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| 00:47.58 | florian | the gpe revicion counter now has the same numer as the highest mountain on earth is high in meters :-) |
| 00:48.07 | florian | eh revision |
| 01:02.22 | Philippe_ | florian: and where can we see that number |
| 01:02.24 | Philippe_ | ? |
| 01:04.12 | florian | Philippe_: "svn up" :-) |
| 01:09.52 | florian | time to get some sleep |
| 01:09.55 | florian | good night |
| 01:10.10 | Philippe_ | florian: Well that means I will have to catch up even more on the amount of submits I have to do to catch up on you :-) |
| 01:10.14 | Philippe_ | goodnight florian |
| 01:10.40 | florian | heh |
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| 08:50.17 | jcole | can the filesystem to memory ratio be resized on the fly in linux? |
| 08:52.22 | jcole | you know, like in winCE/pocketpc |
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| 10:12.22 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:13.59 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
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| 10:30.21 | JAV | hello |
| 10:32.02 | florian_kc | hi JAV |
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| 11:03.35 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 11:04.03 | pH5 | hey florian_kc |
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| 13:20.34 | mrspock1980 | Hello! |
| 13:21.30 | mrspock1980 | I have a foldable keyboard which is running with kbdd - that worked fine. |
| 13:21.45 | florian_kc | hi mrspock1980 |
| 13:22.45 | mrspock1980 | But as it is a german keyboard, I would like to have a german layout... But I did not find any loadkeys de as on big linux pcs |
| 13:23.42 | florian_kc | hmm... i don't have an external keyboard, but Nils who wrote kbdd is German so he should know :-) |
| 13:24.19 | florian_kc | it would be worth to send a mail to the gpe mailinglist (the _new_ one please: gpe-list@linuxtogo.org) |
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| 13:36.40 | florian_kc | brb |
| 13:41.19 | prpplague | florian_kc: i feel your pain, that's a primary reason i've never posted any of my projects to handhelds.org |
| 13:41.42 | prpplague | florian_kc: seems to be another stink similiar to the OE battle |
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| 13:59.57 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:03.21 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:03.36 | florian_kc | hi CoreDump|home |
| 14:03.51 | CoreDump|home | hi florian_kc =) |
| 14:03.53 | florian_kc | prpplague: right, the situation seems to be similar... |
| 14:04.40 | florian_kc | prpplague: if i would see any useful reason for this fight, but there i none... or noone said what is the reason behind this. |
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| 14:08.58 | prpplague | btw, has anyone spoken to pb_ lately? |
| 14:09.07 | prpplague | he seems to have disappered from irc |
| 14:11.39 | florian_kc | prpplague: i was here about one week ago... but he seems to be really busy. |
| 14:12.46 | prpplague | florian_kc: yea i knew he'd moved into a more management position |
| 14:13.31 | florian_kc | prpplague: uh, ok that sounds scary :-) |
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| 15:01.40 | florian_kc | hi __law__ |
| 15:01.50 | __law__ | hi florian_kc |
| 15:43.14 | univac | http://chopin.edu.pl/~univac/current3.png |
| 15:43.20 | univac | Up |
| 15:44.26 | florian_kc | looks nice :-) |
| 15:50.05 | univac | :) |
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| 17:11.34 | florian_kc | hi bedboi, hi goxboxlive |
| 17:11.42 | bedboi | hi there florian_kc |
| 17:11.48 | goxboxlive | hi florian |
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| 17:52.17 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 17:58.25 | florian_kc | hi mmp |
| 17:58.50 | mmp | hi florian_kc :) |
| 18:00.17 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 20:06.41 | Philippe_ | hello all |
| 20:08.25 | lamikr | Hi Philippe |
| 20:08.57 | Philippe_ | hey lamikr! Everything going ok? |
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| 20:09.34 | florian_kc | hi Philippe_, hi lamikr |
| 20:09.39 | Philippe_ | lamikr: I have been implementing some of your wishlist items in gpe-mini-browser. Probabely I'll have a new release by the end of the week. |
| 20:10.21 | mmp | Philippe_: shouds great:) (I'm just curious, will it render more sites than it was capable previously?) |
| 20:10.34 | mmp | s/shouds/sounds/ :) |
| 20:10.52 | lamikr | Philippe: Really! That's nice. I mostly sleeping 4 days in last week as I went to laser operation to get rid of classes. Now things are ok and I can stand the light again. |
| 20:12.53 | lamikr | Philippe: Have you been able to do your all changes to gpe code itself or has there been need to update also the underlying libraries? |
| 20:14.19 | Philippe_ | lamikr: all in gpe-mini-browser... |
| 20:14.53 | Philippe_ | mmp: unfortunately no rendering improvements. Only settings management. |
| 20:15.17 | lamikr | Philippe: Well, those usability things are important. Have you been able to do the save dialog? |
| 20:15.41 | mmp | Philippe_: thanks a lot, anyway:) |
| 20:16.13 | Philippe_ | mmp: you're welcome :-) |
| 20:16.48 | Philippe_ | lamikr: not yet... That needs some more research and hooks into gtk-webcore. I hope some stuff will happen on that front soon. |
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| 20:18.17 | mreimer | Philippe_: is there any chance of gtk-webcore getting merged into webkit? |
| 20:18.58 | lamikr | mreimer: What's webkit? |
| 20:19.01 | Philippe_ | mreimer: I don't know. AFAIK somebody has done some GTK work on webkit, but nothing I could use. |
| 20:19.50 | mreimer | lamikr: webkit is the name of the code that Apple is developing, which started life as khtml |
| 20:19.55 | mreimer | IIUC |
| 20:21.29 | Kompo | more specifically, webkit contains webcore, html rendering engine which is a fork of khtml. webkit also contains other code, such as external apis, networking and "cross-platform" porting library |
| 20:24.52 | mreimer | and svg, yummy |
| 20:24.57 | lamikr | Ok, so it is still fork from kde's code? I thought they managed to integrate the code back in the second try. |
| 20:25.22 | mreimer | lamikr: I think they're reasonably close, at least with the rendering engine |
| 20:26.08 | Kompo | no, it's really separate. they're bringing webcore into kde4 apparently |
| 20:27.00 | mreimer | lamikr: don't mind me; listen to Kompo :-) |
| 20:28.59 | lamikr | ok :-) |
| 20:29.01 | Kompo | mreimer: I didn't intend to interrupt or anything.. :) anyway, gtk-webcore is based on old version of webkit |
| 20:29.19 | Kompo | or old version of webcore, without the kit part.. |
| 20:29.34 | mreimer | Kompo: no, thanks for correcting me. I want to know the true status of things, not merely rumor :-) |
| 20:39.45 | lamikr | Philippe: How is Nora? |
| 20:45.20 | florian_kc | brb |
| 20:47.23 | Philippe_ | lamikr: doing fine thank you :-) Going to see her thursday evening... |
| 20:48.40 | lamikr | Philippe: Already on thursday... You seems to be very llll.. |
| 20:52.31 | Philippe_ | lamikr: I have a meeting on Friday morning in Helsinki at 9am, so I go to spend the night at her place in Helsinki so that I do not have to get up at 6am :-) |
| 20:54.29 | lamikr | Philippe: Oh, yeas. Very, very wise :-) |
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| 21:08.09 | florian | re |
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| 21:29.10 | Philippe_ | anybody has any idea how to generate those potfiles again? |
| 21:31.01 | florian | Philippe_: we should have a makefile target for that |
| 21:31.35 | Philippe_ | florian: great! |
| 21:32.27 | florian | hjmm wait, with autotools that should happen out of the box iirc |
| 21:33.53 | Philippe_ | florian: btw we will have to change gpe-dist.am, it still seems to use CVS for the tag target |
| 21:34.41 | florian | Philippe_: yes right, i need to check how to do this with svn |
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| 21:47.34 | tnb | hopefully quick question for someone: I'm trying to do a quick Glade demo app for someone who doesn't have full OE installed. I did a SDK for them with all the libs and such (staging/ cross/etc.). I try to run autogen.sh , the ./configure --host arm-linux. Everything seems to work fine except for library dependencies: about 8 -l<libs> are missing from link stage. What did I do wrong? |
| 21:47.56 | tnb | seems like PACKAGE_LIBS is wrong in configure |
| 21:48.22 | florian | Philippe_: maybe remove that file and check what happens then :-) |
| 21:48.28 | florian | lamikr: wb |
| 21:49.37 | florian | tnb: hi, sounds like something is wrong with the pc files in the sdk maybe. |
| 21:49.57 | florian | tnb: built from oe recently? |
| 21:50.21 | tnb | florian: hmm, it's a standard build from OE (fam084 release) |
| 21:51.38 | florian | tnb: this tree was split from upstream quite a while ago... maybe they are missing some fix. |
| 21:51.42 | tnb | florian: I did set PKG_CONFIG_PATH in ./configure to <tmp>/staging/arm-linux/share/pkgconfig |
| 21:52.21 | tnb | florian: could be, I suppose. I'll try the current OE dev branch and see what happens |
| 21:52.28 | Philippe_ | florian: found it. $ make update-po |
| 21:52.31 | florian | tnb: ah i see, you didn't build a standalone sdk, right? |
| 21:53.08 | florian | tnb: you could use one of the prebuilt toolchains if you don't rely on latest stuff |
| 21:53.50 | tnb | florian: ?? I did set my tmpdir in build/conf/local.conf to <my-sdk-dir> |
| 21:55.05 | tnb | florian: does one use a different approach to building a standalone SDK other than TMPDIR=<sdk-dir>? |
| 21:55.30 | florian | tnb: ah ok, there is a special target "meta-sdk" for a /usr/local/arm prefixed toolchain as well. |
| 21:56.02 | tnb | florian: ah, didn't know about meta-sdk. Nice. |
| 21:56.56 | florian | tnb: that gives you a tar archive that can be unpacked to / with the toolchain in /usr/local/arm/oe/arm-linux |
| 21:57.04 | florian | Philippe_: good |
| 21:58.00 | florian | tnb: for familiar 0.8.4 you should be able to live with this one: http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/sdk/oe-sdk-20060304232054.tar.bz2 |
| 21:58.27 | tnb | florian: thanks |
| 21:58.38 | tnb | I'll give it a try to see if that alleviates this problem |
| 22:00.19 | florian | tnb: if not tell me... i built that one. |
| 22:00.59 | tnb | florian: had similar problem with oe.dev TMPDIR-based SDK, just a different set of missing libs |
| 22:02.11 | tnb | florian: need to run off for a short while. I'll test with your SDK and let you know. Thanks again. |
| 22:02.31 | florian | tnb: ok, yw |
| 22:03.49 | Philippe_ | There. Last changes checked in. Just need to check the Hildon stuff before releasing. |
| 22:05.30 | lamikr | Philippe: So the new gpe would be ready in repo? Are you planning to put some tag for it? |
| 22:07.31 | Philippe_ | lamikr: only gpe-mini-browser... |
| 22:07.49 | Philippe_ | I'll tag it when I verified the Hildon-build. |
| 22:10.03 | lamikr | Ok, is there something special I should know if I try to update familiar's bb script to build it? I have worked for updating dbus to 1.0 level and api change in that + other small issues that has forced me anyway to update about 20 bb files anyway :-) |
| 22:12.50 | Philippe_ | lamikr: nope. Just using the svn (maybe still called cvs) version to build it should do. |
| 22:14.23 | lamikr | ok. Can it automatically configure itself not to use hildon in bitbake env? |
| 22:16.59 | florian | lamikr: it sgould default to non-hildon, iirc it uses the same switch like the other hildonized apps (--enable-hildon) to turn support for it on. |
| 22:27.15 | Philippe_ | lamikr: indeed. hildon is optional. |
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| 22:50.57 | lamikr | ok, good to know. |
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