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| 00:45.32 | webchick | lh, aw. thanks for the well-wishes on Twitter. :) I might try your recipe! sounds awesome. :D |
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| 00:52.46 | spectie | bona nit a tots! |
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| 00:53.58 | thiago_home | catalan? |
| 00:54.05 | spectie | yep ;) |
| 00:54.08 | homunq | saq'ak'bal, spectie. |
| 00:54.32 | homunq | (that's bastard kaqchikel.) |
| 00:54.52 | spectie | :) |
| 00:54.57 | homunq | (I know good morning properly...) |
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| 00:59.07 | homunq | realizes he just wished spectie a bright afternoon. Close enough. |
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| 01:08.45 | Huy | hi homunq, I remember you, are you from OLPC ? |
| 01:09.01 | homunq | not exactly |
| 01:09.10 | homunq | I'm with Sugarlabs |
| 01:09.17 | homunq | last year, they were the same |
| 01:09.19 | Huy | ah, ok |
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| 01:09.24 | homunq | this year, two independent orgs |
| 01:09.36 | homunq | but still friends - it's not a "fork". |
| 01:10.48 | homunq | huy: if you want to apply again this year, and if both orgs get in, you are welcome to apply to both |
| 01:11.40 | homunq | IIRC your app was a little more Sugarlabs-y, but I do not want to tell anyone not to apply to OLPC |
| 01:12.26 | homunq | For all students in the channel, just to clear the air: |
| 01:12.42 | Huy | thanks, but I already have org to participate this year |
| 01:13.04 | homunq | -OLPC has NOT switched to windows and is still making laptops |
| 01:13.17 | Huy | Oh, that's great |
| 01:14.04 | homunq | -Sugar is still the only environment/platform designed from the ground up for education, and is used regularly by nearly 1,000,000 students. |
| 01:14.33 | Landon | *pinky to mouth* bwahahaha! |
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| 01:15.52 | homunq | -Since it's a whole platform, and an ambitious (and working!) redesign of a lot of things you're used to (file manager, security, collaboration, UI) we have all kinds of tasks up and down the stack. |
| 01:17.01 | homunq | however, I believe our server is down at the moment - the latest kernel from <distro censored> doesn't even boot on the machine - so I can't point to our ideas list. |
| 01:17.46 | homunq | Anyway, when we get back online (tomorrow for sure) please check us out. |
| 01:19.05 | WinterMute | huhu, that's a bit of a punfest on the whole sugar theme, isn't it? |
| 01:19.55 | WinterMute | do you have a Sugar Office Suite? ( ba dum .... tsscchhh ) |
| 01:20.01 | WinterMute | sorry |
| 01:20.07 | WinterMute | gets his coat |
| 01:21.39 | Huy | bang WinterMute |
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| 01:24.13 | summatusmentis | homunq: not _switched_, but windows is offered, yes? |
| 01:24.26 | summatusmentis | obviously sugar is still an option as well |
| 01:24.44 | homunq | summatusmentis: OLPC does not offer Windows, but Microsoft does. |
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| 01:25.36 | summatusmentis | obviously MS offers windows :-P I guess what I'm asking, countries can order the OLPC with windows on it? Does that have to go through MS? |
| 01:25.46 | homunq | There are I think few hundreds, at most a couple thousand, of windows XO's in the field. As opposed to >600,000 Sugar ones. |
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| 01:26.06 | summatusmentis | sure, I'm not trying to troll, just curious |
| 01:26.24 | homunq | no problem |
| 01:27.17 | homunq | I do not know the exact purchasing chain for getting windows XOs. But NO xo can even run windows out-of-the-box, since it doesn't even fit on the internal flash |
| 01:27.31 | summatusmentis | ah, ok |
| 01:27.43 | homunq | you need I think special firmware (ships with it) and an sd card (separate) |
| 01:28.06 | homunq | the special firmware is a small mod that still runs sugar just fine. |
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| 01:28.46 | summatusmentis | the special firmware is what allows other distros to run, right? |
| 01:29.28 | homunq | other distros run on the normal firmware |
| 01:29.31 | homunq | but DOS doesn't |
| 01:29.35 | summatusmentis | ah, ok |
| 01:31.14 | summatusmentis | and Sugar Labs did apply this year? |
| 01:31.20 | homunq | yep |
| 01:31.43 | homunq | so did OLPC |
| 01:32.03 | summatusmentis | oh. OLPC has more... hardware related projects? |
| 01:32.08 | homunq | I'd be glad if both got in, satisfied if either one did |
| 01:32.20 | homunq | summatusmentis: that, and the school server |
| 01:32.33 | homunq | sugarlabs hasn't taken over that code (yet?) |
| 01:32.56 | summatusmentis | ooh, school server |
| 01:32.57 | homunq | school server has a bunch of stuff, most important of which is Moodle. |
| 01:34.07 | homunq | but Moodle was designed for universities, it needs some work to be better for primary school. |
| 01:34.17 | homunq | s/some/lots of |
| 01:34.27 | homunq | s/some/lots of/ |
| 01:34.32 | homunq | heh |
| 01:34.37 | homunq | not exactly |
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| 01:36.07 | summatusmentis | it only goes back one line :) |
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| 01:57.16 | Ori_B | hm, anyone here know much about DSP? |
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| 01:58.36 | Huy | still loving youuu |
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| 02:00.30 | Lorenzu | hi ... |
| 02:00.32 | Lorenzu | alll |
| 02:00.36 | summatusmentis | hi Lorenzu |
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| 02:00.55 | Lorenzu | hey do u think a newbie can participate in GSOC |
| 02:01.13 | summatusmentis | depends on how you define newbie |
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| 02:01.46 | homunq | If you know how to program, have a good idea, and find a project that's open to it, sure |
| 02:02.15 | Lorenzu | LIke this , I like programming , but i do not have a proper programming experience developing programs . I have spend some time learning python now ... |
| 02:02.28 | homunq | if you are not at least a intermediate or better programmer, no. |
| 02:02.53 | Lorenzu | I did find a interesting project ... also what if i have an idea ...? |
| 02:03.05 | Huy | Lorenzu: join SugarLabs |
| 02:03.18 | homunq | Huy: thanks! :) |
| 02:03.19 | Lorenzu | sugarlabs ? |
| 02:03.56 | homunq | sugarlabs.org |
| 02:04.02 | Huy | yes, and homunq can help you a lots on your proposal |
| 02:04.04 | homunq | (yay our server is back up) |
| 02:04.05 | Ori_B | Lorenzu: more or less, if you think you have a good chance of getting the project done, apply for it. |
| 02:04.15 | Lorenzu | ok.... |
| 02:04.25 | Lorenzu | i will |
| 02:04.31 | Ori_B | don't worry about how much experience you have; everyone applying is a student; that means their job is to learn :) |
| 02:04.33 | Lorenzu | thanks all |
| 02:04.53 | homunq | or if you prefer, www.sugarlabs.org <-- the static site, the other one's a wiki |
| 02:05.30 | Lorenzu | yes that was my goal ... to get some hands on expe .. since i work in a bank ... i newver get to do real programming .... |
| 02:06.01 | homunq | Lorenzu: you work in a bank, but you are still legally a student, right? |
| 02:06.09 | Lorenzu | yes .. |
| 02:06.18 | homunq | s/legally/formally/ |
| 02:06.29 | Lorenzu | i am doing a part time Bachelor's |
| 02:06.34 | homunq | just wanted to use the bot correctly for once... |
| 02:07.04 | Lorenzu | i have heard abt suger labs ... onelaptop per child program |
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| 02:19.00 | Kraln | what's the word? |
| 02:19.23 | summatusmentis | which word? |
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| 02:19.43 | summatusmentis | I'm gonna go with 'intergalactic' |
| 02:20.33 | Kraln | s/intergalactic/fragilistic/ |
| 02:20.47 | Kraln | oh, boo. |
| 02:21.25 | summatusmentis | :-D |
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| 06:06.29 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
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| 06:07.25 | ecin | Anyone working with Ruby? |
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| 06:20.00 | ojwb | many people are... |
| 06:20.55 | ojwb | if you're looking for orgs likely to have ruby projects, then you can look at the list of orgs by language from last year - there will be a similar list compiled this year I imagine once the accepted orgs are announced |
| 06:21.00 | ojwb | !orgbylang |
| 06:21.01 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
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| 06:25.35 | mohi13 | hello everyone |
| 06:26.45 | easwar | hello mohi13 |
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| 07:06.45 | anirudh | what's up guys :) shree you there ? |
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| 07:11.06 | anirudh | anyone from Fedora in here ? |
| 07:15.43 | skbohra | me |
| 07:15.52 | skbohra | i use fedora |
| 07:15.55 | skbohra | ;) |
| 07:16.45 | ajuonline | anirudh: better chances to find them on #fedora |
| 07:16.59 | skbohra | well said |
| 07:17.11 | anirudh | yo yo , i'll divert :) |
| 07:17.19 | lut4rp | there's also #fedora-in |
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| 07:18.19 | sandyleo26 | Hello Everybody! |
| 07:19.07 | sandyleo26 | It's so quiet here or i have connection problem... |
| 07:19.16 | skbohra | depends |
| 07:20.26 | sandyleo26 | Finally. I always attribute communication problem to the poor local network... |
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| 07:20.48 | sandyleo26 | if you know what i mean... |
| 07:21.30 | skbohra | congrats then |
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| 07:22.15 | sandyleo26 | 3x. |
| 07:22.57 | sandyleo26 | so everyone here just waiting for the release of the list of mentors on 18th |
| 07:23.33 | anirudh | how to get a firefly cam working on tbeta linux |
| 07:24.20 | sandyleo26 | have you tried to google it |
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| 07:24.50 | gaveen | anirudh, this is not the correct channel. Besides you were just told in #fedora to try later :) |
| 07:25.13 | Kamran | hi |
| 07:25.39 | Huy | hi |
| 07:25.41 | anirudh | yep :) am using fedora alredy, and tbeta runs well on it with the microsoft lifecam. just that the Firefly cam is creating a little fuss |
| 07:25.49 | anirudh | gaveen :D okay |
| 07:26.14 | anirudh | failed almost everywhere, that's why am here . |
| 07:26.23 | skbohra | anirudh: i told you earlier |
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| 07:27.02 | Kamran | slaps Kamran around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:29.04 | ajuonline | hi gaveen |
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| 07:30.27 | gaveen | ajuonline, hi |
| 07:30.29 | mohangupta13 | is general what is the qualification of students applying for gsoc? |
| 07:31.11 | ajuonline | mohangupta13: 18 years above as on April 20, 2009. and enrolled into some university program. |
| 07:32.42 | mohangupta13 | i went through a lot of pages on the web and found that more often than not students selected for gsoc had quite a bit of experience in open source devlopment ,but i have none , how much can i fancy my chance? |
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| 07:34.03 | mohangupta13 | i went |
| 07:34.13 | mohangupta13 | i |
| 07:34.39 | gaveen | mohangupta13, as much as you really want it. All you need is development skills and will. This is the opportunity to apply it to FOSS. :) |
| 07:36.54 | mohangupta13 | now as the list of the final ideas is not out , what best can i can do to research about the project i want to join (given there is not much time before actually application process takes place)? |
| 07:38.53 | gaveen | mohangupta13, most previous mentor orgs are likely to apply. Some if not most of them have SoC pages up already. Also try the projects you like |
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| 07:39.05 | IwikiwI | !orgbylang |
| 07:39.06 | socinfo | "orgbylang" is http://eflow.org/wiki/index.php?Mentors_by_language |
| 07:39.26 | IwikiwI | mohangupta13: check this out too :) |
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| 08:05.44 | PeepOle | asda /me asd |
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| 08:08.54 | codestr0m | is it possible to add a backup admin to our app or is that field closed now as well.. our backup was on holiday recently and I didn't have his id before |
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| 09:43.46 | kblin | morning folks |
| 09:45.09 | Huy | afternoon kblin |
| 09:45.21 | thebolt | hi kblin |
| 09:45.27 | thebolt | (time neutral hi :P) |
| 09:48.35 | kblin | It's always "morning" when I join a channel |
| 09:48.44 | kblin | dberkholz called this IRC timezone, iirc |
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| 09:50.47 | ojwb | isn't sure which gentleman though |
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| 11:31.21 | sandy_kc | Applications will only be reviewed after the deadline |
| 11:31.26 | sandy_kc | sorry |
| 11:32.08 | sandy123 | hi |
| 11:32.11 | sandy123 | sorry |
| 11:33.03 | kblin | what do you feel so sorry about? |
| 11:35.06 | lut4rp | anyone got suggestions for an irssi theme? preferably one that works with indent. |
| 11:35.21 | scorche | try #irssi? |
| 11:35.55 | lut4rp | umm, i'm asking for general suggestions, people in #irssi will probably point me to irssi.org :) |
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| 11:41.22 | ojwb | and we'll point you to #irssi |
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| 11:45.31 | lut4rp | :) |
| 11:45.47 | ajuonline | coz, this is #gsoc |
| 11:45.49 | ajuonline | yAy! |
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| 11:46.02 | lut4rp | this is weird. |
| 11:46.12 | lut4rp | why aren't my irssi timestamps being updated? :/ |
| 11:46.23 | ojwb | points you to #irssi |
| 11:46.32 | ojwb | this really isn't an irssi help channel |
| 11:46.47 | lut4rp | i know, i know :) |
| 11:46.53 | lut4rp | i'm just wondering aloud :) |
| 11:47.11 | arunreddy | what is irssi.? |
| 11:47.32 | kblin | arunreddy: a pretty nifty irc client |
| 11:47.33 | ojwb | Infrared Server-Side Includes |
| 11:47.36 | lut4rp | irssi is a famous text based irc client. |
| 11:47.38 | ojwb | oh right |
| 11:47.42 | ojwb | was close |
| 11:47.47 | scorche | "famous"? |
| 11:47.48 | lut4rp | ojwb - yeah, suuuuure. |
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| 11:48.18 | kblin | scorche: I guess that's irssi's tagline or somesuch |
| 11:48.23 | kblin | sounds like marketing |
| 11:48.26 | lut4rp | well, it is quite famous. Though, probably not as famous as bitchx |
| 11:48.29 | arunreddy | ircii.? |
| 11:48.38 | kblin | scorche: also, famous doesn't mean good |
| 11:48.43 | scorche | wonders what makes an irc client famous |
| 11:48.52 | lut4rp | number of people using it? |
| 11:48.55 | rohananil | i love pidgin :) |
| 11:48.56 | kblin | scorche: IE is probably the most well-known web-browser |
| 11:49.00 | arunreddy | me tooo |
| 11:49.16 | lut4rp | yeah, IE |
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| 11:49.24 | ajuonline | are we making a list of things, we *love* ? |
| 11:49.29 | scorche | rohananil: ugh...pidgin for IRC |
| 11:49.32 | lut4rp | destroying lives of web developers since forever. |
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| 11:50.07 | lut4rp | the last time i tried, Pidgin was quite OK for irc. |
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| 11:50.42 | rohananil | yeah its awesome , all in one :) (yahoo,google,msn,irc) |
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| 11:50.53 | kblin | lut4rp: dunno, I'm not a web developer, but I play one on TV, and I never bothered about browsers |
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| 11:51.08 | kblin | lut4rp: as a web designer you probably need to care |
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| 11:51.24 | lut4rp | kblin - *sigh*, i'd rather not talk about it. |
| 11:51.28 | mrj | Is there any problem connecting freenode using chat? |
| 11:51.30 | lut4rp | IE invokes strong emotions :) |
| 11:51.43 | mrj | i mean..i tried a lot..but could not |
| 11:51.51 | ajuonline | someone please ban lut4rp |
| 11:51.53 | ajuonline | lol |
| 11:51.58 | lut4rp | ajuonline - :O |
| 11:52.02 | lut4rp | ajuonline - FAIL. |
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| 11:52.23 | kblin | ;) |
| 11:52.25 | kblin | whoops |
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| 11:52.40 | lut4rp | rofl |
| 11:52.42 | kblin | close, but not quite ;) |
| 11:52.48 | ajuonline | yeah right |
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| 12:01.26 | sandy_kc | Can somebody tell me the organizations which mentor projects involving numerical computing , scientific computing and mathematical models..?? |
| 12:01.32 | sandy_kc | Can somebody tell me the organizations which mentor projects involving numerical computing , scientific computing and mathematical models..?? |
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| 12:06.02 | lynxlynxlynx | sandy_kc: math models like these http://komplexify.com/images/2009/MathModel2.jpg ? |
| 12:06.43 | PeepOle | cool |
| 12:07.06 | thebolt | hehe, seen it before.. however i don't think one should be allowed to post it unless you can tell what the equations are and what they mean ;) |
| 12:07.47 | PeepOle | The third girl has llaws of thermodynamics equations |
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| 12:07.59 | thebolt | PeepOle: third from left? |
| 12:08.06 | PeepOle | yupp |
| 12:08.08 | thebolt | no thats maxwells 4 equations.. |
| 12:08.15 | thebolt | not thermodynamics |
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| 12:08.39 | PeepOle | thebolt: Oh yes I meant maxwell equations only, |
| 12:08.51 | thebolt | second from left have two (at least) related to thermodynamics (bottom-most one) |
| 12:09.16 | thebolt | first one is two different ways of writing Schrödingers wave equation |
| 12:09.20 | PeepOle | Last one is the cutest |
| 12:09.48 | thebolt | last one has a 4d rotation matrix (rotation around z-axis by theta radians) |
| 12:09.49 | PeepOle | thinks thebolt is showing off |
| 12:09.55 | thebolt | hehe |
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| 12:10.10 | thebolt | sorry.. i'm damaged from my studies :P |
| 12:11.23 | PeepOle | I studies schrodinger, maxwell equatins etc only 4yrs back, and I have aleready forgotten |
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| 12:11.51 | thebolt | :) its two and a half years since i did maxwell, one and a half since schrödinger |
| 12:12.04 | thebolt | but for some fking reason later courses keeps bringing them up ;) |
| 12:12.25 | PeepOle | Oh. I never touched them in the last three years |
| 12:12.38 | PeepOle | thank god |
| 12:12.44 | thebolt | :) |
| 12:13.02 | thebolt | well, schroedinger shows up again when you do semiconductor physics.. |
| 12:13.10 | thebolt | and maxwell in radio-com class(es) |
| 12:13.24 | PeepOle | covers his ears |
| 12:13.30 | thebolt | hehe |
| 12:13.36 | thebolt | so what do/did you study? |
| 12:14.11 | PeepOle | Pure Computer Science |
| 12:14.28 | PeepOle | No semiconductor stuff :P |
| 12:14.34 | scorche | as opposed to that dirty, impure stuff |
| 12:14.44 | PeepOle | hehe |
| 12:14.46 | thebolt | :) |
| 12:15.10 | sid0 | No semiconductor stuff++ |
| 12:15.11 | thebolt | i enjoy the mix i'm doing atm.. about the right amount of theory and "practical" stuff.. |
| 12:15.53 | thebolt | (i'm a msc student in "applied physics and electrical engineering" with focus toward embedded software/reconfigurable hardware and communication systems) |
| 12:16.16 | scorche | that sounds nifty |
| 12:16.34 | PeepOle | sounds terrifying |
| 12:16.37 | thebolt | hehe |
| 12:17.17 | thebolt | my background though is as a programmer of realtime(ish) software for commodity and specialized hardware.. |
| 12:17.27 | thebolt | aka computer game technology :P |
| 12:17.38 | lynxlynxlynx | crystal space |
| 12:18.08 | PeepOle | hmmm, how is realtime software = 3d games ?? |
| 12:18.22 | thebolt | well, that is the open source stuff i do.. but i've spent a couple of years doing it professionally as well |
| 12:18.49 | thebolt | PeepOle: you have realtime (like) constraints on response times, resource usage etc |
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| 12:19.36 | thebolt | for example on a gaming console you have 16ms (per frame).. nothing more, no exceptions |
| 12:19.45 | rohananil | PeepOle: if it goes slow , you wont play the game :) |
| 12:20.37 | PeepOle | Ya , I am getting it |
| 12:28.09 | PeepOle | thebolt: How much formal knowledge is required to work on 3d engines? |
| 12:28.38 | thebolt | PeepOle: none formal |
| 12:28.49 | freebsdgirl | morning folks. |
| 12:28.56 | thebolt | as long as you know what you need to do what you are doing ;) |
| 12:29.14 | thebolt | (i didn't have any formal education when i was wroking as a game physics developer.. got that after :P) |
| 12:30.12 | freebsdgirl | from what i've heard, working in the game industry is hella fun - *if* you're a contractor |
| 12:30.31 | freebsdgirl | but most game companies seem to treat full time employees like crap. see: EA. |
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| 12:31.00 | thebolt | that is not my experience.. but you have to love ti to work there cause it will be alot of work (independent of if you are a contractor or "in-house") |
| 12:31.18 | thebolt | which is one of the reasons i am "retargeting" myself.. i don't have that passion for making games |
| 12:31.30 | PeepOle | thebolt: I am presently have a course in Computer Graphics. But its pretty basic. Polygons, transformations, windowing & clipping, rendering & illumination and such. |
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| 12:31.46 | freebsdgirl | i'm wondering if the problem is just in the big game houses. there's been a lot of publicity surrounding it, and i've had friends that worked for EA and were... ah. displeased. |
| 12:31.53 | PeepOle | thebolt: All theory though. |
| 12:31.57 | thebolt | PeepOle: me too :P (but that is just to get some easy credits ;) |
| 12:32.27 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: might be a bit different in different countries for one.. in Sweden we have laws regulating working hours, vacation etc :P |
| 12:32.34 | freebsdgirl | ah! |
| 12:32.40 | freebsdgirl | yes, no doubt. :) |
| 12:33.00 | thebolt | or well, most of europe have more legislative regulation on the area than USA i think.. |
| 12:33.16 | lynxlynxlynx | dilbert :) |
| 12:33.20 | freebsdgirl | it's really interesting seeing the way work is handled in other countries vs. the US, especially when it comes to IT. |
| 12:33.34 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: definitely |
| 12:34.01 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: i worked for an american company for one year. .but they had offices in US, Sweden, Switzerland and China.. was something different in every location :) |
| 12:34.33 | freebsdgirl | we are intense and crazy over here, but then again, if you look at say, the number of people in freebsd that are working on this stuff in their spare time, the number of US developers is significantly smaller than europe. |
| 12:34.50 | thebolt | they were a bit surprised for example (after the aquisition of the Swedish company i used to work for) that we all had 4 weeks vacation (by law) |
| 12:34.58 | freebsdgirl | you have to wonder if the way IT (and work in general) is handled in the US is sucking the passion out of the developers, making them not want to work on projects in their spare time. |
| 12:35.32 | freebsdgirl | lh needs to wake up. i'm bored. |
| 12:35.38 | ajuonline | good morning freebsdgirl :P |
| 12:35.41 | ajuonline | isnt it too early? |
| 12:35.43 | freebsdgirl | morning! |
| 12:35.45 | freebsdgirl | yeah. |
| 12:35.54 | kblin | hi randy. how's life? |
| 12:35.56 | ajuonline | did you see burglars dreams again? |
| 12:35.56 | thebolt | ajuonline: its always too early to wake up :) |
| 12:36.05 | freebsdgirl | it's like 5:30 AM here. |
| 12:36.13 | freebsdgirl | kblin: randi. and it's going very well. :) |
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| 12:36.22 | freebsdgirl | i'm going to be speaking at my first conference, so i'm up working on my slides. |
| 12:36.29 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: which one? |
| 12:36.33 | freebsdgirl | bsdcan |
| 12:36.35 | kblin | freebsdgirl: ah, d'oh.. whois would have told me |
| 12:36.38 | ajuonline | good luck! :) |
| 12:36.51 | freebsdgirl | kblin: you aren't the first to get it wrong, and i'm sure you won't be the last. :) |
| 12:36.53 | ajuonline | that reminds, I am also speaking for the first Sahana conf. and yes, I need to work on the slides as well :/ |
| 12:36.58 | thebolt | enjoy :) |
| 12:37.05 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: thanks! i'm going to need it. i am terrified of speaking in front of people. |
| 12:37.14 | thebolt | i only spoke at our small internal conf. but took some preparation |
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| 12:37.18 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: take a gun along. |
| 12:37.19 | freebsdgirl | but i've got lh to help me, and she's always one of my favorite presenters. she's good in front of a crowd. |
| 12:37.30 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: i'm sure you'll do fine |
| 12:37.32 | freebsdgirl | hahaha. canadian customs would frown on me taking along a gun. |
| 12:37.38 | ajuonline | lol |
| 12:37.56 | thebolt | i'm terrified for a presenation i have to do in a class at end of semester though.. 10-15 minutes on any topic.. in Chinese :P |
| 12:38.02 | freebsdgirl | i'm breaking tradition by working on my slides now instead of at devsummit, or so i've been told. buncha slackers. |
| 12:38.27 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: woah. |
| 12:38.41 | thebolt | atm my vocabulary is far from being able to generate 10 minute of speaking :P |
| 12:39.26 | ajuonline | i am only terrified when I am not prepared. |
| 12:39.26 | ajuonline | so far, I am not. |
| 12:39.26 | lynxlynxlynx | talk about engrish |
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| 12:39.26 | freebsdgirl | freebsd people are terrifying. i'm going to be scared even if i am prepared. they are all so brilliant, it's intimidating. |
| 12:39.53 | ajuonline | umm, there is one way to come over it. I say, I suck at coding. And then start speaking. |
| 12:39.54 | thebolt | ajuonline: i normally have no problem speaking in front of people.. i think in any other class (or most groups) i could stand up and talk on the subject, given i know it, without too much preparation.. but chinese class is something different :P |
| 12:40.21 | ajuonline | by saying, I mean aloud. so that the audience is aware :P |
| 12:40.38 | kblin | freebsdgirl: I'm sure you'll do fine |
| 12:40.44 | freebsdgirl | also... thinking of them naked? totally doesn't work. |
| 12:40.45 | ajuonline | thebolt: yeah, understand. you will need a crash course on chinese for that. |
| 12:40.53 | freebsdgirl | for so many reasons. |
| 12:40.55 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: rofl! |
| 12:41.09 | kblin | freebsdgirl: uh, I wouldn't like to think of a room full of naked geeks either :) |
| 12:41.23 | thebolt | ajuonline: hehe, yea.. well, thats pretty much what i am doing but its hard to learn |
| 12:41.26 | ajuonline | that can be soo distracting |
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| 12:42.21 | lynxlynxlynx | hehe |
| 12:43.19 | freebsdgirl | the best thing i've been able to come up with so far for speaking @ conferences (which may help any of y'all tha thave to do so) is youtube. a lot of the past conferences i've gone to have put the video stream up on youtube, and going through and watching how other people do things - and what mistakes they make - is extremely helpful. |
| 12:43.39 | ajuonline | good tip :) |
| 12:43.44 | freebsdgirl | especially when it comes to what should go on a slide and what shouldn't. :) |
| 12:43.50 | ajuonline | i've never done that, should do it. |
| 12:44.03 | kblin | freebsdgirl: it's also a nice thing to come back to later |
| 12:44.09 | kblin | for your own stuff, that is |
| 12:44.12 | lynxlynxlynx | it's also a good idea to practice timing |
| 12:44.14 | lu_zero | I hate slides and rather have mind maps |
| 12:45.01 | lu_zero | helps you jumping from an idea to another and interact better with the audience |
| 12:45.04 | kblin | apart from that one talk where my computer blew up right before the talk.. the first five minutes I don't really sound like myself until the adrenalin starts to ebb away |
| 12:45.26 | kblin | lu_zero: very much depends on your topic |
| 12:45.33 | ajuonline | that happened with me for a minute. i plugged in the project wire. and my laptop went dead. |
| 12:45.41 | lil_Toady | 'freebsd' and 'girl' in one sentence :O that's something new |
| 12:45.42 | ajuonline | projector* |
| 12:46.05 | ajuonline | lil_Toady: if that helps, its a male. |
| 12:46.18 | kblin | ajuonline: er, no? |
| 12:46.18 | lil_Toady | phew |
| 12:46.19 | ajuonline | lol |
| 12:46.23 | ajuonline | kblin: ;) |
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| 12:46.33 | thebolt | kblin: literaly blew up? |
| 12:46.55 | ajuonline | lil_Toady: google is your friend look up to uncover the myth |
| 12:46.59 | ajuonline | =) |
| 12:47.05 | kblin | thebolt: no, just decided that X wasn't going to work anymore |
| 12:47.17 | thebolt | kblin: okay |
| 12:47.20 | lil_Toady | should send a request to myth busters |
| 12:47.27 | ajuonline | lil_Toady: http://freebsdgirl.com/ |
| 12:47.40 | ajuonline | and let us talk :) |
| 12:48.04 | ajuonline | the projector pin was damaged, |
| 12:49.02 | kblin | thebolt: the bad part is that I depended on being able to demo the feature I was talking about |
| 12:49.31 | thebolt | kblin: thats a bit unfortunate |
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| 12:50.04 | spectie | mornin' all |
| 12:50.09 | ajuonline | morning fran |
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| 12:50.43 | spectie | hey ajuonline |
| 12:51.07 | ajuonline | needs a shower |
| 12:51.08 | ajuonline | brb |
| 12:51.38 | kblin | thebolt: luckily my demo was "make testenv" and run some things in there, and one of the other devs lent me his setup |
| 12:51.41 | ajuonline | indian music rocks :P |
| 12:52.23 | ajuonline | does anyone else, play music out loud so that the whole colony can hear what your playing, when you go shower? |
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| 12:53.49 | lynxlynxlynx | no, someone beat up the dude that was doing it in our block and all is fine now :P |
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| 12:56.09 | thebolt | kblin: okay :) |
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| 13:03.28 | freebsdgirl | gah. internet broke. |
| 13:03.44 | freebsdgirl | comcast seems to think that 5:30 on a sunday morning is an acceptable time for maintenance. |
| 13:03.45 | freebsdgirl | for shame. |
| 13:03.54 | kblin | hehe |
| 13:04.16 | freebsdgirl | notes that she will have 50Mb/10Mb soon. |
| 13:04.19 | freebsdgirl | looking forward to this. |
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| 13:04.41 | thebolt | :) |
| 13:05.04 | freebsdgirl | lil_Toady: heh, i'm randi@. there are in fact females in freebsd. :) |
| 13:05.17 | thebolt | i wonder how it will feel to be back to 100/10Mb from the current 1Mbish i have now.. (and <1Mb to europe and US) |
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| 13:05.51 | freebsdgirl | 100/10 sounds awesome. |
| 13:06.01 | lynxlynxlynx | why do you need such high bandwidth? |
| 13:06.02 | freebsdgirl | we've got comcast biz at our house. 8 ips, a decent SLA. it's quite nice. |
| 13:06.21 | freebsdgirl | epeen? |
| 13:06.30 | freebsdgirl | it's not so much need. it's just convenient. |
| 13:06.52 | freebsdgirl | there's no such thing as too much bandwidth. also, i serve quite a few things from servers here. |
| 13:06.59 | freebsdgirl | we've got about 14U of servers running in the office. |
| 13:07.05 | thebolt | lynxlynxlynx: just nice not to have to wait |
| 13:07.33 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: 100/10 is/was/will be in my student apartment/dorm.. other part of city oyu get 100/100 or Gb fiber to your apartment ;) |
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| 13:07.44 | thebolt | (but of couse you share the trunks with many others..) |
| 13:07.59 | lynxlynxlynx | thebolt: wait for what?? |
| 13:08.34 | lynxlynxlynx | i understand the need for it in a server, but for not an end machine |
| 13:08.34 | freebsdgirl | is working on downloading the internet. in case it ever dies. |
| 13:08.42 | freebsdgirl | we've got about 12TB of storage on our network currently. |
| 13:08.44 | freebsdgirl | all of it full. |
| 13:08.49 | thebolt | lynxlynxlynx: linux isos, online TV, etc |
| 13:09.27 | freebsdgirl | lynxlynxlynx: are you really expecting people to admit to downloading porn/torrenting? |
| 13:09.40 | lynxlynxlynx | you can download a cdfull of crap in 15min with 10 down already |
| 13:09.41 | freebsdgirl | because you know that's what it's for. i mean, this is obvious. |
| 13:09.41 | lynxlynxlynx | freebsdgirl: hehe |
| 13:09.57 | freebsdgirl | we're in an instant gratification society |
| 13:10.06 | freebsdgirl | no one wants to wait 15 minutes when they could pay a few $ a month more and download it in 2. |
| 13:10.09 | lynxlynxlynx | freebsdgirl: too much porn can be downloaded, you'd have no time to watch all of it |
| 13:10.17 | freebsdgirl | lynxlynxlynx: archival purposes. |
| 13:10.36 | jpirie23 | lynxlynxlynx: multiple screens needed :) |
| 13:10.58 | freebsdgirl | at some point given the way our government is leaning (present president excluded), porn will be outlawed. |
| 13:11.00 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: well, up until recently at least dl:ing (but not uploading) movies was not illegal where i'm from ;) |
| 13:11.14 | freebsdgirl | have you been following thepiratebay trial? |
| 13:11.19 | thebolt | yes |
| 13:11.22 | thebolt | daily :P |
| 13:11.22 | freebsdgirl | mad props to those guys for handling this the way they have. |
| 13:11.25 | freebsdgirl | same. :) |
| 13:11.28 | thebolt | hehe |
| 13:11.40 | kblin | missed it |
| 13:11.44 | thebolt | given the outcome there affect me pretty directly |
| 13:11.49 | freebsdgirl | i sent them an email offering to donate $ to help out with their legal funds, but they don't appaer to need it. |
| 13:11.52 | sid0 | thing with tpb is, they hog all the attention while the real people continue behind the scenes |
| 13:11.55 | jpirie23 | what's been happening with the pirate bay? book getting thrown at them? |
| 13:11.57 | freebsdgirl | appear, rather. |
| 13:12.02 | freebsdgirl | jpirie23: oh, there's been a huge trial |
| 13:12.05 | freebsdgirl | check torrentfreak. |
| 13:12.12 | jpirie23 | i,ll give it a google |
| 13:12.15 | freebsdgirl | or pirate-bay tag on gizmodo, as they've done a good job of summing it up. |
| 13:12.21 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: it won't be over until it goes to the supremecourt though |
| 13:12.27 | thebolt | and this was just first instance |
| 13:12.28 | freebsdgirl | i loled at the king kong defense. |
| 13:12.32 | freebsdgirl | yeah, whatever happens, it's going to be appealed. |
| 13:12.36 | ojwb | even I'd heard of the trial and I live under a rock on mars |
| 13:12.42 | jpirie23 | woah @ num results :/ |
| 13:12.51 | freebsdgirl | jpirie23: sec, i'll give you a good url |
| 13:12.59 | thebolt | (and i am pretty sure supreme court is going to take it as it will set policy) |
| 13:13.08 | freebsdgirl | jpirie23: http://gizmodo.com/search/pirate-bay |
| 13:13.18 | freebsdgirl | read the entries called 'Pirate Bay Trial Watch' |
| 13:13.20 | freebsdgirl | short and to the point. |
| 13:13.29 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: i guess you haven't heard the live transmissions from the court room though? they are very funny at points :) |
| 13:13.34 | freebsdgirl | the rest of the world is watching to see what happens with this. |
| 13:13.45 | thebolt | s/transmissions/recordings |
| 13:13.47 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: nah. sadly, i'm usually at work when i'm reading this stuff, and i do have to get *some* work done :) |
| 13:13.52 | thebolt | hehe |
| 13:13.57 | sid0 | thebolt: the IRL/AFK thing was nice |
| 13:14.03 | freebsdgirl | oh god, yes, that was hilarious. |
| 13:14.05 | thebolt | sid0: :) |
| 13:14.53 | freebsdgirl | i've been following the dude's twitter feed. |
| 13:14.56 | thebolt | there are a few other occations when the defendents show that the prosecutor have no idea about some stuff as well.. |
| 13:14.58 | freebsdgirl | he's tweeting from the trial. |
| 13:15.07 | thebolt | one of them, yea |
| 13:15.35 | freebsdgirl | well, the real problem here is if the offense came in armed with actual working knowledge of how things worked, tpb would be in trouble. |
| 13:15.52 | freebsdgirl | but since the prosecutor is so incompetent, the defense can make him look stupid and it's done/done |
| 13:16.04 | thebolt | well, that is not clear actually |
| 13:16.07 | freebsdgirl | this is one of the few times i've celebrated someone's incompetence. |
| 13:16.13 | jpirie23 | lol |
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| 13:16.27 | thebolt | one problem is we have a couple of laws which overlaps and its not clear which one should be applied in this case |
| 13:16.42 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: ok. well, i can't say which way the courts over there would go. but i know that's how it'd happen if you had americans running things :P |
| 13:16.42 | jpirie23 | looks like this is going to go on for quite some time |
| 13:16.53 | freebsdgirl | jpirie23: no doubt. |
| 13:17.06 | thebolt | and depending on which one should be used there have been cases in supreme court that would suggest one way or another depending on which law |
| 13:17.38 | freebsdgirl | i'm wondering what will happen to tpb if they lose. where else can these services be hosted? |
| 13:17.41 | freebsdgirl | russia maybe? |
| 13:17.41 | ajuonline | public domain |
| 13:17.45 | ajuonline | put it all in it :D |
| 13:17.54 | thebolt | (for example a BBS owner found not guilty of any crime after users posted illegal things on his BBS.. he was found to be in the same capacity as postal service or tele-co) |
| 13:18.13 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: actually much of it is already hosted outside sweden.. ;) i think parts at least in netherlands (but not sure) |
| 13:18.21 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: but there's something to be said about the operator of such a site having some level of personal responsibility. |
| 13:18.30 | ajuonline | which is a country where you can host anything? |
| 13:19.36 | freebsdgirl | if someone robs a bank and you're the person driving the car... |
| 13:20.08 | freebsdgirl | don't get me wrong, i'm all for tpb winning. but it doesn't mean i can't argue both ways. |
| 13:20.10 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: yea, but there are special laws covering the operator of "message delivery businesses" etc |
| 13:20.13 | ajuonline | but what if I am drunk and not in my senses and driving the car |
| 13:20.23 | thebolt | and part of the trial is about which laws can be applied |
| 13:20.30 | freebsdgirl | being drunk is only an excuse that works with your girlfriend. not with the police. :P |
| 13:20.36 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: interesting. |
| 13:20.40 | ajuonline | i should only be booked for drunken driving, not supporting a criminal right? |
| 13:20.46 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: nope. |
| 13:20.49 | ajuonline | lol |
| 13:20.55 | thebolt | esp in this case when the prosecutor cannot show the "primary crime".. |
| 13:21.02 | ajuonline | i did not do it, in my senses |
| 13:21.27 | thebolt | it is a bit unclear if you according to swedish law can be found guilty of "assisting X" if you cannot show (by a trial) that crime X has taken place.. |
| 13:22.00 | freebsdgirl | but if prosecution was competent, they could probably figure out a way to prove that said crime took place. |
| 13:22.46 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: well, they have tried, multiple times |
| 13:22.50 | freebsdgirl | i'm assuming that DMCA is applicable there? |
| 13:22.52 | thebolt | but been unable to |
| 13:22.54 | thebolt | no, not at all |
| 13:22.58 | freebsdgirl | ah hah! |
| 13:23.00 | thebolt | that is american law :P |
| 13:23.03 | freebsdgirl | so what's the supposed crime? |
| 13:23.12 | thebolt | copyright infringement |
| 13:23.22 | thebolt | (ie breach of swedish copyright law) |
| 13:23.26 | freebsdgirl | i think of them as being the same. meh. |
| 13:23.50 | freebsdgirl | how difficult is it to prove that there's a crime taking place? connect to tracker, get the IP's of seeds for a given torrent. |
| 13:23.58 | thebolt | but nobody have ever been convicted of breaking copyright law for torrenting.. one case for a DC++ operator |
| 13:24.05 | thebolt | well, the ip's then needs to be connected to people |
| 13:24.17 | thebolt | and you need to find said people |
| 13:24.17 | freebsdgirl | haha |
| 13:24.20 | freebsdgirl | that's awesome. |
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| 13:24.25 | freebsdgirl | i so want to move to sweden. |
| 13:24.54 | freebsdgirl | wonders if cisco has an office in sweden. |
| 13:25.09 | thebolt | and in sweden the police can only (ntil soon.. unfortunately) request an ISP to give out who had a specific IP at a given time if the crime is of such level that it might give more than minor prison time |
| 13:25.23 | thebolt | and a single movie download does not give that high punishment.. |
| 13:25.34 | thebolt | so they get stuck there :P |
| 13:25.35 | freebsdgirl | so sweden's laws are all about protecting the peoples rights |
| 13:25.36 | freebsdgirl | unlike here. |
| 13:26.00 | thebolt | they at least used to be |
| 13:26.12 | freebsdgirl | it sounds like they still are. that's amazing to me. |
| 13:26.19 | ajuonline | sweden, hmmm one country I want to visit. |
| 13:26.20 | thebolt | the last year our new (fantastic.. *hmfps*) gov. have voted yes to a couple of changes |
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| 13:26.42 | thebolt | one of them will (probably) in thsi regard give copyright owners resources not even the police have atm.. |
| 13:26.55 | lu_zero | if the goverment is rotten in a sane democracy it is removed |
| 13:27.12 | lu_zero | thebolt copyright owners? |
| 13:27.20 | lu_zero | everybody is a copyright owner... |
| 13:27.24 | freebsdgirl | the best thing about being a grown up is the ability to have sour patch kids and whip creme for breakfast. |
| 13:27.41 | thebolt | (like the ability to send subpoenas to ISPs to get their customers) |
| 13:27.45 | ajuonline | grown ups are boring |
| 13:28.03 | lu_zero | thebolt so everybody could claim stuff and get those sent? |
| 13:28.06 | thebolt | lu_zero: well, those who own copyrighted material and thinks it is copied etc P) |
| 13:28.10 | lu_zero | sounds... interesting... |
| 13:28.11 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: not when they can mainline sugar. |
| 13:28.16 | thebolt | lu_zero: well, they have to go to a court to get it granted, but yes |
| 13:28.20 | ojwb | NZ's goverment tried to bring in a ludicrous new copyright law, but one of the big ISPs has essentially blocked it |
| 13:28.24 | ojwb | http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/2252415/TelstraClear-rejects-copyright-code |
| 13:28.34 | thebolt | but in reality only the large organizations will have resources to do so |
| 13:28.35 | freebsdgirl | woah. telstra did something intelligent? |
| 13:28.39 | ojwb | yes |
| 13:28.43 | ojwb | was amazed |
| 13:28.44 | freebsdgirl | i have a friend constantly bitching about them. |
| 13:28.50 | scorche | freebsdgirl: i have actually been looking at moving to sweden for the past few years... |
| 13:28.55 | ojwb | we were with them and more than half the bills were wrong |
| 13:29.05 | thebolt | ojwb: hehe, one of the swedish ISPs said the same.. they will refuse to cooperate until supreme court forces them to :P |
| 13:29.08 | ojwb | they fix them when you ring them, but it's a hassle |
| 13:29.09 | freebsdgirl | scorche: my mom visited sweden, she loved it. but i dunno if i could keep up my standard of living there. |
| 13:29.12 | lu_zero | thebolt so, when are the next elections? |
| 13:29.31 | lu_zero | is from a subpar state with fake democracy and widespread corruption |
| 13:29.49 | thebolt | lu_zero: 2010 |
| 13:29.55 | freebsdgirl | i'm thinking about doing the freebsdgirl-world-tour in september since i already have to be in europe for eurobsdcon. |
| 13:29.59 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: what would prevent you? |
| 13:30.02 | freebsdgirl | sweden is on the list of possibilities. |
| 13:30.04 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: drugs? ;/ |
| 13:30.21 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: money. i like money. i make good money. i buy a lot of things that blink. |
| 13:30.25 | thiago_home | liked Sweden a lot the two times he was there |
| 13:30.35 | scorche | freebsdgirl: indeed...i was looking at spending a year or so there...taking a few classes, etc |
| 13:30.42 | spectie | scorche, cool |
| 13:30.49 | spectie | swedish is a cool language to learn |
| 13:30.51 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: ah, well, you can make loads of money in sweden, but you need to pay taxes on them :) |
| 13:30.57 | thebolt | spectie: stay away from it.. no use at all :P |
| 13:31.01 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: worse than what i pay in taxes here? |
| 13:31.04 | spectie | thebolt, why not ? |
| 13:31.09 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: not sure what you pay there.. |
| 13:31.10 | freebsdgirl | if cisco had an office in sweden, i could just transfer. |
| 13:31.10 | spectie | it would be useful for learning other nordic languages |
| 13:31.11 | lil_Toady | nobody ever wants to go to soviet russia :( |
| 13:31.17 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: about 35% |
| 13:31.22 | spectie | danish, norwegian etc. |
| 13:31.25 | thebolt | spectie: not useful at all |
| 13:31.37 | freebsdgirl | lil_Toady: i dated a russian for over a year. he complained about russia the whole time. |
| 13:31.39 | thebolt | even if you learn to speak to all nordic countries its still only 20 million people |
| 13:31.50 | spectie | it's useful if you're working on nordic computational linguistics |
| 13:31.57 | spectie | i'm aligning tagged bibles in faroese and icelandic |
| 13:31.58 | lil_Toady | idiot :( |
| 13:32.07 | spectie | and i could tell you that a knowledge of norwegian would be great right now |
| 13:32.19 | freebsdgirl | well, he had good reason. his parents were physicists. not a whole lot of work for them ~15 years ago. |
| 13:32.27 | ajuonline | russian girls are hot tho :P |
| 13:32.30 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: swedish system is progressive.. base is around 33-35% depending on city.. over a certain amount you get another 10% and then another 10%.. so on the top its like 55% |
| 13:32.33 | lil_Toady | oh, makes sense |
| 13:32.39 | scorche | ajuonline: swedish.. |
| 13:32.39 | freebsdgirl | thebolt: ack. |
| 13:32.45 | spectie | thebolt, besides, communication is only one reason for learning a language |
| 13:32.47 | ajuonline | scorche: they too. |
| 13:32.50 | freebsdgirl | ok, sweden is out. |
| 13:32.59 | ajuonline | thats a lot of tax to pay |
| 13:33.00 | lil_Toady | russia has amazingly changed for last 10 years |
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| 13:33.07 | scorche | freebsdgirl: then again, the government does more for you.... (though i dont knwo where being international comes into it) |
| 13:33.08 | spectie | you have ace social services though |
| 13:33.09 | spectie | :D |
| 13:33.18 | scorche | spectie: yup |
| 13:33.21 | spectie | the alcohol situation is pretty dire though! |
| 13:33.23 | ajuonline | they should just come and take it from the behind, than ripping all the hard earned money |
| 13:33.30 | thebolt | spectie: so far, yes :) |
| 13:33.41 | freebsdgirl | with the exception of the last SCALE (sigh), i don't drink. so that's not so much of an issue. |
| 13:33.52 | scorche | heh..."sigh"? |
| 13:34.01 | freebsdgirl | i'm amazed i made it back up to the room unassisted. |
| 13:34.08 | thiago_home | you don't like Systembolaget? :-) |
| 13:34.12 | scorche | you were a bit intoxicated... ;) |
| 13:34.25 | freebsdgirl | i remember stumbling down the hall saying "404... 404... ROOM NOT FOUND" |
| 13:34.33 | ajuonline | lol |
| 13:34.36 | thebolt | freebsdgirl: sounds like a good party :) |
| 13:34.39 | freebsdgirl | (the room number was 404) |
| 13:34.40 | thebolt | thiago_home: i do |
| 13:34.53 | thebolt | thiago_home: never found a place with such good selection anywhere else |
| 13:35.00 | spectie | lol freebsdgirl |
| 13:35.10 | ojwb | that's why I always ask for room 200 |
| 13:35.12 | thiago_home | Systembolaget > Vinmonopolet |
| 13:35.14 | spectie | ojwb, :D |
| 13:35.16 | freebsdgirl | haha |
| 13:35.26 | scorche | freebsdgirl: and then i was with lh looking around for you to make sure you hadnt run off somewhere while in your current state ;) |
| 13:35.33 | freebsdgirl | haha |
| 13:35.39 | freebsdgirl | i blame the weakest geek. |
| 13:35.47 | freebsdgirl | i was so incredibly scared to be up in front of all those people. |
| 13:35.54 | freebsdgirl | i just started drinking and did not stop. |
| 13:36.00 | freebsdgirl | i haven't had that much to drink in years. |
| 13:36.00 | scorche | those user friendly questions were bunk |
| 13:36.18 | freebsdgirl | all those questions were bunk. i can't believe he asked me linux questions. |
| 13:36.23 | freebsdgirl | like, hi? |
| 13:36.35 | scorche | well, he did ask you *one* bsd question |
| 13:36.42 | freebsdgirl | yeah. which i got wrong. which was total bs :P |
| 13:36.49 | freebsdgirl | and then i get the linux SMP question right. how the hell did that happen. |
| 13:37.13 | kblin | freebsdgirl: panel discussion? |
| 13:37.22 | freebsdgirl | i called jonobacon a dick on twitter, and he spent like 4 posts apologizing. |
| 13:37.24 | freebsdgirl | kblin: game show. |
| 13:37.25 | scorche | well, technically you didnt...he just made it easier on you by going back to "2.0 - yes..." |
| 13:37.34 | freebsdgirl | i totally got it right. |
| 13:37.41 | scorche | you said 2.1.something! |
| 13:37.44 | freebsdgirl | no i didn't. |
| 13:37.46 | freebsdgirl | i said 2.0.14 |
| 13:37.47 | scorche | did too |
| 13:37.52 | scorche | oh, pah |
| 13:37.55 | freebsdgirl | because 2.0.14 was the first linux kernel i ran. |
| 13:38.02 | thebolt | haha..nice fight :P |
| 13:38.47 | IwikiwI | Can I apply for two projs in the same org? Or is this solely dependent on the organization? |
| 13:38.53 | freebsdgirl | notes a disturbing lack of NIN in her itunes. must fix. |
| 13:39.09 | scorche | IwikiwI: sure...but of course you can ask the org and let them know which you would prefer |
| 13:39.29 | thiago_home | IwikiwI: you can apply to as many as you'd like |
| 13:39.35 | thiago_home | IwikiwI: but you can only be selected by one |
| 13:40.00 | thiago_home | which one, it depends on the projects you submit and to whom |
| 13:40.13 | thiago_home | usually, they ask you, but sometimes an org may say "we really need this" |
| 13:40.47 | scorche | freebsdgirl: so what is the talk on? |
| 13:41.39 | IwikiwI | scorche, thiago_home: thanks, I guess i'll have to talk to the org about preferences :) . thing is i've talked to a mentor for a while, and now i see another proj in the page for which i have a decent approach figured out. |
| 13:44.11 | freebsdgirl | scorche: automating freebsd installations over pxe using the built-in methods |
| 13:44.15 | freebsdgirl | ie: install.cfg/sysinstall |
| 13:44.21 | freebsdgirl | it's a pretty easy talk. |
| 13:45.04 | freebsdgirl | http://www.bsdcan.org/2009/schedule/events/126.en.html |
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| 13:55.07 | mitsuhiko | freebsdgirl: link to tweet? |
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| 13:58.01 | scorche | mitsuhiko: http://tinyurl.com/ckqdzb |
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| 13:59.03 | mitsuhiko | scorche: not what i was expecting :) |
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| 13:59.58 | _efes_ | Hi :) |
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| 14:48.42 | spectie | hey homunq |
| 14:48.50 | spectie | i'm translating some docs from spanish to english |
| 14:49.05 | spectie | and the crazies just switched from using spanish in the pseudocode to basque! |
| 14:49.09 | spectie | for (chunks) |
| 14:49.13 | spectie | nodo=(bilatu_azken_hitza) |
| 14:49.13 | spectie | egokitu_lema_pos(nodo) |
| 14:49.16 | spectie | o______O |
| 14:49.20 | borja | heh |
| 14:50.25 | spectie | the best code obfuscation ever! |
| 14:50.49 | mdc_mobile | "it is a good day to hack." |
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| 14:53.00 | spectie | http://www.nopaste.com/p/aUqiKO1xl |
| 14:53.13 | spectie | there is the translation, 30 pages in ~8 hour |
| 14:53.13 | spectie | s |
| 14:53.17 | spectie | the english is pretty rough |
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| 15:03.50 | homunq | spectie: apertium + bityi = anti-basque-obfuscation :) |
| 15:04.12 | spectie | :D |
| 15:04.31 | spectie | btw, the code is all commented in basque too |
| 15:05.05 | spectie | well, basque and english it seems |
| 15:05.09 | spectie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.10 | spectie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:19.43 | _efes_ | Question: Yesterday organizations submited their ideas, but can the add new one before Google will decide which are okey? |
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| 15:20.00 | ranjith | hi all |
| 15:20.01 | _efes_ | *can organization add |
| 15:20.04 | _efes_ | hi ranjith |
| 15:20.08 | borja | _efes_: no |
| 15:20.10 | borja | !timeline |
| 15:20.10 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 15:20.33 | _efes_ | thx |
| 15:20.39 | dhaun | of course you can still edit your ideas list - you just can't edit your application any more |
| 15:20.40 | lynxlynxlynx | i doubt that |
| 15:20.40 | thiago_home | _efes_: Google does not look at the ideas |
| 15:20.48 | thiago_home | the ideas are the orgs' responsibility |
| 15:21.03 | borja | _efes_: oh, wait, you're referring specifically to the ideas list |
| 15:21.15 | ranjith | is there any one from the kaury projects..? |
| 15:21.23 | ranjith | or from the maemo projects..? |
| 15:21.24 | _efes_ | thiago_home: So what the're looking at ? |
| 15:21.42 | scorche | !anyone |
| 15:21.42 | socinfo | Error: "anyone" is not a valid command. |
| 15:21.46 | scorche | ~anyone |
| 15:21.47 | ibot | hmm... anyone is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, try the project's IRC channel, likely on this server as well. |
| 15:22.00 | thiago_home | _efes_: what is Google looking at? |
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| 15:22.12 | _efes_ | thiago_home: Correct :] |
| 15:22.44 | thiago_home | they're looking at the ideas page, definitely |
| 15:22.49 | thiago_home | when they're doing that, you won't nkow |
| 15:23.06 | thiago_home | but they're also looking at the organisation's past record with GSoC, their standing in the community, the number of mentors |
| 15:23.17 | scorche | !learn anyone as Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a "/join #<mentoring org here>" |
| 15:23.18 | socinfo | The operation succeeded. |
| 15:23.53 | dhaun | thiago_home: number of mentors would be a problem this year, since the application form didn't ask for that information :) |
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| 15:24.34 | PeepOle | ~lh |
| 15:24.35 | ibot | methinks lh is amazing, and probably secretly super woman with super human powers |
| 15:24.40 | _efes_ | thiago_home: My problem is that I've an idea for KDE, but I'm not sure whether I can submit new one to their list. Well... there's also a problem with a mentor xD |
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| 15:25.52 | thiago_home | dhaun: for orgs from past years then :-) |
| 15:26.01 | thiago_home | _efes_: you can submit new ideas to the KDE page, no problems |
| 15:26.11 | borja | _efes_: The list of ideas for an organization is not set in stone; i.e., if an organization is accepted, you can suggest your own project idea |
| 15:26.18 | thiago_home | and KDE has no problem with mentors. For the past 4 years, we've had more mentors then students. |
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| 15:26.57 | _efes_ | thiago_home: Does mentor recieves a stipend just like student does? |
| 15:27.15 | thiago_home | depends on the organisation |
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| 15:27.29 | thiago_home | Google pays the organisation. The org may decide to reimburse the mentor for their trouble. |
| 15:28.00 | _efes_ | thiago_home: You mean Google don't pay for mentors, am I right? |
| 15:28.05 | lynxlynxlynx | yes |
| 15:28.09 | thiago_home | but they may not. In the past years, the GSoC money was used in KDE to sponsor hacker meetings (code camps, whatever you call it) |
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| 15:28.23 | thiago_home | Google sets aside $5000 per student |
| 15:28.23 | _dr | i thought the faq says they get 500$ |
| 15:28.27 | thiago_home | $500 goes to the org |
| 15:28.39 | thiago_home | $4500 goes to the student in 3 payments (500+2000+2000) |
| 15:28.46 | dhaun | we gave it to our mentors :) |
| 15:28.55 | Crofton|work | If we are selected, we plan to use the money to make sure the students have beagleboards |
| 15:29.21 | lynxlynxlynx | we'll get pie |
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| 15:29.44 | thiago_home | $20k and $24k was enough money to cover a couple of developer gatherings |
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| 15:30.28 | _efes_ | thiago_home: Are you KDE devel/mentor ? |
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| 15:33.46 | Crofton|work | does not expect to get enough students to do much with the money otherwise :) |
| 15:33.55 | thiago_home | _efes_: developer yes; mentor I haven't been since 2005 |
| 15:33.58 | thiago_home | I have been admin |
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| 15:49.52 | kumarabhi | hey people i wanted to know one thing |
| 15:50.00 | kumarabhi | whom shall i talk with |
| 15:50.06 | kumarabhi | if i am having some ideas |
| 15:50.11 | kumarabhi | for gsoc |
| 15:50.20 | danderson | !ask |
| 15:50.21 | socinfo | "ask" is don't ask to ask, just ask! |
| 15:50.40 | danderson | and it's better to go talk to the mentoring orgs directly |
| 15:50.46 | borja | !anyone |
| 15:50.46 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 15:50.49 | danderson | they will be more interested. |
| 15:50.57 | danderson | borja: thanks. Couldn't remember the word :) |
| 15:50.57 | spectie | aye |
| 15:51.06 | borja | danderson: no prob |
| 15:51.40 | danderson | oh, and if you didn't know you need a mentoring org... |
| 15:51.42 | danderson | !faq |
| 15:51.42 | socinfo | "faq" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 15:51.46 | danderson | go read that first. |
| 15:55.58 | _efes_ | thiago_home: May I talk to you in private? |
| 15:56.05 | kumarabhi | but if i go to irc channel of a mentoring org and discuss my idea , will it not get leaked ie. others will come to know about it ? |
| 15:56.05 | thiago_home | _efes_: sure |
| 15:56.14 | thiago_home | yes |
| 15:56.24 | Crofton|work | kumarabhi, this is open source :) |
| 15:56.28 | thiago_home | but why do you want to keep your idea private |
| 15:56.29 | spectie | kumarabhi, open-source |
| 15:56.31 | thiago_home | if it's good, it should be done |
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| 15:56.35 | spectie | why would you want to hide your idea ? |
| 15:56.48 | skbohra | kumarabhi: let everything be open |
| 15:56.56 | Crofton|work | we know about these issues |
| 15:57.05 | Crofton|work | best be the first to introduce the idea |
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| 15:58.33 | borja | kumarabhi: plus, the idea is only one part of a successful GSoC application. orgs will also be concerned with whether you'll be able to develop that idea, if you have a clear plan for the summer, etc. |
| 15:59.17 | kumarabhi | ok borja |
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| 16:00.06 | kumarabhi | ok so conclusion is that : i should go to the irc channel of the organisation and discuss the idea directly there? right? |
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| 16:01.38 | spectie | yes |
| 16:01.41 | spectie | basically |
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| 16:09.11 | kumarabhi | basically ... spectie so u want to say something next? |
| 16:09.19 | spectie | nope |
| 16:09.25 | spectie | i was saying what you said was basically the idea |
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| 16:10.33 | Crofton|work | discussing your idea with the mentoring org improves your chances of getting selected |
| 16:10.43 | Crofton|work | if they find you good to work with |
| 16:10.52 | Crofton|work | and you can work out if they are good to work for :) |
| 16:11.10 | lynxlynxlynx | the more communication the better |
| 16:11.58 | PeepOle | kumarabhi: you from Bangalore? |
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| 16:21.51 | summatusmentis | Landon: you've got the eee 1000? |
| 16:22.37 | jag_haxxan | has the eee1000 |
| 16:23.21 | summatusmentis | I'm contemplating the eee901 |
| 16:23.28 | summatusmentis | but the keyboard worries me |
| 16:23.42 | borja | I'm thinking about getting an eee901, mostly as a travel+backup laptop |
| 16:24.14 | summatusmentis | borja: well, I'd be substituting my current macbook with a custom build desktop + eee901 |
| 16:24.37 | borja | summatusmentis: yeah, the keyboard is less of a concern for me |
| 16:24.46 | jag_haxxan | summatusmentis, I currently prefer my 1000 keyboard than my desktop |
| 16:24.58 | summatusmentis | jag_haxxan: really? |
| 16:25.35 | jag_haxxan | summatusmentis, yep |
| 16:25.36 | summatusmentis | jag_haxxan: you running windows? |
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| 16:25.55 | jag_haxxan | screen size is the biggest problem when using some applications :S |
| 16:25.59 | jag_haxxan | summatusmentis, nope.. debian |
| 16:26.09 | excid3 | ive got an eee 1000ha as well |
| 16:26.14 | summatusmentis | did you buy it with linux? |
| 16:26.25 | excid3 | mine came with xp |
| 16:26.30 | excid3 | im running fedora on it |
| 16:26.42 | jag_haxxan | summatusmentis, eee1000 is the version with SD.. it came with linux |
| 16:26.55 | summatusmentis | excid3: that's what I wanted to know, you can put linux on it |
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| 16:27.13 | summatusmentis | jag_haxxan: I'm contemplating the ee901 w/ windows ($279.99) |
| 16:27.17 | excid3 | summatusmentis, yep, none of the ubuntu based distros had the speed i was lookin for |
| 16:27.33 | excid3 | i bought this one to make sure i got the atheros wireless chipset for wireless hacking |
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| 16:28.00 | borja | summatusmentis: doesn't the linux version of the eee901 come with a larger SD drive? |
| 16:28.08 | summatusmentis | it does |
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| 16:28.15 | summatusmentis | but it's more expensive |
| 16:28.16 | jag_haxxan | hmm is eee901 same keyboard size has 1000? |
| 16:28.27 | excid3 | i think its slightly smaller |
| 16:28.28 | jag_haxxan | *as |
| 16:28.47 | borja | summatusmentis: linux eee901 is going for 279.99 at Amazon, with free shipping |
| 16:28.49 | excid3 | the 1000's is 95% full size |
| 16:28.54 | summatusmentis | BarryCarlyon: really? |
| 16:29.00 | summatusmentis | borja: ** sorry |
| 16:29.38 | summatusmentis | it has a better color too :D |
| 16:30.08 | summatusmentis | borja: you're awesome |
| 16:30.11 | excid3 | whatever you do, i dont recommend the 700 series, 7" is way too small |
| 16:30.25 | summatusmentis | yeah, I agree. I saw a 700 once, far too tiny |
| 16:30.28 | excid3 | my dad has one of those, they keys are ridiculous |
| 16:30.33 | borja | summatusmentis: I know these things because I'm a poor grad student and wouldn't be considering the eee901 otherwise ;-) |
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| 16:30.41 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 16:30.47 | excid3 | lol |
| 16:31.00 | summatusmentis | borja: I was looking on newegg, they've got the windows 901 for the same pric |
| 16:31.02 | summatusmentis | price* |
| 16:31.37 | summatusmentis | it's a special netbook linux distro right? |
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| 16:32.04 | borja | yeah, but apparently it's easily upgradeable to a eee-tuned Ubuntu |
| 16:32.09 | excid3 | yes, but its sorta locked down |
| 16:32.16 | borja | http://www.geteasypeasy.com/ |
| 16:32.27 | excid3 | there are some pretty nifty eee distros of ubuntu, like easy peasy, and cruncheee is my favorite |
| 16:32.30 | summatusmentis | excid3: how's battery life? |
| 16:32.34 | excid3 | but i found fedora ran the best |
| 16:32.50 | excid3 | i bought the expensive 1000ha, its got a 6cell and full power gets like 4 hours |
| 16:33.06 | summatusmentis | this says it's got a 6cell |
| 16:33.14 | summatusmentis | are you running an ssd? |
| 16:33.17 | summatusmentis | or hdd? |
| 16:33.28 | borja | Asus touts 7.5 hours... most reviews I've read said they get 4-4.5 hours when playing videos |
| 16:33.36 | excid3 | i got the 6 cell, 160gb hdd |
| 16:33.45 | summatusmentis | oh, the hdd would make a difference |
| 16:33.49 | summatusmentis | awesome |
| 16:34.19 | summatusmentis | anyone tried osx86? |
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| 16:34.33 | excid3 | yeah, but i feel that 4 hours is plenty normally |
| 16:34.42 | excid3 | at least for me |
| 16:34.45 | summatusmentis | oh, absolutely, I get about 4.5 on my mabook |
| 16:34.48 | summatusmentis | macbook* |
| 16:35.00 | excid3 | ive got a 17" hp laptop, it gets 1.5 hours |
| 16:35.13 | excid3 | it sits on my desk 99% of the time anymore |
| 16:35.18 | excid3 | i love the eee pc so much |
| 16:35.27 | summatusmentis | awesome |
| 16:35.53 | borja | yeah, I want to get an eee because my hand-me-down thinkpad only gets about 80 minutes of battery life, which is really annoying when travelling |
| 16:36.13 | easwar | borja, WTF |
| 16:36.31 | easwar | 80 minutes is pathetic |
| 16:36.38 | borja | easwar: poor grad students only get "real" laptops as hand-me-downs, at which point the battery is mostly spent |
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| 16:36.59 | easwar | even when I haven't owned a laptop in my life |
| 16:37.00 | easwar | :P |
| 16:37.01 | excid3 | yeah, linux reports my hp laptop only charges to a maximum of 60% |
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| 16:37.20 | easwar | borja, no replacing batteries? |
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| 16:38.10 | borja | easwar: Battery replacements would also be a hand-me-down ;-) I could buy my own battery, but I would rather just go the extra mile and get a netbook |
| 16:38.26 | easwar | hmm,good point bobbens |
| 16:38.29 | easwar | oops |
| 16:38.33 | borja | haha |
| 16:38.33 | easwar | borja, ^^ |
| 16:38.51 | excid3 | replacement batteries are usually fairly expensive too |
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| 16:43.38 | lifeeth | ^weird :) |
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| 16:46.24 | ajuonline | PeepOle: that was lame |
| 16:46.27 | ajuonline | :D |
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| 16:54.59 | lh | !advice |
| 16:54.59 | socinfo | "advice" is http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents for students, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors for mentors |
| 16:55.55 | summatusmentis | lh: is that the thing you tweeted about? |
| 16:55.58 | dmitrig01 | lh: hi "D |
| 16:56.00 | dmitrig01 | * :D |
| 16:56.05 | lh | summatusmentis: which thing? |
| 16:56.07 | summatusmentis | I tried reading it on my centro, and it didn't work :-P |
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| 16:56.22 | lh | dmitrig01: hello dear, still working on the mentor agreement question for you |
| 16:56.25 | summatusmentis | I don't know, you tweeted a couple days ago about something for students who were looking to get into GSoC |
| 16:56.28 | dmitrig01 | lh: awesome |
| 16:56.34 | dmitrig01 | lh: do you want to PM about my writeup for google? |
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| 16:56.51 | lh | summatusmentis: ah. it was a pointer here http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
| 16:56.54 | lh | dmitrig01: sure |
| 16:57.00 | summatusmentis | ok, thanks :) |
| 16:57.21 | easwar | lh, twitter profile |
| 16:57.22 | easwar | ? |
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| 16:57.45 | jtraub | summatusmentis, Can you share link to lh's twitter? |
| 16:58.17 | lh | easwar: lhawthorn on twitter, lh on identica |
| 16:59.42 | easwar | follows lh |
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| 17:00.26 | easwar | lh, you have unwittingly found yourself a stalker,to join all the others |
| 17:00.27 | easwar | :P |
| 17:00.38 | easwar | *one more stalker |
| 17:00.40 | lh | easwar: thank you. :) |
| 17:01.24 | excid3 | i shall be following you on identi.ca as well :D |
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| 17:03.19 | lh | excid3: nifty. :) |
| 17:04.05 | excid3 | was going to send you a message, but it looks like gwibber doesnt want to send messages :( |
| 17:04.45 | lh | excid3: all good. i spend far too much time denting and tweeting these days anyway. |
| 17:05.00 | excid3 | me too |
| 17:05.15 | excid3 | its really fun and i don't know why |
| 17:06.10 | easwar | plugs in to Twitter once in the morning and once at night on weekdays,and is buried under avalanches of 20-30 tweets at once |
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| 17:06.47 | easwar | ruthless ignorance,zero impact in 20 secs=>ignore |
| 17:07.44 | rkatiyar | hi |
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| 17:12.16 | spectie | hey lh |
| 17:12.27 | lh | spectie: hello. :) |
| 17:13.13 | easwar | leaves |
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| 17:14.16 | spectie | lh, did you receive the persian translation ? |
| 17:14.45 | lh | spectie: indeed, just have not yet had time to upload it. but thank you very much for sending it. :) |
| 17:14.49 | spectie | ah ok, no problem |
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| 17:18.49 | freebsdgirl | protects her wife from stalkers. |
| 17:19.16 | scorche | claims backup duty |
| 17:19.31 | PeepOle | Hi |
| 17:19.32 | rkatiyar | :) |
| 17:19.45 | freebsdgirl | dude. i can so handle this. |
| 17:19.49 | freebsdgirl | i have a leatherman. and soon a katana. |
| 17:19.50 | PeepOle | How is everybody? |
| 17:19.55 | rkatiyar | i see |
| 17:20.09 | lut4rp | Namaste. |
| 17:20.11 | lut4rp | :) |
| 17:20.18 | rkatiyar | sits in the corner and watches |
| 17:20.20 | scorche | freebsdgirl: the pink leatherman? |
| 17:20.28 | freebsdgirl | oh. i have that and i have a full sized one |
| 17:20.30 | freebsdgirl | you saw the pink one? |
| 17:20.35 | scorche | SCaLE... |
| 17:20.40 | PeepOle | J'ai vu la rose. |
| 17:20.42 | freebsdgirl | i usually carry my leatherman wave with me wherever i go. |
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| 17:20.47 | PeepOle | :) |
| 17:20.49 | scorche | in ze room |
| 17:20.52 | freebsdgirl | it's defended me from robbers in the past. |
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| 17:20.58 | freebsdgirl | ahhh. yes. with the trashed randi. |
| 17:21.08 | scorche | getting more so |
| 17:21.15 | PeepOle | Tous ceux de France? |
| 17:21.15 | freebsdgirl | hides. |
| 17:21.51 | rkatiyar | no french in here ;) |
| 17:22.16 | PeepOle | Ich kann auch Deutsch sprechen. |
| 17:22.18 | lh | hugs scorche and freebsdgirl |
| 17:22.21 | lh | i love y'all. |
| 17:22.24 | spectie | rkatiyar, porquoi non ? |
| 17:22.30 | freebsdgirl | lh: we have to get scorche at our next party. |
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| 17:22.44 | lh | freebsdgirl: darn skippy. |
| 17:22.46 | rkatiyar | cuz nobody replied , see |
| 17:22.47 | spectie | je crois que tout le monde peut entendre el français sans dificultes |
| 17:23.03 | lh | freebsdgirl: should we just have an open invitation for #gsoc to attend our parties? everyone else turns up. |
| 17:23.05 | rkatiyar | and i just have to know a little french, thats all i m not from france |
| 17:23.06 | spectie | of course i only speak french with spanish grammar |
| 17:23.08 | PeepOle | spectie: Comment faites-vous? |
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| 17:23.22 | freebsdgirl | lh: sure. but we do need to put some sort of minimum age thing in play. |
| 17:23.23 | PeepOle | Votre français est mauvais. |
| 17:23.25 | spectie | PeepOle, qu'est ce que je fais ? |
| 17:23.29 | freebsdgirl | i'm not sure how young the gsoc kids are. |
| 17:23.30 | spectie | PeepOle, oui, bien sur |
| 17:23.32 | lh | freebsdgirl: yep. no one under 21. |
| 17:23.34 | freebsdgirl | but 21+ please. |
| 17:23.38 | lh | freebsdgirl: they have to be at least 18. |
| 17:23.39 | PeepOle | Whoa, s'arrêter là . |
| 17:23.40 | rkatiyar | i think they are above 18 |
| 17:23.42 | PeepOle | Pas si vite |
| 17:23.45 | rkatiyar | as it is in FAQs |
| 17:23.54 | Lennie | lh: fixed the link to the user guide in the FAQ @ http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:23.57 | freebsdgirl | our parties are already very much open source parties |
| 17:23.58 | spectie | PeepOle, je parle seulement anglais et espagnol |
| 17:23.59 | spectie | ;) |
| 17:24.00 | PeepOle | Merhaba |
| 17:24.00 | freebsdgirl | might as well make it open invite. |
| 17:24.04 | lh | if under 21, i say we feed them strawberry lemondate and tell 'em to keep their noses clean |
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| 17:24.07 | spectie | et un peu de catalan |
| 17:24.08 | PeepOle | Herkes Türkçe KonuÅuyor? |
| 17:24.09 | lh | Lennie: many thanks |
| 17:24.14 | spectie | PeepOle, lol you're using MT ? |
| 17:24.16 | freebsdgirl | as soon as i get the date from mr. percival, we're going to start planning a new one. |
| 17:24.24 | borja | spectie: pas du basque? |
| 17:24.25 | freebsdgirl | sighs. |
| 17:24.35 | PeepOle | Hayır ben çok çok dilli duyuyorum. |
| 17:24.38 | spectie | borja, nisiquiera una palabra :P |
| 17:24.39 | scorche | <freebsdgirl> lh: we have to get scorche at our next party. |
| 17:24.40 | PeepOle | Ben bir yeteneÄim var. |
| 17:24.44 | spectie | PeepOle, stop that |
| 17:24.45 | scorche | give me a day and time |
| 17:24.52 | scorche | and a futon for after |
| 17:24.53 | freebsdgirl | scorche: i should have a day/time in about a week and a half |
| 17:24.58 | freebsdgirl | it'll probably be 3-4 weeks from now. |
| 17:25.02 | PeepOle | пÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
| 17:25.03 | spectie | PeepOle, no hagas el tonto |
| 17:25.03 | lh | freebsdgirl: very nice. we could be super happy dev house the untold story for sunnyvale. |
| 17:25.16 | freebsdgirl | and the futon will be taken up by someone else (sigh), but we have a pullout couch and a chair that lh and i have both crashed in from time to time |
| 17:25.22 | PeepOle | ÐÑбÑе ÑоÑÑийÑкие ÑебÑÑа здеÑÑ? |
| 17:25.27 | freebsdgirl | gah. |
| 17:25.27 | rkatiyar | umm |
| 17:25.27 | PeepOle | : P |
| 17:25.28 | freebsdgirl | stop that. |
| 17:25.32 | PeepOle | Ñ
оÑоÑо |
| 17:25.36 | PeepOle | ÐÑ
sooryy |
| 17:25.36 | rkatiyar | how do u read that in french :P |
| 17:25.41 | spectie | PeepOle, |
| 17:25.44 | borja | spectie: I'm reminded of a student we had here who wrote his dissertation on a phoneme recognition algorithm for mandarin chinese, but he himself had no idea of chinese |
| 17:25.46 | spectie | PeepOle, speaking other languages is fine |
| 17:25.53 | freebsdgirl | charset fail. |
| 17:25.58 | spectie | PeepOle, but don't just paste machine translation output into the channel please |
| 17:26.01 | ajuonline | i am 26,am I allowed ? :P |
| 17:26.05 | spectie | freebsdgirl, /charset utf-8 :) |
| 17:26.09 | rkatiyar | yes sir sure are |
| 17:26.13 | spectie | borja, haha |
| 17:26.19 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: if you can make it to california :) |
| 17:26.21 | lh | freebsdgirl: we also have a lot of camping equipment. hacker camp freebsdgirl and lh ftw? |
| 17:26.23 | scorche | freebsdgirl: hrm...well, we will have to see then...last weekend/this would have been nice, as it was spring break, but i can look at my schedule to see if i can get out there for just the weekend |
| 17:26.27 | lh | we will have showers. |
| 17:26.29 | spectie | borja, the guys who worked on the new written standard for cornish were american and german :D |
| 17:26.29 | lh | ++ |
| 17:26.40 | PeepOle | :O |
| 17:26.42 | freebsdgirl | lh: hacker camp - like in our back yard? |
| 17:26.43 | borja | spectie: haha |
| 17:26.51 | lh | freebsdgirl: yes. why not? |
| 17:26.52 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: lh promised me she is gonna come to india soon :P |
| 17:26.53 | freebsdgirl | we have a hella big place. we didn't even come close to filling it at the last party, and that was ~30 people. |
| 17:26.56 | spectie | borja, mostly because the cornish guys just couldn't agree :D |
| 17:27.07 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: if she comes to india, i am *so* going with her. |
| 17:27.12 | freebsdgirl | i want to go shopping in india. |
| 17:27.16 | lh | freebsdgirl: exactly. think of it as a test run for the costa rican hacker colony. i will make the drinks. |
| 17:27.22 | freebsdgirl | lh: killer. |
| 17:27.24 | lh | wanders off for a bit |
| 17:27.27 | ajuonline | yay, i can take you both on an india tour |
| 17:27.27 | rkatiyar | freebsdgirl goes out with girls :) |
| 17:27.40 | freebsdgirl | rkatiyar: freebsdgirl is a girl, so that makes sense. |
| 17:27.52 | rkatiyar | yeah it does ;) |
| 17:28.02 | freebsdgirl | ajuonline: i've heard tha it's possible to get beautiful fabric in india very cheap |
| 17:28.13 | rkatiyar | yup sure |
| 17:28.15 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: yup, my dads into that business, |
| 17:28.20 | ajuonline | somewhat related to that |
| 17:28.32 | rkatiyar | u can buy cheap leather too |
| 17:28.38 | freebsdgirl | not so much into leather |
| 17:28.42 | grub | you can get beautiful anything, in india for cheap :p |
| 17:29.12 | rkatiyar | i thought this was gsoc channel right ? |
| 17:29.12 | PeepOle | What!!! |
| 17:29.15 | freebsdgirl | i've been buying some cute stuff lately from turkey. chess set, pottery, etc. but i want fabric from india. and maybe a rug. not sure how fun that's going to be to ship back, though. |
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| 17:29.46 | freebsdgirl | rkatiyar: trying to keep a channel on a specific subject all the time is like trying to herd around a bunch of ADD 5 year olds. not just gsoc, but any channel. |
| 17:29.48 | grub | rkatiyar, yes, and you're socializing, right |
| 17:29.56 | PeepOle | freebsdgirl: hi |
| 17:30.01 | freebsdgirl | hello! |
| 17:30.08 | rkatiyar | hi grub |
| 17:30.09 | allman | freebsdgirl: there are lots of indian fabric stores up in Berkeley, I Iove fabric shopping! |
| 17:30.12 | grub | heya ;) |
| 17:30.15 | rkatiyar | i love socializing |
| 17:30.21 | PeepOle | freebsdgirl: seen your blog. You looking cool |
| 17:30.26 | freebsdgirl | allman: oh yeah? at some point i'll have to check that out. want to go? |
| 17:30.27 | PeepOle | :) |
| 17:30.38 | freebsdgirl | PeepOle: er, thanks! heh. |
| 17:30.39 | grub | i thought people liked more of indian spices than fabric, but i guess was wrong. |
| 17:30.45 | freebsdgirl | allman: i still haven't been up to berkeley at all. |
| 17:30.49 | lh | allman: all hail! how are you this morning. |
| 17:30.55 | lh | freebsdgirl: we need to fix that. used to be my town. |
| 17:30.56 | allman | But you are correct - this channel is for discussing GSoC, so we'll talk about fabric offline. |
| 17:31.04 | freebsdgirl | ok. :) |
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| 17:31.09 | allman | lh: fine thanks |
| 17:31.30 | allman | Freebsdgirl: I love the fabric hunting and gathering! Any time! |
| 17:31.41 | PeepOle | freebsdgirl: You will be coming to India? |
| 17:31.43 | lh | allman: groovy. |
| 17:31.47 | lh | gets back to work |
| 17:31.56 | Landon | summatusmentis: 900 |
| 17:32.06 | allman | lh Indded - bye all, I'm back to lurking. |
| 17:32.09 | freebsdgirl | PeepOle: someday, maybe. |
| 17:32.16 | freebsdgirl | back to cleaning. later all! |
| 17:32.20 | lh | allman: kk |
| 17:32.20 | scorche | freebsdgirl: i think i have some free airfare saved up, so you really should let me know =P |
| 17:32.22 | lh | freebsdgirl: kk |
| 17:32.26 | ajuonline | freebsdgirl: shipping from India. would still be cheaper I am sure |
| 17:32.43 | brlcad | cya freebsdgirl |
| 17:33.06 | ahassany | ping lh |
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| 17:33.22 | lh | ahassany: pong i got your email. i can't look at it now. can it wait a day? |
| 17:34.05 | ahassany | I need it tomorrow, that's mean after 12hours from now |
| 17:34.07 | rkatiyar | ??? |
| 17:34.27 | PeepOle | ahassany is using Ubuntu :) |
| 17:34.28 | ahassany | sorry for that, but they look for my previous employment history |
| 17:34.45 | scorche | PeepOle: tell me you arent going around CTCP-ing people.. |
| 17:34.51 | ahassany | PeepOle,: absolutely yes |
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| 17:34.58 | PeepOle | What is that? CTCP? |
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| 17:35.31 | scorche | it is a lot of things, really.. |
| 17:35.37 | PeepOle | Hey how to do a CTCP? |
| 17:35.44 | lh | ahassany: give me ten minutes |
| 17:35.49 | scorche | points to google |
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| 17:35.51 | rkatiyar | CTCP is client to client protocol |
| 17:35.54 | rkatiyar | i guess ;) |
| 17:36.00 | ahassany | ok, thank you in advance |
| 17:36.02 | impl | PeepOle: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/ctcpspec.html |
| 17:36.20 | lut4rp | PeepOle, don't go around CTCP-ing people |
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| 17:36.30 | rkatiyar | yeah i did a project on IRC server and client last sem |
| 17:36.30 | scorche | i just thought you might have been, as that is a way to see which operating system/client they are using...and it is a faux pas to do that randomly without asking in an IRC channel ;) |
| 17:36.35 | impl | It's okay, I gave him a confusing specification |
| 17:36.42 | PeepOle | ahassany: I just typed your hostname in browser and it says "It works!". Thats how I knew Ubuntu |
| 17:36.43 | scorche | gah!...let the kid do his own googling! |
| 17:37.04 | Landon | is gonna django it now! |
| 17:37.06 | Landon | woooo |
| 17:37.08 | impl | PeepOle: You get that in Debian too :P |
| 17:37.09 | PeepOle | says he is not a Kid anymore |
| 17:37.17 | lut4rp | PeepOle, that does not mean its Ubuntu. |
| 17:37.28 | PeepOle | Well 80% chance its ubuntu |
| 17:37.33 | lut4rp | no. |
| 17:37.35 | lut4rp | not at all. |
| 17:37.37 | scorche | nope |
| 17:37.41 | impl | 80% of all statistics are made up |
| 17:37.44 | lut4rp | it means he's running Apache. |
| 17:37.48 | lut4rp | that too, not sure. |
| 17:37.49 | lut4rp | :) |
| 17:37.55 | impl | It might not even be Apache |
| 17:37.58 | impl | maybe it's a spoof! |
| 17:37.59 | ahassany | PeepOle: It's not polite to digg users hosts and what they are using, it would be better just to ask |
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| 17:38.10 | lut4rp | impl, yeah. I said maybe |
| 17:38.10 | PeepOle | ok ok |
| 17:38.12 | PeepOle | sorry |
| 17:38.13 | lethalhead | hello people |
| 17:38.13 | rkatiyar | it works is too apache and debian |
| 17:38.19 | PeepOle | Just having a bit of fun |
| 17:38.49 | ahassany | PeeplOle: not on others privacy ! |
| 17:38.57 | lethalhead | hi ajuonline |
| 17:39.00 | PeepOle | omg! |
| 17:39.05 | Landon | ahassany: is it privacy if they're publicly broadcasting the information? |
| 17:39.07 | Landon | well |
| 17:39.10 | lh | ahassany: do you want me to do update it with today's date on it? |
| 17:39.10 | Landon | not broadcasting |
| 17:39.12 | Landon | but sending on request |
| 17:39.13 | ahassany | but it's ok for me but other people on this channel might not like that |
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| 17:39.44 | Landon | anyone who configures their client beyond the minimum should know the risks involved |
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| 17:40.05 | ahassany | and my host is really public, and you can always access it on, ahmed.dynup.net |
| 17:40.16 | lh | ahassany: actually, the letter is written correctly |
| 17:40.21 | ahassany | of course as long as I got electricity to run it |
| 17:40.27 | PeepOle | suspects he has stirred a hornet's nest |
| 17:40.29 | lh | he will be required to visit neither nor means will not be required |
| 17:40.40 | lh | so technically it's right, but if it caused confusion i can reword it |
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| 17:40.56 | lh | ahassany: let me know what you want, i need to get back to org review ASAP |
| 17:41.07 | rkatiyar | It Works! |
| 17:41.13 | PeepOle | yeye |
| 17:41.14 | ahassany | Yah it caused confusion on the interview |
| 17:41.29 | lh | ahassany: ok will update it then. today's date or the may 7th date? |
| 17:41.33 | mmadia42 | passes lh some coffee to help with the review process |
| 17:41.46 | lh | mmadia42: thank you |
| 17:41.52 | mmadia42 | :) |
| 17:42.04 | ahassany | sine it updated, I guess it's better to change the date |
| 17:42.11 | lh | ahassany: ok |
| 17:42.14 | rkatiyar | gets back to watching District B13 |
| 17:42.25 | lh | ahassany: and good news about G-Pals! |
| 17:42.57 | PeepOle | rkatiyar: Hi |
| 17:43.06 | ahassany | yah, but unfortunately I might not attend |
| 17:43.21 | lh | ahassany: why not? |
| 17:44.05 | ahassany | G-Pals is free of charge and they open online registration form, that means they got a hundreds of application which mean I got a small chance to be invited |
| 17:44.16 | PeepOle | rkatiyar: How's everything at IIT Kanpur ? :) |
| 17:44.23 | ahassany | can you help me with that? |
| 17:44.41 | lh | ahassany: i can try email me the details |
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| 17:45.23 | lh | ahassany: sent |
| 17:45.26 | ahassany | ok I will do it tomorrow, It's your weekend on the US? |
| 17:45.28 | lh | goes back to org review |
| 17:45.35 | lh | ahassany: yes it is. :) |
| 17:46.12 | ahassany | you absolutely got a lot of work to work on the weekend, good luck ;-) |
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| 17:46.36 | lynxlynxlynx | ahassany: plus the irc distraction ;) |
| 17:46.37 | ahassany | and sorry for interrupting your weekend |
| 17:47.06 | lh | ahassany: all good. :) |
| 17:48.57 | ahassany | thanks again |
| 17:49.06 | ahassany | salam |
| 17:49.12 | ahassany | salam = bye in arabic |
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| 17:49.55 | PeepOle | Ù
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| 17:50.07 | PeepOle | :D |
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| 17:50.27 | lynxlynxlynx | nice |
| 17:50.36 | lynxlynxlynx | properly RTL too |
| 17:50.37 | PeepOle | bows |
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| 17:53.33 | lethalhead | ajuonline: ola |
| 17:54.36 | lethalhead | ajuonline: u there? |
| 17:54.46 | lethalhead | ajuonline: not at ur desk? |
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| 17:55.14 | ajuonline | lethalhead: dude, you can pm me :) |
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| 17:55.27 | ahassany | PeepOle: are you arab |
| 17:55.28 | ajuonline | sorry, i was telling him how to use irc :) |
| 17:55.38 | spectie | ahassany, no, he's just pasting MT output |
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| 17:56.02 | MatthewWilkes | oops |
| 17:56.06 | spectie | o__O |
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| 17:58.49 | PeepOle | spectie: You will be a student or a mentor? |
| 17:59.00 | spectie | i'm hoping to be a mentor |
| 17:59.18 | pygi | spectie wouldn't be a good mentor |
| 17:59.19 | pygi | he's evil |
| 17:59.24 | spectie | wtf D: |
| 18:01.10 | pygi | spectie, not a good reaction to joke |
| 18:01.13 | pygi | just proves my point |
| 18:01.14 | pygi | :p |
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| 18:01.26 | impl | hoho buckets |
| 18:01.28 | VDVsx | ajuonline, you speak Portuguese ? |
| 18:01.30 | spectie | (( |
| 18:01.59 | ajuonline | VDVsx: no. but what makes you think so? :/ |
| 18:02.28 | PeepOle | spectie: hehe I saw your pic on wikipedia. Is that really you? |
| 18:02.29 | VDVsx | ajuonline, because you said "ola" :) lol |
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| 18:02.37 | ajuonline | pygi wouldnt be a good mentor as well, coz hes nuts! |
| 18:02.55 | spectie | PeepOle, yes |
| 18:02.56 | pygi | ajuonline, I used to mentor three students when I was in kindergarten |
| 18:02.59 | pygi | so quiet xD |
| 18:03.06 | PeepOle | spectie: You are cool :) |
| 18:03.11 | spectie | thanks! :D |
| 18:03.12 | ajuonline | proves my point, you are nuts :P |
| 18:03.13 | rohananil | hi pygi , long time :) |
| 18:03.16 | spectie | let's hope GSOC think so too :P |
| 18:03.25 | pygi | rohananil, I know you from where? What? :D |
| 18:03.34 | rohananil | aah :) , last year |
| 18:03.43 | ajuonline | puts a bucket of cold water on pygi and runs |
| 18:03.52 | pygi | I met a lot of people last year. Bit more precise pls? :D |
| 18:03.58 | pygi | that guy I bugged for libburnia perhaps? |
| 18:04.06 | pygi | ajuonline, awwwwwwww |
| 18:04.10 | rohananil | hehe , pygi let me remember :) |
| 18:04.28 | rohananil | opensuse :) |
| 18:04.32 | ajuonline | i want a program that just reads my mind, and types up my report. |
| 18:04.37 | pygi | ah, yes! rohananil, you did what? :D |
| 18:05.00 | PeepOle | spectie: I am more interested in machine learning (recommender systems and the likes) but I am thinking of applying for Apertium too :) |
| 18:05.08 | spectie | PeepOle, cool |
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| 18:05.12 | spectie | machine-learning is great |
| 18:05.23 | ajuonline | apertium is kool. so is sahana :) |
| 18:05.27 | spectie | you can use machine learning for all kinds of stuff... like learning translation rules! |
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| 18:06.15 | PeepOle | spectie: I will start looking at apertium tonight. |
| 18:06.32 | spectie | PeepOle, just feel free to ask any questions here or in #apertium |
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| 18:08.15 | pygi | rohananil, if you are normal, then I am so glad I am nuts! |
| 18:08.24 | pygi | ups |
| 18:08.29 | pygi | rohananil, that was for ajuonline :p |
| 18:08.35 | pygi | ajuonline, , if you are normal, then I am so glad I am nuts! |
| 18:08.57 | rohananil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:12.19 | pygi | ajuonline, aha, speechless! |
| 18:12.31 | ajuonline | pygi: hang on, dinner. |
| 18:12.41 | pygi | excuses excuses! |
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| 18:12.50 | Landon | fails at non-teflon pans |
| 18:13.00 | Landon | I even greased it this time :( |
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| 18:21.00 | Landon | ohi tcoppi |
| 18:21.09 | ranjith | hi |
| 18:21.23 | tcoppi | oh hi |
| 18:21.31 | ranjith | ajuonline: where are you from..? |
| 18:23.46 | ajuonline | ranjith: India |
| 18:23.57 | ajuonline | pygi: i am super nuts. :P |
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| 18:24.04 | ajuonline | i still win. |
| 18:24.10 | pygi | ajuonline, I am normal then |
| 18:24.13 | ajuonline | you are just a _kid_ |
| 18:24.17 | pygi | cause we're clearly two different worlds |
| 18:24.17 | ajuonline | :D |
| 18:24.21 | pygi | well, yea, I am |
| 18:24.23 | Lennie | ajuonline, watches good TV Shows :) |
| 18:24.26 | pygi | and damn proud of being a kid |
| 18:24.30 | ajuonline | yAy! |
| 18:24.33 | ajuonline | pygi: ^ |
| 18:24.48 | pygi | sometimes I can be rather smart kid too ;) |
| 18:24.52 | Landon | :P |
| 18:24.52 | ajuonline | pygi: i am a 16 year old grown up, now what??? :P |
| 18:24.58 | ranjith | ajuonline: me too is from india.. where are you in india? |
| 18:25.04 | ajuonline | ranjith: my room. |
| 18:25.21 | ajuonline | ranjith: close to delhi |
| 18:25.31 | ranjith | ajuonline: oho me too is from my room.. |
| 18:25.52 | ajuonline | no you said, where are *you* in india. |
| 18:25.53 | ranjith | ajuonline: but its not that much close to delhi.. |
| 18:26.07 | ajuonline | pygi: admit it, i win. |
| 18:26.17 | pygi | ajuonline, you win |
| 18:26.36 | pygi | admit it, you didn't expect this one coming :) |
| 18:26.50 | ajuonline | pygi: ha ha . no i didnt |
| 18:26.59 | ajuonline | pygi: i thought you would type "i win" |
| 18:27.05 | ajuonline | but #fail, you are not smart! ;) |
| 18:27.12 | ajuonline | dances |
| 18:27.18 | pygi | I said sometimes! |
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| 18:27.29 | pygi | don't put words in my mouth you snail! |
| 18:27.34 | ajuonline | =)) |
| 18:27.42 | Lennie | all this talking about winning |
| 18:27.45 | Lennie | I just lost the game :( |
| 18:27.47 | pygi | but I'm eating! |
| 18:27.50 | ajuonline | which game? |
| 18:27.51 | pygi | so shut up :p |
| 18:28.16 | Landon | I WIN |
| 18:28.19 | impl | ajuonline: Don't ask! |
| 18:28.22 | Landon | there |
| 18:28.24 | Landon | I settled it |
| 18:28.36 | ajuonline | Landon: it was already settled. i won. |
| 18:28.39 | ajuonline | intruder* |
| 18:29.05 | ajuonline | are there any ip cams, of street view up online? |
| 18:29.19 | Lennie | ajuonline, http://www.losethegame.com/ |
| 18:29.21 | Lennie | something like that |
| 18:29.45 | ajuonline | geeky :P |
| 18:30.21 | impl | Lennie: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41p1RuqjL5L._SS500_.jpg |
| 18:30.40 | Lennie | damn |
| 18:30.43 | Lennie | I just lost the game again :P |
| 18:30.50 | impl | haha |
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| 18:31.00 | impl | s'okay, I had to lose googling for that |
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| 18:31.51 | ajuonline | r0bby: sup |
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| 18:33.15 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Damn it, man! |
| 18:33.22 | Lennie | ? |
| 18:33.29 | MatthewWilkes | the game |
| 18:33.33 | Lennie | you lost it :P? |
| 18:33.41 | MatthewWilkes | yup |
| 18:33.44 | Lennie | damn! |
| 18:33.58 | ajhais | i won :D |
| 18:34.05 | MatthewWilkes | ajhais: nobody wins |
| 18:34.35 | ajhais | okay... lets fix it.. |
| 18:34.39 | ajhais | somebody should win |
| 18:34.40 | ajhais | :P |
| 18:35.29 | Landon | I win! |
| 18:35.53 | danderson | that is not true |
| 18:35.54 | Landon | did they ever get off that damn island in Lost? |
| 18:35.58 | danderson | everyone is always winning |
| 18:36.03 | danderson | right up to the point where they lose |
| 18:36.03 | ajhais | haha |
| 18:36.06 | ajhais | lost |
| 18:36.13 | r0bby | whoa im lagged |
| 18:36.14 | ajhais | they went back to that island again' |
| 18:36.18 | Landon | wtf |
| 18:36.20 | Landon | I've never seen it |
| 18:36.21 | Landon | but wtf |
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| 18:36.26 | gustavojordan | Hi , I have a question my project of student may be accepted for the organization and Google? My project www.debianzine.org |
| 18:36.41 | lut4rp | just ended Lost Season 3 yesterday |
| 18:36.43 | Landon | hurry up and finish the dang show so I can see the show without regret |
| 18:36.52 | Landon | I dont want to be hanging on each episode :( |
| 18:36.52 | lut4rp | is now downloading Season 4 now. |
| 18:36.56 | Landon | I want to binge |
| 18:37.00 | ajhais | i dont think it will get over in years |
| 18:37.03 | Landon | kinda like The Office |
| 18:37.03 | Landon | heh |
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| 18:37.08 | lut4rp | Landon, its speculated to end in 2010 |
| 18:37.10 | Lennie | hands Landon a bottle of Scotch |
| 18:37.16 | lut4rp | as per Wikipedia AFAIK |
| 18:37.22 | Landon | lut4rp: oh well, I've still got BSG to start soonish! |
| 18:37.23 | ajhais | i dont see it that way.. |
| 18:37.33 | ajhais | there are many unexplained things |
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| 18:37.38 | lut4rp | yes, there are :/ |
| 18:37.55 | lut4rp | On May 7, 2007, ABC Entertainment President Stephen McPherson announced that Lost will end during the 2009?2010 season with a "highly anticipated and shocking finale." |
| 18:37.55 | Landon | and then everyone gets bored and it's cut before the last ep that reveals all secrets |
| 18:37.56 | Landon | :) |
| 18:38.16 | ajhais | haha |
| 18:38.39 | Landon | Eureka is due this summer, isn't it? |
| 18:38.45 | lut4rp | i'd like to know what-the-f-is-that-tree-ripper-man-puller thingy |
| 18:38.51 | Landon | WOT |
| 18:38.58 | ajhais | any idea why sawyer and all others are with dharma people now |
| 18:38.59 | ajhais | ? |
| 18:39.08 | lut4rp | they are? |
| 18:39.09 | lut4rp | dunno |
| 18:39.15 | lut4rp | I haven't yet started Season 4 yet. |
| 18:39.24 | lut4rp | err, 2 yets there :/ |
| 18:39.24 | Landon | WOT |
| 18:39.25 | rohananil | i lost interest in lost after season 2 |
| 18:39.34 | ajhais | oh... |
| 18:39.35 | Landon | good thing I'll forget all of this before it ends :) |
| 18:39.41 | lut4rp | Landon, LOL. |
| 18:39.46 | ajhais | lol |
| 18:39.50 | Landon | another bonus |
| 18:39.54 | Landon | by the time I get around to starting it |
| 18:39.59 | Landon | everyone will have lost interest in spoiling it |
| 18:40.00 | Landon | :) |
| 18:40.05 | lut4rp | or as they say it now, "lulz" |
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| 18:40.24 | Landon | lullerskates |
| 18:40.45 | ajhais | any idea when is PB coming back |
| 18:40.47 | ajhais | ? |
| 18:40.53 | lut4rp | PB? |
| 18:40.57 | ajhais | *prison break |
| 18:41.01 | Landon | ewwwwwwwwwwww |
| 18:41.02 | Landon | :P |
| 18:41.04 | lut4rp | ah. |
| 18:41.13 | Landon | I thought it should have ended when they broke out of prison |
| 18:41.14 | Landon | :) |
| 18:41.29 | ajhais | which prison :P |
| 18:41.32 | ajhais | fox river |
| 18:41.34 | ajhais | or sona |
| 18:41.36 | ajhais | :P |
| 18:41.44 | lut4rp | Landon, haha, yeah. |
| 18:41.45 | Landon | the first one! |
| 18:41.46 | Landon | obviously |
| 18:42.27 | ajhais | they dont have any more prisons to break it seems.. so they re gonna end it with this season |
| 18:42.29 | ajhais | :P |
| 18:42.35 | Landon | heh |
| 18:42.39 | Landon | speaking of prison breaks |
| 18:42.44 | Landon | who here likes chronicles of riddick? :) |
| 18:42.50 | Landon | (the series) |
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| 18:48.56 | lh | goes for late breakfast with freebsdgirl |
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| 18:50.01 | ajuonline | that makes me hungry again, altough i just had dinner |
| 18:50.13 | jpirie23 | same actually |
| 18:50.16 | jpirie23 | damn that lh :p |
| 18:50.18 | excid3 | lol, yeah im going to go get some taco bell now |
| 18:50.28 | jpirie23 | mm tacos |
| 18:51.05 | Lennie | taco taco taco |
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| 18:51.14 | Lennie | thanks for putting a southpark episode back into my mind :P |
| 18:51.25 | ajuonline | Lennie: south park is kool ? |
| 18:51.27 | excid3 | :D |
| 18:51.36 | Lennie | the new season started brilliantly :D |
| 18:51.53 | Lennie | Copyright on Mickey Mouse ended so they abused it :D |
| 18:51.55 | ajuonline | Lennie: i will start watching it, if you say its kool :P |
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| 18:52.10 | Lennie | ajuonline, you should watch House MD :P |
| 18:52.15 | Lennie | sarcasm ftw |
| 18:52.27 | jpirie23 | house ftw |
| 18:52.33 | ajuonline | :/ |
| 18:52.35 | jpirie23 | season 4 ending was awesome |
| 18:52.53 | ajuonline | i'd rather start BSG |
| 18:52.58 | Lennie | ? |
| 18:53.37 | Lennie | Monk is underrated :0 |
| 18:53.44 | Lennie | what is BSG ajuonline? |
| 18:53.59 | ajuonline | battle star galagtica |
| 18:54.00 | jpirie23 | monk also ftw lol. it's only on in the day i can never catch it |
| 18:54.01 | Lennie | k |
| 18:54.12 | rohananil | anyone legend of the seeker ? |
| 18:54.16 | Lennie | BSG is nice :) |
| 18:54.30 | ajuonline | i am a legend, and a sekeker. if that counts. |
| 18:54.35 | Lennie | I hate it that SG:A and SG:1 have ended :( |
| 18:54.36 | ajuonline | seeker* |
| 18:54.51 | Lennie | ajuonline, I didnt know you played quidditch |
| 18:55.14 | rohananil | he is the true seeker( ajuonline ) |
| 18:55.33 | Lennie | sorry rohananil, dont know that show |
| 18:55.50 | ajuonline | wtf, two lizards making out, and one fell on my chair. and that scared me for a while |
| 18:55.55 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: There's SG:G coming soon though |
| 18:55.56 | ajuonline | ewww |
| 18:56.14 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes: Ripoff from SG:Voy apparently |
| 18:56.36 | MatthewWilkes | err, SG:U |
| 18:56.38 | Lennie | and I dont know if they can capture either SG:1 awesomeness, or SG:A humor :) |
| 18:56.43 | Lennie | *ST:Voy |
| 18:56.57 | Lennie | Rodney McKay is Awesome :D |
| 18:57.11 | MatthewWilkes | SG:1 was brilliant, I keep expecting carter to break down in laughter |
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| 18:57.32 | Lennie | hehe |
| 18:58.02 | bn2vs | DR. WEIR: Download it to a non-networked, firewalled computer. |
| 18:58.02 | bn2vs | TECHNICIAN: Yes, ma'am. |
| 18:58.06 | bn2vs | lol :d |
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| 18:58.33 | Lennie | bn2vs :) |
| 18:58.52 | MatthewWilkes | VOY: "He's using a binary format, it'll take time to convert our trinary systems to interface with it" |
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| 18:59.13 | MatthewWilkes | Later VOY episode in the same series: "Their [VOY's] computers use a simple binary system" |
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| 18:59.34 | MatthewWilkes | That annoyed me much more than it should |
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| 19:00.16 | PeepOle | is being annoyed more than he should :( |
| 19:00.48 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, omg I remember that episode |
| 19:00.58 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, it annoyed me as well :p |
| 19:01.30 | summatusmentis | Landon> summatusmentis: 900 |
| 19:01.36 | summatusmentis | is the keyboard annoying? |
| 19:01.43 | Landon | nah |
| 19:01.44 | Landon | well |
| 19:01.50 | Landon | other than some gunk stuck under it :P |
| 19:01.55 | Landon | but thats not the 900s fault |
| 19:02.02 | Landon | is getting a bit of a sticky spacebar from said gunk |
| 19:02.03 | Landon | :( |
| 19:02.10 | Landon | I need to get transitioned to the alphagrip |
| 19:02.12 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, isn't that the episode where they are 'inspected' by some other race that came from earth as lizzards? |
| 19:02.17 | summatusmentis | alphagrip? |
| 19:02.29 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, where they use the holodeck to simulate the evolution process |
| 19:02.47 | Landon | summatusmentis: www.alphagrip.com iirc |
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| 19:03.24 | summatusmentis | oh that's weird, I don't like that |
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| 19:03.49 | Landon | ;p |
| 19:04.16 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Yep, the saurians |
| 19:04.27 | Lennie | :) |
| 19:04.32 | Lennie | my memory did not fail :p |
| 19:04.42 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: The former one was the one with the timeship that falls back to our time |
| 19:04.48 | Lennie | yosh |
| 19:04.56 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: The time ship which, incidentally, has been reused as a borg ship and Kes's ship too |
| 19:04.59 | MatthewWilkes | bloody cheapskates |
| 19:05.06 | Lennie | cheap but brilliant series |
| 19:05.15 | Lennie | did you watch the new trailer for the new ST movie yet? |
| 19:07.41 | MatthewWilkes | Only with the sound off, was at work |
| 19:07.45 | MatthewWilkes | Looks a bit shiny |
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| 19:08.31 | joshp | is there a list of projects yet? |
| 19:08.47 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Looks like the odd numbered curse is ending :) |
| 19:08.53 | Ori_B | joshp: that comes out on the 18th |
| 19:08.57 | Ori_B | !timeline |
| 19:08.57 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 19:09.24 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, didn't that curse got proven wrong with the bad reception of the last ST? |
| 19:09.40 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: True :) |
| 19:09.43 | MatthewWilkes | Nemesis was awful |
| 19:09.49 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes: It sure is shiney, I kinda like the dark approach in this movie |
| 19:10.04 | MatthewWilkes | When will people learn to stop bloody copying roman mythology so blatently, it doesn't make you look clever |
| 19:10.10 | Lennie | ^_^ |
| 19:10.29 | MatthewWilkes | Like Harry Potter, "Remus Lupin"? Oh, gee, JK Rowling, could be be a werewolf? |
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| 19:11.37 | Ori_B | MatthewWilkes: ...it's not just Remus that's related to werewolves. "Lupin" is another name for "Wolfsbane", IIRC |
| 19:11.45 | Ori_B | supposedly used to identify werewolves. |
| 19:12.00 | Landon | heh |
| 19:12.02 | MatthewWilkes | Ori_B: Indeed, wolves are Canis Lupus |
| 19:12.02 | Landon | <3 used books |
| 19:12.08 | Landon | a plane ticket stub just fell out |
| 19:12.10 | kendrick | dude. darth vader. |
| 19:12.10 | Landon | for DFW |
| 19:12.15 | kendrick | "dark father." |
| 19:12.35 | kendrick | wanders to be a father who makes breakfast. cya :) |
| 19:12.38 | MatthewWilkes | kendrick: True, true |
| 19:13.11 | Landon | too bad it doesnt show the year |
| 19:13.14 | Landon | looks a little old though |
| 19:13.26 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes: Those kind of names are cool to use, but sure if you think they give too much away. I find them usefull for setting a certain atmosphere while you are reading |
| 19:13.43 | Landon | heh |
| 19:13.49 | Landon | I read the second book first, unknowingly |
| 19:13.59 | Landon | because the description said draco and I was all like THAT MEANS DRAGON |
| 19:14.19 | Lennie | hehe |
| 19:14.20 | Ori_B | heh. |
| 19:14.30 | Ori_B | IMO, Harry Potter isn't bad at all |
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| 19:14.36 | Ori_B | but it doesn't live up to the hype. |
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| 19:14.53 | Lennie | Ori_B, I was expecting something more from it as well |
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| 19:15.52 | Landon | I got started on it before I knew what hype was |
| 19:15.53 | Landon | <3 |
| 19:16.11 | lynxlynxlynx | Ori_B: does anything live up to the hype? |
| 19:16.19 | MatthewWilkes | Ori_B: Oh no, it's not bad, but it's certainly worse than many books that people never read |
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| 19:17.23 | Ori_B | MatthewWilkes: exactly. |
| 19:17.32 | dmitrig01 | 's brother is begging him to read harry potter |
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| 19:17.54 | Landon | dmitrig01: go for it |
| 19:17.55 | Landon | good stuff |
| 19:18.06 | dmitrig01 | i've read them myself |
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| 19:18.23 | summatusmentis | owns all of them |
| 19:18.38 | MatthewWilkes | I've read all of them, but only my sister's copy, not bought them |
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| 19:19.06 | lynxlynxlynx | if you like d&d fantasy, I suggest Elaine Cunningham |
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| 19:19.38 | lut4rp | read the 4-7th Harry Potters on the day of the release, before nightfall :D |
| 19:19.47 | lynxlynxlynx | drow, magic, the illithid and no drizzt :) |
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| 19:21.12 | xorAxAx | does anybody have an overview over the current bgp level netsplit? |
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| 19:22.00 | cjhopman | if you like any fantasy, i suggest brandon sanderson |
| 19:22.12 | Landon | prefers scifi |
| 19:22.22 | Landon | but I already have a 100+ book backlog waiting for me at the dorms |
| 19:22.23 | Landon | :) |
| 19:22.44 | summatusmentis | 100+? christ |
| 19:22.56 | Landon | well |
| 19:22.58 | Landon | more like 150 books |
| 19:23.10 | Landon | but some of them I'm going to take to the used bookstore |
| 19:23.31 | summatusmentis | wait, backlog means things you haven't read? |
| 19:23.33 | Landon | some fantasy that doesnt look appealing and some stuff like "star trek: log nine" |
| 19:23.37 | Landon | right |
| 19:23.47 | summatusmentis | why would you take them to the used book store? |
| 19:24.07 | Landon | er |
| 19:24.15 | Landon | I meant the 150-$BACKLOGGED books |
| 19:24.19 | Landon | I 'll probably be taking to the book store |
| 19:24.29 | summatusmentis | I'm lost |
| 19:24.31 | summatusmentis | whatever :) |
| 19:24.43 | Landon | I got 80 books a while back for like 20 |
| 19:24.43 | summatusmentis | 150 books you haven't read, that you're taking to the book store? |
| 19:24.46 | bn2vs | I have like about 100 startrek and starwars bookz :p |
| 19:24.46 | Landon | not all of them are keeperrs |
| 19:25.01 | Landon | 150-$BACKLOGGED I'm taking |
| 19:25.02 | Landon | :P |
| 19:25.13 | Landon | eval(150-$BACKLOGGED) |
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| 19:29.32 | gustavojordan | This year will have GHOPC? |
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| 19:31.00 | summatusmentis | what is GHOPC? |
| 19:31.06 | summatusmentis | do you mean GHOP? |
| 19:31.13 | gustavojordan | Google High Open Contest |
| 19:31.49 | gustavojordan | http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 19:32.12 | gustavojordan | http://code.google.com/intl/en/opensource/ghop/2007-8/ |
| 19:32.14 | summatusmentis | oh, I've only ever heard of it called GHOP |
| 19:32.18 | Lennie | *Google Higly Open Participation Contest |
| 19:32.32 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 19:32.42 | Lennie | the abbreviation usually used is indeed GHOP |
| 19:32.55 | Lennie | I think because it sounds better then GHOPC :P |
| 19:33.04 | straydawg | Google house of pancakes |
| 19:33.07 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 19:33.13 | straydawg | sounds GREAT |
| 19:33.13 | summatusmentis | I'd much rather have that happen |
| 19:33.17 | WinterMute | mmm, pancakes |
| 19:33.26 | straydawg | idd |
| 19:33.26 | summatusmentis | Lennie: I assume GHOP is dependent on melange support? |
| 19:33.30 | Lennie | yosh |
| 19:33.43 | Lennie | support for GHOP is not in yet |
| 19:33.44 | Lennie | but will be |
| 19:33.49 | summatusmentis | and is melange going to support it? :-P |
| 19:33.52 | amit8-88 | tries #ghop |
| 19:34.04 | Lennie | yes summatusmentis |
| 19:34.08 | Lennie | that's the whole point of Melange |
| 19:34.14 | summatusmentis | gustavojordan: I would then guess that ghopc will happen, although I don't know that anything has been announced |
| 19:34.16 | Lennie | being able to run GSoC and GHOP like contests L:) |
| 19:34.19 | Lennie | or events |
| 19:34.22 | summatusmentis | Lennie: i know, that was mostly a joke :-D |
| 19:34.22 | amit8-88 | no luck :-( |
| 19:35.01 | Lennie | lh: Any idea if and when GHOP will be run, question from gustavojordan |
| 19:35.41 | summatusmentis | last year ended on Feb 4 |
| 19:36.43 | summatusmentis | that's what I thought, usually before SoC |
| 19:36.57 | Lennie | not this year apparently :) |
| 19:37.11 | summatusmentis | right |
| 19:37.27 | summatusmentis | I think I remember someone in melange talking about it being ready for GSoC this year, but not GHOP |
| 19:37.30 | gustavojordan | ok, lennie I like very much ghopc. I cannot participation of Google Summer Of Code because I am 16 years. I am from Brazilian as I think an excellent idea the GHOPC |
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| 19:37.38 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: There's no usually, GHOP has only run once as a pilot |
| 19:37.53 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: oh really? |
| 19:37.58 | summatusmentis | I didn't realize that |
| 19:38.00 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: I'm hoping it will start sometime at the end of this year |
| 19:38.05 | Lennie | gustavojordan, all I can say is stay tuned, maybe end of this year |
| 19:38.05 | gustavojordan | Last year I picked up the end more than I do 4 tasks gained USD 100 |
| 19:38.17 | Lennie | gratz :) |
| 19:38.31 | Landon | wha |
| 19:38.34 | Landon | money for tasks? |
| 19:38.36 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed, GHOP is awesome :) |
| 19:38.41 | Landon | could use something like that for the school year |
| 19:38.48 | summatusmentis | Landon: agreed |
| 19:38.57 | Landon | something bitesized for a quick fix |
| 19:39.07 | gustavojordan | Each 3 tasks complete won USD 100 |
| 19:39.13 | Lennie | GHOP is not code only |
| 19:39.26 | Lennie | it also includes task like user experience or manual writing :) |
| 19:39.37 | Landon | still likes the idea for college students :P |
| 19:39.39 | summatusmentis | urgh, manual writing |
| 19:39.49 | gustavojordan | Code,documentation,dissemination |
| 19:39.56 | Landon | have google fund orgs and have them put bounties on bugs/features :) |
| 19:40.01 | Lennie | you have to do simple stuff if you want fresh blood for your OS projects |
| 19:40.21 | summatusmentis | Lennie: I know, but documentation writing is annoying :) |
| 19:40.29 | Lennie | that's why they pay others to do it :P? |
| 19:40.32 | borja | summatusmentis: not for us documentation junkies |
| 19:40.33 | Landon | :P |
| 19:41.14 | gustavojordan | you have to do simple stuff if you want fresh blood for your OS projects |
| 19:41.19 | gustavojordan | The first place if i am not mistaken was earning journey to headquarters of Google |
| 19:41.22 | borja | tries to remember that comparison of documentation with chocolate... or was it sex? or both? |
| 19:41.56 | MatthewWilkes | gustavojordan: Indeed it was, for an awards ceremony |
| 19:41.59 | MatthewWilkes | videos are on youtube |
| 19:42.23 | MatthewWilkes | couldn't make it as it was on the day of his graduation - would have loved to be there as an org rep |
| 19:42.24 | Lennie | I'm sure it will be run again after GSoC has ended, Melange has to support it for some reason :D |
| 19:42.45 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, are you going to be a GSoC mentor this year? |
| 19:42.55 | Landon | borja: everyone wants a lot of it? |
| 19:42.57 | Landon | :) |
| 19:43.12 | summatusmentis | Landon: but no one gets any? |
| 19:43.17 | summatusmentis | goes to cry in the corner :-P |
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| 19:43.21 | Landon | :P |
| 19:43.21 | borja | Landon: something along those lines, yes ;-) I think there was also some bit about how only a few people know how to do it right ;-) |
| 19:43.29 | gustavojordan | yes Mathiasdm |
| 19:43.33 | gustavojordan | yes MatthewWilkes |
| 19:43.38 | Landon | everyone thinks they can do it, but only a few can do it right?? |
| 19:43.51 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Hopefully, I'm org-admin for Plone |
| 19:43.56 | Lennie | k |
| 19:44.11 | summatusmentis | "Documentation is like sex⦠|
| 19:44.13 | summatusmentis | â¦when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." |
| 19:44.27 | summatusmentis | attributed to Dick Brandon, according to google |
| 19:44.38 | gustavojordan | You'd in video of reward MatthewWilkes |
| 19:44.39 | gustavojordan | ? |
| 19:44.40 | ajuonline | now how can kids even relate to that? |
| 19:44.56 | summatusmentis | also "Documentation is like oral sex: When it's good, it's GREAT; and when it's bad, it's still pretty damned good" |
| 19:44.59 | Landon | hehe |
| 19:45.01 | Landon | thats a good one |
| 19:45.05 | borja | haha |
| 19:46.05 | gustavojordan | In the united states to be der legal age , must be 21 years of age? |
| 19:46.16 | summatusmentis | yeah, I'm not seeing anything about a few people doing it right, but I may not be looking in the right place |
| 19:46.21 | summatusmentis | gustavojordan: legal age for what? |
| 19:46.27 | borja | gustavojordan: 21 is the legal drinking age; 18 for pretty much everything else |
| 19:46.50 | gustavojordan | Here the legal age is 18 years, and you can only car with 18 years! |
| 19:47.00 | Lennie | 16 ^_^ |
| 19:47.02 | Lennie | car @ 18 |
| 19:47.03 | summatusmentis | you're legally allowed to drive at 16 here |
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| 19:47.19 | borja | it varies from state to state, though, right? |
| 19:47.22 | Landon | 16 is the legal hibbidy dibbidy age |
| 19:47.22 | gustavojordan | drink is also 18 |
| 19:47.27 | summatusmentis | I don't know that there are rules about ownership of a car |
| 19:47.41 | Landon | unless you're >=18 |
| 19:47.43 | summatusmentis | borja: in terms of legal driving age? Yes, technically, but not really |
| 19:47.48 | gustavojordan | That envy! |
| 19:48.07 | summatusmentis | borja: afaik, all states require you be at least 16 |
| 19:48.16 | summatusmentis | some let you get a driving permit as early as 14 |
| 19:48.25 | Landon | farmers permit++ |
| 19:48.26 | Landon | :) |
| 19:48.38 | gustavojordan | learns-to drive cars in school? |
| 19:48.45 | borja | summatusmentis: I think you can get an instruction permit at 15 here in Illinois |
| 19:48.59 | Landon | was a summer program, not during the school year for me |
| 19:49.02 | summatusmentis | gustavojordan: most states require you take a driver-ed class |
| 19:49.24 | summatusmentis | never took a driving test |
| 19:49.33 | borja | summatusmentis: but just checked and driver's license is also 16 in Illinois; somehow the "driver at 15" sounded familiar here in Illinois |
| 19:49.33 | summatusmentis | but WY changed their laws now |
| 19:50.12 | summatusmentis | borja: permit? |
| 19:50.35 | borja | summatusmentis: permit == you can drive, but there must be a licensed drive age >= 21 with you in the car |
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| 19:50.42 | borja | s/drive/driver |
| 19:50.49 | gustavojordan | You paid more than R$1000.00 in dollar US$3000.00 for entitlement to drive car |
| 19:51.09 | summatusmentis | I took drivers ed in maine, and we moved to WY before I took my drivers test. WY laws said at the time that if you took a drivers ed course, you didn't have to take a driving test, so I turned in my paperwork, and got a license |
| 19:51.17 | summatusmentis | borja: that's how it is in ME too |
| 19:51.34 | summatusmentis | gustavojordan: you have to pay to be allowed to drive? where is this? |
| 19:51.47 | Landon | borja: unless it's to/from school |
| 19:51.52 | borja | got his driver's license here in the US, not in Spain, and thinks the permit-before-license system is great |
| 19:52.04 | Landon | (or on farm related tasks if you ahve a farmers permit) |
| 19:52.08 | summatusmentis | borja: where in Spain are you? |
| 19:52.17 | summatusmentis | Landon: that's state by state rules, I believe |
| 19:52.20 | borja | "In Spain you have to spend tons of money to get your license because you can only drive with a licensed driving instructor |
| 19:52.37 | borja | summatusmentis: I'm from Bilbao, but I've been living in Chicago for the last 4.5 years doing my PhD |
| 19:52.52 | summatusmentis | borja: oh. I'm studying abroad in Sevilla next fall |
| 19:53.00 | summatusmentis | that's why I ask |
| 19:53.04 | borja | summatusmentis: awesome, have you been to Spain before? |
| 19:53.05 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, yes |
| 19:53.19 | Lennie | Chicago is a cool city:D |
| 19:53.24 | summatusmentis | borja: my family and I went for a couple weeks over winter break, but other than that, no |
| 19:53.29 | gustavojordan | Rio de Janeiro is a cool city |
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| 19:54.01 | summatusmentis | I agree, Chicago is a cool city |
| 19:54.03 | gustavojordan | The timbers lee and maddog already came Sao paulo where I live in an event chamdo campus party |
| 19:54.14 | summatusmentis | borja: what school? what are you doing? |
| 19:54.15 | borja | Lennie: yeah, I really like it; I had visited the US lots of times before moving here, but had never visited Chicago |
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| 19:54.30 | borja | summatusmentis: University of Chicago, PhD in Computer Science |
| 19:54.44 | summatusmentis | what specifically? |
| 19:55.18 | borja | summatusmentis: distributed systems; I started off doing grid computing stuff, but my research currently falls under "cloud computing", although I'm not a big fan of buzzwords |
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| 19:55.34 | borja | summatusmentis: to be more specific, I do research on resource management and scheduling with virtual machines |
| 19:55.44 | Lennie | cool |
| 19:55.48 | summatusmentis | cool... do they do any filesystems stuff there? |
| 19:55.56 | gustavojordan | someone has already experienced Richard Stallman? |
| 19:56.21 | borja | no, although the subject of distributed filesystems does come up occasionally in our weekly seminar |
| 19:56.37 | summatusmentis | has his eyes out for filesystems researching schools, for when he applies to PhD programs in a year and a half(ish) |
| 19:57.06 | gustavojordan | ablas espanol? |
| 19:57.09 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, |
| 19:57.17 | borja | summatusmentis: I think the UWisc people (the team that develops the Condor resource manager) have been involved in that kind of stuff |
| 19:57.31 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, speak spanish? |
| 19:57.34 | summatusmentis | gustavojordan: si, pero no tan mejor como los hispanohablantes nativos |
| 19:57.42 | borja | But I'm thinking particularly about distributed filesystems, not "regular" filesystems |
| 19:57.51 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, muy bien |
| 19:58.04 | summatusmentis | gotta bail, cleaning for the gf to come. gustavojordan good luck with your search on GHOP |
| 19:58.08 | summatusmentis | borja: we'll talk later :) |
| 19:58.18 | borja | summatusmentis: sure thing |
| 19:58.35 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, thank |
| 19:58.36 | lyaunzbe | is GHOP ever going to happen again :( |
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| 19:58.57 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, uste mora em que pais? |
| 19:59.21 | gustavojordan | summatusmentis, uste reside en que cidade |
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| 20:00.29 | gustavojordan | Usted atrasos que ciudad de los estados unidos? |
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| 20:05.18 | Lennie | lyaunzbe yes |
| 20:05.29 | Lennie | lyaunzbe, it should :) |
| 20:05.38 | Lennie | Melange is going to support GHOP after GSoC so who knows |
| 20:06.00 | lyaunzbe | Lennie: So probably after the summer? |
| 20:06.32 | Lennie | if it happens it will certainly be after the summer yeah |
| 20:06.41 | Lennie | atleast if they want it to run on Melange :D |
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| 20:06.50 | Lennie | I have no idea what the GOSPO is planning |
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| 20:22.24 | summatusmentis | oh, gustavojordan left |
| 20:22.45 | Landon | I like money |
| 20:22.46 | Landon | I like tshirts |
| 20:22.49 | Landon | I like GSoC |
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| 20:22.58 | Landon | does an obnoxious thumbs up |
| 20:22.59 | summatusmentis | you should start a tshirt company |
| 20:23.00 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 20:23.03 | Landon | :P |
| 20:23.21 | summatusmentis | :-D |
| 20:23.25 | Landon | I am wanting to be starting a gadget and gizmo company |
| 20:23.28 | Landon | at least side business |
| 20:23.37 | Landon | because goodness knows my sysadmin job won't support me through the summer |
| 20:24.00 | Landon | I found out I was Doing It Wrong (tm) last summer |
| 20:24.12 | Landon | and I wasnt supposed to be in the office for X hours / day |
| 20:24.25 | Landon | miscommunications or something |
| 20:24.33 | summatusmentis | borja: you said UWisc does file systems? |
| 20:24.56 | summatusmentis | bug, I feel like a sysadmin job would be really boring |
| 20:24.59 | summatusmentis | buh* |
| 20:25.17 | borja | summatusmentis: I think they were involved in distributed filesystems at one point, let me see if I can find the reference |
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| 20:25.49 | Landon | summatusmentis: its both |
| 20:25.57 | Landon | exciting when I have something to implement |
| 20:26.01 | Landon | boring when I have to do boring stuf |
| 20:26.04 | Landon | like add users |
| 20:26.09 | summatusmentis | Landon: well, yeah, the maintenance aspect would suck |
| 20:26.11 | Landon | fix my bosses home machines |
| 20:26.24 | Landon | teach lusers to checkout with svn |
| 20:26.26 | Landon | etc |
| 20:26.32 | Landon | for grad students they can be pretty clueless |
| 20:26.47 | summatusmentis | ha |
| 20:26.54 | summatusmentis | you work for a school? |
| 20:27.08 | Landon | research group :p |
| 20:27.12 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 20:27.24 | Landon | the main CIS sysadmin offered me a job last semester.. but I refused for some reason |
| 20:27.25 | Landon | :\ |
| 20:27.40 | Landon | he has a bit more clue about whats going on than my current boss, I think I would have liked it a bit more |
| 20:27.42 | summatusmentis | got back and talk to him? |
| 20:27.48 | borja | summatusmentis: ah, ok, I was thinking of the Stork project (http://www.storkproject.org/), but that's a data scheduler, not a filesystem |
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| 20:27.55 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 20:27.59 | summatusmentis | hi lh |
| 20:28.00 | Landon | positions still open :) but I want to conclude things with the current job |
| 20:28.07 | summatusmentis | clears off the free couch |
| 20:28.08 | Landon | at least wait it out until there are more students to help as sysadmin |
| 20:28.12 | Landon | which we should be hiring soon |
| 20:28.12 | borja | summatusmentis: PVFS (Parallel Virtual File System), however, is developed at Argonne National Lab (http://www.pvfs.org/) by people I work with |
| 20:28.24 | Landon | although there will be no dedicated sysadmins anymore, just a few programmers with sysadmin abilities :\ |
| 20:28.33 | lh | summatusmentis: hi |
| 20:29.19 | summatusmentis | borja: that'd have to be something on top of a PhD program right? not affiliated with a specific school |
| 20:29.19 | borja | summatusmentis: off the top of my head, I can't think of other departments that specialize in filesystems |
| 20:29.25 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: dude, back home? |
| 20:29.29 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: yes :) |
| 20:29.38 | ajuonline | aweomse, have fun :) |
| 20:29.47 | borja | summatusmentis: well, graduate students who work at Argonne typically have a primary affiliation with the University of Chicago |
| 20:29.51 | ajuonline | and i am the renowned typo king. |
| 20:29.53 | summatusmentis | borja: There's a filesystems lab at SUNY Stony Brook, and at JHU |
| 20:30.01 | borja | summatusmentis: cool |
| 20:30.06 | summatusmentis | those are the only one's I've found so far |
| 20:30.15 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: it's nice to see the 'rents, yes :-D |
| 20:30.27 | Landon | I don't like rent |
| 20:30.34 | Landon | it clashes with my liking of money |
| 20:30.38 | Landon | unless I'm being paid rent |
| 20:30.40 | summatusmentis | I don't like rent either, but I do like my parents :D |
| 20:31.28 | summatusmentis | wait, there are faculty from varous Uni's listed as on the team |
| 20:31.34 | summatusmentis | looks at these Uni's |
| 20:33.01 | z4chh | im excited to see what orgs got accepted o_o |
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| 20:33.43 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: you need to pay rent? at parents place as well? |
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| 20:34.19 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: no, I do pay rent when I'm at school |
| 20:35.12 | borja | summatusmentis: are you going to be student or mentor in GSoC? |
| 20:35.18 | summatusmentis | borja: student |
| 20:35.25 | summatusmentis | I'm only a sophomore |
| 20:36.33 | borja | summatusmentis: are there filesystem-related orgs? (or do any of the kernel orgs do FS stuff?) |
| 20:36.43 | z4chh | Is there a reason why google capped the students participants this year? |
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| 20:36.46 | summatusmentis | borja: I worked with OpenAFS last year |
| 20:36.52 | devilsadvocate | had a close friend named borja many years ago |
| 20:36.54 | summatusmentis | z4chh: presumably the economy |
| 20:36.54 | borja | summatusmentis: ah, awesome, that make sense |
| 20:37.11 | z4chh | summatusmentis, that is the likely assumption ;p |
| 20:37.15 | summatusmentis | borja: yeah, and assuming they get in again, I don't see any reason why they won't take me again |
| 20:37.19 | borja | z4, presumably it is because of this: http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=INDEXDJX:DJI |
| 20:37.20 | summatusmentis | z4chh: :-D |
| 20:37.21 | ajuonline | anyone uses e17 ? |
| 20:37.27 | zooko | Yeah I saw someone from OpenAFS on this channel this year. |
| 20:37.32 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: I played with it on a Zaurus a while back |
| 20:37.35 | summatusmentis | zooko: who |
| 20:37.36 | summatusmentis | ? |
| 20:37.55 | zooko | Oh wait -- I think it was you. :-) |
| 20:38.03 | summatusmentis | haha, oh, that'd make sense :0D |
| 20:38.04 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: is there an ide/sdk for it to start developing apps? |
| 20:38.05 | summatusmentis | :-D |
| 20:38.13 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: not sure... |
| 20:38.20 | zooko | My org is sort of like a filesystem but it isn't integrated into the kernel except through FUSE. |
| 20:38.29 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: http://enlightenment.org/ |
| 20:38.33 | borja | summatusmentis: I was a mentor and orgadmin for Globus last year (which is based at Argonne). This year I'm hoping to mentor for OpenNebula if they get accepted (their work is more in line with my research). |
| 20:38.48 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: i *know* about that, i am just sleepy right now to open up the browser: P |
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| 20:39.07 | summatusmentis | zooko: I think we had this conversation already :D |
| 20:40.09 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: raster is a cool guy, although he works for OM, so I don't know how much time he spends on e17 |
| 20:40.09 | zooko | looks up OpenNebula |
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| 20:40.27 | ajuonline | chekcs |
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| 20:46.40 | summatusmentis | hrm... lots of distributed systems stuff, less file systems stuff :) |
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| 20:47.56 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: if you were to choose between qt and e17 as a newbie, what would you choose :P |
| 20:48.08 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: I have no idea |
| 20:48.24 | ajuonline | i cant even find a how to get started guide with e17 |
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| 20:48.38 | summatusmentis | the openembedded/openmoko/angstrom people are kinda anti-qt |
| 20:48.47 | summatusmentis | less so maybe on the openmoko side |
| 20:49.07 | ajuonline | for me, right now, i want to get something working soon. |
| 20:49.15 | summatusmentis | yeah, no clue :) |
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| 20:52.28 | devilsadvocate | ajuonline, qt is significantly more stable that e17... on most platforms |
| 20:53.31 | ajuonline | devilsadvocate: yeah, |
| 20:54.48 | summatusmentis | qt has historically had some licensing issues, I think, but I don't know what they were, or anything about them :) |
| 20:55.15 | sid0 | it's LGPL now isn't it |
| 20:55.18 | lynxlynxlynx | yep |
| 20:55.19 | impl | ajuonline: e17 doesn't have any documentation, as far as I'm aware |
| 20:55.26 | impl | at least nothing worthwhile |
| 20:56.05 | impl | that said, I think it's got some pretty neat features |
| 20:56.21 | ajuonline | yes I can look into in then after a month. |
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| 21:02.19 | scorche | wheeeee! |
| 21:02.31 | ajuonline | wooooooo! |
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| 21:02.55 | scorche | got a full 4' x 8' piece of tileboard to mount on a wall and have a massive whiteboard in addition to his other 2 o/ |
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| 21:03.11 | Landon | woot |
| 21:03.13 | kloeri | scorche: nice |
| 21:03.18 | Landon | getting a whiteboard in my office before too long I hope |
| 21:03.45 | scorche | i am a whiteboard whore |
| 21:03.59 | Landon | two, even |
| 21:04.00 | kloeri | heh |
| 21:04.21 | Landon | (makes it even harder to quit, heh ) |
| 21:04.46 | Landon | (along with the planned 47" tv screen and projection screen right infrotn of that that are also planned) |
| 21:05.05 | Landon | in an office smaller than most dorm rooms... I think someone's just trying to burn money |
| 21:05.07 | Landon | :P |
| 21:06.04 | DanParker | sounds awesome |
| 21:06.22 | Landon | it will be |
| 21:06.32 | Landon | I fully intend to bring in a DVD player |
| 21:06.33 | Landon | :P |
| 21:06.43 | Landon | (and hook it up to a door sensor) |
| 21:06.55 | kloeri | haha |
| 21:06.58 | DanParker | i really like glass whiteboards :P |
| 21:07.17 | Landon | :P I dont think I could stand them |
| 21:07.18 | summatusmentis | I've always wanted to make one |
| 21:07.21 | Landon | unless they were really close to a wall |
| 21:08.14 | scorche | DanParker: no |
| 21:08.32 | scorche | take it from someone who is an absolute whiteboard whore....glass whiteboards such |
| 21:08.36 | scorche | s/such/suck |
| 21:08.37 | summatusmentis | glass whiteboards are apparently expensive to make |
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| 21:09.20 | DanParker | but :P |
| 21:09.23 | scorche | well, first off, you have to use the fluorescent dry erase markers to get any kind of decent contrast....second off, they *still* have a worse readability compared to traditional whiteboards |
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| 21:10.07 | scorche | summatusmentis: that too |
| 21:10.28 | summatusmentis | is intrigued by a glass desk/whiteboard :D |
| 21:10.30 | scorche | i got a my 4' x 8' piece of tileboard at Lowe's for $13 |
| 21:10.37 | scorche | $13 |
| 21:10.38 | scorche | =) |
| 21:10.52 | summatusmentis | what is tileboard? |
| 21:11.17 | scorche | cheap white laminate with a gloss coat over MDF |
| 21:11.29 | summatusmentis | oh |
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| 21:12.27 | scorche | they usually use it to put on really cheap bathroom walls |
| 21:12.43 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 21:12.45 | summatusmentis | hrm |
| 21:12.47 | scorche | but it makes an awesome whiteboard material...and seriously...$13 for a 4' x 8' piece |
| 21:13.31 | summatusmentis | hrm... glass still intrigues me :-D |
| 21:13.41 | scorche | you will regret it |
| 21:13.54 | summatusmentis | I shouldn't make a whiteboard, I have no money |
| 21:13.59 | summatusmentis | also, small uses |
| 21:14.14 | scorche | glass has the coolness factor, but they pale in pure usability to this |
| 21:14.29 | scorche | you dont have to "make" one |
| 21:14.35 | summatusmentis | well, usability schmusability |
| 21:14.58 | scorche | i am just screwing this onto a wall...cost: tileboard and a couple screws |
| 21:15.08 | summatusmentis | granted |
| 21:15.44 | scorche | so you get a massive 4' x 8' whiteboard for $15 and a small investment of time |
| 21:15.50 | scorche | beat that =) |
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| 21:16.04 | summatusmentis | glas :-D |
| 21:16.05 | summatusmentis | >_ |
| 21:16.09 | summatusmentis | >_> ** |
| 21:16.22 | summatusmentis | I hate making typos on smiley's |
| 21:16.42 | DanParker | lol, one eyed smiley? |
| 21:16.44 | summatusmentis | less so on words/punctuation :-D |
| 21:16.55 | summatusmentis | DanParker: exatly, if you screw it up, no one gets it |
| 21:17.08 | scorche | fine...you go make a small glass dry-erase board whiole i coat my entire room in this cheap stuff and go all Beautiful Mind on my room |
| 21:17.20 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 21:18.03 | summatusmentis | scorche: if you're covering a whole wall in it, that'd be cool |
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| 21:18.19 | scorche | no...just most of a wall |
| 21:18.31 | scorche | 4' x 8' is larger than it sounds =P |
| 21:18.33 | summatusmentis | I vote all of a wall |
| 21:19.36 | DanParker | forget wall, make a house out of it :) |
| 21:19.58 | summatusmentis | could coat a house in it, I don't know about making a house out of it |
| 21:20.44 | scorche | naw |
| 21:20.59 | summatusmentis | that seems sort of... weak |
| 21:22.06 | DanParker | ok, what about an ideas shed? |
| 21:22.32 | summatusmentis | scorche: tile board, is it a copmressed corkboard thing on the back? |
| 21:23.23 | scorche | summatusmentis: no...MDF |
| 21:23.55 | summatusmentis | hrm |
| 21:23.59 | scorche | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-density_fibreboard |
| 21:25.00 | summatusmentis | yeah, I'm just looking at that |
| 21:26.20 | borja | goes scavenging for sugar and caffeine |
| 21:28.32 | summatusmentis | apparently plexi-glass works too |
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| 21:28.50 | summatusmentis | although not as cool |
| 21:29.01 | scorche | summatusmentis: bah...be practical...go with whiteboard |
| 21:29.09 | summatusmentis | but... but... cool! |
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| 21:29.43 | scorche | 4' x 8' whiteboard is cooler than tiny clear board |
| 21:29.51 | scorche | and much cheaper |
| 21:30.12 | summatusmentis | http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/p4_TechniMobili-Tempered-Glass-L-Desk_168449_Business_Supplies_2_10051_FEATURED:SC2:CG33 |
| 21:30.22 | summatusmentis | imagine writing directly on your desk! |
| 21:30.58 | scorche | yeah...i have a glass desk |
| 21:31.22 | scorche | i typically have...uh...*stuff* on my desk though |
| 21:31.23 | summatusmentis | do it! |
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| 21:32.15 | summatusmentis | psh, stuff |
| 21:32.17 | scorche | why would i write on my desk when i have multiple whiteboards around me? |
| 21:32.29 | summatusmentis | you could draw outlines around your stuff so you know where it goes :-D |
| 21:32.44 | scorche | you obviously havent seen my desk =P |
| 21:33.19 | summatusmentis | haha |
| 21:33.42 | summatusmentis | I have a shitty compressed wood desk, I need a new one |
| 21:34.36 | scorche | summatusmentis: http://squisch.net/dumptruck/organized.jpg |
| 21:34.55 | summatusmentis | how heavy is tileboard? |
| 21:35.04 | summatusmentis | could it be hung without screwing things into a wall? |
| 21:35.16 | scorche | no |
| 21:35.27 | summatusmentis | :-/ |
| 21:35.32 | summatusmentis | rents |
| 21:35.42 | summatusmentis | ooh, XO |
| 21:35.50 | scorche | it is simple to patch a wall.. |
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| 21:36.07 | summatusmentis | my landlady wouldn't like that at all |
| 21:36.29 | summatusmentis | because it's not just drywall, it's like, real wall |
| 21:36.38 | scorche | erm...yeah...i help out (well, used to..not so much anymore besides GSoC) with OLPC |
| 21:37.15 | summatusmentis | I thought you were a different org |
| 21:37.21 | scorche | i am =) |
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| 21:37.36 | scorche | one can be a mentor for multiple orgs... |
| 21:38.36 | summatusmentis | ah, yes |
| 21:38.48 | scorche | i was on the mentor list for Rockbox and OLPC last year, and Rockbox and Sugar Labs this year...though i doubt i will be a primary mentor this year |
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| 21:40.11 | summatusmentis | that's right, Rockbox |
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| 21:52.13 | scorche | am i going crazy, or is than an ice cream truck i hear? |
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| 21:53.20 | smtms | how do you recognise it? |
| 21:53.39 | scorche | i take it you have never heard an ice cream truck? |
| 21:53.52 | ojwb | not on irc |
| 21:54.16 | smtms | never |
| 21:54.26 | z4chh | scorche, i don't hear anything o.o |
| 21:54.33 | Landon | ANYWAYS, the two whiteboards and goodies are gonna make it even harder to quit :((as I was saying before my vps up and left) |
| 21:54.34 | ajuonline | me as well |
| 21:54.45 | Landon | summatusmentis: did you end up with slicehost/linode/grokthis as VPS provideR? |
| 21:55.09 | summatusmentis | Landon: no, I'm w/ paraproc, because I know the guy running it |
| 21:55.18 | r0bby | sighs |
| 21:55.22 | summatusmentis | and it's currently free, until he gets all the bugs worked out :D |
| 21:55.29 | Landon | ah |
| 21:55.40 | scorche | linode++ |
| 21:55.49 | Landon | vpsvillage++ |
| 21:55.50 | Landon | :P |
| 21:55.55 | literal | slicehost++ |
| 21:56.01 | scorche | linode > * |
| 21:56.09 | Landon | you do get what you pay for, but upfront you know what's missing :P (raid and backups) |
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| 21:56.21 | scorche | Landon: they dont have....raid....? |
| 21:56.29 | Landon | not on their vps village stuff |
| 21:56.29 | summatusmentis | see? this is why I wentwith paraproc |
| 21:56.34 | Landon | grokthis has raid |
| 21:56.43 | summatusmentis | also, paraproc has raid |
| 21:56.44 | scorche | how can they not be running raid? |
| 21:56.51 | Landon | but their budget VPS line is without |
| 21:56.57 | Landon | their normal vps line has it |
| 21:57.03 | Landon | but it starts at $20/month |
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| 21:57.07 | Landon | instead of $5/month |
| 21:57.16 | scorche | boggles |
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| 22:35.07 | bn2vs | goes watch atlantis |
| 22:37.10 | devilsadvocate | atlantis? |
| 22:37.19 | bn2vs | stargate |
| 22:37.38 | devilsadvocate | did something new come out? |
| 22:37.53 | straydawg | 23:37 [freenode] -!- #gsoc straydawg H 0 n=beng@atlantis.8hz.com [straydawg] |
| 22:37.57 | straydawg | :) |
| 22:38.04 | straydawg | (not related) |
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| 22:42.06 | Landon | ooh SGA |
| 22:42.14 | bn2vs | yeah |
| 22:42.16 | Landon | I started watching that when it came out |
| 22:42.19 | Landon | but then something happened |
| 22:42.22 | Landon | like we got rid of satellite |
| 22:42.23 | Landon | can't remember what |
| 22:42.24 | Landon | :( |
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| 22:43.55 | tote | is there a list of projects yet? |
| 22:44.04 | lh | !timeline |
| 22:44.05 | socinfo | "timeline" is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 22:44.08 | lh | tote: there you go |
| 22:44.40 | lynxlynxlynx | heh |
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| 22:45.58 | tote | so nothing unofficial until march 18? ;) |
| 22:46.52 | r0bby | sighs |
| 22:46.57 | r0bby | lh: =) |
| 22:47.06 | homunq | better to laugh. |
| 22:47.10 | lh | r0bby: hi. busy. mega-busy. |
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| 22:47.23 | lh | tote: absolutely not. |
| 22:47.45 | lh | tote: but plenty of would-be mentors here, what do you want to work on? |
| 22:48.53 | homunq | notes that lh, even mega busy, still puts us to shame with her clarity and politeness |
| 22:48.58 | spectie | :) |
| 22:49.34 | tote | lh: something involving python would be great :) |
| 22:49.35 | lh | homunq: i just sit here and look slick all day |
| 22:49.40 | lh | tote: excellent. |
| 22:49.50 | lh | pythonistas, you have a willing victim, errr, would be student. |
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| 22:50.01 | tote | haha :) |
| 22:50.10 | homunq | tote: try sugarlabs: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas |
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| 22:50.58 | homunq | lh: we still have you beat in one regard. Too bad it's just flattery, though. |
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| 22:51.28 | tote | homunq: thanks |
| 22:51.45 | VDVsx | tote, python + mobile/embedded : http://wiki.maemo.org/GSoC_2009 |
| 22:51.47 | VDVsx | :) |
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| 22:52.27 | spectie | are we all pimping our projects? |
| 22:52.43 | borja | heh |
| 22:52.55 | borja | tote: do you have any specific interests within Python? |
| 22:53.00 | spectie | i'd pimp mine but we're only tangentially related to python |
| 22:54.05 | r0bby | just saying hi =) |
| 22:56.26 | lh | homunq: um, thank you. :) |
| 22:56.29 | summatusmentis | pimps OpenAFS, despite there being no python at all |
| 22:56.41 | lh | lol @ summatusmentis |
| 22:56.49 | straydawg | :) |
| 22:56.50 | lh | spectie: go ahead and pimp |
| 22:56.54 | borja | pimps OpenNebula, which includes his Haizea project, written entirely in Python |
| 22:57.02 | llnz | tote: Thousand Parsec game project has plenty of python ideas: http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers |
| 22:57.06 | spectie | tote, if you're interested in natural language processing or machine translation http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code |
| 22:57.18 | spectie | we've a couple of things that need python |
| 22:57.28 | lh | sigh |
| 22:57.32 | spectie | and machine translation is about the most exciting thing on the planet |
| 22:57.33 | lh | i am at app 59/395 |
| 22:57.37 | tote | borja: working with web projects, on mobile devices and AI has always interested me, but python makes everything fun to work with :) |
| 22:57.56 | spectie | lh, that's quick! |
| 22:58.26 | spectie | listens to aterciopelados |
| 22:58.28 | homunq | spectie: out of curiosity, what is the tangential relation to python? |
| 22:58.31 | borja | tote: I started writing the implementation for my dissertation in Python mostly because I heard it was good for quick prototyping; I got hooked on it, and now use it for the production version too |
| 22:58.40 | spectie | homunq, we have a couple of tasks that can be done in python |
| 22:58.45 | lh | spectie: not really. |
| 22:58.50 | homunq | you build your corpus out of Basque translations of Monty Python scripts? |
| 22:58.52 | kloeri | lh: I hope you have lots of coffee :) |
| 22:58.55 | spectie | lol homunq |
| 22:58.55 | homunq | :) |
| 22:58.59 | kblin | hey lh |
| 22:59.03 | jasebo | tote: for web projects you could also look at LimeSurvey |
| 22:59.12 | spectie | homunq, did you know borja actually speaks basque?? |
| 22:59.12 | kblin | lh: only 400 apps this year? |
| 22:59.24 | borja | spectie: bai, egia da |
| 22:59.36 | summatusmentis | you speak basque? that's awesome |
| 22:59.44 | homunq | borja: how do you say "this is an ex-parrot"? |
| 22:59.49 | borja | lol |
| 22:59.51 | spectie | SÃ, la verdad es |
| 22:59.52 | spectie | :D |
| 23:00.08 | spectie | hau ez parrot bat da |
| 23:00.16 | spectie | i have no idea :) |
| 23:00.24 | Landon | is thinking of ideas for a good meal |
| 23:00.33 | lh | kblin: pretty much |
| 23:00.37 | lh | kloeri: i do |
| 23:00.37 | borja | spectie: that's pretty close, though; although I'm not sure how to do the "ex-" in basque |
| 23:00.55 | spectie | borja, i know from a song by kortatu :D |
| 23:01.01 | ojwb | wonders why there might be fewer applications |
| 23:01.05 | borja | 's basque is pretty rusty, since he learned it at age 16, not when he was growing up |
| 23:01.05 | spectie | you know 'zulo 9'? |
| 23:01.14 | spectie | "Hau ez da irabazle baten historia" |
| 23:01.21 | lh | ojwb: i think people last year got the idea that niche projects have less chance at success. |
| 23:01.29 | tote | thanks for all the links, got lots to look at now :) |
| 23:01.29 | kloeri | I wouldn't know what to do without coffee - I'd never get anything done that way |
| 23:01.32 | borja | spectie: This is not the story of a winner? |
| 23:01.32 | spectie | thats the test phrase i always use for basque->spanish |
| 23:01.40 | lh | ojwb: and that is also includign total spam apps. this year, no spam. |
| 23:01.41 | spectie | borja, esto no es la historia de un ganador |
| 23:01.42 | spectie | yeah |
| 23:01.45 | lh | or at least not that i have found yet |
| 23:01.46 | kblin | ojwb: scared by the announcement that less orgs are going to be accepted? |
| 23:01.48 | borja | hurrah, MT 0 - Borja 1 |
| 23:01.48 | spectie | borja, you know he song ? |
| 23:01.49 | ojwb | lh: you think you're seeing fewer niche orgs this year? |
| 23:01.55 | ojwb | kblin: yeah, I was wondering that |
| 23:02.09 | spectie | borja, check the translation: "Este no es la historia de un ganador" |
| 23:02.13 | spectie | it's pretty good |
| 23:02.22 | spectie | (for MT) |
| 23:02.24 | borja | yeah |
| 23:02.32 | ojwb | also wondered if recession means people are more focussed on other things |
| 23:02.40 | ojwb | or if that means there's a lot of people with more spare time... |
| 23:03.15 | Landon | hopefully more spare time ) |
| 23:03.23 | Landon | focussed on improving resumes :P |
| 23:03.34 | ojwb | is certainly expecting to be less busy this year |
| 23:03.52 | ojwb | well, with paid work |
| 23:04.02 | lh | ojwb: not fewer, just different niches |
| 23:04.02 | borja | An interesting effect we've observed at our university is that requests for teaching consultations have skyrocketed (a teaching consultation is when someone comes to your class, records it, and writes a report you can include in your teaching portfolio). We suspect it's because phd students are more nervous about having a good resume that will land them a job. |
| 23:04.10 | ojwb | plus I'm not moving round the world this time |
| 23:04.23 | lh | oh my. |
| 23:04.29 | Landon | I'm glad I still have a few more years to get out of school |
| 23:04.31 | lh | a link to your issue tracker is not an ideas list people. |
| 23:04.36 | spectie | :( |
| 23:04.51 | jasebo | lol |
| 23:05.16 | welterde | s/issue tracker/idea tracker/ |
| 23:05.18 | ojwb | unless *perhaps* you track ideas as tickets and have a query limited to them... |
| 23:05.30 | ojwb | welterde: great minds think alike |
| 23:05.34 | kblin | lh: depends? we're pretty much using something similar at WorldForge for our own planning |
| 23:05.49 | ojwb | certainly a bare link is not useful |
| 23:06.12 | kblin | lh: of course we have an extra GSoC wiki page, but we're not going to discuss projects there |
| 23:06.32 | kblin | launchpad blueprints are pretty nifty |
| 23:06.58 | kblin | but of course lh knows all of this |
| 23:07.29 | kblin | trusts in lh's cat^H^H^Hgeek herding skills |
| 23:08.25 | VDVsx | lh, last year haskell had something similar, I remember :) |
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| 23:09.16 | VDVsx | http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/summer-of-code/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=topic&type=proposed-project&order=priority |
| 23:09.18 | VDVsx | :) |
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| 23:10.25 | kblin | haskell for bioinformatics? |
| 23:10.29 | kblin | oh well |
| 23:10.33 | spectie | haha |
| 23:10.52 | VDVsx | eheh |
| 23:11.13 | kblin | <3 biopython |
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| 23:11.30 | kblin | writing parsers is boring :) |
| 23:12.23 | lh | kblin: i assume you have descriptions for your linked to bugs, right? this is a link just to the issue tracker. that's it. |
| 23:12.47 | lh | VDVsx: that was suboptimal. they also had a track record. |
| 23:12.59 | kloeri | Exherbos ideas list should be a lot more interesting than our bugtracker |
| 23:13.16 | VDVsx | lh, yup, seems very organized |
| 23:13.30 | kblin | lh: sure.. |
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| 23:14.11 | kblin | lh: somewhere we needed to put all this "you should know this and contact that person" and stuff |
| 23:14.31 | kblin | so of course there's a short description of the projects as well |
| 23:14.42 | lh | kblin: ok. that is good. |
| 23:14.52 | lh | will be getting to worldforge at 1 AM tomorrow at this rate |
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| 23:15.03 | spectie | are you doing it alphabetically lh? :) |
| 23:15.43 | homunq | oh, should our ideas list include potential mentor's names? even if there's not a single obvious answer for more than half of the ideas? |
| 23:15.58 | spectie | homunq, ours did |
| 23:16.09 | spectie | so they know who to contact |
| 23:16.20 | spectie | if they want to contact directly, not through irc or mailing list |
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| 23:16.58 | homunq | ours just says "ask around on IRC and the mailing list", which is pretty good advice - we are pretty responsive |
| 23:17.04 | spectie | same here |
| 23:17.08 | scorche | homunq: that is sufficient ;) |
| 23:17.10 | spectie | but sometimes people might be nervous to do that |
| 23:17.27 | lh | spectie: yep |
| 23:17.37 | lh | homunq: it certainly helps |
| 23:18.17 | homunq | OK, I'll go put names on the obvious ones, leave the other half as "ask" |
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| 23:24.14 | kblin | oh well, I'm off to bed |
| 23:24.28 | kblin | lh: have fun |
| 23:26.22 | lh | kblin: rest well |
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| 23:26.47 | spectie | MW |
| 23:27.42 | MatthewWilkes | spectie! |
| 23:27.59 | spectie | :) |
| 23:30.06 | MatthewWilkes | Awesome, updated ideas from a student, both sound awesome |
| 23:31.00 | spectie | cool, what? |
| 23:31.55 | MatthewWilkes | First one was improving tagging/ontology/taxonomy/etc support in Plone, which isn't great at the moment |
| 23:32.41 | MatthewWilkes | Second is a utility that graphs the relationships between content on a site and presents it as a browsable map |
| 23:32.48 | spectie | nice |
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| 23:36.03 | jasebo | number 2 sounds very cool |
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| 23:44.41 | borja | home time for me |
| 23:44.44 | borja | waves |
| 23:44.52 | spectie | fins ara! |
| 23:45.29 | lh | bye borja |
| 23:45.44 | borja | spectie: etxera noa, afaltzera |
| 23:45.49 | spectie | :) |
| 23:45.57 | spectie | etxe = house |
| 23:46.11 | spectie | for the rest i'll have to ask erdaratu |
| 23:46.18 | spectie | borja, bon profit ;) |
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| 23:58.04 | DanParker | space shuttle just went up :) |
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