| 00:14.34 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed, especially for sharing with randomers |
| 00:16.10 | ojwb | i guess this is a consequence of only using one hotel this year |
| 00:17.05 | MatthewWilkes | indeed, any idea why that was? I was in the other one last year, I forget the name, and it was very nice |
| 00:17.18 | dberkholz | yeah, the blue one. |
| 00:17.33 | dberkholz | i liked it, but it was rather annoying getting to the main one |
| 00:18.35 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, but it worked out in the end, enough people had rented cars |
| 00:18.48 | MatthewWilkes | Although, the taxi to the tied house was pretty expensive! |
| 00:19.54 | dberkholz | i think i rode over there with someone. |
| 00:20.32 | dberkholz | i'm kinda sad to miss some of the people i met last year because their orgs didn't make it |
| 00:20.46 | dberkholz | but i guess it's just an opportunity to make some new friends |
| 00:21.35 | ojwb | the other one was "the domain" IIRC |
| 00:21.59 | ojwb | wonders if he has a room booked |
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| 00:26.39 | ojwb | the domain was $10 more per room per night, so I guess it's partly a cost cutting thing |
| 00:26.53 | ojwb | also easier to have everyone together, and there are fewer orgs this year |
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| 00:27.16 | ojwb | but I don't have any inside info, just guessing really |
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| 05:47.44 | skreech | Hello |
| 05:47.51 | skreech | Anyone awake? :) |
| 05:50.02 | summatusmentis | yes, but I may not be useful |
| 05:57.47 | skreech | :-) |
| 05:58.09 | skreech | i was just trying to find out if there was a per organization breakdown of the results of GSoC ? |
| 05:59.42 | Landon | summatusmentis: isn't that a given? |
| 06:00.12 | thebolt | Morning :) |
| 06:00.26 | Landon | how annoying, I'm doing my programming project, which is multiplying two matrices |
| 06:00.47 | Landon | they;re making me use a struct in this project, even though I have perfectly good code for storing a matrix in a previous project |
| 06:01.17 | Landon | if you didn't want me to be clever, you should have taught me about structs earlier! |
| 06:01.38 | summatusmentis | :) |
| 06:01.53 | summatusmentis | my class that we did C in just did a very cursory introduction to C :( |
| 06:02.17 | Landon | sounds like the other engineering C class |
| 06:02.34 | Landon | computer engineers and comp sci get the hard and fast C/C++ lab |
| 06:02.41 | Landon | all other engineers get a slow c lab |
| 06:02.55 | Landon | (I saw their homework for last week... several weeks in and they're doing order of operations) |
| 06:03.31 | Landon | and they do it in a word document nonetheless :p |
| 06:03.42 | Landon | makes me wonder if they'll ever get to compiling anything |
| 06:04.08 | thebolt | i've done on-paper exams for programming classes (Scheme among others.. ) |
| 06:04.23 | Landon | I've had to do paper exams for all of my programming classes so far |
| 06:04.27 | Landon | such a pain |
| 06:04.38 | Landon | if I can't compile and test my code then it's worthless :P |
| 06:04.56 | Landon | especially if they expect me to know language specific stuff on the exam |
| 06:05.43 | Landon | (got points taken off for using the wrong case of True/true in a bool in a _data structures_ class) |
| 06:05.48 | summatusmentis | they... do C in MS Word? |
| 06:06.00 | Landon | summatusmentis: order of operations homework was in word |
| 06:06.06 | Landon | they have to do each single operation on a new line :P |
| 06:06.09 | Landon | it's entertaining |
| 06:06.41 | summatusmentis | ... |
| 06:06.46 | thebolt | Landon: thats juststupid (both the exam thing and word thing) |
| 06:07.25 | Landon | yeah, I didn't have very many favorable comments for that teacher on the end of semester evals |
| 06:07.26 | araujo | thinks there should exist a commandment about offering tools for porting legacy code every time an API changes |
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| 06:11.36 | thebolt | araujo: "Thou shalt provide a compatibility layer when changing API"? ;) |
| 06:12.22 | Landon | the corresponding circle of hell has them writing compatability layers for windows API |
| 06:12.22 | araujo | amen |
| 06:12.50 | araujo | thebolt, I would add " or you go to HELL" .. at the end |
| 06:17.31 | thebolt | araujo: isn't that kind of implicit if you break the commandments? ;) |
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| 06:18.37 | araujo | thebolt, it won't hurt to EXPLICITLY REMIND in this case |
| 06:19.03 | Landon | give it a little backbone |
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| 20:17.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi. Is it possible this year to receive letters from Google to certify the participation to GSoC (as a student)? |
| 20:18.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | Perhaps deliver them along with the t-shirt? |
| 20:18.32 | Ivanovic | Eduard_Munteanu: every successfull student gets a certicificate |
| 20:18.39 | Ivanovic | IIRC they are sent with the shirts |
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| 20:19.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, yeah, I know that since last year. But perhaps I should ask something else... |
| 20:19.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is the certificate enough for universities to attest for over-the-summer practical work? |
| 20:19.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | s/attest for/prove/ |
| 20:20.04 | mordante | that would depend on your university |
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| 20:20.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | mordante, yeah, I was asking for a general opinion. |
| 20:20.49 | mordante | but if it isn't you probably can contact LH whether she can help you |
| 20:21.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | mordante, I see, thanks. |
| 20:21.04 | Ivanovic | Eduard_Munteanu: i'd recommend you going with the certificate to your university and just *ask* |
| 20:21.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | Nice stuff this ibot. |
| 20:21.16 | Ivanovic | every university is probably a little diffterent regarding thsi stuff |
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| 20:21.35 | kendrick | fun times! |
| 20:21.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, hm, I didn't get my tee & certificate yet, I'm kinda tight on time to deliver proof. |
| 20:21.57 | mordante | kendrick, I don't see as flaming fun |
| 20:22.26 | Ivanovic | Eduard_Munteanu: i think there is no way to speed up normal post and consider that i just got my mentor shirt (to germany) last week |
| 20:22.26 | Ivanovic | and those were sent *a lot* before the student stuff |
| 20:22.45 | Ivanovic | though you could mail leslie off list and ask for some pdf version or the like that you can use as temp "proof" |
| 20:22.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | s/\(hm\)/\1, \1/ |
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| 20:22.52 | kendrick | mordante: eh? |
| 20:23.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | ibot seems to not know backreferences :) |
| 20:23.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, hm, good idea, thanks. |
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| 20:23.59 | mordante | kendrick, I thought you were referring to the ml |
| 20:24.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, what do you mean? I should've received my t-shirt or certificate? |
| 20:24.32 | Ivanovic | no, it would be suprising if you already received it |
| 20:24.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, oh, I see. |
| 20:24.43 | Ivanovic | you should get some fedex message once it is sent |
| 20:25.08 | Ivanovic | (yes, the tshirts were sent via fedex including tracking) |
| 20:25.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ivanovic, heh, got some messages from FedEx, but then again no tracking link so it's probably spam :) |
| 20:26.23 | Eduard_Munteanu | Does anyone know how they were sent last year? I'm asking because I received it via the local postal service (and Fedex gets them to my doorstep, which is better). |
| 20:26.44 | Ivanovic | last year it was plain air mail |
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| 20:26.52 | Ivanovic | this year it seems to be fedex for everything |
| 20:26.57 | Eduard_Munteanu | Nice. |
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| 20:29.55 | kendrick | mordante: only in that 'ironic' way. like when the are flaming meteorites raining down upon you. :) |
| 20:30.16 | kendrick | there have been some VERY good summaries of "why this is bad," which i appreciated. though at this point... man, the thread can die! |
| 20:30.25 | kendrick | esp. since almost noone's changing the Subject line! |
| 20:31.03 | mordante | indeed |
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| 22:31.01 | Landon | summatusmentis: http://www.pointersdelivery.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=26 om nom nom |
| 22:32.12 | summatusmentis | that's a lot of pizza |
| 22:33.57 | Landon | that is |
| 22:34.05 | Landon | missouri road trip? :D |
| 22:34.14 | Landon | actually doesnt look that big when you see it in slices |
| 22:34.23 | Landon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VopYIXTJeMs&NR=1 |
| 22:34.27 | Landon | (3minutes in) |
| 22:34.38 | summatusmentis | I don't think you understand what 10 pounds means |
| 22:35.00 | Landon | between 2 people |
| 22:35.57 | summatusmentis | yes |
| 22:36.06 | summatusmentis | that's 5 pounds per person |
| 22:36.09 | Landon | yes |
| 22:36.29 | summatusmentis | that's 3% of my body weight |
| 22:37.19 | Landon | little more for me, but yeah :D |
| 22:37.25 | Landon | less fat to constrict your stomach ;) |
| 22:38.37 | Landon | not saying I'd finish it |
| 22:38.41 | Landon | but I'd be willing to have a go |
| 22:39.58 | summatusmentis | good lord :) |
| 22:40.16 | Landon | I'm thinking about it this way |
| 22:40.23 | Landon | I can easily take down a 14" pizza and a bit |
| 22:40.33 | Landon | and 28" is just over 8* that |
| 22:40.40 | Landon | so 4 14" pizzas per person |
| 22:40.49 | Landon | the only problem I see would be holding it down if it came to that |
| 22:41.44 | summatusmentis | I don't have that kind of appetite :) |
| 22:42.08 | Landon | sad |
| 22:42.20 | Landon | although I really only have one friend I could consider doing this with :\ |
| 22:42.31 | Landon | everyone else eats slow and little :P |
| 22:42.32 | Landon | tsk |
| 22:42.58 | summatusmentis | I don't eat slow, but I don't have a huge appetite |
| 22:43.11 | Landon | really? |
| 22:43.31 | Landon | I always find that the slower I eat the less I eat |
| 22:48.28 | summatusmentis | well, it's because if you eat faster, it doesn't hit your stomach in as steady of a rate |
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| 23:40.20 | meanburrito920_ | when will info be released about the '10 gsoc? |
| 23:42.53 | Landon | possibly after they announce its existence |
| 23:44.17 | meanburrito920_ | that would make sense :) |
| 23:49.32 | summatusmentis | meanburrito920_: google doesn't really pre-announce programs |
| 23:49.51 | koryk | GSOC OH YEA |
| 23:50.29 | koryk | meanburrito920_: maybe while you're waiting for the summer you can do some programming competitions http://battlecode.mit.edu/2010/ |
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| 23:52.50 | Catfish_Man | or just hack on OSS projects :) |
| 23:56.04 | meanburrito920_ | I think I'll have to go with Catfish_Man's suggestion, as koryk's suggestion requires me to go to boston twice during the contest. i dont have the money/time :) |
| 23:56.25 | koryk | meanburrito920_: you don't have to go to boston |
| 23:56.26 | koryk | meanburrito920_: its all online |
| 23:56.39 | meanburrito920_ | koryk: nope, it says that you must be there for the opening and closing of the project |
| 23:56.41 | Catfish_Man | hacking on OSS is fun, and it can (in the long term) be profitable even without GSOC |
| 23:56.45 | Catfish_Man | I got my current job via it |
| 23:57.03 | koryk | meanburrito920_: thats probably only for the MIT students - I did it last year didn't have to go anywhere and won $100 |
| 23:57.05 | meanburrito920_ | http://battlecode.mit.edu/2010/registration/faq#attend |
| 23:57.35 | koryk | meanburrito920_: that is for students wanting college credit |
| 23:57.37 | meanburrito920_ | ah |
| 23:57.51 | koryk | there is a class that surrounds the competition at MIT |
| 23:58.03 | koryk | which is why they are judged seperately from other universities |