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| 00:29.38 | pinochet_ | can i ask you smth? |
| 00:29.52 | pinochet_ | ;-) just joking |
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| 00:31.06 | nixbox | hi |
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| 00:32.14 | nixbox | i am a student on F-1 visa, if i get into GSoC, Google will furnish me a letter for CPT, my question is that can I participate in GSoC and work somewhere else (like do an internship) in parallel? |
| 00:32.45 | nixbox | or for that matter be a research assistant or teaching assistant in my school |
| 00:33.04 | ArthurLiu | nixbox, working in parallel to a gsoc project is *highly* frowned upon |
| 00:33.49 | nixbox | ArthurLiu, i am aware of that, but here work is like my research work, as I am a Ph.D. student, and most likely if i get into GSoC, it will be for projects which are very relevant to what i already do |
| 00:34.17 | ArthurLiu | then good, but tell it to the org and explain the situation |
| 00:34.31 | ArthurLiu | as for the CPT thing, I have no idea, ask americans :) |
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| 00:35.29 | nixbox | ArthurLiu, yes i will do that, so there is no law which will prevent me to participate in summer of code and at the same time be a research/teaching assistant at my school? |
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| 00:35.44 | ojwb | there's no gsoc rule |
| 00:35.50 | ojwb | don't know about american law... |
| 00:36.06 | nixbox | ojwb, hmm i have to find this out. |
| 00:36.17 | ArthurLiu | nixbox, try asking on the mailing list |
| 00:36.27 | ArthurLiu | but search the archive first! |
| 00:36.29 | ojwb | but if you aren't able to spend the equivalent of a full time job on gsoc, you'll probably not do well |
| 00:36.51 | Upthorn | nixbox: My understanding is that you should expect to be spending about 30 hours a week on the gsoc project |
| 00:36.56 | ojwb | and if you don't make the org aware of other commitments, you'll get failed when it comes to light, and you'll have wasted a slot someone could have done better with |
| 00:37.36 | r0bby_ | nixbox: no law prevents you from doing so. Summer of COde is a full time gig |
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| 00:38.21 | nixbox | I understand the importance of making the organization aware of the situation, i will definitely do that |
| 00:38.45 | ojwb | cool |
| 00:38.58 | ojwb | it's happened before, and it's a shame for all concerned |
| 00:39.40 | nixbox | this time it is even more important, considering 1000 positions and rising trend of the number of applicants |
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| 00:40.37 | ojwb | yeah |
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| 00:43.43 | YokoZar | If I want to propose a project that has a strong overlap between two mentoring organizations (likely, it would require a mentor from both), what's the best approach? |
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| 00:47.32 | arma | YokoZar: talk to the two orgs about it. the simplest approach is to pick one org to officially apply to, and then the other org can help out as much as they like. |
| 00:48.52 | arma | speaking from an org perspective, what i'd suggest you do is apply to both. then everybody has maximum flexibility. in practice, you want one main mentor though. having two people demanding things of you can be confusing. |
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| 00:52.35 | YokoZar | Perhaps I should clarify - my project idea, but I wouldn't be the student. What I want could just as easily be a Wine project as an scons project - namely, I want someone to write a script that will migrate a MS Visual Studio project to a winelib-aware, scons-powered, linux-compatible build system |
| 00:53.16 | YokoZar | So I'm currently trying to gather up Wine and Scons people who would mentor that ;) |
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| 00:53.37 | ojwb | talk to both projects |
| 00:53.47 | ojwb | and tell them you're also talking to the other |
| 00:54.22 | ojwb | sounds more related to scons than wine to me though |
| 00:54.59 | ojwb | you may find orgs are not very receptive at this point to ideas that they would have to find mentors for |
| 00:55.14 | YokoZar | ojwb: that was my thinking, but part of it would involve beefing up winelib |
| 00:55.33 | ojwb | i know nothing about winelib beyond its existence |
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| 00:56.08 | YokoZar | ojwb: you and everyone else |
| 00:56.31 | ojwb | that might make it hard to find mentors then! |
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| 01:01.44 | the9a3eedi | looks at mentor list |
| 01:02.02 | the9a3eedi | damn.. nothing seems suitable for a total newbie |
| 01:02.11 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. Tux4Kids |
| 01:02.31 | the9a3eedi | KDE.. hmm.. |
| 01:02.40 | the9a3eedi | I'm sure theres something |
| 01:02.50 | the9a3eedi | but I'd expect to be more variety for newbies to work on. |
| 01:03.07 | the9a3eedi | oh well, the harder the better I suppose :P |
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| 01:04.29 | scorche | GSoC is mostly aimed towards people that already can program quite well, if that is what you are referring to, yes |
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| 01:13.40 | the9a3eedi | scorche: I can program well I suppose, but I am not familiar with working with other people's code, or concepts like video/audio/compression/encryption. |
| 01:14.02 | scorche | never a time like the present to learn =) |
| 01:14.11 | the9a3eedi | so I was hoping to join gsoc in order to learn how to work with other people's code mainly |
| 01:14.24 | scorche | many orgs have ideas that are listed as "easy" on their ideas list...you might want to look for those |
| 01:14.36 | the9a3eedi | yeah, I'm looking at the mentor list, seeing what project I can join, and then I'll check out their source code and read it. |
| 01:14.43 | the9a3eedi | the thing is, I'm rather busy with university work >_< |
| 01:14.59 | Catfish_Man | the9a3eedi: that plan puts you ahead of a lot of other students already ;) |
| 01:15.10 | ojwb | sadly true |
| 01:15.16 | the9a3eedi | I wish I paid more attention to physics (why the hell did I even take that as an elective >_> ) |
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| 01:15.47 | the9a3eedi | so yeah, I was thinking of going for Tux4Kids. it seems pretty simple, I guess |
| 01:15.53 | the9a3eedi | compared to something like GCC |
| 01:16.04 | ojwb | GCC isn't one for the faint hearted |
| 01:16.19 | ojwb | you should expect to work on the project full time for the coding period though |
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| 01:16.31 | the9a3eedi | I'm planning to... |
| 01:16.33 | ojwb | so if you have much uni work to do, it probably won't work |
| 01:16.43 | the9a3eedi | in the summer I shouldn't be having a lot of work |
| 01:16.43 | ojwb | oh, you mean right now |
| 01:16.44 | Catfish_Man | heh, GCC isn't even one for the strong hearted. It's one for the epic heros |
| 01:17.05 | the9a3eedi | I will take 2 courses in the summer only. and one of them I failed in, so I'm rather familiar with it :P |
| 01:17.16 | ojwb | there are some projects out there that get successfully done, and I just can't comprehend how really |
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| 01:17.45 | the9a3eedi | is gcc that much of a mess? or are compilers generally ridiculously hard? |
| 01:17.55 | ojwb | mostly the latter - it's hard stuff |
| 01:18.02 | the9a3eedi | hmm |
| 01:18.03 | ojwb | it's also a big code base |
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| 01:18.15 | the9a3eedi | I see. |
| 01:18.18 | ojwb | and not documented for the totally newcomer level |
| 01:18.50 | the9a3eedi | well I was interested in doing something in assembly as well. problem is I only got experience with assembly and tasm and DOS :P outdated uni course sux |
| 01:19.00 | the9a3eedi | I got an A in that course. |
| 01:19.01 | the9a3eedi | lol |
| 01:19.11 | Catfish_Man | ojwb: I dunno. LLVM is a similarly advanced project |
| 01:19.15 | Catfish_Man | but much more approachable |
| 01:19.15 | the9a3eedi | some guy suggested to me to work on gcc.. I said hell no :P |
| 01:19.40 | ojwb | hasn't looked at LLVM beyond installing it and finding it failed to compile C++ code |
| 01:19.51 | joeyadams | I wouldn't mind doing something for GCC, though I'm afraid a lot of that stuff is way over my head :( |
| 01:19.52 | Catfish_Man | llvm-gcc should work fine on C++ |
| 01:19.59 | Catfish_Man | clang's c++ support is definitely very WIP |
| 01:20.00 | ojwb | I think it required static linking for libstdc++ |
| 01:20.02 | ojwb | or something |
| 01:20.21 | Catfish_Man | ah. Dunno the details, not a C++ guy myself |
| 01:20.26 | Catfish_Man | anyway, dinner calls :) |
| 01:20.51 | the9a3eedi | also, I deleted my linux partition. long story, but ubuntu stopped working due to a change in hardware, and now I'm running it in a VM on Windows Pista. is that alright for devving? |
| 01:21.32 | ojwb | probably, but it's not something I've tried |
| 01:21.34 | the9a3eedi | I've only done simple apps while I was teaching myself qt4, so I'm not sure |
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| 01:25.59 | the9a3eedi | anyways.. back to doing my physics lab report >_< |
| 01:26.06 | the9a3eedi | hates physics |
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| 01:27.03 | WinterMute | anyone know what timezone lh is in? |
| 01:27.16 | ojwb | PDT I believe |
| 01:27.52 | ojwb | well, PDT unless she's travelling, which seems unlikely this week |
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| 04:13.27 | summatusmentis | hello all |
| 04:13.52 | thebolt | hi summatusmentis |
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| 04:24.44 | allen_ | !students |
| 04:24.44 | zooko | c |
| 04:24.45 | socinfo | Error: "students" is not a valid command. |
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| 04:24.49 | allen_ | !student |
| 04:24.49 | socinfo | Error: "student" is not a valid command. |
| 04:24.56 | allen_ | !help |
| 04:24.56 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 04:25.34 | dcr | dcsdcr: ping |
| 04:25.53 | dcsdcr | dcr: pong |
| 04:26.54 | scorche | allen_: looking for something? |
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| 04:28.16 | allen_ | !timeline |
| 04:28.16 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 04:28.23 | allen_ | scorche: yes |
| 04:28.39 | allen_ | scorche: got it, thanks |
| 04:30.22 | lh | at the risk of never actually leaving the office tonight |
| 04:30.29 | lh | anyone looking for feedback on their organization application? |
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| 04:30.47 | Catfish_Man | that's no good |
| 04:30.48 | *** mode/#gsoc [-o summatusmentis] by lh |
| 04:30.54 | lh | Catfish_Man: what's no good? |
| 04:30.58 | Catfish_Man | never leaving the office |
| 04:31.07 | scorche | lh: you can give me feedback on mine if you wish =) |
| 04:31.16 | Catfish_Man | makes some tea for lh and the channel |
| 04:31.18 | lh | it's cool, it happens. gotta chug through the old inbox. |
| 04:31.22 | lh | Catfish_Man: thank you dear |
| 04:31.32 | lh | scorche: rockbox is awesome. you were accepted. that is all. |
| 04:31.32 | dberkholz | my inbox is a lost cause |
| 04:31.36 | scorche | \o/ |
| 04:31.42 | homunq | lh: can I ask you some more-specific questions about when I'd have to decide (have decided)? between being admin/mentor for Sugarlabs or student for apertium? |
| 04:31.43 | lh | dberkholz: dear god. mine too. |
| 04:31.43 | scorche | lh: and sugar labs! =) |
| 04:31.55 | lh | homunq: you need to decide by Monday. |
| 04:32.06 | lh | student application period opens you need to have made up your mind |
| 04:32.10 | lh | scorche: darn skippy. |
| 04:32.11 | homunq | :( |
| 04:32.13 | homunq | OK |
| 04:32.14 | zooko | lh: feedback please. tahoe http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/wiki/GSoCIdeas |
| 04:32.23 | hypa7ia | lh: does that mean we need to have all mentors signed up by then? |
| 04:32.35 | zooko | Also, if you are up for it, ideas about how to put my top-notch mentors to work this summer even without GSoC sponshorship. |
| 04:32.44 | homunq | lh: no sense arguing with that? |
| 04:32.50 | zooko | I've already asked PSF for some of their slots, and I might get 1. |
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| 04:33.58 | lh | zooko: one moment please |
| 04:34.10 | lh | hypa7ia: no this is my relatively arbitrary line in the sand |
| 04:34.25 | lh | zooko: that's fantastic. exactly what we want to hear. |
| 04:34.36 | zooko | Ah, well, it might not really work out. |
| 04:34.45 | zooko | Our mentors, and our ideas, are not too much along the lines of contributing to Python. |
| 04:34.46 | lh | hypa7ia: you can technically sign up mentors throughout the program, but all student proposals must be matched to a mentor by april 15th |
| 04:34.58 | zooko | So the PSF folks were a bit cool on giving us slots. |
| 04:35.27 | zooko | Our most important ideas, and the expertise of our best mentors, are more along the lines of distributed systems, security, cloud storage, cryptography, and JavaScript. |
| 04:35.47 | zooko | So, I'll keep shopping around for othr accepted orgs who might want to share students. |
| 04:35.48 | lh | homunq: not really no. please make everyone's life easier and decide what you want to do sooner rather than later. otherwise it causes uncertainty for all, including you, and that can be difficult. :) |
| 04:36.04 | lh | zooko: talk to hypa7ia |
| 04:36.08 | lh | and the honeynte folks |
| 04:36.14 | lh | globus folks |
| 04:36.21 | lh | ok let me actually look at the application now |
| 04:36.22 | zooko | Also I'm going to think about how to find a couple of students who will learn from my mentors without GSoC sponsorship. |
| 04:36.34 | lh | zooko: i have a cunning plan. |
| 04:36.40 | zooko | looks at hypa7ia. |
| 04:36.46 | lh | i have to have time to propose it to the right folks, hoping to do that tomorrow. |
| 04:36.52 | zooko | He/she/they are asleep. |
| 04:36.57 | homunq | OK. You're right, having to decide now makes the decision easier. |
| 04:36.57 | zooko | Great! I love cunning plans! |
| 04:37.25 | homunq | If I could have skated with both possibilities open, I might have waited to see if I got in |
| 04:37.35 | zooko | homunq: :-) Interesting how that works. |
| 04:37.48 | homunq | but a bird in the hand. I am not going to leave sugarlabs hanging for vapor. |
| 04:38.39 | zooko | lh: thanks for the references to honeynte and globus. I'll check them out. |
| 04:38.43 | r0bby_ | sighs |
| 04:38.45 | ojwb | zooko: she |
| 04:38.51 | ojwb | got that wrong yesterday |
| 04:39.28 | hypa7ia | lh: cool, thanks, we're just in the process now of recruiting more mentors so we can hopefully have 2 per student |
| 04:39.56 | lh | hypa7ia: lovely. :) |
| 04:40.05 | lh | zooko: i am sorry the phone is ringing. wtf. one sec. |
| 04:40.06 | zooko | Hello hypa7ia. What project are you working with? |
| 04:40.10 | zooko | lh: ok. |
| 04:40.39 | hypa7ia | zooko: xelerance, which is openswan / some dnssec tools / off-the-record messaging |
| 04:40.50 | hypa7ia | http://www.xelerance.com/GSoC2009/ |
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| 04:42.10 | zooko | Sweet! |
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| 04:42.36 | hypa7ia | zooko: indeed! we're really excited :) |
| 04:43.54 | zooko | Good for you! |
| 04:44.23 | zooko | Your ideas wouldn't do my Tahoe project any good, but nonetheless I'll tell my mentors about you. Also, you should feel free to contact them -- they are listed |
| 04:44.43 | zooko | http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/wiki/GSoCIdeas |
| 04:45.29 | hypa7ia | nifty, checking it out |
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| 04:47.22 | zooko | I will announce to the tahoe mailing list about our non-sponsorship from GSoC, and I guess in that announcement I'll mention your project and your need for mentors. |
| 04:47.59 | hypa7ia | cool, thanks! |
| 04:48.16 | hypa7ia | we're only going to take on students up to a 1:1 ratio |
| 04:49.06 | hypa7ia | since it's our first year |
| 04:49.07 | hypa7ia | and we have the advantage of 3/4 of the mentors so far being in the same city |
| 04:49.07 | zooko | lh: it's past my bedtime here. If that makes it easier for you to take abreak fro work then all the better. |
| 04:49.07 | hypa7ia | and we all hang out at the hackerspace in toronto :) |
| 04:49.07 | zooko | I'm eager to get feedback to include in my mail to the tahoe community. |
| 04:49.15 | zooko | I used to live in Toronto. I wonder if I know any of you. |
| 04:49.15 | lh | why individuals cannot learn to use irc like civilized people is beyond me |
| 04:49.26 | lh | zooko: i am ready looking now |
| 04:49.41 | lh | ok so ideas list |
| 04:49.55 | lh | needs more things like programming languages one needs to know, categorization by easy medium and hard |
| 04:50.01 | zooko | nods. |
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| 04:50.44 | the9a3eedi | also needs a list of libraries/api's one needs to know, yes? |
| 04:50.52 | lh | yes that would be most helpful |
| 04:51.18 | zooko | the9a3eedi: do you mean my Ideas list in particular? |
| 04:51.27 | the9a3eedi | nah, just in general |
| 04:51.38 | the9a3eedi | I haven't seen yours yet |
| 04:51.45 | the9a3eedi | you a mentor? |
| 04:51.47 | zooko | nods. |
| 04:51.52 | phrozn1 | @lh or anyone else: how is the amount of students a mentoring organization can take on determined? |
| 04:52.00 | zooko | I offered to be a mentor for Tahoe for GSoC. |
| 04:52.09 | the9a3eedi | Tahoe? .. sounds like Touhou :P |
| 04:52.15 | dioms | Is there a posibility for a high school student to attend GSoC? |
| 04:52.25 | zooko | What's Touhou? |
| 04:52.36 | hypa7ia | lh: irc is Really Confusing for the uninitiated :/ |
| 04:52.40 | Catfish_Man | dioms: by getting very quickly accepted to college, yes. Otherwise, you'll need to wait |
| 04:52.40 | lh | phrozn1: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 04:52.59 | zooko | I don't particularly like the name "Tahoe", and when technically referring to the protocol/spec/format I call it "Least-Authority Filesystem", but names are sticky. |
| 04:52.59 | lh | hypa7ia: no no i understand. i just have an aversion to quick update phone calls. |
| 04:53.07 | dioms | So if i am accepted I can apply? |
| 04:53.07 | the9a3eedi | zooko: it's a vertical shooter game... one of those "bullet insanity" games. Search for "Perfect Cherry Blossom on hard clear" on youtube :P |
| 04:53.24 | the9a3eedi | the impressive thing is that the entire game, along with the music and programming, is done by one person |
| 04:53.30 | the9a3eedi | who calls himself "zun" |
| 04:53.40 | hypa7ia | lh: oh! gotcha :) that is indeed what irc / im is for :p |
| 04:53.42 | lh | zooko: that's all i have for you right now. |
| 04:53.45 | phrozn1 | @lh: thanks! |
| 04:53.54 | zooko | lh: got more feedback for me? I think that the pre-announced criteria of previous GSoC participation and being a "big" project must have counted against us. |
| 04:53.55 | lh | hypa7ia: exactly. :) |
| 04:53.59 | lh | phrozn1: np |
| 04:54.01 | the9a3eedi | googles tahoe |
| 04:54.03 | hypa7ia | phrozn1: thanks for asking that, was wondering too |
| 04:54.03 | zooko | lh: okay, thanks! |
| 04:54.06 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. Chevrolet Tahoe.. |
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| 04:54.07 | lh | zooko: big project? |
| 04:54.10 | zooko | http://allmydata.org |
| 04:54.11 | araujo | looks around |
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| 04:54.25 | dberkholz | araujo: you need to recruit a unify student to mentor this year |
| 04:54.29 | the9a3eedi | there we go :P |
| 04:54.32 | araujo | sees lh working hard as usual |
| 04:54.44 | lh | araujo: powered by love amigo. |
| 04:54.44 | phrozn1 | if irc went multimedia enriched and pretty themes it could go mainstream |
| 04:54.46 | zooko | lh: I believe the docs said that having many users, a large impact, something like that counted for GSoC selection. |
| 04:54.50 | the9a3eedi | hmm looks interesting |
| 04:54.55 | araujo | dberkholz, ? |
| 04:54.56 | lh | zooko: it does help but is not required. |
| 04:55.00 | araujo | dberkholz, i will apply likely |
| 04:55.04 | lh | niche projects look less attractive. |
| 04:55.06 | araujo | lh, thanks :) |
| 04:55.07 | dberkholz | araujo: for the same project again? |
| 04:55.07 | zooko | Yeah, Tahoe, I mean LAFS, I mean http://allmydata.org is extremely cool. |
| 04:55.24 | araujo | dberkholz, yes, among any other I guess |
| 04:55.32 | scorche | lh: free couch! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/zip/1083039386.html |
| 04:55.43 | dberkholz | araujo: ah, i thought you might mentor someone else for it instead |
| 04:55.47 | lh | oh that is so awesome |
| 04:56.00 | zooko | Okay, thanks for the feedback. Chat later. |
| 04:56.25 | araujo | dberkholz, I need to be *mentored* for it actually |
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| 04:56.34 | araujo | not the other way round :P |
| 04:56.53 | lh | thinks araujo would be an asset to whatever project he's interested in |
| 04:56.58 | araujo | lh, haha .. love is good :) |
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| 04:57.11 | araujo | lh, haha.. hope so!, yes |
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| 04:57.18 | hypa7ia | is that so, hey araujo, are you interested in networking / security stuff? |
| 04:57.19 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 04:57.23 | lh | araujo: we are all about the love. |
| 04:57.35 | lh | distributes the free gsoc love. near the free couch. |
| 04:57.37 | scorche | open source love! |
| 04:57.38 | araujo | hypa7ia, haha ... not much, are you mentoring one for it? |
| 04:57.46 | lh | so while i am at it and not getting anything done |
| 04:57.49 | araujo | lh, :) |
| 04:57.57 | araujo | lh, just got back from an art exposition! |
| 04:58.01 | lh | are any of y'all on identi.ca or twitter so that i may follow thee? |
| 04:58.07 | hypa7ia | araujo: yup! xelerance (openswan/dnssec/off-the-record messaging) |
| 04:58.11 | hypa7ia | lh: hypatiadotca |
| 04:58.20 | araujo | hypa7ia, I will check it :) |
| 04:58.30 | lh | araujo: i read that as art explosion. i was trying to figure out what the heck you were talking about. thought it must be some kind of performance art thing. |
| 04:58.34 | lh | hypa7ia: merci |
| 04:58.44 | araujo | lh, oh yeah, they did performance too |
| 04:59.11 | lh | hypa7ia: i already follow you on twitter, you on identi.ca? |
| 04:59.16 | lh | araujo: cool! |
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| 04:59.31 | hypa7ia | i think i'm hypatia on there, i should really get my tweets posting there |
| 04:59.40 | araujo | lh, :) |
| 04:59.52 | hypa7ia | yup! hypatia on there |
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| 04:59.58 | thebolt | lh: not sure i should get on there.. might take away even more time in my busy life ;) |
| 05:00.00 | devvrat | found one gsoc apllication : http://techfreaks4u.com/ShashankSingh/Google_SoC_Panoramio_Wikipedia_integration_in_Marble_ACCEPTED.pdf |
| 05:00.05 | thebolt | hi btw.. :) |
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| 05:00.27 | zooko | lh: I look forward to hearing about your cunning plan, which |
| 05:00.27 | zooko | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.29 | zooko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:00.51 | zooko | lh: one idea I have is to talk to students that aren't accepted for GSoC sponsorship themselves. |
| 05:00.53 | the9a3eedi | zooko: I'm guessing the Tohoe filesystem doesn't have anything for absolute beginners to realworld programming :P |
| 05:01.05 | mmadia | A potential student asked if i could review their application before sending it to the organization that i'm adminstrating. Would this cause any issues? |
| 05:01.12 | lh | zooko: that's alla part of the cunning plan. :) |
| 05:01.20 | lh | mmadia: not at all you go right ahead |
| 05:01.21 | scorche | mmadia: not at all |
| 05:01.35 | zooko | the9a3eedi: I'm not thinking of anything right now that would fit. |
| 05:01.41 | scorche | mmadia: we encourage students to do that, actually...it helps to open up communication lines too =) |
| 05:01.43 | mmadia | thanks : lh and scorche |
| 05:01.44 | araujo | mmadia, that'd be good instead |
| 05:01.50 | zooko | Hopefully we'll get our Ideas page organized so that I can look at it in order to answer your question. :-) |
| 05:01.52 | ojwb | interestingly, of the 4 students swig mentored last year, one stayed around actively. But upon asking the others if their projects would be suitable for further work this year, one has started committing changes to his and another has offered to mentor this year! |
| 05:02.14 | scorche | ojwb: awesome |
| 05:02.16 | the9a3eedi | zooko: kk.. will follow up. Got an IRC channel I can idle in? |
| 05:02.18 | lh | ojwb: that is fantastic news. :) |
| 05:02.30 | zooko | the9a3eedi: #tahoe on freenode -- friendly place. |
| 05:02.33 | ojwb | so I guess the moral is to keep in touch more |
| 05:02.40 | the9a3eedi | zooko: awesome, thanks |
| 05:02.44 | zooko | Good night folks! I hear my pillow calling to me! |
| 05:02.49 | ojwb | what is the average "retention rate"? |
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| 05:03.12 | ojwb | or is it something we aren't really tracking overall? |
| 05:03.46 | lh | ojwb: gsocer survey coming soon. we will track committer status, etc. |
| 05:04.51 | devvrat | how many application s are received by orgs |
| 05:04.56 | hypa7ia | lh: one favour to ask - i'd like to read through the mentors email list archive, would it be possible to get approved for that? |
| 05:05.07 | hypa7ia | i'm in training tomorrow and will have spare cycles :) |
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| 05:05.19 | lh | hypa7ia: yep totally hang on one sec |
| 05:05.32 | lh | gets on it |
| 05:05.36 | hypa7ia | lh: muchas gracias |
| 05:05.42 | ojwb | devvrat: last year, about 7000 applications from about 3000 students |
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| 05:05.54 | ojwb | in total |
| 05:05.57 | dberkholz | i think there's a lot of room to convert people who "stay involved" to committers, and i think that's currently our biggest problem |
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| 05:06.33 | lh | hypa7ia: de nada amiga, mira a tu |
| 05:06.40 | devvrat | ojwb: The bigger ones must be getting around 100 applications atleast |
| 05:06.48 | lh | araujo: como se dice "inbox" en espanol? |
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| 05:07.05 | joeyadams | dberkholz> I didn't quite understand that sentence |
| 05:07.05 | araujo | lh, "bandeja de entrada" |
| 05:07.13 | araujo | lh, a little bit long :) |
| 05:07.15 | devvrat | ojwb: And the newly or smaller ones??? |
| 05:07.19 | ojwb | devvrat: yes, i'd imagine so |
| 05:07.32 | thebolt | lh: twitter, identica or both? ;) |
| 05:07.41 | ojwb | I think swig got between 10 and 20 last year total |
| 05:07.44 | lh | thebolt: both |
| 05:07.52 | lh | araujo: my goodness that is long |
| 05:08.00 | lh | hypa7ia: for the sake of brevity i will just say inbox. |
| 05:08.02 | thebolt | lh: hm.. why? :) means twice as much to write ;) |
| 05:08.04 | devvrat | ojwb: thanks for the stats |
| 05:08.11 | araujo | lh, haha yeah... compared to the english word |
| 05:08.14 | hypa7ia | oh man |
| 05:08.16 | lh | thebolt: ping.fm / copy paste ftw |
| 05:08.17 | dberkholz | joeyadams: there's basically 3 classes of students. those who disappear, those who become committers, and those who are somewhere between -- in limbo |
| 05:08.22 | lh | hypa7ia: sup? |
| 05:08.30 | lh | most of the stuff on the mentors list is not that interesting |
| 05:08.30 | freebsdgirl | *glare* |
| 05:08.30 | devvrat | is Boost c++ new this year |
| 05:08.30 | hypa7ia | that reminds me of the amazing french technical translation page i found |
| 05:08.32 | homunq | lh: plenty of spanish-speakers just say inbox |
| 05:08.35 | lh | may i suggest the summit wiki |
| 05:08.38 | thebolt | lh: hehe, true.. okay :) |
| 05:08.40 | ojwb | but that includes at least two total junk ones - generic and short - I think people applying to every org |
| 05:08.42 | hypa7ia | script kiddie = "pirate adolescent" |
| 05:08.44 | lh | s in trouble with the wife clearly |
| 05:08.49 | ojwb | might have been more, memory is hazy |
| 05:09.12 | joeyadams | dberkholz> By committer, do you mean someone who commits to working on GNOME, or just someone who commits changes? |
| 05:09.15 | araujo | devvrat, I think they participated last year too |
| 05:09.33 | dberkholz | i've never even imagined using the term committer for the former |
| 05:09.34 | lh | hypa7ia: start here, really. http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 05:09.43 | lh | much better resource to begin with |
| 05:09.47 | dberkholz | committing to working on something is meaningless |
| 05:09.51 | dberkholz | actually doing the work is what matters |
| 05:09.55 | lh | leaves office so as to not make freebsdgirl have cause to make her sleep on the couch. |
| 05:10.02 | freebsdgirl | that's right, woman. |
| 05:10.08 | freebsdgirl | :P |
| 05:10.09 | the9a3eedi | lh: no resources for students in that link? :( |
| 05:10.09 | hypa7ia | lh: interesting, thanks - have run into a couple of specific gotchas so far that i'm curious how others have resolved |
| 05:10.15 | joeyadams | So committing to committing is meaningless, committing is what matters :) |
| 05:10.28 | freebsdgirl | dons $pants |
| 05:10.29 | lh | the9a3eedi: there is an entire advice for students wiki page |
| 05:10.37 | the9a3eedi | orly |
| 05:10.37 | lh | disappears in a puff of don't kill me randi |
| 05:11.04 | ojwb | freebsdgirl: won't don mind? |
| 05:11.05 | hypa7ia | freebsdgirl: http://pantsstatus.com |
| 05:11.09 | dberkholz | committing to doing work is only useful in that it pressures you to actually doing the work, the important part |
| 05:11.33 | freebsdgirl | hypa7ia: that's awesome. |
| 05:11.43 | scorche | pants are overrated |
| 05:11.49 | Landon | hypa7ia: WHAAAAAAAt :O |
| 05:12.06 | hypa7ia | Landon: SO AWESOME |
| 05:12.06 | Landon | whatever happened to pantsd |
| 05:12.22 | Landon | hypa7ia: I made a plugin for gozerbot to store pants status last summer :P |
| 05:12.43 | freebsdgirl | the name of my desktop at work is pants. |
| 05:12.53 | dberkholz | pants status: load 10? |
| 05:13.19 | Landon | o.O |
| 05:13.20 | hypa7ia | it's traditional to post a pants status tweet when someone leaves a machine unlocked at hackerspaces |
| 05:13.31 | ojwb | this all sounds much smuttier to me than it is presumably meant to be |
| 05:13.38 | ojwb | (pants are underwear in the UK) |
| 05:13.45 | hypa7ia | ojwb: oh right, forgot about that |
| 05:13.50 | Landon | ojwb: (no pants are underwear in US) |
| 05:13.52 | Landon | hehe |
| 05:13.54 | freebsdgirl | at one of the companies i worked at, if you left your workstation out we'd call it "baggy pants" and email the staff saying that person had free doughnuts or pie. |
| 05:13.56 | Landon | well, usually |
| 05:14.02 | devvrat | ojwb: :) |
| 05:14.07 | freebsdgirl | Landon: they are? |
| 05:14.16 | Landon | well, unless you're going commando |
| 05:14.45 | Landon | or have other extenuating circumstances |
| 05:15.06 | devvrat | The discssion seems to be on Google summer of pants :P |
| 05:15.09 | Landon | such as a UTILIKILT |
| 05:15.23 | hypa7ia | freebsdgirl: i work at a security co, we do that too... the silliness of the emails kept escalating though |
| 05:15.26 | ojwb | forget GSoC t-shirts... |
| 05:15.28 | Landon | devvrat: google boxers... who wouldn't support OSS for those |
| 05:15.29 | hypa7ia | then there was the bacon incident |
| 05:15.34 | hypa7ia | which i won't detail :( |
| 05:15.36 | freebsdgirl | hypa7ia: heh, this was a security company. |
| 05:15.47 | freebsdgirl | what is up with bacon and open source? |
| 05:15.55 | pxia | bacon is delicious |
| 05:15.57 | pxia | so is open source |
| 05:16.13 | hypa7ia | http://baconcamp.org/ |
| 05:16.14 | Landon | is reminded of Psychonauts |
| 05:16.23 | Landon | I think it'd be better revised as what is up with bacon and awesome |
| 05:16.31 | Landon | there's no un-awesome when it comes to bacon |
| 05:16.37 | freebsdgirl | my coworkers own bacon in a can. the idea is just... staggering. |
| 05:16.54 | Landon | http://foodproof.com/blogs/view/post/atheist-holiday-food-396 |
| 05:17.12 | Landon | I invite you to take a gander at the ... TURBACONDUCKEN |
| 05:18.07 | hypa7ia | Landon: that's terrifying |
| 05:18.18 | Landon | yet amazing |
| 05:18.38 | Oompa | freebsdgirl: Baconsalt? |
| 05:18.52 | Ori_B | Landon: was that pun intentional? |
| 05:19.07 | Landon | Ori_B: you caught me :( |
| 05:19.08 | Landon | hehehe |
| 05:19.37 | impl | Has anyone here actually tried Baconnaise? |
| 05:20.02 | the9a3eedi | question: is beef bacon sold anywhere in north america? |
| 05:20.03 | Ori_B | goes to bed. |
| 05:20.12 | Oompa | Beef bacon? |
| 05:20.16 | Oompa | Blasphemy. |
| 05:20.22 | the9a3eedi | sure. |
| 05:20.29 | the9a3eedi | some people can't eat pork :P |
| 05:20.34 | Landon | declares success on his war with drupal |
| 05:20.36 | Oompa | Then it's not bacon |
| 05:20.39 | the9a3eedi | lol |
| 05:20.39 | Landon | http://www.lfowles.org/projects/ |
| 05:20.44 | pxia | beef bacon is not bacon |
| 05:20.47 | impl | They have turkey bacon too, Oompa |
| 05:20.50 | pxia | it's like 'turkey bacon' |
| 05:20.52 | Oompa | that's not bacon |
| 05:20.52 | pxia | e;fb |
| 05:21.05 | the9a3eedi | then what is it? :P |
| 05:21.12 | pxia | bacon-style turkey |
| 05:21.12 | impl | It's turkey. :P |
| 05:21.19 | Oompa | pxia is correct |
| 05:21.25 | freebsdgirl | i think turkey bacon is acceptable. |
| 05:21.25 | the9a3eedi | ok then |
| 05:21.29 | freebsdgirl | i do not like pork bacon. |
| 05:21.33 | the9a3eedi | is bacon-style beef sold anywhere in north america? :P |
| 05:21.34 | Oompa | I don't think it's acceptable. |
| 05:21.36 | Oompa | It's not bacon. |
| 05:21.43 | Oompa | the9a3eedi: likely |
| 05:21.47 | freebsdgirl | your face is bacon. |
| 05:21.55 | impl | your mom is bacon. |
| 05:22.02 | the9a3eedi | All the bacon in the world couldn't save you now |
| 05:22.03 | freebsdgirl | ^5 |
| 05:22.04 | the9a3eedi | All the bacon in the world couldn't save you now |
| 05:22.06 | the9a3eedi | cuz |
| 05:22.10 | tcoppi | bacon wrapped bacon |
| 05:22.10 | the9a3eedi | ITS A LAZER |
| 05:22.12 | the9a3eedi | ITS A LAZER |
| 05:22.27 | freebsdgirl | someone recently found their up button. congrats. |
| 05:22.32 | hypa7ia | you can't lazzor bacon |
| 05:22.46 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: it's sold at halal butchers |
| 05:22.50 | pxia | that is a lot of irssi |
| 05:22.54 | hypa7ia | hehe |
| 05:22.55 | freebsdgirl | pxia: don't touch me there. |
| 05:22.57 | mmadia | hello pxia |
| 05:23.01 | hypa7ia | client of the future! |
| 05:23.01 | the9a3eedi | http://dagobah.biz/flash/All_the_bacon_in_the_world.swf <-- reference to this |
| 05:23.03 | Landon | oohoohoo |
| 05:23.11 | pxia | i usually get a lot of khaled mardam-bey |
| 05:23.21 | freebsdgirl | mirc isn't very opensourcey. |
| 05:23.21 | Landon | pxia: not on freenode! |
| 05:23.24 | impl | You're in a developer channel now. :P |
| 05:23.29 | freebsdgirl | lh is home |
| 05:23.29 | freebsdgirl | bbl |
| 05:23.40 | the9a3eedi | freebsdgirl: I hate mirc |
| 05:23.42 | hypa7ia | you can't lazor bacon because it makes too many carcinogens :( |
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| 05:23.49 | the9a3eedi | well, I hate the constant nagging by it :P |
| 05:23.59 | impl | You should pay for it then :P |
| 05:24.00 | hypa7ia | it's like bbq^infinity |
| 05:24.05 | the9a3eedi | I dont like it either :P |
| 05:24.12 | the9a3eedi | so I wouldn't pay for it |
| 05:24.13 | the9a3eedi | in the end |
| 05:24.16 | the9a3eedi | I switched to HydraIRC.. looks more modern |
| 05:24.19 | impl | Makes sense :> |
| 05:24.20 | the9a3eedi | and is nicer |
| 05:24.28 | Landon | irssiiii |
| 05:24.29 | Landon | :P |
| 05:24.35 | the9a3eedi | irssi? |
| 05:24.36 | impl | I just don't use IRC on Windows |
| 05:24.40 | impl | all of the client suck. |
| 05:24.48 | the9a3eedi | HydraIRC is pretty nice. |
| 05:24.48 | impl | clients* |
| 05:24.51 | pxia | xchat! good for all platforms |
| 05:24.56 | the9a3eedi | a lot of features arent implemented yet |
| 05:25.00 | Landon | the9a3eedi: google it |
| 05:25.03 | the9a3eedi | xchat is nice, but on windows its not free :P |
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| 05:25.07 | impl | HydraIRC doesn't support IPv6 :( |
| 05:25.19 | the9a3eedi | impl: meh.. nothing supports IPv6 :P |
| 05:25.26 | ojwb | you just have to build it yourself don't you? |
| 05:25.28 | thebolt | impl: i do.. indirectly.. ssh to a shell, run screen + irssi :) |
| 05:25.29 | impl | irssi does. :> |
| 05:25.37 | impl | thebolt: Well, I mean, that's what I do too |
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| 05:26.16 | the9a3eedi | googles irssi |
| 05:26.24 | the9a3eedi | "Irssi - the client of the future" |
| 05:26.25 | the9a3eedi | interesting |
| 05:26.46 | the9a3eedi | text-based? :P hows that "of the future?" :P |
| 05:26.52 | the9a3eedi | but that's all irc needs I guess :P |
| 05:27.00 | impl | Indeed |
| 05:27.02 | impl | it works well |
| 05:27.32 | the9a3eedi | I still prefer a gui though |
| 05:27.43 | PulpFictionPB | i was wondering, can we include some images in our applications (some diagrams specifically) so to make understanding better? |
| 05:28.00 | impl | PulpFictionPB: I don't see why not... |
| 05:28.03 | the9a3eedi | like.. nondeterministic Finite Automata :P |
| 05:28.44 | PulpFictionPB | on the pages of previous organizations, a very short abstract is there for all the projects. do we get a chance to write that ourselves? |
| 05:28.56 | impl | PulpFictionPB: Yep |
| 05:29.09 | nixbox | the9a3eedi, in this case "future" alludes to Einstein's quote about world war IV :P |
| 05:29.34 | the9a3eedi | nixbox: haven't heard that quote before |
| 05:29.35 | the9a3eedi | googles |
| 05:30.01 | the9a3eedi | awesome quote |
| 05:31.01 | nixbox | hehe |
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| 06:03.21 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 06:14.00 | anirudh | :P |
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| 06:15.30 | anirudh | tell me to ? |
| 06:15.52 | anirudh | !next |
| 06:15.52 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 06:16.44 | homunq | PulpFictionPB: of COURSE. |
| 06:17.00 | homunq | oops was not scrolled down. |
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| 06:20.59 | the9a3eedi | question: |
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| 06:21.09 | the9a3eedi | if I got accepted into gsoc |
| 06:21.13 | the9a3eedi | as a student |
| 06:21.23 | the9a3eedi | but then failed miserably into meeting my goal |
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| 06:21.33 | the9a3eedi | does that mean that next time it's impossible for me to join gsoc? |
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| 06:22.27 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: it seems unlikely |
| 06:22.53 | the9a3eedi | but it does give you a bad reputation :P |
| 06:23.01 | the9a3eedi | I wonder if they look at it though |
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| 06:24.08 | antarus | !timeline |
| 06:24.08 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 06:24.33 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: my understanding is that previous student performance is taken into consideration |
| 06:25.29 | the9a3eedi | hypa7ia: so even university grades? :S I havent been doing well lately :P |
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| 06:25.50 | the9a3eedi | though I must say I got straight A's on all my programming courses:P |
| 06:26.09 | the9a3eedi | its just the electives that I dont seem to do well in.. and some math courses |
| 06:27.13 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: i wasn't talking about grades |
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| 06:27.29 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: your comment implied you'd done a gsoc before and not completed it |
| 06:27.44 | hypa7ia | is that the case? |
| 06:27.53 | the9a3eedi | hypa7ia: nope, this is my first time. But I'm worried that I wont do a good job |
| 06:28.19 | hypa7ia | why are you worried? |
| 06:28.20 | the9a3eedi | to be specific, I'm worried I won't be able to manage myself into meeting deadlines in time |
| 06:28.25 | hypa7ia | hmm |
| 06:28.27 | hypa7ia | i hear that |
| 06:28.30 | the9a3eedi | I procrastinate a lot :P |
| 06:28.37 | hypa7ia | does too |
| 06:28.40 | the9a3eedi | lol |
| 06:28.54 | ojwb | it is something you need to get around |
| 06:28.55 | hypa7ia | the key there is to ask for help when you need it |
| 06:28.59 | impl | Receiving money [should] make you feel obligated to do something |
| 06:29.03 | impl | :x |
| 06:29.03 | the9a3eedi | yeah. |
| 06:29.05 | hypa7ia | and give frequent updates |
| 06:29.06 | ojwb | mentors can help, but only so much |
| 06:29.09 | hypa7ia | impl: well, yeah |
| 06:29.13 | ojwb | and it's not really their job to chase you all the time |
| 06:29.17 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: treat it as a job |
| 06:29.23 | lh | frequent updates ftw! |
| 06:29.26 | lh | it is a job. |
| 06:29.27 | the9a3eedi | my main motivation though is to learn mre about opensource and realworld coding |
| 06:29.28 | hypa7ia | because, well, it is one |
| 06:29.35 | lh | i think status update reports motivate you to keep getting stuff done. |
| 06:29.41 | lh | at least it does for me. |
| 06:29.43 | hypa7ia | lh: you type too quickly for my feeble hands |
| 06:29.51 | grogs987 | motivation is money, learning, and cv boosting |
| 06:29.56 | grogs987 | maybe not in that order |
| 06:30.00 | the9a3eedi | hypa7ia: unlike a job, this is done through the internet, whereas in a job you actually wake up int he morning and go to your cubicle/office/etc. :P |
| 06:30.03 | scorche | hypa7ia: actually, i wish that there was some sort of track record accessible...we had a student last year the bombed...we found out later about him participating in the year before that and doing the exact same thing with just disappearing on that org... |
| 06:30.12 | scorche | s/the bombed/that bombed |
| 06:30.13 | ojwb | doesn't |
| 06:30.19 | hypa7ia | scorche: indeed, i was just thinking that |
| 06:30.22 | ojwb | wakes up in the afternoon and goes to the dining table |
| 06:30.25 | ojwb | or office |
| 06:30.30 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: can you find a local mentor? |
| 06:30.31 | lh | hypa7ia: it's one of my few talents |
| 06:30.38 | hypa7ia | one of the students i want to work with is local |
| 06:30.42 | hypa7ia | which is awesomeness |
| 06:30.44 | thebolt | lh: unless you got it earlier.. on both said services now under the name msvanfeldt |
| 06:30.45 | the9a3eedi | hypa7ia: I havent looked at the mentor list yet |
| 06:30.51 | the9a3eedi | I've been rather busy recently |
| 06:30.51 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: whereabouts are you? |
| 06:30.55 | MaNI | the9a3eedi, some jobs are done through the internet as well |
| 06:30.56 | lh | okay motivator # next - contributing to a cool community providing code to the world without charge. |
| 06:30.58 | the9a3eedi | heck, it's 2:30AM and I'm working on a lab report |
| 06:30.58 | lh | ahem. |
| 06:31.08 | lh | thebolt: i did not |
| 06:31.09 | the9a3eedi | MaNI: I know that, but most people dont do that |
| 06:31.09 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: are you in ontario :p |
| 06:31.11 | lh | goes to do stuff |
| 06:31.14 | the9a3eedi | hypa7ia: ottawa :P |
| 06:31.18 | hypa7ia | no wai |
| 06:31.21 | the9a3eedi | true. |
| 06:31.21 | grogs987 | it's 6:30am and i've been writing an essay |
| 06:31.24 | hypa7ia | <-- toronto, but is from ontario |
| 06:31.26 | hypa7ia | er ottawa |
| 06:31.27 | the9a3eedi | nice. |
| 06:31.27 | grogs987 | (for a comp sci degree :S ) |
| 06:31.36 | the9a3eedi | I'm in Carleton uni.. compsci |
| 06:31.46 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: there are lots of awesome foss peeps in ottawa |
| 06:31.49 | hypa7ia | one of our mentors is |
| 06:31.51 | the9a3eedi | hmm? |
| 06:31.59 | hypa7ia | free/open source |
| 06:32.16 | the9a3eedi | any chance I may know them (i.e. .. carleton uni profs? ) |
| 06:32.25 | lh | thebolt: following |
| 06:32.29 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: i'd really recommend you try to find local mentors if you're worried about treating things as a job |
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| 06:32.49 | tote | how many people can each org accept is there a limit? |
| 06:32.51 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: not profs |
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| 06:33.06 | hypa7ia | but there are some profs there involved in FOSS... dru lavigne? |
| 06:33.08 | MaNI | the9a3eedi, more then you might think. Regardless it is done so you can't differentiate it from a real job based on this fact |
| 06:33.13 | lh | tote: lots of factors |
| 06:33.15 | lh | !allocations |
| 06:33.16 | socinfo | Error: "allocations" is not a valid command. |
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| 06:33.19 | lh | we need that |
| 06:33.31 | hypa7ia | lemme find it |
| 06:33.34 | the9a3eedi | hmm |
| 06:33.46 | lh | tote: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 06:33.53 | tote | lh: tanks :) |
| 06:33.56 | lh | tote: np |
| 06:34.01 | grogs987 | what does this channel get used for during the actual summer? |
| 06:34.01 | scorche | it is right on the sidebar on the gsoc site.. |
| 06:34.04 | hypa7ia | socinfo: allocations is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 06:34.04 | socinfo | Error: "allocations" is not a valid command. |
| 06:34.11 | scorche | grogs987: idling |
| 06:34.13 | hypa7ia | socinfo: learn allocations as http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 06:34.14 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 06:34.15 | killerfox|away | !help |
| 06:34.15 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 06:34.17 | grogs987 | haha, ok |
| 06:34.20 | the9a3eedi | gah. |
| 06:34.26 | the9a3eedi | channel.. moving.. too.. fast.. |
| 06:34.30 | anirudh | !freebeer |
| 06:34.30 | socinfo | Error: "freebeer" is not a valid command. |
| 06:34.34 | scorche | pah....this si nothing |
| 06:34.35 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: what client are you using? |
| 06:34.39 | the9a3eedi | HydraIRC |
| 06:34.41 | hypa7ia | hrm |
| 06:34.54 | hypa7ia | figure out how to ignore joins/parts, that cuts down on the noise lots |
| 06:34.54 | the9a3eedi | Windows client |
| 06:35.13 | the9a3eedi | hmm.. not sure if this is possible |
| 06:35.18 | the9a3eedi | well, on this client |
| 06:35.35 | the9a3eedi | the client is still being developed. a lot of features (mainly the preferences menu) hasn't been implemented yet |
| 06:35.41 | the9a3eedi | but anything's better than mIRC :P |
| 06:35.43 | hypa7ia | nods |
| 06:35.46 | hypa7ia | irssi ftw! |
| 06:35.55 | the9a3eedi | but irssi is text-based :( |
| 06:35.56 | antarus | arg |
| 06:35.59 | lh | grogs987: gets used for socializing :) |
| 06:36.02 | antarus | we don't need more gorram irc clients |
| 06:36.03 | the9a3eedi | ducks |
| 06:36.04 | antarus | also |
| 06:36.07 | antarus | I require more whiskey |
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| 06:36.16 | lh | antarus: ++ |
| 06:36.22 | the9a3eedi | antarus: Windows needs more IRC clients :P |
| 06:36.22 | grogs987 | heh, ok |
| 06:36.29 | antarus | lh: had a nice day rocking out at b50 ;) |
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| 06:36.36 | scorche | the9a3eedi: right click on the chat pane and select verbosity |
| 06:36.37 | antarus | hugs the field techs |
| 06:36.39 | lh | antarus: nice! |
| 06:36.42 | the9a3eedi | seriously, for some reason, all IRC clients on windows just suck :P |
| 06:36.51 | grogs987 | XChat is good. |
| 06:36.55 | the9a3eedi | scorche: ah.. I see |
| 06:36.55 | MaNI | pirch was nice back in the day |
| 06:36.57 | scorche | and no, Hydra is not still being developed...Hydra deveopment is a farce |
| 06:36.57 | antarus | the9a3eedi: install cygwin, use irssi ;p |
| 06:36.59 | MaNI | its a pity it dissapeared |
| 06:37.12 | scorche | inserts an l |
| 06:37.22 | the9a3eedi | antarus: haven't had a nice experience with cygwin. For POSIX-related needs, I use an ubuntu vm :P |
| 06:37.44 | the9a3eedi | scorche: farce? hmm wasnt the latest release a month ago or so? |
| 06:37.49 | scorche | antarus: you dont need to run irssi through cygwin |
| 06:37.59 | scorche | the9a3eedi: trust me...it is a farce ;) |
| 06:38.09 | kumarabhi | why dont u people use web based irc clients |
| 06:38.12 | scorche | i feel insulted that he claims it is anywhere near open source on the site |
| 06:38.16 | kumarabhi | say mibbit.com/chat |
| 06:38.26 | impl | Because I don't like chatting in my Web browser |
| 06:38.27 | scorche | kumarabhi: because they suck and local clients are much better? |
| 06:38.27 | hypa7ia | kumarabhi: because i don't always have a browser handy |
| 06:38.36 | the9a3eedi | http://www.hydrairc.com/images/photos/history_hydraandpcs.png lulz |
| 06:38.44 | the9a3eedi | the guy who does HydraIRC |
| 06:38.50 | hypa7ia | scorche: local? pfft. screen+console client ftw :) |
| 06:39.06 | the9a3eedi | scorche: last release was on Jan 19, 2009 |
| 06:39.08 | antarus | real men irc over nc |
| 06:39.11 | scorche | is a twit, and i should say much more *rage on Hydra* |
| 06:39.17 | the9a3eedi | so I'm guessing that it's not dead, just that its moving rather slow :P |
| 06:39.19 | scorche | the9a3eedi: still a farce |
| 06:39.33 | scorche | hypa7ia: that was intended too |
| 06:39.40 | antarus | ok bedtime ;) |
| 06:39.42 | the9a3eedi | well, not exactly opensource |
| 06:39.45 | scorche | antarus: real men use ii |
| 06:39.47 | the9a3eedi | but not nagware like mIRC at least :P |
| 06:39.53 | scorche | the9a3eedi: not anywhere close |
| 06:40.11 | the9a3eedi | I mean |
| 06:40.18 | hypa7ia | real women write raw tcp frames with a morse key jury-rigged to an ethernet cable |
| 06:40.21 | hypa7ia | wins |
| 06:40.24 | the9a3eedi | is there a better (gui-based) IRC client for windows, that's not shareware/nagware/etc. |
| 06:40.34 | hypa7ia | the9a3eedi: silverex xchat build |
| 06:40.52 | the9a3eedi | ah.. so there are unofficial xchat builds? :P |
| 06:40.57 | scorche | yes |
| 06:40.58 | hypa7ia | yar |
| 06:41.04 | the9a3eedi | googles |
| 06:41.20 | the9a3eedi | bookmarks page |
| 06:41.54 | the9a3eedi | I've gotten rather used to HydraIRC, so once it starts annoying me with its lack of features, I'll give this build of xchat a go |
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| 06:44.27 | sourcemorph1 | hi all, what is the chance of getting a new idea accepted by a big organization like gnome or kde? |
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| 06:44.47 | the9a3eedi | depends on the idea, I guess. |
| 06:44.49 | hypa7ia | sourcemorph1: talk to them directly |
| 06:45.05 | hypa7ia | it will vary from project to project |
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| 06:45.51 | scorche | most projects, however welcome an idea not on their list =) |
| 06:46.01 | scorche | adds a comma |
| 06:46.09 | sourcemorph1 | hmm, alright |
| 06:46.17 | the9a3eedi | but.... like I said.. depends on the project :P |
| 06:46.46 | the9a3eedi | they wont accept a lame project just because it's new and not on its list :P |
| 06:47.07 | sourcemorph1 | the9a3eedi: i understand that |
| 06:47.16 | PulpFictionPB | newhere i can see sample applications which were submitted to GSoC and accepted |
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| 06:47.22 | ojwb | if you're just someone wanting something done (rather than a student proposing their own project) you'll probably have less luck |
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| 06:47.47 | sourcemorph1 | okay, i fully wish to implement what i propose :P |
| 06:47.54 | chx | sourcemorph1: dunno how big Drupal is (we got 21 students last year) but a new idea here is warmly welcome |
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| 06:48.20 | PulpFictionPB | i really need a brief idea, my organization does not specify a template. |
| 06:48.27 | ojwb | sourcemorph1: ok, cool |
| 06:48.39 | ojwb | you get some people wanting to push their pet bug or idea |
| 06:48.41 | the9a3eedi | hmm |
| 06:48.44 | the9a3eedi | its getting rather late |
| 06:48.44 | lh | sourcemorph1: take time to think through your idea and explain it to them well before approaching them. some of our most successful student projects are those proposed by the students themselves |
| 06:48.47 | the9a3eedi | and I'm done with this lab report |
| 06:48.52 | the9a3eedi | so... will go sleep |
| 06:48.58 | the9a3eedi | haffun |
| 06:49.01 | hypa7ia | PulpFictionPB: different from http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 ? |
| 06:49.01 | the9a3eedi | and tc |
| 06:49.45 | ojwb | PulpFictionPB: look at other orgs - some give a sample completed student app from last year |
| 06:49.52 | sourcemorph1 | cool, thanks |
| 06:50.09 | ojwb | or just use the structure of one of the other org's student application forms |
| 06:50.37 | sourcemorph1 | chx: i'll go through the project ideas and see if i have the skill to apply |
| 06:51.12 | PulpFictionPB | thanks. do we get to type somewhere in the GSoC app, or we can upload PDF files also? (once the student sign up period begins) |
| 06:51.39 | ojwb | isn't sure - it may be different this year |
| 06:52.09 | PulpFictionPB | what was it like last yeaR? |
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| 06:52.19 | Kraln | so, I have a friend who really wants to get into this, but he's kind of lacking the programming skill. are there any projects that are looking for some light coding but a lot of documentation? |
| 06:52.49 | mefistofeles | I think GSoC doesnt work with documentation projects |
| 06:53.00 | devvrat | May be he can go for writing man pages |
| 06:53.03 | mefistofeles | but Im not sure, maybe someone else here could answer better |
| 06:53.03 | Kraln | mefistofeles: light coding with a lot of documentation is still coding |
| 06:53.14 | kumarabhi | people where do i get past successful applications ? |
| 06:53.15 | ojwb | coding should be the main focus |
| 06:53.16 | Kraln | and last year as I student I did much more documentation than I did coding |
| 06:53.17 | mefistofeles | Kraln, oh ok, I get what you mean |
| 06:53.42 | Kraln | ojwb: sometimes more code is not as helpful as more documentation =) |
| 06:53.55 | chx | lh: i believe i reported that accept-language header bug before abandoning Opera for Firefox 3.1 beta -- omg, how good it feels to be back on a proper browser... |
| 06:54.16 | ojwb | sometimes, but it isn't the summer of documentation |
| 06:54.16 | Kraln | chx: you should try safari4? |
| 06:54.27 | ojwb | obviously what's written should be documented |
| 06:54.30 | devvrat | kumarabhi: http://techfreaks4u.com/ShashankSingh/Google_SoC_Panoramio_Wikipedia_integration_in_Marble_ACCEPTED.pdf |
| 06:55.44 | lh | SRabbelier: the internets keep cutting out |
| 06:55.46 | devvrat | kumarabhi: There is no central resource for getting the application...Just google ...after all it's GoogleSoc |
| 06:55.50 | lh | i believe that the gods are telling me to stop typing |
| 06:56.04 | ojwb | and go to bed? |
| 06:56.05 | lh | chx: fickle. |
| 06:56.12 | lh | ojwb: possibly. |
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| 06:56.20 | SRabbelier | lh: ah, ok |
| 06:56.27 | chx | Kraln: where is the .deb for it? |
| 06:56.34 | lh | SRabbelier: ping you later today, k? |
| 06:56.40 | SRabbelier | lh: no prob, go relax ;) |
| 06:56.41 | mefistofeles | safari does not work in linux |
| 06:56.43 | lh | SRabbelier: rock |
| 06:56.43 | Kraln | chx: for webkit beta? let me find it |
| 06:56.47 | SRabbelier | is off to uni anyway |
| 06:56.49 | mefistofeles | dos it? |
| 06:56.54 | mefistofeles | does* |
| 06:56.56 | SRabbelier | cheers :) |
| 06:57.09 | mithro | some one was after me? |
| 06:57.15 | lh | folks, if people are looking for organization application feedback, please ask them to email lhospo@gmail.com if i am offline. |
| 06:57.16 | lh | merci |
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| 06:57.44 | Kraln | http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/arora-a-webkit-browser-in-qt/ |
| 06:58.09 | Kraln | mefistofeles: webkit was from khtml, I'm pretty sure you can get webkit in linux =p |
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| 06:59.04 | chx | dunno |
| 06:59.12 | chx | my konqueror a bit aged -- not much , mind you |
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| 06:59.20 | chx | and it's so broken it's useless. |
| 06:59.56 | mefistofeles | Kraln, webkit yeah, but safari no.. I think |
| 07:00.31 | chx | are there gestures? |
| 07:00.38 | chx | i cant use a browser w/o gestures any more |
| 07:01.05 | chx | i hacked some fierfox plugin to work w/ the Shiretoko beta 'cos browsing w/o gestures is unbearable. |
| 07:02.13 | devvrat | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
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| 07:06.26 | devvrat | #gsoc going silent |
| 07:06.54 | PulpFictionPB | i was just wondering what was the maximum no of users #gsoc had and when? |
| 07:07.48 | devvrat | there were around 700 at one time ...I don't remeber the exact date |
| 07:08.03 | devvrat | atleast i have seen 700 |
| 07:09.33 | MaNI | when student acceptance is about to be announced it usually swells quite large |
| 07:09.49 | devvrat | may 20th |
| 07:09.54 | devvrat | read the faqs |
| 07:10.12 | MaNI | especially if it doesn't happen on schedule |
| 07:10.20 | devvrat | http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 07:10.39 | scorche | devvrat: MaNI wasnt asking when it would be... |
| 07:11.19 | devvrat | scorche: you are right ..i gave the wrong URL |
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| 07:12.12 | PulpFictionPB | dewrat: MaNI was just telling! |
| 07:13.05 | devvrat | Well I created a hell lot of confusion due to my reading mistakes |
| 07:13.11 | devvrat | Sorry folks |
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| 07:14.08 | devvrat | has to make lab repots :( |
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| 07:14.35 | PulpFictionPB | suggests, dewrat be careful with the lap reports! Read them properly :) |
| 07:15.25 | MaNI | heh |
| 07:15.28 | devvrat | PulpFictionPB: It's really pain plotting 200 reading's on graph |
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| 07:17.08 | PulpFictionPB | what s the size of the graph sheet? |
| 07:17.26 | devvrat | normal a4 size |
| 07:17.35 | PulpFictionPB | ha ha. 200 is too much. |
| 07:17.46 | PulpFictionPB | which lab report is it? |
| 07:17.52 | devvrat | the experiment is of chemistry |
| 07:18.06 | devvrat | measuring pH changes |
| 07:18.10 | devvrat | from 2 to 12 |
| 07:18.23 | PulpFictionPB | aah |
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| 07:22.23 | scorche | !learn peak as Peak for #gsoc@freenode: 874 (Mon Apr 21 14:44:36 2008) |
| 07:22.23 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:23.54 | thebolt | scorche: you just had to go and find that info? ;-) |
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| 07:24.38 | scorche | shrugs |
| 07:26.08 | PulpFictionPB | !peak |
| 07:26.09 | socinfo | "peak" is Peak for #gsoc@freenode: 874 (Mon Apr 21 14:44:36 2008) |
| 07:26.19 | PulpFictionPB | cool! |
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| 07:28.15 | louiz | hi |
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| 07:36.58 | mib_xlsouopy | hi |
| 07:39.14 | oxcsnicho | hi all! me the first time getting connected to the server... quite hard to access this from mainland china |
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| 07:43.19 | marioant | Morning |
| 07:43.31 | marioant | or afternoon ...whatever time zone you are at |
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| 07:43.48 | oxcsnicho | GMT +8... currently in the afternoon |
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| 07:44.01 | _allen_ | oxcsnicho: Chinese? |
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| 07:44.16 | oxcsnicho | yup. And you, allen? |
| 07:44.22 | anirudh | any category wise list of organizations ? |
| 07:44.25 | _allen_ | oxcsnicho: me too |
| 07:44.42 | mib_xlsouopy | anirudh hi |
| 07:44.50 | anirudh | hi |
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| 07:46.32 | anirudh | does anyone have the URL to that ? |
| 07:47.01 | oxcsnicho | what do you mean by category wise? |
| 07:47.52 | anirudh | there was an unofficial list floating around on this channel... category wise... what organization is working on what field , this types |
| 07:48.01 | oxcsnicho | someone announced a idea search engine on the gsoc mailing list today. Does it help? |
| 07:48.16 | hypa7ia | !orgsbylang |
| 07:48.16 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 07:48.21 | hypa7ia | try that :) |
| 07:49.06 | anirudh | there was one of 2008 :P |
| 07:49.11 | anirudh | it was better |
| 07:49.16 | anirudh | i guess a simple HTML page |
| 07:50.01 | hypa7ia | i know the one you mean, lemme find it |
| 07:50.13 | anirudh | :) |
| 07:51.14 | oxcsnicho | it's so nice! thanks for sharing :) |
| 07:51.18 | hypa7ia | http://www.eflow.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Mentors_by_language |
| 07:51.36 | hypa7ia | there's also http://www.eflow.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=GSoCers_By_Location |
| 07:52.59 | anirudh | thanks :) |
| 07:53.04 | anirudh | but i meant another one |
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| 07:53.18 | anirudh | a white HTML plain page |
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| 07:54.32 | anirudh | hi lh |
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| 07:58.08 | hypa7ia | http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 07:58.10 | hypa7ia | that one :) |
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| 08:08.41 | spectie | hypa7ia, is there one for this year yet ? |
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| 08:09.24 | marcheu | so WTF is link id ? |
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| 08:09.53 | hypa7ia | marcheu: think of it as a username |
| 08:10.02 | hypa7ia | spectie: !orgsbylang |
| 08:10.19 | hypa7ia | !orgsbylang |
| 08:10.19 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 08:10.24 | hypa7ia | it's in progress :) |
| 08:10.26 | marcheu | ah, ok, it's totally not clear from the description, thanks |
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| 08:13.17 | spectie | hypa7ia, how does one add one's organisation ? |
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| 08:15.18 | hypa7ia | spectie: are you a mentor? |
| 08:15.44 | hypa7ia | spectie: the password for the delicious account was sent out on the mentors mailing list |
| 08:15.49 | spectie | yes |
| 08:15.50 | spectie | ok |
| 08:16.03 | hypa7ia | if you're not on the list, let me know what tags you want and i can add them :) |
| 08:16.06 | spectie | not sure if i'm subscribed |
| 08:16.19 | spectie | i'm not |
| 08:16.23 | hypa7ia | http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list |
| 08:16.25 | spectie | hypa7ia, just add apertium please |
| 08:16.48 | spectie | hypa7ia, i thought people only added themselves once the list of accepted projects was announced... |
| 08:16.56 | spectie | but i'll apply for membership now |
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| 08:17.18 | spectie | ok, i'll be back later |
| 08:17.20 | spectie | see you all |
| 08:17.23 | hypa7ia | spectie: i figured i'd join it for advice on selecting applicants and that kind of thing |
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| 08:17.33 | spectie | makes sense |
| 08:18.02 | hypa7ia | spectie: you're asking for a minimum of 10 hours? |
| 08:18.14 | spectie | hypa7ia, that's what it says |
| 08:18.22 | spectie | i'm going to talk about it with the others today |
| 08:18.25 | hypa7ia | that seems low :s |
| 08:18.25 | spectie | i think it should be higher |
| 08:18.31 | spectie | i think it should be 35 |
| 08:18.36 | hypa7ia | we put 30 on ours - it's a summer job |
| 08:18.50 | spectie | yeah |
| 08:18.52 | spectie | exactly |
| 08:19.12 | spectie | that was my argument |
| 08:19.19 | spectie | and they actually have to get something done ;) |
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| 08:19.45 | oferg | :O how outrageous spectie! :P |
| 08:19.57 | spectie | haha |
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| 08:53.58 | spectie | hello everyone |
| 08:54.06 | spectie | is it possible to change one's mentor link id ? |
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| 08:59.15 | ojwb | i don't think you can change link ids at all |
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| 09:00.16 | spectie | i feared as much |
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| 09:00.59 | ojwb | wonders how bad yours must be... |
| 09:01.04 | ojwb | it's only a token really |
| 09:01.12 | spectie | well |
| 09:01.14 | spectie | it isn't mine |
| 09:01.18 | spectie | it's one of our mentors |
| 09:01.25 | spectie | accidentally put the project name as his link id |
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| 09:01.28 | spectie | not sure how he managed to do it |
| 09:01.43 | spectie | seeing as the project was already registered |
| 09:02.15 | spectie | ok, got to go! |
| 09:02.27 | merlijn | I suppose that leaves you with no other option than to abandon the project and start a fork :) |
| 09:02.43 | spectie | lol |
| 09:03.00 | ojwb | i think that the project and people linkids are different namespaces |
| 09:03.17 | ojwb | because several people managed to set their project linkids to their names |
| 09:03.26 | ojwb | (by project I mean org) |
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| 09:26.42 | Wombert | lh: poke? :p |
| 09:28.18 | ArthurLiu | Wombert, come on, it's 2:26 AM PDT :) |
| 09:28.48 | Wombert | ArthurLiu: I can always try :D |
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| 09:35.06 | MatthewWilkes | For anyone interested, Plone.org has been relaunched today with a new design: http://plone.org |
| 09:35.51 | impl | Wow. |
| 09:36.00 | impl | 1.0 -> 2.0, if you know what I mean |
| 09:36.14 | impl | Quite nice |
| 09:36.15 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, the old design had only had tweaks for years |
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| 09:42.08 | PulpFictionPB | can neone suggest where should I upload PDF files to be submitted with the application? |
| 09:42.37 | thiago | somewhere you trust they won't be deleted before the mentors can read them |
| 09:42.58 | PulpFictionPB | like where? I cant get it. i dont want to host on some cheesy hosting site. |
| 09:43.05 | ojwb | PulpFictionPB: can you create documents on socghop? |
| 09:43.17 | thiago | use Google Documents then |
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| 09:44.02 | PulpFictionPB | thiago: oh cool. good idea. ironically, i didnt think about the simplest solution :( |
| 09:44.10 | PulpFictionPB | ojwb: no idea, i m a new to GSoC. |
| 09:44.35 | ojwb | log in to socghop.appspot.com |
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| 09:44.49 | ojwb | in the left hand menu, under "User", there's "Create a New Document" |
| 09:44.53 | ojwb | for me at least |
| 09:45.10 | PulpFictionPB | ojwb: u a student or a mentor? |
| 09:45.11 | ojwb | ah, seems to be HTML though |
| 09:45.27 | ojwb | admin, but I suspect anyone can |
| 09:45.34 | ojwb | but it doesn't seem to take PDFs |
| 09:45.36 | PulpFictionPB | i want PDF :) |
| 09:45.50 | PulpFictionPB | thiago was right. google docs then make it public. |
| 09:46.04 | ojwb | though docs won't be pdf will it? |
| 09:46.32 | PulpFictionPB | no idea. i will check it. |
| 09:46.50 | thiago | why do you need PDF? |
| 09:46.54 | thiago | you just need something people can read |
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| 09:47.44 | PulpFictionPB | cause it has equations and digrams nicely formatted. |
| 09:47.49 | PulpFictionPB | i dont want to lose that formatting |
| 09:48.34 | PulpFictionPB | ojwb: u r rite. it doesnt work as such. |
| 09:53.21 | ojwb | PulpFictionPB: google sites? |
| 09:53.41 | ojwb | dunno if that allows uploading pdfs or not |
| 09:53.44 | PulpFictionPB | something better: wordpress :D |
| 09:53.50 | ojwb | ah |
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| 09:59.18 | prince1600 | hello |
| 09:59.23 | prince1600 | everyone |
| 10:00.11 | katsu-mi_ | hi :) |
| 10:00.24 | prince1600 | how are you ? |
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| 10:01.18 | katsu-mi_ | I'm fine but afraid :D |
| 10:01.33 | prince1600 | afraud of what ? |
| 10:01.46 | katsu-mi_ | of gsoc |
| 10:02.04 | prince1600 | why? |
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| 10:02.27 | prince1600 | it is a chat channel |
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| 10:02.31 | katsu-mi_ | I'm new |
| 10:02.32 | katsu-mi_ | or |
| 10:02.36 | prince1600 | me too |
| 10:02.42 | katsu-mi_ | i would like to be new |
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| 10:05.10 | prince1600 | hi again |
| 10:05.48 | prince1600 | any who would like to chat |
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| 10:06.59 | katsu-mi_ | prince1600: ow, i see you don't like me :p |
| 10:07.00 | dmj727 | prince1600: I wouldn't be afraid of gsoc being a chat channel. Developers use irc all the time for development. |
| 10:07.28 | sylar_ | prince1600: I am ready for chat.. :) |
| 10:07.33 | prince1600 | did I say such a thing? katsu-mi? |
| 10:07.40 | dmj727 | A lot of them arent logged though. |
| 10:07.53 | prince1600 | welcome sylar_ |
| 10:07.57 | dmj727 | So what are you looking at gsoc for? |
| 10:08.35 | mib_xlsouopy | hi |
| 10:08.40 | prince1600 | I like chatting, dmj727 |
| 10:09.12 | prince1600 | I was told X-chat supports Macs |
| 10:09.18 | prince1600 | that is why I came here |
| 10:09.33 | dmj727 | wait, I think I mixedd you up with ktsu-mi |
| 10:10.03 | dmj727 | yeah... |
| 10:10.29 | ThomasWaldmann | does someone know how to find out more about someone applying as mentor |
| 10:10.37 | prince1600 | I use a Mac OS X |
| 10:10.40 | dmj727 | katsu-mi: what I said to prince |
| 10:10.56 | ThomasWaldmann | i only see the nickname and then can tell whether to accept or reject |
| 10:11.09 | mib_xlsouopy | Can anybody tell me how to categorize project related to java coding............. |
| 10:11.14 | ThomasWaldmann | but I don't know who it is |
| 10:11.27 | sylar_ | prince1600: What do you want to chat about? |
| 10:11.37 | prince1600 | anything will do |
| 10:11.51 | mib_xlsouopy | ?? |
| 10:11.57 | prince1600 | your asl please? |
| 10:12.05 | mib_xlsouopy | Anybody wanaa help me? |
| 10:12.19 | tushar_hailstone | in what? |
| 10:12.30 | impl | This is #gsoc, not #teenchat. Hurrr. |
| 10:12.44 | mib_xlsouopy | I am looking for projects on java coding and mathematical modelling........ |
| 10:13.07 | impl | ponders |
| 10:13.09 | impl | !orgsbylang |
| 10:13.09 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 10:13.09 | Ivanovic | java *and* mathematical modelling ? |
| 10:13.11 | dmj727 | hmmm |
| 10:13.13 | katsu-mi_ | dmj727: I'm looking for some interesting project, bacause i thing gosc is good opportunity to improve my skills |
| 10:13.24 | dmj727 | Same here. |
| 10:13.26 | katsu-mi_ | *gsoc, sorry ^^' |
| 10:13.26 | mib_xlsouopy | I have tried it? |
| 10:13.31 | prince1600 | impl, did I say I am a teenager? |
| 10:13.40 | Ivanovic | might get challening to satisfy the "and" term, if it was only an "or" it would be easier... |
| 10:13.55 | impl | prince1600: Well, if you're not, you're a creepy old guy pretending to be one or an FBI agent. |
| 10:13.55 | mib_xlsouopy | ok or |
| 10:14.20 | prince1600 | I am a 57 year old man from Greece |
| 10:14.22 | prince1600 | you? |
| 10:14.24 | Ivanovic | http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/Java |
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| 10:14.31 | katsu-mi_ | dmj727: hava you find some project you're interested in? |
| 10:14.34 | dmj727 | I am planning to apply for gsoc for the first time this year. I am hoping to do something fr the gnome project |
| 10:14.39 | mib_xlsouopy | k thanx |
| 10:15.02 | Ivanovic | mib_xlsouopy: you will have to look through the tags to find something math related... |
| 10:15.15 | impl | I bet Haskell will have some neat math-related projects. |
| 10:15.17 | Ivanovic | something beside http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/mathematics |
| 10:15.32 | katsu-mi_ | I woule like do something for amarok :D |
| 10:15.38 | dmj727 | I want to improve window management. I've been discussin some ideas with them, but I haven't broached the gsoc thing yet |
| 10:16.13 | Ivanovic | katsu-mi_: no idea if amarok themselves are in this year, if they are not this will probably fall under the kde umbrella |
| 10:16.43 | katsu-mi_ | but i'm not sure if cope wit it ;( |
| 10:16.59 | dmj727 | katsu-mi: I don't see amarok on the list. |
| 10:17.01 | impl | http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/report/1 |
| 10:17.06 | impl | Some of these look like they'd be a lot of fun. |
| 10:17.06 | katsu-mi_ | Ivanovic: amarok are this year |
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| 10:17.31 | impl | http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/ticket/1535 |
| 10:17.45 | dmj727 | katsu-mi: KDE is on the list though |
| 10:18.33 | Ivanovic | katsu-mi_: ah, okay, i was not sure, like i said since the number of orgs got reduced and it was tried to mainly make it in a way that those gone might somehow fit under some umbrella |
| 10:19.08 | dmj727 | katsu-mi: Amarok is on the KDE list of ideas |
| 10:19.24 | impl | I'm sure KDE will have at least one or two Amarok projects |
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| 10:19.49 | dmj727 | KDE lists 8 ideas. |
| 10:19.59 | dmj727 | for amarok |
| 10:20.24 | katsu-mi_ | but noone is talking about thing on amarok channel :/ |
| 10:20.31 | dmj727 | Has anyone done their own idea, not on thee organizations lists? |
| 10:21.10 | impl | katsu-mi_: I believe they have a dev channel separate from their main one. |
| 10:21.33 | dmj727 | katsu-mi_: you might have to bring it up and wait a while. The devs sometimes lurk on the channel. |
| 10:22.06 | dmj727 | if there's a separate dev channel, then you aren't going to get much of a response on the main one. |
| 10:22.07 | impl | That also. And remember it's 6AM US time right now :P |
| 10:22.15 | impl | (or earlier) |
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| 10:22.24 | dmj727 | ...5:30 am for me |
| 10:22.31 | katsu-mi_ | impl: oh right :D i hav 11:22 am :D |
| 10:23.12 | impl | will need to get breakfast soonish. |
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| 10:23.50 | ojwb | ThomasWaldmann: what's the nickname? |
| 10:24.20 | ojwb | you can probably type it in to some field which wants one and see what it completes to |
| 10:24.21 | _sana | did anyone participated at an early edition of gsoc ? |
| 10:24.30 | ojwb | if you mean the linkid |
| 10:26.29 | ThomasWaldmann | ojwb: cosla |
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| 10:27.23 | katsu-mi_ | which year of studies are most people at gsoc? |
| 10:27.24 | ThomasWaldmann | maybe it should list the realname in the list of pending applications also |
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| 10:28.19 | ajhais | _sana: :D |
| 10:28.27 | ojwb | ThomasWaldmann: I guess file a ticket against melange for that, if there isn't one already |
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| 10:28.57 | ojwb | Alfonso de la Guarda |
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| 10:29.55 | _sana | I would try to participate at gsoc but I'm afraid I can't stay all day long home and code |
| 10:31.11 | ojwb | ThomasWaldmann: cosla is Alfonso de la Guarda |
| 10:31.31 | chunmun | _sana: well you need to put in something like 40 hrs a week. If you can do that, thats cool enough |
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| 10:31.44 | ThomasWaldmann | ah, ok, thanks for looking that up. |
| 10:31.45 | Zounds | Mornin' |
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| 10:31.55 | dmj727 | _sana: Why wouldn't you want to? |
| 10:31.57 | ajhais | sana: you don't need to code all day... just plan some weekly submissions for your project and make sure you do meet them |
| 10:32.05 | ThomasWaldmann | ojwb: is there a way I could do the lookup myself? |
| 10:32.06 | ojwb | ThomasWaldmann: I just went to "invite a mentor" and started to type it in |
| 10:32.10 | chunmun | Zounds: morning |
| 10:32.15 | ojwb | and it shows completions |
| 10:32.21 | ThomasWaldmann | ok |
| 10:32.29 | _sana | i saw that you don't have to be intern at another company |
| 10:32.35 | ojwb | might not work if he's already asked |
| 10:32.36 | _sana | i think i can handle internship + gsoc |
| 10:32.54 | ojwb | _sana: you really can't do a job and gsoc |
| 10:33.05 | chunmun | _sana: its all abt time.. |
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| 10:33.09 | ojwb | you'll get failed or sacked |
| 10:33.10 | ojwb | or both |
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| 10:33.22 | _sana | ojwb: at last internship they told me : to X in 3 months and i finished in about 1 |
| 10:33.25 | dmj727 | _sana: It might be more than you could handle. 40 hrs + 40 hrs |
| 10:33.57 | tushar_hailstone | anybody can suggest a gsoc project based on C and intermediate C++ ? |
| 10:34.09 | ojwb | what I'm curious about is the mentor invite we appear to have sent to "ls84kfutrhjdkgirh" |
| 10:34.21 | ojwb | which I can't find a name for, and looks like gibberish to me |
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| 10:35.07 | Zounds | tushar_hailstone: |
| 10:35.10 | Zounds | !orgbylang |
| 10:35.11 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 10:36.45 | tushar_hailstone | Zounds: anything else? |
| 10:37.53 | Zounds | tushar_hailstone: nothing I know about, I mainly use python |
| 10:38.11 | ojwb | not all orgs will have added tags for themselves yet though |
| 10:38.20 | tushar_hailstone | I mean any projects catering to C |
| 10:38.25 | ojwb | and the initial tagging was done by one person so was a bit thin |
| 10:38.40 | ojwb | so check that URL again in a day or two |
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| 10:41.51 | David_Honeynet | ojwb: yeah, some projects (such as ours) are not yet tagged |
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| 11:27.57 | devvrat | finds #gsoc channel to be very silent |
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| 11:28.15 | palt | desowin_: I agree :) |
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| 11:34.12 | PulpFictionPB | thinks that dewrat is the 'Silent observer' |
| 11:35.33 | LaurieJ | ojwb: as an org admin, how can I tag gsoc2009's bookmarks on delicious? my org isn't up there yet either |
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| 11:55.27 | Zi | why does it keep changing my name to brekkie... |
| 11:55.47 | Zi | i've restored my name at least twice now... weird... |
| 11:56.28 | kblin | because your IRC client hates you? |
| 11:56.36 | Zi | problie :( |
| 11:56.50 | devvrat | maybe that's a registered nick |
| 11:57.33 | Zi | hmm... could be... |
| 11:57.33 | Zi | -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password> |
| 11:57.46 | Zi | damn... i like my name... |
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| 11:58.28 | devvrat | omniter: you also like omniter then |
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| 11:59.13 | omniter | yeah i guess. this is my fav username. Zi's my real name. so i guess i'll stick with this, since there's another Zi |
| 11:59.23 | PulpFictionPB | colorful diagrams can be included in the application? i m worried they may find it odd! |
| 11:59.36 | devvrat | hi PulpFictionPB |
| 11:59.51 | PulpFictionPB | dewrat : Hi! |
| 12:00.17 | omniter | PulpFictionPB, how about you include some screenshots too. =D |
| 12:00.31 | devvrat | omniter: lolz |
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| 12:00.47 | omniter | what, i plan to include screens of my work. =P |
| 12:00.53 | thebolt | evening |
| 12:01.06 | omniter | since my org is graphics-oriented |
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| 12:01.15 | devvrat | do the applications need to be ASCII formatted |
| 12:01.25 | omniter | morning, thebolt |
| 12:01.35 | grwi | !next |
| 12:01.35 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 12:01.50 | omniter | four more days :) |
| 12:02.18 | devvrat | omniter: Which org are you applying to |
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| 12:02.45 | omniter_ | oops... |
| 12:02.59 | omniter | devvrat, i'm thinking ogre |
| 12:03.33 | omniter | well, not thinking... that's definitely one of my applications |
| 12:03.49 | devvrat | thats good |
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| 12:04.04 | omniter | you? |
| 12:04.23 | devvrat | sahana |
| 12:04.32 | devvrat | i am interested in hfoss |
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| 12:05.35 | omniter | mmmm... hfoss... sounds delish |
| 12:05.55 | Gurpartap | devilish? :P |
| 12:06.02 | omniter | like some middle eastern dish |
| 12:06.16 | devvrat | :) |
| 12:06.28 | omniter | you broke the rhyme! |
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| 12:07.04 | devvrat | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
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| 12:08.05 | omniter | lol poor guy |
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| 12:09.47 | omniter | wa?! hungryzi... is that him =\ |
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| 12:19.45 | punchagan | !orgbylang |
| 12:19.46 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 12:34.47 | impl | Why is 'Django' listed as a language on the list of languages? :P |
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| 12:35.10 | impl | 'Qt', too. |
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| 12:35.14 | ajuonline | o.O |
| 12:35.19 | impl | is mildly amused. |
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| 13:00.37 | FallenDevil | Hi |
| 13:00.39 | FallenDevil | !logs |
| 13:00.39 | socinfo | "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
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| 13:02.25 | z3r0 | hey guys, what was that link to the page full of project list categorized by languages used? |
| 13:02.46 | FallenDevil | !orgbylang |
| 13:02.47 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 13:02.58 | z3r0 | thanks FallenDevil |
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| 13:32.31 | Zounds | !faq |
| 13:32.31 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 13:38.52 | Zounds | is there an official policy on the amount/type of work you can do on a project before the start date? |
| 13:39.37 | Gurpartap | No |
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| 13:39.48 | Gurpartap | You should probably save something for the summers though |
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| 13:39.51 | Gurpartap | :P |
| 13:40.27 | Zounds | heh, thanks |
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| 13:44.24 | mib_cf9lmijt | need to know more about little more abt minix3 proj |
| 13:45.06 | mib_cf9lmijt | is it totally new or is a mod of unix or *nix OS family |
| 13:45.06 | beket | mib_cf9lmijt, why not write to their mailing lists or join their #channel, if any ? |
| 13:45.22 | mib_cf9lmijt | thnx |
| 13:45.30 | mib_cf9lmijt | i'll join |
| 13:45.38 | FallenDevil | !where |
| 13:45.39 | socinfo | Error: "where" is not a valid command. |
| 13:45.43 | mib_cf9lmijt | if i find one |
| 13:45.44 | FallenDevil | !anyone |
| 13:45.44 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 13:46.01 | mib_cf9lmijt | ya interested in minix |
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| 14:21.32 | rohita_ | hi |
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| 14:26.22 | dack | !orgbylangs |
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| 14:26.28 | dack | !orgbylang |
| 14:26.29 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 14:26.37 | dack | !help |
| 14:26.38 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 14:26.39 | chunmun | rohita_:hi |
| 14:27.04 | ajuonline | chunmun: |
| 14:27.20 | chunmun | ajuonline: Hi :) |
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| 14:27.28 | chunmun | long time :) |
| 14:27.33 | ajuonline | chunmun: ltns? eh, why are you not in ##gsoc-india :P |
| 14:27.54 | chunmun | how many channels are there?! |
| 14:28.00 | chunmun | am in ##gsoc-in :P |
| 14:28.08 | ajuonline | bah thats a fake channel :P |
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| 14:28.40 | ajuonline | someone was messaging, if you join that channel you get into gsoc for sure. |
| 14:28.40 | ajuonline | :D |
| 14:28.55 | ajuonline | chunmun: isnt this the channel we all created last year ##gsoc-india ? |
| 14:28.55 | chunmun | ohk,, |
| 14:29.01 | chunmun | yups :P |
| 14:29.08 | ajuonline | so why do you ask :D lol |
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| 14:29.33 | chunmun | gurpartap send me to the other one |
| 14:29.35 | chunmun | :P |
| 14:29.53 | ajuonline | no comments :D |
| 14:30.12 | chunmun | he he |
| 14:30.16 | chunmun | guess we both know |
| 14:30.21 | ajuonline | ;) |
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| 14:30.26 | chunmun | :P |
| 14:30.26 | chunmun | how was the srilanka trip? |
| 14:31.35 | ajuonline | chunmun: i am *yet* to go there! |
| 14:31.37 | ajuonline | monday |
| 14:32.25 | chunmun | ohk.. |
| 14:32.28 | chunmun | atb :) |
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| 14:32.53 | ajuonline | thank you :) |
| 14:34.55 | derkaiser | #help |
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| 14:39.21 | scorche | glares at the last 2 posts to the -discuss list |
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| 14:43.00 | Ivanovic | is tempted to answer "USE GOOGLE!" |
| 14:43.01 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 14:43.18 | ajuonline | lol |
| 14:43.53 | scorche | or the handy delicious tags |
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| 14:44.49 | kblin | scorche: the delicious filters suck |
| 14:45.04 | kblin | scorche: try looking at C projects, but not C++ projects |
| 14:45.17 | scorche | better than nothing |
| 14:45.31 | kblin | true |
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| 14:46.15 | scorche | i am unfamiliar with delicious...is it possible to tell it to go off "C" -"C++" ? |
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| 14:47.18 | hypa7ia | scorche: let me try |
| 14:48.22 | hypa7ia | huh |
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| 14:48.35 | hypa7ia | scorche: we should change "c" to "CLanguage" |
| 14:48.39 | hypa7ia | for disambiguation |
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| 14:49.24 | scorche | eh...i dont know about that |
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| 14:50.02 | scorche | i could see someone looking at CLanguage and not realizing it referred to C |
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| 14:50.32 | kblin | basically this looks like a bad workaround for a delicious tagging bug |
| 14:50.50 | kblin | or feature.. same difference |
| 14:51.27 | hypa7ia | kblin: yeah |
| 14:51.42 | hypa7ia | it's a workaround, but a fairly common one |
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| 14:52.50 | scorche | would C_Language work? |
| 14:53.04 | hypa7ia | scorche: yup |
| 14:53.11 | hypa7ia | tags can be renamed in delicious |
| 14:53.19 | hypa7ia | it will rename it for everything |
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| 14:53.33 | scorche | then lets have C_Language and C++_Language just so there isnt any confusion |
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| 14:55.03 | hypa7ia | ok, i'll do that now as my $boring_training went on break :) |
| 14:55.44 | VDVsx | hypa7ia, can you put more tags in a org ? |
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| 14:56.12 | scorche | VDVsx: any mentor/admin can |
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| 14:56.36 | scorche | or at least anyone on the mentor's ML |
| 14:57.30 | ajuonline | any idea how do I redirect a domain to another domain via DNS changes? I did a CNAME record addition |
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| 14:58.13 | hypa7ia | VDVsx: sure! |
| 14:58.17 | hypa7ia | which one? |
| 14:58.21 | ajuonline | scorche: ^ |
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| 14:58.24 | VDVsx | scorche, Its my first time mentoring, so I'm not in the mentors ML :( |
| 14:58.31 | VDVsx | hypa7ia, pm ? |
| 14:58.59 | FallenDevil | ajuonline: CNAME should work |
| 14:58.59 | hypa7ia | VDVsx: go for it |
| 14:59.08 | hypa7ia | VDVsx: first time mentor too, high-five :) |
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| 15:03.01 | hypa7ia | any other mentors need tags added to their listings? |
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| 15:05.26 | wsfulton-2 | scorchethen lets have C_Language and C++_Language just so there isnt any confusion |
| 15:05.38 | wsfulton-2 | not sure about that C and C++ works fine for me |
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| 15:05.55 | wsfulton-2 | will we start to have ruby_language, python_language etc etc |
| 15:06.00 | PulpFictionPB | i know this is highly off topic, but can neone recommend a good diagramming sofware except Visio? |
| 15:06.02 | hypa7ia | wsfulton-2: already change it |
| 15:06.21 | hypa7ia | err changed |
| 15:06.27 | hypa7ia | PulpFictionPB: Dia |
| 15:06.29 | hypa7ia | is great |
| 15:06.30 | wsfulton-2 | suggest changing it back as that is what it was and everyone was happy |
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| 15:06.44 | hypa7ia | wsfulton-2: c++ projects were showing up when people searched for c |
| 15:06.46 | PulpFictionPB | hypa7ia: does it have some nice clip arts? |
| 15:06.46 | hypa7ia | that was the problem |
| 15:06.53 | hypa7ia | PulpFictionPB: openclipart.org! |
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| 15:06.59 | hypa7ia | but it also comes with lots too |
| 15:07.05 | wsfulton-2 | c++ is just a better c :) |
| 15:07.09 | PulpFictionPB | aah cool. thanks hypa7ia |
| 15:07.13 | VDVsx | PulpFictionPB, KDE have one too - kvisio ?? |
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| 15:07.31 | hypa7ia | wsfulton-2: people should be able to search for them separately :) |
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| 15:07.47 | PulpFictionPB | VDVsx: i need some high res clip arts for my applications. so i guess openclipart should suffice |
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| 15:08.02 | wsfulton-2 | use cplusplus or cpp is what is often used instead if the search engines can't cope with a '+' |
| 15:08.25 | hypa7ia | wsfulton-2: the issue was not the + |
| 15:08.28 | hypa7ia | or C++ at all |
| 15:08.35 | hypa7ia | it's that c is a substring of C++ |
| 15:08.47 | wsfulton-2 | oh okay |
| 15:08.49 | hypa7ia | and that was making c++ projects show up when one searched for c |
| 15:09.05 | hypa7ia | wsfulton-2: trust me on this one, i use delicious a /lot/ |
| 15:09.06 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 15:09.12 | brlcad | hypa7ia: use the tagged index |
| 15:09.17 | brlcad | there's a C tag |
| 15:09.19 | hypa7ia | brlcad: didn't work right |
| 15:09.25 | hypa7ia | showed c++ proejcts |
| 15:09.46 | cadabra | Can you use literals "c" and boolean operators 'NOT "c++"' in a search engines? |
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| 15:10.11 | brlcad | hypa7ia: on the delicious site or that search page? |
| 15:10.16 | hypa7ia | brlcad: delicious |
| 15:10.20 | brlcad | huh |
| 15:10.31 | hypa7ia | which is why i changed the tag to C_Language |
| 15:10.42 | hypa7ia | cadabra: not to search delicious |
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| 15:10.47 | hypa7ia | which is what we're talking about here |
| 15:10.49 | brlcad | seems like a bug actually |
| 15:10.57 | cadabra | okay. |
| 15:10.58 | hypa7ia | brlcad: i agree |
| 15:11.06 | hypa7ia | brlcad: want to report it to delicious? |
| 15:11.07 | brlcad | shouldn't be doing substring matches at all to show a tagged category |
| 15:11.08 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 15:11.13 | hypa7ia | no kidding |
| 15:11.15 | hypa7ia | but it does |
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| 15:11.19 | hypa7ia | so i worked around it |
| 15:11.32 | hypa7ia | does some more tag gardening |
| 15:11.33 | brlcad | I doubt it's actually doing substring |
| 15:11.41 | brlcad | probably stripping punctuation |
| 15:11.49 | hypa7ia | hmm, good point |
| 15:11.52 | allen | excuse me, any body who can tell me the official irc channel and server of www.atheme.org? |
| 15:11.56 | brlcad | otherwise tons of stuff would be busted |
| 15:12.02 | hypa7ia | i'll try changing it to c and cpp |
| 15:12.41 | hypa7ia | huh, that worked |
| 15:12.43 | brlcad | you should report that to delicious |
| 15:12.50 | hypa7ia | yeah |
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| 15:14.01 | allen | !atheme |
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| 15:15.34 | hypa7ia | reported! |
| 15:15.52 | easwar | !gnome |
| 15:15.52 | socinfo | Error: "gnome" is not a valid command. |
| 15:15.57 | hypa7ia | for now i've renamed C++ to C++_Language |
| 15:16.04 | easwar | !GNOME |
| 15:16.04 | socinfo | Error: "GNOME" is not a valid command. |
| 15:16.14 | hypa7ia | which will show up when people type in c++ |
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| 15:16.43 | araujo | morning |
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| 15:16.56 | Zounds | allen: irc.atheme.org #soc2009 |
| 15:17.05 | Zounds | allen: they're not on this server |
| 15:17.20 | allen | Zounds: ah, thanks! |
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| 15:18.26 | Zounds | allen: no problem |
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| 15:25.41 | cadabra | What options are there for those want to be involved with the summer of code but are not a student? |
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| 15:26.33 | beket | cadabra, mentoring perhaps |
| 15:26.42 | brlcad | cadabra: they all get involved with the BRL-CAD project |
| 15:28.55 | hypa7ia | cadabra: we're looking for someone to help mentor an android project if you're interested |
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| 15:29.50 | cadabra | Well I am not quite a novice but I've never been a big contributor either. I was hoping that soc would be a great platform for anyone who is green in the open source community. |
| 15:30.03 | cadabra | So, I would wonder if I was qualified to be a mentor. |
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| 15:31.04 | hypa7ia | cadabra: what projects have you worked on? |
| 15:31.21 | brlcad | cadabra: the ability to be a good mentor somethings doesn't even require being a developer |
| 15:31.26 | FallenDevil | hypa7ia: can you give your contacts? |
| 15:31.43 | brlcad | it requires good communication skills, keeping tabs on your student, having a means to review and evaluate their progress |
| 15:31.55 | merlijn | I believe that last year there was the kind of deal where students would get google swag if they finished their project even if they hadn't been accepted, maybe that goes for non-students as well |
| 15:32.00 | hypa7ia | FallenDevil: which method? my email is leigh@hypatia.ca, and i'm always on irc |
| 15:32.01 | FallenDevil | hypa7ia: friend of mine (he was GSoC student in 200) is interested in mentoring android related projects |
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| 15:32.07 | hypa7ia | FallenDevil: oh sweeeet |
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| 15:32.22 | hypa7ia | FallenDevil: http://www.xelerance.com/GSoC2009/ (search for android) |
| 15:32.27 | brlcad | cadabra: if you have those qualities, you could pretty much work with any org that was in need of mentors -- ask the ones that you'd like to join, I'm sure they'd welcome you |
| 15:32.28 | FallenDevil | hypa7ia: can i give your email to him? |
| 15:32.34 | hypa7ia | FallenDevil: go for it! |
| 15:32.40 | hypa7ia | it's also my msn if he prefers it |
| 15:32.40 | FallenDevil | hypa7ia: thanks |
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| 15:33.17 | hypa7ia | merlijn: mentors also get schwg :) |
| 15:34.16 | cadabra | Yeah I am definitely interested in progressing the open source community and a mentor would be great! |
| 15:35.07 | bobbens | !timeline |
| 15:35.08 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:35.33 | Abhinav1 | !xiph |
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| 15:37.13 | hypa7ia | cadabra: i saw you were in #android which is why i mentioned our project |
| 15:37.24 | hypa7ia | what other kinds of things are you interested in? |
| 15:37.40 | wsfulton-2 | hypa7ia: you might want to ask some of the big opensource projects like ubuntu, kde, gnome etc if they need any mentoring help. You'd think they could do with some general help. |
| 15:38.08 | wsfulton-2 | sorry, that was meant for cadabra |
| 15:38.20 | cadabra | Yeah, I have been following android around for a couple months. What ideas have been presented for android to the students? |
| 15:39.03 | hypa7ia | cadabra: we're looking to port openswan / xlt2pd to it |
| 15:39.17 | hypa7ia | for vpn-to-phone :) |
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| 15:40.11 | hypa7ia | cadabra: we don't know anyhing about android really, but lots about openswan :) |
| 15:40.28 | cadabra | I've done some minor work with OpenVPN. Is there anyway I can 'sit in' on discussion so I can get a feel if I am comfortable? |
| 15:40.43 | hypa7ia | cadabra: for sure, pop into #openswan-dev |
| 15:41.07 | hypa7ia | and ping LetoTo, he's the mentor on that project (Paul) |
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| 15:43.12 | cadabra | Thanks! I have been sitting on the edge of opensource wondering how to get my feet wet and gsoc seemd perfect. |
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| 15:44.24 | brlcad | cadabra: welcome to open source! |
| 15:44.38 | brlcad | it's great stuff, can put a lifetime into it |
| 15:44.58 | hypa7ia | cadabra: welcome indeed :) |
| 15:45.06 | Lennie|Andy | welcome :) |
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| 15:45.23 | hypa7ia | cadabra: and i know what you mean, i have a couple of teeny patches here and there, but am more of a user / implementor |
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| 15:45.57 | kblin | brlcad: multiple lifetimes, actually |
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| 15:48.20 | chunmun | !orgsbylang |
| 15:48.20 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 15:48.57 | cadabra | Its something I feel is a great idea. Progess for the benfit of progress can only be for the good. And I am more of an implementor too. |
| 15:49.11 | hypa7ia | if anyone wants tags added to orgs, let me know - i'm logged into the account now |
| 15:49.17 | hypa7ia | (yay delicious) |
| 15:49.43 | kasiahayden | zooko, are you around? |
| 15:50.16 | hypa7ia | mentors: what think you of having orgs tagged by region and timezone as well? |
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| 15:50.44 | chunmun | hypa7ia: maybe drupal should also be tagged under mysql? |
| 15:50.51 | hypa7ia | chunmun: will add |
| 15:51.19 | hypa7ia | done :) |
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| 15:51.37 | chunmun | hypa7ia: Thanks :) |
| 15:51.41 | hypa7ia | no problemo! |
| 15:51.49 | hypa7ia | any thoughts on geographic / timezone tagging? |
| 15:51.50 | Lennie|Andy | hopefully the last year we'll use delicious :). Tagging should be put into Melange as well |
| 15:51.55 | brlcad | kblin: heh, reincarnate coders? |
| 15:51.59 | hypa7ia | Lennie|Andy: agreed entirely |
| 15:52.16 | brlcad | or just early demises .. |
| 15:52.37 | kblin | brlcad: dunno, but if I could fork() multiple instances of myself, I could keep all of them busy |
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| 15:53.52 | dwins | hypa7ia: for what it's worth, the projects I'm associated with (geoserver, geotools) have developers in lots of time zones/locations |
| 15:53.57 | Lennie|Andy | dont know if timezones are nice. might only be useful for small localized projects? |
| 15:54.06 | dwins | i guess you'd want to tag by mentor location though, might be useful |
| 15:54.09 | brlcad | kblin: haha |
| 15:54.28 | kblin | dwins: I doubt that |
| 15:54.50 | brlcad | should spawn some child processes sometime to get additional coding throughput |
| 15:55.09 | hypa7ia | i was thinking timezones as well as actual locations |
| 15:55.13 | kblin | dwins: I had an easier time communicating with a mentor in california and one in australia than talking to my mentor in germany |
| 15:55.23 | kblin | me being german as well |
| 15:55.28 | thebolt | hi mr blin et al |
| 15:55.38 | scorche|sh | brlcad: you might need to re-write your scheduler to properly handle that though |
| 15:55.45 | Lennie|Andy | army of the threads, brlcad |
| 15:55.57 | dwins | kblin: i'm not convinced it would be useful, just acknowledging the possibility |
| 15:56.14 | kblin | thebolt: hi mr svanfeldt |
| 15:56.36 | Lennie|Andy | ill put you in a deadlock which you'll never get out of :) |
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| 15:57.41 | mib_c9aj46 | how can I get the list of students accepted by each organization last year? |
| 15:58.11 | scorche|sh | manually parse last year's pages? |
| 15:58.13 | kblin | dwins: true |
| 15:58.22 | kblin | mib_c9aj46: google |
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| 15:59.08 | mib_c9aj46 | do you have hyperlink to any such page? |
| 15:59.25 | kblin | mib_c9aj46: http://www.google.com/ |
| 15:59.55 | mib_c9aj46 | dude I need "list of students accepted by each organization last year" |
| 16:00.09 | kblin | dude, read what people tell you |
| 16:00.20 | Lennie|Andy | dudes chill :) |
| 16:00.26 | kblin | mib_c9aj46: and no, I'm not going to do your homework for you |
| 16:00.34 | PulpFictionPB | is it ok to include colorful diagrams in applications or should i refrain from doing it? |
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| 16:01.10 | Lennie|Andy | pulp, if they serve a purpose other then being colurful |
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| 16:01.35 | hypa7ia | mib_c9aj46: what are you trying to accomplish with such a list? |
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| 16:02.18 | Lennie|Andy | im gonna read a book instead of playing around on irc. (stupid slow public transport). bbl |
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| 16:02.32 | hypa7ia | laterz Lennie|Andy |
| 16:02.32 | hwked | the applications are evaluated by both google and the organization? |
| 16:02.44 | Lennie|Andy | only org |
| 16:02.46 | chunmun | hwked: no, only the org |
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| 16:03.22 | PulpFictionPB | ohk cool. |
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| 16:05.34 | homunq | was under the impression that google reserved the right to look at overall application quality when assigning slots, though they would only look at the last marginal application for any given org. |
| 16:06.26 | kblin | homunq: but they don't rank it |
| 16:06.27 | Its_me | Their are lot of ideas on the Ideas page of each organization, is Google going to group 3 to 4 ideas as single project? |
| 16:06.36 | thebolt | Its_me: no |
| 16:07.37 | homunq | kblin: exactly. If they are deciding whether to give 3 or 4 slots to organization X or Y, they might look at application 4 for either, but not 1-3. |
| 16:08.08 | hypa7ia | Its_me: it's up to you to pick the ideas you're most suited to and write up proposals for those |
| 16:08.12 | Its_me | thebolt: So each idea is an Independent project and how many projects does Google funds for each Organization? Can it be more than 1? |
| 16:08.31 | hypa7ia | Its_me: it's usually more than one |
| 16:08.31 | homunq | where that numbering is assigned by the org. |
| 16:08.55 | hypa7ia | Its_me: pick the projects / ideas you're most interested in and best suited for |
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| 16:09.04 | dwins | Its_me: organizations receive some number of student slots (varies by org) to do with what they wish |
| 16:09.05 | homunq | !slots |
| 16:09.06 | socinfo | Error: "slots" is not a valid command. |
| 16:09.35 | dwins | Its_me: in general, students are not limited to the ideas from the ideas page |
| 16:09.47 | homunq | !allocations |
| 16:09.47 | socinfo | "allocations" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations |
| 16:10.00 | Its_me | hypa7ia: Thanks for the Reply |
| 16:10.07 | homunq | Its_me: read ^that^, it will explain stuff to you. |
| 16:10.10 | Its_me | dwins: Thanks for the Reply |
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| 16:10.47 | hypa7ia | Its_me: you're welcome :D |
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| 16:16.24 | devvrat | How many applications are received for small organizations |
| 16:16.29 | devvrat | any idea |
| 16:16.56 | scorche|sh | that cant really be generalized |
| 16:17.22 | devvrat | if someone has stats |
| 16:17.28 | ScottMac | are there any GSoC admins about? |
| 16:17.43 | ScottMac | lh is away, but are there any others? |
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| 16:17.53 | homunq | !ask |
| 16:17.53 | socinfo | "ask" is don't ask to ask, just ask! |
| 16:17.58 | scorche|sh | ScottMac: what did you need one for? |
| 16:18.09 | ScottMac | our backup admin name is wrong |
| 16:18.15 | ScottMac | and our primary admin is on holiday |
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| 16:18.26 | ScottMac | so we've not been able to actual fill in our organisation profile |
| 16:18.33 | ScottMac | and we can't accept mentors or do anything |
| 16:18.50 | devvrat | your org? |
| 16:19.00 | ScottMac | PHP |
| 16:19.02 | homunq | ScottMac: you might try asking on #melange, too. |
| 16:19.07 | scorche|sh | i would head over to #melange and see if they can do anything about it |
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| 16:19.49 | ScottMac | already there, so I'll ask |
| 16:20.31 | alexstre^ | !orgs |
| 16:20.31 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
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| 16:37.22 | beket | !faq |
| 16:37.22 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 16:40.02 | beket | so is it possible that a student applies for a project and google refuses it, during the 'students' slots allocation' process ? |
| 16:40.32 | pxia | come again? |
| 16:40.54 | ahuillet | that's the way it works :) |
| 16:40.57 | borja | beket: Google won't refuse it; if anything, the mentoring organization you applied to will not select it. |
| 16:41.07 | luke-jr | SPAMMER BOT |
| 16:41.22 | beket | borja, but if it selected by the mentoring organisation, is it guaranteed that google will allocated a slot for it ? |
| 16:41.31 | beket | allocate* |
| 16:41.58 | borja | beket: no, but that's because mentoring organizations will be given limited student slots. Google does not "refuse" projects (which seems to imply that Google evaluates the student proposals) |
| 16:41.58 | beket | http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#program_works step 6 |
| 16:42.04 | ahuillet | selected by the mentoring organization does not mean much |
| 16:42.16 | ahuillet | the mentoring organization ranks the applications |
| 16:42.25 | ahuillet | and then google allocates a certain number of slots to that organization |
| 16:42.33 | ahuillet | if you're > n, you're not taken |
| 16:42.49 | rashmi_ | hey all... does anybody know of a mentoring org which is into networks? |
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| 16:42.59 | Ragnaroek | I'm not a number |
| 16:43.00 | beket | Alright, so google can discard a project indirectly |
| 16:43.12 | easwar | !orgs |
| 16:43.14 | socinfo | "orgs" is http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 16:43.20 | ahuillet | beket : yes |
| 16:43.34 | beket | thanks ahuillet / borja |
| 16:43.50 | hypa7ia | rashmi_: what kind of networks |
| 16:44.22 | rashmi_ | something like internet protocols... such stuff... |
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| 16:45.05 | hypa7ia | rashmi_: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/network_adminstration and http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/networks |
| 16:45.45 | rashmi_ | oh... thats perfect... thanks... |
| 16:45.59 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 16:46.06 | hypa7ia | rashmi_: there are probably others too |
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| 16:46.12 | kasiahayden | Are there mentoring organizations that are more receptive to beginning coders than others? Out of all of the project ideas I've browsed, the projects I'd be capable of are usually in the "Easy" categories, so I'm wondering if I have a chance |
| 16:46.13 | hypa7ia | keep an eye on those links |
| 16:46.28 | ahuillet | kasiahayden : well, don't try GCC ;) |
| 16:46.42 | kasiahayden | haha, good advice |
| 16:46.49 | hypa7ia | kasiahayden: the easy projects are there because orgs want them to get done - so come up with a good application, and go for it :) |
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| 16:46.53 | devvrat | lolz |
| 16:47.17 | kasiahayden | hypa7ia: thanks |
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| 16:47.53 | easwar | I guess sounding knowledgeable of what you will be dealing with is quite important even if you are a newbie coder |
| 16:48.05 | easwar | which implies doing your homework? |
| 16:48.13 | ajuonline | anyone from India here? Join ##gsoc-india |
| 16:48.27 | devvrat | ya |
| 16:48.34 | rashmi_ | well, I am from India but I am right now doing MS in US.... |
| 16:48.38 | hypa7ia | easwar: yup, doing your homework is key |
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| 16:49.52 | kasiahayden | easwar: That's exactly what I want to make sure I do- that I take on projects that I can realistically do, and wont' waste mentoring orgs' time |
| 16:50.23 | easwar | hypa7ia, does that mean understanding the code you will be dealing with,the APIs and stuff,or just knowing what you will need to put into doing it,and mentioning that? |
| 16:50.58 | hypa7ia | easwar: understand as much as you can, and be clear on what you don't |
| 16:51.17 | easwar | kasiahayden, well,best of luck,I'm not very knowledgeable about what I can do either,I'm counting on passion for my idea to keep me coding through the boring days |
| 16:51.30 | kasiahayden | hypa7ia: What about creating timelines? I find that kind of diffcult to do at this stage |
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| 16:51.47 | easwar | hypa7ia, so,I can put in "I have read the code,and understand it" in my proposal? |
| 16:51.53 | hypa7ia | kasiahayden: i know what you mean, that was the toughest thing when i wrote applications last year |
| 16:51.55 | kasiahayden | , since I'm still getting good at estimating the time |
| 16:51.58 | easwar | also timelines,as kasiahayden asked |
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| 16:52.14 | hypa7ia | break your project down into chunks as small as you can |
| 16:52.20 | hypa7ia | come up with a sketch design |
| 16:52.25 | hypa7ia | and estimate the parts |
| 16:53.30 | kasiahayden | hypa7ia: thanks. When you applied, did you apply to more than one org? |
| 16:53.45 | hypa7ia | kasiahayden: i actually ended up getting a job before applying |
| 16:53.50 | hypa7ia | in hindsight, i wish i'd applied! |
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| 16:53.58 | kasiahayden | why's that? |
| 16:54.08 | kasiahayden | for the options? |
| 16:54.20 | hypa7ia | the summer job was boring :/ |
| 16:54.27 | hypa7ia | and involved windows! |
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| 16:54.53 | kasiahayden | ohhh, i thought you meant you'd gotten a job with a mentoring org before officially applying. |
| 16:55.08 | kasiahayden | i'm really sorry to hear that! |
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| 16:55.18 | hypa7ia | kasiahayden: nope, with a local company |
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| 16:55.54 | hypa7ia | ok, lunchtime! |
| 16:56.05 | kasiahayden | those awful jobs are great motivators for applying to things like this. I just can't spend another summer teaching traders how to use Excel. |
| 16:56.11 | easwar | bon appetit hypa7ia |
| 16:56.13 | kasiahayden | thanks |
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| 17:10.19 | zooko | Howdy, folks! |
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| 17:10.59 | miteshsharma | !gnome |
| 17:10.59 | socinfo | Error: "gnome" is not a valid command. |
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| 17:12.02 | miteshsharma | can gsoc-gnome queries be made here? |
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| 17:14.24 | Anot | the mono project ideas list has changed since yesterday :( |
| 17:14.30 | vuntz | miteshsharma: probably better to join #soc on irc.gnome.org |
| 17:14.36 | Anot | can i still apply for one of the ideas listed previously? |
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| 17:15.21 | ahuillet | anot : you have to talk to them. |
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| 17:16.43 | Anot | thanks ahuillet |
| 17:17.04 | ahuillet | whatever happens you have to talk to the mentoring organization anyway |
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| 17:17.54 | Anot | yeah |
| 17:17.54 | ajuonline | rkirti: hi |
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| 17:17.59 | Anot | thats right |
| 17:18.24 | Anot | what i'm wondering is that if i still go ahead with applying for the same,is it a sure failure? |
| 17:18.48 | ahuillet | for the same what? |
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| 17:19.13 | Anot | for an idea which has been removed from the ideas list |
| 17:19.30 | ahuillet | anot: why are you asking here anyway... talk to the guys who know |
| 17:19.53 | ahuillet | in any case as I said if you do not talk to them I can pretty much guarantee you that, for any organization, your application is going to end up in /dev/null |
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| 17:21.02 | Anot | in that case,after joining their irc channel ,how do i get to know who is the mentor? |
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| 17:21.24 | blast007 | by asking :) |
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| 17:21.35 | ahuillet | anot : I ask the stars myself |
| 17:21.52 | ahuillet | but asking on the channel is the canonical way |
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| 17:23.41 | mib_mhigc6ry | hello |
| 17:23.46 | Bertl | is there some kind of feedback for 'rejected' applications, i.e. why they got rejected or so? |
| 17:23.58 | mib_mhigc6ry | hello |
| 17:24.13 | Anot | wasn't there last time @bertl |
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| 17:24.21 | mib_mhigc6ry | hello anot |
| 17:24.33 | mib_mhigc6ry | i am anew user of irc |
| 17:24.44 | rkirti | ajuonline, hi. sorry, had dozed off on my desk |
| 17:24.56 | Anot | hello |
| 17:24.57 | mib_mhigc6ry | i am planning to participate in gsoc |
| 17:25.04 | Anot | ok |
| 17:25.09 | Anot | so? |
| 17:25.19 | ajuonline | rkirti: you mean, you fell asleep :P ? |
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| 17:25.21 | ahuillet | Bertl : lh was giving such feedback on IRC recently, and IIRC she said you could mail her to ask as well |
| 17:25.32 | mib_mhigc6ry | i am doing a project on c archive network |
| 17:25.40 | mib_mhigc6ry | anot??? |
| 17:25.45 | rkirti | ajuonline: yup. |
| 17:25.51 | Anot | yes? |
| 17:25.56 | Anot | thats good |
| 17:26.02 | mib_mhigc6ry | can u help me in this?? |
| 17:26.16 | mib_ngakzpf3 | Hi, I'm interested to participate in GSoC .. are there some projects related to NLP (Natural Language Processing) |
| 17:26.26 | mib_ngakzpf3 | I would like to do a project in that area |
| 17:26.30 | Anot | i prefer to work on c# and the .NET framework. |
| 17:26.47 | Anot | I'm sure you wil find someone here who can be more usefull. |
| 17:26.56 | Bertl | ahuillet: hmm, got an url for me? (email address or so?) |
| 17:27.01 | mib_mhigc6ry | anot can u please tell me someyhing about c# |
| 17:27.13 | ahuillet | Bertl : that would be lhospo AT gmail.com |
| 17:27.17 | mib_mhigc6ry | is it like c language??? |
| 17:27.20 | Anot | as far as NLP is concerrned,what exactly are you looking to work on? |
| 17:27.24 | Bertl | ahuillet: thanks a bunch! |
| 17:27.26 | Anot | speech recognition? |
| 17:27.40 | Anot | yeah |
| 17:27.41 | blast007 | mib_mhigc6ry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp |
| 17:27.47 | Anot | it is kind of like c. |
| 17:27.49 | mib_mhigc6ry | may i know anot where are u from??? |
| 17:27.58 | Anot | more like c++ and java's best features combined |
| 17:28.04 | Anot | again,thats a personal opinion |
| 17:28.06 | blast007 | (I guess this one specifically) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp_(programming_language) |
| 17:28.16 | mib_mhigc6ry | can u suggest me some books on c# |
| 17:28.25 | Anot | yeah |
| 17:28.35 | Anot | try orielly Head First c# |
| 17:28.42 | Anot | excellent book to start with |
| 17:28.44 | mib_ngakzpf3 | I'm looking for some sentence parsing, machine learning approaches to do the same |
| 17:28.47 | Anot | I'm from India btw. |
| 17:28.56 | PulpFictionPB | Anot: u got a project idea for Mono? |
| 17:29.02 | Anot | yes |
| 17:29.09 | Anot | i'm looking for a mentor |
| 17:29.10 | Anot | :( |
| 17:29.11 | mib_mhigc6ry | i am too from india |
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| 17:29.32 | mib_mhigc6ry | may i know from which city??? |
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| 17:29.49 | Anot | what organization u plan to work with @mib_ngakzpf3 |
| 17:30.08 | Anot | I'm from Goa. BITS-Pilani, Goa Campus |
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| 17:30.38 | mib_mhigc6ry | i am from bcrec,durgapur... |
| 17:30.39 | Anot | @pulpFictionPB, you also have plans for the mono project? |
| 17:30.48 | blast007 | Anot: you tried asking on #monosoc on irc.gnome.org ? |
| 17:31.16 | Anot | yeah |
| 17:31.19 | Anot | i tried there |
| 17:31.21 | blast007 | k |
| 17:31.27 | Anot | it seems all the mentors have gone for lunch |
| 17:31.28 | Anot | :( |
| 17:31.32 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:31.39 | mib_ngakzpf3 | I was looking at opencog organization (singularity Institute of AI) |
| 17:31.42 | blast007 | such is the nature of IRC ;) |
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| 17:32.11 | mib_ngakzpf3 | but I would like to know if there are any other projects related to NLP other than that |
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| 17:34.02 | chunmun | danderson: the present soc 2008 pages list only 922 applications under various orgs. these are the ones which were finally successful? I mean the ones which were initially selected but then failed to complete have been removed? |
| 17:34.07 | rohananil | Anot: which organization? |
| 17:34.14 | PulpFictionPB | Anot: which field related u have an idea? |
| 17:34.46 | mib_ngakzpf3 | I have Idea about NLP area |
| 17:34.49 | Anot | @rohananil Mono Project |
| 17:34.56 | mib_ngakzpf3 | Natural Language Processing (text) |
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| 17:35.07 | Anot | @pulpfiction: silverlight/Moonlight projects |
| 17:35.14 | rohananil | Anot: Which year ? ( come on dc) |
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| 17:35.37 | Anot | bliz |
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| 17:35.41 | kumarabhi | i had a question: how do one find a mentor ? |
| 17:35.48 | kumarabhi | for some proj |
| 17:35.49 | kumarabhi | ? |
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| 17:35.56 | PulpFictionPB | rohananil is also from BITS.. dude Anot tell him! |
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| 17:36.20 | chunmun | kumarabhi: you from nit trichy? |
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| 17:36.27 | Anot | yes |
| 17:36.32 | mib_ngakzpf3 | Hello, could anyone tell me about the projects related to NLP |
| 17:36.39 | Anot | bits net >.< |
| 17:36.47 | codestasher | ob |
| 17:36.59 | kumarabhi | chunmun : u r anshu , i know u: this is kr abhishek |
| 17:37.13 | chunmun | waves at kumarabhi :P |
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| 17:37.24 | chunmun | thought so |
| 17:37.28 | kumarabhi | chunmun: i always ask silly questions! |
| 17:38.02 | chunmun | kumarabhi: first concentrate on on selecting orgs and projects |
| 17:38.03 | mib_c9aj46 | so it seems a lot of students from india |
| 17:38.12 | kumarabhi | chunmun:ya |
| 17:38.12 | mib_c9aj46 | are participating this year |
| 17:38.19 | devvrat | ya |
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| 17:38.35 | chunmun | mib_c9aj46: india had the second largest participants last yr if I remember correctly |
| 17:38.45 | devvrat | agreed |
| 17:38.50 | mib_c9aj46 | great |
| 17:38.56 | chunmun | kumarabhi: if your project is good, your org will choose a mentor for you |
| 17:39.00 | kumarabhi | chunmun:u r right |
| 17:39.03 | mib_c9aj46 | I am also from india (IIT K) |
| 17:39.17 | kumarabhi | mib_c9aj46:good |
| 17:39.18 | chunmun | kumarabhi: if you can find a mentor who likes your idea, pretty cool |
| 17:39.22 | devvrat | who are yo mib_c9aj46 |
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| 17:39.35 | chunmun | waves at mib_c9aj46 |
| 17:39.44 | kumarabhi | chunmun:but where shud i find the mentor? |
| 17:39.52 | mib_c9aj46 | a CS student at IITK |
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| 17:40.03 | chunmun | you go and talk in the org irc channel |
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| 17:40.11 | chunmun | most orgs are #org at freenode |
| 17:40.12 | devvrat | mib_c9aj46: a first year |
| 17:40.12 | kumarabhi | chunmun:o |
| 17:40.14 | devvrat | ? |
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| 17:40.49 | chunmun | kumarabhi: you know how to join a channel rt? |
| 17:41.00 | kumarabhi | chunmun:ya i know |
| 17:41.12 | chunmun | cool |
| 17:41.20 | mib_a5h6brpd | whats channel rt now..?? |
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| 17:41.54 | chunmun | mib_a5h6brpd: channel in irc is something like your chatroom in your normal chats |
| 17:42.14 | chunmun | mib_a5h6brpd:so each mo has a dedicated or multiple channels |
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| 17:42.34 | kumarabhi | chumun: the green colors on right half mean they r dev people of the org, right? |
| 17:42.51 | chunmun | kumarabhi: nops |
| 17:42.53 | chunmun | :) |
| 17:43.12 | kumarabhi | then? |
| 17:43.23 | chunmun | kumarabhi: afaik, that color specifies nothing :P |
| 17:43.30 | kumarabhi | ok |
| 17:44.19 | chunmun | kumarabhi: chx, the guy below me in the list rt now is a mentor for drupal :P |
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| 17:44.44 | kumarabhi | chunmun:ok |
| 17:45.02 | chunmun | so which orgs ve you narrowed down to? |
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| 17:48.18 | ravenlock | hiya, I've not seen posted this year the amount the student's stipend is this year. |
| 17:48.20 | ravenlock | anyone know? |
| 17:48.30 | Lennie | !faq |
| 17:48.30 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:48.30 | Lennie | ? |
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| 17:48.42 | ravenlock | hm... I looked over the faq. |
| 17:48.44 | Lennie | should be in there |
| 17:48.46 | ravenlock | musta missed it |
| 17:48.54 | kumarabhi | chumun:r u asking me? |
| 17:49.03 | Lennie | and afaik it should be the same as last year 5k |
| 17:49.11 | Lennie | from which 4.5 goes to the student I think |
| 17:49.53 | kumarabhi | chunmun: thinking for gnome, ubuntu, kde, may be drupal |
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| 17:49.59 | ravenlock | Lennie: yeah. I had assumed last year was a good guess. just wondering if it had truly been determined yet. |
| 17:50.10 | chunmun | kumarabhi:ohk.. |
| 17:50.33 | kumarabhi | chunmun:ok u be my mentor and i will be ur student |
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| 17:50.40 | kumarabhi | chunmun: :) |
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| 17:51.22 | chunmun | kumarabhi: lolz. I vent yet finalised if I ll be a mentor |
| 17:51.36 | chunmun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:53.06 | kumarabhi | chumun: cool, was jokin |
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| 17:56.14 | mitesh | !help |
| 17:56.14 | socinfo | "help" is see !faq, !advice and !wiki |
| 17:58.26 | ajuonline | good day Lennie |
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| 17:59.28 | mitesh | !faq |
| 17:59.29 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:59.47 | Lennie | hi ajuonline :) |
| 17:59.54 | mib_k4kbf8 | where can i find a list of all the participating organisations? |
| 17:59.59 | Lennie | !list |
| 17:59.59 | socinfo | Error: "list" is not a valid command. |
| 18:00.00 | Lennie | ? |
| 18:00.01 | Lennie | hmm |
| 18:00.02 | Lennie | lame :) |
| 18:00.22 | mitesh | as a student where do we apply our proposal ideas? |
| 18:00.33 | Lennie | on the website |
| 18:00.36 | ajuonline | !next |
| 18:00.36 | socinfo | "next" is March 18-23: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 18:00.37 | Lennie | but not until monday |
| 18:00.39 | mib_k4kbf8 | !faq |
| 18:00.39 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 18:00.44 | Lennie | ajuonline, nice :) |
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| 18:00.45 | ajuonline | Lennie: ^ mib_k4kbf8 ^ |
| 18:00.53 | ajuonline | ouch |
| 18:01.19 | icy | !list = http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 18:01.19 | socinfo | Error: "list" is not a valid command. |
| 18:01.19 | mib_k4kbf8 | ajuonline: wats dis? |
| 18:01.29 | icy | was worth a try |
| 18:01.43 | ajuonline | mib_k4kbf8: sorry. |
| 18:01.44 | mib_k4kbf8 | !list |
| 18:01.44 | socinfo | Error: "list" is not a valid command. |
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| 18:02.01 | mib_k4kbf8 | sorry 4 wat? |
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| 18:02.32 | ajuonline | mib_k4kbf8: for not being an idiot |
| 18:02.33 | ajuonline | :P |
| 18:02.44 | mib_k4kbf8 | hahaa! |
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| 18:13.15 | Lennie | anyone from holland wanting to participate in GSoC 2009? |
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| 18:14.31 | ajuonline | Lennie: India? no? |
| 18:14.32 | ajuonline | :P |
| 18:14.37 | Lennie | hehe |
| 18:14.59 | Lennie | If I'd said india I would have gotten atleast one response, right ajuonline :)? |
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| 18:15.13 | ajuonline | i should probably eat and then prepare for my talk. i am feeling better from the cold now. |
| 18:15.20 | ajuonline | Lennie: yeah, me for sure :D |
| 18:15.23 | Lennie | :) |
| 18:15.29 | Lennie | have a good meal then |
| 18:15.42 | amit8-88 | no at least two ;) |
| 18:15.42 | Lennie | I'm going to finish some patch for Melange |
| 18:15.55 | ajuonline | oh yeah Lennie there you have my room mate as well |
| 18:15.56 | amit8-88 | Lennie: count me in too |
| 18:16.02 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: You might try asking about the netherlands if you want answers ;) |
| 18:16.02 | ajuonline | Lennie: you know #melange rocks :P |
| 18:16.03 | mib_k4kbf8 | i m an indian |
| 18:16.06 | Lennie | amit8-88 your roommate? |
| 18:16.09 | MatthewWilkes | Bit specific, no? |
| 18:16.21 | amit8-88 | yeah ;) |
| 18:16.23 | mib_k4kbf8 | ;) |
| 18:16.28 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, I like Holland :P |
| 18:16.36 | mib_k4kbf8 | me too |
| 18:16.45 | Lennie | but yeah you are right |
| 18:16.50 | Lennie | it should be Netherlands :) |
| 18:16.52 | ajuonline | no i dont like their cricket team :P |
| 18:17.04 | ajuonline | is biased towards the Indian team |
| 18:17.12 | Lennie | lol ajuonline and amit8-88 share a room. |
| 18:17.19 | Lennie | So amit8-88, also a Big Bang Theory fan then :)? |
| 18:17.23 | rohananil | ajuonline: seriously? |
| 18:17.32 | amit8-88 | Lennie: yes :) |
| 18:17.34 | ajuonline | Lennie: yeah ;) |
| 18:17.36 | Lennie | cool |
| 18:17.57 | ajuonline | Lennie: i passed around the madness to 2 of the peeps in our apartment ;) |
| 18:17.57 | MatthewWilkes | ajuonline: I'm hoping to get allocated a ticket for the ashes |
| 18:18.09 | MatthewWilkes | Can only afford 1 day of a test though - they're really expensive |
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| 18:18.16 | Lennie | wb lh |
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| 18:18.23 | Lennie | ajuonline, cool |
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| 18:18.37 | MatthewWilkes | (Around £455 / test) |
| 18:18.40 | ajuonline | :O |
| 18:18.53 | ajuonline | i would prefer watching on TV :D |
| 18:19.14 | rohananil | ajuonline: :) |
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| 18:19.24 | MatthewWilkes | ajuonline: Really? Why? |
| 18:19.45 | ajuonline | MatthewWilkes: apart from that cost, i will need to spend at least double than that to get plain tickets? |
| 18:19.48 | ajuonline | :P |
| 18:20.05 | MatthewWilkes | ajuonline: Bah, that's practicality, not what you'd prefer :) |
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| 18:20.24 | MatthewWilkes | The 2nd test is over my birthday, 2nd day I'm in the ballot for tickets, 4th day is my birthday |
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| 18:24.51 | KDz | i'm planing to apply to GSoC, but I'm not sure I'm eligible |
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| 18:25.08 | hypa7ia | KDz: why? |
| 18:25.26 | KDz | what is considered by work autorization |
| 18:25.49 | ajuonline | KDz: are you legally allowed to worko on "contract" during the GSoC period or not. |
| 18:25.57 | ajuonline | if you are in US. |
| 18:26.05 | KDz | i'm not |
| 18:26.17 | ajuonline | no to what? |
| 18:26.24 | KDz | i'm not in US |
| 18:26.42 | ajuonline | KDz: then filing a tax form. is all you need. |
| 18:26.52 | ajuonline | unless you are from one of the countries thats not allowed to participate. |
| 18:26.55 | ajuonline | as per US laws. |
| 18:26.57 | ajuonline | !faq |
| 18:26.57 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 18:27.02 | ajuonline | KDz: ^ |
| 18:27.08 | ajuonline | reading is healthy for the eyes. |
| 18:27.11 | Landon | I think I need to use this thing called caffeine |
| 18:27.22 | ajuonline | Landon: i can send you some :P |
| 18:27.29 | Landon | send me money instead :P |
| 18:27.31 | Landon | will be cheaper |
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| 18:27.44 | ajuonline | Landon: no, i would just email you some caffeine |
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| 18:27.47 | ajuonline | hang on |
| 18:27.49 | MatthewWilkes | oh, Lennie, check out http://plone.org - it's so new! |
| 18:27.58 | Landon | :( |
| 18:28.04 | KDz | my situation is: i'm living in one country and studying in university in another |
| 18:28.17 | KDz | btw. I have read faq |
| 18:28.28 | ajuonline | Landon: http://corporateknightsforum.com/images/uploads/coffee_beans.jpg |
| 18:28.34 | ajuonline | Landon: you're welcome |
| 18:28.43 | Landon | bah coffee |
| 18:28.50 | Lennie | lookd nice MatthewWilkes |
| 18:28.54 | Lennie | *looks |
| 18:29.17 | ajuonline | MatthewWilkes: looks fresh and kool :) |
| 18:29.31 | Landon | hm |
| 18:29.38 | Lennie | Plone development uses SCRUM? |
| 18:29.39 | Landon | are there any foods that taste *better* after brushing your teeth |
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| 18:29.47 | Lennie | I'm seeing sprint tasks in the issue tracker :P |
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| 18:29.52 | MatthewWilkes | It launched today, still getting used to it |
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| 18:30.01 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Linky? |
| 18:30.07 | Lennie | http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/2 |
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| 18:30.24 | MatthewWilkes | ah |
| 18:30.36 | MatthewWilkes | all 2 years old at least ;) |
| 18:30.41 | ajuonline | Landon: thanks for reminding, i forgot to do that today. |
| 18:30.56 | Lennie | hehe |
| 18:31.00 | Landon | bwahahah |
| 18:31.02 | MatthewWilkes | "Sprint" being roughly "hackathon" |
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| 18:31.13 | Lennie | ok :P |
| 18:31.28 | MatthewWilkes | Many companies use scrum, but we use "sprint" to refer to a few days of in-person hacking |
| 18:31.54 | Landon | dangit, 3rd rock from the sun and its the other episode I saw in the past year |
| 18:31.55 | Landon | what luck |
| 18:31.57 | MatthewWilkes | is hosting the next big one, in August |
| 18:32.31 | Lennie | in UK? |
| 18:32.32 | Lennie | or online :P |
| 18:33.35 | MatthewWilkes | UK |
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| 18:34.02 | MatthewWilkes | The participants list filled yesterday :) http://www.openplans.org/projects/balloon-sprint |
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| 18:35.01 | Lennie | nice nice |
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| 18:35.41 | MatthewWilkes | Got some people coming from san francisco :) |
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| 18:36.50 | ajuonline | Landon: but its midnight now. i will do that tomorrow now. |
| 18:36.58 | Landon | o.O |
| 18:37.18 | amit8-88 | !orgbylist |
| 18:37.18 | socinfo | Error: "orgbylist" is not a valid command. |
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| 18:37.27 | amit8-88 | !orgby lang |
| 18:37.27 | socinfo | Error: "orgby" is not a valid command. |
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| 18:37.34 | amit8-88 | !orgbylang |
| 18:37.34 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
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| 18:39.12 | schumaml | just read *orgy*bylang |
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| 18:39.33 | Lennie | bad schumaml :) |
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| 18:39.37 | MatthewWilkes | now that's a scary thought |
| 18:39.45 | MatthewWilkes | ruby developers procreating |
| 18:40.24 | schumaml | is the gimp org admin. imagine that type of orgy ;) |
| 18:40.38 | ajuonline | =)) |
| 18:40.58 | ajuonline | s/g/p +y |
| 18:41.33 | MatthewWilkes | ajuonline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimp_(sadomasochism) |
| 18:41.40 | MatthewWilkes | So innocent⦠|
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| 18:41.58 | schumaml | although it seems that this meaning is overrated |
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| 18:42.39 | ajuonline | MatthewWilkes: wth :O |
| 18:42.41 | ajuonline | :P |
| 18:43.09 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, wtf |
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| 18:43.22 | MatthewWilkes | Have you guys never heard of a gimp before!? |
| 18:43.42 | ajuonline | no - not me. |
| 18:43.46 | Lennie | gimp |
| 18:43.47 | Lennie | yes |
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| 18:43.52 | Lennie | but not in this context :P |
| 18:43.53 | ajuonline | not that* |
| 18:44.09 | MatthewWilkes | how odd |
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| 18:44.36 | schumaml | MatthewWilkes: doesn't seem to be used much outside of the bsdm community with this meaning, and I'm not sure how widespread it is being used there |
| 18:44.47 | schumaml | err, bdsm community |
| 18:44.58 | kitallis | lol who hasn't heard of gimp before? |
| 18:45.08 | Landon | who hasn't seen pulp fiction before |
| 18:45.09 | Landon | :) |
| 18:45.16 | PulpFictionPB | ha ha.. i will second that :) |
| 18:45.18 | schumaml | many people, actually |
| 18:45.24 | MatthewWilkes | schumaml: Well, it's in pretty widespread use in the UK, afaik |
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| 18:45.40 | kitallis | i thought he meant pulp fiction |
| 18:45.41 | PulpFictionPB | ajuonline: u have not heard of GIMP? |
| 18:45.49 | kitallis | he's joking |
| 18:45.52 | MatthewWilkes | Not a exclusively bsdm community word, especially as "gimp mask" or "gimp constume" |
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| 18:45.59 | allisterb | well it's good to learn something everyday |
| 18:46.01 | kitallis | i use it pretty much |
| 18:46.02 | PulpFictionPB | and who has not seen pulp fiction? |
| 18:46.05 | MatthewWilkes | In fact, the logo of one of our student union bars is a gimp |
| 18:46.06 | kitallis | i have |
| 18:46.52 | schumaml | wouldn't be able to understand the pulp fiction reference if he had only seen the dubbed version of it |
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| 18:48.33 | ajuonline | o.O |
| 18:48.35 | hypa7ia | gimp is also a slur against the disabled |
| 18:48.39 | hypa7ia | :/ |
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| 18:49.35 | MatthewWilkes | hypa7ia: Yeah, not in common use in that sense here anymore though. Still understandable in context, however. |
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| 18:51.26 | jphr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.28 | jphr | whoops |
| 18:51.33 | hypa7ia | it's in fairly common use on this side of the pond, MatthewWilkes |
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| 18:57.39 | iron_ | hi everybody |
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| 18:59.22 | Lennie | hi iron_ |
| 18:59.44 | roddomi | hi, have a question: is there a way to get feedback from a past GSoC student on an specific project/mentor? |
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| 19:00.49 | Lennie | yeah |
| 19:00.54 | schumaml | roddomi: ask them directly? |
| 19:00.58 | Lennie | idd |
| 19:01.40 | Lennie | usually projects keep track of GSoC stuff, so you should be able to find out who the student is and perhaps how to contact him/her |
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| 19:03.15 | roddomi | i see the student's name from the 2008 website but i don't see his contact info |
| 19:03.38 | Lennie | google it :)? |
| 19:03.44 | hypa7ia | nah |
| 19:03.46 | hypa7ia | facebook |
| 19:03.55 | ajuonline | "student name"+"orgname" |
| 19:03.55 | hypa7ia | these are students we're talking about here : |
| 19:03.56 | Lennie | the internet is full of surprises :) |
| 19:03.57 | hypa7ia | :) |
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| 19:05.59 | roddomi | :) |
| 19:06.18 | ajuonline | googles his name |
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| 19:06.56 | ajuonline | works fine |
| 19:07.05 | Lennie | hehe |
| 19:07.15 | Lennie | there is much you can find out about someone :) |
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| 19:07.48 | ajuonline | especially for people who live on the internet |
| 19:08.45 | Lennie | only thing that sucks about my search query is that google suggests a different spelling |
| 19:08.56 | AlekSi | so calm... |
| 19:09.01 | zooko | Hello hypa7ia. |
| 19:09.25 | zooko | hypa7ia: what contact info should I provide to Tahoe folks when I tell them that Tahoe isn't GSoC sponsored and that they might be interested in your org? |
| 19:09.29 | AlekSi | remembers madness at 2008-04-21 |
| 19:09.30 | roddomi | i found him! :) thanks |
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| 19:13.24 | hypa7ia | zooko: my email is leigh@hypatia.ca, and our irc channel is #openswan-dev |
| 19:13.41 | hypa7ia | we don't have channels for the dnssec stuff or otr |
| 19:13.47 | Lennie | roddomi, dont thank us. Thanks the internet :) |
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| 19:14.58 | scorche | hypa7ia: erm...putting emails in "plaintext" into a publicly logged channel that is indexed by google isnt the best of ideas.. |
| 19:15.22 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: I'll fix it. ^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W |
| 19:15.26 | MatthewWilkes | ;) |
| 19:16.02 | Catfish_Man | scorche: meh. My resume is indexed by google and has my contact info |
| 19:16.07 | Catfish_Man | somehow it doesn't seem to matter |
| 19:16.13 | Lennie | ttyal, volleyball match time. Have fun preparing your proposals ;) |
| 19:16.16 | scorche | shrugs |
| 19:16.27 | kloeri | my email address is all over the web so it wouldn't matter at all in my case |
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| 19:18.26 | hypa7ia | scorche: meh |
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| 19:18.32 | hypa7ia | i have good anti-spam |
| 19:18.35 | ajuonline | shrugs as well |
| 19:18.40 | hypa7ia | and my email is already thorougly indexed |
| 19:18.45 | hypa7ia | but thanks anyway :) |
| 19:18.45 | ajuonline | @gmail.com |
| 19:18.51 | ajuonline | buwahahaha |
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| 19:26.13 | ved | giri |
| 19:27.26 | ved | kya hua ? |
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| 19:28.11 | chunmun | hi ved, hi giri |
| 19:28.47 | VDVsx | lh, pm ? |
| 19:29.00 | ved | hi churmun |
| 19:29.21 | chunmun | ved: where you from, I presume india..? |
| 19:29.30 | ved | ya |
| 19:29.35 | ved | u r right |
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| 19:29.40 | chunmun | ved: where in there? |
| 19:29.47 | ved | from bihar |
| 19:29.50 | chunmun | hi ravindra.. |
| 19:30.14 | chunmun | ved: nice.. and where in bihar.. excuse my inquisitiveness :P |
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| 19:30.35 | ved | samastipur |
| 19:30.45 | chunmun | ved: ohk.. :P |
| 19:30.51 | ved | and u ? |
| 19:31.05 | chunmun | well native of patna but brought up in delhi |
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| 19:31.11 | chunmun | rt now in trichy |
| 19:31.40 | ved | this time i m in alleppey(kerala) |
| 19:31.41 | chunmun | my first g/f s grandparents were from samastipur though :P |
| 19:31.48 | chunmun | ved: wow! |
| 19:31.56 | chunmun | ved: what you doing in alleppy??? |
| 19:32.06 | chunmun | ved: I so wanna go there! |
| 19:32.07 | ved | B.tech |
| 19:32.30 | chunmun | ved: pm? |
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| 19:32.59 | ved | pm? |
| 19:33.22 | ved | doing btech in electrical & electronics |
| 19:33.36 | ved | Cochin University |
| 19:34.01 | chunmun | ved: ohk.. nice.. maybe will buzz you once I finalise upon my alleppy trip :P |
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| 19:36.11 | jdkav | josh__, : any idea for python proposals |
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| 19:39.03 | lh | VDVsx: ok |
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| 19:50.08 | sfb | Hi |
| 19:50.15 | ravindra | hi |
| 19:50.25 | sfb | Is there any way I could go about getting feedback on my org's rejected application? |
| 19:50.32 | sfb | Find out why and what I could do better next year? |
| 19:50.47 | scorche | sfb: depends if lh is active and has the time or not |
| 19:50.53 | ahuillet | sfb : you're gonna have to mail lh directly since you missed her big "IRC feedback giving" |
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| 19:51.26 | ahuillet | include the link to your project ideas page in the mail I guess |
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| 19:52.12 | prix | giri r u there ? |
| 19:52.39 | prix | Ravindra Giri r u there ???????? |
| 19:53.22 | lh | sfb: you are in queue |
| 19:53.58 | scorche | oooooo...bsodtv seems to have put up an episode on Rockbox |
| 19:54.00 | scorche | watches |
| 19:54.24 | sfb | lh: Thank you much. |
| 19:54.51 | sfb | ahuillet: Unfortunately I was not around for that. I was adding a new member to the family. (; |
| 19:55.12 | hypa7ia | congrats sfb :) |
| 19:55.13 | lh | sfb: congratulations to you. how is the little one? |
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| 19:55.32 | prince1600 | hi there |
| 19:55.35 | scorche | sfb: congrats...all went well, i hope? |
| 19:55.44 | sfb | lh: Baby girl Lily is doing fantastic, we're home and happy. |
| 19:55.57 | sfb | lh: And, knock on wood, she's a decent sleeper at night. |
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| 19:56.22 | lh | sfb: good for you. :) |
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| 19:58.04 | sfb | looks up who was accepted.. |
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| 19:59.37 | ecin | !timeline |
| 19:59.37 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 19:59.52 | ecin | Anyone trying to work on Ruby-based projects here? |
| 20:03.25 | lh | sfb: you're up |
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| 20:07.47 | lh | sfb: ping? |
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| 20:13.47 | icy | lh: if you have some spare time, could you tell me why our project (lighttpd) was rejected? thanks |
| 20:14.43 | lil_Toady | aw, lighttpd rejected :( |
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| 20:15.58 | icy | lil_Toady: exactly :) |
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| 20:17.01 | schumaml | icy: did you apply for the first time? |
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| 20:17.09 | icy | schumaml: yes |
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| 20:19.36 | Abhinav1 | Is it necessary to apply on the wiki "http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Summer_of_Code_Applications" before I apply on "http://socghop.appspot.com"? As Some one Suggested me to do that.. |
| 20:20.20 | schumaml | icy: all that google does find are lighttpd soc ideas for 2008, though :) |
| 20:20.37 | schumaml | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/lighttpd/GSoC2008Ideas |
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| 20:23.22 | objorn | anyone know if the ES OS has a chat channel? |
| 20:23.37 | icy | schumaml: if I google for "lighttpd gsoc" I get the 2009 page as fourth entry |
| 20:23.49 | icy | schumaml: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/GSoC2009 |
| 20:23.53 | lh | icy: yes |
| 20:24.04 | lh | wonders where sfb went, likely is with his little girl |
| 20:24.35 | icy | schumaml: but the url was included in the application anyway |
| 20:25.32 | lh | icy: ideas list needs work. there are a lot of items listed here with no fleshing out at all. no languages needed, not even a longer description of the tast at hand no links to further documentation for students to learn from |
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| 20:26.38 | icy | lh: ok anything else that needs improvement? |
| 20:26.55 | New_Abhi | is anyone here for XIPH foundation |
| 20:27.05 | scorche | !anyone |
| 20:27.05 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 20:27.33 | ajuonline | New_Abhi: different organisations have different ways to intereact with students. If its mentioned that "potential" students, need to sign up on the orgs wiki. you should be doing that. |
| 20:28.15 | anirudhs | does anyone know any organization list that's based categories.. i am looking for orgs. that work on CAD and HCI |
| 20:28.29 | ajuonline | New_Abhi: i would just follow whats written in the organisations student guidelines page. and not believe on someone making a suggestion, unless he/she is a mentor from the organisation. |
| 20:28.30 | dhaun | !orgsbycat |
| 20:28.30 | socinfo | Error: "orgsbycat" is not a valid command. |
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| 20:28.35 | ajuonline | !orgbylang |
| 20:28.35 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 20:28.49 | ajuonline | anirudhs: ^AAAAABBBBB |
| 20:28.53 | hypa7ia | there's also types on that list, anirudhs |
| 20:28.53 | schumaml | someone could do the same for categories |
| 20:28.54 | lh | icy: i cant look more deeply now, but we could talk more later |
| 20:28.54 | objorn | i'm terrible at programming, but i would like to get better. is there a project for beginners that i might actually have a shot at.? |
| 20:28.55 | ajuonline | oops sorry for the junk chars. |
| 20:28.57 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 20:29.06 | Upthorn | how do you sort a list of organization by cat? |
| 20:29.10 | icy | lh: ok thanks so far, I'll catch you later then |
| 20:29.30 | Upthorn | I understand sorting by name, programming language, age... |
| 20:29.32 | hypa7ia | http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories |
| 20:29.33 | Upthorn | but cat? <_< |
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| 20:29.34 | Anot | go to http://delicious.com/gsoc2009 |
| 20:29.43 | hypa7ia | Upthorn: see the right hand side: tag bundles |
| 20:29.44 | ajuonline | objorn: everyone was a newbie. and no project is easy. it needs hard work. |
| 20:30.04 | ajuonline | objorn: you wouldnt know, unless you work on it and apply. so apply :) |
| 20:30.16 | Upthorn | hypa7ia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat |
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| 20:30.32 | anirudhs | ok thanks |
| 20:30.35 | Upthorn | I was making a joke |
| 20:30.36 | anirudhs | nice list guys |
| 20:30.44 | Upthorn | see. |
| 20:30.45 | anirudhs | ajuonline which organization ? |
| 20:30.49 | dhaun | socinfo: learn orgsbylang as 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 20:30.49 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:30.53 | hypa7ia | Upthorn: hehe, misread you :) |
| 20:30.55 | lh | icy: you're most welcome |
| 20:30.59 | anirudhs | any gsoc room for indian gsoccers ? |
| 20:31.03 | dhaun | socinfo: learn orgsbycat as 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 20:31.03 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:31.05 | dhaun | bah |
| 20:31.07 | hypa7ia | nono dhaun you replaces orgsbylang |
| 20:31.10 | dhaun | !orgsbylang |
| 20:31.10 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is (#1) The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages, or (#2) 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 20:31.11 | hypa7ia | er replaced |
| 20:31.17 | ajuonline | anirudhs: ##gsoc-india |
| 20:31.21 | Upthorn | !orgsbycat |
| 20:31.21 | socinfo | "orgsbycat" is 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 20:31.26 | Upthorn | okay |
| 20:31.26 | dhaun | socinfo: forget orgsbylang 2 |
| 20:31.27 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 20:31.27 | hypa7ia | woot |
| 20:31.33 | dhaun | !orgsbylang |
| 20:31.33 | socinfo | "orgsbylang" is The 2009 list is work in progress: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Languages |
| 20:31.37 | dhaun | !orgsbycat |
| 20:31.37 | socinfo | "orgsbycat" is 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 20:31.44 | objorn | i feel that google wouldn't choose me though if they saw an app with more knowledge |
| 20:31.45 | dhaun | phew |
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| 20:32.17 | objorn | i'm wondering if there's a project where initial knowledge doesn't matter so much, and i can progress as the project progresses |
| 20:32.17 | ajuonline | objorn: google doesnt chooses anyone. the projects/organisations does. unless your project doesnt fall in any of the projects. and you choose Google as the mentoring organisation. |
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| 20:32.51 | objorn | okay, i will check around with the organizations then. thank you ajuonline |
| 20:33.05 | ajuonline | objorn: you are welcome. good luck! |
| 20:33.19 | Diptarka | Hi i m diptarka. I have experience in game programming . But as a second yr I don't have experience in open source coding. Do i have a good chance for gsoc? |
| 20:33.42 | ajuonline | Diptarka: yes. |
| 20:33.47 | ajuonline | apply :) |
| 20:34.04 | Anot | depends on how much time u are willing to spend researching ideas and writing the application |
| 20:34.09 | New_Abhi | ajuonline:and How can i know who is the mentor? anyone can talk me as Mentor |
| 20:34.17 | atulagrwl | Diptarka: gsoc is meant so that students start working on opensource programming. |
| 20:34.48 | ajuonline | New_Abhi: organisations do put up list of potential mentors on their idea/soc09 page |
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| 20:35.39 | ajuonline | for all who are new to open source, i recommend reading up on http://www.producingoss.com/ |
| 20:35.50 | lh | agrees with ajuonline |
| 20:36.18 | araujo | hands some tea to lh |
| 20:36.23 | ajuonline | yAy~ lh |
| 20:36.35 | ajuonline | lh: i caught cold. can I catch you tomorrow? |
| 20:36.43 | ajuonline | i have been sleeeeeping! |
| 20:37.07 | Diptarka | I want to start with something small. I was going through the project ideas and i am really fascinated with on of ideas. I am so much fascinated that I wish to do it just as a volunteer even if I am not selected but I am not getting much information related to that so what should i do? |
| 20:37.28 | ajuonline | Diptarka: best to start discussing with the organisation via IRC or Mailing lists. |
| 20:37.46 | ajuonline | Diptarka: the information should be on their organisation page / soc page |
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| 20:40.07 | atulagrwl | ~seen warren |
| 20:40.14 | ibot | warren <n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren> was last seen on IRC in channel #debianppc, 92d 2h 57m 30s ago, saying: 'or mac users in general'. |
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| 20:47.36 | Toktik | Hi all |
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| 20:48.00 | Toktik | I'm 17 years old, can I participate in GSC? |
| 20:48.04 | Toktik | as a student |
| 20:48.16 | Catfish_Man | have you been accepted to a college or university? |
| 20:48.25 | Toktik | yes University |
| 20:48.25 | Ori_B | Toktik: not unless you turn 18 before SoC starts |
| 20:48.26 | Ori_B | sorry |
| 20:48.32 | ajuonline | 18 years as on 20th April 2009. |
| 20:48.35 | Toktik | I'm enginner :) |
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| 20:48.51 | Toktik | :( my birthday on 19 September :( |
| 20:50.02 | Toktik | Catfish_Man: but i'm accepted to university :) |
| 20:50.02 | hypa7ia | Toktik: next year then - all the more time to get involved with projects :) |
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| 20:50.02 | Ori_B | Toktik: well, you can always do it next year. |
| 20:50.04 | Toktik | ok :) thank you for information :) |
| 20:50.17 | schumaml | ~age |
| 20:50.18 | ibot | age is probably You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 20:50.29 | schumaml | ah, it is already there |
| 20:50.59 | Toktik | ;) |
| 20:51.39 | schumaml | a "~flood <nick> - send <nick> all your factoids" command could be useful ;) |
| 20:52.32 | lh | ajuonline: yes dear, of course |
| 20:52.37 | lh | araujo: thank you my friend |
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| 20:52.49 | lh | ignores irc, focuses on prepping for call |
| 20:52.52 | Ori_B | anothy_x: well, it looks like I made it to Bell Labs :) |
| 20:53.14 | araujo | lh, :) |
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| 21:00.36 | brlcad | lh: have a flyer ready for http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers for BRL-CAD at http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Flyers#2009 |
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| 21:02.22 | garbus | Hi all :) |
| 21:02.30 | ajuonline | should make for Sahana as well |
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| 21:05.11 | omniter | wouldn't it suck if you turn 18 on April 19th? =\ |
| 21:05.13 | omniter | i mean |
| 21:05.15 | omniter | 21st |
| 21:07.33 | ajuonline | omniter: no. |
| 21:07.36 | Ivanovic | omniter: uhm, you have to be in some "higher education" anyway |
| 21:07.48 | Ivanovic | most people just turning 18 don't fullfil this requirement |
| 21:09.05 | ojwb | would be quite happy to be turning 18 then |
| 21:09.12 | ojwb | wouldn't feel so old and broken then |
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| 21:20.15 | omniter | Oh right... I didn't think about that... |
| 21:20.20 | omniter | =D |
| 21:20.53 | merlijn | and for high schoolers there's always the google highly open participation program :) |
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| 21:25.35 | omniter | highly open participation program? =\ |
| 21:26.06 | lh | omniter: more news later this year, for now see http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/ |
| 21:26.17 | scorche | !ghop |
| 21:26.17 | socinfo | "ghop" is The Google Highly Open Participation Contest: http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 21:26.24 | lh | scorche: danke! |
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| 21:26.42 | omniter | hmm |
| 21:27.59 | mhutch | is it just me, or is the web app pretty broken? |
| 21:28.13 | lh | mhutch: broken how? |
| 21:28.43 | mhutch | lh: admins can't see my mentor application |
| 21:29.01 | mhutch | and they can't invite me because the request exists |
| 21:29.14 | scorche | they have been working for me |
| 21:29.21 | scorche | shrugs |
| 21:29.22 | borja | mhutch: did you get a notification? |
| 21:29.22 | mhutch | and i can't withdraw it -- when i click on it I get "Please sign out and sign in again as a Site Developer to view this page." |
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| 21:29.55 | borja | mhutch: when you apply to become a mentor, when the admin approves your request, that doesn't make you a mentor quite yet... you'll get an invitation to become a mentor through the notifications |
| 21:30.04 | borja | Several of our mentors were confused by that |
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| 21:30.30 | mhutch | borja: what should the admins be seeing? |
| 21:30.55 | borja | mhutch: does your request show up under "incoming requests" or "outstanding invites"? |
| 21:31.12 | borja | mhutch: (in the "List Requests and Invites" page) |
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| 21:32.22 | mhutch | just a mo, asking one of our admins for more details |
| 21:32.32 | borja | no prob |
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| 21:33.13 | penyaskito | hi folks! |
| 21:33.45 | penyaskito | lh, have you got a minute? |
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| 21:34.33 | mhutch | lh, borja: sorry, alarm over. the admin didn't know here to looks for requests |
| 21:34.46 | mhutch | though he did get an HTTP 500 approving it |
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| 21:37.28 | lh | penyaskito: in a sec |
| 21:37.45 | penyaskito | lh thanks :-) |
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| 21:37.51 | lh | mhutch: that's odd. one sec. i will try to help but for now please make sure you file an issue |
| 21:37.54 | lh | !bugs |
| 21:37.55 | socinfo | "bugs" is Melange bugs are tracked at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
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| 21:38.42 | lh | !userguide |
| 21:38.42 | socinfo | "userguide" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide |
| 21:38.53 | lh | penyaskito: go for it |
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| 21:39.30 | lh | suggestions for how to improve the user guide to make this process less confusing are most welcome |
| 21:39.38 | lh | mhutch, borja - ideas? |
| 21:39.39 | penyaskito | lh: just wanted to know if there is any reason for my organization (argouml) has not been approved for this year SoC, of course beside of that I'm sure that you got a lot of great proposals ;) |
| 21:39.59 | penyaskito | is not ranting, just wanted to improve our app next year ;-) |
| 21:40.11 | lh | lots of great proposals, the ideas list was a little thin, especially for a returning org. |
| 21:40.27 | mhutch | lh: I've seen odd "There is no such active entity." messages a few times too :( |
| 21:40.27 | lh | this was one of those we talked about it and talked about it and felt awful about it and finally decided not to accept. |
| 21:40.39 | lh | mhutch: definitely file a bug on those |
| 21:41.07 | lh | penyaskito: there were a few folks that we really respect that had been with us before that we turned down this year, it was not an easy time of reviewing. |
| 21:41.15 | lh | best batch of apps i have ever seen, hands down. |
| 21:41.28 | penyaskito | lh: Thanks for the feedback. Is fine to quote you on our dev mailing list? |
| 21:41.42 | mhutch | lh: will do |
| 21:41.54 | lh | penyaskito: yes please do so. |
| 21:42.08 | lh | mhutch: thank you very much. |
| 21:42.10 | penyaskito | lh Thanks again :-) |
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| 21:43.10 | Chani | anyone from SFU in here? |
| 21:43.30 | anirudhsharma | sfu ? |
| 21:43.35 | Chani | I just emailed the students-list, but I guess I should check for new students too |
| 21:43.41 | Chani | simon fraser uni |
| 21:43.46 | merlijn | !anyone |
| 21:43.46 | koryk | where is that? |
| 21:43.46 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 21:44.06 | lh | !advice |
| 21:44.06 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
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| 21:44.11 | Chani | iot's not an organization |
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| 21:44.58 | Chani | isn't really expecting to find anyone, though. the school's hardly advertised soc at all this year afaik |
| 21:45.19 | Chani | and them wanting to do a story on it *now* is a bit late :/ |
| 21:45.31 | Chani | by the time that's done we'll probably be at the deadline |
| 21:45.52 | omniter | my school hasn't advertised soc at all. shame. |
| 21:45.56 | lh | Chani: why late? apps dont open til monday. is there an eng/comp sci/etc department mailing list that you could send a note to. |
| 21:46.09 | Chani | was preoccupied and jack isn't doing soc any more... |
| 21:46.10 | lh | my dear friends, please do not wait for your schools to advertise. DIY! |
| 21:46.18 | l0nwlf_ | I want to view last years selected applications , is there a way out ? |
| 21:46.20 | ajuonline | any l10n experts in here? |
| 21:46.32 | Chani | lh: I'm assuming that this story will take time to write, and I';m not even sure what they plan to do with it once it's written |
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| 21:47.00 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: code.google.com/soc/2008/orgname/about.html |
| 21:47.05 | Chani | maybe I should forward the email from the women's list to hte general cs list. I wonder if I have access |
| 21:47.09 | lh | Chani: so story is suboptimal. mailing lists? campus chapter of the ACM or IEEE have an announcement board or list? be creative. :) |
| 21:47.14 | lh | Chani: ++ |
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| 21:47.29 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: and then click on individual students apps. but I know they are just abstarcts. so Google is your friend. |
| 21:47.35 | lh | realizes she has not sent note to linuxchix lists, hangs head in eternal shame |
| 21:47.40 | Chani | really doesn't like this communication thing :) |
| 21:47.41 | l0nwlf_ | ajuonline: the requested URL /soc/2008/orgname/about.html was not found on this server. |
| 21:47.53 | Ori_B | really should do some SoC promotions :) |
| 21:47.58 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: orgname is your favorite organisation |
| 21:48.14 | Ori_B | although most of my connections are with engineering physics, I do have some comp courses. |
| 21:48.17 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: better goto code.google.com/soc/2008/ |
| 21:48.19 | Jeff_S | lh: we've got a story written up in the OSU open source newsletter at least... maybe that'll find it's way to some non-LUG types (since they all already know about GSoC) |
| 21:48.33 | lh | Jeff_S: link? i'll tweet it |
| 21:48.40 | l0nwlf_ | ajuonline: these are abstracts , i was hoping if i can get a look at selected proposal ? |
| 21:48.44 | Jeff_S | lh: sec, I don't know if it's on the website yet |
| 21:48.51 | lh | when it is let me know please |
| 21:48.51 | borja | lh: for what it's worth, the group that hosted me at DePaul university was the ACM-W. They're more active than the 'regular' ACM chapter there. So, lots of geekgirls at that presentation. |
| 21:49.07 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: google is your friend. if you want to take a look at mine, i can surely find you a link. |
| 21:49.20 | dhaun | l0nwlf_: the full proposals where never available, only the abstracts |
| 21:49.30 | omniter | yepp, i've been telling my friends about soc in my school's place, lol. |
| 21:49.33 | lh | borja: woot! |
| 21:49.50 | dhaun | l0nwlf_: unless the student had them published somewhere else, too, e.g. Google Docs |
| 21:49.55 | ajuonline | dhaun: yes, but some./many like me made it public. |
| 21:50.11 | ajuonline | thats what I feel is being |
| 21:50.14 | ajuonline | open :) |
| 21:50.38 | l0nwlf_ | ajuonline: yeah , i was looking for such proposals , it could give us better idea as to how successful proposals are |
| 21:51.21 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: nope. wrong. look at the organisations template. they have it mentioned there, what they are looking for in the proposal. |
| 21:52.26 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: i recommend coming up with your own stuff :) |
| 21:52.27 | l0nwlf_ | who select the proposals.....google ? What's the role of organiations? |
| 21:52.49 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: its in the faq. |
| 21:52.51 | l0nwlf_ | s/organiations/organiaations |
| 21:52.57 | lh | !faq |
| 21:52.57 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 21:53.00 | l0nwlf_ | ajuonline: ok , thanks |
| 21:53.07 | lh | love the faq, read the faq, feel the faq. |
| 21:53.08 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: student selection |
| 21:53.16 | Kraln | lh: did you get an email from dave (devkitpro? ) |
| 21:53.21 | ajuonline | besides, reading is healthy for your eyes. |
| 21:53.53 | lh | Kraln: yes |
| 21:54.03 | l0nwlf_ | ohh , and i thought only Vitamin A and girls are good for healthy eyes :P |
| 21:54.07 | Kraln | kay. I just wanted to make sure he sent it =) |
| 21:54.08 | Kraln | thanks |
| 21:54.25 | lh | !advice |
| 21:54.26 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 21:54.30 | lh | Kraln: no |
| 21:54.31 | lh | np |
| 21:54.50 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: lame :P but look at the above link ^ |
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| 21:56.52 | Jeff_S | lh: http://osel.oregonstate.edu/files/osel_newsletter_200903.pdf |
| 21:57.11 | lh | Jeff_S: on it |
| 21:57.17 | Jeff_S | lh: dberkholz is featured in the article as well :) |
| 21:57.42 | lh | Jeff_S: rock |
| 21:58.00 | r0bby | lh: you rock |
| 21:58.06 | r0bby | discrete math: you suck |
| 21:58.17 | r0bby | that is all. kthxbai |
| 21:58.26 | penyaskito | lh: offtopics: 1) Do you have a twitter account? 2) Were/are you a member of IEEE WIE? |
| 21:58.27 | r0bby | phew i feel better |
| 21:58.31 | r0bby | yes she does :) |
| 21:58.39 | r0bby | and number 2 i do not know :) |
| 21:58.41 | ajuonline | penyaskito: twitter.com/lhawthorn |
| 21:58.50 | r0bby | ajuonline: BAD! BAD BAD! |
| 21:58.52 | penyaskito | thanks ajuonline, r0bby |
| 21:58.58 | r0bby | http://twitter.com/robbyoconnor |
| 21:59.26 | Landon | still has $400 on his card |
| 21:59.32 | Landon | deadline for that is the 28th? |
| 21:59.42 | ajuonline | Landon: yes, fast. order me a eee pc |
| 21:59.49 | Landon | hehe |
| 21:59.55 | Landon | ordering some dev kit |
| 22:00.11 | r0bby | drained his card |
| 22:00.17 | zooko | A student asked me for general advice about hackerdom this morning (boy did that make me feel good!) and I mentioned barcamp: |
| 22:00.19 | r0bby | bought myself and my dad starbucks :)( |
| 22:00.29 | zooko | http://zooko.com/log-2008.html#d2008-10-19-BarCamp_and_the_Secret_Political_Agenda |
| 22:00.32 | lh | penyaskito: i tweet under lhawthorn and dent under lh, no not a member |
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| 22:00.40 | r0bby | the ATM didn't wanna give something thsat wasn't able to be given in 10s or 20s |
| 22:00.49 | Landon | hehe |
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| 22:01.04 | Landon | r0bby: row of ATMs at the student union |
| 22:01.09 | lh | needs to write up documentation on testing student features of the app pronto |
| 22:01.11 | Landon | last time I went I took out $700, hopping from one to the next |
| 22:01.15 | Landon | I felt 1337 |
| 22:01.34 | Jeff_S | lh: awesome, thanks |
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| 22:03.57 | romullo | is away: testing away message :) |
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| 22:04.41 | romullo | is away: testing away message :) |
| 22:04.47 | lh | Jeff_S: thank you |
| 22:04.48 | ajuonline | l0nwlf_: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dsjhvbz_14d5mv7jft |
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| 22:06.05 | l0nwlf_ | ajuonline: thanks ! |
| 22:08.01 | r0bby | Landon: haha |
| 22:08.09 | r0bby | I wanted to walk out w/ 2000 |
| 22:08.12 | r0bby | I was excited! |
| 22:08.20 | r0bby | 2000 in $20s |
| 22:08.27 | r0bby | I woulda felt rich |
| 22:08.53 | Mkop2 | this is how they pay you for gsoc? with an atm card? |
| 22:09.05 | r0bby | the way they did last year |
| 22:09.11 | r0bby | we didnt even have our names on them |
| 22:09.19 | Landon | Mkop2: a gift card arrangement |
| 22:09.24 | r0bby | this year you will (or so i heard) |
| 22:09.29 | r0bby | it was quite interesting |
| 22:09.46 | sid0 | oh hey, the card's expiring on the 31st |
| 22:09.52 | Landon | 28th* |
| 22:09.57 | sid0 | ah |
| 22:10.00 | Landon | I just checked my email |
| 22:10.08 | sid0 | does anyone know of a good way to spend $2.39 ? :P |
| 22:10.14 | Landon | heh |
| 22:10.26 | Landon | a lot of convenience stores wont even bother with that low of an amount |
| 22:10.41 | sid0 | thing is, no one here's gonna take a $2 transaction on a credit card |
| 22:10.43 | sid0 | yeah |
| 22:10.58 | Landon | what about those $1/dvd machines? |
| 22:11.13 | Landon | thats 2 dvds + tax! :p |
| 22:11.17 | sid0 | never heard of those, doubt they exist in india |
| 22:11.27 | Toktik | who know how to work $2.39? :D |
| 22:11.28 | sid0 | was thinking of something online |
| 22:11.42 | r0bby | sid0: starbucks |
| 22:12.00 | r0bby | buy coffee |
| 22:12.11 | Toktik | it's joke ofcourse :D |
| 22:12.13 | sid0 | r0bby: I'd spend more than that getting to a starbucks. nearest one's 500 km away :) |
| 22:12.15 | r0bby | I was gonna forefeit $6.00 and some change |
| 22:12.25 | r0bby | sid0: fail |
| 22:12.42 | r0bby | nearest starbucks for me is a barnes and noble and they just serve starbucks coffee drinks |
| 22:13.04 | sid0 | bleh, so it'll probably just be forfeited |
| 22:13.20 | sid0 | wonders if he can coax an ATM into giving Rs 100 |
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| 22:15.44 | WinterMute | sid0, could always just donate it to an open source project you like |
| 22:16.07 | sid0 | ah |
| 22:16.09 | WinterMute | doesn't seem like much I know but it does all add up if enough people do it |
| 22:16.19 | sid0 | that's a good idea |
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| 22:17.18 | ajuonline | sleeps |
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| 22:18.02 | sid0 | WinterMute: thanks! |
| 22:18.34 | WinterMute | np |
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| 22:28.37 | Tobias | I have a question to the " Accept invite for Mentor" form. The tool tip states: "lower ascii characters only" - but it seems to be a bit silly to write the name with an initial small (rather than capital) letter |
| 22:29.02 | straydawg | Tobias: it means ASCII only.. 7-bit |
| 22:29.15 | straydawg | (right, everyone?) |
| 22:29.18 | jhil | yes |
| 22:29.21 | straydawg | phew |
| 22:29.27 | straydawg | Tobias: so uppercase is OK |
| 22:29.51 | Tobias | Ok, I miss understood "lower" thinking of case and not bytes ;-) thanks! |
| 22:30.02 | Tobias | s/miss understood/misunderstood/ |
| 22:30.35 | jhil | oh wow, a bot that does the s///, neat |
| 22:31.22 | Raim | as an organization admin, do I have to invite myself as a mentor? |
| 22:32.35 | dhaun | Raim: yes |
| 22:32.59 | Raim | dhaun: ok, thanks |
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| 22:34.17 | Raim | uh, which means I need to fill in the contact information yet another time? why isn't that linked with the link id... |
| 22:35.14 | dhaun | probably worth a bug report, if there isn't one already ... |
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| 22:38.06 | Raim | hm, yes, there is already one discussing this |
| 22:38.42 | arun_ | straydawg, you were right. |
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| 22:39.08 | arun_ | (about the lower ascii thing) |
| 22:39.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi there. |
| 22:40.51 | straydawg | arun_: phew |
| 22:41.40 | straydawg | arun_: hi btw :) |
| 22:41.56 | arun_ | straydawg, howdy. |
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| 22:44.07 | *** topic/#gsoc by lh -> Mentors/Org Admins Read This: http://tinyurl.com/d4zuqb - Read the GSoC 2009 Site User's Guide http://tinyurl.com/gsoc09userguide - Updated Flyers & Program Presentations now the Wiki - Upload your screen casts, etc. to our YouTube Channel (details on mentors and students list) - Help Us Test the GSoC 2009 site: http://tinyurl.com/melangetesters - This channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc |
| 22:44.11 | arun_ | Lennie|Gone, i'm gsocing in Holland, but as a mentor. (just saw your question when i was catching up in scrollback.) |
| 22:44.14 | lh | amit8-88: yt? |
| 22:44.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | tkamppeter, any chance Linux Foundation would post some more kernel-related ideas soon? I'd really like to continue hacking the kernel this GSoC. :) |
| 22:45.14 | lh | ajuonline: yt ajay? |
| 22:45.26 | arun_ | Eduard_Munteanu, you could propose an idea to them. |
| 22:46.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | arun_, well, you have a point. I'm currently clueless, though I'll think of something. |
| 22:46.11 | tkamppeter | Eduard_Munteanu: I am not a kernel developer by myself, so I cannot post such ideas. I did several postings on kernel-related mailing lists asking them to post ideas, but nothing came up. |
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| 22:46.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | tkamppeter, thanks. By chance, do you know if Pekka is mentoring this year? |
| 22:46.57 | tkamppeter | I have heard that also the Portland State University is hosting kernel projects. Perhaps you find something there. |
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| 22:47.13 | Eduard_Munteanu | tkamppeter, thanks for the tip. |
| 22:48.02 | tkamppeter | Eduard_Munteanu: Pekka seems to not mentor this year, I did not get any answer from him when I asked for posting kernel projects. |
| 22:48.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | tkamppeter, okay, I'll contact him directly and see if he's available for a ride :) |
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| 22:49.04 | Wombert | hi :) |
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| 22:49.11 | Wombert | lh: you there? I have a question |
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| 22:50.10 | r0bby | who the heck is durinbot |
| 22:50.20 | r0bby | it messaged me |
| 22:50.22 | scorche | durin42's bot |
| 22:50.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | tkamppeter, in any case, working for LF was great last year, and I'm still contributing. |
| 22:50.26 | scorche | we know |
| 22:50.33 | r0bby | could it like not message me? |
| 22:50.49 | blast007 | r0bby: it only does it once |
| 22:50.50 | scorche | it only does it once |
| 22:50.53 | r0bby | I've been here for well over a year :( |
| 22:51.02 | lh | Wombert: sup? |
| 22:51.07 | r0bby | it SHOULD know me by now :) |
| 22:51.09 | Wombert | hi |
| 22:51.25 | scorche | r0bby: the database was wiped for the new year.. |
| 22:51.30 | Wombert | lh: is privmsg ok? |
| 22:51.40 | r0bby | ugh |
| 22:52.31 | lh | Wombert: regarding? |
| 22:52.44 | lh | and yes, but keep in mind i need to get tester documentation written asap for melange for student applicaitons |
| 22:53.00 | Wombert | well then lets do this here :) |
| 22:53.09 | Wombert | I've had this argument with a colleague |
| 22:53.30 | Wombert | since Agavi was not accepted into gsoc, a case of "we just can't accept everyone" as you put it, seemed like application etc was okay |
| 22:53.36 | lh | right |
| 22:53.52 | Wombert | and he essentially said "well, there is agavi, blah, it has a website now, all good, but there is no *company* website" |
| 22:54.10 | lh | Wombert: i dont mean to be disrespectful, but can you speed this up a bit? |
| 22:54.21 | Wombert | because we're this small development shop and driving a lot of the project's development |
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| 22:54.33 | Wombert | but really, such a thing wouldn't matter, would it? |
| 22:54.44 | lh | no it really doesn't matter. |
| 22:55.04 | Wombert | my question really is (just out of curiosity), do you even *look* at companys behind open source projects (if there are any) |
| 22:55.15 | lh | yes we do |
| 22:55.35 | lh | and in general this year did not accept projects where the develoeprs are largely paid by a company |
| 22:55.38 | lh | there are exceptions |
| 22:55.41 | lh | but largely that's what we did |
| 22:55.47 | Wombert | ah |
| 22:55.57 | Wombert | quite useful info |
| 22:55.58 | Wombert | :) |
| 22:56.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | I believe students are more likely to stick around after GSoC. I believe that's why. |
| 22:56.16 | Wombert | so that would have been a reason to reject us then |
| 22:56.25 | Wombert | if we had had a proper website and bleh and explanations |
| 22:56.34 | lh | Wombert: that wont necessarily be the same every year, but in cases where we were trying to cut back that became a factor |
| 22:56.37 | Wombert | which is nothing I want to do anyway because it's still open source, and not a commercial project |
| 22:56.48 | Wombert | yeah I guess I understand |
| 22:56.51 | lh | i am so confused by this dialogue at this point. |
| 22:57.16 | Wombert | I didn't mean to confuse you, lh :p |
| 22:57.19 | lh | Wombert: we should address this later. i cannot give this the attention it deserves right now, which is fair to neither one of us. |
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| 22:57.46 | Wombert | lh: nah no worries; there's nothing I need besides that bits of info. I really just wanted to know if it made a difference ;) |
| 22:57.54 | lh | Wombert: ok, cool. |
| 22:58.04 | Wombert | so, thanks! |
| 22:58.10 | lh | Wombert: np |
| 22:58.11 | Wombert | and sorry for the interruption ;) |
| 22:58.15 | lh | Wombert: np |
| 22:58.21 | Landon | !orgbycat |
| 22:58.22 | socinfo | "orgbycat" is http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm |
| 22:58.32 | lh | Landon: please update |
| 22:59.03 | Landon | >.> |
| 22:59.09 | dhaun | !orgsbycat |
| 22:59.09 | socinfo | "orgsbycat" is 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 22:59.12 | Landon | aha |
| 22:59.16 | Landon | thats the list I was looking for |
| 22:59.17 | Landon | :) |
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| 22:59.26 | lh | can you fix the other one please landon? |
| 22:59.41 | scorche | !forget orgbycat |
| 22:59.42 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:59.54 | scorche | !learn orgbycat as 2009 orgs list by category: http://delicious.com/gsoc2009/bundle:Categories (note: work in progress) |
| 22:59.54 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 22:59.57 | lh | scorche: danke |
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| 23:05.30 | rkatiyar | hate deadlines :( |
| 23:08.33 | the93D | rkatiyar: without deadlines, nothing will ever be done :P |
| 23:08.47 | the93D | but yeah, the deadline sucks. I'm rather busy with university work. |
| 23:10.35 | l0nwlf_ | the93D: true ; my mids are going on |
| 23:10.54 | l0nwlf_ | i can't give much time to gsoc :( ..it sucks |
| 23:11.00 | Lennie | hi |
| 23:11.39 | the93D | I was wondering if gsoc is manageable if I take 2 courses in the summer |
| 23:12.02 | the93D | l0nwlf_ I haven't started my midterm yet, but my physics course demands a lot >_> |
| 23:12.50 | l0nwlf_ | we had 2 more papers , after that i can concentrate atleast on projects |
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| 23:18.00 | rkatiyar | the9a3D: problem with me is that i start after the deadline |
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| 23:18.44 | l0nwlf_ | rkatiyar: typical indian attitude :P |
| 23:19.21 | rkatiyar | i think thats attitude in engineering in general |
| 23:19.25 | rkatiyar | all over the world :) |
| 23:19.32 | rkatiyar | who agrees ? |
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| 23:25.59 | dberkholz | notices a highlight |
| 23:27.42 | harlan | lh: do you know if anybody at google is applying for any "stimulus money" grants? |
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| 23:31.15 | lh | harlan: not that i know of |
| 23:33.30 | harlan | 'k, thanks - I was curious. |
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| 23:43.20 | lh | toni_marie: you going to be mentoring for joomla! ? |
| 23:44.06 | ThomasWaldmann | lh: google could give all employees a Tesla Roadster to support the car industry :)) |
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| 23:45.07 | Landon | is giving an eye to melange for this summer |
| 23:46.46 | dhart | anyone know where to edit org details on socghop.appspot.com? maybe I'm overlooking the correct place... |
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| 23:46.52 | Lennie | dhart |
| 23:46.55 | Lennie | are you an org admin? |
| 23:47.03 | dhart | yes |
| 23:47.14 | Lennie | it should say "edit organization profile" on your sidebar |
| 23:48.20 | dhart | Lennie: that the type of link I expected to see, but I'm not seeing it. |
| 23:48.46 | ThomasWaldmann | dhart: if it doesn't, look at your notifications, maybe you have to accept the admin role |
| 23:48.51 | SRabbelier | dhart: what's your link_id? |
| 23:50.32 | dhart | yes, I checked there too. when clicking on the link (again) from the 'application accepted' notification, the app reports 'There is no application that would allow you to visit this page' |
| 23:50.35 | koryk | !advice |
| 23:50.35 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 23:51.02 | Lennie | dhart could you give us your link id so we can check :D? |
| 23:51.18 | dhart | Lennie, link_id is dhart, org link_id is opencog |
| 23:51.20 | Lennie | are you seeing any links about your organization in the sidebar at all? |
| 23:51.36 | dhart | no, only 'User' and 'Programs' |
| 23:51.47 | Lennie | k |
| 23:51.47 | Lennie | strange |
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| 23:52.29 | Lennie | hmm |
| 23:52.34 | Lennie | your request has not been completed yet |
| 23:53.20 | Lennie | http://socghop.appspot.com/user/requests |
| 23:53.30 | dhart | I thought I might see an invite for the admin role in notificaitons |
| 23:53.39 | Lennie | you should have had that |
| 23:54.02 | Lennie | visit that page |
| 23:54.04 | Lennie | do you see the reuqest? |
| 23:54.46 | dhart | interesting, my role is listed as 'Organization Admin' on that page, but http://socghop.appspot.com/user/roles reports 'You don't have any Roles in Google Open Source Programs' |
| 23:55.18 | dhart | ah, I'm doing that now |
| 23:55.39 | dhart | sorry for my confusion! |
| 23:55.41 | Lennie | hmm |
| 23:56.07 | Lennie | could you try to explain what confused you :) |
| 23:56.12 | Lennie | so we might be able to improve it |
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