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| 00:01.30 | cooki | but like ojwb said, be honest with urself |
| 00:01.37 | cooki | as well as with the org |
| 00:02.32 | ojwb | is reminded of: http://xkcd.com/320/ |
| 00:02.57 | ojwb | perhaps seems like a good idea, but see the tooltip |
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| 00:05.34 | Emmanuel | ojwb: cool, I'll probably put this link in my application |
| 00:06.36 | ojwb | "week 11: by now I should be stark raving mad. luckily the major coding work should be complete" |
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| 00:13.39 | cooki | ojwb have u worked on previous gsoc |
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| 00:14.45 | ojwb | yes, as a mentor |
| 00:16.30 | cooki | ah, off the top of your head....any advice for students? |
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| 00:16.51 | mattn | Hi all |
| 00:16.53 | ojwb | read the advice for students page! |
| 00:17.05 | Catfish_Man | hi mattn |
| 00:17.20 | cooki | lol i meant anything different to whats online |
| 00:17.39 | mattn | I have a question, doesn't every student in the world have examens in the gsoc period? |
| 00:17.47 | mattn | exams* |
| 00:18.44 | cooki | when is ur last exam? |
| 00:18.53 | mattn | 18th of june |
| 00:19.37 | mattn | that's like right in the middle of the program ... |
| 00:20.11 | cooki | i think it does vary, my last exam is 9th of May but i only have 2 exams which I have already started revising for |
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| 00:21.11 | mattn | 9th of May :o that extremely early, and after exams the year stops? And when does it begin again then? |
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| 00:21.20 | mattn | that's* |
| 00:21.23 | Beket | Hi people. Why does the web interface forget text alignment after the changes are saved ? |
| 00:21.25 | cooki | october! |
| 00:21.38 | mattn | october |
| 00:21.39 | mattn | omg |
| 00:21.50 | mattn | I like your school :p |
| 00:22.00 | mattn | From which country are you? |
| 00:22.08 | cooki | United Kingdom |
| 00:22.31 | cooki | but i know people who finish towards end of May and into early June |
| 00:22.50 | mattn | I'm from Belgium, looks like that litte water changes alot :p |
| 00:22.59 | mattn | ok |
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| 00:24.00 | mib_4r127trn | porn http://www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=89015 |
| 00:24.06 | mattn | I talked to the people at openSuse and I'm as good as rejected because of those exams |
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| 00:24.32 | Emmanuel | mattn: arg :/ |
| 00:24.51 | mib_4r127trn | phone apple http://www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=89015 |
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| 00:25.25 | cooki | i've not taken part in the past but i take it the early part on the program is important from what i've read |
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| 00:26.06 | mattn | yeah I'm also having that impression |
| 00:26.13 | mattn | guess I'm screwed then :p |
| 00:26.26 | mattn | What are you applying for? |
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| 00:27.56 | summatusmentis | if you can convince your org you can get your stuff done, I think you have a good chance still |
| 00:28.07 | summatusmentis | it's obviously dependent on the org, etc. |
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| 00:29.12 | mattn | ok I'll keep trying |
| 00:29.18 | mattn | But I'm getting some sleep now |
| 00:29.24 | mattn | it's 2 o'clock over here |
| 00:29.34 | mattn | bye all! |
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| 00:30.53 | ojwb | some people start coding early (in the community bonding period), take a break for exams, and pick up after |
| 00:31.06 | ojwb | though obviously it deepends when exams and coursework are |
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| 00:50.06 | Phrozn | its currently earth hour by the way! for another 40 minutes too |
| 00:50.22 | ojwb | not for most people... |
| 00:50.46 | Phrozn | ah i never realized it was different in different places |
| 00:51.06 | ojwb | well, different timezones... |
| 00:51.37 | ojwb | it was about 13 hours ago here |
| 00:53.22 | r0bby | I have lights on! |
| 00:58.59 | imbusy | more power for those that don't care then :)) |
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| 01:08.05 | r0bby | Hope you're all observing earth hour |
| 01:09.37 | ojwb | hopes ~1/24th of you are |
| 01:09.48 | r0bby | is |
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| 01:25.48 | allisterb | turns up the a/c all the way |
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| 01:58.53 | r0bby | allisterb: OH MY GOD! |
| 01:58.56 | r0bby | environment killer |
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| 02:14.46 | disismt | !timelie |
| 02:14.47 | socinfo | Error: "timelie" is not a valid command. |
| 02:14.53 | disismt | !timeline |
| 02:14.53 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 02:30.48 | r0bby | huh |
| 02:30.56 | r0bby | you can't withdraw an application... |
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| 02:31.16 | anirudh | wassup yo! |
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| 02:31.58 | koryk | =-O |
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| 02:34.07 | ojwb | r0bby: you can right after submitting it, but not later it seems |
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| 02:35.44 | anirudh | is the deadline gonna shift like previous year ? |
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| 02:35.48 | anirudh | any chances ? |
| 02:38.04 | ojwb | very unlikely |
| 02:39.32 | scorche | dont plan on it... |
| 02:41.13 | anirudh | have there been any discussions about it ? |
| 02:41.42 | scorche | no |
| 02:45.15 | r0bby | has his heart set on getting this one project :D |
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| 02:52.48 | ojwb | the reason it was extended last year was that there was an extra week for students to talk to mentors before submissions opened, then only a week for submissions |
| 02:52.56 | ojwb | this year it's more like 2 weeks for submissions |
| 02:53.04 | ojwb | and I think also the extra week |
| 02:53.14 | ojwb | so the reason why it was extended last year doesn't exist this tear |
| 02:53.15 | ojwb | year |
| 02:53.39 | ojwb | so it's virtually certain you'll be disappointed if you're relying on it |
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| 03:08.40 | landon | BarryCarlyon: wow, you sure have the full crew in here :P |
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| 03:17.25 | r0bby | Sould I be embarassed that i'm listening to tina turner? |
| 03:17.28 | r0bby | should* |
| 03:17.40 | r0bby | or more so that I just admitted on a publically logged channel? |
| 03:20.06 | dec142 | the latter |
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| 03:20.19 | dec142 | :) |
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| 03:25.56 | allisterb | tina turner > britney spears and just about every female pop vocalist out there today |
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| 03:26.30 | UWR_Player_ | hi |
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| 03:28.13 | landon | allisterb: is #hack down? |
| 03:28.31 | allisterb | not 4 me |
| 03:28.43 | landon | dang |
| 03:28.44 | landon | my vps is down |
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| 03:28.48 | landon | so is grokthis.net |
| 03:29.09 | HongliangLv | hello |
| 03:29.20 | allisterb | maintenace seems to be degrading the situation |
| 03:29.37 | allisterb | hello HongliangLv |
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| 03:42.38 | allisterb | HongliangLv, you're welcome to hang out in #gsoc too just for the company. |
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| 03:43.03 | pcmattman | hi everyone :) |
| 03:43.23 | bluegene_ | hi |
| 03:44.08 | HongliangLv | ok.thanks |
| 03:45.03 | allisterb | hi pcmattman bluegene_ |
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| 04:42.42 | allisterb | Catfish mon |
| 04:42.50 | landon | hey moooooon |
| 04:42.53 | Catfish_Man | sup |
| 04:43.21 | landon | I, for one, am starting drafting my (first) application |
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| 05:03.02 | subzero | hi there |
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| 05:27.28 | subzero | hey, how difficult is to get mentored by google? |
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| 05:27.46 | Catfish_Man | difficult. I believe they accepted less than 10 students last year |
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| 05:29.42 | pcmattman | is it possible to see previous years intake for each mentor? or is that private information? |
| 05:29.53 | Catfish_Man | each mentoring organization you mean? |
| 05:30.18 | pcmattman | yes |
| 05:30.31 | pcmattman | i guess it'd depend on the organization? |
| 05:30.54 | Catfish_Man | I bet that's available somewhere |
| 05:30.57 | Catfish_Man | not sure where it would be though |
| 05:30.59 | subzero | see this: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/google/about.html |
| 05:31.10 | ankitg | pcmattman: it's all online ... GSoC 08 used a different system (not Melange) |
| 05:31.19 | subzero | I mean "google" |
| 05:31.47 | r0bby | OH MY GOD |
| 05:31.49 | r0bby | ankitg !!!!!11111 |
| 05:32.08 | r0bby | quickly constructs a few bridges |
| 05:32.09 | ankitg | r0bby: =) .... |
| 05:32.26 | ankitg | straps on a couple of parachutes ... |
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| 05:41.08 | allisterb | Microsoft is now selling SUSE Linux into places it has never been before; in fact, Microsoft is now Novell's biggest single sales channel |
| 05:41.18 | allisterb | wot |
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| 05:57.29 | the9a3eedi | O |
| 05:57.37 | ajuonline | P |
| 05:58.22 | the9a3eedi | I've asked this before, but I'm going to ask again because I can't remember the answer. When selecting your "location" when registering as a student, is it for the nationality? or the country you're currently residing in? or perhaps.. the country you're "representing"? |
| 05:58.53 | subzero | someone here has been mentored by google (as the org)? |
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| 05:59.25 | geek745 | my location is displayed as "United States" even though I have specified much more than that. looks like a general blurb to attach to your profile. |
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| 06:08.03 | the9a3eedi | guess it's just the country you're residing in, oh well |
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| 06:11.14 | rwcr | Hi. If I apply to two projects, and am accepted by both, will I be able to choose between them? |
| 06:11.25 | ojwb | Catfish_Man: it's 3 or 4 a year for the "google" org |
| 06:11.34 | Catfish_Man | ojwb: k |
| 06:11.47 | ojwb | though oddly the FAQ says "less than 20 a year" |
| 06:11.58 | landon | rwcr: yes |
| 06:12.34 | rwcr | All right, good to know. |
| 06:13.15 | ojwb | actually, that's not necessarily true |
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| 06:13.31 | rwcr | Under what circumstances wouldn't it be? |
| 06:13.53 | ojwb | for example, if it would leave your second choice org with no students |
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| 06:14.07 | ojwb | or if nobody gets around to asking you before the big irc meeting |
| 06:14.24 | ojwb | so if you have a preference, make it clear without being prompted |
| 06:14.38 | ojwb | and don't apply for projects you wouldn't be happy doing! |
| 06:14.50 | scorche | rwcr: generally, the other orgs will discuss the issue with you and come to a decison before duplicate resolution meeting...if you cant be contacted before then, then the orgs will fight it out in a cage match |
| 06:14.51 | landon | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.57 | scorche | that said, who else are you applying to? ;) |
| 06:15.06 | rwcr | I'm applying to Rockbox and Etherboot. |
| 06:15.57 | rwcr | I've previously done work very similar to Rockbox, so I feel like my chances of being accepted are better there, but I particularly like my idea for Etherboot. |
| 06:16.12 | ojwb | it might also be that the first choice org has other good applicants for your project and the second choice has no others |
| 06:16.12 | scorche | gets ready to battle mdc |
| 06:16.27 | ojwb | you can talk to the etherboot people and perhaps get an idea for how good your chances are |
| 06:16.53 | ojwb | that's interesting |
| 06:17.06 | ojwb | the FAQ used to say "we've accepted less than 20 "alternate" proposals historically" |
| 06:17.08 | anothy_x | etherboot!=coreboot? |
| 06:17.18 | ojwb | not it says "we've accepted less than 20 "alternate" proposals per year historically" |
| 06:18.03 | ojwb | I mean "now it says" |
| 06:18.57 | rwcr | anothy_x: Yeah, they're quite different. The Etherboot project develops a low-level netbooter called gPXE (the legacy version was Etherboot, hence the name). |
| 06:19.00 | mdc_mobile | scorche: :) |
| 06:19.19 | scorche | =) |
| 06:19.38 | rwcr | should have realized this channel would be populated by the mentors in question... ah well, guess it isn't exactly a secret. :-) |
| 06:19.57 | mdc_mobile | anothy_x: Etherboot Project does network boot firmware |
| 06:20.23 | mdc_mobile | Coreboot does BIOS replacement firmware |
| 06:20.38 | scorche | rwcr: well, it isnt like it affects your chances of being accepted by either org (or should at least) |
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| 06:21.02 | anothy_x | got it, thanks. i'm familiar with coreboot, but hadn't heard about etherboot. |
| 06:21.16 | mdc_mobile | http://etherboot.org/ |
| 06:21.32 | anothy_x | yup, already reading. |
| 06:21.43 | mdc_mobile | there's also #etherboot if you have questions :) |
| 06:22.55 | the9a3eedi | sighs |
| 06:23.07 | the9a3eedi | I feel discouraged. Something tells me I wont make it this GSoC :( |
| 06:23.55 | the9a3eedi | is emo, and is crawling in his skin |
| 06:24.11 | scorche | cheer up emo kid |
| 06:24.17 | the9a3eedi | cheers up |
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| 06:24.48 | the9a3eedi | I WILL BE THE SUPREME LORD OF THE OSS WORLD. EVERYONE, INCLUJDING RMS, WILL BOW DOWN TO ME |
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| 06:25.09 | scorche | discourages the9a3eedi from that |
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| 06:25.16 | Catfish_Man | resolved: wontfix |
| 06:25.20 | rwcr | scorche: I think I'm realizing that I overdosed somewhat on media player development when I was an iPodLinux programmer. I'm having visions of throwing my iPod against a wall halfway through the summer from frustration. :-) |
| 06:26.01 | scorche | rwcr: well, from what it sounds like, you were doing higher level stuff then |
| 06:26.43 | the9a3eedi | but yeah, the fact that I can't seem to get enough time to check out differnt projects (due to a big load of university assignments/deadlines all due the day right before the last day of GSoC applications) .. and the fact that there would be a lot of competition between students for GSoC.. discouraging dont you think? |
| 06:27.10 | rwcr | I was. There was one period of *weeks*, though, where my shiny new dynamic module loader was failing in the most mysterious ways, until I finally realized I'd used the wrong ld options. |
| 06:27.13 | the9a3eedi | but nah, I'll make time. I'll just have to finish all my assignments as soon as possible. |
| 06:27.16 | scorche | there isnt really competition...there are just other students submitting apps ;) |
| 06:27.18 | rwcr | That easily takes the cake for "worst bug ever". |
| 06:27.30 | the9a3eedi | scorche: hmm? |
| 06:27.43 | the9a3eedi | scorche, what do you mean by that? |
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| 06:28.16 | scorche | rwcr: eh...we have all done that from time to time...luckily with GSoC, you have dedicated mentors that will hopefully review your work ;) |
| 06:28.38 | scorche | the9a3eedi: there isnt competition...you just send in the best app you can and the org thinks about taking you |
| 06:28.38 | Catfish_Man | rwcr: I dunno... I found a flash bug that will lock up every app that loads flash, until you reboot the computer :) |
| 06:29.05 | rwcr | Catfish_Man: Worst bug in my own code, then. |
| 06:29.06 | rwcr | scorche: True. :-) |
| 06:29.18 | Catfish_Man | fair. Conveniently, this bug was triggered by my app throwing an exception :( |
| 06:29.24 | Catfish_Man | so... I had to just not do that |
| 06:29.28 | the9a3eedi | scorche, by best app, you mean best proposal? or best demonstration of your skills (through your own projects or bugfixes or otherwise) |
| 06:29.48 | ojwb | bear in mind we get a lot of ropey applications |
| 06:30.04 | the9a3eedi | ojwb, define "ropey" :P |
| 06:30.05 | ojwb | so if you can write a good application, your chances are a lot better than 1 in 3. |
| 06:30.15 | scorche | the9a3eedi: combination...i mean there isnt any direct competition between students |
| 06:30.17 | ojwb | wouldn't accept even if google paid me! |
| 06:30.41 | the9a3eedi | ojwb, I see. |
| 06:31.03 | the9a3eedi | well, that sort of cheers me up. Though I'd have to work on something to prove my skills :P |
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| 06:31.15 | the9a3eedi | and I would need to make myself some time for that |
| 06:31.28 | the9a3eedi | which will be hard, but not impossible, I hope |
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| 06:31.53 | ojwb | so far we've 3 of which one stands no chance without further work |
| 06:32.04 | ojwb | and I suspect average quality is higher for early applications |
| 06:32.16 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. I wonder what happens if a mentor chooses a student, but the student applied for other projects, and he decides to join another project instead. The mentor chooses another student right? |
| 06:32.38 | ojwb | if you're accepted by two projects? |
| 06:32.44 | the9a3eedi | ojwb, yeah |
| 06:32.52 | Catfish_Man | the9a3eedi: the proposals are in a big list, and the Line of Doom appears when the number of slots per organization is chosen |
| 06:32.55 | ojwb | it all gets sorted out in an insane IRC meeting with reps from all orgs |
| 06:33.00 | Catfish_Man | below the line == not accepted |
| 06:33.19 | ojwb | so you end up with one org, which may or may not be your preference |
| 06:33.27 | ojwb | and the "losing" org get the next student down |
| 06:33.30 | ojwb | or passes on the place |
| 06:33.34 | the9a3eedi | ojwb, sounds good. |
| 06:33.53 | ojwb | anyway, dinner time for me |
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| 06:34.18 | the9a3eedi | TOAST SPAGHETTI FOR DINNER |
| 06:34.44 | the9a3eedi | Catfish_Man, are you referring to the "List of my Student Proposals" on the GSoC website? |
| 06:34.45 | ojwb | isn't a student! |
| 06:34.57 | ojwb | no, he means the orgs list |
| 06:35.07 | ojwb | of ranked proposals |
| 06:35.08 | the9a3eedi | ojwb, oh. |
| 06:35.23 | Catfish_Man | at least that's how it worked in previous years |
| 06:35.26 | Catfish_Man | I assume melange is similar |
| 06:36.15 | the9a3eedi | another problem I'm getting is setting up a nice linux environment for devving. Previously I've installed ubuntu. thought it would be good for devving |
| 06:36.45 | the9a3eedi | turns out that a lot of the packages are out of date. even the experimental ones are out of date. (qt4 for exmaple. I can't compile Amarok from svn without qt4.5, which wasnt avaliable) |
| 06:36.59 | the9a3eedi | so now I'm setting up gentoo, which as you might know takes a lot of time and patience :p |
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| 06:38.02 | the9a3eedi | at least I got X up and running on gentoo lol |
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| 06:43.15 | Emmanuel | hey guys |
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| 06:43.20 | Emmanuel | regarding application legality, I am currently on a J-1 Visa in the U.S., do you guys know if am I allowed to participate in gsoc? |
| 06:44.04 | Emmanuel | the faq talks about F-1 Visa, not J-1 |
| 06:46.08 | the9a3eedi | what is this "Melange" thing the GSoC guide talks about.. |
| 06:46.10 | the9a3eedi | explores |
| 06:46.14 | Catfish_Man | the9a3eedi: melange is the webapp |
| 06:46.17 | the9a3eedi | is it something required |
| 06:46.18 | the9a3eedi | ? |
| 06:46.25 | Catfish_Man | very much so |
| 06:46.26 | the9a3eedi | and what does it do? |
| 06:46.29 | Catfish_Man | Emmanuel: no idea, I would contact someone at google |
| 06:46.34 | Catfish_Man | the9a3eedi: it lets you apply |
| 06:46.42 | scorche | socghop.appspot.com = Melange |
| 06:46.43 | the9a3eedi | oh wait. ...... oh |
| 06:46.48 | the9a3eedi | I already done that lol |
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| 06:47.19 | Emmanuel | Catfish_Man: thx, I'll try that |
| 06:47.19 | the9a3eedi | doesn't look like a web app at all :P I expected more AJAX :P |
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| 06:47.49 | Catfish_Man | the9a3eedi: it's written mostly in python |
| 06:47.51 | kblin | huh? "international association of online engineering"? |
| 06:48.37 | kblin | the9a3eedi: it's a website that lets you do stuff, like sign up for gsoc.. looks like a web app to me |
| 06:49.08 | pcmattman | AJAX != webapp |
| 06:50.41 | ankitg | Emmanuel: On J1 eh ... so I assume, A*Star didn't pan out as planned ... |
| 06:50.56 | casinaroyale | pcmattman: are you checking it, Lucky you, its TRUE :P |
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| 06:54.00 | mdc_mobile | 3am in Boston, prime hacking time :) |
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| 07:08.51 | werdna | sneaks in |
| 07:09.05 | Catfish_Man | saw that |
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| 07:13.03 | the9a3eedi | bah. Windows Backup and Restore Center fails. |
| 07:15.13 | werdna | ^Backup and Restore Center ^^ |
| 07:15.39 | the9a3eedi | ? |
| 07:15.54 | rwcr | "Replace `Backup and Restore Center' with `' and run the above command again." |
| 07:15.59 | rwcr | AKA: "Windows fails." |
| 07:16.12 | Landon | o.O |
| 07:16.18 | Landon | what kind of syntax is that? |
| 07:16.24 | rwcr | It's a shell shortcut, like !! |
| 07:16.31 | Landon | ah |
| 07:16.32 | Landon | interesting |
| 07:16.33 | Landon | shoot |
| 07:16.41 | Landon | I think 99% of the channel would have done a substitution regex |
| 07:16.42 | Landon | :) |
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| 07:18.07 | werdna | shell substitutions rock. |
| 07:18.36 | werdna | !!, !*, ^^, etc |
| 07:18.37 | socinfo | Error: "!," is not a valid command. |
| 07:18.41 | werdna | heh |
| 07:19.00 | Landon | I suppose it would be handy |
| 07:19.09 | werdna | !help |
| 07:19.09 | socinfo | "help" is see !next, !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 07:19.10 | Landon | now to identify a place where I'd actually use anything other than !! |
| 07:19.11 | Landon | :P |
| 07:19.17 | ojwb | !$ is very useful |
| 07:19.17 | socinfo | Error: "$" is not a valid command. |
| 07:19.20 | ojwb | more than !! |
| 07:19.22 | Landon | what's that one? |
| 07:19.25 | werdna | what's !$? |
| 07:19.34 | rwcr | Shell substitutions rock... until you type echo "Shell substitutions rock!" and wonder why it's complaining. |
| 07:19.35 | ojwb | last argument of the previous command |
| 07:19.41 | ojwb | mv foo bar |
| 07:19.44 | ojwb | chmod 755 !$ |
| 07:19.45 | Landon | ah |
| 07:19.47 | ojwb | sort of thing |
| 07:19.51 | Landon | I think !! is handier :) |
| 07:19.55 | Landon | at least for what I use it for |
| 07:19.57 | werdna | I use ^^ all the time, i.e. if you mistype a file name, or need to do the same thing to multiple files |
| 07:20.00 | Landon | vim /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf |
| 07:20.01 | ojwb | prefers not to chmod mv |
| 07:20.01 | Landon | sudo !! |
| 07:20.03 | werdna | rwcr: single-quotes. |
| 07:20.13 | werdna | :)) |
| 07:20.39 | rwcr | I know, but I tend not to see ! as a character that needs escaping, because it's only evaluated in particular contexts. |
| 07:20.47 | rwcr | echo "Shell substitutions rock! Really." works fine, I think. |
| 07:20.52 | werdna | fair enough |
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| 07:22.46 | Landon | http://ge.ecomagination.com/smartgrid/#/augmented_reality |
| 07:22.50 | Landon | that's the bees knees :o |
| 07:22.57 | Landon | too bad I dont have a printer |
| 07:22.59 | Landon | or a webcam hooked up |
| 07:23.07 | werdna | it's annoying to search for shell substitutions because google won't search for !!, !?, !*, etc |
| 07:23.24 | Landon | annoying to search for hyphenated stuff as well |
| 07:23.27 | werdna | so I'm curious -- do mentors get t-shirts? :) |
| 07:23.29 | Landon | or stuff with a . in it |
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| 07:23.47 | Catfish_Man | werdna: we do |
| 07:23.48 | ankitg | werdna: search within double quotes eg.: "!!" |
| 07:23.57 | werdna | Your search - "!!" - did not match any documents. |
| 07:24.03 | werdna | Catfish_Man: awesomes :) |
| 07:24.05 | ankitg | awww ... |
| 07:24.30 | ankitg | is off to school ... project meeting ... |
| 07:24.34 | werdna | have fun |
| 07:25.11 | werdna | ooh Catfish_Man is from Adium. |
| 07:25.17 | Landon | git: 'co' is not a git-command. See 'git --help'. |
| 07:25.20 | Landon | whoops |
| 07:25.29 | werdna | git clone |
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| 07:25.34 | Catfish_Man | werdna: we're not participating this year though, so no shirt for me this time |
| 07:25.39 | werdna | Catfish_Man: :( |
| 07:25.56 | ChipX86 | Catfish_Man: that's too bad :/ |
| 07:26.00 | werdna | adium is awesome, but I was hoping you'd have webcam support as a student project :( |
| 07:26.04 | Catfish_Man | heh |
| 07:26.17 | Catfish_Man | even if we were participating, that would be on the auto-do-not-accept list for ideas |
| 07:26.26 | rwcr | Too ambitious? |
| 07:26.32 | Catfish_Man | too many talented students have wasted a summer on that :/ |
| 07:26.42 | ChipX86 | webcams in IM projects... that takes me back |
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| 07:27.14 | werdna | what's the usual sticking point, Catfish_Man? |
| 07:27.28 | Catfish_Man | werdna: dunno really. I wasn't mentoring those projects |
| 07:27.39 | Catfish_Man | sup ChipX86? |
| 07:27.55 | ChipX86 | not much, doing a release, looking at studnet applications |
| 07:28.12 | ChipX86 | student, even.. |
| 07:28.40 | Landon | needs to be to bed soon so he can go run around pointing guns at people : |
| 07:29.04 | Landon | yay airsoft |
| 07:29.04 | werdna | Landon: do explain |
| 07:29.07 | werdna | oic |
| 07:29.15 | Landon | heh |
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| 07:29.21 | Landon | went to go get my popcorn out of the microwave |
| 07:29.27 | Landon | "Oh crap, I hope no one takes that the wrong way" |
| 07:29.39 | kblin | Landon: git co works on my box :) |
| 07:29.45 | Landon | kblin: o.O |
| 07:29.50 | kblin | Landon: git aliases ftw |
| 07:29.53 | Landon | ah |
| 07:30.28 | kblin | like "git ai" does a "git add --interactive" |
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| 07:31.52 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. What's a good web page editing program? seeing as how I'm planning to get involved with projects and stuff, it makes sense for me to have my own personal webpage. |
| 07:32.15 | Landon | I just used vim for mine |
| 07:32.22 | Landon | kind of a pita though since I don't have wrapping set up right :P |
| 07:32.23 | the9a3eedi | Landon, that's what I'm using now :P |
| 07:32.33 | Landon | always wants to wrap in a tag >.< |
| 07:32.53 | the9a3eedi | http://scs.carleton.ca/~mkhoory/ lol. was testing the uni's hosting service out |
| 07:32.58 | werdna | I use TextWrangler. |
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| 07:33.18 | werdna | it's icky commercial, but it's an awesome text editor for mac. |
| 07:33.50 | the9a3eedi | I was thinking more WYSIWYG lol |
| 07:33.51 | Landon | the9a3eedi: I just updated my projects page |
| 07:33.54 | Landon | http://lfowles.org |
| 07:34.01 | Landon | whoops |
| 07:34.07 | Landon | need to update my homepage |
| 07:34.08 | Landon | but |
| 07:34.12 | Landon | http://lfowles.org/projects/ |
| 07:34.29 | the9a3eedi | LawnGnome,you hand-coded it all? nice :P |
| 07:35.03 | Landon | I borrowed some CSS from the pisg page |
| 07:35.07 | the9a3eedi | oops.. tab completion failed me. |
| 07:35.20 | Landon | the projects page is in django as well |
| 07:35.35 | Landon | so I can add projects easily without busting open vim |
| 07:35.36 | Landon | :) |
| 07:35.53 | the9a3eedi | the hosting serivce my uni provides only does static html, I think |
| 07:36.09 | Landon | ah |
| 07:36.21 | Landon | yeah, django is a pain to get working if it's not your server |
| 07:36.21 | Landon | :p |
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| 07:37.15 | the9a3eedi | I might move on to a Virtual Web Server .. or whatever they call them |
| 07:37.24 | the9a3eedi | where the "server" is a virtual machine you control |
| 07:37.27 | Landon | VPS |
| 07:37.30 | Landon | that's what I'm using now |
| 07:37.31 | the9a3eedi | yeah |
| 07:37.32 | Landon | www.vpsvillage.com |
| 07:37.35 | Landon | :) |
| 07:37.45 | the9a3eedi | yeah, they're nice |
| 07:37.49 | scorche | linodelinodelinode |
| 07:37.53 | Landon | :P |
| 07:37.56 | the9a3eedi | but.. rather pricey, compared to normal hosting |
| 07:38.02 | Landon | scorche: bah! I only need one 9 uptime |
| 07:38.09 | scorche | the9a3eedi: shared hosting is crap |
| 07:38.12 | the9a3eedi | eh.. 6$ per month o_o |
| 07:38.28 | the9a3eedi | 4GB space.. not bad o_O |
| 07:38.38 | Landon | the9a3eedi: no SLA, and from what I hear no RAID/backups either so do your own |
| 07:38.38 | the9a3eedi | I mean, that's all I need :p |
| 07:39.03 | the9a3eedi | SLA? |
| 07:39.15 | Landon | service level agreement or something like that |
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| 07:39.39 | Landon | basically "We'll be up XX% of the time or you'll get reimbursed for downtime" |
| 07:39.40 | Catfish_Man | heh. I'm using 1.3% of my shared hosting |
| 07:39.47 | Catfish_Man | such a waste |
| 07:39.52 | the9a3eedi | Landon, oh |
| 07:40.09 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. well, if their uptime is that bad, then I'm just going to cancel my subscription lol |
| 07:40.26 | Landon | it's not _bad_ |
| 07:40.27 | the9a3eedi | as for RAID/backups.. I could make my own I guess |
| 07:40.31 | Landon | especially for a small site |
| 07:40.34 | Landon | but it's just not guaranteed |
| 07:40.39 | the9a3eedi | hell.. for the price.. its aweosme :p |
| 07:40.50 | Landon | they have another line of VPS under grokthis.net starting at $20ish or so |
| 07:40.51 | Landon | :P |
| 07:41.05 | Landon | with all the luxuries |
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| 07:41.52 | the9a3eedi | hmm |
| 07:41.58 | scorche | linodelinodelinode |
| 07:42.03 | Landon | :P |
| 07:42.04 | the9a3eedi | I wonder if I can keep a torrent daemon on a vps :P |
| 07:42.27 | the9a3eedi | make it torrent stuff |
| 07:42.30 | the9a3eedi | ah.. the possibilities :p |
| 07:42.33 | Landon | probably |
| 07:42.42 | Landon | check the terms |
| 07:43.19 | scorche | the9a3eedi: depends on the provider |
| 07:43.27 | kblin | Landon: if you find out how to make vim nicer for html, I'd be interested in the .vimrc settings involved :) |
| 07:43.31 | scorche | (linodelinodelinode) |
| 07:43.44 | Landon | kblin: well, I don't think it's possible |
| 07:43.48 | the9a3eedi | Examples of non-acceptable content: |
| 07:43.52 | the9a3eedi | Pirated software, music, and movies |
| 07:43.53 | ChipX86 | linode's pretty nice up to a point |
| 07:43.54 | the9a3eedi | lol |
| 07:43.59 | Landon | but one thing that annoys me the most are my crap wrapping settings :P |
| 07:44.14 | Landon | I haven't looked at my vimrc since I made it play nice with python |
| 07:44.23 | scorche | ChipX86: that point is pretty high |
| 07:44.36 | kblin | Landon: I usually do a set tw=0 for html pages |
| 07:44.40 | ChipX86 | depends on what you're doing |
| 07:44.42 | Landon | is that the setting? |
| 07:44.54 | ChipX86 | simple sites, a blog, not a huge amount of traffic, etc., sure |
| 07:44.56 | Landon | I kept trying stuff like set nowrap |
| 07:45.07 | Landon | crud |
| 07:45.13 | Landon | I got popcorn goo on my keyboard |
| 07:45.18 | Landon | shouldnt have been typing before I washed my hands |
| 07:45.22 | scorche | ChipX86: sounds like you are talking about shared hosting... |
| 07:45.38 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. with the vps.. I can use it as a proxy service, which is nice seeing as how my country censors some websites |
| 07:45.47 | ChipX86 | yes. To be honest, I haven't looked at what they're offering in a couple years |
| 07:45.57 | ChipX86 | used to use them and loved it until my needs outgrew it |
| 07:46.10 | Landon | wouldnt mind a box in a colo |
| 07:46.15 | Landon | if only that weren't expensive |
| 07:46.25 | ChipX86 | colos are really expensive :/ |
| 07:46.26 | Landon | anyone want to go in on it? :P |
| 07:46.32 | scorche | i am currently using a linode 1080...and it serves some pretty decent stuff ;) |
| 07:46.39 | Catfish_Man | has been super-happy with Network Redux's hosting of Adium's website :) |
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| 07:46.45 | Landon | but by the time I get enough people in on it to have a reasonable price, I might as well be running my own VPS server |
| 07:46.46 | Landon | :\ |
| 07:47.05 | ChipX86 | I'm currently leasing a dedicated box at Silicon Valley Web Hosting |
| 07:47.16 | ChipX86 | not cheap, but effective |
| 07:47.26 | kblin | Landon: autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead *.html set textwidth=0 |
| 07:47.38 | Landon | kblin: awesome, added |
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| 07:47.53 | Landon | now to get all my stuff into a git repo |
| 07:47.56 | ChipX86 | Amazon's new prices for their EC2 hosting makes me want to try them out though |
| 07:47.59 | Landon | so I can propagate the vimrc change |
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| 07:48.20 | scorche | ChipX86: i honestly dont see much of a benefit if i were to go to dedicated...i would get arguably worse performance, pay more, be responsible for more, be less fault tolerant, etc |
| 07:48.23 | Landon | also, for any python people: http://blog.sontek.net/2008/05/11/python-with-a-modular-ide-vim/ |
| 07:48.41 | ChipX86 | scorche: nod. Again, depends on needs |
| 07:49.00 | scorche | of course =) |
| 07:49.12 | ChipX86 | one example is CIA. My co-worker hosts cia.vc, and used to use linode for it, but it reached a point where it just coudln't handle the load anymore at even their highest offering |
| 07:49.39 | scorche | ChipX86: what was that back then? |
| 07:50.22 | ChipX86 | I don't recall |
| 07:50.32 | ChipX86 | I believe it was equivalent to their linode 1440 |
| 07:51.17 | ChipX86 | at the time, they had I/O tokens (do they still?) and CIA was pretty I/O-bound in ways. Reached a point where it would run out of tokens fast |
| 07:51.54 | scorche | ChipX86: oh yeah...no more IO tokens...i noticed a massive improvement when they went from UML to Xen |
| 07:51.57 | scorche | SMP helps ;) |
| 07:52.05 | ChipX86 | I bet |
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| 08:42.06 | the9a3eedi | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/ea763825ad61cb21?hl=en lol. |
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| 08:43.14 | kblin | shrugs |
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| 08:44.33 | kblin | I don't care much about RTFMs that don't include WFMTR |
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| 08:44.50 | the9a3eedi | gah. I posted too soon LS |
| 08:45.07 | Landon | kblin: WTFMTR maybe? |
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| 08:48.23 | the9a3eedi | WFMTR |
| 08:49.12 | Landon | oh |
| 08:49.15 | Landon | I was thinking Where |
| 08:49.17 | Landon | not Want |
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| 08:50.44 | kblin | the9a3eedi: see, that's much more helpful |
| 08:50.48 | kblin | :) |
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| 08:53.05 | saurabh1403 | !orgbylang |
| 08:53.05 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 08:53.43 | kblin | hmm |
| 08:54.02 | kblin | goes to read up on the "emdl" file format |
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| 09:07.41 | the9a3eedi | kblin, actually, I wanted to ask what WFMTR meant :P |
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| 09:08.55 | ojwb | W is What, T is To, the rest are as the usual acronym |
| 09:09.08 | ojwb | well, I guess |
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| 09:09.49 | the9a3eedi | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/03/drupalcon-dc.html wow, he's 13 o_o |
| 09:09.49 | neo7 | the9a3eedi: It is actually Classical music radio station of Chicago. He might be hearing that :) |
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| 09:19.18 | dqminh | !timeline |
| 09:19.18 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 09:19.30 | kblin | the9a3eedi: well, some people do start a bit earlier |
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| 09:24.14 | the9a3eedi | kblin: still, that's pretty impressive o_o I wonder what made him interested in programming/devving. When I was 13, I was interested in computers, but not to this extent :P |
| 09:25.00 | the9a3eedi | I mean, I knew some HTML, did my own website. knew how to build a PC |
| 09:25.05 | the9a3eedi | hm |
| 09:25.34 | neo7 | at 13 I only knew BASIC and building PC |
| 09:25.48 | kitallis | at 13 i knew LOGO |
| 09:25.54 | neo7 | really impressive o_o |
| 09:26.11 | kitallis | and foxpro |
| 09:26.43 | Catfish_Man | object logo ftw |
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| 09:27.17 | Koyla | .. |
| 09:27.34 | Catfish_Man | g'night everyone |
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| 09:28.41 | kblin | the9a3eedi: Dmitri is a nice guy, and a really bright cookie, I guess he just got bored with just using the computer earlier |
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| 09:31.08 | scorche | !faq |
| 09:31.08 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 09:31.28 | neo7 | faq |
| 09:31.32 | neo7 | !faq |
| 09:31.32 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 09:31.39 | neo7 | !faq |
| 09:31.39 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 09:31.44 | neo7 | nice bot |
| 09:31.46 | neo7 | :P |
| 09:31.58 | neurodrone | :| |
| 09:32.01 | neurodrone | !faq |
| 09:32.01 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 09:32.10 | neurodrone | yep, naice! :) |
| 09:32.11 | neo7 | !faq |
| 09:32.11 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 09:32.16 | neo7 | hahahahahaha |
| 09:32.21 | ojwb | when I was 13, there was no HTML... |
| 09:32.26 | scorche | nefro_[pl]: enough |
| 09:32.29 | scorche | bah |
| 09:32.32 | ojwb | neo7 |
| 09:32.33 | scorche | neo7: enough |
| 09:32.50 | neo7 | ojwb: what is your age? |
| 09:33.17 | ojwb | well, you have a lower bound now... |
| 09:33.20 | neo7 | scorche: ok sir, but testing IRC bot isn't a crime |
| 09:33.32 | neo7 | ? |
| 09:33.45 | ojwb | neo7: that's not testing, it's spamming the channel |
| 09:33.46 | scorche | it doesnt need testing...however, we dont take kindly to bot abuse around these parts |
| 09:34.29 | neo7 | ojwb: define spamming |
| 09:35.04 | neo7 | scorche: that is ok but why it is only working for "!faq" and why not for "faq? etc" |
| 09:35.12 | ojwb | neo7: that was |
| 09:35.13 | scorche | because ! is a trigger for the bot to respond |
| 09:35.14 | lifeeth | !timeline |
| 09:35.14 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 09:35.37 | neo7 | scorche: ok fine I got it. thanks |
| 09:35.50 | neurodrone | ! |
| 09:35.54 | neo7 | scorche: what else info can we get from the bot |
| 09:35.54 | neo7 | ? |
| 09:36.01 | neo7 | !orgs |
| 09:36.01 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 09:36.30 | scorche | neo7: lots...feel free to "test" the bot in a private quesry if you feel it must be done |
| 09:36.31 | ojwb | there's really no info which isn't in the FAQ and other docs |
| 09:36.39 | neo7 | ojwb: that was not a spam, ask the mods |
| 09:36.41 | scorche | private query |
| 09:36.44 | ojwb | it just saves us all a lot of typing for answering common questions |
| 09:36.54 | ojwb | neo7: if they were awake, they'd be telling you it was |
| 09:37.04 | scorche | wonders what he is |
| 09:37.09 | neo7 | hahahahaha |
| 09:37.11 | ojwb | a moron? |
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| 09:37.18 | scorche | >_> |
| 09:37.19 | neo7 | ojwb: scorche is a mod |
| 09:37.29 | neo7 | better mind you lang |
| 09:37.34 | ojwb | scorche: was that spamming the channel? |
| 09:37.45 | scorche | sure |
| 09:37.45 | neo7 | scorche: please sa why no |
| 09:37.58 | neo7 | please say no |
| 09:38.02 | neo7 | :P |
| 09:38.03 | llml | good night? |
| 09:38.19 | llml | it's afternoon here |
| 09:38.49 | smtms | llml, it's night all over the world, you are some weird exception |
| 09:39.27 | llml | exception? Did you catch it? :) |
| 09:39.53 | llml | I am Chinese student. |
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| 09:44.47 | llml | It seems I've interrupted your talking... Sorry. |
| 09:45.27 | kblin | llml: no, you haven't |
| 09:45.40 | llml | Is anybody interested in threads scheduler of MySQL? |
| 09:46.30 | ojwb | you'll probably have more luck on the mysql channel... |
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| 09:51.05 | llml | Thanks. But there are only 30 guys on that channel. |
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| 09:52.17 | llml | People are sleeping... maybe. |
| 09:52.18 | Ivanovic | llml: uhm, sorry to tell you, but those "only 30 guys" are for many project not uncommon numbers |
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| 09:53.38 | ojwb | and that's 30 people who are actually interested in mysql, rather than 400+ here who mostly aren't |
| 09:54.20 | llml | You are right. I am turning for that channel~ |
| 09:56.22 | llml | By the way, I did not have seen PCs when I am 13... Pity... You guys are much luckier. |
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| 09:56.46 | smtms | maybe you were the lucky one |
| 09:56.58 | ojwb | neither had I... |
| 09:57.23 | ojwb | though they did exist then! |
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| 10:11.16 | BCarlyon|Home | puts the kettle on |
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| 10:14.10 | neo7 | BCarlyon|Home: Making tea? |
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| 10:21.23 | gaurav_hiiii | is there any way I can access past chat I had done in IRC.I m using chatzilla |
| 10:21.56 | neo7 | contact someone who was already on the channel from a long time |
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| 10:22.00 | neo7 | gaurav_hiiii: |
| 10:23.04 | gaurav_hiiii | is there any way to access chat logs |
| 10:23.34 | scorche | !logs |
| 10:23.34 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
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| 10:26.07 | devvrat | I have a interesting problem with google doc...my own docs are set to read-only for me |
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| 10:29.53 | devvrat | any idea?? |
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| 10:31.31 | yangyanli | devvrat: do you mean that you can not edit your proposal anymore? |
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| 10:32.04 | devvrat | no that is context in wit my gooogle acc |
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| 10:32.49 | devvrat | ya i cannot edit my proposal which i was writing in google doc |
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| 10:35.36 | yangyanli | have no idea about it:( I can not edit my proposal temporarily due to my slow network |
| 10:36.25 | SRabbelier | devvrat: that's strange, did you share the document with someone else? |
| 10:36.33 | SRabbelier | devvrat: perhaps they accidentally removed you as owner? |
| 10:36.37 | devvrat | no |
| 10:36.57 | devvrat | ya that could be a possibilty |
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| 10:37.29 | devvrat | but then i changed the owner again to myself...still it's not workin |
| 10:37.41 | irahul | !next |
| 10:37.41 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 10:38.00 | neo7 | !next |
| 10:38.00 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 10:40.29 | werdna | !tshirt |
| 10:40.29 | socinfo | Error: "tshirt" is not a valid command. |
| 10:40.31 | werdna | !shirt |
| 10:40.31 | socinfo | Error: "shirt" is not a valid command. |
| 10:40.33 | werdna | bah! |
| 10:40.34 | werdna | :P |
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| 10:42.23 | gsoc | !gsoc |
| 10:42.23 | socinfo | Error: "gsoc" is not a valid command. |
| 10:44.02 | ojwb | the tshirt comes later... |
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| 10:44.43 | neo7 | ! org |
| 10:44.43 | socinfo | Error: "org" is not a valid command. |
| 10:44.46 | neo7 | !org |
| 10:44.46 | socinfo | Error: "org" is not a valid command. |
| 10:45.02 | gsoc | !fun |
| 10:45.02 | socinfo | Error: "fun" is not a valid command. |
| 10:45.27 | gsoc | !pizza |
| 10:45.27 | socinfo | Error: "pizza" is not a valid command. |
| 10:45.46 | neo7 | gsoc: better call Dominos |
| 10:46.23 | gsoc | :) |
| 10:46.50 | werdna | ojwb: what does the mentor one look like :) |
| 10:47.15 | SRabbelier | people, let's not spam (using the bot) |
| 10:47.28 | gsoc | okay |
| 10:47.34 | antarus | spam using legitimate means |
| 10:47.34 | ojwb | you'll get kicked and banned if you keep it up |
| 10:47.56 | neo7 | werdna: Like many present in the channel itself |
| 10:48.05 | neo7 | werdna: they are human, like us |
| 10:48.06 | neo7 | :P |
| 10:48.15 | gsoc | lol |
| 10:48.15 | werdna | neo7: no, what does the mentor shirt look like |
| 10:48.16 | werdna | heh |
| 10:48.21 | ojwb | werdna: I think it's the same as the student one |
| 10:48.38 | antarus | it is the same shirt |
| 10:48.40 | werdna | I don't know what that looks like either. |
| 10:48.43 | ojwb | there's a summit one, which seems to just add "mentor summit" to the other one |
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| 10:48.50 | werdna | anyway doesn't matter |
| 10:48.53 | werdna | just curious |
| 10:49.17 | ojwb | not sure this year's design is public, but I've not been paying close attention |
| 10:49.40 | gsoc | atleast someone should differentiate both by lookin |
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| 10:51.01 | ojwb | well, the mentors have longer beards |
| 10:51.09 | ojwb | except dimitri |
| 10:51.18 | neo7 | gsoc: see the mentors will be available in the sizes of XL and XXL |
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| 10:51.35 | neo7 | while the students will be in M L only |
| 10:51.36 | neo7 | :P |
| 10:51.40 | gsoc | :D |
| 10:52.14 | gsoc | may be google should keep tshirt size to select mentors |
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| 11:04.55 | gsoc | : everybody enjoying weekend |
| 11:05.19 | kitallis | is not |
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| 11:05.40 | ashishpaliwal | What happens if more than 1 organization selects us |
| 11:05.48 | ashishpaliwal | is our opinion asked |
| 11:05.49 | ashishpaliwal | ?? |
| 11:05.55 | essix | yes |
| 11:05.56 | essix | u hav 2 choose |
| 11:05.58 | disismt | ashishpaliwal, you throw a party. |
| 11:06.42 | gsoc | work for one in this year and for the other,next year :P |
| 11:06.45 | essix | ashishpaliwal, u from india?? |
| 11:06.46 | ojwb | you may not get your first choice |
| 11:06.56 | ojwb | but you probably will |
| 11:07.11 | ojwb | make sure your preference is known by both orgs as that will help |
| 11:07.16 | disismt | ashishpaliwal, iitk? |
| 11:07.27 | disismt | gsoc, you are iitk |
| 11:07.36 | gsoc | ya |
| 11:07.47 | gsoc | mibbit leaks out ip |
| 11:07.48 | Gurpartap | gsoc: what a lame name |
| 11:07.50 | Gurpartap | gsoc |
| 11:07.57 | ojwb | ultimately it is assumed that if you will would be unhappy doing a project, you wouldn't have applied for it |
| 11:08.54 | essix | can we apply for more than one project in same organization??? |
| 11:09.12 | gsoc | ofcourse |
| 11:09.17 | ojwb | you can, but you really should talk to the org first |
| 11:09.40 | ojwb | they may be able to say you're much better suited for one, or one has had a dozen applications already |
| 11:09.54 | essix | ok |
| 11:10.40 | ojwb | so you may well be able to save yourself having to write two and spend the effort making one better application |
| 11:10.55 | gsoc | disismt: from allahbad |
| 11:10.56 | gsoc | ? |
| 11:10.59 | ashishpaliwal | thanks for overwhelming response...yes I am from IITK, india |
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| 11:11.35 | neurodrone | gurpartap ..TE wala? :D |
| 11:11.45 | Gurpartap | neurodrone: hanji |
| 11:11.57 | neurodrone | sahi oye! :) |
| 11:12.16 | gsoc | looks #gsoc-punjabi |
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| 11:12.32 | neurodrone | Gurpratap You were in the final year last time around, weren't you ? |
| 11:12.52 | Gurpartap | neurodrone: no, i'm in my 2nd year rt now |
| 11:12.53 | Gurpartap | :P |
| 11:13.15 | neurodrone | ahaa.. thats nice! :) and you are pursuing your undergrads now ? |
| 11:13.28 | Gurpartap | Yes |
| 11:13.36 | neurodrone | Gurpartap: wonderful! :) |
| 11:13.46 | Gurpartap | apka TE par ID kya hai |
| 11:13.47 | Gurpartap | :P |
| 11:13.49 | neurodrone | Gurpartap: wish you luck this time too! :) |
| 11:13.57 | neurodrone | Gurpartap : yahii hai jii :) |
| 11:13.58 | Gurpartap | na, I'm not applying this time |
| 11:14.04 | neurodrone | Gurpartap: :O why not ? |
| 11:14.16 | Gurpartap | too boring :P |
| 11:14.24 | neurodrone | hahah :D |
| 11:14.29 | neurodrone | I am planning to re |
| 11:14.35 | neurodrone | lets see how everything goes |
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| 11:14.41 | Gurpartap | good luck :) |
| 11:14.45 | essix | what's TE?? |
| 11:14.57 | neurodrone | I am out of my undergrads but in between the transition to pursuing Masters |
| 11:14.59 | Gurpartap | TEnsion nahi lene ka |
| 11:15.17 | neurodrone | so i do not exactly know if I qualify or not :D |
| 11:15.19 | gsoc | naahi dene ka :P |
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| 11:15.33 | neurodrone | gsoc :O |
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| 11:16.01 | neurodrone | nahi nahi dene ka* :P |
| 11:16.10 | mib_8i41eqai | Hi |
| 11:16.30 | gsoc | neurodrone: typo buddy |
| 11:16.37 | mib_8i41eqai | Anyone who have applied for SIP Communicator?? |
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| 11:17.21 | mib_8i41eqai | anyone? |
| 11:17.26 | neurodrone | nah not typo.. :P |
| 11:17.27 | kitallis | gsoc why are u named gsoc? is that the only thing you do? |
| 11:17.31 | neurodrone | nvm :D |
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| 11:20.14 | gsoc_ | kitallis: as of these days, only gsoc :) |
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| 11:36.07 | irahul | !timeline |
| 11:36.07 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 11:49.57 | gsoc | !voldemort |
| 11:49.58 | socinfo | Error: "voldemort" is not a valid command. |
| 11:50.12 | kitallis | wtf are you trying to do gsoc |
| 11:50.25 | ojwb | get banned for bot abuse, I assume |
| 11:50.42 | gsoc | sorry folks |
| 11:50.51 | werdna | gsoc: you can private-message the bot |
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| 11:51.11 | kitallis | werdna: heh |
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| 11:52.25 | werdna | no you seriously can |
| 11:52.49 | gsoc | btw,i think i everyone fears his name :P |
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| 12:04.24 | chunmun | gsoc: you are really OT! :P |
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| 12:12.35 | kv86 | hi i am unable to connect to the irc channel #ns-3. I tried to find it on freenode, through mibbit, though the irc channels of other organizations are listed. I cannot find the one for nsnam. |
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| 12:13.02 | ojwb | some channel block mibbit |
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| 12:13.36 | ojwb | so I suggest you try a different client |
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| 12:13.54 | fw | ojwb: #ns-3 does not block mibbit |
| 12:14.11 | ojwb | well I don't know then... |
| 12:14.32 | ojwb | is it on freenode? |
| 12:14.37 | fw | ojwb: yes. |
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| 12:14.47 | fw | *shrug* |
| 12:15.03 | kv86 | can any of you connect to #ns-3 ? |
| 12:15.09 | fw | yes. |
| 12:15.28 | kv86 | can you please help me out with it. |
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| 12:19.40 | typ0 | hi |
| 12:20.05 | typ0 | whenever i open a project idea's page from a link here |
| 12:20.06 | typ0 | http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 12:20.18 | typ0 | my current page goes to that organization profile at google |
| 12:20.44 | fw | kv86: i do not know why you can't join, and since you only say that "it doesn't work" i can't help you, sorry. |
| 12:20.59 | typ0 | shouldn't it stay put unless i click to see the organization profile ? |
| 12:21.16 | thiago_home | huh, interesting |
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| 12:21.28 | thiago_home | there's some JS black magic behind the scenes |
| 12:21.54 | ojwb | it doesn't change for me |
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| 12:22.08 | chunmun | typ0: neither for me |
| 12:22.34 | typ0 | hmmm..i tried in safari 4 and camino 2beta |
| 12:22.37 | ojwb | i guess it's some browser portability issue |
| 12:22.53 | ojwb | report it in the melange tracker, or on #melange |
| 12:22.53 | chunmun | kv86: yes #ns-3 was connected without any issues |
| 12:23.08 | kv86 | fw: when i connect to freenode via mibbit, I can see channels for all the organizations but #ns-3 is not available. |
| 12:23.19 | typ0 | cool |
| 12:23.20 | typ0 | thanks |
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| 12:23.38 | chunmun | kv86: join any channel and then type in /join #ns-3 |
| 12:24.00 | fw | kv86: you"re right, ns-3 has +s chan mode, dunno why |
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| 12:25.06 | kv86 | chunmun: thanks for you help, it worked out. |
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| 12:27.42 | chunmun | kv86: you are welcome :) |
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| 12:43.03 | ajuonline | chunmun: yo ;) |
| 12:43.17 | chunmun | ajuonline: hey |
| 12:43.26 | chunmun | ajuonline: how was the meet? |
| 12:43.37 | ajuonline | great |
| 12:43.45 | ajuonline | did u check the pics? |
| 12:45.01 | chunmun | ajuonline: u mean the chennai meet pics? I was rather asking abt the sahana meet :P |
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| 12:45.57 | ajuonline | sahana !meet , conference :D |
| 12:46.01 | ajuonline | it was awesome |
| 12:46.09 | ajuonline | that pics as well, uploaded on flickr |
| 12:46.11 | ajuonline | i think |
| 12:46.31 | chunmun | ajuonline: great.. send me the links for those :) |
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| 12:47.54 | PearlJam | can anyone here possibly guide me as to how to combine multiple patches into a single patch file using diff? |
| 12:47.57 | ajuonline | chunmun: facebook! |
| 12:48.20 | chunmun | ajuonline: ohk.. :) |
| 12:48.41 | smtms | PearlJam, get original sources, apply all patches, create a diff |
| 12:49.10 | PearlJam | i did that. the thing is i have made changes to 3 different directories in the source, i want that output patch should have all the diff |
| 12:49.12 | sivaji | PearlJam, cat a.patch b.patch > ab.patch this may work ? |
| 12:49.28 | ojwb | sivaji: not all that well |
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| 12:49.58 | dmj727 | Who has permissions to read the proposals? |
| 12:50.01 | ojwb | PearlJam: you'll need to keep a clean copy of the sources and use diff -r |
| 12:50.43 | PearlJam | suppose X1 is the modified directory, X is the original. i want to compare them. what should i issue? |
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| 12:51.05 | ojwb | diff -r <any other options> X X1 |
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| 12:51.34 | PearlJam | thank you. |
| 12:51.50 | rachit | can any one tell me how to get a mentor for gsoc |
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| 12:52.11 | ajuonline | rachit: you can only mentor for an open source project |
| 12:52.19 | ajuonline | signed up under gsoc program. |
| 12:52.43 | thiago_home | !anyone |
| 12:52.43 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 12:53.14 | ojwb | dmj727: mentors and admins for the project they are submitted to |
| 12:53.25 | ojwb | I'd guess google's team can look too |
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| 12:55.50 | SRabbelier | ojwb: we know all :P |
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| 13:08.21 | rachit | whats the procedure to get a mentor.. |
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| 13:09.13 | devvrat | get selected |
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| 13:09.33 | werdna | assigning a mentor is the responsibility of the organisation |
| 13:09.47 | werdna | benny`work: are there non-Technology developers at eclipse? 13:16 -!- benny`work [n=benny@eclipse/developer/Technology/bennywork] has joined #gsoc |
| 13:10.10 | SRabbelier | werdna: hehe, funny :P |
| 13:10.21 | werdna | seriously |
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| 13:10.47 | werdna | what other types of developers are there? |
| 13:11.19 | jhil | perhaps plug-in developers |
| 13:11.29 | jhil | or maybe ui developers |
| 13:11.35 | werdna | plugins aren't tech? |
| 13:11.44 | werdna | UI sounds reasonable I guess |
| 13:11.57 | werdna | but if anything it should be technology/eclipse/developer/bennywork |
| 13:12.20 | SRabbelier | werdna: fair enough :) |
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| 13:12.31 | jhil | this is the eclipse technology project: http://www.eclipse.org/technology/ |
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| 13:13.03 | werdna | eclipse/developer/astronomy/* |
| 13:13.12 | benny__ | werdna, technology is the top level project at eclipse. there are many others. i'm working most of the time for the runtime project but never changed my irc stuff :) |
| 13:14.02 | SRabbelier | fancy that |
| 13:14.32 | benny__ | :P |
| 13:14.38 | SRabbelier | maybe I should get a /awesome/melange/devs/srabbelier mask? :P |
| 13:14.52 | werdna | don't think they'd go for that |
| 13:14.55 | SRabbelier | :( |
| 13:14.55 | werdna | ah, a melange dev |
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| 13:15.11 | werdna | You'd have to sweet-talk christel into it :)) |
| 13:15.20 | SRabbelier | weiwei: christel? |
| 13:15.31 | SRabbelier | s/weiwei/werdna/ |
| 13:15.45 | werdna | I'm werdna. Christel is the big cheese for freenode |
| 13:16.47 | SRabbelier | werdna: right, that 'weiwei' was a typo :P |
| 13:17.14 | danderson | gah, the big cheese |
| 13:17.16 | werdna | a mista<s>ke</s>b |
| 13:17.21 | danderson | I want to watch monty python's flying circus now |
| 13:17.33 | SRabbelier | danderson: And rightly so! |
| 13:17.47 | werdna | there are occasions on which you don't? |
| 13:18.08 | danderson | werdna: usually after a 3 day flying circus and movie marathon, I enjoy a change |
| 13:18.34 | danderson | usually though, I just get distracted by something shiny and don't think of MP |
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| 13:46.42 | chunmun | !orgsbylang |
| 13:46.42 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 14:05.10 | weiwei | Hi SRabbelier |
| 14:05.25 | SRabbelier | weiwei: sorry to ping you earlier :P |
| 14:05.39 | SRabbelier | weiwei: mean to reply to werdna, but my fingers didn't quite agree |
| 14:05.53 | weiwei | OK |
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| 14:06.01 | werdna | is pung |
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| 14:06.53 | SRabbelier | haha |
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| 14:07.20 | atmb4u | Hi, how to apply to a purticular organization?? |
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| 14:07.30 | atmb4u | I have prepared my document.... |
| 14:07.41 | SRabbelier | !userguide |
| 14:07.41 | socinfo | "userguide" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
| 14:07.45 | SRabbelier | atmb4u: see the userguide |
| 14:07.54 | atmb4u | ok |
| 14:08.20 | SRabbelier | durin42: where'd durinbot go again :P |
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| 14:13.19 | spectie | !faw |
| 14:13.19 | socinfo | Error: "faw" is not a valid command. |
| 14:13.20 | spectie | !faq |
| 14:13.21 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 14:19.14 | durin42 | SRabbelier: probably flaky dsl |
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| 14:20.51 | SRabbelier | durin42: can't you have osuosl host him? :P |
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| 14:25.32 | durin42 | SRabbelier: heh |
| 14:27.28 | uzytkownik | !timeline |
| 14:27.28 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 14:37.56 | merlijn | is there any limit of the size of your proposal? iirc it was at 1500 words last year? |
| 14:38.20 | SRabbelier | merlijn: no, just 500 characters on the abstract |
| 14:38.25 | ArthurLiu | merlijn, 1500 ? more like 7500.. |
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| 14:38.44 | merlijn | alright thanks |
| 14:39.11 | irahul | !next |
| 14:39.11 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 15:59.06 | sandy_kc | !timeline |
| 15:59.06 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 16:02.01 | ajuonline | hi |
| 16:02.34 | Gurpartap | hi ajuonline |
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| 16:05.54 | anikethan | !faqs |
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| 16:06.21 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 16:06.38 | anikethan | ajuonline: Thanks. |
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| 16:21.54 | typ0 | anyone here is applying for OpenSSH ? |
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| 16:26.26 | EricJ | !faq |
| 16:26.26 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 16:28.13 | lh | !advice |
| 16:28.13 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
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| 16:29.08 | summatusmentis | woo! lh is here |
| 16:29.30 | smtms | unbelieveable |
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| 16:31.35 | lh | summatusmentis: hey jake |
| 16:31.38 | lh | was sick yesterday |
| 16:31.51 | summatusmentis | being sick sucks, I think I'm coming down with something again :( |
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| 16:32.39 | ArthurLiu | hi lh |
| 16:32.44 | bertrand_cachet | hi all, |
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| 16:33.14 | panesar_sandeep | hey i need help regarding gsoc.. |
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| 16:33.52 | summatusmentis | panesar_sandeep: have you read the FAQ? |
| 16:34.35 | Gofishus | can you submit more than one proposal to an org |
| 16:34.41 | smtms | you can |
| 16:35.00 | bertrand_cachet | i can't manage to find information about this detail and it is the first time we are faced with such a problem. I suspect that students are applied as a group to a project |
| 16:35.00 | Gofishus | is it frowned upon? |
| 16:35.06 | bertrand_cachet | what should i do ? |
| 16:35.17 | thiago_home | Gofishus: no |
| 16:35.28 | thiago_home | bertrand_cachet: about what? |
| 16:35.37 | robinpahwa123 | how google is going to decide, how many slot to allocate for an organization ? |
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| 16:35.52 | smtms | Gofishus, you should ask your mentoring org |
| 16:36.05 | bertrand_cachet | about handling proposal on a project that wil be performed by a group of students, not only one |
| 16:36.18 | smtms | bertrand_cachet, you can start by contacting the student/students |
| 16:36.26 | bertrand_cachet | i have no evidence but i suspect |
| 16:36.37 | bertrand_cachet | already done, on answer yet |
| 16:36.41 | bertrand_cachet | no answer |
| 16:37.28 | panesar_sandeep | is it a kind of industrial training event for students?? |
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| 16:39.02 | summatusmentis | panesar_sandeep: no, it's a way to get students interested in working on open source |
| 16:39.18 | smtms | panesar_sandeep, start at http://socghop.appspot.com/ and look for a link to the FAQ |
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| 16:39.36 | smtms | panesar_sandeep, please, don't ask questions that are already answered |
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| 16:39.45 | panesar_sandeep | smtms, i have but i hv a few ques of my own |
| 16:40.35 | panesar_sandeep | is it okay if a student with basic knowledge may apply or only students who can develop on their on without any help r needed |
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| 16:41.15 | smtms | anybody can apply, but you shouldn't need help for each line of code |
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| 16:41.29 | panesar_sandeep | okay, thnx |
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| 16:42.07 | casinaroyale | !faq |
| 16:42.08 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 16:42.33 | [LocK] | !orgsbylang |
| 16:42.33 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 16:43.17 | smtms | !I don't know how to use bookmarks |
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| 16:58.20 | RainCT | Hi |
| 16:58.57 | summatusmentis | hi RainCT |
| 16:59.09 | EricJ | Quick question: Once a student application has been filed on the website, can it modified later on? |
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| 16:59.52 | summatusmentis | EricJ: yes |
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| 17:00.14 | EricJ | summatusmentis: Thank you :) |
| 17:00.20 | summatusmentis | sure thing |
| 17:01.37 | k0p | who can see the public comments? |
| 17:03.53 | k0p | everyone associated to mentor organization, like students etc or just mentors? |
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| 17:04.35 | smtms | if they haven't changed it, it's mentors + student in question |
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| 17:05.58 | k0p | ok thanks SMParrish |
| 17:06.01 | k0p | smtms, |
| 17:06.02 | k0p | :) |
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| 17:07.38 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: hi Jake! |
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| 17:08.00 | abhu | hi any one |
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| 17:08.17 | summatusmentis | hey there ajay, how're you? |
| 17:08.32 | Chainsaw | Well here's a new one. |
| 17:08.33 | ajuonline | great. back to bsae now :) |
| 17:08.37 | Chainsaw | instead of stuck in the lift, I am stuck in a train. |
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| 17:08.41 | ajuonline | base* - assignments due tomorrow. duh! |
| 17:08.46 | Chainsaw | in a tunnel. (There's a problem with the diesel locomotive) |
| 17:08.54 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: assignments bite :) |
| 17:08.59 | pavelo | are there any hot girls nearby? |
| 17:09.00 | ajuonline | you bet :P |
| 17:09.20 | ajuonline | oO |
| 17:09.25 | ajuonline | where did that come form? |
| 17:09.27 | ajuonline | from* |
| 17:09.31 | Chainsaw | I think they have rectified the issue. The engine is revving up and we're moving. |
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| 17:10.10 | EricJ | Ouch, ugly bug there. Changing primary email-adress on your google account seems to mess up your gsoc ID. :( |
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| 17:13.28 | casinaroyale | EricJ: may be you should try #melange |
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| 17:14.04 | EricJ | casinaroyale: Let me guess, the name of the software? |
| 17:14.34 | casinaroyale | EricJ: the software running gsoc app |
| 17:14.37 | casinaroyale | :) |
| 17:14.51 | EricJ | Roger that. |
| 17:15.03 | smtms | the buggy app behind this year's GSoC :-P |
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| 17:15.23 | ajuonline | its open source. go fix :P |
| 17:18.21 | abhu | what is the url id which is asked while creating a profile |
| 17:19.26 | dhaun | abhu: "link id" - it's used as an identifier, sort of like a username |
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| 17:22.49 | anudeep22003 | hi |
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| 17:25.13 | SRabbelier | EricJ: it's not our fault |
| 17:25.23 | SRabbelier | EricJ: we get a different account from Google, how are we supposed to know it's still you? |
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| 17:25.35 | SRabbelier | smtms: The buggy app? |
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| 17:27.23 | Xano_ | To what extent does a student have to be the only one working on a project? I have an idea that involves small patches for the organisation's core project for which a lot of others develop as well. I can do a _lot_ of work for the GSoC, but this means that my work wouldn't be easy to distinguish, since others may improve the same patches I'm working on. |
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| 17:33.32 | summatusmentis | Xano_: that's kinda up to the org if they'll accept something like that, you should talk to them |
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| 17:36.02 | Xano_ | summatusmentis: So if the mentoring organisation says they don't mind my work being spread out over (a part of) the core project, it's fine for Google? |
| 17:36.25 | summatusmentis | Google doesn't make the decisions about what projects get accepted |
| 17:36.38 | Xano_ | summatusmentis: No, but they have rules. |
| 17:36.41 | Polarina | Then who does? |
| 17:37.01 | gpolo | Polarina: people that work on google, more specifically the gsoc "staff" |
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| 17:38.42 | summatusmentis | Xano_: afaik, there?s no issue with that, but I'm not a google employee |
| 17:39.16 | SRabbelier | I think you should ask lh |
| 17:39.17 | schumaml | Xano_: does the org use a revision control system for their source code? |
| 17:39.24 | SRabbelier | This would be kind of an edge case perhaps |
| 17:39.27 | Xano_ | schumaml: Yes |
| 17:40.00 | Xano_ | SRabbelier: You're completely right, it is :) |
| 17:40.01 | schumaml | then you could work on a branch (or whatever this is called) |
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| 17:40.16 | Xano_ | lh? |
| 17:40.27 | rwatson | Xano_: most open source orgs I know of prefer bounded, coherently-themed projects with well-defined goals that are easy to evaluate |
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| 17:40.35 | SRabbelier | rwatson: exactly |
| 17:40.59 | rwatson | Xano_: except in unusual edge cases, I would expect most successful proposals (and projects) to meet that specification |
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| 17:43.38 | betuss | Hello |
| 17:45.08 | betuss | hey so i want to apply foe this summer of code |
| 17:45.26 | betuss | what do they mean by ::"Site Wide User Profile."?? |
| 17:45.54 | Chainsaw | betuss: That's your profile, that you can then use for multiple proposals. |
| 17:46.17 | Chainsaw | betuss: So even if you apply to three projects, there are things that always stay the same. Your name, e-mail address etc. |
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| 17:47.08 | betuss | Ok . cool. am i supposed to create a website? , i dont see any link from the main page |
| 17:47.10 | betuss | wiat |
| 17:47.17 | betuss | i didint log on at first.. |
| 17:47.19 | betuss | got it |
| 17:47.22 | betuss | +) |
| 17:47.25 | betuss | =) |
| 17:47.29 | betuss | thanks man |
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| 17:58.14 | kitallis | !scoghop |
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| 17:58.18 | kitallis | !socghop |
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| 17:58.23 | kitallis | !timeline |
| 17:58.23 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 18:23.10 | Sepho | hi everybody |
| 18:23.27 | catfish_man | hi sepho |
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| 18:33.34 | sid0 | hm, catfish_man -- afraid of the caps today? :) |
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| 18:33.50 | summatusmentis | thos caps are scary, ok? |
| 18:34.08 | summatusmentis | just because not everyone is willing to take that step in their life doesn't mean you should make fun of them! |
| 18:34.12 | summatusmentis | >_> |
| 18:34.12 | catfish_man | sid0: I suspect bugs |
| 18:34.19 | catfish_man | I shouldn't be lowercase |
| 18:34.29 | sid0 | ooh |
| 18:34.48 | summatusmentis | I suspect an intricate plot |
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| 18:38.25 | SRabbelier | "The day Catfish_Man lost his CM"? :P |
| 18:38.34 | catfish_man | heh |
| 18:38.54 | SRabbelier | which is apparently short for "Crystal Meth" :D |
| 18:38.59 | SRabbelier | (ask wikipedia) |
| 18:39.03 | catfish_man | is crystal meth in a can |
| 18:39.13 | summatusmentis | do you always wiki abbreviations you use? |
| 18:39.25 | SRabbelier | summatusmentis: sure, why not |
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| 18:39.37 | SRabbelier | catfish_man: awesome, I'll have to hand you over to the police now |
| 18:39.41 | summatusmentis | well, it just seems inefficienct |
| 18:39.47 | summatusmentis | inefficient* |
| 18:40.01 | dhoclone_plan9 | So does discussing the merits of capital letters on IRC. |
| 18:40.03 | SRabbelier | summatusmentis: yeah, but I can't seem to fit "List of all abbreviations" in my memory :P |
| 18:40.11 | summatusmentis | haha |
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| 18:40.55 | adimania | Please someone tell me how can i provide the link of the docment created at socghop.appspot.com in my proposal |
| 18:40.57 | vini | cud ne one please tell how to connect to openswan developers |
| 18:41.05 | adimania | I mean what is the link?? |
| 18:41.25 | SRabbelier | adimania: go to the document and hit the 'public view' button |
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| 18:41.30 | SRabbelier | adimania: copy/paste the link? |
| 18:42.09 | summatusmentis | vini: they're not an org? |
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| 18:43.24 | adimania | copy paste is not working as it copies the link of editing the document |
| 18:44.04 | vini | ya the xelerance org |
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| 18:45.58 | vini | how to contact to xelerance org |
| 18:47.58 | James--Crook | vini http://www.xelerance.com/GSoC2009/ says gsoc@xelerance.com |
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| 18:50.43 | vini | ya i know that so is there no irc channel |
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| 18:51.17 | smtms | I don't know |
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| 18:52.31 | schumaml | vini: tried to follow some of the links on that page? |
| 18:53.17 | blast007 | http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/xelerance <-- there is an IRC channel listed there |
| 18:53.53 | SRabbelier | adimania: read one line above where I said "copy/aste the link" |
| 18:54.00 | vini | i wish to whether i need to download any software for traffic network thing |
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| 18:54.39 | schumaml | vini: do you know what this channel is used for? |
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| 18:55.53 | vini | ya sorry i wrote the wrong thing on wrong channel:) |
| 18:55.54 | blast007 | vini: did you look on the page I linked? |
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| 19:10.21 | ajuonline | anyone applying for Sahana? |
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| 19:10.54 | bobbens | i liked it better when the application form was all text :) |
| 19:11.27 | ajuonline | i am gonna write all plain text only |
| 19:11.50 | bobbens | can you disable the fancy interface thingy? |
| 19:11.55 | bobbens | and get nice monospace font? |
| 19:12.02 | SRabbelier | bobbens: you can wrap your text in <pre> blocks |
| 19:12.11 | ajuonline | i havent checked the new app yet |
| 19:12.36 | bobbens | i've written it up in vim |
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| 19:12.39 | bobbens | just copying it over now |
| 19:12.43 | bobbens | and it's confusing :P |
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| 19:15.24 | seiflotfy | hi guys |
| 19:15.28 | seiflotfy | any admin here can help me out |
| 19:15.43 | seiflotfy | i am listed as a student but would liek to withdraw my enlistment |
| 19:15.48 | seiflotfy | so i can become a mentor |
| 19:15.49 | seiflotfy | :) |
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| 19:16.39 | Nikerabbit | hi brion |
| 19:16.51 | SRabbelier | seiflotfy: you should mail Pawel |
| 19:16.59 | brion | waves |
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| 19:18.30 | bobbens | maybe this year I should submit more then one |
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| 19:20.44 | brion | multiple submits don't hurt :) |
| 19:20.54 | brion | but make sure all your mentor orgs are aware you've got other subs in |
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| 19:21.23 | bobbens | i'm pretty sure I'll get this one |
| 19:21.29 | bobbens | but it never hurts to get another :P |
| 19:21.35 | bobbens | maybe even to the same project :P |
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| 19:23.41 | seiflotfy | SRabbelier: how can i get his mail |
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| 19:24.13 | SRabbelier | seiflotfy: see pm |
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| 19:26.45 | uzytkownik | Why durinbot give me FAQ and userguide 3 days after finishing proposal(an the same time spent on #gsoc)? |
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| 19:27.08 | SRabbelier | uzytkownik: because it's better to tell someone twice than not |
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| 19:28.53 | uzytkownik | SRabbelier: Well. But 1) you just run this bot 2) it has some bug and tells 3 days later then it should |
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| 19:29.11 | calebr | !next |
| 19:29.11 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
| 19:29.24 | catfish_man | talk to durin42 about it |
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| 19:29.57 | SRabbelier | uzytkownik: My reply is still valid |
| 19:30.03 | uzytkownik | If 1) that's all ok. But if 2) you might want to fix it. That's all |
| 19:30.16 | uzytkownik | I do not says your reply is not valid |
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| 19:30.55 | uzytkownik | It can be either expected behavior or a bug |
| 19:31.29 | SRabbelier | uzytkownik: I am guessing durinbot didn't notice you three days ago |
| 19:31.33 | gpolo | so.. what are the plans for this year to delay student application period ? :) |
| 19:31.37 | SRabbelier | uzytkownik: he's on a server with a flaky connection |
| 19:31.53 | smtms | gpolo, the plan is - you don't send your application on time |
| 19:31.58 | smtms | just like last year |
| 19:32.23 | gpolo | smtms: glad to know they do that based on me |
| 19:32.40 | uzytkownik | SRabbelier: Ok. I've been here some time ago (even today). But if it is "known problem" - that's ok. "Bug report filled" ;) |
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| 19:33.10 | smtms | gpolo, "you" here was a general you |
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| 19:37.21 | kane77 | should the gsoc app send you e-mail when received comment on your application? |
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| 19:38.33 | SRabbelier | kane77: only if you subscribe to updates on your proposal and you have no unread notifications |
| 19:38.55 | kane77 | SRabbelier, ok, thanks |
| 19:39.10 | SRabbelier | kane77: np :) |
| 19:39.44 | ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, authenticated aggregated rss feed of all updates of an org ? pleaaase ? :) |
| 19:40.15 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: sorry, you leave me no choice |
| 19:40.18 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: patches welcome ;) |
| 19:40.25 | ArthurLiu | I'm new to python.. |
| 19:40.38 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: you can learn :) |
| 19:40.41 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: python is easy! |
| 19:40.43 | ArthurLiu | python is cool though |
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| 19:41.34 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: if you've coded in pretty much any language before you'll have no trouble with python (well, languages like Java, C, etc; for Haskell and Lisp etc. that might not hold :P) |
| 19:42.18 | ArthurLiu | I'm fluent in Ada and Caml :) |
| 19:42.24 | SRabbelier | 0.o |
| 19:42.44 | ArthurLiu | (and Java and C/C++) |
| 19:42.46 | Polarina | o.O |
| 19:42.56 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: lol :P |
| 19:43.00 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: python should be no problem then |
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| 19:44.41 | ArthurLiu | ok, I'll check out the codebase and mess around |
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| 19:45.31 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: hehe, nice, nice :) |
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| 19:46.00 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: it should actually not be that hard to get an authenticated aggregated rss feed, provided that you can get the updates part working :P |
| 19:46.09 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: (we have a GSoC applicant that is planning to do something similar) |
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| 19:52.57 | ajuonline | lh: http://www.slideshare.net/ajuonline/sahana-community-building-in-india |
| 19:52.59 | Ed1 | Hello, I'm a little confused. When you apply for a project (make a proposal) I was under the impression that you could pick an idea from the idea list, and more than one person could be assigned to work on the idea. So that's what I did, but I got a comment that someone already made the same proposal. What am I supposed to do again? :) |
| 19:53.05 | casinaroyale | !timeline |
| 19:53.05 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 19:53.31 | ajuonline | Ed1: discuss with the mentors on, "How can I collaborate on the same project?" |
| 19:54.18 | rohananil | Ed1: or make a better proposal than the other guy :) |
| 19:54.26 | ArthurLiu | as DiBona said: "Cage match, N students enter, one student leaves" :) |
| 19:54.40 | SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: +1 there |
| 19:55.12 | ArthurLiu | Ed1, so, well, make a better proposal than the others |
| 19:55.15 | floppyears | hi guys |
| 19:55.27 | floppyears | I really like the sahana project and what it stands for |
| 19:55.28 | Ed1 | lol. So typically only one student works on one idea? |
| 19:56.02 | ArthurLiu | Ed1, an idea is sized for one student during one summer |
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| 19:56.19 | floppyears | because of that I am having a hard time deciding which project to select from the project ideas list. |
| 19:56.41 | Ed1 | Oh, ok. thanks I was a little confused about that. |
| 19:56.50 | anudeep22003 | hey guys i'm real new to the coding scenario which is the easy ones?? |
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| 19:57.08 | floppyears | I've narrowed it down to: survey module, dynamic theme manager, disaster warning system , agregator mashup portal, mpr duplicate report identification, gis and disaster victim identification |
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| 19:57.27 | floppyears | what project idea do you guys think would help the most or have the greatest impact? |
| 19:57.34 | ArthurLiu | floppyears, did you talk with the sahana people ? |
| 19:57.45 | rohananil | Ed1: i would suggest , make 2x the deliverables in the project than the other guy , just to be sure :) |
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| 19:58.08 | ArthurLiu | rohananil, too late |
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| 19:58.19 | smtms | no, 10x the deliverables! :-) |
| 19:58.22 | rohananil | ah :) |
| 19:59.22 | floppyears | ArthurLiu: I've sent an email to the mailing list but haven't heard |
| 19:59.39 | ArthurLiu | floppyears, IRC maybe ? |
| 19:59.40 | floppyears | ArthurLiu: I typed that messge thinking this was their channel :( |
| 19:59.47 | floppyears | ArthurLiu: arg :) |
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| 20:00.00 | floppyears | ArthurLiu: in irssi the two windows are right next to one another |
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| 20:00.37 | rohananil | floppyears: disaster warning system ,(would have been my pick) |
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| 20:03.40 | blast007 | I would hate to be on the other side of that split |
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| 20:04.12 | betuss | what is netsplit? |
| 20:04.15 | ArthurLiu | at least we don't have netsplit takeovers these days :) |
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| 20:05.09 | smtms | betuss, the network of IRC servers becomes two networks |
| 20:05.15 | smtms | betuss, see Google for more information |
| 20:05.29 | betuss | thanks. |
| 20:06.29 | floppyears | rohananil: thanks |
| 20:06.44 | mmaruseacph2 | !next |
| 20:06.44 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
| 20:06.54 | floppyears | rohananil: yeah what I like about that project is that I would get to make a difference and help a lot of peoploe |
| 20:07.29 | rohananil | np :), yes it would |
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| 20:10.40 | hansh | hello all. I have read the FAQ. Right now I am at a US university on an F1 visa but will be living in Europe during the summer. Do I still need to go through CPT? |
| 20:11.28 | danderson | hansh: I would ask your university, they probably have an office who can answer these kinds of questions |
| 20:11.45 | danderson | if you are selected for GSoC, your legal status is that you are a contractor working for Google Inc. (the US company) |
| 20:11.58 | hansh | danderson: Indeed they do, it's just that they like to take weeks to answer any questions... |
| 20:11.59 | smtms | hansh, isn't CPT only for students that want to get course credit? |
| 20:12.46 | hansh | danderson: OK, thanks |
| 20:13.13 | danderson | hansh: are you spending the entire GSoC period in europe? |
| 20:13.30 | hansh | danderson: Yes. |
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| 20:14.00 | danderson | then I think it should be okay, but I don't know the regulations of the F-1 visa |
| 20:14.15 | hansh | smtms: course credit is, I believe, to be decided by the university |
| 20:14.17 | danderson | maybe the restrictions still apply even when you're temporarily not in the US |
| 20:14.41 | hansh | danderson: as far as I know there are only restrictions on working *inside* the US |
| 20:15.06 | danderson | hansh: do you have to get some special authorization to leave the US and then return, with the F-1 ? |
| 20:15.25 | danderson | ie. is it officially documented that you are outside the US ? |
| 20:15.30 | hansh | danderson: just a signature from the university's international office. it's not "special" |
| 20:15.41 | danderson | hmm. |
| 20:15.44 | hansh | danderson: the purpose of the signature is for re-entry with the same f-1 status |
| 20:15.52 | danderson | the risk is that the government will not know that you're outside of the US |
| 20:15.59 | danderson | and see "F-1 + job" |
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| 20:16.05 | danderson | and deny you reentry because of violation of the visa |
| 20:16.11 | ahuillet | sounds fun! |
| 20:16.29 | danderson | that is why I was recommending that you ask someone at the university :) |
| 20:16.58 | danderson | you can also try your luck ringing up the US government... There is probably a department somewhere that can answer questions on visa issues |
| 20:17.13 | hansh | danderson: right. I'm not worried about the "leaving the country" bit, I've already done that. |
| 20:17.23 | hansh | danderson: hah, government agencies helping me? |
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| 20:17.30 | danderson | well, in general, when you have a US visa, leaving is easy |
| 20:17.34 | danderson | it's the other way that's hard. |
| 20:17.36 | nixbox | as far as i know, when you exit US as an F-1 student, the I-94 record is updated, your passport is stamped with the exit date, so even in the records you are out of US |
| 20:17.48 | danderson | hansh: it sounds incredible, but it's already happened to me |
| 20:17.50 | hansh | nixbox: that was my understanding. |
| 20:17.54 | danderson | and it was even the IRS that helped me! |
| 20:17.58 | danderson | I couldn't believe it. |
| 20:18.02 | hansh | danderson: holy cow |
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| 20:18.56 | nixbox | i am planning to do the same, live outside US during summer, so probably i will contact my school's international office soon |
| 20:18.58 | danderson | (I forgot to attach my W-2 to the federal tax return, so phoned them for advice - they told me exactly where to send it, what to put on a letter attached to it, and that I shouldn't worry about it - I was amazed.) |
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| 20:20.51 | hansh | danderson: I suppose they'd rather get your money than use more money to keep you imprisoned |
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| 20:21.51 | danderson | hansh: not even. My tax return said that they owed *me* money. |
| 20:21.59 | danderson | So they actually helped me take their money :P |
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| 20:22.44 | hansh | danderson: So they really are on top of things these days |
| 20:23.00 | danderson | I still wonder if it was just an accident |
| 20:23.16 | danderson | but what I meant is, you may want to give it a try. Who knows? :) |
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| 20:25.12 | hansh | anyway, I just re-discovered GSoC (I was under 18 last time) and am worried there's not enough time to get to know a project/organization in time for making a proposal. do you think there's still hope for me yet? |
| 20:25.47 | rwcr | You've got a week. You'll be a little close to the deadline, but I think you can do it. |
| 20:26.09 | rwcr | I just submitted my proposal today and I only popped into the project's IRC channel ~4 days ago. |
| 20:26.14 | hansh | and would there be any point in me working on a project involving Python (for example) + web technologies if I've never really used Python before? |
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| 20:26.16 | danderson | hansh: it's perfectly doable. |
| 20:26.34 | hansh | rwcr & danderson: thanks. puts my mind at ease, at least a little |
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| 20:26.41 | danderson | if you've never used python before, you may have to convince the org that you can learn it fast enough |
| 20:27.40 | pavelo | (good luck) |
| 20:27.57 | MatthewWilkes | hansh: I'm a mentor for the Plone Foundation, we're python based web tech - if you'd like any feedback on your proposal let me know |
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| 20:28.37 | scorche | thinks that rwcr must be talking about a different proposal >_> |
| 20:28.51 | hansh | What I mean to say is that I have a lot of experience with web development (HTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL) and a lot of classroom experience with Java and C... and most projects require a bit more, such as knowing certain C or Java libraries or APIs, etc. |
| 20:29.00 | rwcr | scorche Yeah, it's the other one :-) |
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| 20:32.09 | MatthewWilkes | hansh: No, this is a learning process, as long as you can show the organisation you really want to learn, that's more than enough |
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| 20:33.33 | hansh | MatthewWilkes: I figured as much, but all the "requirements" seemed a bit intimidating |
| 20:34.41 | MatthewWilkes | hansh: Do you mind if I ask what organisation you're thinking of applying for? |
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| 20:37.12 | hansh | MatthewWilkes: none in particular just yet, though I did make a shortlist. let me go find it... |
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| 20:40.05 | ArthurLiu | hansh, we have http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009/Blends_Webtools for you over here at Debian. It's a bit more than just web development though :) |
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| 20:43.10 | casinaroyale | Is it a problem if we take a vacation of 10 days during summer? |
| 20:43.26 | ArthurLiu | casinaroyale, tell it in advance, 10 days should be ok |
| 20:43.44 | casinaroyale | 15 days? :P |
| 20:44.06 | casinaroyale | ArthurLiu: should I include it in my proposal? |
| 20:44.12 | hansh | ArthurLiu: hmm, that does sound interesting, though I would have to learn a lot of Python |
| 20:44.49 | ArthurLiu | casinaroyale, yes, and tell it to the mentors you're discussing with. Certainly you are already discussing with them, right ? |
| 20:45.07 | SRabbelier | casinaroyale: that's something you'd need to discuss with the org you are applying to before, or when, applying |
| 20:45.21 | MatthewWilkes | hansh: Ours is at http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/org/google/gsoc2009/plone/ideas - we've tried to focus on non-python skills you'd need, which should give you more of an idea of context |
| 20:45.48 | hkpco | excuse me, i have a question. what is the difference between "* An overview of your proposal" and "Abstract"?. |
| 20:45.49 | casinaroyale | ok |
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| 20:47.56 | patri | can i edit the contents of my application after applying ? or do i just get to comment on it ? |
| 20:47.59 | homunq | hkpco: |
| 20:48.04 | homunq | !askyourorg |
| 20:48.04 | SRabbelier | patri: you can edit it |
| 20:48.05 | socinfo | "askyourorg" is You should ask the organization you are interested in applying as this varies per organization. |
| 20:48.06 | hkpco | yep |
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| 20:48.26 | hkpco | ah, thank you. |
| 20:48.28 | patri | thanx |
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| 20:50.20 | MatthewWilkes | And, incidentally, we've recently re-written our ideas list from ideas garnered from some examples lh posted, if anyone (students or mentors) would like to give us feedback on how they find it, that'd be awesome. |
| 20:53.05 | smtms | MatthewWilkes, may we compare with the old list? |
| 20:54.24 | MatthewWilkes | smtms: Not really, it's not been versioned, last year's list was similar though : http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-summer-of-code-2008/project-ideas |
| 20:55.16 | kblin | hi folks |
| 20:55.21 | MatthewWilkes | kblin! |
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| 20:57.08 | kblin | MatthewWilkes! |
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| 21:07.39 | hansh | eh? |
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| 21:07.43 | hansh | hm.. |
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| 21:18.13 | MatthewWilkes | !next |
| 21:18.13 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 21:21.07 | hansh | am I correct in saying that students will be independent contractors working with Google Inc., which has to report the pay using Form 1099-MISC? |
| 21:21.51 | summatusmentis | yes |
| 21:22.07 | summatusmentis | although i don't know if it's MISC or just 1099 |
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| 21:28.06 | Sapient | please take me off the SoC mentor ML; I am getting flooded with mail and the unsubscribe features aren't working |
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| 21:28.30 | Ivanovic | lh: can you give Sapient a hand with this stuff? |
| 21:29.03 | ajuonline | Sapient: maybe siwtch to digest mode for the time being? |
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| 21:31.12 | Sapient | ajuonline: It doesn't work... it won't let me login or change anything |
| 21:31.41 | Sapient | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list?hl=en |
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| 21:32.35 | Ivanovic | Sapient: have you clicked on the "edit my membership" entry on the right? |
| 21:33.00 | Ivanovic | there you should be able to set things to "No Email" (of course it only works when logged in into the google code account) |
| 21:33.00 | Sapient | It says I am not a memeber |
| 21:33.04 | schumaml | Sapient: can you sign in to anything else related to soc? |
| 21:33.05 | Sapient | WTF |
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| 21:33.45 | Sapient | "You cannot view the group's content or participate in the group because you are not currently a member" |
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| 21:34.24 | Sapient | I also tried unsubscribing with email |
| 21:34.25 | danderson | send an email to list-name-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com |
| 21:34.27 | Ivanovic | interesting... |
| 21:34.36 | schumaml | Sapient: are you signed in? |
| 21:34.38 | danderson | should work if you're sending from the address that is subscribed. |
| 21:34.40 | Sapient | danderson: already tried ^^ |
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| 21:35.04 | Sapient | the email comes back as "Your unsubscription request has expired or is invalid" |
| 21:35.49 | Sapient | schumaml: yes, signed in |
| 21:35.49 | danderson | Sapient: sorry, I'm not an admin of that group, I can't help you out there. You need lh. |
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| 21:40.21 | SRabbelier | Whom is on her way home, so you'll have to be patient :P |
| 21:40.32 | SRabbelier | Sapient: anyway, why don't you filter the mail coming from the mentor list for now? |
| 21:40.54 | Sapient | alas, I also tried to do that |
| 21:41.26 | Sapient | I am blocking google-summer-of-code-mentors-list@googlegroups.com but it still keeps coming |
| 21:41.48 | Sapient | my only alternative would be to block the whole @googlegroups.com |
| 21:41.53 | schumaml | err |
| 21:41.56 | Sapient | which I may do |
| 21:41.57 | SRabbelier | Sapient: where does it come from then? |
| 21:42.23 | schumaml | you are sure that you don't mix it up with gsoc-discuss mail? |
| 21:43.14 | Sapient | this sucky mail client won't show the whole headers so I'm not sure |
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| 21:43.55 | Sapient | I assum that it's something @googlegroups.com though |
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| 21:44.53 | schumaml | well, if the last few messages did contain something about J-1 visa, it is gspc-discuss |
| 21:45.46 | schumaml | and you really should have mentioned that you can't tell where the mails do come from |
| 21:46.18 | schumaml | (and maybe switch to a better mail client?) |
| 21:47.00 | kblin | sighs |
| 21:47.18 | kblin | stupid borked piece of code |
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| 21:47.41 | SRabbelier | kblin: what is? |
| 21:47.52 | Sapient | It's definitely the mentor mailing list |
| 21:48.08 | SRabbelier | Sapient: pm me the subject of one of those emails |
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| 21:48.50 | kblin | SRabbelier: somebody tried to add SSO support into my gsoc2005 code |
| 21:49.19 | kblin | it doesn't seem to be working, and now somebody else is complaining about that |
| 21:49.28 | SRabbelier | kblin: complaining to you I'm guessing? |
| 21:49.35 | kblin | and I just tried to figure out what's happening |
| 21:49.44 | kblin | yeah, of course, or I wouldn't bother too much |
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| 22:39.14 | _SerialNo_ | is here any java coders? |
| 22:40.29 | harlan | not me, _SerialNo_ |
| 22:40.49 | paulerickson | I coded in java for a programming contest yesterday |
| 22:41.31 | paulerickson | that's not to say I'm a great java coder :) |
| 22:43.07 | _SerialNo_ | wel |
| 22:43.09 | _SerialNo_ | ok |
| 22:43.52 | _SerialNo_ | so does anybody know some java projects in Gsoc 2009 |
| 22:44.02 | Catfish_Man | !orgsbylang |
| 22:44.02 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 22:44.36 | _SerialNo_ | ok |
| 22:44.38 | _SerialNo_ | thankc |
| 22:44.46 | _SerialNo_ | thanks |
| 22:44.56 | paulerickson | cool |
| 22:45.59 | ajuonline | o noes, the caps are back? |
| 22:46.51 | slouvan | ajuonline: did you work for OpenNMS last year? |
| 22:47.14 | tntcoda | what caps? |
| 22:47.54 | _SerialNo_ | who caps? |
| 22:48.49 | scorche|sh | where caps? |
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| 22:50.53 | ajuonline | catfish_man --> Catfish_Man |
| 22:50.56 | ajuonline | scorche|sh: ^ |
| 22:51.14 | Catfish_Man | ajuonline: I rebuilt with some fixes :) |
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| 22:56.28 | ajuonline | .. |
| 22:56.37 | Azalit | ... |
| 22:56.49 | ajuonline | Catfish_Man: kool, kool! :P |
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| 23:24.35 | araujo | hi |
| 23:26.39 | Azalit | pretty lively in here, isn't it? |
| 23:27.47 | harlan | I have some code that we want to use for a GSoC project and I am looking for a place to "host" it - CVS or whatever. It would be nice if there was a web interface and maybe a bug report area or some sort of wiki/blog area. |
| 23:28.05 | harlan | I was thinking about using sourceforge or gforge. Any other ideas? |
| 23:28.20 | Raim | harlan: doesn't your organization have vcs? |
| 23:29.00 | harlan | yes, but we only allow project developers write access, so this would be "too early". We need signed paperwork. |
| 23:29.15 | harlan | For this project I just want to make it even more open. |
| 23:29.31 | Murmuria | Google has a place to host code, I think |
| 23:29.38 | Murmuria | not very sure though |
| 23:29.52 | ajuonline | code.google.com |
| 23:30.05 | harlan | looks - thanks! |
| 23:32.32 | Ori_B | harlan: there's no way you could do a branch? |
| 23:32.53 | harlan | Ori_B: this is a totally separate project. |
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| 23:33.05 | Ori_B | heh |
| 23:34.15 | harlan | OK, it's *related* but there's no easy way to have it "tag along". |
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| 23:54.57 | irahul | !next |
| 23:54.57 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
| 23:55.56 | r0bby | happy |
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