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11:00.37thebolthi kblin
11:00.42thebolthow do you do?
11:01.02kblinhi
11:01.43kblinexcited, I'm starting with my thesis today
11:01.54theboltah, nice
11:01.56ajuonlinegood luck! kblin
11:01.58ajuonlineon what area?
11:01.59theboltwhat's the topic?
11:02.34kblinProtein engineering on aconitases
11:05.00kblinthough first I'll be datamining
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14:23.05[mharrison]Blah, another Vuze redesign
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19:52.16alemendrasI am new to gsoc and was wondering if anyone would have a recommendation for an open source project that is based in java and fairly small
19:53.02ajuonlinealemendras: too many contraints
19:53.07ajuonlineconstraints*
19:53.14ajuonlineopen source is a free world :P
19:53.27ajuonlineand the project size you want is a small one
19:53.58alemendrasan adium sized project not a mozilla sized project
19:54.20Catfish_Manalemendras: Openfire perhaps?
19:54.32Catfish_Man(java xmpp server, ~300k lines iirc)
19:56.14TobiasFaror tigase, java too...but performance oriented
19:56.52alemendraswhat are some java open source projects that have been part of gsoc in the past?
19:57.17Catfish_Manboth of the ones mentioned have, afaik
19:59.54nextgensdid you mean small in terms of number of lines of code or small in terms of number of devs?
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20:03.23ajuonlinejingle sticks r0bby stinks
20:03.47r0bbyhttp://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/fail-owned-warning-trespassers-will-be-prostituted-sign-fail.jpg
20:04.07ajuonliner0bby: dont start spanning everyone :P
20:05.58r0bbyHEY!
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20:06.10ajuonlinei mean
20:06.18ajuonlineshould be sleeping
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20:14.04matthewwilkes_yay, travel reimbursed
20:14.27Ivanovic:)
20:15.33matthewwilkes_Well, confirmation from google that it's left their account, not in mine yet
20:15.43matthewwilkes_SWIFT my arse
20:16.12Ivanovichehe, so it will take 4 more days...
20:19.31matthewwilkes_Yeah, I got used to instant transfers far too quickly
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21:27.09mib_33b51eI am a java programmer.  how can I work on an open source project?
21:27.46smtmsmib_33b51e, www.apache.org, they have a thousand open source projects in Java
21:27.59durin42mib_33b51e: There are lots of projects in Java. I'd recommend finding a project that does something you're interested in and see what you can do to help.
21:28.27mib_33b51ebut i don´t even know how to find projects that are using java
21:29.13smtmsmib_33b51e, sourceforge and/or freshmeat should allow you to search by project language
21:47.30nextgensmib_33b51e> might want to check out freenet :)
21:51.51mib_33b51ewhats freenet
21:57.58mib_33b51edoes anyone know anything about the Lobo project?
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22:45.39mib_33b51ewhat are people's ideas for gsoc?
22:47.48araujo?
22:48.32mib_33b51ewhat open source projects are you working on?
22:49.21araujoseveral ...
22:49.29araujoGentoo mainly
22:49.34mib_33b51eany in java?
22:50.20araujono
22:50.50mib_33b51eis java used anywhere?
22:51.13JeffMyas
22:51.20JeffMyes even
22:51.25mib_33b51efor what?
22:51.30JeffMmany things
22:51.34summatusmentisr0bby was doing something sort of related to Java... groovy, I think he called it
22:51.35JeffMwhat are you looking for?
22:51.49r0bbygroovy
22:51.51araujoI'd say fewer than other languages though in FOSS
22:51.59mib_33b51eI am learning java but am tired of book exercises and want to try an open source project
22:52.02r0bbyhttp://openmrs.org/wiki/GroovyForms_Module
22:52.07r0bbyI need to get back to that
22:52.20JeffMsearch sf or freshmeat and see what is out there
22:52.36JeffMSoC is techincaly over for this year
22:52.51mib_33b51esummer 09
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22:52.58summatusmentisr0bby: I need to get back to mine too
22:53.05JeffMgoogle has not said if they are going to do a 09 or not
22:53.14araujomib_33b51e, it's fine, there are plenty of open source projects you can start with
22:53.32araujomib_33b51e, just pick one you are interested at
22:53.39mib_33b51eeverytime I look it seems like they are huge projects are aren´t active
22:53.44r0bbyif I don't finish mine, i'm gonna be a dead man
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22:54.08r0bbywell not dead but I think my mentor is in the mafia...wait no...he's just an evil...no wait nevermind
22:54.31r0bbyI mentored myself basically lol
22:54.37araujomib_33b51e, it's fine, don't worry about size
22:54.42r0bbymy mentor provided initial design feedback, but that's it
22:54.44Landonhm
22:54.48araujomib_33b51e, just follow your interests
22:54.54araujomib_33b51e, what is your interest?
22:54.57Landonhas anyone ever used Operating System Concepts by Silberschatz and Galvin?
22:54.59r0bbyand answered questions occasionally
22:55.14araujoLandon, barely here
22:55.23Landonis it any good?
22:55.32araujostill prefers Tanenbaum
22:55.50Landonnoticed the 5th ed was free on a table in the CS department here
22:55.59mib_33b51ei wanted to work with adium
22:56.05araujomib_33b51e, go for it!
22:56.15JeffMyeah just go in, you don't need SoC for that
22:56.18mib_33b51ei am kind of in the beginners stage where I don't know enough to know what I want to do.
22:56.23mib_33b51eI know the programs that I use
22:56.55araujomib_33b51e, don't worry, take your time and follow your interests
22:57.06araujothat helps to start with something
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23:03.18r0bbymib_33b51e: start by reviewing the codebase
23:03.33r0bbyif you're learning C -- k&r is the standard
23:03.43r0bbydefacto reference
23:03.47mib_33b51ewhat is k&r
23:03.54r0bbyI can't spell their names
23:04.06JeffMthe guys that learned C
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23:04.09JeffMinventd C
23:04.16mib_33b51eI was going to start by learning Objective C and the Cocoa framework
23:04.18r0bbyhttp://www.amazon.com/Programming-Language-Prentice-Hall-Software/dp/0131103628
23:04.25r0bbyoh
23:04.26r0bbyright
23:04.35r0bbyAdium using Obj  C
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