| 00:00.09 | brlcad | having documented tasks to be completed with a clear "here is where you'd work, what you'd need to do" project plan in place for a new dev to run with (leaving all the implementation detail up to them), might inspire some work |
| 00:00.18 | Catfish_Man | true |
| 00:00.34 | brlcad | including files they'd have to work with, making the tasks small and glitzy/fun enough |
| 00:06.50 | brlcad | Catfish_Man: I'm not sure how much it'd help you, but I've been working on setting up something to similarly stimulate development by hosting a "feature-request-and-bug-fix-a-thon" |
| 00:07.11 | Catfish_Man | could work. I know mozilla's bugdays on irc usually get a good response |
| 00:07.18 | brlcad | sort of mini coding sprints inspired by ghop, use some of the gsoc mentor funding |
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| 00:17.13 | brlcad | the investment there is putting X weeks of contributor effort into managing the mini projects (which fortunately can even be performed by non-coders usually), to get Y weeks of contributed effort back -- where X will be > Y initially, but you're investing on educating new devs that are exploring the code base and getting up to speed on the project dynamics |
| 00:17.22 | brlcad | so that long-term, Y > X ;) |
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| 01:04.39 | ajuonline | r0bby: if someone can fill it up in 5 minutes, using his Blackberry. it'd take you even less! |
| 01:05.43 | r0bby | yeh but im trying to find all my shit from last thursday's digital electronics lab |
| 01:06.31 | Landon | a/me is blinking leds |
| 01:06.31 | Landon | woo |
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| 01:09.51 | r0bby | if this isn't too bad |
| 01:10.00 | r0bby | copy/paste jobs ftw! |
| 01:16.27 | ravenlock | hola. Thought I'd ask again this evening in hopes of hitting a diff audience.... |
| 01:17.24 | ravenlock | I'm doing me taxes with TT. I put in my 1099-misc from G from GSoC 2008. If I put it in the way G sent it... TT thinks I'm self employed and creates a huge tax hit. |
| 01:17.39 | ravenlock | because I have to essentially say "I performed services for Google". |
| 01:17.53 | ravenlock | but that seems odd. As I don't feel I "performed a service" for G. |
| 01:17.56 | ravenlock | any thoughts? |
| 01:18.18 | scorche | ravenlock: personal accountants are awesome ;) |
| 01:18.39 | ravenlock | yeah. cept thats spelled awe$ome. :/ |
| 01:18.53 | ravenlock | I don't have the luxury. |
| 01:18.59 | scorche | a lot of times they save you more money than you pay them |
| 01:19.17 | ravenlock | mmm. maybe in this case. |
| 01:19.44 | scorche | in most cases....though is GSoC is your only income, that might not be true |
| 01:19.51 | scorche | s/is/if\ |
| 01:20.11 | ravenlock | yeah. not my only income. I accepted our Org's funds. |
| 01:20.20 | ravenlock | I was/am an admin. (not student) |
| 01:20.29 | scorche | ah |
| 01:20.45 | ravenlock | so it was a fair chunk-o-change. |
| 01:21.05 | ravenlock | and creates a -1K diff in my refund. :/ |
| 01:21.10 | scorche | just dont go to some place like h&R block or something...get a real accountant |
| 01:21.15 | scorche | ouch |
| 01:21.20 | ravenlock | aye |
| 01:21.39 | scorche | yeah...is those funds put you into a different bracket, things could be touchy |
| 01:21.39 | ravenlock | just wondering how others reported theirs. |
| 01:21.46 | scorche | s/is/if ....again |
| 01:22.00 | ravenlock | I dont think it even did that. I think its cause I then get labelled as "self employed" |
| 01:22.02 | scorche | i dont know, but ianaa ;) |
| 01:22.09 | ravenlock | nods |
| 01:22.17 | scorche | heads off to go do things |
| 01:22.34 | ravenlock | thanks for your thoughts. :) |
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| 02:44.39 | beachsurfin | i'm considered a student at a university, but i'm not attending this Spring... would i have to be attending to be considered ? |
| 02:45.21 | beachsurfin | would i have to attend a summer class or something, or am i fine to apply without going to school this Spring and Summer? |
| 02:47.16 | Landon | are you going to be attending in the fall? |
| 02:47.39 | Landon | not sure, but I think that might be acceptable |
| 02:47.53 | Landon | check with the FAQ/etc before trusting me though |
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| 03:25.01 | r0bby | beachsurfin: i was in a similar situation |
| 03:25.13 | r0bby | you have to be registered for the fall semester |
| 03:26.26 | r0bby | goes back to hsi hw |
| 03:26.50 | Landon | r0bby: I cba to do my prelab, want to do it for me? |
| 03:27.01 | r0bby | fuck no |
| 03:27.05 | r0bby | I have my own shit |
| 03:27.11 | r0bby | looks like sleep is not coming |
| 03:27.12 | r0bby | SHIT |
| 03:27.16 | r0bby | closes putty |
| 03:27.18 | r0bby | adios |
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| 03:45.41 | beachsurfin | thanks a lot r0bby |
| 03:47.59 | beachsurfin | how many proposals can one person write? |
| 03:49.04 | beachsurfin | to rephrase, how many are allowed? |
| 03:49.27 | Landon | 20 |
| 03:49.39 | Landon | ideally you want to send a small amount of individually tailored proposals |
| 03:49.39 | Landon | ;) |
| 03:51.42 | beachsurfin | 20, sweet |
| 03:51.45 | beachsurfin | i can do that |
| 03:52.52 | Catfish_Man | it's really not recommended |
| 03:52.54 | llnz | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.00 | Catfish_Man | few people I'm aware of submit more than 6 or so good ones |
| 03:53.18 | Landon | word gets around between orgs if you use very similar proposals |
| 03:54.10 | beachsurfin | llnz: i will try my best, i also need to find out the entire process for an organization to be considered |
| 03:54.16 | beachsurfin | is cheching the wiki |
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| 05:11.33 | beachsurfin | argh, the screencast from http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Videos suggests "Don't annoy people, submit more than 2 projects or otherwise act in bad faith" |
| 05:12.15 | beachsurfin | I need to atleast submit 5 good proposals, at the very least, methinks |
| 05:12.34 | Landon | well |
| 05:12.39 | Landon | that still seems a few to me |
| 05:12.43 | Landon | I submitted one and got in |
| 05:13.01 | Landon | just find an org with an interesting project youd like to do and get in touch with the community |
| 05:13.09 | Landon | increases your chances a lot |
| 05:17.53 | summatusmentis | I agree, the community is where it's at |
| 05:18.31 | summatusmentis | submitting multiple good applications doesn't leave you time to get to know the community |
| 05:19.27 | Landon | you should probably look for old applications as well |
| 05:19.37 | summatusmentis | true |
| 05:19.39 | Landon | barely managed to crank one out, but I'm lazy |
| 05:19.48 | summatusmentis | they were very helpful to me |
| 05:20.05 | summatusmentis | I submitted... 3? 2 to the same org |
| 05:21.29 | beachsurfin | how many proposals, if more than one, can organization submit from a single person? |
| 05:21.50 | summatusmentis | what? |
| 05:23.21 | summatusmentis | like, could you get two positions with the same organization? |
| 05:29.28 | beachsurfin | i'm sure that's not possible, i was wondering if an organization could submit more than one proposal from one person |
| 05:29.59 | summatusmentis | organizations don't submit proposals... |
| 05:30.03 | beachsurfin | ah |
| 05:30.24 | beachsurfin | i thought it went to organizations who then passed it on to google |
| 05:30.32 | beachsurfin | my bad |
| 05:30.57 | summatusmentis | oh, not really. The organiation is allotted slots they can fill, and they decide who they want. They then tell google their choices |
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| 16:02.34 | MatthewWilkes | Good god, that's a bad site |
| 16:02.34 | MatthewWilkes | http://www.royal.gov.uk/ |
| 16:03.15 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, why? |
| 16:03.44 | Landon | www.kddresearch.org <-- worse :P |
| 16:03.45 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: Look at the source |
| 16:04.02 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: This was launched today replacing a 10 year old site |
| 16:04.35 | MatthewWilkes | The "Choose your realm" dropdown is hilariously useless |
| 16:04.51 | Landon | o.O |
| 16:04.54 | Landon | wowee |
| 16:04.58 | summatusmentis | MatthewWilkes: did they just hire a domain squatter company? |
| 16:04.59 | Landon | I figured it was a 0 year old site |
| 16:05.00 | Landon | 10* |
| 16:05.10 | Landon | is late for work |
| 16:05.16 | Landon | coincidentally, at KDD |
| 16:05.30 | MatthewWilkes | urgh, and the welsh and gaelic links go to SECTIONS, not translations |
| 16:08.07 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: I made a Plone (http://www.plone.org) skin a while ago to desensitise people to bad design |
| 16:08.08 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, is this about an ultra basic look for the webpage? |
| 16:08.13 | MatthewWilkes | It was yellow comic sans on cyan |
| 16:08.20 | MatthewWilkes | with marquees and blinks |
| 16:09.10 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: No, it's about it clearly not having been designed, just thrown together. The code is awful too. |
| 16:09.37 | MatthewWilkes | look at the URLs too: http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheEarlofWessex/The%20Earl%20of%20Wessex.aspx |
| 16:09.40 | MatthewWilkes | What's that?? |
| 16:10.54 | edvin_lt | maybe developers used whitespace language for the website :D |
| 16:12.48 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, oh |
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| 16:24.39 | Landon | heh |
| 16:24.44 | Landon | they cant even get capitalization right |
| 16:31.16 | MatthewWilkes | Still, http://www.jagdeeshraja.com/ is the worst site I've seen in a long time |
| 16:33.05 | easwar | +1 MatthewWilkes |
| 16:33.21 | easwar | can't even bother to make text flow around images |
| 16:34.04 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: The text is IN the images |
| 16:34.13 | easwar | yeah |
| 16:34.18 | MatthewWilkes | It's mental |
| 16:34.56 | Landon | haha |
| 16:35.02 | Landon | I like the awards pages |
| 16:35.12 | Landon | esp the w3c html 4.0 compliant :P |
| 16:36.08 | easwar | I'm speaking of the stupid rose or whatever on the home page |
| 16:36.18 | easwar | text behind |
| 16:36.19 | Landon | yeah |
| 16:36.24 | easwar | *behind it |
| 16:36.30 | Landon | http://www.jagdeeshraja.com/img/jd_home_b.jpg |
| 16:36.33 | Landon | lovely :P |
| 16:36.41 | easwar | How are his clients ever suppose to be able to read it? |
| 16:37.03 | desowin_ | omg |
| 16:37.14 | easwar | lol |
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| 16:38.12 | Landon | text on Awards and Contact is the same |
| 16:38.30 | Landon | shame on you MatthewWilkes ! |
| 16:38.39 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: ? |
| 16:38.45 | Landon | "This is personal, and not intended for the public use, please do not forward the URL to your friends." |
| 16:38.48 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 16:38.50 | MatthewWilkes | True |
| 16:38.59 | Landon | although... "Please send me a mail if you find any difficulty in viewing the site" |
| 16:39.03 | MatthewWilkes | Maybe I don't consider you friends! |
| 16:39.51 | Landon | ok |
| 16:39.54 | Landon | works for me! |
| 16:40.04 | easwar | lol |
| 16:40.18 | MatthewWilkes | hugs Landon |
| 16:41.09 | easwar | Does Banshee media player have a history of being associated with GSoC? |
| 16:41.44 | summatusmentis | wasn't an org in '08 |
| 16:42.14 | easwar | hmm, thank you summatusmentis , wasn't GSoC started in 05? |
| 16:42.37 | summatusmentis | yes |
| 16:42.43 | summatusmentis | looks like Banshee has never been an org |
| 16:43.13 | easwar | hmm,that puts kind of a hole in my safety net |
| 16:43.22 | summatusmentis | you could get them to apply this time |
| 16:43.34 | easwar | summatusmentis, being a student? |
| 16:43.59 | summatusmentis | work with them now, and try and move them towards applying to be an org, so that you can apply as a student |
| 16:44.10 | easwar | oh |
| 16:44.57 | summatusmentis | it can be done |
| 16:45.17 | summatusmentis | particularly if you're already part of their community |
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| 16:45.51 | easwar | summatusmentis, if you count a few hours into using it as part of community,yes :P |
| 16:46.03 | summatusmentis | so they don't actually know who you are :-P |
| 16:46.04 | k03chandra | i am into finals of code for freedom contest sponsored by sun microsystems |
| 16:46.07 | k03chandra | will it help? |
| 16:46.23 | k03chandra | is it a part of orgs? |
| 16:46.26 | summatusmentis | k03chandra: it'll be something you can list as experience |
| 16:46.27 | easwar | summatusmentis, yes,lol |
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| 16:49.14 | easwar | has a (blockbuster,IMO) idea,which I haven't made much way forward with my target project |
| 16:49.31 | summatusmentis | easwar: where do you want to apply to? |
| 16:49.47 | easwar | summatusmentis, Rhythmbox |
| 16:49.50 | easwar | aka GNOME |
| 16:49.55 | summatusmentis | yeh |
| 16:50.00 | easwar | (or a part of it) |
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| 16:50.22 | summatusmentis | I feel like applying to GNOME or KDE would just be incredibly nerve-wracking |
| 16:50.52 | easwar | summatusmentis, why so?big pressure with big projects? |
| 16:50.58 | summatusmentis | yeah |
| 16:51.05 | easwar | hmm |
| 16:51.06 | r0bby | I dunno where i'm applying |
| 16:51.09 | summatusmentis | you're just competing against a lot more people |
| 16:51.34 | easwar | summatusmentis, which is why I was looking for a safety net :-P |
| 16:51.39 | summatusmentis | yeh |
| 16:51.51 | summatusmentis | r0bby: don't wanna do OpenMRS again? |
| 16:51.58 | vuntz | summatusmentis: well, you just need motivation and a good project (and possibly show with a few patches that you can do it) |
| 16:52.18 | summatusmentis | vuntz: yeh, I suppose so. It's just daunting |
| 16:52.26 | vuntz | (I was a soc admin for GNOME in the past few years) |
| 16:52.33 | r0bby | summatusmentis: not sure I can |
| 16:52.40 | r0bby | I've yet to complete my 2008 project :'( |
| 16:52.46 | vuntz | summatusmentis: nah, really. We're not eating people ;-) |
| 16:52.49 | r0bby | uggggggggggggggggh |
| 16:53.01 | r0bby | I'd have to kiss paul/burke's ass big time |
| 16:53.12 | r0bby | s/ass/butt/ |
| 16:53.18 | summatusmentis | r0bby: really? are they angry? |
| 16:53.22 | r0bby | no |
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| 16:53.27 | summatusmentis | did you get paid in full? |
| 16:53.27 | r0bby | just not sure |
| 16:53.30 | r0bby | yes |
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| 16:53.43 | r0bby | I had extenuating circumstances |
| 16:53.48 | summatusmentis | vuntz: I know you're not eating people, i'd just be worried... |
| 16:53.50 | r0bby | Uncle passed away |
| 16:53.54 | summatusmentis | oh right, I knew that |
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| 16:56.05 | r0bby | I was upfront w/ my mentor when i saw that finishing was gonna be next to impossible, I'm gonna finish...just don't have the free time |
| 16:58.08 | r0bby | I will finish -- it's not in me to NOT finish when finishing has such a GREAT reward :D |
| 16:58.24 | r0bby | saving the world and helping people :D |
| 17:02.16 | easwar | lol r0bby |
| 17:02.48 | r0bby | i'm serious |
| 17:03.07 | r0bby | it'll make data entry easier, ergo giving more time to help people; ergo SAVING THE WORLD! |
| 17:03.19 | r0bby | I need more caffiene. |
| 17:03.21 | r0bby | not enough. |
| 17:03.30 | easwar | really doesn't know what openMRS is |
| 17:03.37 | easwar | looks up Google |
| 17:03.39 | kblin | easwar: he's right |
| 17:03.49 | kblin | openMRS really saves lives |
| 17:04.05 | r0bby | http://openmrs.org |
| 17:04.09 | easwar | kblin, I'm searching,I'm searching |
| 17:04.28 | easwar | ;) |
| 17:04.32 | easwar | thanks r0bby |
| 17:04.36 | r0bby | http://openmrs.org/wiki/GroovyForms_Module |
| 17:04.41 | r0bby | ^ my project |
| 17:04.42 | MatthewWilkes | r0bby: Ah, you did openMRS? I got a few lifts from their mentors at the summit, good lads |
| 17:04.46 | easwar | Magnetic Resonance Something? |
| 17:04.48 | r0bby | ah |
| 17:04.52 | r0bby | yes they are awesome |
| 17:04.54 | r0bby | easwar: no |
| 17:04.57 | r0bby | Medical records system |
| 17:04.59 | easwar | oh,oops |
| 17:05.09 | r0bby | you're thinking MRI |
| 17:05.20 | easwar | saw the webpage after the <Return> failure |
| 17:05.22 | easwar | :P |
| 17:05.23 | r0bby | MatthewWilkes: they're good people :) |
| 17:05.47 | MatthewWilkes | yup |
| 17:05.48 | r0bby | Just wish burke was an easier man to get in touch with... |
| 17:07.28 | easwar | summons burke(whoever that is) |
| 17:07.36 | r0bby | easwar: my mentor |
| 17:07.42 | burke | there |
| 17:07.45 | burke | tell me r0bby |
| 17:07.47 | r0bby | please go back to your nick.. |
| 17:07.49 | burke | :P |
| 17:07.56 | r0bby | you are NOT cool enough |
| 17:07.59 | r0bby | get an MD |
| 17:08.06 | burke | r0bby, protected,Ill be back in 30 secs |
| 17:08.12 | r0bby | _AND_ be an amazing coder. |
| 17:08.17 | burke | ah,no,it's not |
| 17:08.26 | r0bby | _AND_ create an amazing Medical records system |
| 17:08.42 | r0bby | two MDs founded this project |
| 17:08.43 | easwar | r0bby, you are giving me an inferiority complex |
| 17:08.46 | easwar | :P |
| 17:08.59 | r0bby | :-) |
| 17:09.24 | easwar | IS pursuing Engineering,though |
| 17:10.08 | easwar | which reminds me,I have a 17 page assignment to write,to be submitted tomorrow |
| 17:11.30 | easwar | r0bby, Is your mentor's first name james? |
| 17:11.50 | r0bby | no... |
| 17:11.55 | easwar | ok |
| 17:11.59 | r0bby | look at my project page |
| 17:12.02 | r0bby | it says who my mentor is. |
| 17:12.16 | r0bby | is pursuing Cs. |
| 17:12.18 | r0bby | CS* |
| 17:12.22 | r0bby | refuses to do engineering |
| 17:12.23 | easwar | hmm |
| 17:12.28 | r0bby | I REFUSE to go beyond calc 2 |
| 17:12.30 | easwar | checks |
| 17:12.36 | easwar | r0bby, ok |
| 17:12.38 | easwar | good |
| 17:12.41 | easwar | :P |
| 17:12.44 | r0bby | _REFUSE_ |
| 17:12.49 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: What form of engineering? |
| 17:13.20 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, Electronics and Communications |
| 17:13.27 | easwar | undergrad |
| 17:13.33 | MatthewWilkes | cool |
| 17:13.42 | MatthewWilkes | is reading for a BA in German |
| 17:13.44 | easwar | clarifies,in pursuit of Bachelors |
| 17:15.35 | r0bby | pukes |
| 17:15.47 | r0bby | part of my degree requires a digital electronics course |
| 17:15.52 | r0bby | _DESPISE_ it. |
| 17:16.43 | easwar | r0bby, Why not switch to Information Technology or something similar? |
| 17:17.05 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: CS is very different at different institutions |
| 17:17.15 | MatthewWilkes | I did no electronics when I was a CS student |
| 17:17.20 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, true |
| 17:17.31 | MatthewWilkes | There was Computer Systems Engineering which is about 75% compsci and 25% elecy |
| 17:17.52 | r0bby | easwar: because, I hate IT w/ a passion |
| 17:17.54 | easwar | elecy? |
| 17:18.12 | easwar | r0bby, then why did you take up CompSci? |
| 17:18.25 | r0bby | because CS isn't IT? |
| 17:18.36 | r0bby | this is where people get it wrong |
| 17:18.57 | easwar | keeps forgetting there's an assignment to write |
| 17:19.03 | easwar | kicks easwar |
| 17:19.17 | r0bby | CS isn't IT... |
| 17:19.56 | r0bby | CS is theoretical |
| 17:20.10 | MatthewWilkes | easwar: Electrical Engineering |
| 17:20.21 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, oh |
| 17:20.36 | r0bby | I took up issue when they merged the CS dept with the 'applied technologies' dept |
| 17:20.45 | r0bby | which is a big way of saying "IT" |
| 17:20.47 | MatthewWilkes | I would, too |
| 17:20.58 | easwar | has no idea |
| 17:21.05 | easwar | not the faintest |
| 17:21.13 | r0bby | I brought this up w/ the dept chair of that dept who just happened to be my digital electronics prof |
| 17:21.14 | MatthewWilkes | We are lucky, we've got excellent quantum and algorithms departments |
| 17:21.19 | MatthewWilkes | So v. theoretical |
| 17:21.29 | r0bby | she said it's not gonna happen that CS will turn into an IT degree |
| 17:21.53 | MatthewWilkes | It's good to read about the fundamentals of a subject and have your lecturer's name on them |
| 17:21.53 | r0bby | lucky i got out before the switch :D |
| 17:22.13 | r0bby | ohh |
| 17:22.14 | MatthewWilkes | Like the Deutsch-Josza algorithm, for example (Richard Josza was my tutor) |
| 17:22.15 | r0bby | my lab today |
| 17:22.25 | r0bby | had 1 as a prime number! |
| 17:22.30 | r0bby | <3 that |
| 17:22.43 | r0bby | I brought that up and she was like 'i pulled this from a book' |
| 17:22.54 | r0bby | I replied, 'now that scares me' |
| 17:23.29 | kblin | r0bby: depends on the exact definition of what a prime number is |
| 17:23.40 | MatthewWilkes | I wasn't comfortable with 1 as non-prime for a long time |
| 17:23.51 | easwar | had that idea too |
| 17:23.52 | kblin | if the book is older, it still might have 1 as a prime |
| 17:23.56 | MatthewWilkes | but I suppose it is the lesser of two evils |
| 17:24.21 | kblin | dunno, is there a reason for 1 not being a prime number? as opposed to just some formalism? |
| 17:24.35 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: All non-primes have a unique prime decomposition |
| 17:24.40 | MatthewWilkes | eg: 15 is 3, 5 |
| 17:24.47 | MatthewWilkes | if you allow 1 it is no longer unique |
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| 17:25.20 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, point |
| 17:25.39 | MatthewWilkes | Of course, then you want to know what it is for 1 |
| 17:25.40 | easwar | according to that definition,1 is non-prime |
| 17:25.47 | easwar | (I assume) |
| 17:25.55 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, yes |
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| 17:26.00 | MatthewWilkes | and you have to have a empty list with an implicit 1 * each element |
| 17:26.07 | MatthewWilkes | it's not fun |
| 17:26.18 | MatthewWilkes | hence why I was uncomfortable. Still am, I suppose |
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| 17:33.09 | Landon | easwar|away: what engineering? |
| 17:33.26 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: [17:13] <easwar> MatthewWilkes, Electronics and Communications |
| 17:33.35 | easwar|away | ty MatthewWilkes |
| 17:33.57 | Landon | o.O |
| 17:34.34 | Landon | close to me though "{ |
| 17:34.35 | Landon | :P |
| 17:34.46 | Landon | is in computer engineering |
| 17:34.49 | danderson | wikipedia has a spiel on the primality of 1 |
| 17:34.54 | Landon | probably the embedded systems track |
| 17:34.55 | easwar|away | Landon, hmm |
| 17:35.17 | easwar|away | Landon, learning embedded systems in this semester |
| 17:35.18 | danderson | it's only fairly recent (50y or so) that the definition of a prime number is that it has exactly two distinct divisors, 1 and itself (which excludes 1) |
| 17:35.35 | Landon | neat |
| 17:35.39 | Landon | I think I'm starting it next year |
| 17:35.41 | danderson | it changed mostly because of the prime number decomposition theorem that MatthewWilkes gave |
| 17:35.42 | Landon | at least by spring |
| 17:35.50 | Landon | still doing odds and ends now |
| 17:35.54 | danderson | and also because prime numbers have some cool properties that 1 doesn't |
| 17:36.01 | danderson | and so should not properly be considered a prime |
| 17:36.07 | Landon | 1 is the loneliest number |
| 17:36.10 | danderson | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number#Primality_of_one |
| 17:36.27 | Landon | woot, got dual monitors working finally |
| 17:36.31 | easwar|away | lol Landon |
| 17:36.35 | Landon | goes to find some spiffy 3840x1200 backgrounds going |
| 17:36.41 | easwar|away | danderson, cool properties? |
| 17:37.07 | easwar|away | Landon, that's outrageous |
| 17:37.27 | danderson | easwar|away: cool properties that I could not understand, so I did not reproduce them :) |
| 17:37.38 | easwar|away | lol danderson |
| 17:37.39 | danderson | soething about Euler's totient |
| 17:37.52 | easwar|away | begs off,and regrets he asked |
| 17:37.55 | Landon | easwar|away: yeah, we got new monitors :) |
| 17:37.55 | easwar|away | :P |
| 17:38.02 | Landon | so I put the old one back up |
| 17:38.13 | Landon | hopefully they weren't planning on getting rid of it or anything |
| 17:38.30 | danderson | Landon: like the dual 24" ? :) |
| 17:38.41 | danderson | has that configuration (and resolution) @work and @home |
| 17:38.49 | Landon | yup, dual 24s |
| 17:39.25 | Landon | over the summer there were some really nice 24" sun monitors |
| 17:39.29 | Landon | but I have no clue what happened to those :( |
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| 17:41.09 | GrandAdmiralMCB | hello all |
| 17:41.48 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I'm a computer science student interested in helping out with the GSoC 2009 |
| 17:41.59 | Landon | helping out or participating in? :) |
| 17:42.17 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I want to participate |
| 17:42.26 | GrandAdmiralMCB | :) |
| 17:42.37 | Landon | name sounds familiar, were you around last summer too? |
| 17:42.39 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I specialize in C/C++ and Java |
| 17:42.45 | GrandAdmiralMCB | no, but we did talk earlier |
| 17:42.52 | GrandAdmiralMCB | about a month or two ago |
| 17:42.54 | Landon | ah |
| 17:43.21 | GrandAdmiralMCB | are you a moderator for this? |
| 17:43.29 | Landon | nope, just a one-time student so far |
| 17:43.36 | GrandAdmiralMCB | cool |
| 17:44.08 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I'm in a genetics class right now |
| 17:45.11 | GrandAdmiralMCB | but I'm also taking an Advanced Data structures class |
| 17:45.55 | GrandAdmiralMCB | aha! |
| 17:46.05 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I learned how to set this to startup on this channel |
| 17:46.18 | Landon | ++ |
| 17:46.42 | Landon | sidenote: digitalblasphemy looks amazing on these monitors :P |
| 17:48.30 | GrandAdmiralMCB | haha |
| 17:50.20 | easwar|away | Landon, linkage? |
| 17:50.29 | Landon | www.digitalblasphemy.com |
| 17:50.37 | easwar|away | oh |
| 17:50.44 | Landon | subscription site, but there are free galleries |
| 17:50.51 | easwar|away | thought themes and wallpapers |
| 17:51.03 | Landon | ah |
| 17:51.07 | Landon | just wallpapers :) |
| 17:51.15 | GrandAdmiralMCB | I like it |
| 17:51.30 | Landon | I wish I had a legitimate use for tri-screen wallpapers ;) |
| 17:51.34 | Landon | 7680x1600 :o |
| 17:51.36 | GrandAdmiralMCB | haha |
| 17:51.37 | easwar|away | Landon, lol |
| 17:52.06 | GrandAdmiralMCB | so anyone getting invovled with any projects yet? |
| 17:53.53 | easwar|away | wishes he could |
| 17:54.05 | GA_MATT | me 2 |
| 17:55.42 | easwar|away | I now remember I had d/led Crucible from there |
| 17:56.03 | Landon | hoohoo |
| 17:56.09 | Landon | just downloaded the whole dualscreen archive |
| 17:56.14 | Landon | and set up a wallpaper randomizer |
| 17:56.15 | Landon | :D |
| 17:56.24 | easwar|away | Landon, distro? |
| 17:56.28 | Landon | ubuntu |
| 17:56.39 | easwar | Landon, 9.04? |
| 17:56.42 | easwar | 8.10? |
| 17:56.46 | Landon | 8.10 |
| 17:56.57 | Landon | I'm not much for living on the edge anymore |
| 17:57.04 | Landon | closest I get is enabling the proposed repos ;) |
| 17:57.09 | easwar | Landon, hmm,which randomizer? |
| 17:57.13 | easwar | Landon, lol |
| 17:57.15 | Landon | wallpaper-tray |
| 17:57.40 | easwar | apt-cache searches |
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| 17:59.01 | mib_83ua1f | hi easwar |
| 17:59.13 | easwar | hi mib_83ua1f |
| 17:59.23 | mib_83ua1f | which city ? |
| 17:59.30 | easwar | mib_83ua1f, Bombay |
| 17:59.41 | mib_83ua1f | cool |
| 18:00.01 | easwar | mib_83ua1f, do you have another nick? |
| 18:00.15 | mib_83ua1f | ? i can pick one up |
| 18:01.22 | easwar | midbit, still don't recognize |
| 18:01.33 | MatthewWilkes | By the way, happy darwin day everyone! |
| 18:01.45 | Landon | happy what day |
| 18:02.07 | MatthewWilkes | Landon: Darwin's 200th birthday |
| 18:02.14 | easwar | MatthewWilkes, yeah,to you too |
| 18:02.18 | midbit | easwar: oh that way, i dont know know. I just assumed you're from ind :) |
| 18:02.54 | Landon | aha |
| 18:02.54 | easwar | midbit, ohk |
| 18:05.22 | easwar | though a /whois would have exposed me all right |
| 18:05.26 | easwar | :) |
| 18:05.38 | easwar | not now though |
| 18:05.50 | midbit | hehe |
| 18:05.55 | midbit | easwar: you're in ETC? |
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| 18:06.01 | easwar | midbit, yes |
| 18:06.11 | easwar | midbit, where are you from? |
| 18:06.12 | midbit | cool |
| 18:06.15 | midbit | i am from bbsr |
| 18:06.19 | midbit | bhubaneswar |
| 18:06.24 | easwar | oh |
| 18:06.29 | midbit | i am in etc too |
| 18:06.36 | easwar | undergrad/postgrad? |
| 18:06.43 | Landon | is in /etc editing your confs |
| 18:06.44 | midbit | undergrad :) |
| 18:06.51 | easwar | lol Landon |
| 18:07.09 | easwar | midbit, your first GSoC this time? |
| 18:07.28 | midbit | yeah, Actually i am kinda perplexed as to how to go about it :s |
| 18:07.55 | easwar | midbit, /join ##gsoc-india |
| 18:07.59 | easwar | 2008 guys |
| 18:08.19 | easwar | rather here too, ajuonline vimzard |
| 18:08.25 | easwar | meet midbit |
| 18:08.31 | midbit | ty easwar :) |
| 18:08.34 | vimzard | easwar: hey |
| 18:08.41 | easwar | sid0__, |
| 18:08.42 | midbit | hi vimzard |
| 18:08.47 | vimzard | midbit: hey |
| 18:09.04 | easwar | vimzard, midbit is participating in SoC 09,from Bhubaneshwar |
| 18:09.07 | easwar | :) |
| 18:09.18 | vimzard | midbit: cool :-). what are you interested in? |
| 18:09.30 | vimzard | easwar: i gathered from the logs and from the fact that he's on #gsoc ;-) |
| 18:09.54 | easwar | vimzard, hmm,good fast read of scrollback |
| 18:10.25 | vimzard | easwar: well it was just at the top of my window... ;-) |
| 18:10.30 | midbit | vimzard: well, id see if there is some java oriented thing |
| 18:10.42 | vimzard | *gasp* |
| 18:11.00 | vimzard | midbit: sorry, i'm a bit anti-java ish of a person. but will not flame |
| 18:11.05 | midbit | hehe |
| 18:11.11 | vimzard | counts 1 to 10 |
| 18:11.19 | midbit | vimzard: i also wanted to work on pidgin last year |
| 18:11.23 | midbit | but then didn't apply |
| 18:11.43 | midbit | the GSoC 2008 voice/video thing for pidgin was quite interesting |
| 18:11.53 | vimzard | midbit: cool :-). which year are you in? |
| 18:11.56 | vimzard | midbit: yep! |
| 18:12.06 | midbit | vimzard: 2nd |
| 18:12.08 | midbit | vimzard: you? |
| 18:12.15 | vimzard | midbit: same :-) |
| 18:12.27 | vimzard | seems to be very free with the smileys today |
| 18:12.46 | midbit | cool |
| 18:12.52 | easwar | runs around ragging the juniors |
| 18:12.59 | midbit | vimzard: you participated last year ? |
| 18:13.27 | easwar | is in third year |
| 18:13.44 | vimzard | midbit: yeah |
| 18:14.02 | midbit | cool, which project? easwar, you also participated last year? |
| 18:14.22 | easwar | midbit, nope,my first GSoC too |
| 18:14.33 | midbit | ah. |
| 18:14.36 | easwar | nods off |
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| 18:16.09 | easwar | is awakened by IM ping |
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| 18:26.52 | easwar | parts |
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| 18:27.14 | danderson | so the IRC protocol said immediately after you said so |
| 18:27.15 | danderson | ... |
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| 21:41.46 | Catfish_Man | hi folks |
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| 21:54.20 | summatusmentis | hi Catfish_Man |
| 21:54.30 | Catfish_Man | hi summatusmentis |
| 21:54.36 | summatusmentis | howsit? |
| 21:54.43 | Catfish_Man | pretty decent |
| 21:54.47 | Catfish_Man | had some tasty chinese food |
| 21:55.11 | Landon | I could use some of that |
| 21:55.13 | Landon | so hungry |
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| 22:14.25 | summatusmentis | oooh... not that big of a fan of chinese, but japanese is delicious |
| 22:15.18 | kblin | wonders why somebody would like to hire me as a window administrator |
| 22:15.44 | kblin | it seems like windows usually are stuck in walls and don't need a lot of administering |
| 22:16.28 | kblin | I'd love to know more about this job, but the attachment is in a format that by all means should be outlawed |
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| 22:18.41 | Landon | docx? |
| 22:18.45 | Landon | xps? |
| 22:18.51 | kblin | docx |
| 22:24.31 | scorche | ick |
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| 22:32.47 | kblin | "By providing superior service to both client and candidate <company x> employs a win-win-win approach to executive search between client, candidate, and consultant." |
| 22:32.51 | kblin | uhrg |
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| 22:36.46 | Kraln | ugh |
| 22:42.02 | kblin | and the stupid headhunter didn't even google me |
| 22:47.58 | Ori_B | kblin: quote that and mail back a one word reply: "Bullshit" |
| 22:48.01 | Ori_B | :P |
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| 22:49.05 | Landon | or ask them how everyone can win in a zero sum game |
| 22:49.59 | kblin | I'll just pull a strongbad on that email |
| 22:50.15 | Landon | heh |
| 22:50.31 | Landon | here's how we keep politicianvnig incriminating sex tapes/scandals/whatever |
| 22:50.37 | Landon | politicians* from having* |
| 22:50.39 | Landon | http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/09/senate.porn.candidate/index.html |
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| 22:59.02 | r0bby | hungry damn it |
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| 23:57.07 | MatthewWilkes | hehehe, just had a plone usergroup meeting - one of the guys there runs the local media/web/etc mailing list |
| 23:57.23 | MatthewWilkes | apparently someone approached him for help setting up a bristol flash usergrou] |
| 23:57.37 | MatthewWilkes | Which is what that mailing list was 10 years ago |
