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| 03:22.01 | vitor_ | Hi everyone... I am trying to register my card with Citi but I am having some problems... I called their number and entered my account number. Ok. |
| 03:22.06 | vitor_ | But then they ask my 5-digit zip code... |
| 03:22.22 | vitor_ | Well, I tried my zip code (which isn't 5-digit, btw (I live in Brazil)), and it didn't worked.. |
| 03:22.26 | Landon | I think this is in the card FAQ |
| 03:22.32 | Landon | or the getting started thing |
| 03:22.37 | vitor_ | Landon: *checking* |
| 03:22.39 | Landon | check the mailing list for leslies posts on it |
| 03:22.42 | Landon | I believe you use googles address |
| 03:23.02 | summatusmentis | I'm impressed you know that off the top of your head Landon |
| 03:23.23 | ojwb | heck, even I know you should use google's zip code |
| 03:23.27 | ojwb | and I'm not a student |
| 03:23.53 | summatusmentis | I'm sitting here going "I'm sure there's something you're supposed to do, but I don't know... hrm" |
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| 03:41.48 | skbohra | the payment is expected in, next couple of days? |
| 03:42.36 | summatusmentis | I would guess by the end of the week, but I'm not sure |
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| 07:27.03 | Lennie | Final round of nag mails about evaluations are going out now :) |
| 07:27.08 | Lennie | If you receive one you'd better fill yours in :) |
| 07:27.31 | Nightrose | Lennie: yay - down to two \o/ |
| 07:27.40 | Nightrose | can you send another round to get rid of the final two as well? :D |
| 07:27.41 | Lennie | that's 2 less again? :) |
| 07:27.49 | Nightrose | every time you send a round 2 seem to fill theirs out |
| 07:27.54 | ArthurLiu | 11h 33m 'till rapture |
| 07:27.55 | Lennie | hehe |
| 07:28.03 | ArthurLiu | one left.. |
| 07:28.18 | kblin | Lennie: so, is there anything I can do about students not filling out their surveys? |
| 07:28.36 | Lennie | see post on mentors list for a humble suggestion :P |
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| 07:29.55 | Ivanovic | kblin: i guess that all you can do is to ping via other ways than mail (irc, phone, whatever) |
| 07:30.07 | Ivanovic | beside this you can only "pray" that they fill out the survey... |
| 07:30.36 | Lennie | :) |
| 07:31.21 | Landon | God, I would like to file a bug report |
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| 07:32.01 | Lennie | God is not here right now, please leave a message |
| 07:32.13 | Lennie | anyhow feel free to do so if it is about Melange :) |
| 07:32.26 | Ivanovic | Landon: sorry, no time to take care of you right now, got to wake up first... |
| 07:32.28 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 07:32.34 | Landon | touched |
| 07:32.36 | Landon | er |
| 07:32.37 | Landon | :\ |
| 07:32.39 | Landon | touche* |
| 07:32.53 | Landon | Lennie: nah, users that haven't filled it out |
| 07:32.57 | Landon | must have bad wetware |
| 07:34.24 | Lennie | Morning Ivanovic , mails going out again :) |
| 07:34.46 | Ivanovic | Lennie: saw the message already |
| 07:34.56 | Lennie | :) |
| 07:35.00 | Ivanovic | that is: i should not get any mail regarding mentors anymore |
| 07:35.04 | Ivanovic | not sure about students... |
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| 07:39.41 | trasz | is there any way to check if my mentor filled the midterm survey? |
| 07:40.21 | Ivanovic | no |
| 07:42.07 | kblin | hm, good, only one mentor seems to be missing in action |
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| 07:44.03 | Lennie | trasz: If you get mail within the next 15min or so then you know |
| 07:44.15 | Lennie | if you don't have mail trasz (as org admin I hope) then your org is fine :) |
| 07:44.31 | trasz | Lennie: well, no, i'm a student. |
| 07:44.34 | Ryan52 | !next |
| 07:44.35 | socinfo | "next" is July 13: Deadline for mid-term evaluations. |
| 07:44.40 | Lennie | trasz: then you don't know :) |
| 07:44.50 | trasz | Lennie: however - does that mean that in the 15 minutes my org admins will know? |
| 07:44.51 | Lennie | ask your mentor |
| 07:45.08 | Lennie | trasz: They will have received a third email if it hasn't happened yet |
| 07:45.12 | Lennie | there were 3 rounds of reminders :) |
| 07:45.18 | Lennie | and the last one is going out now |
| 07:45.32 | Lennie | and it only goes out to the ones who haven't filled in the eval yet |
| 07:45.44 | trasz | Lennie: ah. just to verify - the org _admins_ will know, not just my mentor? (my mentor seems to be on vacation) |
| 07:46.00 | Lennie | to: mentor cc: org_admins :) |
| 07:46.04 | trasz | Lennie: ah. |
| 07:46.04 | kblin | goes to look for a cell phone number |
| 07:46.06 | trasz | Lennie: thanks! |
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| 07:46.45 | tokal | hi |
| 07:46.48 | Lennie | yw trasz |
| 07:46.49 | Lennie | hi TobiasFar |
| 07:46.55 | Lennie | hi tokal (autocomplete ftl) |
| 07:46.58 | tokal | i need some info on the chrome OS project |
| 07:47.10 | tokal | where's a channel for it |
| 07:47.13 | tokal | here? |
| 07:47.21 | scorche|sh | tokal: this is a channel for the google summer of code program....not a general google channel |
| 07:47.55 | tokal | i think i made myself clear |
| 07:48.02 | scorche|sh | i think i did too |
| 07:48.03 | tokal | obviously i didnt find a chrome channel |
| 07:48.07 | tokal | which is why im here |
| 07:48.10 | tokal | no you're not reading me right |
| 07:48.15 | Lennie | tokal: You didn't made that clear |
| 07:48.17 | tokal | im well aware its a gsoc channel |
| 07:48.19 | kblin | tokal: and obviously here isn't the place either |
| 07:48.36 | tokal | i didnt say this was the place |
| 07:48.37 | tokal | did i? |
| 07:48.37 | Lennie | ask in #google, if that exists :P |
| 07:48.38 | tokal | i asked |
| 07:48.42 | scorche|sh | tokal: i am saying that this isnt the place...this also isnt the place to find out where the right channel might be |
| 07:48.45 | tokal | <tokal> where's a channel for it |
| 07:48.59 | tokal | well then you could've said that in the beginning |
| 07:49.01 | tokal | fine |
| 07:49.18 | Lennie | tokal: Work on the attitude please, ty |
| 07:49.25 | tokal | eh? |
| 07:49.28 | tokal | what about your guys? |
| 07:49.32 | tokal | attacking right awya just because i asked |
| 07:49.38 | scorche|sh | no one attacked you... |
| 07:49.45 | tokal | and heck you guys were not even on the topic until the last bit scorche|sh mentioned |
| 07:49.54 | tokal | yeah |
| 07:49.54 | tokal | whatever |
| 07:49.55 | tokal | thanksx |
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| 07:50.26 | kblin | uhm |
| 07:50.33 | Lennie | wow, sorry guys but he came over really aggressive :P |
| 07:50.34 | scorche|sh | someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning |
| 07:50.50 | Lennie | scorche|sh: glad you feel the same ^^ |
| 07:50.59 | kblin | how would someone who just joined know what we were talking about before he joined? |
| 07:51.03 | kblin | did he look up the logs? |
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| 07:51.10 | Lennie | logs are not real time :D |
| 07:51.14 | scorche|sh | i think we meant HIS topic |
| 07:51.22 | Lennie | egocentric world view ^_^ ? |
| 07:51.25 | scorche|sh | either way, not worth going over =) |
| 07:51.30 | kblin | oh well |
| 07:51.32 | kblin | ponders |
| 07:51.43 | Lennie | back to coding GSoC important stuff for Melange ^^ |
| 07:51.43 | scorche|sh | goes back to Robot Chicken |
| 07:51.46 | kblin | so my MIA mentor was still awake about six hours ago |
| 07:52.06 | kblin | so I should probably give him another hour or two |
| 07:52.22 | kblin | deadline is 19:00 UTC, right? |
| 07:52.31 | Ivanovic | jupp |
| 07:52.40 | Ivanovic | so basically 11 hours are left |
| 07:53.06 | Lennie | there are still ~200 evaluations not done |
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| 07:53.20 | Lennie | (judging from Mail API calls) |
| 07:54.01 | kblin | Lennie: not sure.. I just got one notification three times |
| 07:54.10 | Lennie | kblin: really :D? |
| 07:54.25 | Lennie | buggy Task API ^_^ |
| 07:54.31 | Lennie | it's still in labs for a reason |
| 07:54.35 | Lennie | but atleast it does its work |
| 07:54.54 | kblin | yeah, as far as I can see, only one mentor is missing his evals, and he's got three students |
| 07:55.00 | Lennie | oh |
| 07:55.04 | Lennie | that's not three times the same mail then |
| 07:55.08 | kblin | it's to be expected, for all I know the mentor is on vacation |
| 07:55.16 | Lennie | you get one for each project |
| 07:55.17 | kblin | I got five emails, though |
| 07:55.26 | Lennie | hmm interesting :D |
| 07:55.28 | kblin | :) |
| 07:55.30 | Lennie | mwah |
| 07:55.45 | Lennie | not gonna fix that till the Task API is out of the labs namespace for AppEngine |
| 07:55.58 | kblin | yeah, no biggie |
| 07:56.09 | Lennie | if it still occurs often when that has happened, then something should be done :) |
| 07:56.20 | kblin | all I'm saying is that maybe there's even less evaluations missing |
| 07:56.22 | Lennie | atleast these tasks don't transfer money :P |
| 07:56.39 | Lennie | ^^ |
| 07:57.20 | Lennie | back to coding :) |
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| 08:02.05 | Landon | Lennie: I dunno... |
| 08:02.14 | Landon | I wouldn't mind $6000 for midterms |
| 08:02.19 | Lennie | :D |
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| 08:15.27 | kblin | ok, more emails, durnit |
| 08:15.58 | Landon | grrr, wheres me sleep |
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| 09:43.40 | kblin | Is there an english word that's derogative for a graphic user interface? |
| 09:44.11 | [0-0] | derogui |
| 09:44.13 | MaNI | windows |
| 09:44.43 | kblin | well, more generic than "windows" |
| 09:44.46 | Lennie | display? |
| 09:45.15 | MaNI | don't think so |
| 09:45.25 | Lennie | (note I have no idea what derogative means :P) |
| 09:45.52 | MaNI | gerogative == expresses a negative opinion |
| 09:46.00 | MaNI | *derogative |
| 09:46.01 | kblin | well, a german equivalent would be "bunti-klicki" |
| 09:46.20 | xorAxAx | but thats very kolloquial |
| 09:46.27 | xorAxAx | -k +c |
| 09:46.27 | kblin | expressing the contempt for a colorful UI where clicking replaces thinking |
| 09:46.28 | [0-0] | :D |
| 09:46.55 | kblin | xorAxAx: yeah, but that's pretty much the intention |
| 09:46.57 | Kaetemi | button mashing |
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| 09:48.29 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: "Fisher-Price GUI" might be UK only |
| 09:48.44 | j-b | hey, as an admin, can I access all midterm evaluations? |
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| 09:51.57 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: The mental image is something like: http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ha/halsall-mattel-fisher-price-fun-2-learn-laptop.jpg |
| 09:52.11 | aghisla | MatthewWilkes: fisher-price is well known in italy too |
| 09:52.17 | aghisla | :D |
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| 09:52.54 | Lennie | j-b: Nope you can't |
| 09:53.06 | j-b | Lennie: :'( |
| 09:53.13 | Lennie | You will be able to one day :) |
| 09:53.17 | Lennie | just not now |
| 09:53.32 | j-b | Lennie: well, I have a mentor that seems impossible to reach, that is why I ask |
| 09:53.48 | Lennie | j-b: assign one of your other mentors as primary mentor and let them fill in the survey :) |
| 09:54.14 | j-b | Lennie: thx for the tip |
| 10:00.25 | kblin | Lennie: say, if I fill out a survey on behalf of a mentor, and then reassign the original mentor, can she modify the survey? |
| 10:01.26 | ArthurLiu | any idea when admins will be able to see the mentor surveys ? |
| 10:01.40 | ArthurLiu | I have a trick to do it manually but hum |
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| 10:03.37 | kblin | __d3f0__: I really wish you'd turn this off |
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| 11:13.16 | ojwb | kblin: I've heard "point and drool" used before |
| 11:18.13 | MatthewWilkes | yeah, that's a good'un |
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| 12:24.11 | kdub | question, if you do not pass the midterm eval, what happens? are you exiled from the program? |
| 12:25.14 | borja | kdub: You can't continue working on GSoC (I mean, you can continue to work on your project, but you won't get paid for it) |
| 12:25.59 | kdub | oh, so you miss out on the rest of the payments then? |
| 12:26.24 | MaNI | correct |
| 12:26.28 | borja | kdub: yeah, if you fail the midterm, you miss the midterm payment and will not be considered for the final payment |
| 12:26.48 | borja | i.e., you can't fail the midterm and then pass the final |
| 12:29.12 | kdub | well, that wolud suck, lets hope i pass |
| 12:29.18 | kdub | does my mentor determine that? |
| 12:29.48 | borja | kdub: yes, it's entirely up to your mentor. If you're unsure about whether you'll pass or not, you should talk with him |
| 12:31.04 | ojwb | it should be rare that failing comes as a surprise to the student |
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| 12:32.34 | borja | I think so too, although I can't speak for organizations other than my own |
| 12:37.31 | ajuonline | kdub: that also means, you can call yourself a SoC Participant |
| 12:37.44 | ajuonline | not a SoC Student |
| 12:37.46 | ajuonline | iirc |
| 12:38.11 | ajuonline | removed from the students list as well |
| 12:38.12 | ajuonline | i guess |
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| 12:54.43 | kdub | i was just wondering how it works, is all :P |
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| 13:01.43 | ojwb | the end of the mentor survey has a "grade" of "pass" or "fail" |
| 13:01.56 | ojwb | that's what determines it |
| 13:05.08 | Nightrose | cries |
| 13:05.15 | Nightrose | still 2 mentors to go.... |
| 13:05.38 | Venus_Mars | is there any way to confirm the evaluation are submitted |
| 13:05.45 | Venus_Mars | thought submitting them 2 times |
| 13:05.54 | Venus_Mars | i get a reminder to fill it out |
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| 13:26.23 | MatthewWilkes | hah, "midterm review filed" can be sooo easily misread |
| 13:27.24 | summatusmentis | :) |
| 13:31.33 | ojwb | hmm, i worry how long it took me to understand that |
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| 15:52.19 | ajuonline | hi webchick , how are you doing ? :) |
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| 15:52.58 | ajuonline | i wanted to ask you, ohw does your site show each contributions in user profiles? do you use a component to automatically track contributions and commits? |
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| 15:57.36 | aghisla | sees deadline approaching |
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| 15:58.27 | xorAxAx | !next |
| 15:58.27 | socinfo | "next" is July 13: Deadline for mid-term evaluations. |
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| 16:01.32 | mmadia | just to make sure, is there any way for an org admin, who is also a mentor to review the surveys from the other mentors? |
| 16:02.06 | ojwb | not currently, except perhaps by assigning yourself as a mentor for each student temporarily |
| 16:02.31 | mmadia | thank you, ojwb |
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| 17:21.54 | Ivanovic | lh: so any hint about a student who has (probably) not filled out his form so far? |
| 17:21.54 | lh | Ivanovic: what do you mean by hint? |
| 17:21.54 | Ivanovic | (he was not typing anything in irc for the last 9 days) |
| 17:21.55 | Ivanovic | hint as in "what to do about him so that he fills out the form in time" |
| 17:21.55 | lh | Ivanovic: ok. it is possible he is on vacation or something? |
| 17:22.05 | Ivanovic | if he is, he has not told us about it |
| 17:22.07 | lh | Ivanovic: ah. i assume you have emailed him right? |
| 17:22.21 | Ivanovic | he has the normal notification mails (those automatic ones) |
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| 17:22.28 | Ivanovic | don't have another email contact for him |
| 17:22.39 | lh | Ivanovic: pm me his name wil see what i can do |
| 17:22.42 | Ivanovic | he is on freenode but has not reacted on a ping |
| 17:23.23 | codestasher | lh can we make any changes in the form now ? |
| 17:23.32 | ajuonline | codestasher: yes, until deadline |
| 17:23.42 | ajuonline | lh: o HAIIII! |
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| 17:25.16 | codestasher | ajuonline that link is not dere in profile now |
| 17:26.04 | MatthewWilkes | lh! How goes? |
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| 17:26.45 | ajuonline | codestasher: http://socghop.appspot.com/project_survey/take/program/google/gsoc2009/studentmid09 |
| 17:26.59 | gangil | will there be any notification mail about pass/fail ? and when will it be? |
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| 17:27.24 | lh | MatthewWilkes: lovely! |
| 17:27.26 | lh | ajuonline: hi |
| 17:27.34 | codestasher | ajuonline awesome i was looking for the red color :) |
| 17:28.33 | lh | has to wander off, bbialb |
| 17:28.52 | summatusmentis | oh bummer, missed her |
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| 17:48.16 | kblin | hi folks |
| 17:49.33 | summatusmentis | hi kblin |
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| 17:50.12 | ajuonline | kblin: hello, |
| 17:52.33 | Landon | hi woerld |
| 17:52.52 | summatusmentis | ugh, Landon is here? |
| 17:53.00 | summatusmentis | leaves in disgust |
| 17:53.06 | Landon | oh thank god |
| 17:53.11 | Landon | summatusmentis is leaving |
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| 17:54.57 | summatusmentis | I wonder if my parents get can money off of a dell netbook |
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| 17:55.21 | Arc | is there a place for org admins to see a list of mentors who haven't completed their surveys yet? |
| 17:55.54 | Nightrose | Arc: if oyu are an admin with missing surveys you shoudl have gotten email |
| 17:55.54 | Nightrose | s |
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| 17:56.13 | Arc | I have, but I'm looking for current status. |
| 17:56.23 | Nightrose | ah then dunno - i'd be interested in this as well |
| 17:56.28 | Nightrose | i have two outstanding ones |
| 17:56.31 | kblin | same here |
| 17:56.38 | kblin | I just asked on #melange as well |
| 17:56.42 | Nightrose | thx |
| 17:56.47 | dhaun | and another one here :-/ |
| 17:56.48 | lh | kblin: good call, doubt we can get answers elseise |
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| 17:57.03 | kblin | hey jelmer |
| 17:57.06 | jelmer | hey Kai |
| 17:57.10 | kblin | jelmer: filled out the surveys? |
| 17:57.23 | jelmer | kblin: almost done |
| 17:57.27 | kblin | yay |
| 17:57.35 | kblin | three down, one to go |
| 17:57.41 | Nightrose | heh |
| 17:57.55 | kblin | lh: of course the last missing mentor is a googler ;) |
| 17:58.22 | summatusmentis | lh: hi! |
| 17:58.28 | lh | kblin: omg are you kidding? do i need to go beat someone? |
| 17:58.30 | lh | summatusmentis: hey |
| 17:59.17 | ajuonline | hands lh a stick |
| 17:59.29 | Ivanovic | lh: if you do so, please capture a demonstration video |
| 17:59.45 | Landon | for "educational" purpses |
| 17:59.48 | Ivanovic | so that we as admins can show around what happens if deadlines are in danger of being broken |
| 17:59.53 | kblin | lh: I already got hold of his boss :) |
| 18:00.06 | Wolf_OSGeo | so any news on how I can check up which slackers I have to go spank? |
| 18:00.08 | Nightrose | haha |
| 18:00.15 | Ivanovic | Wolf_OSGeo: you can't |
| 18:00.20 | Wolf_OSGeo | :( |
| 18:00.26 | Ivanovic | jupp |
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| 18:00.40 | Ivanovic | that is: all you know is the last round of remainder mails lennie send around |
| 18:00.52 | kblin | lh: and maybe he already took care of it and I'm doing him an injustice |
| 18:01.05 | Wolf_OSGeo | is there any chance of getting another mail about now? |
| 18:01.29 | Ivanovic | hmm, lennie is not around, maybe lh can somehow send such a mail |
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| 18:02.47 | Wolf_OSGeo | lh: can you? |
| 18:03.19 | Wolf_OSGeo | oh and sorry. I forgot to say. Please please pretty please with a cherry on top! |
| 18:03.22 | kblin | I'm actually more concerned about that missing student |
| 18:03.35 | jelmer | kblin: sorry for the bad timing, the midterms always seem to be the monday *after* a festival :-) |
| 18:03.45 | lh | Ivanovic: leslie can't send mail |
| 18:03.47 | kblin | jelmer: no problem |
| 18:03.53 | lh | leslie is trying to get on con call with melange team righ tnow |
| 18:04.04 | Wolf_OSGeo | kblin: that too. But I'd hate for another wise good student to fail due to a slacking mentor |
| 18:04.09 | kblin | jelmer: as long as things happen in time |
| 18:04.23 | kblin | Wolf_OSGeo: yeah, that's my last possbly missing mentor |
| 18:04.32 | Wolf_OSGeo | if the student is failed bacause he is a slacker, too bad so sad, but if it is the fault of a mentor that would be horrible |
| 18:04.33 | kblin | Wolf_OSGeo: I know the student is doing good work |
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| 18:04.59 | Ivanovic | jelmer: uhm, festivals usually don't take the whole week |
| 18:05.02 | Wolf_OSGeo | go lh! :D |
| 18:05.11 | Ivanovic | mid term eval can be filled *befor* going to the festival |
| 18:05.25 | Wolf_OSGeo | nods |
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| 18:07.19 | dhaun | looking ahead, it may help to "star" this issue, for the next round of surveys: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=659 |
| 18:07.26 | Wolf_OSGeo | there is rally no excuse to not filling that mid-term eval. I had time to quit my job, go to two interviews, get hired, study QT and write a 8-page for school essay, and STILL get the mid term eval done. |
| 18:08.14 | Wolf_OSGeo | oh and find a new host for my server :P |
| 18:08.32 | aghisla | claps hands |
| 18:08.54 | Arc | Wolf_OSGeo: i think a lot of mentors are giving their students extra time to prove themselves, I know that was the case with one student we had |
| 18:09.08 | mordante | Ivanovic, some festivals do ;-) |
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| 18:09.44 | Wolf_OSGeo | that is also the case with at least one of our mentors too, burt it is cutting it a bit shor if they leave it to the last hour. IMHO. Then again I don't know if I still have any slackers left... |
| 18:10.05 | Wolf_OSGeo | last year one mentor got his timezones mixed up and would have missed the deadline... |
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| 18:10.29 | Ivanovic | dhaun: yes, this one *is* needed but not available so far |
| 18:10.30 | Wolf_OSGeo | all I'd like to do is know if I have slackers, yes or no |
| 18:10.31 | Ivanovic | (saidly) |
| 18:10.49 | dhaun | Ivanovic: I know - I was suggesting voting for it |
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| 18:12.19 | Arc | can a final email batch be run so org admins can take appropriate last minute action on these? |
| 18:12.43 | Arc | perhaps a batch that reads "UNDER AN HOUR" in the subject |
| 18:13.25 | Arc | i just got four mentors to file theirs, but haven't heard from two yet |
| 18:15.35 | kblin | Arc: last I heard lh was going to phone the melange folks and ask |
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| 18:17.56 | sadam | Arc: I'd second your request for an update on missing evals |
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| 18:20.43 | lh | they may do another email blast hang on |
| 18:20.53 | Nightrose | \o/ |
| 18:21.15 | kblin | yay |
| 18:23.43 | Wolf_OSGeo | \o/ |
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| 18:28.33 | dhaun | here's a tip that may help some with missing mentors: you can switch mentors around and let someone else fill in the survey |
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| 18:28.45 | dhaun | (assuming you have some other mentor familiar with the project) |
| 18:28.50 | lh | Another batch of reminder emails are going to be sent out. |
| 18:29.01 | Arc | or switch them around and fill them out over the phone, if they're on vacation |
| 18:29.05 | Nightrose | all praise lh and the team |
| 18:29.07 | Arc | thats what I've heard from most of our late mentors |
| 18:29.31 | kblin | Nightrose: I agree |
| 18:29.45 | dhaun | joins in |
| 18:29.54 | lh | Nightrose: don't praise me, i just relay the messages. :) |
| 18:30.00 | Nightrose | hehe |
| 18:30.10 | Nightrose | then please relay my praise as well D: |
| 18:30.14 | Nightrose | :D even |
| 18:30.17 | aghisla | lh: too humble :) |
| 18:30.27 | Arc | ive also heard from many that they saw the email, but thought it said a different date, or different time. ie, they thought it was midnight tonight, or 7pm EDT |
| 18:30.40 | Nightrose | Oo |
| 18:31.05 | anothy_x | we have one student who has essentially dropped out at this point. clearly he's failing mid-terms, but is there any other action we should take based on the fact that he's not completing his own mid-term survey? |
| 18:31.11 | lh | aghisla: nah. |
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| 18:31.56 | summatusmentis | whoa, new nick kblin? |
| 18:32.00 | kai | stupid laggy IPv6 connection |
| 18:32.03 | Arc | we have a student that's done basically nothing but cause problems, complaining about being dropped |
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| 18:32.05 | *** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Evaluations Now Due at 23:00 UTC 13 jUly 2009 - More Nag mails for missing surveys coming soon - Midterm evaluations are in progress. - Instructions for Mentors/Org Admins: http://tinyurl.com/mentormidevals - Instructions for Students: http://tinyurl.com/studentmidevals - This channel is logged (!logs) |
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| 18:32.23 | kai | yeah, I got hold of my first name during a recent purge |
| 18:32.41 | kai | so now it's my backup nick |
| 18:32.50 | summatusmentis | cool :) |
| 18:32.55 | summatusmentis | I should see if jts is available |
| 18:32.55 | aghisla | lh: it's tough to be at the head of everything |
| 18:33.06 | lh | aghisla: lol. |
| 18:33.30 | aju | kai: thnnks :) |
| 18:33.54 | kai | lh: anyway, what I wanted to say, just take the praise, we'll cheer the melange folks when they log on |
| 18:33.56 | summatusmentis | aju: what's the 'u' ? |
| 18:34.12 | aju | summatusmentis: i cudnt get aj |
| 18:34.12 | lh | kai: ok that's cool |
| 18:34.15 | aju | its already in use |
| 18:34.34 | aju | summatusmentis: aju is what my mom calls me :P |
| 18:34.37 | summatusmentis | aju: well, that's fair, but even with ajuonline, does the 'u' have meaning? |
| 18:34.39 | summatusmentis | oh, I see |
| 18:34.46 | summatusmentis | cute :) |
| 18:35.04 | kai | and yay for the deadline extension :) |
| 18:35.14 | aju | o noes |
| 18:35.37 | summatusmentis | ? it wasn't extended that long |
| 18:35.56 | summatusmentis | something like 4 hours? |
| 18:36.02 | kai | yeah |
| 18:36.16 | aju | tweets it |
| 18:36.31 | kai | enough to hunt down the remaining slackers :) |
| 18:36.31 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 18:38.23 | aju | :) summatusmentis |
| 18:38.29 | summatusmentis | it's registered |
| 18:38.34 | summatusmentis | I want it |
| 18:38.45 | aju | sue him/her |
| 18:38.55 | summatusmentis | psh |
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| 18:39.40 | ArthurLiu | lh? |
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| 18:40.23 | lh | ArthurLiu: what's up? |
| 18:40.34 | ArthurLiu | great here |
| 18:40.48 | ArthurLiu | regarding debconf9 |
| 18:41.23 | ArthurLiu | pm or ? |
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| 18:45.43 | Wolf_OSGeo | Arc: that's rude of him. Just set him straight. Tell him he has done nothing, and that HE has in fact forced you to drop him since he is just wasting everyones time and effort |
| 18:46.01 | ScottMac | lh: did you make any progress on our thing? |
| 18:46.23 | Arc | Wolf_OSGeo: yea I'm also the org admin for PSF, so working with the other mentors takes priority right now. |
| 18:46.32 | ArthurLiu | lh, oh, forgot that we're 30 mins away from midterm, will talk after the rush then |
| 18:46.49 | kblin | ArthurLiu: read the topic :) |
| 18:47.03 | ArthurLiu | oh |
| 18:47.33 | ArthurLiu | well, we phone bombed our missing mentors into filling their reviews this morning |
| 18:47.38 | lh | ScottMac: oh sorry forgot to email you. no additional data uncovered. did you get a doctors note perchance? |
| 18:47.38 | ArthurLiu | so debian is all clear :) |
| 18:47.43 | lh | ArthurLiu: what's up dear? |
| 18:47.57 | ScottMac | lh: not yet, but derick says he's been doing better |
| 18:48.11 | ScottMac | and we're leaning towards just passing him for now rather than risk anything |
| 18:48.17 | ArthurLiu | can I haz ospo swag for debconf gsoc talk ? |
| 18:48.17 | ScottMac | If you think thats ok for this one case :) |
| 18:48.22 | lh | ScottMac: ok your call |
| 18:48.37 | lh | ArthurLiu: yes, email back and say that is what you need, add ellen ko to cc, tell ellen i said she should send gsoc stickers |
| 18:48.52 | kai | anothy_x: I didn't see you getting a reply yet, so let me take that one. I'd set your mid-term result to "fail" |
| 18:48.57 | ArthurLiu | ok cool |
| 18:49.01 | kai | anothy_x: if you did that, all should be fine |
| 18:49.31 | anothy_x | kai: thanks. |
| 18:50.17 | kai | anothy_x: my pleasure :) |
| 18:51.00 | kai | ArthurLiu: make sure you get some of the "my other computer is a datacenter" stickers |
| 18:51.10 | kai | ArthurLiu: they look cool on netbooks |
| 18:51.15 | ArthurLiu | hehe |
| 18:51.23 | ArthurLiu | I'd like some too |
| 18:51.32 | Catfish_Man | my other computer is skynet |
| 18:51.32 | lh | ArthurLiu: mention this in the email too |
| 18:51.50 | ArthurLiu | my work laptop is stickerless so far, except for my name :) |
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| 18:53.16 | ArthurLiu | lh, koe=the right ellen ko? |
| 18:54.02 | lh | ArthurLiu: correct. be very nice to her, send chocolates. |
| 18:54.24 | ArthurLiu | sure |
| 18:54.27 | aju | kai: i got that one on my notebook! http://twitpic.com/a4h6g |
| 18:54.30 | lh | w0oot! |
| 18:54.46 | mmadia | lh : one of my students, Johannes for Haiku, has been missing since attending RMLL last week and has yet to complete his survey. |
| 18:54.46 | NicDumZ | hey, ArthurLiu 's around :) |
| 18:54.56 | ArthurLiu | NicDumZ, hey |
| 18:55.07 | aju | hey, NicDumZ 's around! :) |
| 18:55.12 | aghisla | aju: HAHA wonderful stickers |
| 18:55.17 | ArthurLiu | aju, is that a glaptop ? |
| 18:55.18 | aghisla | :D :D |
| 18:55.24 | NicDumZ | hey aju :) |
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| 18:55.37 | mmadia | lh: earlier this morning, i sent an email to Ellen Ko, mentioning that we've attempted email, cellphone, sms, and irc to no avail. |
| 18:55.49 | lh | mmadia: RMLL? |
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| 18:56.01 | lh | mmadia: as long as mentor completes survey on the student we should be OK fo rnow |
| 18:56.06 | kai | aju: mine's only got a gsoc 2007 sticker and the obligatory samba team sticker |
| 18:56.07 | ArthurLiu | lh, a french free software conference |
| 18:56.09 | aju | ArthurLiu: not yet, but when I stick on the GsoC 2009 ones, i am sure it wud look like one :) |
| 18:56.13 | mmadia | lh: http://2009.rmll.info/?lang=en a computer trade show in France |
| 18:56.26 | lh | mmadia: ok lovely, thank you. |
| 18:57.17 | AlexanderPico_Ge | unfortunately, we are failing a student now at mid-term. They know it and aren't planning on submitting a student survey. The mentor has submitted one with 'fail'. Should I formally report this drop so that the missing survey is accounted for? Or will this all settle itself after the 'fail' is received? |
| 18:57.20 | mmadia | thank you lh. The student even gave a small speech relating to his GSoC project at the conference :) |
| 18:57.40 | lh | mmadia: that's awesome. |
| 18:57.47 | kblin | AlexanderPico_Ge: that'll settle itself |
| 18:57.53 | lh | AlexanderPico_Ge: it will settle itself |
| 18:57.57 | lh | kblin: thank you my friend. :) |
| 18:58.04 | AlexanderPico_Ge | thanks! |
| 18:58.07 | kblin | lh: np |
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| 19:03.00 | NicDumZ | I like how the "gender dynamics" thread started :) |
| 19:03.14 | NicDumZ | didnt we have such kind of talks on the mailing last year too? |
| 19:03.16 | trasz | guys, i've just activated my card (i.e. i've set the PIN) and it seems there is exactly 0$ on it. how come? |
| 19:03.41 | trasz | shouldn't there be 500$? |
| 19:03.58 | aju | NicDumZ: yes :) |
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| 19:05.53 | NicDumZ | then it means that we need to consider the topic twice |
| 19:06.37 | NicDumZ | "but I _do_ tell you, she *is* cute" ;) |
| 19:07.42 | aghisla | my 2 cents.. it's always same words.. but things change slowly |
| 19:08.52 | aju | i am cute as well |
| 19:09.03 | NicDumZ | that what I was about to say |
| 19:09.05 | NicDumZ | erm well |
| 19:09.15 | NicDumZ | maybe not *you* particularly sorry :p |
| 19:09.16 | aju | =)) |
| 19:09.43 | NicDumZ | we all get influenced by aspects of other's personality |
| 19:09.50 | NicDumZ | "he is awesome" |
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| 19:10.01 | NicDumZ | "does a lot of sports besides OSS" |
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| 19:10.39 | NicDumZ | gender is an obvious bias, agreed, easier to see. |
| 19:10.50 | ei-grad | hi all |
| 19:11.00 | tjkopena | hi all, I am an admin on one of the gsoc programs. Is there a way for me to tell which of my mentors or students have submitted their surveys? Other than the nag emails that went out over the weekend, I have not been able to find a list in my account and could not determine a definitive answer to this after looking through the mailing list. thx |
| 19:11.20 | aju | tjkopena: there is an update on topic do /topic to read |
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| 19:12.04 | Nightrose | hands Lennie some cookies |
| 19:12.15 | Lennie | thanks Nightrose |
| 19:12.26 | Ivanovic | hands lennie a tasty and refreshing beer |
| 19:12.27 | Nightrose | Lennie: can you let us know when nagmails have been processed? |
| 19:12.38 | Nightrose | Lennie: so we know if we are clear if we don't get any |
| 19:13.32 | Lennie | yosh |
| 19:13.36 | Lennie | I shall take a look right now |
| 19:13.42 | Nightrose | thx :) |
| 19:13.44 | Lennie | and then do the dishes since your cookies made a mess |
| 19:13.51 | Nightrose | haha |
| 19:14.04 | Lennie | mails are done |
| 19:14.10 | Nightrose | weeeeee |
| 19:14.13 | Lennie | if you didn't get one you should be safe |
| 19:14.16 | Nightrose | we are good then |
| 19:14.17 | Nightrose | \o/ |
| 19:14.20 | Lennie | if the Task API didn't fail :P |
| 19:14.23 | Nightrose | hehe |
| 19:15.03 | anothy_x | i got one mail, for our failing, dropped-out student (and none others). so they (or at least some subset) went out. |
| 19:15.43 | lh | wanders off to doctor's office |
| 19:16.02 | Lennie | lh not another bee sting/ |
| 19:16.22 | Lennie | anyhow, dishes to be done be back soonish |
| 19:16.29 | schumaml | arrr... one of my mentors is playing dead |
| 19:16.50 | tjkopena | thx aju; It seems that other than the emails there is no such mechanism. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! thx |
| 19:17.16 | aju | tjkopena: not yet, Lennie|brb might be able to give you more details if any |
| 19:17.31 | aju | he likes splash of cold water |
| 19:17.38 | tjkopena | cool; thx aju |
| 19:17.41 | aju | puts cold water on Lennie|brb |
| 19:17.42 | aju | :P |
| 19:18.03 | trasz | guys, i've just activated my card (i.e. i've set the PIN) and it seems there is exactly 0$ on it. shouldn't there be the initial 500$? |
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| 19:18.22 | kblin | hey Lennie, Pawel |
| 19:18.40 | kblin | thanks for the nag mails |
| 19:18.55 | kblin | trasz: try asking on the student's ml? |
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| 19:19.27 | aghisla | trasz: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentinfo#Payments_6301839584339611 |
| 19:22.19 | trasz | aghisla: ah! of course, i was late with my proof of enrollment. |
| 19:22.24 | trasz | aghisla: thanks! :-) |
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| 19:23.44 | dorileo | hi lh, are we going to be notified about mentor`s "survey results"? |
| 19:23.48 | kblin | yay, looks like I'm all good as well :) |
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| 19:24.48 | aju | Lennie|brb: students get to know? apart from mentors telling them Pass/Fail? |
| 19:25.15 | aghisla | trasz: any time ;) |
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| 19:27.51 | kai | aju: I guess so |
| 19:29.15 | Nightrose | high5s kblin |
| 19:29.38 | Lennie|brb | aju: the only thing I can tell is at a certain moment some student projects will dissapear from the organization list :) |
| 19:29.54 | Lennie | and I guess a post will be made about it :) |
| 19:32.24 | kai | Lennie: kudos, it was less painful than I feared when the status info wasn't ready :) |
| 19:32.50 | Lennie | remind me :D? |
| 19:32.57 | Lennie | I don't follow you |
| 19:33.06 | schumaml | one of my mentors is playing dead. I'd like to make sure that the student will pass the survey, though - both because students should not suffer from mentor's faults and because other mentors agree that he is progressing nicely. |
| 19:33.11 | schumaml | what do I do? |
| 19:34.01 | aju | Lennie: i know that :P |
| 19:34.14 | aju | i was talking if we are sent any mails or anything :P |
| 19:34.29 | dhaun | schumaml: make someone else the student's mentor temporarily and let them fill out the survey? |
| 19:34.40 | kblin | schumaml: what dhaun said |
| 19:34.55 | kblin | you can change that setting int he "manage student projects" menu |
| 19:35.08 | Lennie | aju: no plans for that, however we might decide to add that later on :D |
| 19:35.28 | Lennie | rough ride, lots of other stuff that had to be done :( |
| 19:36.18 | Lennie | and that's just the truth D |
| 19:36.38 | aju | no worries :P |
| 19:37.33 | schumaml | hrmf... and I still can't assign an org admin there |
| 19:37.47 | kblin | no, but you can make yourself a mentor I guess |
| 19:37.51 | schumaml | (yes, yes, I know, make myself a mentor, ...) |
| 19:37.52 | Lennie | that's because an org admin should not be a mentor |
| 19:37.57 | Lennie | seperation of responsibilities |
| 19:38.16 | Lennie | however we are working on giving org admins the power to fill in the final evaluation for their mentors ;) |
| 19:38.26 | kblin | yay |
| 19:38.27 | Lennie | without these tricks :D |
| 19:38.54 | kblin | which reminds me, I wanted to update my list of phone numbers |
| 19:38.57 | Lennie | it's the biggest thing next to being able to read answers from your students/mentors :) |
| 19:38.59 | schumaml | any penalty if I just enter "The original mentor did not complete the survey, blame him for missing info" in all of the fields? :) |
| 19:39.51 | schumaml | Lennie: was this policy documented in advance? |
| 19:40.02 | schumaml | admins not being mentors, that is |
| 19:40.21 | Chainsaw | schumaml: It depends on the size of the project as well I suppose. |
| 19:40.29 | Lennie | hmm |
| 19:41.04 | Lennie | should be documented somewhere when assiging mentors to projects |
| 19:41.10 | Lennie | proposals that is |
| 19:41.18 | kblin | schumaml: I think it's more a "separation of responsibility" thing on the melange side |
| 19:41.28 | Lennie | that's also true |
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| 19:41.41 | schumaml | comments like "I don't think that this ($feature present in previous soc webapps) was ever possible" aren't that reassuring, at least |
| 19:41.49 | Lennie | I feel it's also our view to keep resposibilities seperated and have one mentor responsible for the survey |
| 19:42.09 | Lennie | however as it turns out org admins want more power ^^ |
| 19:42.15 | Lennie | or atleast more overview |
| 19:42.17 | kblin | well, duh |
| 19:42.19 | schumaml | I think this comment was from Pawel about admins being able to stand in for mentors |
| 19:42.41 | kblin | Lennie: it's our job to make the mentors fill out the surveys |
| 19:42.56 | kblin | Lennie: being able to tell who still needs kicking is essential for that part |
| 19:43.03 | Lennie | kblin: true :) |
| 19:43.21 | Lennie | probably gonna be more then nag mails during final :) |
| 19:44.00 | Lennie | schumaml: do they need to stand-in anywhere else then for evaluations? |
| 19:44.34 | schumaml | I don't know. I did need this in 2006 and 2008 |
| 19:45.56 | *** topic/#gsoc by Lennie -> Evaluations Now Due at 23:00 UTC 13 July 2009 - More Nag mails for missing surveys have been sent - Midterm evaluations are in progress. - Instructions for Mentors/Org Admins: http://tinyurl.com/mentormidevals - Instructions for Students: http://tinyurl.com/studentmidevals - This channel is logged (!logs) |
| 19:46.17 | Lennie | it seems to be the only time a stand in is really needed |
| 19:46.27 | Lennie | for mentoring a project you should really require a mentor profile :) |
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| 19:51.54 | kblin | hail webchick |
| 19:52.37 | schumaml | omg |
| 19:52.59 | schumaml | notices the "he" "she" blanacing in the sruvey |
| 19:53.33 | schumaml | -a |
| 19:55.22 | aghisla | reads the survey again |
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| 19:58.51 | Landon | schumaml: what, no schlee? |
| 19:59.00 | Lennie | :D |
| 20:01.57 | schumaml | in Germany, I've seen uses of English words to get around this problem in some texts |
| 20:02.19 | schumaml | e.g. "Guide" instead of the german "Leiter/Leiterin" |
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| 20:05.11 | marius_ | hi guyz, I wanted to know how can we find out about the results of the midterm (if we passed) ? |
| 20:06.51 | aghisla | except waiting, nothing else right now :) if you're in good terms with both mentor and code, you likely pass |
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| 20:07.10 | Wolf_OSGeo | marius_: ask your mentor |
| 20:07.22 | Wolf_OSGeo | if he passed you he will probably say so |
| 20:07.28 | kblin | schumaml: Not LeiterIn? :) |
| 20:07.30 | Lennie | ask your mentors |
| 20:07.41 | Lennie | don't expect the website to reflect the changes for atleast another 24h :) |
| 20:08.14 | gaurav_hiiii | !logs |
| 20:08.14 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 20:08.15 | kblin | Wolf_OSGeo: actually, I'd reply in any case |
| 20:08.40 | Wolf_OSGeo | kblin: right, me too |
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| 20:09.01 | Wolf_OSGeo | but otoh if you have to ask you might be a border case and probably know it |
| 20:09.23 | schumaml | kblin: some people finally seem to realize that using the most phallic letter to indicate the female variant of a term can do more harm than good |
| 20:10.24 | kblin | true |
| 20:10.29 | schumaml | in this case it was mostly due to the fact that "Guide" was to be used on shirts, too |
| 20:10.49 | kblin | Wolf_OSGeo: but students can be very anxious sometimes |
| 20:11.30 | schumaml | and the printer did require a minimum run for each design |
| 20:11.34 | Wolf_OSGeo | kblin: yes. I quieted my student's worries by telling him last week that I had passed him :) |
| 20:12.06 | Wolf_OSGeo | Lennie: is there a plan to add an overview view of surveys for org admins or should I submit a wish request? |
| 20:12.11 | kblin | schumaml: seems reasonable.. then again, depending on how much humor your male guides have, you could just print the female version on all the shirts |
| 20:12.51 | Lennie | Wolf_OSGeo: there is a plan, however I believe it is not mentioned on our issue tracker yet. Feel free to add it so others can star it :). |
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| 20:13.10 | schumaml | if I had had to decide this, it would have become "Leit" |
| 20:13.24 | Wolf_OSGeo | goes to dig out the socghop bug url... |
| 20:13.32 | kblin | !bugs |
| 20:13.32 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 20:13.40 | Lennie | :D |
| 20:14.06 | kblin | schumaml: "Leitmensch" |
| 20:14.15 | aghisla | :D |
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| 20:14.32 | kblin | but just "Leit" is good as well |
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| 20:14.43 | Wolf_OSGeo | kblin: thanks. I also found one on the socghop site :D |
| 20:15.13 | kblin | Wolf_OSGeo: yeah, I'm just trying to get that command into the collective memory of the channel :) |
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| 20:15.41 | Wolf_OSGeo | that is an honorable task :D |
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| 20:16.36 | Wolf_OSGeo | Lennie: there is one for this already: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=659 |
| 20:19.11 | Lennie | Wolf_OSGeo: issue is already there ^_^, too much going on ftw ;D |
| 20:19.24 | Lennie | 9 stars already which is nice |
| 20:19.37 | Wolf_OSGeo | cool. I added one too. |
| 20:19.50 | Lennie | yes I just noticed your comment :0 |
| 20:19.51 | Wolf_OSGeo | very important for me who is an admin for an umbrella org |
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| 20:21.28 | Lennie | yes |
| 20:21.34 | Lennie | you'll probably get a per org page for it |
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| 20:38.14 | D3f0 | is away: Ausente por ahora |
| 20:38.47 | kblin | grumbles |
| 20:38.54 | aju | D3f0: thank you for letting know. |
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| 20:39.21 | Wolf_OSGeo | Lennie: thanks. You guys rock! |
| 20:39.35 | aghisla | haha |
| 20:39.49 | aghisla | 'night people |
| 20:39.51 | kblin | D3f0: I've asked you before to turn off the public autoaway, please do so and ping me (or any other op) when you did |
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| 20:51.05 | schumaml | hm |
| 20:51.46 | schumaml | do the surveys retain the information about who did complete them? |
| 20:52.37 | schumaml | epsecially in the "admin makes himself mentor to pass the student, then switches back to original mentor" case |
| 20:52.50 | schumaml | especially |
| 20:53.03 | kblin | Lennie: ^^^ |
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| 21:02.34 | r0bby | is there a question the mentor survey to fail/pass the student? |
| 21:02.47 | r0bby | just curious on the wording of that :X |
| 21:03.12 | aju | yes |
| 21:03.16 | aju | the last question :D |
| 21:03.19 | aju | is always that asks |
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| 21:03.27 | aju | Do you want to Pass/Fail :) |
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| 21:05.40 | Wolf_OSGeo | lh: may I pm you? |
| 21:06.33 | schumaml | Lennie: or, more gerneral, is there any change tracking at all? |
| 21:07.02 | Lennie | schumaml: change tracking for? |
| 21:07.14 | schumaml | surveys |
| 21:08.57 | Lennie | nope none |
| 21:10.06 | schumaml | but there#s a way to tell that an admin did mess with the survey? |
| 21:10.56 | schumaml | or at least someone other than the currently assigned mentor? |
| 21:12.19 | Lennie | yes |
| 21:12.28 | Lennie | we know who last submitted the survey |
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| 21:17.25 | monsieurp | !next |
| 21:17.26 | socinfo | "next" is July 13: Deadline for mid-term evaluations. |
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| 22:36.50 | z4chh | !timeline |
| 22:36.50 | socinfo | "timeline" is (#1) http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline, or (#2) if you prefer a pretty visual timeline see http://is.gd/141Tu |
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| 22:38.22 | mdiggory | lh as project admin, if I take over the mentors position on a project can I then change the state of the students review? |
| 22:39.41 | aju | mdiggory: shes out ask in #melange for quick response |
| 22:40.12 | mdiggory | thanks |
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| 23:21.37 | harlan | I see the midterm eval pages are inactive now... |
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| 23:28.40 | pygi | hi folks |
| 23:28.42 | pygi | how are you doing |
| 23:28.47 | araujo | hi there |
| 23:28.53 | araujo | fine , though a bit tired here |
| 23:28.54 | araujo | you? |
| 23:29.02 | darreng_ | yes, and I just pressed submit and got the same 'inactive' warning... |
| 23:29.36 | araujo | mmm.. I can't see the link for it anymore |
| 23:29.39 | araujo | normal? |
| 23:29.52 | pygi | very good |
| 23:29.56 | pygi | just a bit tired as well :D |
| 23:30.04 | pygi | hacking hacking hacking :D |
| 23:30.45 | pygi | and how's gsoc? :) |
| 23:31.02 | araujo | coding! |
| 23:31.06 | araujo | and testing |
| 23:31.10 | araujo | testing! |
| 23:31.12 | araujo | and coding |
| 23:31.14 | araujo | :D |
| 23:32.12 | pygi | :D |
| 23:32.14 | pygi | so that means you passed? |
| 23:32.18 | pygi | who do you work for? |
| 23:32.19 | pygi | and on what? |
| 23:33.06 | araujo | yeah... think so :) |
| 23:33.14 | araujo | pygi, osuosl , unify project |
| 23:33.17 | araujo | and you? |
| 23:33.28 | pygi | psf |
| 23:33.30 | pygi | roundup project |
| 23:35.30 | pygi | its fun :D |
| 23:35.40 | pygi | my 4th gsoc |
| 23:35.41 | pygi | yours? |
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