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| 01:07.27 | eean | omg I just filled out the survey, I get to the bottom and I see that apparently the igoogle gmail viewer blocks the submit button |
| 01:07.35 | eean | I freakin hate the igoogle gmail viewer :D |
| 01:08.11 | eean | oh no |
| 01:08.15 | eean | the message is clipped |
| 01:08.21 | eean | fail |
| 01:08.32 | summatusmentis | Landon: still around? |
| 01:11.30 | Landon | yeah |
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| 01:12.20 | Landon | summatusmentis: gnop |
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| 01:52.00 | DrStein | Hello, I'm from Chile and it will be winter over here, instead of summer. So I'll be in classes. Is it possible for me to participate anyways? how much time does a project take? (generally) |
| 01:58.49 | Ori_B | lh: heh, you missed a very important reason for participating in the survey |
| 02:03.05 | Ori_B | "To learn something new" |
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| 02:06.08 | eean | DrStein: depends on the mentor and the project. |
| 02:06.18 | eean | for me no that wouldn't be good |
| 02:06.26 | eean | unless you're a really bad student have plenty of time lol :) |
| 02:08.12 | DrStein | hehe actually is my last year at university, and therefore my last chance to participate on the program |
| 02:08.29 | DrStein | so, I'm quite interested. |
| 02:08.35 | DrStein | But you have a very good point |
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| 02:13.21 | kc_ | DrStein: it certainly is possible to participate. read "Advice for Non-US Students" at http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
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| 02:16.47 | DrStein | nice, thank you kc_ |
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| 02:25.44 | johndbritton | lh: ping |
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| 02:36.50 | antarus | lh: jesus what is this giant exam you've sent me |
| 02:38.46 | antarus | question 11.q does not inspire confidence that I will complete it ;p |
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| 02:48.02 | crosvera | GSoC FTW!! |
| 02:48.42 | zooko | \o/ |
| 02:49.01 | PeepOle | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.29 | PeepOle | >->o |
| 02:49.52 | PeepOle | o|-< |
| 02:50.30 | PeepOle | o|-E |
| 02:53.54 | scorche | ... |
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| 03:11.12 | danderson | http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0211/msg00174.html |
| 03:11.13 | danderson | awesome. |
| 03:11.30 | danderson | I'm adding that to power plant, bikeshed, bozo bit and other development terms |
| 03:11.43 | danderson | "Gah, stupid code. DUCKEH TIME!" |
| 03:12.04 | zooko | What's a power plant? |
| 03:12.34 | zooko | Heh heh. That's good. |
| 03:12.39 | zooko | The Rubber Duck approach. |
| 03:13.02 | danderson | when a developer goes into a cave for 3 months, writes code without showing it to anyone, and then shows up with a 10kLOC massive, unreviewable change |
| 03:13.13 | danderson | said developer just dropped a power plant on the team. |
| 03:13.18 | zooko | Ah. |
| 03:13.29 | danderson | Something so huge, so complex and hairy, that it cannot possibly be reviewed decently |
| 03:13.31 | Landon | heh |
| 03:13.37 | Landon | I did something similar to duckeh last night |
| 03:13.46 | Landon | no duckeh though |
| 03:13.54 | Landon | but I commented *every freaking* line of my assembly lab |
| 03:13.57 | Landon | to find the freaking bug |
| 03:14.07 | danderson | or if it does, it is highly likely that the review will start by "Okay, so the design is wrong. We could have fixed this on day 2, but you just lost a month of coding time." |
| 03:14.24 | summatusmentis | Landon: d'you have a site I can link to for the write-up on 'acceptance into gsoc' conversation from a few days ago? |
| 03:14.36 | Landon | wot? |
| 03:14.37 | Landon | like |
| 03:14.39 | Landon | personal site? |
| 03:14.42 | Landon | or reference site? |
| 03:14.44 | danderson | Landon: I've done that too |
| 03:14.47 | summatusmentis | personal site |
| 03:14.49 | danderson | to debug board bootup code |
| 03:14.52 | Landon | lfowles.org |
| 03:14.54 | zooko | I want to know how to get my project accepted into GSoC. |
| 03:14.58 | summatusmentis | to give a shout out :) |
| 03:14.59 | Landon | with or without the dub dubs |
| 03:15.07 | danderson | Duckeh was my glass of Guinness at the time I think |
| 03:15.12 | danderson | but the principle remains much the same |
| 03:15.21 | Landon | personally despises sites that don't treat @ like www |
| 03:15.26 | Landon | heh |
| 03:15.32 | danderson | however, I still want a squeaky rubber duckeh for the purpose |
| 03:15.44 | Landon | let me know if you find a suitable duck outlet |
| 03:15.45 | Landon | ;) |
| 03:15.47 | danderson | so that I can honk-honk at the code with duckeh to warn it that I'm about to fix it |
| 03:18.01 | Landon | heh |
| 03:18.07 | danderson | hahahaha: http://www.duckeh.com/ |
| 03:18.10 | Landon | "Duckeh.... what shall I do about this errata" |
| 03:18.47 | Landon | http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/50330.html |
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| 03:25.28 | joshp | how much are the stipends? |
| 03:26.15 | lloydbudd | lh: strange, I get The page you navigated to does not exist, when trying to visit http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/notes-on-student-allocations |
| 03:26.42 | scorche | lloydbudd: works for me |
| 03:26.48 | scorche | are you logged in? |
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| 03:27.37 | lloydbudd | scorche: yup logged in, and the other pages work |
| 03:27.53 | ojwb | are there any statistics for what proportion of students stay involved with the orgs they've worked with (or in open source more generally)? |
| 03:28.14 | ojwb | has heard anecdotes, but not numbers |
| 03:28.16 | danderson | ~faq |
| 03:28.16 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 03:28.30 | ojwb | danderson: to me? |
| 03:28.38 | danderson | no, sec |
| 03:29.04 | lloydbudd | on the Org App any1 know what is expected in Public Email: field? |
| 03:29.10 | danderson | bloody hell |
| 03:29.21 | danderson | am I the only one to get really messed up display of the FAQ? |
| 03:29.33 | ojwb | danderson: fine here |
| 03:29.46 | ojwb | lloydbudd: a contact address |
| 03:29.52 | ojwb | see the manual for details |
| 03:30.19 | lloydbudd | ojwb: link to manual? I found myself at http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#quick_admins |
| 03:30.36 | danderson | anyway |
| 03:30.38 | ojwb | what sounds like it |
| 03:31.01 | ojwb | search for "Public Email"... |
| 03:31.13 | lloydbudd | ojwb: doh, thanks! |
| 03:31.18 | danderson | joshp: read the FAQ. I searched for 'payment' and found the answer. |
| 03:31.25 | danderson | Please, please please, read the FAQ |
| 03:31.32 | danderson | that goes out to all you folks |
| 03:31.37 | danderson | when in doubt, read the FAQ |
| 03:31.49 | ojwb | and when certain, still read it! |
| 03:32.26 | danderson | yeah, even when certain, read it |
| 03:32.42 | danderson | then imagine a kitten crying each time you ask a question that is in the FAQ |
| 03:32.47 | danderson | and go read it again just to be sure :P |
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| 03:34.46 | ojwb | ~publicemail is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#depth_orgapp (bullet 4) |
| 03:34.47 | ibot | okay, ojwb |
| 03:34.57 | ojwb | ~public_email is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#depth_orgapp (bullet 4) |
| 03:34.58 | ibot | okay, ojwb |
| 03:35.09 | ojwb | since that's being asked a lot today |
| 03:37.46 | danderson | +1 |
| 03:38.01 | danderson | has an issue been filed in the issue tracker? |
| 03:38.15 | danderson | Little UI nits like this are bound to happe, but bugs should be filed |
| 03:38.17 | ojwb | doesn't know |
| 03:38.35 | ojwb | but you're right, they need noting at the time |
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| 03:40.39 | danderson | anyway, time for sleep. Up in 5 hours. |
| 03:40.46 | danderson | And remember: duckeh is watching. |
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| 03:51.35 | PeepOle | Anyone here has used GAE? |
| 03:52.54 | karsten_ | typo in the faq: there are two PDT times for "Student application deadline." |
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| 04:31.24 | snake | hi to all |
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| 04:53.44 | Huy | hi snake, did you bite anyone today |
| 04:54.09 | snake | no man |
| 04:55.07 | mikv | . |
| 04:55.20 | snake | may be u r the lucky 1 |
| 04:56.28 | snake | i want to make an addon of whiteboard to pidgin. can anyone help?? |
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| 05:01.16 | ecin | snake: help in what sense? |
| 05:01.32 | zooko | Eiffel.com? Whoa, EiffelStudio GPL release? |
| 05:02.05 | zooko | I was just gazing with affection at my old ISE manual the other day... |
| 05:02.36 | harlan | waves to lh |
| 05:03.15 | snake | i want to do it in gsoc 2009 bt i don´t know how to convey my ideas to the gaim . |
| 05:08.44 | snake | enic:how to convey ma ideas to the mentor team of gaim? |
| 05:08.53 | ecin | snake: Saying you want to create a whiteboard add-on seems like a good way to convey it. :P Just use an example of how it works in another app, for example MSN Messenger's whiteboard. |
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| 05:11.49 | snake | ecin:no i mean that how can i contact the right person incharge to tell ma idea? |
| 05:12.57 | ecin | snake: join #pidgin and ask around. |
| 05:13.16 | ecin | snake: in other words, perhaps ask who's mentoring for this years gsoc. |
| 05:13.30 | ecin | Or better yet, ask who you should contact. :) |
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| 05:15.13 | snake | thanks ecin |
| 05:16.38 | snake | enic:actually i m a newbie to gsoc and don´t exactly how the stuff works here. :) |
| 05:17.00 | snake | *know |
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| 05:23.42 | ojwb | the faq is a good place to start |
| 05:23.46 | ojwb | ~faq |
| 05:23.47 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 05:25.05 | ojwb | asking on #pidgin is a good start, though note that which orgs are accepted this year isn't announced until next week |
| 05:25.11 | ojwb | so it's speculative at this point |
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| 05:37.05 | kendrick | yay speculation! |
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| 05:42.46 | joshp | i wish pidgin had a telnet plugin |
| 05:42.54 | manus_eiffel | Zooko: glad to see someone who knows about Eiffel |
| 05:43.14 | manus_eiffel | zooko: you should check our development website at http://dev.eiffel.com for more details |
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| 05:45.14 | joshp | has there ever been sponsors for microcontroller or embedded linux code? |
| 05:45.34 | lifeeth | joshp, rtems |
| 05:45.42 | lifeeth | and open moko I guess |
| 05:45.54 | joshp | thanks |
| 05:58.49 | snake | ojwb: thanks |
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| 06:08.15 | codestr0m | lh or one of the googlers.. I think it would be great if you guys applied for a freenode group host mask.. I'd love to know who are mentors and who are students |
| 06:08.57 | codestr0m | we're directing students to our channel #osunix to ask questions about our projects and with 20-30 mentors in there it could possibly help out a bit |
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| 06:21.21 | Ac-town | codestr0m, Yeah, that'd be nice |
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| 06:24.22 | lresende | hey guys, in the organization application, when the following field is going to be used "What is the application template you would like contributors to your organization to use." |
| 06:26.04 | harlan | And on the org application, "What is the main public mailing list for your group?" - is that support, dev, ??? |
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| 06:29.42 | lresende | harlan, depends, in my case i don't have a main public mailing list... this is probably the case of project umbrellas |
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| 06:56.31 | harlan | lresende: Thanks, I wasn't sure. |
| 06:56.49 | harlan | Now to figure out the application template... |
| 06:59.08 | lresende | harlan: I have used last years model |
| 06:59.24 | lresende | at least for now (to get the application saved/submitted) |
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| 07:02.01 | harlan | OK, thanks. As long as we can update these apps I should be fine. |
| 07:16.21 | lresende | harlan: yes you can |
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| 07:27.07 | kblin | ack |
| 07:27.16 | kblin | that survey is stupid |
| 07:27.27 | kblin | which project is "the project" ? |
| 07:27.45 | kblin | I've participated in different projects |
| 07:28.34 | lh | kblin: fill one out for each i will reconcile |
| 07:28.43 | lh | kblin: i don't think they accomodated for that idea. |
| 07:28.58 | lh | and by they i mean me too. not good. |
| 07:30.15 | lh | oh my god. |
| 07:30.28 | kblin | lh: oh, ok, will do |
| 07:30.34 | lh | loves this ff extension |
| 07:30.38 | lh | kblin: danke |
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| 07:33.33 | kblin | lh: though "once or twice" for conferences doesn't cut it for yearly conferences :) |
| 07:33.55 | kblin | but that's still a "closest match" thing, so no biggie |
| 07:36.09 | lh | kblin: fair enough. |
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| 07:43.50 | kblin | hehe |
| 07:43.59 | kblin | goes to dig up some old emails |
| 07:44.10 | kblin | I first sent a patch to Samba in 2000, I think, for the website |
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| 07:58.45 | codestr0m_afk | lh: I mentioned it earlier, but not sure if it would be a good idea to register a group host mask with freenode.. so we can tell mentors and possible students.. |
| 07:59.40 | lh | codestr0m_afk: this is a good idea |
| 07:59.51 | lh | can you email me this? i am going to bed soon and dont want to forget |
| 08:00.03 | harlan | I was wondering why you were up this late... |
| 08:00.04 | codestr0m_afk | lh: I'll send to the google groups list |
| 08:00.10 | lh | codestr0m_afk: thanks |
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| 08:00.21 | lh | harlan: catching up with people |
| 08:00.22 | lh | :) |
| 08:00.30 | harlan | always a good thing to do. |
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| 08:01.14 | lh | harlan: agreed |
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| 08:13.31 | kblin | lh: freenode hostmasks tend to take pretty long, though |
| 08:14.04 | lh | kblin: it is worth the effort |
| 08:14.04 | lh | we can wait. it's our fifth year now, what's a bit more time? |
| 08:14.15 | kblin | that's a good point |
| 08:15.02 | kblin | I just wanted to mention that if you ask for one now, we might be able to use it for GSoC 2011, or 2010 if we're lucky :) |
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| 08:15.29 | kblin | otoh, lots of mentors will already have their org's hostmask |
| 08:16.03 | harlan | how is a hostmask different from a cloak? |
| 08:16.47 | scorche | oh...you guys filed a GCF? |
| 08:16.58 | lh | 2011 ftw!! |
| 08:17.07 | lh | scorche: no we're talking about doing it |
| 08:17.08 | lh | tomorrow |
| 08:17.12 | lh | is tired |
| 08:17.36 | scorche | ah |
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| 08:20.00 | spectie | moenin' all |
| 08:20.02 | spectie | *mornin' |
| 08:20.22 | anki1 | morning |
| 08:21.32 | scorche | mmmm....who needs butter when one has vinegar and olive oil for bread? |
| 08:21.59 | alexstre^ | I agree with you scorche |
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| 08:27.25 | spectie | butter is awesome :D |
| 08:27.38 | spectie | although olive oil is good too |
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| 08:29.45 | spectie | ooh, i have croissant ^__^ |
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| 08:29.56 | spectie | lh, that was a short nap |
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| 08:54.58 | aghisla | hi all |
| 08:55.06 | easwar | lo aghisla |
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| 09:05.58 | alexstre^ | i' been obsessed with simon and garfunkel since I saw Watchmen last week, I had to rip a bunch of old CDs and that's all I've been listening to lately |
| 09:06.43 | sid0 | watchmen has S&G? :o |
| 09:06.51 | alexstre^ | yeah, they soundtrack is really good |
| 09:07.31 | sid0 | which songs? |
| 09:07.39 | sid0 | expects Sound of Silence to be there |
| 09:07.51 | alexstre^ | yup, sound of silence is there |
| 09:08.16 | sid0 | anything else? |
| 09:08.29 | alexstre^ | there's one more but I have a blank right now |
| 09:08.32 | alexstre^ | umm |
| 09:08.46 | alexstre^ | they also have about 40 seconds of '99 red balloons'... which was a bit weird |
| 09:09.23 | alexstre^ | leonard cohen is there, jimi hendrix |
| 09:09.30 | sid0 | hallelujah? |
| 09:09.37 | sid0 | by cohen |
| 09:09.40 | alexstre^ | yup |
| 09:09.44 | sid0 | heh |
| 09:09.58 | alexstre^ | the times are a-changin' is in it also, but I don't remember if it's the dylan version or s&g |
| 09:10.10 | alexstre^ | I think it's dylan |
| 09:10.23 | sid0 | oh, interesting: http://reelsoundtrack.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/the-watchmen-soundtrack/ |
| 09:10.29 | sid0 | yeah, the dylan version |
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| 09:11.20 | alexstre^ | oh, great find |
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| 10:07.39 | kk | hello, can some one clear my doubt? Do I need to create a user profile for my organisation to make it a mentoring organisation? |
| 10:08.13 | kk | or is it just for individual students and mentors? |
| 10:08.23 | ojwb | kk: AIUI, you create a profile for *you* and then apply on behalf of the org |
| 10:08.32 | ojwb | but I've not done the later part yet |
| 10:08.39 | ojwb | latter |
| 10:08.51 | schumaml | ... and hope that your profile does work with the soc app |
| 10:09.00 | schumaml | any idea what to do if it doesn't? |
| 10:09.19 | ojwb | file a bug? |
| 10:09.36 | kk | ojwb: thanks, the problem is that i am confused after reading the user guide. I don't know if i must creat my own profile and also an organisation user profile? |
| 10:10.12 | ojwb | I don't think the org is a user, but as I said I've not actually done it myself yet |
| 10:10.32 | kk | ojwb: thanks, may be some one will anser this |
| 10:11.00 | ojwb | it's 3am in California currently, so you might have to wait |
| 10:11.29 | kk | ojwb: lol |
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| 10:24.33 | schumaml | hm... now it's letting me sign in |
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| 10:25.19 | schumaml | could be a) some kind of delay after first try b) tyring to report a bug c) something completely different that triggers this |
| 10:26.20 | schumaml | wonders if it is a coincidence that he got a load of spam just after signing up... :/ |
| 10:27.09 | ojwb | finds he gets a load of spam after doing anything |
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| 10:50.52 | alexstre^ | kk can I ask what organization you're applying for? if it's not a big secret, i'm bored & curious (which can sometimes be a dangerous combination) |
| 10:53.45 | ojwb | alexstre^: there's no kk here... |
| 10:54.11 | alexstre^ | that is an excellent point... |
| 10:54.42 | alexstre^ | I guess he left, or my irc client is lying to me |
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| 12:03.09 | kblin | crap |
| 12:03.31 | kblin | why is it so damn hard (and expensive) to get a US keyboard with a damn laptop |
| 12:03.32 | sfb | hi kai |
| 12:03.48 | sfb | cos you're in europe? |
| 12:04.07 | MatthewWilkes | why would you want one? |
| 12:04.11 | schumaml | kblin: the US want to keep their lead in programming? |
| 12:04.24 | Ivanovic | kblin: uhm, eg for thinkpads you can just order a replacement keyboard and are done... |
| 12:06.55 | kblin | Ivanovic: I'm not getting a thinkpad again |
| 12:07.09 | kblin | Ivanovic: mine just broke, after 3.5 years |
| 12:07.15 | Ivanovic | :) |
| 12:08.13 | kblin | nice little yellow pixel lines down my display |
| 12:08.18 | Ivanovic | ugh |
| 12:08.39 | kblin | a new display (now that I'm out of warranty) is around 450-500 EUR |
| 12:08.48 | scorche | wha?...why no more thinkpad? =( |
| 12:08.51 | kblin | I can get a new laptop for the same price |
| 12:08.53 | ojwb | new laptop can't be much more |
| 12:09.16 | kblin | scorche: because it doesn't hold up longer than laptops at a third of the price |
| 12:09.27 | scorche | disagrees |
| 12:09.33 | kblin | mine didn't |
| 12:09.50 | kblin | I paid 1.5k eur for it, it's 3.5 years old, and it's broken |
| 12:10.01 | kblin | repairing it costs another 500 eur, |
| 12:10.03 | scorche | 3.5 years is pretty good for a laptop...many dont even last 6-9 months |
| 12:10.11 | scorche | yeah...not worth repairing |
| 12:10.28 | sfb | If I had a laptop that didn't last six month I would rage. I'd be on the news and shortcut to death row. |
| 12:10.44 | sfb | For that kind of money that would beyond unacceptable. |
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| 12:10.49 | ojwb | be under warranty though... |
| 12:10.52 | kblin | yeah |
| 12:10.55 | sfb | Nevertheless. |
| 12:10.56 | spectie | <kblin> why is it so damn hard (and expensive) to get a US keyboard with a damn laptop |
| 12:11.03 | spectie | you try getting a UK keyboard! |
| 12:11.09 | spectie | or even a Breton keyboard ;) |
| 12:11.20 | ojwb | is dreading that if this ever breaks |
| 12:11.27 | ojwb | (in NZ now) |
| 12:11.37 | kblin | spectie: same difference. I've got an UK laptop with my mac mini, that's fine |
| 12:11.44 | Ivanovic | kblin: the easiest is probably to contact the support of the manufacturer and ask for a replacement board in US layout and how to get that |
| 12:11.50 | lut4rp | Macs really last. |
| 12:12.11 | kblin | lut4rp: but I can buy 4-5 laptops for the price of a mac |
| 12:12.18 | lut4rp | kblin: :) |
| 12:12.18 | sfb | amen |
| 12:12.25 | spectie | kblin, the US keyboard has keys in the wrong places :P |
| 12:12.28 | ojwb | that's a lot more to carry though |
| 12:12.36 | sfb | And then use the osx86 project to install osx on one of those cheap laptops. q= |
| 12:12.37 | spectie | i have an 'international' (US) keyboard in my macbook |
| 12:12.42 | spectie | but i just use a custom layout |
| 12:12.53 | scorche | sticks to being a thinkpad fanboy |
| 12:12.58 | lut4rp | sfb: its the Mac hardware thats awesome, OS X is bleh to me :) |
| 12:13.06 | lut4rp | and if you |
| 12:13.14 | spectie | well, the hardware works better with macos |
| 12:13.18 | spectie | but i'll run debian anyway |
| 12:13.18 | lut4rp | have been using linux, OS X feels inferior |
| 12:13.27 | lut4rp | runs great with Ubuntu! |
| 12:13.32 | lut4rp | and Debian too |
| 12:13.39 | spectie | the wireless |
| 12:13.40 | kblin | scorche: dunno, it's decent hardware, but not good enough to afford it imho |
| 12:13.42 | spectie | is problematic |
| 12:13.58 | spectie | but then i'm quite cursed with wireless on linux |
| 12:14.00 | lut4rp | the wireless, the touchpad, the kb backlight, everything works on ubuntu on my macbook pro |
| 12:14.03 | spectie | seems to work for everyone apart from me |
| 12:14.10 | lut4rp | hah |
| 12:14.18 | kblin | scorche: tough there's a slim chance that it's just the display cable, which can probably for less |
| 12:14.24 | kblin | *be exchanged |
| 12:14.36 | spectie | scorche, aye, i'd get a thinkpad if i had the choice |
| 12:14.39 | scorche | 3.5 years is pretty good though...i wouldnt be upset about that at all |
| 12:14.55 | lut4rp | aye, it is |
| 12:15.01 | lut4rp | but I love ThinkPads as well |
| 12:15.11 | kblin | dunno, my old asus held up about the same time |
| 12:15.20 | lut4rp | has a really old IMB R51 |
| 12:15.26 | lut4rp | IBM* |
| 12:15.29 | kblin | hey |
| 12:15.39 | kblin | I've got an R52, they're not _that_ old |
| 12:15.53 | lut4rp | mine is around 6 years. :D |
| 12:16.02 | lut4rp | that's *old* |
| 12:16.10 | lut4rp | and fully functional as well. |
| 12:16.26 | lut4rp | well, considering the fact that there's not much in it to go wrong either :P |
| 12:16.54 | scorche | hugs his T42...and his T43 |
| 12:17.12 | scorche | i have been lusting after an X200s ever since they first came out, but by this point, i might as well wait for the X201s |
| 12:17.22 | kblin | scorche: I'm mostly upset that it broke in the middle of me writing my thesis and without (GSoC) money to get a new one |
| 12:17.35 | lut4rp | oh... |
| 12:17.58 | scorche | kblin: i can see that...i just wouldnt be mad at 3.5 years at all |
| 12:19.10 | kblin | scorche: it's more that I fail to be sufficiently impressed |
| 12:19.29 | kblin | scorche: at least not enough to shell out the money for a new one |
| 12:19.41 | alexstre^ | i've had my iBook G4 since 2004-2005, I'm surprised it still works like a charm |
| 12:19.41 | scorche | shrugs |
| 12:19.52 | scorche | of course, i cant stand touchpads, so... |
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| 12:20.47 | kblin | though I guess that if I try to get a dell with bluetooth and keyboard lighting... |
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| 12:21.14 | lut4rp | Dell sucks on reliability |
| 12:21.49 | lut4rp | my friend had his DVD drive b0rked on his XPS within 6 months |
| 12:22.37 | spsneo | lut4rp: which one do u think is best? |
| 12:22.57 | lut4rp | on reliability? Definitely ThinkPad or Apple. |
| 12:23.16 | lut4rp | but Apple configs are above the standard market config. |
| 12:23.21 | lut4rp | and they charge for that :) |
| 12:23.43 | kblin | well, I agree, up until now, I just had a failing fan in my thinkpad last year, which was replaced pretty fast |
| 12:25.15 | kblin | well, maybe scorche is right... |
| 12:25.42 | kblin | all of the cheaper laptops seem to lack one feature or the other that I've grown used to |
| 12:26.16 | scorche | like i have been saying, i dont know what laptops you have been having, but 3.5 years is pretty nice...it isnt often i hear other brands get up that high |
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| 12:30.26 | danderson | indeed, 3.5y is excellent lifetime for a laptop |
| 12:30.37 | danderson | and after 2 years it's probably completely obsolete anyway :P |
| 12:30.46 | kblin | yeah, yeah |
| 12:31.11 | sfb | haha |
| 12:31.14 | sfb | Man. |
| 12:31.19 | sfb | A guy can't catch a break around here. |
| 12:31.50 | devilsadvocate | lut4rp, i've seen thinkpads with a completely screwed screen |
| 12:32.06 | devilsadvocate | lut4rp, and someone i know had his keyboard replaced after a month |
| 12:32.15 | lut4rp | devilsadvocate: exceptions are always there. |
| 12:32.33 | lut4rp | sid0 showed me someone who had his MBP replaced due to a b0rked graphic card |
| 12:32.42 | kblin | hmm |
| 12:32.59 | kblin | so I can get a new R500 for 1200 these days |
| 12:33.08 | sfb | My brother has an Alienware that will be fully in my possession next week. |
| 12:33.10 | devilsadvocate | just saying, thinkpads are not what they used to be.. and they certainly havent kept up in terms of aesthetics :P |
| 12:33.19 | sfb | If you want to talk about terrible quality. Buy an Alienware. |
| 12:33.29 | sfb | If you want to talk about terrible customer support. Buy an Alienware. |
| 12:33.39 | kblin | devilsadvocate: I like the thinkpad look |
| 12:33.43 | sfb | One of the worse laptop companies in existance. |
| 12:33.47 | lut4rp | Alienware == Dell |
| 12:33.47 | lut4rp | :) |
| 12:33.48 | scorche | likes thinkpad asthetics....no shiny screeny...no shiny back...simple....efficient... |
| 12:33.59 | devilsadvocate | kblin, im more of a vaio person myself :) |
| 12:34.10 | kblin | it's no-nonesense, and it's got a list explaining which screw is which on the bottom |
| 12:34.13 | scorche | oh...that explains it |
| 12:34.32 | lut4rp | Vaio looks delicate. |
| 12:34.37 | devilsadvocate | uses an 8 year old vaio |
| 12:34.44 | lut4rp | devilsadvocate: i know, i've seen yours :P |
| 12:35.11 | kblin | devilsadvocate: I've stayed away from sony ever since the first small vaios they did in 2000 |
| 12:35.11 | lut4rp | but the newer ones. |
| 12:35.11 | scorche | heh...i have an old viao in my garage...it eats hard drives...it ate 2 of them before i actually look ed at the board...and guess what they did |
| 12:35.21 | kblin | at my job back then, my boss had one that kept overheating during idling on the table |
| 12:35.26 | devilsadvocate | lut4rp, they are not delicate. even the new ones. some of my relatives have it,, and i know the kind of abuse they have taken |
| 12:35.36 | lut4rp | the Vaio devilsadvocate has looks like a tank :P |
| 12:35.37 | kblin | we had to prop it up on two pencils |
| 12:35.49 | kblin | might be that the bigger ones are better |
| 12:35.50 | sfb | lut4rp: His first one was from when Alienware was their own business. |
| 12:35.54 | scorche | some brilliant sony engineer decided that it was a good idea to use the hard drive essentially as the heatsink for the northbridge |
| 12:36.02 | devilsadvocate | scorche, :D |
| 12:36.10 | lut4rp | lol |
| 12:36.24 | sfb | lut4rp: I still hobble it along but I had to replace the CPU and come up with my own monstrous CPU fan system and the videocard is... useless. So it's basically a portable console/server. |
| 12:36.52 | lut4rp | sfb: ahh, you never know when it might come in handy :) |
| 12:36.58 | sfb | lut4rp: That whole line was a catastrophe of design flaws, most circled around poor cooling components and poor case design. |
| 12:37.03 | scorche | i looked at the TZ...too delicate for my taste...plus it has no trackpoint... |
| 12:37.24 | scorche | plus it is shiny.. |
| 12:37.25 | devilsadvocate | scorche, kblin, compaq has laptops that you cant put on your lap |
| 12:37.48 | devilsadvocate | compaq as in hp, now |
| 12:37.54 | sfb | lut4rp: His new one the case is flimsy. He cracked it and after his experience with sand getting into laptops he decided to get a durable laptop. (He's leaving for Afghanistan at the end of the month, thank you US Army.) |
| 12:38.09 | sfb | lut4rp: Actually cracked is an understatement. |
| 12:38.19 | lut4rp | sfb: he needs the ToughBook :) |
| 12:38.33 | scorche | toughbooks are nice...if big and underpowered... |
| 12:38.36 | sfb | lut4rp: The process of openining and closing the lid tore the hinge right out of the back of the case and perpetuated a crack all the way down the side. |
| 12:38.44 | lut4rp | dear God |
| 12:38.47 | lut4rp | :/ |
| 12:38.53 | lut4rp | poor computer. |
| 12:39.10 | kblin | sfb: alriddoch claims his thinkpad could just be vacuumed after field trips and would be fine :) |
| 12:39.37 | scorche | i spilled a glass of beer right onto my R61 once... |
| 12:39.41 | sfb | scorche: He "needs" overpowered. Hence the reason he buys Alienware laptops. He found a better laptop with a better case (suggested by some group within the army) that had all the bells and whistles for 1/3 the price. Through Asus. |
| 12:40.02 | scorche | sfb: yeah...alienware is a ripoff |
| 12:40.06 | sfb | kblin: The problem is he's not going on a field trip, he'll be living in basically a tent in the desert for 18 months. |
| 12:40.43 | sfb | scorche: Try telling that to someone whose friends are all geeky gamers and a product brand like Alienware is basically a giant surrogate phallus. |
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| 12:40.55 | scorche | sfb: ok =) |
| 12:41.03 | sfb | I'm not disagreeing with you. (= |
| 12:41.14 | kblin | hehe |
| 12:41.21 | kblin | sfb: I see the point, yeah |
| 12:41.42 | scorche | we can pull up 3D mark tests and compare |
| 12:42.05 | scorche | that should convince the gamers |
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| 12:42.24 | kblin | scorche: dunno, 3dmark only runs so-so in Wine |
| 12:42.40 | scorche | well, "gamers" dont really use linux |
| 12:43.04 | lut4rp | they don't |
| 12:43.05 | lut4rp | :) |
| 12:43.14 | kblin | depends on their games |
| 12:43.24 | lut4rp | well, real games run on Windows :) |
| 12:43.32 | lut4rp | the newer shiny ones |
| 12:43.40 | kblin | like WoW? |
| 12:43.42 | kblin | or CS:S? |
| 12:43.45 | lut4rp | the ones with PhysX and DirectX 10 |
| 12:43.50 | lut4rp | Crysis? |
| 12:43.52 | scorche | wesnoth, bzflag, etc arent "real games"? |
| 12:43.57 | kblin | noone plays crysis |
| 12:44.06 | lut4rp | the EA lineup? |
| 12:44.09 | scorche | i thought crysis was just a pretty screensaver |
| 12:44.10 | kblin | it's broken and not supported |
| 12:44.21 | lut4rp | scorche: bzflag is my fav game :) |
| 12:44.25 | lut4rp | and wesnoth |
| 12:44.27 | kblin | even crytech doesn't patch ot anymore |
| 12:44.31 | lut4rp | and nexiuz :) |
| 12:44.46 | lut4rp | its about what is played in gamer competitions around the world |
| 12:45.00 | kblin | DX10 is dead |
| 12:45.26 | lut4rp | why? |
| 12:45.44 | sfb | It's failed to seize market development. |
| 12:45.45 | kblin | noone uses that.. |
| 12:45.57 | devilsadvocate | what do they use instead? |
| 12:45.58 | sfb | It's become an addon for large game companies and not a paradigm. |
| 12:46.05 | sfb | DX9c |
| 12:46.11 | kblin | yeah |
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| 12:46.24 | kblin | you can't do anything in DX10 that DX9c can't do |
| 12:46.24 | sfb | If they do DX10 they're doing DX9 and using some of the DX10 stuff. It's not the "shift" Microsoft had envisioned. |
| 12:46.30 | devilsadvocate | dx9c doesnt exploit the unified shader architecture, right? |
| 12:46.51 | kblin | no, but you can do the same shaders in DX9c |
| 12:46.58 | kblin | it's just a little more fiddling |
| 12:47.00 | devilsadvocate | that was supposed to be a dx10 advantage |
| 12:47.41 | kblin | dunno, I don't do graphics development, I just listen to the guys implementing WineD3D alot |
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| 13:26.13 | maruel | uh, I'm admin? |
| 13:26.16 | maruel | yay |
| 13:26.18 | maruel | :) |
| 13:26.36 | lut4rp | :P |
| 13:26.37 | mlankhorst | nat/google/* is automatically opped |
| 13:26.43 | lut4rp | oooh |
| 13:26.49 | lut4rp | nat/google :) |
| 13:27.13 | lut4rp | maruel: what do you do at Google? |
| 13:27.14 | sid0 | wonders how to get such a hostmask |
| 13:27.24 | maruel | lut4rp: I work on chromium |
| 13:27.30 | lut4rp | sid0: get into Google, bummer. |
| 13:27.33 | sid0 | uh |
| 13:27.38 | sid0 | I meant for my college ;) |
| 13:27.40 | sid0 | my college has a class C subnet now |
| 13:27.43 | sid0 | for NAT |
| 13:27.51 | lut4rp | sid0: talk to Freenode. |
| 13:28.35 | lut4rp | sid0: i think the procedure should be kinda same as a project wanting a cloak of its own |
| 13:28.42 | sid0 | I guess so |
| 13:29.12 | scorche | freenode calls them gateway cloaks |
| 13:31.14 | scorche | i forgot which email address they want you to mail for them...staff at freenode probably works though |
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| 13:47.13 | PeepOle | maruel: Hi, will chromium take part in GSoC 09? That would be awesome |
| 13:47.33 | danderson | why don't you ask chromium? |
| 13:47.35 | danderson | ~timeline |
| 13:47.36 | ibot | somebody said timeline was http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 13:47.46 | danderson | as this indicates, accepted organizations are not yet known. |
| 13:48.10 | PeepOle | maruel says he works on chromium |
| 13:48.12 | danderson | but asking the project you care about if they're thinking of applying is a good first step |
| 13:48.33 | danderson | ah, missed the direct address. Sorry. |
| 13:48.39 | maruel | and with a nick like that... |
| 13:48.43 | danderson | ingests more caffeine |
| 13:48.53 | maruel | peep0le: yes, we are applying |
| 13:49.03 | schumaml | do any other org admins use the #gsoc channel logs for student evaluation? :) |
| 13:49.31 | danderson | schumaml: congrats, you've just successfully caused widespread panic :P |
| 13:50.12 | ojwb | schumaml: it had crossed my mind too |
| 13:50.44 | schumaml | c'mon, this is *Google* Summer of Code. All information. From Everyone. For everyone ;) |
| 13:51.38 | Raim | hm, what would you use it for? |
| 13:51.51 | spectie | seeing if the student had asked some silly questions ? |
| 13:52.01 | spectie | or not read the FAQ before asking questions |
| 13:52.05 | spectie | or been a nuisance... |
| 13:52.10 | spectie | the opportunities are endless |
| 13:52.18 | scorche | can think of a couple people |
| 13:52.52 | Raim | I would rather judge by questions asked in your project's channel |
| 13:53.13 | spectie | indeed Raim |
| 13:53.35 | Raim | I for myself also asked questions for the org application which were given in the User's Guide |
| 13:53.45 | Raim | I don't think that is too bad |
| 13:53.48 | spectie | same here |
| 13:53.49 | spectie | indeed |
| 13:54.01 | spectie | Raim, they were options of things that people might use it for |
| 13:54.58 | PeepOle | maruel: Rumours abound that there are plans to run chromium on bare metal. Is that true? |
| 13:55.03 | Raim | and if people are really too dumb to read the FAQ, be sure this will be reflected in their proposal |
| 13:55.22 | maruel | raim: eh |
| 13:55.32 | maruel | peep0le: this channel is not a chromium support channel |
| 13:55.39 | PeepOle | ok |
| 13:56.10 | PeepOle | :) |
| 13:56.10 | ojwb | writes down "Raim: defended asking FAQs on IRC : -1" |
| 13:56.44 | spectie | lol ojwb |
| 13:56.51 | Raim | ojwb: heh :) |
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| 13:59.44 | ojwb | actually, I think I might just want to check they didn't write in "txt spk" the whole time |
| 14:00.04 | ojwb | at least if I had to mentor them and interact on IRC a lot |
| 14:02.08 | spectie | you'd notice that from them hanging out on your IRC channel though |
| 14:02.13 | spectie | one would have thought :) |
| 14:02.48 | schumaml | I probably wouldn't see them there because someone might have kicked/banned them before I joined ;) |
| 14:03.09 | spectie | haha |
| 14:03.31 | ojwb | spectie: probably true |
| 14:04.35 | danderson | ojwb: I accept one FAQ on irc; I remember the excitement/anxiety of my first SoC, easy to get confused when you're new to this world |
| 14:04.48 | danderson | but I do expect a clue to be acquired after the first kind RTFM |
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| 14:05.45 | ojwb | yeah, ability to learn quickly is something to select for |
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| 14:10.27 | Huy | hi |
| 14:10.32 | Huy | hi PeepOle |
| 14:11.09 | sfb | Good morning everyone. |
| 14:11.27 | Huy | good evening sfb |
| 14:13.15 | chunmun | good morning sfb |
| 14:14.00 | chunmun | the room is still silent.. |
| 14:14.12 | chunmun | students' rush is yet to begin .. :P |
| 14:15.34 | grogs987 | heh |
| 14:16.04 | grogs987 | many first year students get on projects? |
| 14:16.34 | grogs987 | or is more experience generally wanted |
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| 14:17.03 | ojwb | it depends a lot on the project as to what's needed |
| 14:17.10 | scorche | how many years a student has spent in school is not necessarily indicative of their skill level |
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| 14:25.55 | honey | hi |
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| 14:27.53 | danderson | General service announcement: if you private-message me out of the blue without a good reason, there is a 99% probability that I will ignore you. |
| 14:28.23 | danderson | third person today to do that instead of asking questions on channel. It's annoying. |
| 14:29.06 | kblin | /msg danderson hey there |
| 14:29.12 | kblin | d'oh ;) |
| 14:30.01 | danderson | kblin: exactly. |
| 14:30.09 | danderson | If I wanted a random conversation, I'd be on ICQ. |
| 14:30.10 | devilsadvocate | kblin, how'd you do that? |
| 14:30.10 | kblin | which reminds me |
| 14:30.19 | kblin | ~anyone |
| 14:30.23 | ibot | *** anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean /I/ do. |
| 14:30.38 | antarus | danderson: what if I private message you in gchat ;p |
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| 14:30.49 | danderson | antarus: then I presume you have a good reason |
| 14:30.55 | kblin | devilsadvocate: /say /msg ... |
| 14:31.04 | devilsadvocate | kblin, ah |
| 14:31.06 | devilsadvocate | :) |
| 14:31.11 | kblin | ~forget anyone |
| 14:31.11 | ibot | kblin: i forgot anyone |
| 14:31.16 | schumaml | danderson: publish the nick in order to have them in the channel logs (for obvious reasons)? ;> |
| 14:32.01 | danderson | schumaml: nah, my goal is not to shame people |
| 14:32.12 | kblin | ~anyone is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, try the project's IRC channel, likely on this server as well. |
| 14:32.13 | ibot | kblin: okay |
| 14:32.24 | honey | can u tell me from where a person should start to participate in gsoc? means what should he read? |
| 14:32.30 | danderson | ~faq |
| 14:32.31 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 14:32.32 | danderson | ~timeline |
| 14:32.33 | ibot | hmm... timeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 14:32.40 | danderson | honey: those two links are a good start |
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| 14:34.45 | honey | thanks |
| 14:34.53 | antarus | hrm |
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| 14:35.01 | antarus | speaking of honey I need to buy honey and clover |
| 14:35.14 | ojwb | read that as "honey and cleaver" |
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| 14:36.49 | antarus | http://animenfo.com/animetitle,1688,isjecv,hachimitsu_to_c.html ;p |
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| 14:43.07 | sourcemorph | is the list of participating organizations out? |
| 14:43.20 | danderson | ~faq |
| 14:43.21 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 14:43.25 | danderson | ~timeline |
| 14:43.25 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, timeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 14:51.58 | lh | alexua: pong |
| 14:52.01 | russellb | ibot: no, timeline is <reply>The GSoC 2009 timeline is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 14:52.02 | ibot | russellb: okay |
| 14:53.07 | Landon | is cleaning crap out |
| 14:53.16 | Landon | throwing away old notes is hard stuff |
| 14:53.24 | summatusmentis | really? |
| 14:53.26 | Landon | :( until you look through them and realize you doodled through 50% of classes |
| 14:53.30 | summatusmentis | I don't normally have an issue |
| 14:55.38 | Landon | summatusmentis: I've been clearing out a lot of stuff lately actually |
| 14:55.40 | Landon | mostly games |
| 14:55.48 | Landon | put a ton of them up for trade on goozex.com |
| 14:56.01 | alexua | lh: sorry I've been unavailable for the past week |
| 14:56.07 | alexua | DrupalCon was insane |
| 14:56.15 | Landon | even though it costs me $2.50 to get rid of them I feel it's worth it to clear out the space and get rid of the stinkers |
| 14:56.23 | welterde | are students allowed to apply for an project, which would get them some extra money from the mentor organization? |
| 14:56.32 | alexua | I'm going to start getting folks to put in some work on the Planet SoC site |
| 14:56.52 | lh | alexua: okay, tha's great. what kind of work? |
| 14:57.01 | alexua | work on the calendar |
| 14:57.03 | lh | and no worries, busy last week for me too |
| 14:57.09 | alexua | fix up the front page |
| 14:57.11 | alexua | clean up the feeds |
| 14:57.14 | summatusmentis | welterde: what are you asking? |
| 14:57.17 | lh | alexua: all excellent. thank you! |
| 14:57.22 | alexua | lh: :D |
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| 14:57.41 | alexua | oh- I also found another great OSS project, which I think will apply |
| 14:57.44 | alexua | RApid SMS |
| 14:57.53 | summatusmentis | welterde: do you mean getting paid by Google, and getting paid by your mentoring org? |
| 14:57.57 | alexua | I worked with the folks at unicef who are largely behind it |
| 14:58.01 | welterde | summatusmentis: yes |
| 14:58.08 | lh | alexua: very cool, will google |
| 14:58.20 | summatusmentis | welterde: I don't now if that's allowed, I would guess not? |
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| 14:59.10 | jschauma | the "public email" that is now required for a mentor application... what's the intended use for this? |
| 14:59.12 | welterde | hmk.. better remove that bounty from the ideas list then ;) |
| 14:59.20 | summatusmentis | welterde: talk to lh |
| 14:59.29 | summatusmentis | she'll know |
| 14:59.34 | mlankhorst | ~mutti |
| 14:59.46 | mlankhorst | slaps ibot |
| 15:00.06 | welterde | lh: so.. is that allowed or not? |
| 15:00.10 | ajuonline | I have a question: |
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| 15:00.22 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: the answer is 4 |
| 15:00.26 | lh | jschauma: check the depth documentation in the user guide |
| 15:00.26 | Landon | ajuonline: I may or may not have an answer |
| 15:00.26 | summatusmentis | hides |
| 15:00.36 | mlankhorst | :o |
| 15:00.39 | mlankhorst | lh is active :) |
| 15:00.41 | Landon | ~publicemail |
| 15:00.41 | ibot | methinks publicemail is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/userguide#depth_orgapp (bullet 4) |
| 15:00.50 | mlankhorst | ~learn mutti as lh |
| 15:00.57 | mlankhorst | slaps ibot |
| 15:00.57 | ajuonline | I know there are some organisations who take up student proposals, even when they dont get through GSoC. i need to look up their names :P |
| 15:01.06 | mlankhorst | ajuonline: xorg? |
| 15:01.09 | ajuonline | ^5's lh |
| 15:01.16 | lh | welterde: this is not necessarily prohibted but sounds subtopimal. different reimbursement types for different students usually leads to trouble |
| 15:01.21 | lh | ajuonline: hello my dear |
| 15:01.26 | scorche | mlankhorst: ~term is reply |
| 15:01.37 | ajuonline | mlankhorst: i need more? |
| 15:01.42 | mlankhorst | ~term |
| 15:01.43 | sfb | Landon: BGGs? |
| 15:01.57 | mlankhorst | darn |
| 15:02.01 | welterde | lh: hmm.. better remove that idea from the list then |
| 15:02.02 | scorche | ~mutti is lh |
| 15:02.03 | ibot | scorche: okay |
| 15:02.04 | Landon | BGG/ |
| 15:02.04 | ajuonline | i know Joomla! did too, but they didnt fund/pay the students last year iirc |
| 15:02.06 | Landon | ? |
| 15:02.07 | scorche | mlankhorst: see? |
| 15:02.09 | mlankhorst | so want to mentor wine, but also want to be a student for xorg :P |
| 15:02.12 | lh | welterde: great, thank you. |
| 15:02.12 | sfb | Landon: You selling board games? |
| 15:02.21 | Landon | ah :P videogames |
| 15:02.22 | mlankhorst | needs a fair coin |
| 15:02.26 | Landon | trading them off, to be more precise |
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| 15:02.57 | mlankhorst | lh: Are you sure I can't be both? :( |
| 15:03.02 | jschauma | Landon: thanks |
| 15:03.07 | sfb | Landon: Ah. |
| 15:03.20 | sfb | Landon: I misread what you said then. I was going to suggest boardgamegeek. |
| 15:03.23 | Landon | slow progress, I have a big box and they're not the most popular games :) |
| 15:03.25 | sfb | But it's for, you know, board games. |
| 15:03.28 | Landon | heh |
| 15:03.41 | Landon | "I got bored of these games, so here are some of my bored games" |
| 15:03.42 | Landon | :) |
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| 15:04.21 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: you're looking for orgs that will pay for a project, even if it's not accepted? |
| 15:04.30 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: last year, yes. |
| 15:04.31 | summatusmentis | (accepted via gsoc) |
| 15:04.36 | summatusmentis | oh |
| 15:04.47 | summatusmentis | so a job to come out of it, above and beyond? |
| 15:04.48 | ajuonline | need to show someone that it exists :P |
| 15:04.49 | welterde | lh: increases the chances of me taking the bounty anyway ;) |
| 15:04.58 | spectie | we were thinking of that this year |
| 15:05.16 | ajuonline | spectie: for getting other funding sources? |
| 15:05.30 | spectie | no, for funding a student if we don't get into gsoc but their idea is good |
| 15:05.38 | lh | mlankhorst: yes damn sure |
| 15:05.39 | ajuonline | ah yes |
| 15:05.51 | lh | welterde: fair enough |
| 15:05.52 | mlankhorst | ugh |
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| 15:06.49 | lh | mlankhorst: just be a student and be done with it dear |
| 15:06.56 | mlankhorst | yeah |
| 15:06.59 | scorche | mlankhorst: i tried that 2 years ago =P |
| 15:07.10 | mlankhorst | but if there's a mentor needed for a certain project I'd be best suited.. |
| 15:07.14 | mlankhorst | ah well |
| 15:07.26 | scorche | you can still help out without being the official mentor |
| 15:07.51 | mlankhorst | I'll ask some other guy to work on it |
| 15:07.59 | scorche | we try and get our students to use the community for help more than the mentors, in fact....it gets them more involved if it works |
| 15:09.53 | lh | what scorche said |
| 15:10.17 | summatusmentis | the org I participated with last year asked that all questions be presented in a public form (IRC, mailing lists, etc.) so that the community could at least see what was going on, if not answer the question |
| 15:10.30 | scorche | summatusmentis: yup |
| 15:10.32 | spectie | indeed |
| 15:11.44 | MatthewWilkes | lh! Greetings! |
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| 15:11.52 | lh | MatthewWilkes: greets |
| 15:12.59 | MatthewWilkes | lh: How's the FRoNC this fine day? |
| 15:13.16 | lh | MatthewWilkes: lovely as usual |
| 15:15.21 | summatusmentis | should've brought tea |
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| 15:19.12 | antarus | lh: seriously, shorter survey next time ;p |
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| 15:20.58 | lh | antarus: chill. we needed to capture data from 5 years. :) |
| 15:21.00 | welterde | if we port our app to android... will that give us the "idea sounds cool" bonus? ;) |
| 15:21.18 | antarus | I'm just saying it encourages me to ignore the survey ;p |
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| 15:22.46 | lh | antarus: and that's your choice. we knew it would be a barrier for some. |
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| 15:24.29 | ajuonline | is filling up that survey |
| 15:24.54 | mlankhorst | mm, can you still modify the survey after you filled it in? |
| 15:25.00 | ajuonline | no |
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| 15:26.45 | ajuonline | its running on google docs, so there is no way to do it. |
| 15:27.01 | ajuonline | it doesnt even let you save the IP address :/ |
| 15:27.06 | ajuonline | of the responder |
| 15:28.06 | scorche | which survey is this? |
| 15:28.38 | ajuonline | scorche: check the mailing list? |
| 15:29.29 | ArthurLiu | lh, zurich took me btw :) |
| 15:29.30 | summatusmentis | ugh, I keep forgetting I'm supposed to do that |
| 15:29.35 | scorche | ah, that one |
| 15:30.11 | lh | ArthurLiu: congratulations! very pleased to hear it. |
| 15:30.26 | ArthurLiu | :) |
| 15:30.31 | danderson | ArthurLiu: zurich? |
| 15:30.42 | ArthurLiu | Google Zürich, summer internship :) |
| 15:30.57 | summatusmentis | cool :) |
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| 15:31.04 | ArthurLiu | sure it is! |
| 15:31.08 | danderson | ArthurLiu: colleague! \o/ |
| 15:31.24 | danderson | ArthurLiu: any idea who you're working with yet? |
| 15:31.26 | summatusmentis | danderson: you're interning again? |
| 15:31.29 | ajuonline | that rings a bell, I shall check if there is an opening nwith Google India :P |
| 15:31.31 | ArthurLiu | Pavol Murin |
| 15:31.41 | aghisla | thanks ajuonline and scorche for reminding to fill the survey |
| 15:31.44 | danderson | summatusmentis: I'm a full time employee at Google Switzerland now |
| 15:31.59 | summatusmentis | danderson: "oh, look at me, I'm amazing" :-P |
| 15:32.03 | summatusmentis | that's really cool |
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| 15:32.43 | VDVsx | I will interview with Zurich tomorrow :) |
| 15:33.12 | VDVsx | intership psition too |
| 15:33.44 | danderson | ArthurLiu: ah, so you'll be one floor up from me. Cool :) |
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| 15:36.14 | sid0 | hm, filling in the form was quicker than I expected |
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| 15:44.19 | aghisla | is it needed to create a google doc after filling the survey? |
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| 15:47.54 | summatusmentis | survey submitted |
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| 15:52.16 | Raim | if we do not require a template is there a way to leave the field empty? |
| 15:53.13 | Raim | or is there no "default" provided by Google this year? |
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| 15:53.32 | summatusmentis | I think lh was saying just put something like 'no template needed' or 'N/A' |
| 15:53.44 | summatusmentis | but I believe it's also highly recommended that you have a template |
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| 15:53.58 | alexua | lh: don't you mean you'll "google it"? |
| 15:54.18 | alexua | I figured swapping "google" with "search" was part of your employment contract ;-) |
| 15:54.19 | ajuonline | submitted the survey |
| 15:55.56 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: I beat you >_> |
| 15:56.02 | Raim | summatusmentis: I would rather like to see what the student comes up with and not just see them fill out a questionnaire |
| 15:56.16 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: i got a phone call in the middle of it! |
| 15:56.32 | summatusmentis | Raim: that also seems reasonable to me, I don't think a template is required |
| 15:56.38 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: excuses excuses |
| 15:56.50 | ajuonline | we are having a festival today, ! |
| 15:56.54 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: ^ |
| 15:56.58 | ajuonline | festival of colours! |
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| 15:57.23 | summatusmentis | colors are a good time :) |
| 15:57.28 | summatusmentis | likes earth tone colors |
| 15:57.31 | MaheshSharma | What all projects are there in Mobile domain? |
| 15:57.41 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: googl eit. |
| 15:57.53 | MaheshSharma | I mean in GSoC 2009 |
| 15:58.14 | summatusmentis | MaheshSharma: no one knows which organizations will be accepted yet, but maemo is applying, I'm pretty sure OpenMoko is applying, etc. |
| 15:58.24 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: for gsoc, the list is to come out yet. and there is no specific way to identify which project fall under that domain, unless you look up on the projects. for e.g. Openmoko |
| 15:58.24 | MaheshSharma | ok |
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| 15:58.42 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: its Openmoko, now! |
| 15:58.58 | MaheshSharma | Thats actually the prob, there is no domain wise listing? |
| 15:59.06 | ajuonline | summatusmentis: i will upload the pics on FB today, it might scare you :P |
| 15:59.16 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: I might get scared, yes :) |
| 15:59.16 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: no. at least not yet. |
| 15:59.36 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: oh, Openmoko, really? |
| 15:59.48 | summatusmentis | is Android applying? I feel like they did last year |
| 16:00.00 | summatusmentis | OpenEmbedded might be applying |
| 16:00.01 | ajuonline | if they are, I will apply to them as well :P |
| 16:00.06 | scorche | coughs |
| 16:00.09 | MaheshSharma | summatusmentis: Nope. |
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| 16:00.20 | ajuonline | ok i need to cook dinner :/ |
| 16:00.24 | summatusmentis | MaheshSharma: nope Android ins't applying? |
| 16:00.28 | scorche | MaheshSharma: by "mobile" do you mean "embedded"? |
| 16:00.55 | MaheshSharma | scorche:Not really. But I am fine with embedded too. |
| 16:01.13 | MaheshSharma | scorche:Can you tell me some more organizations? |
| 16:01.34 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: if I were you, I would do a http://www.google.co.in/search?q=open+source+mobile+projects&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 16:01.36 | scorche | ah...well if you wanted to looking at embedded stuffs, you might want to have a look at rockbox (assuming rockbox gets accepted again) |
| 16:01.37 | summatusmentis | MaheshSharma: no one knows who's going to be accepted, organization-wise |
| 16:01.40 | MaheshSharma | summatusmentis:Android wasnt there in 2008 |
| 16:01.49 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: then, look up the 2008 list of organisations to see if there are any on that list. |
| 16:01.50 | devilsadvocate | rockbox ftw |
| 16:01.58 | devilsadvocate | misses his h320 |
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| 16:02.38 | ajuonline | MaheshSharma: then hope that they get accepted this year, meanwhile working on reading up etc. |
| 16:02.43 | bourgeau_ | Dear gsoc community |
| 16:02.59 | ajuonline | that is sweet :P |
| 16:03.14 | ajuonline | hi bourgeau_ |
| 16:03.17 | bourgeau_ | I have a question about Foreign Certification? |
| 16:03.35 | ajuonline | bourgeau_: ask. dont ask to ask. |
| 16:03.41 | kblin | don't ask to ask, just ask your question., |
| 16:03.43 | bourgeau_ | Hi ajuonline_ |
| 16:04.38 | summatusmentis | kblin! d'you have a website I can use to link back to from my blog post regarding 'fairness in GSoC acceptance' from the conversation a couple of days ago? |
| 16:04.38 | bourgeau_ | Ok, where do we find this Foreign Certification? |
| 16:04.52 | kblin | bourgeau_: why would you need a foreign certification right now? |
| 16:05.03 | ArthurLiu | "fairness in GSoC acceptance" ? I want to see that :P |
| 16:05.15 | kblin | summatusmentis: uh, what were we talking about again? |
| 16:05.52 | summatusmentis | kblin: it was when twitter1 was here, and we were disucssing why gsoc isn't always fair, and why it makes sense that return students be allowed |
| 16:06.03 | kblin | ah, I see |
| 16:06.03 | summatusmentis | ajuonline wanted a write-up, so I did |
| 16:06.12 | summatusmentis | ArthurLiu: http://summatusmentis.com/2009/03/10/gsoc-fairness-participation-the-way-things-are/ |
| 16:06.25 | ajuonline | kblin: you /dont/ blog? |
| 16:06.32 | summatusmentis | kblin: I just want to give credit where credit is due |
| 16:06.44 | VDVsx | OpenMoko isn't applying this year, as far I know |
| 16:06.52 | ajuonline | why not? :/ |
| 16:06.57 | kblin | ajuonline: I blog sometimes |
| 16:07.00 | VDVsx | maybe SHR or FSo |
| 16:07.24 | summatusmentis | ajuonline: presumably because mickey is ridiculously busy |
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| 16:10.24 | kblin | summatusmentis: er, hang on, I just switched providers and seem to have misplaced my personal homepage :) |
| 16:11.17 | kblin | summatusmentis: Should show up at http://kblin.org/ once I found it |
| 16:12.07 | summatusmentis | haha, ok, thanks :) |
| 16:12.36 | kblin | or I could just bite the bullet and do a new one |
| 16:12.56 | summatusmentis | well, that's where I'm going to link to, you do what you want |
| 16:13.01 | VDVsx | the answer for your question is here: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/2009-March/000935.html (website down right now) |
| 16:13.13 | VDVsx | ajuonline, |
| 16:13.22 | kblin | could probably do with an update anyway |
| 16:14.45 | bourgeau_ | I see, no need for foreign certification for now ... I'm relieved as all the administrative staff has gone :) |
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| 16:31.25 | ajuonline | kblin: link? |
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| 16:34.48 | lh | JefferyM: feeling better? |
| 16:35.10 | JefferyM | very much so lh, thank you |
| 16:35.19 | JefferyM | can breathe thru his nose |
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| 16:40.43 | lh | JefferyM: good. |
| 16:40.43 | JefferyM | how are you? |
| 16:40.43 | lh | JefferyM: very well thank you |
| 16:40.43 | JefferyM | good ;) |
| 16:40.43 | lh | i have to go to the dentist today tho. uck. |
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| 16:40.43 | JefferyM | you'll be fine |
| 16:40.43 | JefferyM | dentist is good, or you'll end up like me |
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| 16:41.59 | lh | JefferyM: i know it's good for me. it also sucks. getting a night guard fitted and the dental plastic makes me really, really sick. |
| 16:42.00 | JefferyM | :( |
| 16:42.26 | JefferyM | I just fit my own nightguards, the comercial ones are pretty good, unless you have special needs |
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| 17:02.31 | lil_Toady | hey, what info would i need to provide to apply for jsoc? |
| 17:02.36 | danderson | ~faq |
| 17:02.37 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:03.13 | lil_Toady | ta |
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| 17:03.22 | lh | lil_Toady: gsoc. :p |
| 17:03.39 | lil_Toady | yeh, a typo :p |
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| 17:17.37 | manus_eiffel | We applied last year to be a mentor organization but without success. We are doing it again this year. Can someone provide feedback on our project page http://dev.eiffel.com/soc_2009 to verify that the projects are inline with what is expected. Thanks |
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| 17:22.52 | ecin | manus_eiffel: my input would be to get your mentors sorted. :) |
| 17:24.15 | kblin | ajuonline: hm? what link? |
| 17:25.02 | ajuonline | kblin: to your blog! |
| 17:26.16 | kblin | ajuonline: |
| 17:26.19 | kblin | ajuonline: http://kblin.blogspot.com/ |
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| 17:35.31 | kumarabhi | hi kk |
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| 17:36.03 | ajuonline | ~timeline |
| 17:36.04 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 timeline is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 17:41.28 | spectie | manus_eiffel, looks fine to me |
| 17:41.39 | spectie | manus_eiffel, although nearly all of them say "will get to learn about eiffel" |
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| 17:41.47 | spectie | seems a bit redundant when your project is eiffel ;) |
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| 17:42.30 | lh | manus_eiffel: what can learning about eiffel teach folks? why is eiffel a great thing to learn about? maybe expand it that way. |
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| 17:50.07 | lh | alexua: i am also posting meetup announcements to @gsoc on Twitter & Identi.ca |
| 17:50.12 | PulpFictionPunja | hi to all. my question is that if i have a good open source project and the organization i m concerned with is not participating, can i get my project in Gsoc funded as an individual? |
| 17:51.17 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, probably not |
| 17:51.21 | spectie | you could apply to google |
| 17:51.25 | spectie | ~faq |
| 17:51.26 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 17:51.28 | spectie | it's all in the FAQ |
| 17:51.36 | PulpFictionPunja | yes i read that, but their rate of acceptance is low |
| 17:51.38 | manus_eiffel | ecin: Thanks I guess you mean we should list them? |
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| 17:51.43 | spectie | PulpFictionPunja, indeed |
| 17:52.02 | ecin | manus_eiffel: for each project, correct. Right now it lists 'undecided'. |
| 17:52.02 | PulpFictionPunja | ok another thing i was wondering, can i get the concerened organization to participate in gsoc? |
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| 17:52.09 | spectie | you could ask them |
| 17:52.13 | spectie | but try their IRC channel |
| 17:52.15 | manus_eiffel | spectie: you are right but they don't need to know Eiffel beforehand but for sure they will learn Eiffel in the process |
| 17:52.29 | PulpFictionPunja | aah thanks.. |
| 17:52.31 | spectie | there are 2 days left for organisations to apply |
| 17:52.35 | spectie | well, two and a half |
| 17:52.40 | PulpFictionPunja | yeah i know! i m getting on it rite now :D |
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| 17:53.20 | PulpFictionPunja | is the rate of acceptance on gsoc high or are project ideas rejected usually? (or accepted) |
| 17:53.26 | phrozn | where can i get more information on the information session dates? |
| 17:53.28 | PulpFictionPunja | i mean i m asking how is the competition |
| 17:53.57 | manus_eiffel | lh: thanks for the feedback, I'll expand on that both in the application and on the web page |
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| 17:55.55 | lh | manus_eiffel: np |
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| 18:48.32 | aindilis | hey is it to late to send an application for an organization seeking students? |
| 18:48.36 | aindilis | *too |
| 18:48.46 | maruel | ~timeline |
| 18:48.48 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 timeline is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 18:48.51 | aindilis | thankx |
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| 18:50.38 | Mathiasd1 | any updates on the number of organisations that have applied already? |
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| 19:01.25 | lh | grits teeth, goes to dentist |
| 19:03.05 | mlankhorst | eep |
| 19:03.07 | mlankhorst | g'luck lh |
| 19:03.18 | lh | mlankhorst: thanks. |
| 19:03.19 | lh | ugh. |
| 19:04.00 | mlankhorst | :( |
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| 19:13.45 | dberkholz | Mathiasd1: http://twitter.com/gsoc |
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| 19:15.18 | Mathiasd1 | aah, useful |
| 19:15.19 | Mathiasd1 | thanks |
| 19:20.25 | schumaml | the application form could tell me that it was not saved *at the top* ... |
| 19:21.46 | mlankhorst | then you get complains from people who want it at bottom.. |
| 19:22.12 | summatusmentis | put it both places? :-P |
| 19:22.32 | mlankhorst | then you get people who say it's done twice.. |
| 19:23.20 | summatusmentis | obviously it's not perfect, but still |
| 19:23.37 | summatusmentis | making sure people see it by doing it twice makes some sense |
| 19:24.10 | schumaml | "same place as the message that it was saved", maybe? |
| 19:24.19 | schumaml | which is displayed at the top, at least |
| 19:24.27 | lil_Toady | if im already developing an open source project, and it applies for gsoc, can i apply for gsoc as student and continue developing it? |
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| 19:25.26 | ArthurLiu | lil_Toady, gsoc work has to be *new* work, ie. if you do something different, yes |
| 19:25.33 | summatusmentis | lil_Toady: like something individual you're doing? |
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| 19:26.02 | ArthurLiu | lil_Toady, but it's mostly up to your organization |
| 19:26.04 | lil_Toady | no, it's a pretty big and known project, not something i started |
| 19:26.22 | ArthurLiu | oh, I misread |
| 19:26.26 | lil_Toady | can i be one of it's mentors and students at once? |
| 19:26.36 | ArthurLiu | lil_Toady, that no |
| 19:26.40 | summatusmentis | lil_Toady: mentor and student at once is no |
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| 19:27.40 | lil_Toady | ok, but still can be a mentor of this one and student of another one? |
| 19:28.02 | summatusmentis | no |
| 19:28.05 | mlankhorst | sadly no |
| 19:28.09 | lil_Toady | aw |
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| 19:28.28 | mlankhorst | you can still help students, but can't be mentor |
| 19:28.40 | mlankhorst | if you want to be a student on a project |
| 19:29.56 | kblin | schumaml: I've filed a feature request for this already |
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| 20:00.40 | smtms | if a project is a "research project" am I supposed to do the research without collaboration or only the writing of the code should be without collaboration? |
| 20:00.54 | russellb | just finished my organization application, yay! |
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| 20:02.13 | MatthewWilkes | russellb: Cool! Which org? |
| 20:02.26 | russellb | asterisk.org |
| 20:02.29 | MatthewWilkes | ah cool |
| 20:02.51 | MatthewWilkes | We're thinking of using asterisk when we move into our new office |
| 20:02.56 | russellb | great :-) |
| 20:03.22 | MatthewWilkes | It's either that or 4 POTS phones being passed around ;) |
| 20:03.34 | MatthewWilkes | Guess which I'd prefer |
| 20:03.50 | sfb | russellb: Is your 2009 ideas page public? |
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| 20:04.11 | russellb | MatthewWilkes: it could be some combination of the two :-) |
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| 20:04.42 | russellb | sfb: yes, but it's still in a little bit of flux. http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/team/group/gsoc-2009/ideas.txt?view=markup |
| 20:05.43 | sfb | One of my other projects just wrote Asterix integration for AMI. |
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| 20:14.20 | electro | anyone know if you are a student if you should try contacting potential open source mentors/orgs now or wait until google posts the official list? |
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| 20:15.49 | mordante | until google posts an official list you won't know whether a project is in |
| 20:16.21 | mordante | but you can of course contact the organization already, which might increase your chances |
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| 20:19.47 | summatusmentis | you've got a good chance of your chosen org getting in if it has been allowed in the past |
| 20:19.59 | summatusmentis | although, not necessarily |
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| 20:22.27 | sfb | electro5125: If you have an organisation you're interested in it's beneficial to contact them in advance and start to build a relationship with them and their community. |
| 20:22.47 | sfb | electro5125: it'll make the process of applying and creating a project proposal easier and more likely to be successful. |
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| 20:41.42 | Vivek | I would like to know if students of IGNOU can apply for GSOC ? |
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| 20:42.33 | smtms | Vivek, what's IGNOU? |
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| 20:42.42 | ajuonline | Vivek: yes. |
| 20:42.49 | ajuonline | smtms: university. open. |
| 20:42.58 | Vivek | smtms: Indira Gandhi National Open University. |
| 20:43.11 | smtms | what's an "open" university? |
| 20:43.14 | ajuonline | Vivek: you need to be enrolled into some university program. and IGNOU is a University. |
| 20:43.43 | ajuonline | smtms: university running courses via Distance Learning. and/or via Contact Centres across India. |
| 20:43.57 | Vivek | ajuonline: what level of programming skillset does gsoc require ? |
| 20:44.19 | Vivek | ajuonline: beginner/intermediate/expert ? |
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| 20:44.26 | ajuonline | Vivek: depends onthe project you work on. gsoc is not a project. |
| 20:44.50 | Vivek | Can someone with beginner level knowledge of Python apply ? |
| 20:45.50 | spectie | depends on the project / task |
| 20:46.09 | Vivek | spectie: |
| 20:46.11 | smtms | Vivek, you can always apply |
| 20:46.12 | Vivek | spearce: ok |
| 20:46.14 | Landon | Vivek: indeed |
| 20:46.18 | smtms | Vivek, be prepared to learn a lot and quickly |
| 20:46.21 | Landon | ^ |
| 20:46.30 | Landon | I applied with beginner-mid knowledge of python |
| 20:46.46 | Vivek | smtms: More about me at http://vivekvc.freeshell.org |
| 20:47.02 | smtms | Vivek, did I ask about it? :-) |
| 20:47.06 | GabeS | Vivek: you can also take the next few weeks to learn more :) |
| 20:47.15 | Vivek | I am a systems administrator who is learning programming in python |
| 20:47.36 | Vivek | smtms: Just to let you all know where I stand in the scheme of things. |
| 20:48.12 | Vivek | I am generally considered to be a slow learner but I think I can put in some extra effort and pick up :) |
| 20:49.03 | smtms | Vivek, I suggest you find a project written in Python and try to read, understand and modify its code |
| 20:49.06 | smtms | Vivek, to see if you can do it |
| 20:49.22 | Vivek | smtms, Landon, GabeS and ajuonline: Thanks for your inputs and encouraging words. |
| 20:49.27 | Vivek | smtms: ok |
| 20:49.45 | Landon | cool where are you sysadminning? |
| 20:49.49 | ajuonline | Vivek: eager to learn is the key. and interest in the projcet, primarily. |
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| 20:49.59 | Vivek | ajuonline: ok |
| 20:51.08 | Vivek | I would be interested in gnowsys as I have been working with HBCSE for a while. |
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| 20:52.54 | ajuonline | Vivek: start communicating with the project/developers and exchange ideas and discuss |
| 20:53.11 | Vivek | ajuonline: ok. |
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| 21:23.30 | joshp | can i still qualify for gsoc if I work 40 hours night security with 95% of that time available for laptop use |
| 21:23.56 | smtms | joshp, you can always apply and mentoring org will decide if that is "good enough" for them |
| 21:24.06 | smtms | joshp, it sounds alright for the GSoC stuff, but for the security stuff... |
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| 21:24.31 | smtms | joshp, do you sleep during the day or work/study too? |
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| 21:24.46 | joshp | sleep until 2pm |
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| 21:26.47 | schumaml | joshp: you should be honest about this in your application, though |
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| 21:41.57 | SRabbelier | Gee, it takes 10 seconds to fetch less than 700 user entities from appengine... that's quite worrysome |
| 21:42.31 | MatthewWilkes | #loveszodb |
| 21:42.33 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 21:42.40 | MatthewWilkes | (hashtag, not channel) |
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| 21:52.40 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: you're on twitter? |
| 21:53.56 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: Yup, @matthewwilkes |
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| 21:54.41 | summatusmentis | \o/ |
| 21:54.47 | MatthewWilkes | ? |
| 21:55.02 | summatusmentis | nothing, I just get excited when people use twitter |
| 21:56.50 | ecin | summatusmentis: after seeing twitter on a political cartoon last week, I'm fully convinced it's gone completely mainstream. |
| 21:57.33 | summatusmentis | ecin: it's not mainstream until someone who knows nothing about technology comes up to me and goes "hey, you should check out this twitter thing, it's cooler than facebook" |
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| 21:58.11 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23loveszodb |
| 21:58.23 | kblin | would sound like a good reason _not_ to use it ;) |
| 21:58.42 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: I don't know what zodb is, but hey :) |
| 21:58.52 | summatusmentis | kblin: I kinda like the whole social thing |
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| 21:59.03 | summatusmentis | but like facebook, it'd need better filtering :) |
| 21:59.32 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: ZODB is really, really cool. Do you use Python? |
| 21:59.42 | summatusmentis | I've always meant to, but no |
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| 22:00.05 | MatthewWilkes | summatusmentis: Well, ZODB lets you transparently persist Python objects, is transactional, etc |
| 22:00.20 | summatusmentis | intriguing |
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| 22:00.40 | kblin | that's the zope object database, right? |
| 22:00.44 | MatthewWilkes | I use it almost exclusively when I need a datastore |
| 22:00.46 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Yup |
| 22:00.57 | MatthewWilkes | But doesnt have a dependency on Zope the application server |
| 22:02.36 | kblin | hmm, I've used sqlalchemy with sqlite so far :) |
| 22:02.52 | MatthewWilkes | You can undo transactions, define ways of conflict resolution or just retry modifications, use lots of different storage backends, spread it over multiple systems |
| 22:02.54 | kblin | I rarely need to store objects |
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| 22:03.28 | MatthewWilkes | One of my favourite things is timetravel mode which lets you just specify a datetime to mount the database in and it's as it was at that state (assuming you haven't rolled up the old data since then) |
| 22:04.32 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: It lets you completely forget about ORM stuff, just act on your internal app state |
| 22:04.52 | MatthewWilkes | the fact that it's going to be stored away to disc and persist between app runs doesn't really matter |
| 22:05.41 | MatthewWilkes | One of the things we have at work is a test machine that mounts live client sites using the newest version of their code but redirects all write operations to a local buffer in memory |
| 22:06.05 | MatthewWilkes | That way, we can run migrations and do testing on their newest data and the changes are ephemeral, wiped when you restart the instance |
| 22:06.32 | MatthewWilkes | It doesn't copy the entire database, it only grabs the pickled states of objects as and when needed |
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| 22:07.10 | MatthewWilkes | of course, if you're doing it a lot you can replicate it down |
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| 22:08.02 | MatthewWilkes | I've also sat in meetings with a client with my python interpreter having access to their entire site's object graph, and modified internal config states faster than I could using the web interfacre |
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| 22:08.33 | MatthewWilkes | I just do transaction.commit() and the changes are available on their site |
| 22:08.39 | MatthewWilkes | I #loveszodb |
| 22:10.04 | kblin | it sure sounds interesting |
| 22:10.50 | kblin | I'm not too big a fan of SQL :) |
| 22:11.34 | MatthewWilkes | I mean, it's no panacea, especially for heavy localised writes, but there are ways around that, just as there are problems and workaround for any storage backend |
| 22:13.33 | kblin | no, but I'm beginning to see how this would have affected my webapp's design |
| 22:14.38 | kblin | I've got a media repository browser with an object model matching the directories and files in the repo |
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| 22:15.22 | kblin | in my initial approach I actually pickled my whole directory tree into a file... |
| 22:15.58 | kblin | but this was getting sort of clumsy for a couple of thousand files |
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| 22:17.26 | kblin | of course looking back now I probably shouldn't have used pylons either |
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| 22:21.28 | kblin | but I'm still not sure what better platform is there that's using python |
| 22:22.04 | kblin | django is too focused on the database, from the impression I got |
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| 22:22.41 | jza | hi I am looking for information onhow to submit some of the ideas for Google Summer of code |
| 22:22.43 | lifeeth | kblin, try webpy |
| 22:22.53 | lifeeth | or web2py |
| 22:22.55 | jza | anyone have information on how to submit our projects? |
| 22:23.48 | kblin | jza: as a mentoring org? |
| 22:23.51 | kblin | ~faq |
| 22:24.12 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 22:24.12 | jza | yes I am from OpenOffice.org |
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| 22:24.24 | jza | ah great |
| 22:24.28 | kblin | jza: should be covered in there :) |
| 22:24.37 | jza | kblin: merci |
| 22:24.43 | kblin | my pleasure :) |
| 22:24.49 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: So, for the directories in that app I'd use ZODB's builtin OOBTree class which has pretty damn good scalability |
| 22:25.31 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: It has a mapping interface and ordering is unstable, but very quick with a low memory footprint |
| 22:27.37 | kblin | lifeeth: hm, interesting |
| 22:27.50 | jamesturk | any mentoring orgs mind sharing an example of their application template |
| 22:28.01 | jamesturk | trying to finish up our mentoring app. |
| 22:28.07 | kblin | I have zero time to rewrite this now, but if pylongs ever blows up on me, I'll certainly consider one of those |
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| 22:29.17 | MatthewWilkes | web2py smells, imo |
| 22:30.13 | lifeeth | MatthewWilkes, Well it can work on GAE, and all the other dbs without any significant changes to the code |
| 22:30.25 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: dunno, the feature list looks just like what I'd have needed |
| 22:30.26 | lifeeth | but for simple apps I would prefer webpy |
| 22:30.44 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: The examples I've seen all have too much magic for my tastes |
| 22:31.06 | lifeeth | MatthewWilkes, Then webpy perhaps :) |
| 22:31.21 | MatthewWilkes | Personally, I'd use Pylons or TG as a base and heavily customise thw WSGI stack |
| 22:33.07 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: you probably are a web programmer, though |
| 22:33.21 | jpirie23 | ~timeline |
| 22:33.22 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 timeline is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
| 22:33.29 | kblin | I had never heard of WSGI before starting my project |
| 22:34.16 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: Yeah, I wrote my first WSGI middleware today |
| 22:34.40 | MatthewWilkes | it wraps a simple HTTP proxy and performs a transform on URLs to members profiles to obfuscate their email address |
| 22:34.49 | MatthewWilkes | very simple, but worked well, happy with it |
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| 22:36.10 | kblin | and I only used python becuse before I tried PHP and realized I hate the guts of that |
| 22:36.18 | milki | lol |
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| 22:37.19 | MatthewWilkes | I read ESR's writeup of python the other day, made me smile |
| 22:38.05 | kblin | sadly writing webapps in C is kind of painful |
| 22:38.27 | jza | kblin: how are documentation projects perceived for a GSoC project? |
| 22:38.32 | SRabbelier | kblin: dear god, man, a web app in C?! |
| 22:38.35 | summatusmentis | people rave about either python or perl |
| 22:38.38 | SRabbelier | jza: they're not |
| 22:38.40 | summatusmentis | jza: disallowed, iirc |
| 22:38.42 | jza | is GSoC more toward code? |
| 22:38.46 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: I wrote some C the other day, couldn't do it anymore. |
| 22:38.48 | SRabbelier | jza: the goal of GSoC is to write code, not documentation |
| 22:38.55 | summatusmentis | Summer of Code |
| 22:38.58 | MatthewWilkes | 'hello' being invalid blew my mind |
| 22:39.02 | kblin | jza: Google Summer of Code.... yeah, I guess you could say that :) |
| 22:39.20 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: heheh, single instead of double quotes? |
| 22:39.27 | MatthewWilkes | and, ftr, I knew someone who wrote a webapp in haskell |
| 22:39.27 | kblin | yeah |
| 22:39.28 | jza | kblin: right I just dont expect anyone building a Summer of Docs :) |
| 22:39.32 | MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Yeah, mental, right? |
| 22:39.45 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: very obvious ;) |
| 22:40.04 | kblin | jza: GHOP allows for a wider range of projects, iirc |
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| 22:40.24 | SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hehe, totally :D |
| 22:40.32 | kblin | jza: and you could probably spend some of your own funds for documentation projects in a similar timeframe |
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| 22:41.42 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: well, switching between python and C is a bit weird |
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| 22:42.14 | kblin | I keep putting ; after python statements and tend to forget braces in C |
| 22:42.30 | MatthewWilkes | I only have 1 ; left in everyday python |
| 22:42.38 | MatthewWilkes | import pdb;pdb.set_trace() |
| 22:43.22 | kblin | but what really cost me a lot of time to find was that for i in range(0, 10) works different than for (i=0; i < 10; ++i) |
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| 22:43.44 | jonnymind | Hello All! |
| 22:44.07 | kblin | because python doesn't care if you go and change the value of i trying to affect the number of loops you still want to do |
| 22:44.11 | jonnymind | can I ask here to have a fast review on our idea list? |
| 22:44.14 | MatthewWilkes | ah |
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| 22:45.43 | summatusmentis | for some odd reason, python doesn't work for kernel coding :) |
| 22:45.47 | kblin | anyway, bedtime, need to get up early tomorrow |
| 22:45.56 | kblin | <3 C |
| 22:45.56 | SRabbelier | summatusmentis: it doesn't? gee.. that's weird :P |
| 22:46.05 | phrozn | I heard there was a information session in two cities today about google code. i heard there was going to be one like that in toronto, does anyone know when that is? |
| 22:46.22 | kblin | python does have it's advantages |
| 22:46.23 | summatusmentis | SRabbelier: I know right? Any recent coding projects I've done have been in C or Java (for class) |
| 22:46.31 | kblin | oh well |
| 22:46.55 | SRabbelier | kblin: obviously it doesnt' care if you change i |
| 22:47.00 | SRabbelier | kblin: you're iterating over an actual list :D |
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| 22:48.32 | jonnymind | I suppose not... |
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| 22:49.05 | summatusmentis | phrozn: not sure, @gsoc mentioned it though |
| 22:49.21 | jonnymind | Otherwise, where can I get some idea lists samples? |
| 22:49.46 | welterde | http://trac.i2p2.i2p.to/wiki/gsoc/ideas |
| 22:49.52 | g4g33k | hi. any idea if i can participate in gsoc using OPT (Optional Practical Training). The site mentions about CPT but not OPT. CPT is when you are still enrolled, OPT is when you've graduated |
| 22:50.04 | welterde | but not sure how "good" it is as an example |
| 22:50.08 | summatusmentis | phrozn: the link provided with the tweet just links to the timeline |
| 22:50.44 | jonnymind | welterde: thanks |
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| 23:03.33 | RuDeDoGg | Hello :D |
| 23:03.41 | jpirie23 | hello |
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| 23:04.24 | phrozn | summatusmentis: yeah i ran into all the same things. |
| 23:05.15 | RuDeDoGg | Is it possible to get into gsoc if I attend a small community college? |
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| 23:05.33 | Landon | RuDeDoGg: is it accredited? :P |
| 23:05.42 | RuDeDoGg | Yes :D |
| 23:05.48 | Landon | then yes |
| 23:05.57 | Landon | there have been some very successful people from community colleges |
| 23:06.06 | Landon | (see: webchick in the drupal community) |
| 23:06.08 | RuDeDoGg | oh great, that's what I was wondering |
| 23:06.22 | RuDeDoGg | I was worried they focused on getting the ivy leage students |
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| 23:08.06 | alexstre^ | what about if I studied computer science in college for 3 years, and now I'm studying anthropology ?:p |
| 23:08.11 | ojwb | RuDeDoGg: most students aren't from the US even: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/04/two-top-10s-for-google-summer-of-code.html |
| 23:08.23 | Landon | alexstre^: I don't think major matters |
| 23:08.27 | ojwb | alexstre^: there's no subject requirement |
| 23:08.44 | alexstre^ | perfect |
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| 23:09.27 | ojwb | tbh, having read compsci for a year or two doesn't usually give you a lot of practical coding skills |
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| 23:11.37 | RuDeDoGg | I'm a bit worried about working on these large projects |
| 23:11.43 | RuDeDoGg | I've actually never worked with a team |
| 23:12.05 | r0bby | RuDeDoGg: neither have a lot of the students |
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| 23:12.18 | RuDeDoGg | alright, I'm going to apply |
| 23:12.22 | RuDeDoGg | I hope I get in :) :) |
| 23:12.24 | ojwb | got to learn some time |
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| 23:12.32 | ojwb | or find a cave with internet and become a hermit |
| 23:13.06 | RuDeDoGg | ojwb: That's what I've been doing for a few years haha |
| 23:15.33 | r0bby | RuDeDoGg: tackle bugs |
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| 23:22.56 | spectie | man, my tagged and aligned corpus of icelandic--faroese just got a bit closer |
| 23:23.06 | spectie | pretty exciting |
| 23:23.08 | spectie | and with that |
| 23:23.11 | spectie | good night to all! |
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| 23:44.08 | cweagans | If I'm going to be 18 on July 25 of this year, am I still eligible to participate in GSOC? or, what's the cutoff date to be 18 for the GSOC? |
| 23:44.35 | danderson | ~faq |
| 23:44.36 | ibot | The GSoC 2009 FAQ is here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs |
| 23:44.41 | danderson | the answer is in there somewhere |
| 23:45.12 | danderson | You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 23:45.30 | danderson | ibot: learn age as <reply> You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 23:45.37 | danderson | grmbl |
| 23:45.40 | danderson | kicks ibot |
| 23:45.54 | danderson | ~learn age as You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 23:46.09 | danderson | LEARN DAMMIT |
| 23:46.22 | danderson | ah, screw you, stupid bot. |
| 23:46.33 | cweagans | ROFLMAO |
| 23:47.02 | ojwb | ~age is You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 23:47.03 | ibot | ...but age is already something else... |
| 23:47.09 | ojwb | @age |
| 23:47.11 | ojwb | ~age |
| 23:47.11 | ibot | I'm just born. |
| 23:47.15 | danderson | ~forget age |
| 23:47.15 | ibot | danderson: i forgot age |
| 23:47.16 | MatthewWilkes | what the fuck is this ibot anyway? |
| 23:47.20 | ojwb | ~age is You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 23:47.21 | ibot | ojwb: okay |
| 23:47.25 | ojwb | yay! |
| 23:47.30 | danderson | ojwb: cheers. |
| 23:47.33 | ojwb | it's like socbot, but much less good |
| 23:47.36 | Landon | ^ |
| 23:47.38 | danderson | still kicks ibot |
| 23:47.38 | MatthewWilkes | A tilde command marker? Weird. Didn't we have a socbot one last year? |
| 23:47.51 | MatthewWilkes | yeah, that one worked fine, I knew the commands, where did it go? |
| 23:47.55 | danderson | MatthewWilkes: yeah, but then ibot showed up, and apparently was better |
| 23:47.58 | ojwb | yeah, but having both was duplication u'see... |
| 23:48.04 | danderson | so I killed off socbot to avoid multiple botness |
| 23:48.07 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: -1 |
| 23:48.13 | ojwb | rise of the bots! |
| 23:48.31 | danderson | MatthewWilkes: hmm. |
| 23:48.45 | danderson | MatthewWilkes: if you volunteer to update the factoids, I can bring it back |
| 23:48.56 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: orgsbylang and orgsbycat were damn useful |
| 23:49.07 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: I would, but I won't have any time until the weekend at the earliest |
| 23:49.25 | MatthewWilkes | has bugs to fix, ideas lists to write, uni work to do, etc |
| 23:49.33 | danderson | MatthewWilkes: if you feel strongly enough about it, ping me this weekend then, and I'll bring it back for you |
| 23:49.43 | danderson | I won't bring it back now and have it serve stale factoids |
| 23:49.56 | MatthewWilkes | danderson: Shall do, sensible plan |
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| 23:52.17 | gwoo | hi all |
| 23:52.26 | gwoo | anyone have an example of "What is the application template you would like contributors to your organization to use." |
| 23:52.29 | ojwb | makes sense - the orgsbyX aren't useful until next week anyway |
| 23:53.33 | ojwb | http://www.google.com/search?q=gsoc+"application+template" |
| 23:53.45 | Landon | ojwb: still a good reference though |
| 23:53.55 | Landon | even if the org list isn't up to date |
| 23:53.57 | gwoo | ojwb: nice :) |
| 23:54.05 | ojwb | Landon: good point... |
| 23:54.33 | ojwb | gwoo: "N/A" is acceptable, but a template is preferred/recommended |
| 23:55.01 | ojwb | we didn't have one last year, and you have to prod for more information for many applications |
| 23:55.19 | gwoo | ojwb: i like the ones im finding, i think they are helpful |
| 23:55.21 | ojwb | if there#s a template and they don't fill in the boxes, then you can probably just reject them right away |
| 23:55.41 | ojwb | it's not a positive sign if they can't follow simple instructions accurately... |
| 23:56.32 | danderson | I remember Perl's template looked good to me last year |
| 23:56.41 | danderson | perl-specific, but can be generalized gracefully |
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| 23:57.18 | ojwb | got a link? |
| 23:58.04 | impl | ojwb: I saw someone recommend https://www.torproject.org/gsoc#Template earlier, and I like a lot of the questions on there |
| 23:58.10 | impl | using some as inspiration for ours |
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