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| 01:17.51 | skbohra | just filled the survey form, and now wishes his mentor fills the form :) |
| 01:20.07 | skbohra | the final evaluation form is much smaller than the mid term evaluation form was |
| 01:32.47 | summatusmentis | good, the mid term was long |
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| 01:40.05 | ojwb | the mentor version seemed about the same |
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| 02:02.49 | r0bby | sighs |
| 02:03.01 | r0bby | does the mentor version have a "I pass this student" |
| 02:03.03 | r0bby | or similar? |
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| 02:14.29 | ojwb | yes, that's the final question |
| 02:15.07 | skbohra | why such a question ;) |
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| 02:19.17 | joeyadams | Where is the boundary between a failed student and a successful student (one who gets paid ;) ) ? I'm afraid I'm on the edge :( |
| 02:20.06 | skbohra | joeyadams: have you been in contact with your mentor? |
| 02:20.08 | joeyadams | Of course, a student who disappears is obviously a failed student. A student who does not complete review(s) on time is likely a failed student. |
| 02:20.14 | joeyadams | skbohra> Yes :) |
| 02:20.55 | joeyadams | My situation: I did rather well the first half (and received $2500 total). During my second half, I have almost nothing to show for it (nor did I spend nearly as much time as I should have) |
| 02:21.21 | skbohra | joeyadams: must be some reasons? |
| 02:22.01 | joeyadams | Honestly, laziness. Though what I was trying to do was probably too theoretical as well. |
| 02:22.50 | skbohra | joeyadams: that's sad, so do you want to be passed now? |
| 02:23.42 | joeyadams | I was trying to figure out a special kind of parsing for handling sections of code that may or may not be blocked out. Most of my work is on paper and not in code. |
| 02:24.10 | skbohra | joeyadams: in that case your mentor must be knowing what you are into, |
| 02:24.18 | joeyadams | Yeah, I've discussed it |
| 02:24.43 | skbohra | I hope you get passed, and stick with community |
| 02:24.44 | joeyadams | though I have pretty much zero deliverables. Everything I've done so far can be described as "infrastructure". |
| 02:24.44 | skbohra | :) |
| 02:25.10 | ojwb | to be a bit brutal, if you didn't spend the time on it and don't have the results to show, "fail" may be the right answer |
| 02:25.31 | ojwb | it's hard to really judge from a distance though |
| 02:25.58 | joeyadams | Thanks for the input. |
| 02:27.00 | joeyadams | I'm guessing one of my main pitfalls this summer was not specifying a deliverable that I could reasonably accomplish in just half a summer, then rigidly sticking to it. |
| 02:27.29 | ojwb | certainly some students have more ambitious plans than others |
| 02:27.29 | joeyadams | I should have also stuck to a rigid "spend at least 3 hours a day on this project" diet. |
| 02:28.39 | joeyadams | I guess now would be a good time for me to do my final eval, now that I've basically said all my comments on IRC :) |
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| 02:40.17 | skbohra | its always good to be honest |
| 02:40.19 | skbohra | :) |
| 02:40.30 | joeyadams | Thanks for the advice :) |
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| 13:50.34 | Beket | !next |
| 13:50.34 | socinfo | "next" is Final evaluations due by August 24th, final results announced August 25th, 19:00 UTC |
| 13:51.02 | Beket | mm, so mentors can submit their evaluations at the moment ? |
| 13:52.08 | Chainsaw | Correct! |
| 13:52.17 | Beket | Merci Chainsaw ! |
| 13:52.22 | Ivanovic | as well as students |
| 13:52.30 | Chainsaw | And project admins. |
| 13:52.40 | Beket | I don't think I got a reminder email, but I'll check again |
| 13:52.51 | Beket | (as in the midterm evaluations for instance) |
| 13:53.03 | Chainsaw | By the time you see the reminder, you're in danger of running late. |
| 13:53.07 | Ivanovic | uhm, there are no remainder mails so far |
| 13:53.25 | Ivanovic | the evals just started not two days ago |
| 13:54.09 | Ivanovic | and this was stated (the start of final evals) on all the appropriate mailling lists (student and mentor that is) |
| 13:55.04 | Beket | ah right, just did a search on 'evaluations' and got LH's email |
| 13:55.17 | Beket | I must have missed it among other stuff, thanks & sorry for the buzz |
| 13:55.32 | Beket | :) |
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| 13:55.56 | Ivanovic | no problem |
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| 13:58.26 | kblin | heyas Ivanovic |
| 13:58.37 | kblin | so how did wesnoth fare? |
| 14:00.33 | Ivanovic | quite good |
| 14:00.50 | Ivanovic | looks like 5 are clear passes, one failed but wants to implement his project anyway |
| 14:01.08 | Ivanovic | (failed since his computer broke down and some faimily issues) |
| 14:02.14 | Ivanovic | what about wine and samba? |
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| 14:09.01 | kblin | Ivanovic: need to kick my mentors :) |
| 14:09.21 | Ivanovic | hehe |
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| 14:12.12 | kblin | Ivanovic: that is on Samba one mentor mentoring three students is away and without internet access |
| 14:12.30 | kblin | still trying to catch him on his cell phone |
| 14:12.51 | thebolt | hi guys |
| 14:13.15 | Ivanovic | outsch, quite a bad situation, kblin |
| 14:13.28 | kblin | I know the outcome, just not all the replies for the survey |
| 14:14.03 | kblin | we're looking at three passed, one failed for samba, I think |
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| 14:14.22 | kblin | hey thebolt |
| 14:14.54 | Ivanovic | sounds okay to me |
| 14:17.05 | kblin | yeah |
| 14:17.25 | kblin | it looks like we need to fail a one of our four WF students |
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| 14:18.04 | kblin | and he was last year's star, stayed involved, took on a new area this year, was doing well in the mid-terms |
| 14:18.06 | Ivanovic | sad but it happens |
| 14:18.09 | kblin | and then went AWOL |
| 14:19.05 | Ivanovic | like what i wrote about the one that we have to fail |
| 14:19.05 | Ivanovic | he is really a *great* coder and really knows his stuff |
| 14:19.05 | kblin | ellen actually had to call him to figure out if he was still alive |
| 14:19.05 | Ivanovic | but his machine broke down plus family issues |
| 14:19.19 | kblin | no communication with us whatsoever |
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| 14:19.52 | kblin | he's back on IM and email now, but I'm still not sure why he vanished |
| 14:19.59 | Ivanovic | yeah, he was completely gone for a while, too |
| 14:20.32 | Ivanovic | though we managed to reach him, he explained why there was no real way to work on things and that he knows that he will fail final evals but continue and finish his work anyway |
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| 14:24.05 | kblin | I can understand real life happening |
| 14:24.20 | kblin | but there's no excuse for not telling your mentor |
| 14:24.57 | Ivanovic | yeah |
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