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| 04:19.56 | btfx | I did some of the problems for gsoc 2008, but never finished |
| 04:20.02 | btfx | Is that neat web app still up? |
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| 04:30.39 | btfx | The one where you can get input data and submit output data? |
| 04:31.21 | ojwb | btfx: are you sure that had anything to do with gsoc? |
| 04:31.36 | btfx | Uhh... It may have been 2007... |
| 04:31.43 | btfx | But... IIRC ,it was last summer |
| 04:32.01 | ojwb | there was some google coding competition a while ago, but nothing to do with gsoc |
| 04:32.12 | btfx | Hmm... |
| 04:32.17 | btfx | What was it called? |
| 04:32.23 | btfx | Codejam!!! |
| 04:32.34 | btfx | Oh man... I feel a little slow. |
| 04:33.37 | btfx | s/slow/silly/ |
| 04:34.19 | btfx | ibot, You just made my day |
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| 05:02.39 | omniter | GSoC's almost over :( |
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| 05:22.06 | kblin | morning |
| 05:22.22 | omniter | mornin |
| 05:22.45 | Landon | hmmmmmmmm |
| 05:22.54 | Landon | my computer has 4 gigs of memory now |
| 05:23.04 | Landon | bios shows 4 gigs, ubuntu shows 2.7g o.O |
| 05:23.15 | kblin | 32bit box? |
| 05:23.18 | Landon | yeah |
| 05:23.26 | Landon | but shouldnt it be more like 3.x ish |
| 05:23.35 | Landon | gfx card is only 640mb |
| 05:23.37 | Catfish_Man | linux uses a 3:1 user:kernel split doesn't it? |
| 05:23.47 | Catfish_Man | (by default anyway) |
| 05:24.01 | kblin | ah, I think you need a -server kernel to get access to all the memory, I think |
| 05:24.04 | Landon | well, cat /proc/meminfo should show all that it sees, right? |
| 05:24.08 | Catfish_Man | not sure |
| 05:24.28 | Catfish_Man | doesn't have a /proc/meminfo |
| 05:24.50 | kblin | I've got one gig, and /proc/meminfo shows all of it |
| 05:25.10 | kblin | Catfish_Man: the 3:1 split is for the addressable memory, I think |
| 05:25.21 | Catfish_Man | kblin: yeah, I just wasn't sure what Landon was measuring |
| 05:25.44 | Landon | MemTotal from /proc/meminfo >.> |
| 05:26.06 | kblin | Landon: Catfish_Man is an OSX user iirc |
| 05:26.11 | Catfish_Man | indeed |
| 05:26.15 | Landon | ah, right |
| 05:26.16 | Catfish_Man | 4:4 split here when in 32 bit mode |
| 05:26.18 | Catfish_Man | it is kinda dumb |
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| 05:27.06 | kblin | Landon: as I said, I think for the 32bit kernels, you need a -server variant to get large memory support |
| 05:27.46 | kblin | Landon: I don't remember having to do anything special for my 8 gig mem box, but that's a 64bit system, with a 64bit distro |
| 05:27.47 | Landon | yeah, I figured that, I just thought I'd see more RAM even without large memory support |
| 05:28.38 | kblin | you can't address it without that feature, how would you see it? |
| 05:29.15 | Landon | well, the 32 bit limit is 4 gigs, right? |
| 05:29.24 | Landon | minus whatever my graphics card has and other misc devices |
| 05:29.33 | Landon | but I'm only seeing 2.7g out of that 4g |
| 05:29.47 | rwcr | There are more complicated issues. |
| 05:30.00 | Landon | I've always heard it was closer to 3.2-3.5g that I'd be seeing |
| 05:30.34 | rwcr | Look at the very beginning of your dmesg, for "BIOS provided physical memory map". |
| 05:30.46 | rwcr | It might provide clues. |
| 05:33.24 | Landon | hm yeah I see it, but not any clues I can comprehend, down a bit further it says 1930MB HIGHMEM available, 883MB LOWMEM available |
| 05:33.45 | rwcr | Perhaps post the memory info you're having trouble with on a pastebin site? |
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| 05:35.26 | Landon | http://pastebin.com/d5b079286 |
| 05:35.44 | Landon | start of dmesg until the area I commented about |
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| 05:36.30 | rwcr | A-ha. |
| 05:37.11 | rwcr | Your BIOS has chosen to put about 2814 MB of the memory below the 4GB mark, and the rest above. |
| 05:37.30 | Landon | ouch, what a dick :P |
| 05:37.43 | Landon | shakes his fist "GET BACK DOWN HERE" |
| 05:37.45 | rwcr | The remaining 1282 MB are taken up some by your graphics card, some by PCI memory-mapped IO (which often reserves a LOT more than is really needed). |
| 05:38.00 | rwcr | Any memory with a physical address above 4GB simply can't be addressed by a kernel without PAE. |
| 05:38.20 | Landon | sounds like I may be recompiling a kernel tonight then |
| 05:38.32 | rwcr | Or just switch to 64-bit :-) |
| 05:38.59 | Landon | afraid too much will break |
| 05:39.04 | Landon | especially wrt to my soc project |
| 05:39.22 | Landon | the python-ogre libs it depends on are a fickle beast at the best of times :\ |
| 05:39.54 | rwcr | The option you want is "Processor type and features" --> |
| 05:40.11 | rwcr | "High Memory Support" --> "64GB" |
| 05:40.13 | rwcr | "4GB" is not enough. |
| 05:40.20 | Landon | actually, it looks like I may just need to install the linux-server and related packages |
| 05:40.25 | Landon | (yay ubuntu) |
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| 05:49.33 | Landon | oh boy, lets see ifitworks |
| 05:51.11 | Landon | huzzah |
| 05:52.25 | rwcr | Great. |
| 05:52.40 | rwcr | By the way, "LOWMEM" is memory that the kernel keeps permanently mapped in the part of its 1GB address space that it's not using. |
| 05:53.00 | rwcr | "HIGHMEM" is memory that is only mapped on demand into an application's 3GB address space when needed. |
| 05:53.39 | rwcr | I *believe* that it's only LOWMEM that can be used for things like disk caches. |
| 05:54.53 | Landon | interesting, wish I had more time to learn about kernel stuff, but that seems like a hell of a rabbithole to jump down |
| 06:05.26 | Upthorn | rwcr: that sounds about right |
| 06:06.02 | kblin | man, I'm not creative today at all |
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| 11:48.54 | kblin | meh |
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| 11:49.53 | Ivanovic | kblin: -vvv |
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| 11:51.03 | samiran | waves hello to all the open source developer |
| 11:51.24 | Ivanovic | hi samiran |
| 11:51.36 | samiran | hi ivanovic |
| 11:51.54 | samiran | r u a participating this year |
| 11:52.15 | kblin | hi samiran |
| 11:52.26 | Ivanovic | i am org admin for battle for wesnoth |
| 11:52.31 | Ivanovic | so somehow i am participating |
| 11:52.33 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 11:52.37 | samiran | hi kblin |
| 11:53.13 | kblin | Ivanovic: stupid flash plugin piece or crap. the ubuntu installer from ubuntu refuses to install the current security update, the deb installer from adobe is 32bit only |
| 11:53.26 | samiran | battle for wesnoth what's that |
| 11:53.38 | Ivanovic | samiran: http://www.wesnoth.org |
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| 12:11.00 | samrb | i could not get my nickname "samiran" after being disconnected |
| 12:11.12 | samrb | what do i do |
| 12:12.07 | MaNI | wait for the server to time the old version of you out |
| 12:12.16 | MaNI | or use the ghost command to make it do it quicker |
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| 14:18.05 | omniter | hey does anyone else here have a citi prepaid card? |
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| 14:18.27 | omniter | their website seems to be down, and i'm not sure what number to call either =\ |
| 14:18.28 | thiago_home | I'm waiting for my citi credit card |
| 14:18.37 | thiago_home | but I'm pretty sure it's completely unrelated to yours |
| 14:18.58 | omniter | oh |
| 14:19.23 | omniter | i'm talking about the one that google uses to pay me |
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| 14:22.18 | omniter | oh nvm i found it. tahnks :) |
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| 15:15.36 | RainCT | Hi |
| 15:17.01 | MaNI | hello |
| 15:18.47 | RainCT | I think I've just go a subscription to ACM from my university (well or at least I've got a mail titled "ACM Welcomes you as a New Student Member" and I know they've activated my account at the university's website just a few days ago, so I figure it comes from them). Do I just lose one of the two subscriptions or is there something I can do? |
| 15:19.28 | kpreid | RainCT: Check the students list ... people say they had success in combining subscriptions if you call support |
| 15:20.12 | RainCT | Ah cool, will do. Thanks. |
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| 15:21.21 | makmanalp | RainCT: i don't think that's from the university, i got one too |
| 15:21.37 | makmanalp | RainCT: i think it's because we didn't do the official signup |
| 15:21.43 | kpreid | huh |
| 15:21.55 | kpreid | *I* just got another ACM Welcomes you ... message |
| 15:22.18 | makmanalp | okay, so it's what i just said i think |
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| 15:24.42 | RainCT | Oh OK, you're probably right. (I know the university gives MSDN accounts so that why I thought it could come from there, but I've just asked a classmate and he didn't get it). |
| 15:24.53 | RainCT | OK so I'll just ignore the mail. Thanks guys. |
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| 17:32.15 | Fernanda- | hi!!! |
| 17:33.05 | araujo | hola |
| 17:33.38 | Fernanda- | hablas espanol? |
| 17:35.28 | thiago_home | sees a Brazilian IP |
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| 17:45.59 | araujo | Fernanda-, si |
| 17:46.04 | araujo | Fernanda-, y tu? |
| 17:46.41 | Fernanda- | tambien, un poquito |
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| 19:00.58 | loufoque | do the student prepaid citi accounts for gsoc ever expire? |
| 19:01.30 | t0ms | loufoque: your card will expire in '12 |
| 19:01.44 | loufoque | what about the account |
| 19:01.56 | loufoque | will I be charged fees to keep it till 2012? |
| 19:02.04 | Landon | if you dont withdraw everything |
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| 19:08.30 | smtms | t0ms, I think the card will expire before '12 |
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| 19:18.09 | t0ms | smtms: let me see |
| 19:18.21 | t0ms | smtms: April 2012 |
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| 19:19.57 | smtms | t0ms, I'd search the e-mail archive for more correct information by Leslie/Ellen Ko |
| 19:20.45 | t0ms | smtms: the card says good thru 04/12 |
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| 19:35.10 | Fernanda- | someone from india? |
| 19:40.45 | araujo | Fernanda-, you? |
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