| 00:00.35 | esam | Does anyone know any compiler related gsoc projects, except llvm? |
| 00:00.39 | wraithguard01_ | For the sake of making this document more readable, the project ideas that students submit to an organization will be alternately called "propsals" and "applications." |
| 00:00.44 | wraithguard01_ | "propsals" |
| 00:01.45 | ojwb | esam: erm, gcc? |
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| 00:01.57 | ojwb | !orgbycat |
| 00:01.58 | socinfo | "orgbycat" is 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
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| 00:02.08 | ojwb | if there are more, they're probably tagged there |
| 00:02.51 | esam | ojwb: thanks |
| 00:03.28 | wraithguard01_ | lh: Remeber, if adding a public comment to an application, score information will not preserved when submitting the comment. |
| 00:03.34 | wraithguard01_ | "Remeber" |
| 00:04.04 | wraithguard01_ | Following Google's publication of student allocations, an organization admistrator has the ability to manipulate the rank of a particular proposal to ensure that it is accepted, regardless of a previous score or ranking. |
| 00:04.17 | wraithguard01_ | "admistrator" |
| 00:04.46 | wraithguard01_ | Please use the complete formal name of your school, e.g. UC Berekeley instead of Cal or UCB. |
| 00:05.09 | wraithguard01_ | "Berekeley" it should be Berkeley |
| 00:05.13 | ojwb | aww, I liked that one |
| 00:05.47 | enginuitor | I think the more important thing to note about that particular line is the assertion that using two different names alternatively for the same thing is for the sake of clarity :-/ |
| 00:05.57 | wraithguard01_ | lh: I think that's all. |
| 00:05.57 | lh | wraithguard01_: fixed all these anything else |
| 00:06.02 | lh | wraithguard01_: thanks fixed |
| 00:06.16 | ojwb | it's also odd that "UC Berkeley" is the *complete* formal name |
| 00:06.23 | wraithguard01_ | Sorry I'm a grammar nazi. :) |
| 00:06.46 | lh | wraithguard01_: all good, my eyes were bleeding by the time i published that |
| 00:06.47 | enginuitor | Perhaps I'm reading it wrong or neglecting the context, though :-) |
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| 00:07.26 | araujo | le envia una rosa a lh |
| 00:08.00 | ojwb | wonders if he's going to get 149 emails from the mentor list about how many applications each org currently has |
| 00:08.19 | wraithguard01_ | I can imagine. It's pretty long. |
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| 00:09.25 | wraithguard01_ | lh: you missed "propsals" |
| 00:09.43 | lh | araujo: thank you dear |
| 00:10.04 | araujo | lh, como estas amiga? .. |
| 00:10.17 | lh | wraithguard01_: fixed |
| 00:10.19 | lh | thanks |
| 00:10.35 | lh | araujo: un poca consada pero allegre, y tu? |
| 00:11.10 | araujo | knows lh must be _terribly_ busy , so he won't ask her for more |
| 00:11.24 | araujo | lh, hah, relax a bit! ... |
| 00:11.40 | araujo | lh, que bueno que estes alegre , yo estoy bien gracias :) |
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| 00:12.50 | devilsadvocate | is the formal name UC Berkeley, or University of California, Berkeley? |
| 00:13.54 | devilsadvocate | (just curious) |
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| 00:14.50 | lh | araujo: wonderful |
| 00:15.04 | lh | devilsadvocate: i suppose it is university of california at berkeley |
| 00:15.13 | lh | but whatever |
| 00:15.16 | lh | it's not Cal :) |
| 00:15.19 | devilsadvocate | :) |
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| 00:24.22 | esam | ojwb: what is erm? didn't find the name in the list |
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| 00:28.24 | ojwb | it's a verbal noise |
| 00:28.26 | ojwb | ignore it |
| 00:30.04 | esam | :) |
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| 00:30.29 | Justinede | hello all. |
| 00:30.46 | Justinede | i had a quick question about gsoc |
| 00:31.23 | SRabbelier | !ask |
| 00:31.23 | socinfo | "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. Meta-questions lead to meta-answers and wasted time. |
| 00:31.49 | Justinede | I am a softmore in highschool and gsoc looked interesting. I know a lot of HTML and CSS and a bit of PHP. Would I be okay to join? |
| 00:32.18 | SRabbelier | !advice |
| 00:32.18 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 00:32.24 | SRabbelier | mhhh... not the one I mean |
| 00:32.28 | homunq | Justinede: how old are you? |
| 00:32.33 | Justinede | 16 |
| 00:32.41 | SRabbelier | Justinede: in that case, no, you're not eligible |
| 00:32.45 | homunq | you are not eligible. Look into GHOP. |
| 00:32.56 | Justinede | what is the age requirement? |
| 00:33.06 | homunq | 18 as of april 20 |
| 00:33.09 | homunq | !faq |
| 00:33.09 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 00:33.19 | Justinede | oh okay. what is GHOP? |
| 00:33.20 | homunq | !ghop |
| 00:33.20 | socinfo | "ghop" is The Google Highly Open Participation Contest: http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 00:33.29 | pi31415926535 | in which channel can i ask about code.google? |
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| 00:34.13 | Justinede | alright thanks guys ;) |
| 00:34.28 | SRabbelier | pi31415926535: I don't think code.google.com has an irc channel |
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| 00:35.14 | pi31415926535 | SRabbelier: i am writing a software and i don't want anyone to sell it. which license does that? |
| 00:35.43 | SRabbelier | pi31415926535: ask Wikipedia |
| 00:35.54 | SRabbelier | pi31415926535: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_licenses |
| 00:36.01 | isaacd | Do I need to submit any paper/tax forms in order to apply as GSOC student, (or only later in April iff I'm accepted)? |
| 00:36.27 | SRabbelier | !faq |
| 00:36.27 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 00:36.30 | SRabbelier | isaacd: see above |
| 00:36.30 | homunq | pi31415926535: legal answer: lots, but none of them are open source. practical answer: any open source license combined with your continuing active participation and reasonableness. |
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| 00:39.04 | isaacd | SRabbelier: okay, the FAQ doesn't say directly, but it makes it sound like you only need to submit forms in order (in time) to get *paid*... |
| 00:39.08 | pi31415926535 | homunq: my english is not so good. as i understand you are telling that if i commit code to code.google anyone can take the code and sell it? (by writing my name at the top) |
| 00:39.31 | SRabbelier | isaacd: correct |
| 00:39.57 | isaacd | SRabbelier: thanks for verifying |
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| 00:40.50 | SRabbelier | isaacd: you did research yourself after I pointed you to the faq, that's enough for me :) |
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| 00:41.42 | chx | GHOP is teh shit. |
| 00:42.03 | chx | While we had success with Summer of Code too, GHOP blew us away |
| 00:42.23 | chx | we got brighter and harder working kids than i could ever imagine for the project |
| 00:42.24 | SRabbelier | chx: oh? |
| 00:42.31 | SRabbelier | chx: that's awesome :) |
| 00:42.40 | chx | and eventually they brought their fathers too :) |
| 00:42.45 | SRabbelier | chx: did you blog about it on the gospo blog? :D |
| 00:42.46 | chx | so far, that happened to two |
| 00:42.54 | SRabbelier | chx: lol, that's cool |
| 00:43.03 | chx | Well, about Bruce and Jim, I think I should blog them |
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| 00:43.29 | chx | Honestly, when i first Jimmy's father coding for Drupal, I thought Jimmy took on a second nick for whatever reason |
| 00:43.39 | chx | I only believed them when I met them in person at DrupalCon :p |
| 00:44.28 | SRabbelier | chx: hhaha, brilliant |
| 00:44.58 | chx | and he written a module everyone was dead convinced to be impossible to be codeable. |
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| 00:50.58 | chx | yeah,those GHOP kids, one of them just timed very well himself and became an SoC student too and by now, he is in the core MAINTAINERS.txt and normally it takes years on years of hard work to get in there and he did it in what seven months? yah. |
| 00:51.18 | chx | where do they breed these kids , i wonder :p |
| 00:52.23 | antarus | chx: in the land of 'people with too much free time' we call high school? :) |
| 00:52.32 | chx | come on |
| 00:52.58 | chx | most high schoolers are happy to pimp their myspace/facebook pages and thats where their computer literacy ends |
| 00:53.03 | antarus | yes |
| 00:53.12 | antarus | and then there are high schoolers who go to the olympics |
| 00:53.14 | chx | they usually do not go on and write and operate distributed testing framework... |
| 00:53.17 | antarus | how are these GHOP kids any different? |
| 00:53.44 | chx | I guess the difference is that i know them in person and work with them day by day? |
| 00:54.16 | chx | allow me to be amazed by them :) |
| 00:54.28 | chx | most GHOP participants did not stick w/ the project either |
| 00:54.32 | chx | so they are somewhat special |
| 00:54.43 | chx | yes, surely there are even brighter/harder working etc |
| 00:54.50 | lh | have fun y'al, i'm off to ready myself for a bday shindig |
| 00:54.51 | chx | that does not stop me to be amazed by these :) |
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| 01:05.59 | philip_ | any ideas or guidelines for testing potential students on the programming language they will be working with? |
| 01:06.51 | ojwb | "submit a patch" seems quite popular |
| 01:07.06 | ojwb | that also checks they have a development environment set up, and can work it |
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| 01:07.33 | ojwb | there have been tales of students taking weeks of coding time to get that far for one reason or another |
| 01:08.12 | philip_ | doesn't really tell me if they are a capable programmer in language X |
| 01:08.33 | ojwb | well, it does if your application is written in X |
| 01:08.36 | JeffM | give them an asignment in X |
| 01:08.43 | philip_ | not requiring ninja skills, but you know... some level |
| 01:09.38 | ojwb | the problem with "implement quicksort in X", etc is that there's a thousand solutions on the web for most languages |
| 01:09.56 | JeffM | not like that, have them make some mod to your project |
| 01:10.07 | JeffM | "make that thing do this thing" |
| 01:10.30 | ojwb | well, that's what I was suggesting |
| 01:10.36 | JeffM | even if it's not something you intend to use, just so you know they are competent enough to work with your codebase |
| 01:10.59 | JeffM | if you leave it as "submit a patch" most will waste all the time looking for the "perfect" patch to impress you |
| 01:11.14 | ojwb | oh, I didn't mean that's all you tell them |
| 01:11.14 | JeffM | where if you just say "make it output the lines of text backwards" |
| 01:11.18 | JeffM | something stupid |
| 01:11.40 | ojwb | just summarising the idea in a phrase |
| 01:11.45 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:11.45 | philip_ | most of our ideas involve new projects, with no pre-existing codebase |
| 01:11.54 | JeffM | many proejcts are doiong just "submit a patch' |
| 01:11.57 | ojwb | what's the org? |
| 01:12.05 | philip_ | php |
| 01:12.11 | ojwb | I think that's too vague if it is all you say |
| 01:12.18 | JeffM | and what languages do you want to know if they know? |
| 01:12.25 | philip_ | well, i did the classic "submit a patch" too :) |
| 01:13.04 | philip_ | a specific task about a specific project sounds like a good idea |
| 01:13.22 | JeffM | then they don't waste time on the what, and you can see how well they take direction |
| 01:13.29 | JeffM | and how they communicate if they run into trouble |
| 01:15.46 | nuba | what about "i have this thing here, please implement that design pattern here doing this and that?" |
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| 01:16.14 | JeffM | that can work if it dosn't take them too long |
| 01:16.26 | nuba | they will use googling skills, if they dont know about patterns |
| 01:16.27 | JeffM | you don't want to make them think that you are pusing for real work for free |
| 01:16.40 | JeffM | as not all of them will get in :0 |
| 01:17.13 | nuba | and they will need to have some hability with the language to get that going, if you dont ask for a lecture textbook example |
| 01:18.13 | nuba | i like the idea of "i have this and that code, modify or fill in some bits such that this and that works" |
| 01:18.49 | dhoclone_plan9 | Man, after a $100 dinner (with an $11 beer), this bud light feels wrong. |
| 01:18.53 | nuba | cause it relates quite well with what will be done after they (we, students) get enrolled and start working |
| 01:19.31 | dhoclone_plan9 | (In my own defense, I didn't buy it, it's leftover from a party; some friends bought it <_<) |
| 01:20.01 | dhoclone_plan9 | SRabbelier: Thanks for the comments; if there's any other insight I can provide, let me know. |
| 01:20.21 | SRabbelier | dhoclone_plan9: which one? :P |
| 01:20.55 | dhoclone_plan9 | The one I filed, obv. ;) |
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| 01:23.44 | SRabbelier | dhoclone_plan9: pfff :P |
| 01:23.47 | SRabbelier | dhoclone_plan9: which one is it :P |
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| 01:46.57 | Sepho | hi everybody! |
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| 01:51.34 | rkatiyar | hello |
| 01:52.18 | kaiyi | hey man what up |
| 01:52.51 | rkatiyar | woking on my application |
| 01:53.08 | kaiyi | listening to last fm |
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| 02:23.14 | allen | hi, all |
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| 02:25.51 | Chani | do I really need to repeat all my contact details in the proposal form, or can mentors see my name, email, etc. that I entered when I registered? |
| 02:26.55 | nuba | heh this reminds me of BUREAUCRACY, that interactive fiction game from ages ago... |
| 02:26.58 | Sepho | hi allen |
| 02:27.08 | nuba | about same timeframe as A Mind Forever Voyaging |
| 02:28.14 | ojwb | written by Douglas Adams I believe |
| 02:28.23 | nuba | yeah |
| 02:28.23 | ojwb | though I may be confused |
| 02:28.45 | nuba | i only started playing, gave up when presented with the 5th form or so |
| 02:28.56 | r0bby | /jo/jo |
| 02:28.56 | ojwb | Chani: we only see your "link id", nothing from the other form |
| 02:28.58 | r0bby | er crap |
| 02:29.03 | r0bby | that is not what you think |
| 02:29.50 | ojwb | oh, we see your real name in the list too |
| 02:30.13 | allen | the mentor can review the application that I submitted ,right? |
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| 02:31.10 | ojwb | yes, though we don't get notified about new applications |
| 02:31.17 | ojwb | so you might need to tell them to look! |
| 02:32.04 | allen | ojwb: I've sent email to the mentor, but still haven't received any reply.. |
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| 02:32.28 | allen | ojwb: it's a few days before... |
| 02:32.55 | allen | I am looking forward to get feedback from the mentor... |
| 02:33.08 | Chani | so... can we edit after submitting, with this thing? |
| 02:33.14 | ojwb | Chani: yes |
| 02:33.27 | ojwb | allen: I can't say why they've not looked |
| 02:33.27 | Chani | hmm. well, that's a bonus |
| 02:33.31 | ojwb | but I guess be patient |
| 02:33.45 | allen | :) |
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| 02:55.34 | etele | !orgbylang |
| 02:55.34 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 03:11.41 | glaksmono | hi everyone |
| 03:11.43 | glaksmono | i got some pictures |
| 03:11.45 | glaksmono | for all of you |
| 03:11.50 | glaksmono | i just hosted GSoC info talk today |
| 03:11.50 | glaksmono | http://picasaweb.google.com/gradyfausta/GoogleSummerOfCode2009# |
| 03:11.54 | glaksmono | take a look ;) |
| 03:12.48 | glaksmono | no one here? :O |
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| 03:17.13 | mriz | cool pics :D |
| 03:17.19 | glaksmono | thx :P |
| 03:18.02 | mriz | :D |
| 03:18.26 | mriz | I'm excited because this is the first time I'm trying to particate |
| 03:18.28 | mriz | :) |
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| 03:19.13 | glaksmono | yay, good for you :) |
| 03:20.52 | mriz | This classroom is so high tech, where is this place? |
| 03:20.54 | mriz | California? |
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| 03:21.54 | glaksmono | yeah! |
| 03:21.57 | glaksmono | Cal State Los angeles |
| 03:22.05 | glaksmono | www.calstatela.edu |
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| 03:23.35 | mriz | cool |
| 03:24.31 | thiagoss | quick question, did any of you mention gsoc at linkedin? (in case you participated in previous years) |
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| 03:26.18 | glaksmono | yeah |
| 03:26.19 | glaksmono | i do |
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| 03:34.22 | alert_every1 | hello to all |
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| 03:38.56 | pi31415926535 | my authentication keeps failing on code.google using svn what am i doing wrong? |
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| 03:40.00 | ojwb | this isn't a help channel for code.google |
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| 03:40.18 | pi31415926535 | ojwb: is there a channel for it? |
| 03:40.25 | pi31415926535 | this is the closest i can get |
| 03:40.30 | ojwb | I think they have a google group |
| 03:40.33 | pi31415926535 | + the code is for gsoc |
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| 03:42.26 | Edgar | hello |
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| 03:43.58 | mib_k25ku98h | hello |
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| 03:46.44 | Edgar | I'm a student from Dominican Republic, can I participate in GSoC? |
| 03:47.24 | Traveler1 | sure you can .. |
| 03:47.34 | Traveler1 | !anyone |
| 03:47.34 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 03:48.00 | Edgar | ok, so I'm in time to apply |
| 03:48.29 | mib_k25ku98h | im a Junior in highschool, so.. |
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| 03:48.45 | Edgar | ok |
| 03:49.16 | Edgar | are there prizes in this contest? |
| 03:49.33 | mib_k25ku98h | any ideas as to what i sohuld apply for? |
| 03:49.48 | devilsadvocate | mib_4y07kr, i think you need to be 18+ (not sure) |
| 03:50.01 | devilsadvocate | mib_k25ku98h, ^ |
| 03:50.13 | glaksmono | yes, you need to be 18 or above |
| 03:50.15 | devilsadvocate | mib_4y07kr, sorry |
| 03:50.20 | mib_k25ku98h | eh, sux |
| 03:50.22 | glaksmono | if not, then go for GHOP |
| 03:50.26 | blast007 | Edgar: It's not a "contest" |
| 03:50.29 | glaksmono | i think they would allow you |
| 03:50.33 | glaksmono | ask LH :P |
| 03:50.38 | glaksmono | or read more docs |
| 03:50.40 | glaksmono | about GHOP |
| 03:50.49 | mib_k25ku98h | yeah, ill give that a look, thx |
| 03:51.10 | alert_every1 | hello all |
| 03:51.27 | alert_every1 | well i m engineer student , i want to participate in gsoc |
| 03:51.46 | glaksmono | alert_every1: and? |
| 03:51.46 | alert_every1 | can any one tell me very basic requirement |
| 03:51.54 | alert_every1 | to participate |
| 03:51.55 | glaksmono | alert_every1: read faqs |
| 03:51.57 | glaksmono | !faq |
| 03:51.57 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 03:52.09 | glaksmono | !reqs |
| 03:52.09 | socinfo | Error: "reqs" is not a valid command. |
| 03:52.12 | glaksmono | !requirements |
| 03:52.12 | socinfo | Error: "requirements" is not a valid command. |
| 03:52.15 | glaksmono | !gsoc |
| 03:52.15 | socinfo | Error: "gsoc" is not a valid command. |
| 03:52.17 | glaksmono | !hello |
| 03:52.18 | socinfo | Error: "hello" is not a valid command. |
| 03:52.20 | glaksmono | !glaksmono |
| 03:52.20 | socinfo | Error: "glaksmono" is not a valid command. |
| 03:52.22 | glaksmono | lol |
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| 03:54.11 | unimauro | !timeline |
| 03:54.11 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 03:54.29 | unimauro | !sugar |
| 03:54.29 | socinfo | Error: "sugar" is not a valid command. |
| 03:54.34 | unimauro | !blog |
| 03:54.34 | socinfo | "blog" is http://google-opensource.blogspot.com |
| 03:56.44 | Edgar | !test |
| 03:56.44 | socinfo | Error: "test" is not a valid command. |
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| 03:59.48 | ojwb | the bot is not a toy |
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| 04:02.26 | Jubb | hello |
| 04:02.39 | Edgar | hi |
| 04:02.59 | Jubb | I would really like to get involved |
| 04:03.16 | Jubb | but I don't have any idea what I would like to write |
| 04:03.23 | Jubb | common problem? |
| 04:06.44 | alert_every1 | hello , i have just fill the gsoc student form , now whats my next step should be ? , |
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| 04:59.43 | Omar87 | Hi |
| 05:00.39 | Omar87 | I'm very very interested in participating in GSoC, but there's this small problem that I'm concerned about. |
| 05:01.15 | Omar87 | Do I have to be in the U.S. to be able to participate? |
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| 05:02.06 | Omar87 | hello? |
| 05:04.58 | ojwb | is pretty sure the faq says |
| 05:05.12 | ojwb | but no you don't |
| 05:05.30 | ojwb | please read the faq before asking more questions |
| 05:05.56 | Omar87 | Okay, sorry for the inconvenience. |
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| 05:08.04 | unimauro | !faq |
| 05:08.05 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 06:14.50 | vinodsral | hi any openssh mentors or commiters here? |
| 06:15.24 | rwcr | !anyone |
| 06:15.24 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 07:41.55 | kblin | oh wow.. MS' ipv6 headers are so non-RFC |
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| 07:43.11 | easwar | !orgs |
| 07:43.11 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 07:44.14 | Upthorn | the IPv6 RFC is kinda a failed attempt at something that could have been useful, imo |
| 07:44.24 | Landon | argh |
| 07:44.26 | Upthorn | also what the hell happened to IPv5? |
| 07:44.32 | Landon | bcarlyon: you have an eeepc, right? |
| 07:44.47 | hwked | should i submit my application even if i m nt sure it's my final edit? |
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| 07:45.02 | scorche | kblin: did you see how they broke round-robin DNS? |
| 07:45.06 | Upthorn | was it just skipped outright, or was the spec such a horrible mess that nobody ever even considered it? |
| 07:45.20 | hwked | because I can change it even after submission |
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| 07:45.59 | llnz | Upthorn: ipv5 was a very early (early 90's, iirc) expriemental inter networking protocol |
| 07:46.16 | llnz | noone ever used it |
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| 07:54.34 | kblin | scorche: no |
| 07:55.58 | kblin | scorche: I just looked at the in6_addr structure, and as opposed to the rfc, which defines it as a union of 16 uint8_t, 4 uint32_t and 2 uint64_t, they define it as union of 16 uint8_t or 8 uint16_t |
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| 07:57.11 | kblin | Upthorn: it's not failed.. arguably it's design by committee, and thus less than ideal, but it's much, much better than this "let's save some IPv4 addresses and break networking by using NAT" stuff we're currently doing |
| 07:58.27 | scorche | kblin: http://drplokta.livejournal.com/109267.html |
| 07:58.57 | Upthorn | kblin: ipv6 has been a specified standard for 11 years, and has yet to see any widespread usage |
| 07:59.33 | Upthorn | I would argue that this is a reasonable definition of failure for a standard. |
| 08:00.21 | thiago_home | kblin: the effect would be the minimum alignment to be different |
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| 08:01.38 | Upthorn | as for a standard to succeed, it must be used. |
| 08:02.09 | kblin | Upthorn: it is used |
| 08:02.20 | kblin | Upthorn: read the UMTS specs |
| 08:02.33 | Upthorn | by less than 1% of all users even in the highest penetration areas. |
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| 08:04.03 | thiago_home | it's being mandated into use |
| 08:05.02 | kblin | Upthorn: donno, most vista users use it in their LANs |
| 08:05.23 | kblin | it's just that most ISPs are too cheap to buy new software for their ciscos |
| 08:05.25 | Upthorn | kblin: and vista is the least popular OS microsoft has ever released. |
| 08:05.53 | Upthorn | at the current rate |
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| 08:05.58 | scorche | and how are you gauging "popularity"? |
| 08:06.44 | Upthorn | scorche: well sales of new computers slowed as a result of the release of vista and major computer manufacturers having pre-installation agreements. |
| 08:07.07 | scorche | i dont see how that is a metric of vista's popularity |
| 08:07.51 | Upthorn | people's refusal to buy new computers specifically to avoid the OS change is not a good metric of OS popularity? |
| 08:07.54 | kblin | Upthorn: I also doubt that's because of IPv6 |
| 08:08.04 | Upthorn | kblin: no it probably isn't |
| 08:08.04 | kblin | it's because it's a slow piece of crap |
| 08:08.16 | scorche | Upthorn: there are any number of variables that could be the cause of that |
| 08:08.26 | thiago_home | I doubt people refuse to buy a new computer because of the OS it comes with |
| 08:08.45 | thiago_home | if they don't like the OS, they format and reinstall or they ask the tech-savvy friend everyone has to do that |
| 08:09.12 | thiago_home | I've seen that happen to many Vista- and Linux-bundled computers |
| 08:09.37 | Upthorn | scorche: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#Competition_with_Windows_XP |
| 08:09.54 | thiago_home | Vista's failure stems from the fact that Microsoft failed to prove it as superior to XP |
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| 08:09.59 | thiago_home | especially to businesses |
| 08:10.30 | scorche | Upthorn: i still dont see anything there that makes vista "the least popular OS microsoft has ever released" |
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| 08:10.50 | kblin | anyway, off shopping with the gf |
| 08:10.53 | Upthorn | scorche: it has, percentage-wise, the weakest sales figures. |
| 08:10.58 | kblin | see you next year |
| 08:11.14 | Upthorn | kblin: the point I was making about IPv6 being failed |
| 08:11.22 | scorche | Upthorn: and how are you defining that?...percentage of what?...sales of what? |
| 08:11.28 | kblin | it's frigging not failed |
| 08:11.30 | Upthorn | is that it won't be fully supported by the time it is needed. |
| 08:11.38 | kblin | pff |
| 08:11.43 | thiago_home | or, rather, since Vista hasn't succeeded, it's not helping IPv6 |
| 08:11.43 | kblin | is off for real now |
| 08:11.55 | Upthorn | IPv4 will be exhausted by the end of 2011 |
| 08:11.55 | kblin | you're not proving your point so far |
| 08:11.58 | kblin | and I need to be off |
| 08:12.04 | scorche | either of your points |
| 08:12.06 | Upthorn | and at the current rate of IPv6 penetration |
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| 08:12.25 | Upthorn | It won't have mainstream ISP support for... decades |
| 08:12.41 | scorche | is that a guess? |
| 08:12.45 | thiago_home | you also have to understand that, while there are workarounds for IPv4 shortage, the workarounds will be used |
| 08:12.57 | thiago_home | it's not until exhaustion that IPv6 uptake will start to rise |
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| 08:13.15 | thiago_home | in other words, it needs to get worse before it gets better |
| 08:13.33 | Upthorn | I suspect, however, that an incremental upgrade to IPv4 would been much better supported by this point |
| 08:14.38 | Upthorn | because it is usually easier to retrofit existing systems to support a new thing than to build a totally new system to replace it |
| 08:15.01 | easwar | !orgs |
| 08:15.01 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 08:15.15 | thiago_home | Upthorn: it's easier for acceptance, sure |
| 08:15.34 | thiago_home | but if you want to fix flaws in the design and just basically redesign, you need a new thing |
| 08:16.24 | Upthorn | well yes, if you want to completely redesign the system you have to build a new system |
| 08:17.10 | Upthorn | but was a complete redesign of IPv4 really necessary? And isn't it somewhat ridiculous to expect people to destroy the entire IP routing system and put a new one in its place? |
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| 08:17.41 | scorche | yes; no |
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| 08:18.31 | Upthorn | scorche: how incredibly convincing. |
| 08:19.00 | scorche | i thought so |
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| 08:20.33 | thiago_home | technically speking, there's nothing stopping IPv6 |
| 08:20.41 | thiago_home | most OS support it, most routers support it |
| 08:20.49 | thiago_home | it's a social and economic problem |
| 08:20.58 | Upthorn | I agree. |
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| 08:21.45 | Upthorn | my perspective, though, is that specifications like that should take such economic feasibility concerns into account |
| 08:22.23 | Upthorn | let me approach this from a different angle: |
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| 08:23.25 | Upthorn | Would you agree that a successful specification should be in place before it is required? |
| 08:24.08 | Upthorn | and |
| 08:24.28 | Upthorn | Would you agree that IPv6 will not be in place until some time after it is required? |
| 08:24.36 | thiago_home | Upthorn: yes |
| 08:24.46 | thiago_home | that's what I said before: it will get worse before it gets better |
| 08:24.57 | Upthorn | you agree on the second question |
| 08:25.08 | thiago_home | it will only get really taken up when we have a crisis in our hands |
| 08:25.08 | Upthorn | which means that if you argue IPv6 isn't failed, you disagree on the first |
| 08:25.44 | thiago_home | in light of your questions, I wouldn't say it failed |
| 08:25.54 | thiago_home | it would be right on track |
| 08:25.54 | Upthorn | my point of view, is that a successful specification would prevent such crisis entirely |
| 08:26.03 | thiago_home | that would be preferred, yes |
| 08:26.37 | Upthorn | IPv6 will not, and hence is not successful. Non-successful = failed. |
| 08:27.04 | Upthorn | therefore, I say it is failed. |
| 08:27.26 | llnz | no specification will make people do things that they don't think they need to do *yet* |
| 08:27.28 | Upthorn | Your point of contention is actually my definition of failure |
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| 08:28.31 | Upthorn | llnz: Suppose the IPv6 specification had just been to increase addresses from IPv4's 32-bits to 48-bits |
| 08:28.44 | llnz | Upthorn: same problem |
| 08:29.04 | llnz | any change to the size of ip addresses causes a lot of flow on changes |
| 08:29.37 | Upthorn | you think the situation would be the same, then. |
| 08:30.36 | llnz | i ran ipv6 in 2004, and even ported the thousand parsec server to support it |
| 08:30.49 | thiago_home | has been doing ipv6 since 2000 |
| 08:30.57 | llnz | i don't run ipv6 now because the ISP doesn't see the business case for it yet |
| 08:31.35 | Upthorn | doesn't do IPv6 because he doesn't run his own ISP, and it's complete overkill for local networking. |
| 08:31.49 | thiago_home | the reason why I don't do IPv6 is because the stupid ADSL2+ router I have doesn't do it properly |
| 08:31.57 | llnz | probably around network management and billing issues |
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| 08:32.48 | llnz | earth hour is over, time to turn the lights back on |
| 08:33.13 | thiago_home | GMT+13? |
| 08:33.17 | thiago_home | new zealand? |
| 08:33.30 | Upthorn | it seems a bit missing the point of earth hour to turn off the lights but leave all the computing on |
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| 08:34.02 | llnz | thiago_home: yes |
| 08:34.10 | s072122 | anybody consider applying for Berkman project? |
| 08:34.14 | llnz | Upthorn: neither |
| 08:34.30 | thiago_home | llnz: are you still in summer time? |
| 08:34.35 | llnz | i just want to see how low the power comumption could be |
| 08:34.50 | Upthorn | llnz: neither what? |
| 08:34.58 | llnz | thiago_home: yes, like most places it got extended this year |
| 08:35.20 | llnz | i can't see the point of earth hour either |
| 08:35.26 | thiago_home | ponders about North and South Hemispheres being in summer time at the same time |
| 08:35.39 | thiago_home | then again, there's snow outside |
| 08:35.47 | thiago_home | how can we have summer time when there's still snow outside? |
| 08:35.48 | llnz | thiago_home: it is a bit odd, yet |
| 08:35.56 | Upthorn | the point of earth hour is to reduce power consumption. |
| 08:36.12 | llnz | we should drop timezones all together and only use UTC |
| 08:36.21 | Upthorn | by having people turn off electric devices for an hour |
| 08:36.28 | llnz | Upthorn: that's only a small part |
| 08:36.58 | Upthorn | they specify lightbulbs, but 1 computer probably uses more power than most of the lightbulbs in your house combined... |
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| 08:37.02 | llnz | the main bit is to get govenment ministers in November to make a stronger climate change proposal |
| 08:37.19 | llnz | Upthorn: i only have a laptop here |
| 08:37.33 | p_l | Upthorn: IPv6 makes a lot of sense if you don't have normal LAN :D |
| 08:37.54 | Upthorn | p_l: well for a home lan it is overkill |
| 08:38.01 | thiago_home | my laptop uses 22 W |
| 08:38.05 | Upthorn | oh, ok |
| 08:38.15 | thiago_home | one incandescent lightbulb is 60 W or more |
| 08:38.18 | Upthorn | that is significantly better than mine |
| 08:38.22 | thiago_home | which is why i have those energy savers |
| 08:38.26 | thiago_home | 9 W, 18 W |
| 08:38.41 | Upthorn | I've been using energy saving bulbs for a while |
| 08:38.46 | p_l | Upthorn: Actually I have to set it up so that I'll have it in my lan... cause then I don't have to worry about "which ip range this net uses that I have to avoid?" with my VPNs |
| 08:39.11 | Upthorn | but recently my eyes go out of focus under compact fluorescent light |
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| 08:39.37 | Upthorn | I'm actually fairly concerned about this, because it never happened before about a week ago |
| 08:40.09 | Upthorn | but now I have to turn off all the CFLs in a room if I am to be able to read |
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| 08:43.49 | devvrat | !next |
| 08:43.49 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 08:44.18 | p_l | wonders how many powerlines will fail today |
| 08:46.36 | ojwb | realises he accidentally turned off his laptop, the tv, and most of the lights in the house for almost exactly the specified hour |
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| 08:47.20 | p_l | hehe. I'm waiting to see how many substations and powerlines are going to fail ^_^ |
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| 08:47.54 | casinaroyale | p_l: where are u ? |
| 08:48.06 | Upthorn | p_l: why would powerlines faile today? |
| 08:48.20 | thiago_home | spike when people turn everything back on |
| 08:48.25 | Upthorn | oh |
| 08:48.27 | p_l | yeah |
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| 08:48.57 | p_l | I doubt that most people who are doing this remember what impedance is... |
| 08:49.39 | p_l | or that turning electric stuff on creates a much bigger surge than normal usage... |
| 08:51.20 | Upthorn | p_l: is that true of all devices? |
| 08:51.52 | thiago_home | almost everything |
| 08:51.53 | p_l | Upthorn: yup |
| 08:52.37 | p_l | Upthorn: even a piece of cable has some impedance, although very very small... now, when you make a coil from it... or a capacitor... :D |
| 08:52.55 | thiago_home | but since I doubt people will turn off their refrigerators |
| 08:53.00 | ojwb | superconducting cables! |
| 08:53.15 | Upthorn | so things with fewer capacitors will cause less of a surge? |
| 08:53.49 | TacticalPenguin | The power lines wouldnt lose any maximum capacity from being used less than normal for a short period of time |
| 08:54.02 | TacticalPenguin | It would just be a dip in power usage |
| 08:54.05 | p_l | Upthorn: depends on their construction |
| 08:54.29 | p_l | TacticalPenguin: true. They won't even notice it much on the charts... now, the surge of _starting_ those devices back... |
| 08:54.43 | Upthorn | but the ratio of surge to normal usage differs by device? |
| 08:54.57 | ojwb | the power line drop seems unlikely to be less than the daily low |
| 08:55.21 | TacticalPenguin | Most people would turn one thing on at a time |
| 08:55.44 | p_l | Upthorn: yeah |
| 08:55.50 | Upthorn | okay |
| 08:56.03 | TacticalPenguin | Not make some big contraption to flip every switch simultaneously, unless they just leave all the power switches flipped and flip the breaker |
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| 08:56.50 | Upthorn | I think most people are more likely to flip off the light switches than the breaker |
| 08:57.05 | TacticalPenguin | but light switches are in different rooms |
| 08:57.05 | p_l | TacticalPenguin: The thing is, how those spikes will be in short time from other etc... |
| 08:57.34 | TacticalPenguin | p_l yes theyll be in short time from each other but then again throughout day to day normal life things are being turned on turned off all the time as well |
| 08:58.27 | p_l | TacticalPenguin: sure. I suppose however that local breakers and end substation will be hit... especially when something like university decides to switch off everything... |
| 08:59.12 | TacticalPenguin | but then of course in a university, the turning on of everything would be even more drawn out and not all at once |
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| 09:02.41 | Upthorn | well a university might be more likely just to use the breaker than most homes |
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| 09:03.41 | thiago_home | offices turn the lights on and off all at once |
| 09:03.59 | thiago_home | well, some offices |
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| 09:09.18 | ojwb | are you sure you aren't thinking of discotheques? |
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| 09:17.00 | easwar | heh |
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| 09:29.40 | Upthorn | !time |
| 09:29.40 | socinfo | "time" is http://tinyurl.com/dbxnmy |
| 09:30.07 | Upthorn | okay, that's what I thought. |
| 09:31.41 | easwar | heh |
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| 09:40.05 | Upthorn | namely, I am currently UTC-7 |
| 09:40.37 | easwar | I'm always UTC+0530 |
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| 09:41.10 | Upthorn | can never remember whether spring-forward is the beginning or ending of "daylight" time |
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| 09:47.24 | casinaroyale | Is it ok to say that I want to get started with open source and gsoc is the best way for that? |
| 09:48.03 | scorche | it certainly is one way... |
| 09:48.09 | easwar | casinaroyale, no,you don't need GSoC to get started with OSS |
| 09:48.35 | easwar | casinaroyale, you need GSoC to give you the impetus to get started with OSS :P |
| 09:48.42 | casinaroyale | scorche: will it be seen as a negative point as I dont have an entry into OSS |
| 09:49.18 | casinaroyale | easwar: ? |
| 09:49.20 | scorche | casinaroyale: not at all....many GSoC students are new to open source development |
| 09:49.34 | easwar | casinaroyale, j/k |
| 09:49.56 | casinaroyale | easwar: what is j/k ? |
| 09:50.02 | thiago_home | "just kidding" |
| 09:50.14 | easwar | thanks thiago |
| 09:50.18 | thiago_home | casinaroyale: put it this way: if you have OSS experience, it increases your chances |
| 09:50.29 | thiago_home | but not having it is not a detriment to you |
| 09:50.37 | thiago_home | most students accepted are first-timers |
| 09:51.14 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: thank you : |
| 09:51.16 | casinaroyale | :) |
| 09:51.48 | thiago_home | I would suggest you get started with OSS as soon as you can |
| 09:51.57 | thiago_home | if nothing else, it will improve your chances for next year |
| 09:52.12 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: sure |
| 09:55.11 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: So, what exactly do you look for in a proposal? |
| 09:55.32 | thiago_home | me? |
| 09:55.39 | thiago_home | I look for a student who knows what he's talking about |
| 09:55.51 | thiago_home | and a proposal that has any chance of succeeding |
| 09:56.08 | thiago_home | a student who looks like he's done some research (reading mailing list archives, contacting community) |
| 09:56.18 | thiago_home | a name that I know is a plus, but not necessary |
| 09:56.26 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: yes, succeeding as in |
| 09:56.33 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: ? |
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| 09:57.36 | thiago_home | as in "completing by the deadline" |
| 09:58.03 | thiago_home | if you propose to write an application that will design a new space shuttle in the three months you're given, I won't like it |
| 09:58.06 | ojwb | no single factor is the thing you have to have |
| 09:58.16 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: how would you go about assessing the technical skills of the student? |
| 09:58.22 | thiago_home | if you propose to write an application that will display "Hello, World", I won't like it either |
| 09:58.31 | thiago_home | casinaroyale: mostly guesswork |
| 09:58.42 | thiago_home | we can't know if the student has any skills |
| 09:58.58 | thiago_home | which is why prior experience gives you points |
| 09:59.21 | thiago_home | like I said, what we're looking for is a long-term contributor |
| 09:59.23 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: yes, I get it |
| 09:59.30 | ojwb | some orgs ask you to do something as a simple test of various skills |
| 09:59.56 | thiago_home | you may not complete your project, but if you tried hard and if it looks like you're going to stick around, we'll probably give you passing marks |
| 10:00.50 | casinaroyale | see, if I chose a haskell project and I have no previous project in haskell, but know it well ? |
| 10:01.18 | thiago_home | I have no clue about haskell either, but I imagine that the mentors to the organisation you apply to will know how to tell |
| 10:01.39 | thiago_home | if you come to me to work in C++ but you don't know what "virtual" does or what a "static_cast" is... |
| 10:02.14 | casinaroyale | yes, but how do you know that from just the proposal? |
| 10:02.28 | thiago_home | we take chances |
| 10:03.04 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: fair enough :) |
| 10:03.08 | thiago_home | and if it doesn't work, it doesn't |
| 10:03.33 | thiago_home | we have to trust people |
| 10:03.55 | thiago_home | and a well-written, well-researched proposal gains a lot of points in getting us to trust you |
| 10:04.25 | casinaroyale | yes I get it. Thats what I am counting on |
| 10:04.28 | casinaroyale | :) |
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| 10:05.06 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: and ojwb Thanks for the info |
| 10:05.23 | thiago_home | "I want build a new space shuttle. For that, I'll divide my time as follows: in the first month, I will review the specs of the current shuttle. For the next two, I will concurrently write the software to calculate the best geometry and run it. I have access to the NASA lab to help me test prototypes" |
| 10:05.37 | thiago_home | "what I will not to do is actually assemble a 1:1 scale prototype" |
| 10:06.10 | benc_ | whoa |
| 10:06.13 | casinaroyale | so the roadmap carries a lot of points? |
| 10:06.15 | benc_ | minicom has kermit as a dependency |
| 10:06.17 | devvrat | haha |
| 10:06.18 | benc_ | in macports |
| 10:06.22 | benc_ | ooops wrong channel |
| 10:06.22 | benc_ | heh |
| 10:06.24 | thiago_home | casinaroyale: yes |
| 10:06.38 | thiago_home | tell us how you plan to achieve your goal. Tell us what you will not do. |
| 10:06.48 | thiago_home | whether you'll stick to the roadmap or not is another business. |
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| 10:07.00 | thiago_home | what we want to know is whether you think you're capable of achieving your goal. |
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| 10:07.26 | thiago_home | and PLEASE write well |
| 10:07.37 | thiago_home | that means not too short, not too long; use a spell checker |
| 10:08.08 | thiago_home | don't mistake "your" for "you're", "its" for "it's". Try not to mistake "loose" for "lose" |
| 10:08.35 | casinaroyale | thiago_home: yes, lol |
| 10:08.56 | bobbens | meh, just write it in your natural language, use babelfish to translate to chinese and then to english :) |
| 10:09.12 | thiago_home | lol |
| 10:09.29 | thiago_home | in other words: if you don't spend time in writing it, why do you want us to spend time reading it? |
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| 10:22.11 | GnuBoi | do one need to be C/C++ programmer to apply for gsoc |
| 10:22.27 | GnuBoi | i only know Visual Basic in Windows and KBasic in Linux |
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| 10:23.19 | smtms | GnuBoi, there are participating open-source projects using Python, Java, Perl, and other languages |
| 10:23.59 | GnuBoi | I only know BASIC, is there any project that needs it |
| 10:24.03 | smtms | GnuBoi, I suspect there's no project using Visual Basic |
| 10:24.11 | GnuBoi | KBAsic |
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| 10:25.58 | smtms | GnuBoi, you should concentrate on your education, including learning a new programming language |
| 10:26.10 | GnuBoi | oh |
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| 10:33.58 | meindian523 | thiago_home, thanks for the advice on applications |
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| 11:20.28 | p_l | dho_plan9: I think I've got an idea how to do dynamic loading on plan9... a little weird, though |
| 11:20.52 | srna_pavol | Hello, what do you thing is the best length of the application fot GSoC |
| 11:21.39 | p_l | srna_pavol: one that doesn't evoke a tl;dr response when you see it |
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| 11:24.48 | blast007 | srna_pavol: work with the mentoring org to see what they want exactly |
| 11:25.03 | blast007 | also, after they comment on your application, you'll be able to edit it |
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| 12:08.13 | Dario_Andres | Hi!I have a small question my condition to be accepted as gsoc student: I'm currently a student of one university.. but I'm now switching to another one.. I will have to take some common classes which are not related to the university subject first (so I don't know if by the Gsoc time I'm going to be considered a university "student") (or during the "switching time") |
| 12:09.22 | haoyu | !faqs |
| 12:09.22 | socinfo | Error: "faqs" is not a valid command. |
| 12:09.25 | haoyu | !faq |
| 12:09.26 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 12:09.34 | haoyu | Dario_Andres, read this |
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| 12:15.44 | Dario_Andres | I already read that page some time ago but I didn't get the proper answer.. I suppose I can be considered as "enrolled"/"accept" ... well.. anyways you can always reject me later :) |
| 12:16.16 | Dario_Andres | thanks haoyu |
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| 12:21.08 | HanzZ | !next |
| 12:21.08 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 12:40.15 | neary | :o |
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| 12:48.03 | homunq | !mentors |
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| 12:48.07 | homunq | !advice |
| 12:48.07 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
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| 12:49.06 | homunq | wondering what to do with applications that are obvious bullshit. |
| 12:49.22 | devvrat | :) |
| 12:49.43 | devvrat | I can guess your position then |
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| 12:52.14 | homunq | I mean, one thing is weak applications, and another is an application that seems to think that Sugar (a python-based desktop) is a php-based CMS. |
| 12:52.30 | devvrat | :D |
| 12:52.37 | bobbens | wait what? sugar isn't a php-based CMS?!?! |
| 12:52.41 | Mek | perhaps he just submitted to the wrong org accidentally? |
| 12:52.59 | devvrat | ya that could be a possibility |
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| 13:12.52 | maxriskfactor | !orgsbylang |
| 13:12.53 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 13:13.01 | easwar | there you go |
| 13:13.12 | easwar | don't mind the work in progress |
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| 14:15.57 | Traveler1 | hi :) |
| 14:16.16 | easwar | hello Traveler1 |
| 14:16.38 | derkaiser | hello all~ |
| 14:16.45 | Traveler1 | hi easwar |
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| 14:18.47 | Traveler1 | !anyone |
| 14:18.47 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 14:20.29 | easwar | !orgs |
| 14:20.29 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 14:24.12 | nuba | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:29.02 | devvrat | can one org see student's application for some org |
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| 14:31.05 | borja | devvrat: Do you mean if an organization can see the applications submitted by a student to that organization? Or to other organizations? |
| 14:31.06 | easwar | how do you delete a created profile? |
| 14:31.13 | easwar | in melange? |
| 14:31.48 | devvrat | borja: other |
| 14:32.06 | borja | devvrat: then the answer is no |
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| 14:33.31 | devvrat | thanks |
| 14:34.21 | borja | easwar: I don't think that's possible, but you can try asking in #melange |
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| 14:38.53 | lyaunzbe | Hey, is anyone here really proficient with django and willing to help me out with a trivial problem? |
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| 14:39.52 | borja | lyaunzbe: If your question is not GSoC-specific, #django might be a better place to find help |
| 14:40.22 | lyaunzbe | Well, ive been asking this question in that channel for days now and it seems like nobody wants to answer it :( |
| 14:42.05 | gsoc | lyaunzbe: all the channels say 'don't ask to ask,just ask' |
| 14:42.10 | lyaunzbe | My problem is that i have a django app located at mysite.com/blog/. So i go to log in to the admin, at mysite.com/blog/admin/ and when I enter my username and password it redirects me to mysite.com/admin/, which is a non-existant url. How do i fix this? |
| 14:42.19 | lyaunzbe | gsoc: sorry i was busy typing it up |
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| 14:42.58 | borja | lyaunzbe: maybe you can try a django mailing list? it seems like asking your question is less likely to be answered in a non-django-related channel (like this one) |
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| 14:43.04 | gsoc | and 'nobody answers to answer,just don't answer' :P |
| 14:43.09 | dhoclone_plan9 | lyaunzbe: you need to set the ADMIN_URL or whatever the thing is in the config, and that's discussed in the howto. |
| 14:43.40 | dhoclone_plan9 | (Nobody's answering because it's on the first or second page of the `my first django app' thing) |
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| 14:47.47 | ThomasWaldmann | do we have some other python-based project mentors/admins here? |
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| 14:48.15 | ThomasWaldmann | is from MoinMoin wiki |
| 14:48.51 | Traveler1 | sorry again for asking. |
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| 14:49.41 | hellogsoc | any mentors here looking for web development & c,c++,tk based software developers stuents? |
| 14:49.51 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: yup |
| 14:49.56 | hellogsoc | i know i can look at the list.. but there are huge list.. |
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| 14:50.27 | kblin | ThomasWaldmann: though only sub-projects are in python |
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| 14:54.04 | ThomasWaldmann | kblin: query? |
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| 14:56.11 | Sepho | hi everybody! |
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| 15:11.53 | chx | Q. How do I contact a student? I am both admin & mentor and yet i see no way to drop an email. I must be blind. |
| 15:12.13 | mneptok | chx: did you not receive the crate of homing pigeons? |
| 15:12.19 | easwar | lol |
| 15:12.20 | Ori_B | chx: I think the usual way is to comment on their application |
| 15:12.21 | borja | heh |
| 15:12.23 | easwar | roflmao |
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| 15:12.59 | chx | mneptok: not yet. I am flying to SFO in April , I might check w/ Googleplex for my allotment. |
| 15:14.37 | mneptok | chx: i think squab is on the menu in most cmapus cafes next week. you'd best hurry. |
| 15:14.44 | mneptok | *campus |
| 15:15.57 | mneptok | chx: MySQL conf, by any chance? |
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| 15:20.17 | gsoc | !lol |
| 15:20.17 | socinfo | Error: "lol" is not a valid command. |
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| 15:22.22 | mneptok | sounds like a SOC project to me! |
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| 15:34.12 | chx | mneptok: no, MySQL conf is very expensive |
| 15:34.49 | mneptok | chx: work pays for me, so ... |
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| 15:35.58 | chx | mneptok: well thats diff |
| 15:37.25 | mneptok | chx: keeps me from having to actually look at the price and need a heart bypass |
| 15:38.05 | easwar | mneptok, you can't have a heart bypass |
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| 15:38.19 | easwar | the only heart bypass you can have is a heart lung machine |
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| 15:38.50 | `jb | Morning for those of you on the east coast. |
| 15:38.56 | mneptok | easwar: go to a Maker's Faire with some aquarium gear. they'll hook you up. |
| 15:39.02 | mneptok | (quite literally) |
| 15:39.06 | amit8-89 | !faqs |
| 15:39.06 | socinfo | Error: "faqs" is not a valid command. |
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| 15:39.09 | TacticalPenguin | morning for those of us in the US, either coastt |
| 15:39.10 | amit8-89 | !faq |
| 15:39.10 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 15:39.36 | easwar | mneptok, is that practical? |
| 15:39.47 | `jb | Well its Saturday; I'm assuming west coasters are still sleeping off the previous night. |
| 15:40.01 | mneptok | easwar: my cut-rate health plan says so |
| 15:40.49 | easwar | mneptok, heh |
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| 15:42.10 | tntcoda | has submitted 2 proposals, but cannot decide if finding a 3rd project to apply for is a bad idea or not :S I really want to be flipping bits rather than burgers this summer :( |
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| 15:45.22 | `jb | tntcoda, torn between two projects? Or just increasing your chances? |
| 15:46.15 | tntcoda | Im very interested in both projects, one slightly more so. But both might be quite popular choices so im torn between increasing my chances futher or calling it a day |
| 15:46.43 | `jb | I have two in mind as well that I'd be interested in. |
| 15:47.30 | tntcoda | difficult decisions :p |
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| 15:50.59 | chaz1 | I'm a first semester CS student. Looking at most the project suggestions, and They're way over my head. I am thinking of taking some grunt work, porting numpy/scipy to python3. Is this feasible for someone with limited programming experience? |
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| 15:57.45 | sivaji | is away: I'm busy |
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| 15:58.43 | Garuma | !next |
| 15:58.43 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
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| 16:07.43 | RainCT | Hi |
| 16:07.57 | chaz1 | hi |
| 16:08.14 | RainCT | Can baccalaureate students apply to GSoC? |
| 16:08.46 | toni_marie | I don't see why not |
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| 16:08.51 | toni_marie | maybe it's in the FAQ |
| 16:08.55 | toni_marie | !faq |
| 16:08.55 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 16:10.15 | toni_marie | apparently it's not in the faq :) |
| 16:10.27 | chaz1 | heh |
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| 16:11.53 | RainCT | I saw the question in a forum or somewhere (can't remember where) and the answer was "just", but as I can't see it mentioned anywhere else.. |
| 16:12.26 | RainCT | What would I choose in the Degree field in the application, then? Undergraduate? |
| 16:13.14 | ahuillet | what's a baccalaureate student? |
| 16:13.24 | chaz1 | same as undergrad |
| 16:13.29 | chaz1 | international? |
| 16:13.36 | aa | ha, Yuval Levy is my new hero |
| 16:14.01 | RainCT | No, Spanish |
| 16:14.45 | RainCT | It's two years after compulsory high school, and is required to enter university (well, it's one of the ways to go there) |
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| 16:15.51 | ahuillet | RainCT : then I guess it counts as undergrad |
| 16:16.12 | ahuillet | RainCT : if you're a student, you're eligible, practically. |
| 16:16.18 | chx | RainCT: are you 18 yrs old? |
| 16:16.24 | ahuillet | oh yes + that |
| 16:16.25 | RainCT | chx: Yes |
| 16:16.34 | ahuillet | should know, he could not apply in 2005 because of not being 18 |
| 16:17.07 | chx | RainCT: and then " You are eligible to apply if you are enrolled in an accredited pre-university educational program provided you meet all of the other eligibility requirements." |
| 16:17.11 | chx | RainCT: that's what the FAQ says |
| 16:17.14 | toni_marie | you're undergraduate then |
| 16:17.23 | RainCT | Okay, thanks :) |
| 16:18.02 | chx | i guess teh acceredited is there so that shady people can't create a 'foo univ corp' in some interesting country just to enroll to gsoc... |
| 16:18.06 | ashishpaliwal | what is the link for application samples from 2008 |
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| 16:20.19 | gsoc | I don't think some google has a list of last year samples |
| 16:20.33 | chaz1 | h/o |
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| 16:21.35 | chaz1 | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
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| 16:21.57 | chx | ashishpaliwal: i am unaware of such a list. here http://drupal.org/files/application.pdf is a very high quality appliaction we got some years ago |
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| 16:22.46 | hellogsoc | hi kblin |
| 16:22.58 | hellogsoc | wanna discuss about your project |
| 16:22.59 | hellogsoc | ? |
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| 16:23.35 | kblin | hellogsoc: sure :) |
| 16:23.57 | kblin | hellogsoc: http://wiki.worldforge.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code#WOMBAT_ideas is the stuff I'd directly mentor |
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| 16:24.49 | RainCT | What's the "Major subject"? |
| 16:25.33 | toni_marie | most college programs have an academic track you choose |
| 16:25.39 | toni_marie | like computer science |
| 16:25.42 | toni_marie | chemistry |
| 16:25.42 | Gurpartap | RainCT: computer science, mechanical etc |
| 16:25.44 | toni_marie | literature |
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| 16:26.30 | chaz1 | mejor Computadora |
| 16:26.32 | chaz1 | etc. |
| 16:26.44 | gsoc | finds 'your name mentioned' every time when somebody types in gsoc and ends up in vain |
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| 16:27.05 | NicDumZ | well, that's a strange nick, for sure. |
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| 16:27.19 | NicDumZ | try changing it to "a" perhaps :) |
| 16:27.31 | NicDumZ | less highlights, for sure |
| 16:28.26 | gsoc | but i believe in GIMF ' gsoc is my friend ' :P |
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| 16:29.18 | NicDumZ | GIMF ? |
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| 16:29.39 | NicDumZ | Google says Global Islamic Media Front |
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| 16:29.49 | gsoc | lolz |
| 16:29.50 | NicDumZ | looks unrelated, but not sure :p |
| 16:30.07 | tntcoda | What happened to Ubuntu being an org? Im sure they were on the list at one point |
| 16:30.34 | AlekSi | !ubuntu |
| 16:30.34 | socinfo | "ubuntu" is Ubuntu had applied and was accepted, but they have subsequently chosen not to participate in GSoC 2009 |
| 16:30.35 | kblin | !ubuntu |
| 16:30.35 | socinfo | "ubuntu" is Ubuntu had applied and was accepted, but they have subsequently chosen not to participate in GSoC 2009 |
| 16:30.39 | AlekSi | ;) |
| 16:30.41 | kblin | darn, too slow |
| 16:30.51 | tntcoda | ok thanks :) |
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| 16:31.30 | gsoc | GIYF is google is your friend |
| 16:31.38 | RainCT | Uhm.. There wasn't a call for mentors not anything. Yay for transparency :P |
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| 16:32.03 | chaz1 | !python |
| 16:32.04 | socinfo | "python" is a popular language for GSoC projects. See #gsoc-python and http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode |
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| 16:39.40 | easwar | PearlJam, ping |
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| 16:51.00 | PearlJam | yeah! |
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| 16:52.22 | mib_tl1u1l | anyone from mentoring organisation fiji? |
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| 16:53.12 | Upthorn | !anyone |
| 16:53.13 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 16:55.21 | mib_tl1u1l | yeah I meant mentors because i am not getting any response at #fiji channel since last one hour |
| 16:56.03 | hypa7ia | mib_tl1u1l: people are in different time zones; they may be sleeping :) |
| 16:56.07 | Upthorn | it is supposed to be #fiji-devel but it is possible that people are aleep or at work right now |
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| 16:59.15 | kaiyi | i got a question, can you submit more than one application to one organization? |
| 16:59.26 | kaiyi | or example submitting 5 applications to KDE |
| 16:59.33 | Catfish_Man | you can |
| 16:59.42 | kaiyi | does that count as 5 towards 20 application limit? |
| 16:59.43 | kaiyi | thanks man |
| 16:59.48 | Catfish_Man | yes it does |
| 16:59.57 | kaiyi | thanks for your quick response |
| 17:00.02 | Catfish_Man | np :) |
| 17:00.46 | summatusmentis | in reality, you've only got tie for about 5 or 6 good applications, assuming you're writing constantly |
| 17:00.53 | summatusmentis | s/tie/time/ |
| 17:01.26 | kaiyi | one very good one is enough for me |
| 17:01.27 | NicDumZ | woo this bot is fun |
| 17:01.33 | hypa7ia | haha, that's awesome |
| 17:01.37 | mib_v0uboc | How do people plan to submit 5 proposals ? Planning even 1 proposal properly is taking a lot of time for me |
| 17:01.46 | kaiyi | no no... im just saying man |
| 17:01.47 | NicDumZ | yeah, I'm a bit surprised to |
| 17:01.48 | NicDumZ | o |
| 17:01.52 | kaiyi | im not submiting 5 |
| 17:02.00 | kaiyi | or 6 haha |
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| 17:02.57 | summatusmentis | mib_v0uboc: I would guess those submitting 5 or 6 are submitting to orgs they're almost positive will get in, and are submitting things for ideas they already know they want to implement. Additionally, they have probably already been talking to the communities, and may be a returning student |
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| 17:03.15 | Koyla | me too only summiting one... |
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| 17:03.49 | summatusmentis | Koyla: yeah, me too |
| 17:03.53 | Koyla | i take's lot of time to figure out ur plan of works...with the mentors look very closely.. |
| 17:04.23 | Koyla | summatusmentis in which organisation r u applying..?? |
| 17:04.26 | mib_v0uboc | whenever I come up with a plan, the devels say "I already tried that out. It wont work" |
| 17:04.31 | summatusmentis | Koyla: OpenAFS |
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| 17:05.02 | mib_v0uboc | damn |
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| 17:06.25 | Koyla | summatusmentis keep it up..Distributed system is very interesting.. |
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| 17:07.46 | nehul | How do we apply to google open source office |
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| 17:08.26 | Mathiasdm | there's a point about it in the faq |
| 17:08.27 | Mathiasdm | !faq |
| 17:08.28 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:09.04 | Mathiasdm | http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#no_org |
| 17:09.47 | Mathiasdm | if I may ask: what do you wish to do? (disclaimer: I applied to google open source office as well) |
| 17:11.12 | nehul | IT says that we can carry self initiated projects with our own mentors |
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| 17:11.50 | nehul | Do the mentors have to be associated with google |
| 17:12.00 | Catfish_Man | no |
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| 17:12.08 | nehul | then who would pay us |
| 17:12.12 | Catfish_Man | google |
| 17:12.38 | nehul | But if mentors don't belong to google |
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| 17:12.50 | Mathiasdm | that is the case with mentors for all the projects |
| 17:13.12 | nehul | Yes but they are the mentoring organizations |
| 17:13.14 | Mathiasdm | you receive $4500 from google (if you complete your project), the project receives $500 |
| 17:13.38 | Mathiasdm | yes, but for the google open source office, you need to say: I want $someone_you_choose$ to be my mentor |
| 17:13.54 | nehul | We receive $4500 from the mentoring organization and not from googlr |
| 17:14.02 | Catfish_Man | not true |
| 17:14.03 | Mathiasdm | no |
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| 17:14.06 | Mathiasdm | that's incorrect |
| 17:14.15 | nehul | its correct |
| 17:14.31 | Mathiasdm | er, no, google pays |
| 17:14.34 | smtms | nehul, don't make yourself a fool |
| 17:14.41 | Mathiasdm | just a sec, I'll give you a source |
| 17:14.50 | nehul | ok got it |
| 17:14.54 | Mathiasdm | ah, okay |
| 17:14.56 | nehul | my info was wrong |
| 17:15.01 | dhoclone_plan9 | yes it was :) |
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| 17:15.33 | Mathiasdm | it happens :) |
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| 17:24.14 | dmj727 | Is it possible to submit my application as a PDF? |
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| 17:26.03 | PearlJam | dmj727: not possible. only plain ASCII text is allowed. however u can link to an externally uploaded PDF using the 'Additional Info' in the application. but make sure you write something in the space provided also. |
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| 17:28.03 | dmj727 | Oh, okay. Should I put my whole text in that field then and attach the pdf? |
| 17:28.19 | knarayanan88 | Thank u...Is this channel for the overall discussion of Gsoc prjcts? |
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| 17:28.45 | knarayanan88 | Are there individual channels for each orgs? |
| 17:28.51 | Traveler8 | yes |
| 17:29.04 | Traveler8 | !anyone |
| 17:29.05 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 17:29.14 | PearlJam | dmj727: yes. exactly. |
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| 17:29.43 | PearlJam | the PDF is just for extra information that the reviewer may look up. it is not meant to be an entire replacement for the application space provided on the site. |
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| 17:30.13 | Traveler8 | mentors here? |
| 17:30.14 | knarayanan88 | so this channel is for? doubt clearing?? |
| 17:30.29 | Traveler8 | yes i suppose so |
| 17:30.40 | knarayanan88 | k... |
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| 17:31.08 | Upthorn | !anyone |
| 17:31.08 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 17:31.10 | Traveler8 | any google opensource office mentors? |
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| 17:31.25 | thiago_home | don't ask for people |
| 17:31.27 | thiago_home | ask your question |
| 17:31.41 | Traveler8 | i went to the gsoc2009 page |
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| 17:32.00 | Traveler8 | there are no ideas projects listed by google |
| 17:32.04 | Traveler8 | by "google opensource office" |
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| 17:32.28 | knarayanan88 | i can't get an idea of wat kind of discussion can be done here...... |
| 17:32.47 | knarayanan88 | is it related to overall gsoc |
| 17:32.52 | Traveler8 | well,they will refer you to "http://stuff" |
| 17:32.52 | knarayanan88 | or ?? |
| 17:32.55 | zounds | anything GSoC related more or less |
| 17:33.16 | NicDumZ | this channel |
| 17:33.19 | NicDumZ | is only made |
| 17:33.29 | NicDumZ | so bored people can bash people not reading the faq |
| 17:33.32 | NicDumZ | more or less :p |
| 17:33.39 | mib_v0uboc | knarayanan88: hang out here for an hour or so, you'll know it for yourself |
| 17:33.39 | Upthorn | that is because you should only be applying to "google opensource office" in extreme cases where you already have an idea and none of the accepted mentoring organizations will fit that |
| 17:33.45 | danderson | NicDumZ: no, it is made for various things, but is dominated by people who cannot read |
| 17:33.56 | danderson | this is an effect of the population, not the original intent. |
| 17:33.59 | Traveler8 | can i pick up my own mentors? |
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| 17:34.42 | Traveler8 | i have aprofessor who has "iphone application project" going on |
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| 17:34.42 | danderson | Traveler8: one piece of advice: do not apply to google directly. |
| 17:34.42 | knarayanan88 | so mentors also join discussions.....in this channel.... |
| 17:34.42 | NicDumZ | danderson, merely joking here, it's my second GSoC :p |
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| 17:34.42 | Upthorn | danderson: he's talking about #noorg |
| 17:34.42 | Traveler8 | why not? |
| 17:34.42 | kaiyi | I remembver last year the deadline was extended to allow more communication between mentor and students, is it the case this year? |
| 17:34.44 | danderson | I don't think I've ever seen a project sent to google that was accepted |
| 17:34.52 | danderson | there are always better projects with the other orgs |
| 17:34.58 | danderson | I could be wrong, but that's my memory of it. |
| 17:35.10 | Traveler8 | are you from double-take software danderson? |
| 17:35.14 | danderson | the goal of SoC is to work with open source communities |
| 17:35.28 | danderson | not to sponsor work that 2 people want to do |
| 17:35.34 | danderson | Traveler8: what? |
| 17:35.51 | Traveler8 | sorry i'm probably mistaken |
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| 17:35.58 | Traveler8 | i get it |
| 17:36.15 | Traveler8 | !anyone |
| 17:36.16 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 17:36.32 | danderson | I mean, feel free to do whatever you want, of course |
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| 17:37.00 | danderson | but usually applications that come to Google directly are rejected, because they completely miss the point that SoC is to work with open source communities |
| 17:37.16 | danderson | and not to gather venture capital funds, or start a new open source community |
| 17:37.34 | danderson | I don't think I've ever seen a proper application coming to Google directly |
| 17:37.35 | knarayanan88 | ok..i hav liked one ofthe ideas of an organization...wat r the next steps that i need to take |
| 17:37.36 | knarayanan88 | ? |
| 17:37.47 | danderson | !faq |
| 17:37.47 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:37.48 | danderson | !anyone |
| 17:37.48 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 17:37.50 | danderson | !next |
| 17:37.50 | socinfo | "next" is Student application period has now started, and runs until April 3rd at 19:00 UTC (12:00 PST) (countdown: http://tinyurl.com/dzlmpj ). Students, apply now at http://tinyurl.com/cznmrx. |
| 17:37.55 | danderson | read. |
| 17:37.59 | Upthorn | danderson: there was one guy this year who had a no_org project that actually really seemed appropriate |
| 17:38.24 | danderson | oh, and |
| 17:38.26 | zounds | knarayanan88: Contact the organisation |
| 17:38.28 | danderson | !advice |
| 17:38.28 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 17:38.34 | zounds | and discuss it with them |
| 17:38.39 | danderson | Upthorn: already submitted? |
| 17:39.47 | Upthorn | http://gsoc.pastebin.com/d576819fd |
| 17:39.56 | knarayanan88 | i dont know if i will b able to implement it...or not...the requierments suited me well...so how do i know more abt the feasibility of wat i hav liked |
| 17:40.17 | zounds | knarayanan88: talk to the organisation and mentors involved |
| 17:40.26 | Upthorn | I don'know what chrispolk actually did after that |
| 17:40.27 | zounds | knarayanan88: you should read the faq and advice linked to above |
| 17:40.41 | knarayanan88 | u mean mail them...rite? |
| 17:40.48 | Traveler8 | read faq |
| 17:40.49 | Traveler8 | !faq |
| 17:40.50 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:41.01 | knarayanan88 | ok.. |
| 17:41.03 | Upthorn | but that case seemed like the exact sort of reason that the no_org application process was instituted to begin with. |
| 17:41.03 | knarayanan88 | thnx |
| 17:41.05 | borja | knarayanan88: if they have an IRC channel, that's also a good way of contacting the org or mentors |
| 17:41.18 | knarayanan88 | ok...thats a gud idea |
| 17:41.21 | borja | knarayanan88: if you're concerned about being able to do a GSoC project, this is also a good read: http://www.hawthornlandings.org/2009/03/getting-started-in-open-source-you-dont.html |
| 17:41.22 | Sepho | Is there any Java proposed projet?? |
| 17:41.23 | knarayanan88 | i ll try that now |
| 17:41.32 | danderson | Sepho: RTFM |
| 17:41.32 | borja | !orgbylang |
| 17:41.32 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 17:41.37 | danderson | seriously |
| 17:41.44 | danderson | I'm going to become more and more rude with stupid questions |
| 17:41.52 | Sepho | danderson: for which organization? |
| 17:42.07 | borja | Sepho: check out the orgbylang link above |
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| 17:42.29 | Sepho | oh, thanks! |
| 17:42.32 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 17:42.37 | borja | hey summatusmentis |
| 17:42.54 | summatusmentis | how're you borja ? |
| 17:43.02 | zounds | danderson: while that's understandable it's hardly fair that someone should suffer the accumlation of your wrath just because they got here later |
| 17:43.12 | danderson | zounds: tough titties |
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| 17:43.21 | danderson | it was a stupid question before, it's a stupid question now |
| 17:43.22 | borja | summatusmentis: busy preparing a course I start teaching this Tuesday |
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| 17:43.30 | danderson | only my tolerance has changed, not the stupidity of the question |
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| 17:43.40 | zounds | danderson: why are the stupid questions your problem? |
| 17:44.01 | danderson | signal to noise ratio, quality of discourse, preventing entitlement |
| 17:44.09 | summatusmentis | borja: what's the course? is it interesting? |
| 17:44.14 | danderson | discouraging monkey-see-monkey-do |
| 17:44.42 | borja | summatusmentis: it's a databases course. I'm actually teaching the labs, and we're going to be implementing a relational database system from the ground up in C |
| 17:44.53 | danderson | basically, attempting to keep this place from turning into "HOW I GET MONIEZ?" |
| 17:45.15 | borja | summatusmentis: students are going to be working in teams, collaborating through SVN, so I think it's going to be a lot of fun; but also requires a lot of work to get it ready |
| 17:45.16 | summatusmentis | borja: that might be kinda cool... databases aren't my cup of tea |
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| 17:45.35 | summatusmentis | I'll stick to my cup of "Breakfast Americana" :-D |
| 17:45.36 | danderson | it is also not rocket science to read a few pages of official project documentation before taking time from hundreds of people |
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| 17:45.45 | Traveler5 | hi sorry for keep asking |
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| 17:45.51 | borja | summatusmentis: they're not really my cup of tea either; the labs however are more about building a complex software system collaboratively than about the databases themselves |
| 17:46.04 | Traveler5 | which lab? |
| 17:46.07 | summatusmentis | which is interesting, and ground up would be cool |
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| 17:46.39 | borja | summatusmentis: yeah, we basically wanted to move away from the more traditional model of teaching databases by having students write SQL queries all throughout the quarter |
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| 17:46.47 | summatusmentis | my AI/EC class is talking about building an EC platform ground up for our final project |
| 17:47.12 | summatusmentis | anyone can learn SQL, that's not hard |
| 17:47.42 | danderson | summatusmentis: EC? |
| 17:48.12 | summatusmentis | Evolutionary Computing |
| 17:48.15 | summatusmentis | sorry |
| 17:48.21 | borja | exactly; on the other hand, implementing a file-based B-Tree is not something that you can easily learn on your own. After having to write one for this course, I've come to realize that most algorithm books have a very hand-wavy description of how they work |
| 17:48.26 | Traveler5 | !mentor |
| 17:48.27 | socinfo | Error: "mentor" is not a valid command. |
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| 17:48.54 | summatusmentis | ugh, I should brush up on algorithms |
| 17:48.57 | danderson | summatusmentis: aah, fun stuff. |
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| 17:49.15 | mwilkes|phone | evenin all |
| 17:49.31 | danderson | we wrote a scheduling algorithm for our EC course |
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| 17:50.06 | Traveler5 | are you a mentor ?danderson |
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| 17:50.22 | danderson | given the courses each of 1.5k students are following, and the timetable of lectures/labs for each course, allocate students to lecture and lab groups such that all groups are roughly equal, minimizing conflicts in student timetables |
| 17:50.22 | summatusmentis | danderson: it's pretty interesting, actually. I don't see the application quite yet, because it seems to be a field of people playing with toy problems, and then applying these results of toy problems to specific case studines |
| 17:50.26 | summatusmentis | studies* |
| 17:50.47 | summatusmentis | danderson: oh, that's really cool... |
| 17:50.53 | Traveler5 | cool stuff |
| 17:50.59 | Traveler5 | have a link to your project? |
| 17:51.01 | danderson | summatusmentis: see above. The course scheduling problem is a very real problem that is relatively easy to solve with an evolutionary algorithm |
| 17:51.14 | danderson | Traveler5: I am not a mentor, please ask your real question instead |
| 17:51.32 | Traveler5 | may i haev a look at your scheduling project? |
| 17:51.36 | Traveler5 | seem interesting |
| 17:51.36 | danderson | no. |
| 17:51.37 | summatusmentis | danderson: yeah, and I think as a concept thre's a lot of applications, it just doesn't seem to be applied to too much yet |
| 17:51.39 | danderson | it's not an SoC project. |
| 17:51.53 | danderson | summatusmentis: actually, the folks after us had it even tougher: they were given a list of courses, a mapping from student to courses, and timetables of professor availability |
| 17:51.56 | smtms | that doesn't prevent you from having a URL about that work |
| 17:52.21 | danderson | they had to come up with course timetables based on the professors' availabilities, and then allocate students to groups |
| 17:52.21 | Traveler5 | he said he doens't have it |
| 17:52.25 | summatusmentis | danderson: yeah, their section sounds harder :) |
| 17:52.33 | Traveler5 | you guys are from MIT? |
| 17:52.37 | danderson | in some ways theirs was actually slightly easier |
| 17:52.43 | danderson | they had a less constrained system |
| 17:52.50 | Traveler5 | interesting project..good for you guys |
| 17:52.53 | summatusmentis | Traveler5: no, I'm very definitely not from MIT |
| 17:53.13 | danderson | a much larger solution space of course, but the whole point of heuristic algorithms is to intelligently explore the solution space |
| 17:53.35 | danderson | The solutions that worked best were genetic algorithms, and agent-based solutions |
| 17:53.55 | danderson | where each allocation in the system is represented as an agent that has a certain energy level |
| 17:54.05 | danderson | the more other agents conflict with its allocation, the higher the energy |
| 17:54.20 | danderson | high energy agents tend to "jump" and change allocation to acquire a lower energy state |
| 17:54.32 | summatusmentis | yeh. My professor is trying to get data from admissions, so we can play with it and see if we can derive some sort of trend that will show a higher acceptance of of admissions offers |
| 17:54.34 | danderson | sprinkle agents randomly, execute universe |
| 17:54.41 | danderson | wait for minimal energy state |
| 17:54.49 | mwilkes|phone | danderson: My old department had a sign saying "Is course scheduling NP complete? NO!" |
| 17:55.08 | danderson | good for them. Doesn't mean it isn't bloody hard |
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| 18:20.04 | axel | Hello! I've got a question: I'm a student teacher at two vocational schools in Germany (Bavaria). Can the students / pupils (Fachinformatiker) of this schools apply to the GSoC? (The schools are neither academic nor pre-academic but they educate computer science and information technology. Successfully passing the schools pupils / students can work in the IT-sector on various tasks and positions like software and database developement as |
| 18:20.04 | axel | well as planing, maintaining and administrating systems.) |
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| 18:24.04 | summatusmentis | axel: I think, assuming the students are 18 or older, they are allowed to apply, so long as it's not 'high school' |
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| 18:27.46 | neurodrone | I also had a question on eligibility criteria. I am from India and have been admitted to pursue Masters in CS at a NewYork Grad School. But my college wont start until late August. and I am currently neither in my undergrad institution, neither am I employed. So will I be able to fit in anywhere ? Anyone can help me in this weird scenario ? |
| 18:27.51 | neurodrone | Thanks! :) |
| 18:28.30 | summatusmentis | neurodrone: I think if you can prove acceptance into school, you're allowed to participate |
| 18:28.58 | axel | summatusmentis: The students have finished the secondary education and prepare for their job. So I suppose they can apply, can they? |
| 18:28.59 | neurodrone | summatusmentis : oh kewl ! :) so do I need to show my i20 ? |
| 18:29.29 | neurodrone | Its really good if SOC provides us with that kind of leeway. |
| 18:30.27 | neurodrone | any idea on what proofs should I be ready with to prove my acceptance ? |
| 18:30.53 | kumarabhi | whats the site for searching within soc projects? |
| 18:31.11 | borja | !orgbylang |
| 18:31.11 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 18:31.12 | borja | that one? |
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| 18:32.11 | borja | neurodrone: the school should be able to provide you with documentation proving that you have been accepted. Actually, your letter of admission is probably enough. |
| 18:32.51 | summatusmentis | axel: I would guess yes |
| 18:33.08 | summatusmentis | neurodrone: pretty much anything works |
| 18:33.12 | summatusmentis | I used my student id card last year |
| 18:33.20 | neurodrone | borja: thats great then! I do have their acceptance mail along with the letter of admission i.e. i20 which I have received by mail. :) |
| 18:33.20 | summatusmentis | but letter of acceptance works too |
| 18:33.37 | neurodrone | summatusmentis: oh I do not have any ID as such.. as I just got my admit 2 weeks back |
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| 18:33.59 | summatusmentis | well, as borja said, your acceptance letter works too |
| 18:34.17 | neurodrone | okay kewl! :) thanks a lot summatusmentis and borja! :) |
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| 18:34.38 | neurodrone | I hope to have a great time at SOC2009 :) |
| 18:34.39 | ankitg | neurodrone: Anything that proves you are a student as of the date stated on the website goes. Just don't send in images of you chugging beer. =) |
| 18:34.58 | summatusmentis | =haha |
| 18:35.01 | neurodrone | ankitg: :P hahah.. I even might |
| 18:35.57 | axel | summatusmentis: Thank you very much for your answer. |
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| 18:37.31 | devvrat | are google servers hanging everywhere |
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| 18:37.40 | borja | huh? |
| 18:38.27 | summatusmentis | I don't have any hanging, but the javascript in firefox seems to run google's sites slower than normal |
| 18:39.22 | devvrat | ya that may be the case |
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| 18:41.48 | neary | !games |
| 18:41.48 | socinfo | Error: "games" is not a valid command. |
| 18:41.52 | neary | !game |
| 18:41.52 | socinfo | Error: "game" is not a valid command. |
| 18:42.56 | neary | can we get a list of orgs involved in the games industry? |
| 18:43.23 | summatusmentis | !orgbytype |
| 18:43.23 | socinfo | Error: "orgbytype" is not a valid command. |
| 18:43.24 | borja | !orgbylang |
| 18:43.25 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 18:43.32 | Landon | snow! |
| 18:43.33 | summatusmentis | not lang though |
| 18:43.39 | borja | That's the list by language, but projects are also tagged by "area" |
| 18:43.46 | summatusmentis | !orgbyarea |
| 18:43.46 | socinfo | Error: "orgbyarea" is not a valid command. |
| 18:43.52 | summatusmentis | there used to be a trigger for it |
| 18:43.59 | borja | http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/game_development |
| 18:44.15 | borja | http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/game_engine |
| 18:44.46 | borja | uhm, how do you teach socinfo stuff? |
| 18:44.57 | borja | socinfo: learn orgbycategory as http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories |
| 18:44.57 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 18:45.03 | borja | !orgbycategory |
| 18:45.04 | socinfo | "orgbycategory" is http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories |
| 18:45.08 | summatusmentis | !orgbycat |
| 18:45.08 | socinfo | "orgbycat" is 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 18:45.09 | borja | hurrah! |
| 18:45.11 | summatusmentis | that's what it was |
| 18:45.13 | borja | oh |
| 18:45.14 | borja | heh |
| 18:45.16 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 18:45.20 | borja | socinfo: forget orgbycategory |
| 18:45.20 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 18:45.25 | summatusmentis | no worries, either way |
| 18:45.46 | borja | I think that's the fastest I've gone from win to fail |
| 18:46.21 | borja | Landon: snow where? |
| 18:46.32 | borja | We're getting snow in Chicago tomorrow... *sigh* |
| 18:46.39 | borja | . o O ( Won't it ever end? ) |
| 18:47.57 | summatusmentis | borja: midwestern snow? never |
| 18:48.13 | summatusmentis | it was snowing in MN yesterday |
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| 18:48.34 | borja | I have to keep reminding myself that, as hard as we have it, there's people further up north than us ;) |
| 18:48.50 | Landon | borja: manhattan, ks |
| 18:48.58 | Landon | theres much more south though :( |
| 18:49.46 | borja | There was some comedian who said about Chicago that it was founded by New Yorkers who said to themselves "You know, I like the crime and the poverty, but it's just not cold enough... let's go west!" |
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| 18:50.23 | orian_ | cu |
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| 18:50.50 | summatusmentis | borja: :-D |
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| 19:16.22 | summatusmentis | !orgbylang |
| 19:16.22 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 19:16.29 | summatusmentis | chaz1: is that what you're looking for? |
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| 19:20.11 | anikethan | Hello all |
| 19:20.42 | anikethan | Is there any option to save an application for further editing before submission? |
| 19:21.05 | anikethan | In the GSoC site itself? |
| 19:21.44 | brlcad | anikethan: no, but once a mentor comments on your application, you should have the ability to keep editing it |
| 19:22.55 | anikethan | bricad: Thanks. I was in the midst of filling an application. But have to stop it there. |
| 19:23.06 | anikethan | So just wanted to know. |
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| 19:23.25 | summatusmentis | anikethan: I keep mine local or in Google Docs until I'm ready to submit |
| 19:24.27 | anikethan | Oh. Ok. But will not copy&paste in any way affect the formatting in the actual application? |
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| 19:24.47 | anikethan | This has happened to me sometimes in gmail |
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| 19:25.28 | anikethan | The spacing gets disturbed when it reaches the intended person. |
| 19:25.38 | summatusmentis | it didn't really from oogle Docs |
| 19:26.09 | one | anyone there |
| 19:26.44 | summatusmentis | seriously? |
| 19:27.51 | anikethan | summatusmentis: Yes. As far as I remember from my side the formatting was all right. |
| 19:28.12 | summatusmentis | anikethan: oh, that 'seriously?' was intended at one |
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| 19:28.24 | anikethan | summatusmentis: It might have been due to the RTF decoding |
| 19:28.30 | anikethan | Oh. Ok :-) |
| 19:28.42 | anikethan | Good one |
| 19:29.11 | summatusmentis | copy&paste worked fine for me between google doc and the tinymce, but I suppose it's possible there might be some weird formatting issues |
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| 19:29.52 | borja | I thought that, once you submitted the application, you could edit it at any point before the submission deadline |
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| 19:30.08 | borja | !userguide |
| 19:30.09 | socinfo | "userguide" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
| 19:30.34 | anikethan | summatusmentis: Ok. Thanks. But I believe having the option of saving a draft before submission will be useful. |
| 19:30.49 | borja | "To review which proposals you have submitted or to make edits to your proposal, click on "List my Student Proposals" in the left hand navigation menu. Clicking on your hyperlinked Link ID next to the appropriate proposal title will take you to the saved copy of your proposal. You can then click the "Edit my Proposal" link next to the title of your proposal, review mentor comments on your proposal, or add your own comments to your proposal." |
| 19:31.12 | borja | The only downside is that, if you submit an incomplete draft, the org will be able to see it |
| 19:31.55 | summatusmentis | right, that's generally why I tried to have something as final as posslbe |
| 19:32.33 | anikethan | Right. |
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| 19:32.58 | summatusmentis | contemplates the difference between Nokia n810 and the eee 901 |
| 19:33.23 | ahuillet | summatusmentis : pretty much *not* the same things |
| 19:33.32 | ahuillet | it's quicker to list the similarities than the differences... |
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| 19:34.04 | summatusmentis | ahuillet: I know they're not the same things, I'm wondering if I could get by w/ my n810 though |
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| 19:36.08 | summatusmentis | it's almost to big to use with hands, but too small to warrant being stuck in a backpack |
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| 19:56.34 | ajuonline | .o/ |
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| 19:58.21 | summatusmentis | uh oh... acer aspire one for $240... |
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| 19:58.32 | summatusmentis | this is not conducive to my saving money |
| 19:58.34 | summatusmentis | hi ajuonline |
| 19:59.35 | ajuonline | hi summatusmentis |
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| 19:59.46 | summatusmentis | howsit? |
| 19:59.55 | ajuonline | great :) just got back to India |
| 20:00.12 | Landon | summatusmentis: eee power cord broke :( |
| 20:00.17 | summatusmentis | you were in... somewhere? |
| 20:00.19 | summatusmentis | Landon: ohnoes! |
| 20:00.31 | Landon | yeah |
| 20:00.36 | Landon | not a problem specific to eee power cords :P |
| 20:00.38 | summatusmentis | maybe shouldn't've been chewing on it |
| 20:00.44 | Landon | but still, annoyance |
| 20:00.49 | summatusmentis | very much so |
| 20:00.50 | Landon | wires broke free on teh inside |
| 20:01.05 | Landon | so I put some jumpers in there from a lab kit |
| 20:01.06 | Landon | taped it up |
| 20:01.08 | Landon | all was well |
| 20:01.12 | Landon | until yesterday |
| 20:01.21 | Landon | and now it doesnt even recognize it at all |
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| 20:01.51 | summatusmentis | Landon: did you get eee storage with yours? |
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| 20:01.55 | Landon | no |
| 20:01.59 | Landon | was before they came out with that iirc |
| 20:02.14 | summatusmentis | ah |
| 20:02.18 | summatusmentis | I doubt I'd use it either |
| 20:02.24 | summatusmentis | VPS/AFS, but still |
| 20:02.31 | summatusmentis | if they're gonna give it to me... |
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| 20:17.11 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: colombo, sri lanka |
| 20:17.27 | summatusmentis | sri lanka, that's right |
| 20:17.36 | summatusmentis | I couldn't remember from twitter where exactly you were |
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| 20:20.06 | sandy_kc | how do I edit my application once I have submitted my application?? |
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| 20:20.41 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: at the conf. there was no internet working. so couldnt twitter much :P |
| 20:20.46 | ajuonline | upping the pics now |
| 20:20.53 | sandy_kc | how do I edit my application once I have submitted my application?? |
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| 20:21.11 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: how did you survive? Did you go through withdrawl? |
| 20:21.14 | ajuonline | though most of the pics, were from gavins camera, he will get home in 24-48 hours and put it online :P |
| 20:21.16 | summatusmentis | sandy_kc: have you even tried? |
| 20:21.33 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: i guess. i did go to the hospital. got allergies. I hate prawns. |
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| 20:21.43 | summatusmentis | oh that sucks |
| 20:21.50 | sandy_kc | yes |
| 20:22.05 | ajuonline | so people said, I got back my life :/ |
| 20:22.17 | ajuonline | it was a lethal attack it seems |
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| 20:23.01 | summatusmentis | www.socghop.appspot.com -> "List my Student Proposals" on the left -> click your proposal title -> "Edit my Proposal" at the top |
| 20:23.05 | summatusmentis | sandy_kc: ^^ |
| 20:23.16 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: oh no! I'm glad you're ok |
| 20:24.00 | sandy_kc | summatusmentis:ah...i am sorry...I really ...did not see...!! |
| 20:24.12 | sandy_kc | summatusmentis: ty |
| 20:24.25 | summatusmentis | sandy_kc: no worries, it's just a matter of poking around :) |
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| 20:53.31 | [1]Evan | I'm a student registering for GSoC. Will the mentoring organizations be able to see my complete profile, including my age? |
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| 20:55.25 | summatusmentis | I believe so, yes |
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| 20:56.40 | sandy_kc | Are they able to see the applications submitted till now? |
| 20:57.18 | dhaun | no, we don't see the student profiles |
| 20:57.27 | scorche | [1]Evan: no, we cant |
| 20:57.29 | dhaun | but we do see the applications |
| 20:57.32 | scorche | sandalle: yup |
| 20:57.36 | scorche | whoops |
| 20:57.44 | sandy_kc | ok |
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| 20:58.26 | summatusmentis | student profiles are public right? |
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| 20:58.37 | scorche | nope |
| 20:59.02 | summatusmentis | really? hrm |
| 20:59.14 | antarus | speaking of applications |
| 20:59.20 | antarus | I should go look at mine ;p |
| 20:59.23 | [1]Evan | @scorche I guess that's why you ask for our names. |
| 20:59.43 | scorche | and other info, yup ;) |
| 20:59.56 | scorche | though, we get your name, of course |
| 21:00.16 | [1]Evan | @scorche So what organization are you with? |
| 21:00.29 | scorche | Rockbox and Sugar Labs |
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| 21:01.16 | summatusmentis | was it Sugar Labs accepted, or are they umbrellad under OLPC this year? |
| 21:01.39 | scorche | Sugar Labs was accepted; OLPC was not |
| 21:02.28 | summatusmentis | oh, other way around, ok |
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| 21:02.51 | summatusmentis | I kinda want an XO, but I have no reason to |
| 21:02.54 | smtms | summatusmentis, have you picked your organisations already? |
| 21:03.03 | [1]Evan | @scorche I remember Sugar Labs; you guys are the ones with the terrifying application XD |
| 21:03.08 | smtms | summatusmentis, it's a cute toy - that's enough of a reason :-) |
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| 21:03.14 | summatusmentis | smtms: I'm only applying to OpenAFS |
| 21:03.26 | summatusmentis | haha, a cute toy isn't enough of a reason for me to spend money on it |
| 21:03.44 | scorche | [1]Evan: there are others with much more terrifying ones...Sugar Labs' is about par for the course, i would say |
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| 21:04.44 | scorche | summatusmentis: they are nifty little buggers, but not really designed for consumers like us ;) ...that said, there are a number of uses i love mine for and i use it multiple times a week... |
| 21:05.02 | summatusmentis | scorche: well, obviously not intended at college students, but still really cool |
| 21:07.09 | summatusmentis | the Sugar Labs application looks very very thorough |
| 21:07.33 | summatusmentis | also, I really like they'll be setting up a pilot close to every accepted GSoC student, that's awesome |
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| 21:53.02 | summatusmentis | le sigh, I need to figure out a way to justify switching my hardware up, without being out of a computer for a little while |
| 21:54.34 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: buy a new computer? |
| 21:55.34 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: well, that's the point. I have a working laptop, I want a different desktop + netbook, and I can't afford to just outright buy the new hardware, then sell the old |
| 21:55.56 | summatusmentis | so I need to figure out a way ot sell the old, buy the new, and have enough overlap so I'm not without a machine :) |
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| 22:02.31 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: find someone willing to buy, then someone willing to sell, in the same area? |
| 22:02.39 | Ori_B | borrow a few hundred dollars from a friend? |
| 22:03.01 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: yeah.... it's mostly just techno-lust though, I have a fine machine :) |
| 22:03.38 | castarco | hello :p |
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| 22:03.59 | summatusmentis | hi castarco |
| 22:05.03 | castarco | i want to collaborate with openoffice improvint the calc autofilter but now, at this moment, I have not read enough to know what steps to follow and describe it on the proposal.. |
| 22:05.20 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: is there a problem with techno-lust? |
| 22:05.25 | SRabbelier | !askyourorg |
| 22:05.25 | socinfo | "askyourorg" is You should ask the organization you are interested in applying as this varies per organization. |
| 22:05.31 | SRabbelier | castarco: ^^^ |
| 22:06.46 | borja | castarco: OpenOffice per se is not a mentoring organization in GSoC. "Go OpenOffice" is an org, but make sure that your idea is actually something they would be interested in |
| 22:07.27 | castarco | Yes, I said wrong, sorry |
| 22:07.28 | borja | oh, wait, I see that improving the calc autofilter is actually one of the Go OpenOffice proposed projects :-P |
| 22:07.29 | castarco | i know it |
| 22:07.42 | borja | so, yeah, what SRabbelier said then ;-) |
| 22:08.22 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: no, just that it's probably not a justifiable reason for a poor college student to move away from working hardware |
| 22:08.37 | castarco | Is it a big problem not have deciding yet what strategy to follow? |
| 22:08.58 | borja | !askyourorg |
| 22:08.58 | socinfo | "askyourorg" is You should ask the organization you are interested in applying as this varies per organization. |
| 22:09.17 | castarco | oks, thanks |
| 22:09.56 | [1]Evan | So... how many organizaitons have all of you signed up for? I chose 3. |
| 22:10.29 | summatusmentis | [1]Evan: just one, but I worked with them last year |
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| 22:13.36 | imbusy | fuck, I've almost lost my whole proposal since I've left the window open for a few days before editing :) |
| 22:13.54 | imbusy | by the time I pressed submit, I was already logged out |
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| 22:14.14 | r0bby | imbusy: language! |
| 22:14.17 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: yeah, I guess you're right. |
| 22:14.19 | r0bby | there are children present |
| 22:14.26 | r0bby | my virgin eyes |
| 22:14.28 | imbusy | :)) |
| 22:14.28 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: get a prof to buy it for you :P |
| 22:14.36 | SRabbelier | imbusy: no seriously |
| 22:14.39 | SRabbelier | imbusy: please, no profanity |
| 22:14.41 | Ori_B | "Can I do research for you?" |
| 22:14.41 | imbusy | ok |
| 22:14.51 | Ori_B | "Oh, oops... I need a new computer..." |
| 22:14.52 | SRabbelier | imbusy: there are actually minors over here |
| 22:14.53 | Ori_B | :P |
| 22:15.07 | Ori_B | SRabbelier: Someone! think of the children! |
| 22:15.09 | r0bby | where's dmitri |
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| 22:15.32 | SRabbelier | Ori_B: indeed |
| 22:15.33 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: haha, MN has no i money |
| 22:15.35 | SRabbelier | r0bby: haha, exactly |
| 22:17.20 | Ori_B | hm. anyone know of a good fast fixed-point sin approximation? |
| 22:17.55 | mneptok | please! there are clergy present! |
| 22:17.56 | SRabbelier | tries to think of a joke relating to sinning, but can't come up with anything related to fixed-poitns :( |
| 22:18.24 | summatusmentis | there's always the bad innuendo jokes |
| 22:18.30 | summatusmentis | I'll fix your point |
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| 22:18.37 | summatusmentis | I'll point your fix, etc. etc. |
| 22:18.41 | borja | heh |
| 22:18.56 | summatusmentis | which then can lead to a sin joke |
| 22:19.06 | summatusmentis | but it's all very poorly designed, and not terribly funny |
| 22:19.32 | borja | You could conceivably even make a "that's what she said" out of it |
| 22:19.32 | Ori_B | summatusmentis: I'm reminded of a scene from this year's engineering musical... |
| 22:19.53 | borja | . o O ( A good fast fixed-point sin? That's what she said! ) |
| 22:20.04 | summatusmentis | borja: nicely done sir :-D |
| 22:20.14 | summatusmentis | Ori_B: I'm not sure I want to know |
| 22:20.20 | Ori_B | "And the calculators today even have a "sin" button on them! Sinning is so easy these days. It makes me mad, thinking of all the kids sitting at home, pressing the "sin" button over and over" |
| 22:20.23 | SRabbelier | borja: +1 on that |
| 22:20.29 | Ori_B | or something along those lines |
| 22:20.41 | Ori_B | but seriously, |
| 22:20.44 | SRabbelier | Ori_B: lol |
| 22:20.49 | Ori_B | fixed point sine/cosine? |
| 22:21.07 | summatusmentis | arguably all signs are fixed to their original point |
| 22:21.11 | summatusmentis | hides |
| 22:21.12 | mneptok | actually, what she said was, "are we going grocery shopping tonight or tomorrow?" |
| 22:21.13 | mneptok | bbl |
| 22:21.18 | Ori_B | SRabbelier: the first half of the musical was a parody of Reefer Madness, an anti-weed propaganda film |
| 22:21.24 | Ori_B | only against math :) |
| 22:21.41 | llnz | Ori_B: try searching google for fixed point sine |
| 22:21.48 | SRabbelier | Ori_B: lol |
| 22:21.50 | llnz | game programmers use such things a lot |
| 22:21.58 | borja | summatusmentis: I'm waiting for him to say something ending in "-er" so I can reply "....er? I barely know her!" |
| 22:22.16 | summatusmentis | borja: :-D we need to spend more time together :-D |
| 22:22.23 | summatusmentis | as in, come to MN |
| 22:22.26 | summatusmentis | >_> |
| 22:22.34 | SRabbelier | summatusmentis: MN is not that arousing :P |
| 22:22.36 | Ori_B | llnz: yeah, therre are lots of them |
| 22:22.40 | Ori_B | presumably some are better than others. |
| 22:22.47 | SRabbelier | wonders if that one was too contrived |
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| 22:22.54 | borja | summatusmentis: or, you know, you could come to the big city |
| 22:23.00 | summatusmentis | SRabbelier: I'm in MN, of course it is |
| 22:23.08 | summatusmentis | and yes, borderline too contrived |
| 22:23.13 | SRabbelier | summatusmentis: :P |
| 22:23.20 | ThomasWaldmann | works on some python coding tests for students |
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| 22:23.40 | SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: what's it like? |
| 22:24.21 | borja | summatusmentis: actually, I'm trying to organize a GSoC meetup in Chicago after accepted students are announced; I you could swing by, that would be awesome, although I realize MN is not _that_ close to Chicago ;-) |
| 22:24.24 | ThomasWaldmann | one test for very basic coding, but checking style, clarity, comments, etc. |
| 22:24.33 | chx | fixed point sin? |
| 22:24.36 | chx | CORDIC? |
| 22:24.38 | ThomasWaldmann | another test for advanced python OOP |
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| 22:24.48 | SRabbelier | borja: not at all close |
| 22:24.50 | summatusmentis | urgh, I think that's like a 13 hour drive from here borja |
| 22:24.53 | chx | Ori_B: why is CORDIC not good enough...? |
| 22:25.03 | SRabbelier | borja: at least not close enough to "swing by" without hopping on a plane |
| 22:25.13 | borja | nods |
| 22:25.29 | summatusmentis | oh, it's only 9.5 hours |
| 22:25.29 | summatusmentis | but still |
| 22:25.57 | summatusmentis | although, depending on timing, I could maybe 'swing by' on my way to visit parents... |
| 22:26.29 | Ori_B | chx: well, I have to find a good explanation of how it works. got a link? |
| 22:27.15 | chx | what, CORDIC??? |
| 22:27.20 | chx | open your favourite algo book |
| 22:27.32 | chx | it's from the fifties... |
| 22:27.35 | chx | lemmeesee |
| 22:27.40 | chx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CORDIC one |
| 22:28.05 | Ori_B | eh. wait, yeah.... |
| 22:28.49 | chx | Ori_B: in general, ask our employer ;) http://www.google.com/search?q=cordic+sin+cos&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=NaM&sa=2 |
| 22:29.06 | Ori_B | yeah. they're all nice and floating point |
| 22:29.09 | Ori_B | :P |
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| 22:29.45 | chx | whaaaaaa? |
| 22:29.59 | Ori_B | the first ones I find, I mean |
| 22:30.14 | chx | CORDIC is not FP |
| 22:30.34 | Ori_B | sorry... er. |
| 22:30.46 | Ori_B | yeah. I don't know what I'm talking about. |
| 22:30.49 | Ori_B | needs sleep. |
| 22:31.21 | chx | when cordic was popular , only some wide eyed engineers were dreaming of fp calculations... |
| 22:31.42 | chx | cordic does not even use a multiplier :p |
| 22:32.58 | chx | also being fifty years old has the advantage of implemented on everything |
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| 23:16.58 | kaiyi2 | is there anyone who will be full time undergrad student in summer and still looking to do gsoc? |
| 23:18.05 | ArthurLiu | kaiyi2, probably a bad idea honestly |
| 23:18.10 | ojwb | kaiyi2: if you mean you've got full time course work, then it's not going to work |
| 23:18.12 | kaiyi2 | like studying while working |
| 23:18.14 | ojwb | you need to be able to work essentially full time |
| 23:18.16 | ojwb | on gsoc |
| 23:18.18 | ojwb | so either gsoc or your course work will suffer |
| 23:18.21 | ojwb | possibly both |
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| 23:19.16 | kaiyi2 | i see what you mean |
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| 23:31.49 | yeonhoo | hi |
| 23:35.00 | rkatiyar | !orgbylang |
| 23:35.00 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 23:36.21 | yeonhoo | could someone can give me a idea about the work hours per week? or per day? in average? |
| 23:36.40 | Catfish_Man | yeonhoo: generally speaking, expect it to be equivalent to a full time internship |
| 23:36.44 | Catfish_Man | i.e. ~40hr/week |
| 23:37.15 | yeonhoo | thank you Catfish_Man |
| 23:37.50 | Emmanuel | Catfish_Man: I have kind of the same question for you |
| 23:38.03 | Emmanuel | I am doing my master's thesis during the summer, which we will take me around 20/25 hours a week |
| 23:38.14 | yeonhoo | it's a little difficult for people in southern hemisphere like me |
| 23:38.19 | Emmanuel | so I am wondering if participating in gsoc is compatible with this |
| 23:38.36 | yeonhoo | not just a little ... it has a huge impact .. |
| 23:38.39 | Catfish_Man | Emmanuel: if you're willing and able to work 60-65 hours a week, or are very skilled and can work very quickly, then it might work |
| 23:38.47 | Catfish_Man | but in general it's not a good idea |
| 23:38.56 | geal | hello, is there someone here working on Melange? Is it possible to add in the birth date's tooltip the expected date format? |
| 23:39.03 | Catfish_Man | geal: try #melange |
| 23:39.09 | geal | thanks |
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| 23:40.46 | Emmanuel | Catfish_Man: do you know if some people managed to do that in some of the previous versions of gsoc? |
| 23:40.57 | Catfish_Man | Emmanuel: I don't remember, sorry |
| 23:41.23 | Emmanuel | ok, thanks :) |
| 23:41.27 | cooki | Emmanuel |
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| 23:41.32 | cooki | i think it is possible |
| 23:41.42 | cooki | because for example i study monday to friday |
| 23:41.55 | cooki | and work 10 hours saturday and 10 hours sunday |
| 23:42.13 | cooki | took time to get used to but it's possible |
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| 23:44.46 | Emmanuel | cooki: yep, I know this is possible, actually I am more concerned about the opinion of the mentors |
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| 23:45.09 | Emmanuel | if they have the choice between two applications, one doing a master and one who is not... |
| 23:45.13 | erisco | How can I contact Google about Google Summer of Code? |
| 23:45.21 | borja | !ask |
| 23:45.21 | socinfo | "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. Meta-questions lead to meta-answers and wasted time. |
| 23:45.29 | Emmanuel | cooki: so you think that would be ok? |
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| 23:46.54 | cooki | well take it from me, invest in a good screen filter or turn the brightness down :p |
| 23:47.39 | Emmanuel | lol ok |
| 23:48.01 | Emmanuel | did you participate in previous version of gsoc? |
| 23:48.19 | cooki | i've worked all day and i'm still going but takes practice |
| 23:48.28 | cooki | no this is my first time |
| 23:48.43 | ojwb | you can do the hours, but the productivity per hour is bound to be lower |
| 23:49.07 | cooki | ojwb: comes with practice |
| 23:49.10 | ojwb | the most productive I've ever been was working about 6 hours a day |
| 23:49.37 | ojwb | believe me, I've had practice working too many hours a week |
| 23:49.43 | Emmanuel | including the weekend? |
| 23:50.52 | cooki | well i tend to spend the first 2 hours waking up :p |
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| 23:52.34 | ojwb | yep |
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| 23:53.56 | cooki | space ur day out and u'll be fine |
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| 23:55.33 | cooki | i tend to have a few long days and a few short days |
| 23:56.05 | cooki | on the long days i do simple no brainer things |
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| 23:56.16 | cooki | like organise and collate |
| 23:56.25 | cooki | shorter days i do more intensive things |
| 23:56.34 | cooki | like actual programming |
| 23:56.43 | Emmanuel | ok |
| 23:56.43 | cooki | works for me anyway |
| 23:57.17 | Emmanuel | how many hours for the long and short days? |
| 23:57.27 | ojwb | the most important thing is to be honest about other commitments so the org can decide if they're happy with iy |
| 23:57.49 | ojwb | if you lie and they find out, you'll get failed |
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| 23:58.06 | ojwb | and it's hard to hide a large other time commitment |
| 23:58.16 | cooki | saturdays and sundays are 10 hours days where i work at call centre but i take in reading material |
| 23:58.32 | Emmanuel | ojwb: sure |
| 23:59.24 | cooki | so i research and plan on these days....then mon to fri my uni is finished by maybe 3pm-4pm if i have any uni at all then i relax until 7pm-8pm |
| 23:59.42 | cooki | then do coding and things until 11ish |
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