) so they refuse all mail from *.de |
| 15:58.29 | Ophiuchi | their loss |
| 15:58.31 | geoaxis | yeah, but thats not the problem i have |
| 16:00.13 | geoaxis | actualy i get to www.blockacountry.com |
| 16:00.13 | baer | geoaxis: who is the hoster? |
| 16:00.25 | geoaxis | hosting is from HostEurope.de |
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| 16:01.46 | geoaxis | i get a 302 from the source server |
| 16:02.01 | geoaxis | so it has to do with the site admin of the site in question |
| 16:02.13 | geoaxis | but it is strange that why is it so targetted |
| 16:02.53 | baer | hmm |
| 16:03.50 | geoaxis | http://pastebin.ca/1865014 |
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| 16:06.07 | baer | the list for germany does not contain my ip |
| 16:06.29 | baer | maybe they just hate hosteurope ;) |
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| 16:17.00 | geoaxis | any who, i can get around with it , http://xantorohara.blogspot.com/2008/11/maven-repository-through-socks-proxy.html |
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| 16:54.38 | ev_ | !next |
| 16:54.38 | socinfo | "next" is Student applications are closed. Be ready to respond to comments on and about your proposal. Accepted student proposals will be announced at http://socghop.appspot.com on April 26: 19:00 UTC. |
| 16:54.53 | ev_ | !log |
| 16:54.53 | socinfo | Error: access denied (owner). |
| 16:55.05 | skbohra | !logs |
| 16:55.05 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
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| 16:56.48 | ev_ | skbohra : you from admin? Just asking. |
| 16:57.05 | skbohra | ev_: no, am not |
| 16:57.16 | ev_ | Found you very active on irc, apparently in all logs. |
| 16:57.24 | mayanks43 | LOL |
| 16:57.44 | skbohra | ev_: i am |
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| 16:57.50 | ev_ | skbohra : student/mentor? |
| 16:57.55 | skbohra | ev_: student |
| 16:58.12 | ev_ | Best of luck :) |
| 16:58.22 | skbohra | ev_: thanks |
| 16:59.07 | ev_ | Which organization you applied to? |
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| 16:59.54 | skbohra | ev_: freifunk.net |
| 17:01.46 | Opsrc | anyone good with video streaming ? |
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| 17:09.42 | Opsrc | good to see many users logging in now . anyone good at video streaming or any kindof idea please reply |
| 17:10.18 | skbohra | Opsrc: video streaming as in ? |
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| 17:23.19 | yonij | hai everyone |
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| 17:25.18 | nmudgal | hi yonij |
| 17:25.26 | anirvana | hi yonij |
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| 17:27.59 | anirvana | Bot is alive now, that's the only new thing :) |
| 17:28.32 | Chetan | any mentor here? |
| 17:28.41 | yonij | hmm...hope it wont get killed again ;) |
| 17:28.44 | jkwood | Yes? |
| 17:29.14 | Chetan | The orgs are supposed to finalize the initial selection of students by 18th, right? |
| 17:29.27 | yonij | !timeline |
| 17:29.28 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 17:29.34 | Chetan | :P |
| 17:29.42 | Chetan | "initial" |
| 17:30.30 | skbohra | finalize the initial |
| 17:30.36 | skbohra | interesting! |
| 17:33.48 | Chetan | after that the duplicate students will be resolved..as far as i know... |
| 17:34.00 | yonij | its on 21 |
| 17:34.06 | Chetan | again :P |
| 17:34.12 | Chetan | thats the irc meeting |
| 17:34.22 | Opsrc | so it'll be put up on every individual profile ? |
| 17:34.24 | Chetan | lot of groundwork will need to be done before that |
| 17:34.42 | Chetan | like running the algorithm, informing the orgs about duplicates |
| 17:35.15 | yonij | Did u ask ur org? |
| 17:35.29 | Chetan | what? |
| 17:35.32 | skbohra | Chetan: you admin? |
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| 17:35.50 | Chetan | nope.. |
| 17:35.53 | Chetan | hehe |
| 17:35.58 | Chetan | student |
| 17:35.59 | yonij | about the initial final selection |
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| 17:36.07 | anirvana | I think 19th is the last day for orgs to finalize the students |
| 17:36.08 | skbohra | Chetan: then you need not to worry :D |
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| 17:36.55 | Chetan | its curiosity not worry.. |
| 17:37.01 | mlankhorst | heu |
| 17:37.05 | Chetan | hi |
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| 18:24.32 | Opsrc | Is it that every organisation on gsoc asks its students to submit a patch or report a bug ?? |
| 18:25.15 | merwok | Depends of the org. |
| 18:25.28 | Dark_Shikari | "depends on the org" is the answer to most questions |
| 18:26.20 | Opsrc | so anyone has any idea,on what basis these organisations filter these students ? |
| 18:26.59 | skbohra | "depends on org" |
| 18:27.29 | Opsrc | any example ? |
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| 18:28.31 | jkwood | Since we're still in the process of selecting students, I'd feel uncomfortable giving specific criteria at this time. |
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| 18:30.13 | Opsrc | yeah ok I do understand it's important that students who do it on a caution are eliminated |
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| 18:32.47 | fat0ss | how many slots opencv will get ? |
| 18:32.53 | fat0ss | any Idea ? |
| 18:33.32 | jkwood | Try asking OpenCV? |
| 18:34.06 | fat0ss | on OpenCV IRC no onen reply.. |
| 18:34.14 | fat0ss | even on mailing list.. |
| 18:34.34 | kblin | !gsoc |
| 18:34.35 | socinfo | "gsoc" is gsoc refers to the Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoire-faire on Open-source Conundrums. |
| 18:35.07 | kblin | we don't know details on org participating |
| 18:35.20 | fat0ss | Okay thanx |
| 18:35.25 | Opsrc | does it happen with some organisations that they dont respond on IRC or mailing lists ?? |
| 18:35.55 | jkwood | Apparently so. |
| 18:35.59 | merwok | Hahaha |
| 18:36.29 | merwok | Thereâs one typo in the message: Itâs âsavoir-faireâ |
| 18:36.36 | Opsrc | so they select on some other criteria ? |
| 18:37.14 | skbohra | lets bet on number of slots each org gets? anyone, lets put in some money :D |
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| 18:40.33 | kblin | merwok: fix it? |
| 18:40.48 | kblin | !forget gsoc |
| 18:40.48 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 18:41.03 | merwok | kblin, I donât remember the baroque syntax for every IRC bot I meet :) |
| 18:41.25 | kblin | !learn gsoc as GSoC refers to the Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums. |
| 18:41.25 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 18:41.53 | kblin | I hate it when people just whine about issues they find |
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| 18:42.07 | merwok | âWhineâ is a bit strong. |
| 18:42.23 | kblin | ok, in this particular case I agree |
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| 18:42.48 | kblin | I hang out in the whinehq channel too much |
| 18:42.56 | kblin | er, #winehq |
| 18:43.09 | diofeher | !gsoc |
| 18:43.09 | socinfo | "gsoc" is GSoC refers to the Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums. |
| 18:43.14 | diofeher | nice :) |
| 18:43.16 | Sanshaptak | is there anyone from Madhubani ? |
| 18:43.21 | kblin | !anyone |
| 18:43.21 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
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| 18:46.11 | Sanshaptak | !anuone |
| 18:46.12 | socinfo | Error: "anuone" is not a valid command. |
| 18:46.16 | Sanshaptak | !anyone |
| 18:46.17 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
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| 18:46.36 | Sanshaptak | !help |
| 18:46.37 | socinfo | "help" is !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki. !botabuse tells you about private query syntax |
| 18:46.48 | Sanshaptak | !botabuse |
| 18:46.48 | socinfo | "botabuse" is (#1) Leave me alone! (also, you can play with me as much as you like in a private /query so as not to spam the channel), or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> to get the best use., or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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| 18:50.04 | sid_ | bye |
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| 18:50.31 | sid_ | terribly sorry guys |
| 18:50.42 | sid_ | new to irc |
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| 19:11.04 | Samwho | *tentatively pokes head in* Hello? :) |
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| 19:12.07 | YuviPanda_ | shoots Samwho in the head |
| 19:12.14 | Samwho | dies. |
| 19:12.23 | merwok | searches the body for loot |
| 19:12.37 | merwok | finds cookies o/ |
| 19:12.42 | Samwho | dropped 3 coins and boots of chicken. |
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| 19:13.23 | Samwho | resists urge to crack a yo mama joke. |
| 19:14.26 | Samwho | So I assume that like, everyone else is lurking? |
| 19:14.47 | YuviPanda_ | Samwho: yeah, just waitin for someone to start talkin ;) |
| 19:15.18 | Samwho | Oh okay. Fair enough. |
| 19:15.25 | Samwho | sits quietly and does the same. |
| 19:15.28 | YuviPanda_ | Samwho: so sam, who? |
| 19:15.31 | kblin | some of us are actually working :) |
| 19:16.29 | Samwho | Working on anything awesome?:) |
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| 19:22.00 | aghisla | Samwho: I'm studying http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php |
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| 19:23.21 | Samwho | Poor DARPA... Only $3.1 billion. |
| 19:23.25 | YuviPanda_ | is installing libsdl-dev and trying to write a game of life implementation with vala :) |
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| 19:24.50 | Samwho | YuviPanda_: That's cool :) I want to write the AI behind a chess program |
| 19:24.50 | Samwho | soon... |
| 19:25.02 | YuviPanda_ | Samwho: :) |
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| 19:27.56 | Samwho | I'm actually pretty new to this IRC lark... I've always known of it (good |
| 19:27.56 | Samwho | old bash.org) but never tried it out |
| 19:27.59 | Samwho | Is it always this quiet? :p |
| 19:28.18 | makmanalp | Samwho: some channels are just not as active |
| 19:28.30 | makmanalp | Samwho: it'll get much more chatty in a month or two in here generally |
| 19:28.46 | Samwho | Mm, when GSOC is actually underway huh? :) |
| 19:28.48 | makmanalp | Samwho: but most people just "lurk" here. |
| 19:28.52 | makmanalp | Samwho: indeed! |
| 19:28.52 | Samwho | I want to apply next year... |
| 19:29.12 | merwok | It really is something to experience. |
| 19:29.15 | makmanalp | Samwho: you should, I did it last year and it was loads of fun |
| 19:29.29 | Samwho | I'm just a little uncertain about my ability... |
| 19:29.44 | int3__ | i'm just curious... those of you who have applied to orgs -- did you guys use that org's software before applying, and/or do you forsee their software being very useful to you in the future? |
| 19:29.45 | Samwho | I'm 19, studying Computer System Security (but want to change to Computer |
| 19:29.45 | Samwho | Science) |
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| 19:31.28 | merwok | int3__, yep. Iâve used Python for a couple years, applied to Python Software Foundation, and will still use it and contribute to it. |
| 19:31.38 | makmanalp | int3__: I did, but I know some people who didn't. damiliarity is always a great bonus though, it reduces the work you need to do |
| 19:32.23 | merwok | That said, youâre not supposed to be an expert before you start; the point of GSoC is to bring you into the community. |
| 19:32.27 | YuviPanda_ | int3__: I use django everyday, and my 8 year old cousin plays a lot with Cheese (to which I applied) |
| 19:33.09 | merwok | Samwho, there are a lot of proposals with quite different skill levels and interest areas. |
| 19:33.25 | Samwho | merwok: Yeah, that makes sense. I've never contributed to Open Source |
| 19:33.26 | Samwho | before though and it all looks a little daunting... I SVN'd some source |
| 19:33.26 | Samwho | codes and none of them make a lot of sense when I read over them. |
| 19:33.27 | merwok | YuviPanda_, what will you do if youâre chosen for Django? |
| 19:33.35 | YuviPanda_ | merwok: I didn't apply :) |
| 19:33.40 | YuviPanda_ | merwok: I applied only for cheese |
| 19:33.41 | merwok | Ok. |
| 19:34.07 | YuviPanda_ | Samwho: pick a bug and understand enough of the source to fix it |
| 19:34.15 | YuviPanda_ | Samwho: works much better than reading through all bits of code, IMO |
| 19:34.19 | merwok | Samwho, well, Google Summer of Code aims at bringing people into communities, but itâs still a summer of coding. |
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| 19:35.37 | Samwho | YuviPanda_: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind :) |
| 19:36.03 | Samwho | merwok: Yeah, I'm gonna try and get my ability up to scratch over this year |
| 19:36.03 | Samwho | so I can feel a bit more confident about it. |
| 19:37.09 | merwok | Samwho, I really donât want to start a debate about programming languages, but I suggest you try Python as first programming language. See diveintopython3.org |
| 19:37.52 | Samwho | merwok: I can code :) I'm fairly profficient in Java (it's the language of |
| 19:37.53 | Samwho | my degree) and PHP |
| 19:38.02 | YuviPanda_ | merwok: Python3? :| |
| 19:38.21 | Samwho | I did a little Python about a year back, seemed pretty cool |
| 19:38.45 | YuviPanda_ | shuts up to not start a Python 2.x vs 3.0 flame in the channel |
| 19:38.48 | int3__ | merwok: yeah, he should be learning python 2, 3 isn't much good yet |
| 19:39.00 | merwok | YuviPanda_, Python 3 is a better language than Python 2, and DIP3 better than DIP (original Dive Into Python lags at version 2.4) |
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| 19:39.30 | YuviPanda_ | stays shut |
| 19:39.36 | Samwho | I've written a chess program in Java as a project... I could link it if you |
| 19:39.36 | Samwho | wanted? |
| 19:39.44 | merwok | is away for dinner |
| 19:42.56 | int3__ | Samwho: you might want to check out github. I just started on it a while ago, but it seems like a nice way to see which projects are active and popular |
| 19:43.14 | YuviPanda | github++ |
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| 19:45.38 | thiago_home | github is good, but in the interest of free software, I recommend against it |
| 19:45.42 | thiago_home | their source isn't open |
| 19:46.19 | kblin | gitorious is an alternative |
| 19:46.46 | kblin | for my latest project I've decided for self-hosting with my own git repo and redmine, though |
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| 19:48.39 | makmanalp | there's also bitbucket i think |
| 19:49.24 | int3__ | kblin: what are the advantages of hosting your own repo? isn't the extra coverage you get from hosting it on a community site useful? |
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| 19:55.08 | Yasumoto | int3__: if there's a specific version of the server you'd like to run, you have that flexibility |
| 19:56.28 | Yasumoto | also, you maintain control of it, so you don't need to worry about the service going down or something |
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| 20:02.51 | kblin | int3__: this is for $dayjob, having direct control over the repo is a nice thing to have |
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| 20:03.39 | kblin | int3__: it's very specialized software anyway, it's not like there's more than a couple of hundred people who'd want software like this anyway |
| 20:04.12 | int3__ | ah okay |
| 20:05.02 | ajy | hi |
| 20:05.16 | ajy | iam new to irc |
| 20:05.41 | Yasumoto | greetings, ajy |
| 20:05.54 | kblin | int3__: also it's scientific software, so we get our exposure via publications :) |
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| 20:06.56 | ajy | i' gonna participate in gsoc 2011 |
| 20:07.21 | ajy | wanna know more abt it |
| 20:07.47 | thiago_home | about IRC? |
| 20:07.50 | ajy | hi anybody there |
| 20:08.08 | ajy | not abut IRC |
| 20:08.16 | ajy | but abt Gsoc |
| 20:08.25 | thiago_home | socghop.appspot.com |
| 20:08.55 | ajy | i'm gonna participate in gsoc 2011 |
| 20:09.06 | anirvana | ajy , there is 1 year left for gsoc2011 :P |
| 20:09.08 | ajy | also registred to gsoc 10 |
| 20:09.21 | kblin | !advice |
| 20:09.21 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 20:09.28 | kblin | ajy: ^^^ |
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| 20:13.55 | anirvana | !orgs |
| 20:13.55 | socinfo | "orgs" is The list of accepted mentoring organizations is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 |
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| 20:25.42 | ajy | Can u tell me nythin abt foss.in |
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| 20:26.11 | thiago_home | it's in India |
| 20:26.16 | thiago_home | usually in December |
| 20:26.55 | ajy | as a student whats ma role in it |
| 20:28.16 | ajy | wanna know more abt foss.in |
| 20:29.06 | ajy | anybody there |
| 20:29.21 | ajy | wanna know more abt FOSS.IN |
| 20:30.45 | Kosma | facepalms |
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| 20:40.53 | athulya | i didnot sent applicationn 2ny org.... i lost the chance for gsoc 2010 |
| 20:41.00 | athulya | is it like that |
| 20:41.27 | merwok | !deadline |
| 20:41.27 | socinfo | "deadline" is see !timeline |
| 20:41.36 | merwok | !timeline |
| 20:41.36 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline, or (#2) for the visually oriented: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRuBILD0TjI/S6tGHR4mM3I/AAAAAAAACbw/tftJozZHs-0/s1600/gsoc10timeline.JPG |
| 20:41.43 | Kosma | !extension |
| 20:41.43 | socinfo | "extension" is The deadline WAS NOT extended and WILL NOT be. Not even for you. |
| 20:41.48 | Kosma | I like that one |
| 20:41.50 | Kosma | :D |
| 20:42.47 | bobbens | didn't they extend it two years in a row though? :) |
| 20:43.02 | thiago_home | I think so |
| 20:43.09 | thiago_home | 2007 and 2006 |
| 20:43.21 | bobbens | 2008 and 2009 no? |
| 20:43.22 | merwok | How come? |
| 20:43.26 | thiago_home | maybe 2008 and 2007 |
| 20:43.28 | merwok | Noone made it on time? |
| 20:43.28 | thiago_home | definitely not 2009 |
| 20:43.31 | bobbens | I'm sure of 2008, don't recal 2009 |
| 20:43.51 | thiago_home | I think the original timeline of 2008 allowed for just one week of submission |
| 20:43.58 | thiago_home | so they extended it |
| 20:44.07 | bobbens | I think there was like 3 days left |
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| 20:44.10 | bobbens | and very few submissions |
| 20:44.13 | bobbens | and they extended |
| 20:44.23 | bobbens | then in the last "official first schedule" day it got flooded |
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