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| 00:37.12 | kblin | le sigh |
| 00:37.31 | kblin | coming up with a cool codename is always the hardest part when doing a release |
| 00:37.43 | kblin | I need to start thinking about those beforehand |
| 00:39.06 | lh | kblin: i have some ideas, what is your usual naming schema? |
| 00:39.59 | kblin | I don't think we have some so far. the 0.1.0 release was called "Baby Wombat", the next one "Toddler", due to being very new and not very useful yet |
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| 00:40.17 | lh | why not call it koala/ |
| 00:40.31 | kblin | the software is called WOMBAT... |
| 00:40.57 | kblin | the Worldforge Open Media Browser - Artist Tool |
| 00:41.18 | lh | ah. so there is a schema. |
| 00:41.38 | summatusmentis | and this is 0.3.0? |
| 00:41.39 | lh | call it marsupial |
| 00:41.57 | kblin | anyway, the 0.3.0 release was called "Alchemist", as I switched to a database backend called SQLAlchemy |
| 00:42.12 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: What's new in this? |
| 00:42.24 | kblin | and for 0.4.0 I added user accounts... but "Accountant" seems wrong |
| 00:42.59 | kblin | though the UI changed alot as well, so Funky Accountant might do |
| 00:44.56 | lh | bean counter? |
| 00:44.58 | lh | ducks |
| 00:46.14 | kblin | dunno |
| 00:47.40 | kblin | the new UI is much darker than the old one (UI people seem to think that's fashionable) |
| 00:47.53 | kblin | so "ninja wombat" is tempting |
| 00:48.48 | dberkholz | kblin: what do you think of sqlalchemy? |
| 00:48.57 | dberkholz | the turbogears guys were raving about how awesome it was |
| 00:49.02 | dberkholz | curious to hear another opinion |
| 00:49.11 | lh | dberkholz: reimbursing you for your taxi fare is going to be a complete PITA. can i just buy you beers sometime please? |
| 00:49.31 | MatthewWilkes | lh: Almost suggested that one myself but thought the indirection was a bit obtuse |
| 00:49.44 | dberkholz | lh: sure. i managed to exactly spend the $100 i had including the fare, so i'm not negative |
| 00:49.47 | lh | MatthewWilkes: you mean bean counter? |
| 00:49.54 | MatthewWilkes | yep |
| 00:49.57 | lh | dberkholz: awesome. yay for efficiency. |
| 00:50.08 | dberkholz | lh: yay for beer with lh, rather. =) |
| 00:50.36 | lh | that is also nice |
| 00:50.45 | dberkholz | guess that means i'll have to get to another conference at some point |
| 00:50.51 | lh | indeed! |
| 00:50.59 | kblin | dberkholz: I don't use much of it so far, but the object relation manager sounds nice |
| 00:51.08 | kblin | er s/sounds/is/ |
| 00:51.49 | kblin | anyway, I need to get duct tape and bubble wrap before we have food, so I need to be off |
| 00:52.03 | summatusmentis | don't say food! :( |
| 00:52.04 | kblin | I'll just relay the release until I come up with a good codename ;) |
| 00:52.06 | dberkholz | i've made some nice progress on converting the main gentoo repo to git, thanks to the git guys i ran into at the conf |
| 00:52.15 | summatusmentis | I feel like I'm always hungry :) |
| 00:53.36 | MatthewWilkes | Ah, it seems I paid my tuition fees yesterday |
| 00:53.50 | MatthewWilkes | but sometime earlier that day I got paid by work so they didn't bounce |
| 00:54.28 | kblin | hehe |
| 00:54.32 | kblin | tada folks |
| 00:55.36 | MatthewWilkes | Yay UK higher education policy - 3 months of fees paid: 28/10/2008 WWW.BRISTOL.AC.UK £-1228.00 |
| 00:56.17 | Landon | :( |
| 00:56.24 | Landon | nap->homework time |
| 00:58.00 | MatthewWilkes | In common with TG and Pylons our sunday hack topic was pyhon2.6 compatibility. We did some very basic performance tests today and it's amazing. Memory usage down by 25mb, mean response time down by a factor of 4. Statup time halved |
| 00:58.03 | MatthewWilkes | Python2.6 ROCKS |
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| 01:00.12 | ThomasWaldmann | MatthewWilkes: compare to 2.5? |
| 01:00.17 | ThomasWaldmann | +d |
| 01:03.05 | MatthewWilkes | 2.4 |
| 01:03.12 | MatthewWilkes | We skipped over 2.5 as it was taking so long to port |
| 01:03.56 | MatthewWilkes | Plone runs on Zope which has its fair share of C extensions |
| 01:06.48 | ThomasWaldmann | i guess the allocator change was already in 2.5 |
| 01:07.20 | MatthewWilkes | yeah, been wanting this for so long |
| 01:07.53 | ThomasWaldmann | but the response time/startup time speedup is amazing |
| 01:08.09 | ThomasWaldmann | did you do anything else than make it work? |
| 01:08.43 | MatthewWilkes | no, that's compared to 2.4 interpretting the same codebase |
| 01:08.52 | MatthewWilkes | compared to the latest stable releases it's eve faster |
| 01:10.53 | ThomasWaldmann | will do some benchmarks later just to look whether moin behaves different/faster also |
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| 01:23.11 | lh | awww |
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| 03:00.02 | [mharrison] | Hey, what a great idea! If only someone else had thought of putting light-weight office apps on a web app before them... http://www.macworld.com/article/136434/officeweb.html |
| 03:01.23 | Landon | praise teh mac |
| 03:03.20 | [mharrison] | No, praise teh Google docs |
| 03:03.32 | summatusmentis | meh... Google Docs is ok |
| 03:04.33 | [mharrison] | teh win |
| 03:05.10 | Landon | praise teh linux |
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| 03:21.57 | summatusmentis | I should be doing homework :( |
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| 03:32.38 | Landon | I am doing honmework |
| 03:34.20 | summatusmentis | I don't wanna :( |
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| 03:46.35 | [mharrison] | Landon, do mine, do mine! |
| 03:46.52 | [mharrison] | I got an Engineer Computation pad. It's great for my calc and algorithms |
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| 03:55.18 | Landon | [mharrison]: engineering paper FOR THE WIN |
| 03:55.22 | Landon | I use it for everything |
| 03:55.35 | Landon | I just wish I had discovered it earlier |
| 03:55.42 | Landon | first semester instead of second |
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| 03:58.15 | Landon | cept |
| 03:58.20 | [mharrison] | Yeah...I started using a graph paper pad, which rocked, but the top sheet tore off every time I put it in my bag. So I got a $0.49 folder, stuck the cardboard backing in the pocket, and INSTANT SOLUTION. And then...I saw the even smaller letters of the engineering pad! |
| 03:58.21 | Landon | I moved to latex for diff eq notes |
| 03:58.34 | Landon | haha |
| 03:58.37 | Landon | 50 lines rocks, amirite |
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| 03:58.45 | Landon | you get so much done |
| 03:58.57 | Landon | (yet even then I can barely get a problem to a page on some assignments :( ) |
| 03:59.44 | [mharrison] | word |
| 03:59.57 | [mharrison] | One of my algorithms problems takes up 3/4 of a page |
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| 14:02.11 | sid0_ | grrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 14:02.24 | sid0_ | found a bug in code he submitted for an assignment a month ago :( |
| 14:02.34 | sid0_ | and 4.5 hours to modify and fix it! |
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| 14:06.19 | summatusmentis | you get a month to turn in your assignments? |
| 14:09.02 | sid0_ | summatusmentis: heh, no, this is for another assignment in which we're supposed to use code from the earlier assignment |
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| 14:09.27 | sid0_ | but I found the bug at least :) |
| 14:09.45 | sid0_ | hooray for debuggers :) |
| 14:10.54 | sid0_ | now to test it with 30000 random inputs |
| 14:11.11 | sid0_ | woohoo, might have worked |
| 14:11.30 | sid0_ | yep |
| 14:11.32 | sid0_ | now for 300000 |
| 14:12.48 | sid0_ | yep, worked :D |
| 14:17.56 | sid0_ | heh, still worked for 3 million, I'm a bit more confident with my coding skills now :) |
| 14:18.19 | sid0_ | ponders kicking it up to 30 million :D |
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| 15:19.03 | Ivanovic | hiho |
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| 15:21.18 | socinfo | "mentorsummitwiki" is http://gsoc-mentors-2008.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Main_Page - the password details can be found on the mentor's mailing list |
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| 15:36.35 | kblin | hm, crud |
| 15:36.59 | kblin | there's incidentials on my hotel bill I certainly didn't get.. |
| 15:37.07 | kblin | sighs |
| 15:41.37 | ``Erik | hm, I see nothing listed on my cc, hopefully it stays that way O.o |
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| 16:28.55 | summatusmentis | Guys, esr has an andy. I want one! :-P |
| 16:29.15 | Ivanovic | WHAT?!? |
| 16:29.30 | Ivanovic | why does eric have one and why has he not told me about this?!? |
| 16:29.30 | summatusmentis | yeah, I know right? |
| 16:29.39 | summatusmentis | you know eric raymond? |
| 16:29.45 | Ivanovic | sure, he works on wesnoth, too |
| 16:30.08 | summatusmentis | wow... |
| 16:30.09 | summatusmentis | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=578 |
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| 16:30.36 | Ivanovic | he made us some nice tools and votes for adding more python stuff wherever he can... |
| 16:32.24 | summatusmentis | that's really cool. I always forget that the well-known OSS people are actually people, and probably interact with others :) |
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| 16:42.01 | Landon | holy netsplit batman |
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| 16:45.21 | Landon | I'm too dependent on freenode :) |
| 16:45.33 | scorche | irssi handles netsplits nicely |
| 16:45.40 | Landon | yup |
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