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| 07:43.57 | kblin | morning thebolt |
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| 07:45.39 | thebolt | hi kblin , what's up? |
| 07:46.25 | ojwb | it's the new pixar movie |
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| 07:47.21 | kblin | :) |
| 07:48.30 | kblin | thebolt: procastrinating. I should be learning for my neural networks exam tomorrow, but am instead desinging a pretty nifty layout for my home network |
| 07:49.00 | thebolt | :-) |
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| 07:50.08 | kblin | it depends on my beagle being able to run two USB NICs reliably |
| 07:50.22 | kblin | I didn't test that yet |
| 07:51.12 | thebolt | heh |
| 07:51.28 | thebolt | i am just too tired these days of stuff not working to thinker too much with the computers i use every day ,) |
| 07:52.12 | kblin | but it makes good use of my new gigabit switch, and keeps my web server and the wireless clients in a DMZ |
| 07:52.36 | kblin | I can also allow guests to plug in to the DMZ if they just need internet |
| 07:52.58 | thebolt | if i trust a guest into my room physically i trust them enough to let them on my wlan ;=) |
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| 07:53.10 | kblin | which incidently allows me to turn off DHCP in the "trusted" net |
| 07:53.16 | thebolt | or rather other way around,.. someone i wouldn't let on my wlan i probably wouldn't let in my door ;) |
| 07:53.29 | kblin | well, yeah, there's that :) |
| 07:53.39 | kblin | I don't _need_ that kind of setup |
| 07:53.43 | thebolt | :) |
| 07:53.51 | kblin | but it was nice to design on paper |
| 07:53.58 | thebolt | its one of those "just because you can doesn't mean you should" ;) |
| 07:54.05 | kblin | I know |
| 07:54.13 | kblin | it's not high on the priorities list |
| 07:54.28 | kblin | there's still some things I need to look into, anyway |
| 07:56.02 | kblin | e.g. I'd like to have my mac mini to take part in the trusted network, but it's not connected via the cable |
| 07:56.34 | kblin | and I've already decided that I'd set up a VPN solution for my laptop as well |
| 07:57.06 | kblin | but I wonder if e.g. openvpn integrates well into osx |
| 07:57.27 | thebolt | no idea |
| 07:57.38 | kblin | I'll have to read up on that |
| 07:57.46 | thebolt | but openvpn is way nicer to setup and install than say anything ipsec based, is my experience |
| 07:58.03 | kblin | yeah |
| 07:58.29 | thebolt | setup and deploy rather |
| 07:59.14 | kblin | hm, I'd have to set up vpn for my girlfriend as well, at least if we want to keep playing LAN games.. |
| 07:59.24 | thebolt | heh |
| 07:59.36 | kblin | meh |
| 08:00.29 | kblin | too complicated for practical use, then |
| 08:02.22 | thebolt | haha |
| 08:02.37 | kblin | but still a nifty setup |
| 08:03.24 | kblin | it'd all be easier if my DSL modem and my wireless AP were on different networks |
| 08:04.05 | kblin | then I could still put my web server into the DMZ and keep the wireless as part of the trusted net |
| 08:04.49 | kblin | but I'm not replacing that box as long as it still works |
| 08:05.02 | thebolt | i have ethernet to my isp.. then isp-ethernet-my router/ap-inside.. anything inside the router/ap is considered trusted |
| 08:05.09 | thebolt | now i don't run any servers at my place |
| 08:05.36 | kblin | that box being the AP/router |
| 08:05.47 | thebolt | at my parents place i do have a server, same setup (same router/ap even).. use port forwarding of port 22, 80 and 1194 |
| 08:05.50 | thebolt | thats it |
| 08:07.09 | kblin | well, I have one server that's behind the router handling incoming ssh and ipv6 |
| 08:07.30 | kblin | I'd like to run http on a different box for performance reasons mostly |
| 08:07.51 | kblin | of course I can just forward the traffic from the router to that box |
| 08:09.33 | kblin | but if the box working as ssh gw and ipv6 tunnel endpoint separated the trusted net from the dmz, I could just do most of the firewalling on that box and be done |
| 08:10.01 | kblin | instead of having to do some on the router (for ipv4) and some on the ipv6 endpoint |
| 08:10.21 | kblin | also, the router needs to reboot to pick up changed settings. most annoying |
| 08:11.37 | thebolt | ah, i don't use ipv6 so don't have that trouble |
| 08:11.44 | thebolt | and, i don't change my router settings that often :P |
| 08:13.06 | kblin | me neither, to be honest |
| 08:13.23 | kblin | as I said, I don't _need_ that setup |
| 08:13.54 | thebolt | :) |
| 08:13.55 | kblin | it'd be more interesting if I had a fixed IP, allowing me to take over the now-defunct wombat.worldforge.org site |
| 08:14.31 | thebolt | not having an officially fixed ip never been a problem for me |
| 08:14.40 | thebolt | my server is currently on my parents adsl |
| 08:14.57 | kblin | my ISP really had stability problems the last week |
| 08:15.00 | thebolt | it is officially dynamic ip by dhcp.. but it hasn't changed in the last hm.. four years or so |
| 08:15.03 | thebolt | five years |
| 08:15.19 | thebolt | (and then i run dyndns.org dns service anyhow.. so router updates it and the ttl for the main A record is pretty low ,) |
| 08:15.20 | kblin | oh? mine changes at least once a day these days |
| 08:15.57 | thebolt | i think last time it changed was when they upgraded from .5 Mbit to 8/1 Mbit.. but that is about the only time it changed |
| 08:17.09 | thebolt | but yea, i think german isps in general are known for being very dynamic with their ip assignments |
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| 08:33.41 | kblin | meh, google calendar is down |
| 08:34.06 | kblin | another reason to set up my own caldav server, I guess |
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| 09:17.38 | Ivanovic | moin |
| 09:18.27 | Ivanovic | kblin: you tried to ping me last night |
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| 10:33.41 | kblin | Ivanovic: yeah |
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| 10:34.10 | kblin | Ivanovic: are the wesnoth folks coming to the mentor summit around on gsoc IRC? |
| 10:34.40 | Ivanovic | i don't think so |
| 10:34.54 | kblin | ah, pity :) |
| 10:34.57 | Ivanovic | that is sapient normally is not around too much (and he normally just joins #wesnoth-dev and thats it) |
| 10:35.07 | kblin | we'll have to fix that on the summit then |
| 10:35.26 | Ivanovic | and yogihh can't be online all the time, since he has something called "family" and as loving father he spends time with them... |
| 10:35.28 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 10:35.42 | kblin | ... how weird is that |
| 10:35.44 | kblin | ;) |
| 10:35.53 | Ivanovic | extremely weird |
| 10:38.12 | kblin | anyway, I need to go spend my break from learning with something useful.. gaming :) |
| 10:41.00 | Ivanovic | :) |
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| 10:49.49 | thebolt | Ivanovic: heh, our project leader also has that.. which means that he is online on irc 9 to 5, monday to friday ;) |
| 10:50.43 | Ivanovic | ah, the problem for him with 9 to 5 on mo till fr is that he has to work then and they block irc |
| 10:51.11 | thebolt | ah ok :) in our case he is allowed to work on the project during work hours, as long as he does everything he is supposed to do at work also (they don't use CS or anything related at the place he works.. ) |
| 10:51.53 | Ivanovic | yogihh is around several hours a day, just not "all the time" so it works somehow |
| 10:52.12 | Ivanovic | and sapient tends to react on pings in #wesnoth-dev even though he is not connected |
| 10:52.20 | thebolt | heh |
| 10:52.29 | Ivanovic | (thanks to the public logs we keep he can see if someone tries to reach him) |
| 10:52.35 | thebolt | :) |
| 10:53.06 | thebolt | my irc persona is always online, but i go offline myself from time to time |
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| 10:55.04 | Ivanovic | jupp |
| 10:55.13 | Ivanovic | i got miau running on an nslu2 |
| 10:55.45 | thebolt | i have a screen+irssi on a colo-located server.. (happens to give me the right hostname as well ;) |
| 10:56.06 | thebolt | +facility |
| 10:57.15 | thebolt | anyhow, now my physical representation needs to get in a car and transport himself 40 km, so there will be a disconnection between the physical and virtual self.. |
| 10:57.19 | thebolt | cya :) |
| 10:57.35 | Ivanovic | cu thebolt |
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| 15:10.52 | kblin | sighs |
| 15:11.05 | kblin | I hope I can keep all of this in my brain until tomorrow evening |
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| 15:16.08 | thebolt | exam tomorrow? |
| 15:16.57 | kblin | yeah |
| 15:17.47 | thebolt | good luck |
| 15:17.57 | kblin | thanks |
| 15:18.00 | thebolt | only have one exam this period, its october 22nd |
| 15:18.16 | thebolt | 14-18.. at 1940 i take the train to stockholm (And 23rd at 8 i fly towards SFO ;) |
| 15:18.42 | kblin | that's the first exam where I'll actually need luck |
| 15:18.55 | thebolt | hehe |
| 15:19.12 | kblin | exam outcome seems to depend on the mood of the examiner, which is an unknown quantity |
| 15:20.14 | thebolt | heh |
| 15:24.04 | kblin | if he asks his "i'm in a good mood" questions, I should be dandy |
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| 15:25.01 | Lennie|Gone | I have 4 exams after the summit :P |
| 15:25.25 | kblin | I've got a mircrobiology exam after the summit |
| 15:26.13 | kblin | and then there's that play |
| 15:26.50 | thebolt | i have one exam before the summit |
| 15:26.53 | thebolt | and one in december |
| 15:26.58 | thebolt | that should be my last exam for this degree.. |
| 15:26.58 | Lennie|Gone | thebolt, lucky yoU :) |
| 15:27.05 | kblin | sighs |
| 15:27.12 | kblin | yeah, one more in december as well |
| 15:27.24 | kblin | and then I'll have my degree :) |
| 15:27.27 | Lennie|Gone | another 4 in January :( |
| 15:27.41 | Lennie|Gone | kblin, about time since you've already done your thesis :D |
| 15:27.46 | kblin | yeah |
| 15:27.57 | thebolt | Lennie|Gone: well, december will be my 18th set of exams ;) |
| 15:27.59 | kblin | and then, with any luck, off to do a phd :) |
| 15:28.12 | Lennie|Gone | nice |
| 15:28.13 | thebolt | (two sets of exams per semester.. 9 semesters ;) |
| 15:28.24 | Lennie|Gone | hmm |
| 15:28.36 | thebolt | kblin: i have a thesis project to do first, but then i have the same goal, so yea.. only last "for this time" |
| 15:28.40 | kblin | thebolt: I had less exams, got 6 in total, meaning each of them is more important for the final result |
| 15:28.41 | Lennie|Gone | It will be my 17th then |
| 15:29.17 | kblin | I'm still unsure which system is better in the end |
| 15:29.27 | Lennie|Gone | I'm happy to discuss that later :D |
| 15:29.29 | Lennie|Gone | I gotta run now |
| 15:29.30 | thebolt | kblin: in how many years? |
| 15:29.32 | thebolt | cya Lennie|Gone |
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| 15:30.13 | kblin | thebolt: for me? within 6 months |
| 15:31.01 | thebolt | kblin: i ment, you said 6 exams in total.. but to judge if they are bigger/more important i guess one has to know during how long time ;) |
| 15:31.24 | kblin | if you count the undergrad stuff, let's see.. 3 cs, 1 maths, 1 biology (split into three parts, go figure) and 1 chemistry |
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| 15:31.39 | thebolt | ah, ok, we had loads of maths exams ;) |
| 15:32.02 | kblin | one exam testing all the maths we had in three semesters |
| 15:32.04 | thebolt | in general one course -> one exam.. so one exam per 4-12 ECTS points.. 300 points / (4-12) ;) |
| 15:32.08 | kblin | oh, and the statistics one |
| 15:32.24 | kblin | so 6 exams undergrad, 6 exams grad |
| 15:32.44 | kblin | over 4 / 6 semesters if you go by the book |
| 15:32.57 | thebolt | that would never be possible for us.. an exam covering one maths course (given during half a semester or maybe full semester) already takes 5 hours, and still only covers part of the course |
| 15:33.37 | kblin | yeah, well, the exam only covered part of the last course, which I didn't attend |
| 15:33.44 | thebolt | heh |
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| 15:33.51 | kblin | because we only need to attend two out of three of the courses |
| 15:34.14 | kblin | and the lecturer of the third course was really lousy |
| 15:34.25 | kblin | oh well, got it in the second try :) |
| 15:34.30 | thebolt | :) |
| 15:34.57 | thebolt | i'm happy we had more than one exam for all maths i've taken;) |
| 15:35.04 | kblin | yeah |
| 15:35.11 | kblin | I liked the three CS exams |
| 15:35.15 | kblin | that was really doable |
| 15:35.59 | thebolt | :) |
| 15:36.21 | kblin | biology was pretty tough, because we had one exam, given by three people, with one part microbiology, one part genetics and one part physiology, but after 1/3rd of the time you had to hand off the current part and go get the next one |
| 15:36.22 | thebolt | (i have 95 ECTS points math.. so a bit over three semesters full time) |
| 15:37.00 | kblin | so you couldn't quickly do the stuff you knew about and then spend the rest of the time on the harder parts |
| 15:37.06 | thebolt | ah, that sucks |
| 15:37.33 | kblin | I still wonder who came up with that... it's completely nuts |
| 15:38.01 | kblin | I think they changed that for the b.sc courses |
| 15:38.08 | kblin | about the only positive thing about the new system, from what I heard :) |
| 15:38.30 | thebolt | hehe |
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