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| 00:45.29 | pb_ | hey plague |
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| 01:15.03 | Cwiiis | mAl3X: Hold the stylus down for over 5 seconds on the log-in screen and it'll go to recalibration - or if you have an iPaq, like rdwtux said, the record button |
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| 02:56.15 | mAl3X | Cwiiis: thanks. every time it did that, it just went crazy |
| 02:56.29 | mAl3X | i just ended up reflashing :-P |
| 02:56.54 | mAl3X | does anybody know how to fix this? "Cannot find package gpe-session-scripts." |
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| 03:00.42 | mAl3X | ?! |
| 03:00.51 | mAl3X | root@h3600:/var/tmp# ipkg --nodeps install gpe-session-scripts_0.62-r14_c7x0.ipk |
| 03:00.57 | mAl3X | Cannot find package gpe-session-scripts. |
| 03:00.57 | mAl3X | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 03:01.01 | mAl3X | :( |
| 03:01.31 | mAl3X | i've accidentally removed that package, and now it seems to be crucial to normal functioning of the system :( |
| 03:02.32 | GregorR | You could try: |
| 03:02.43 | GregorR | mkdir ext ; cd ext ; ar xv ../gpe-session-scripts_0.62-r14_c7x0.ipk |
| 03:02.49 | GregorR | Then extract data.tar.gz to the root of the FS |
| 03:04.49 | mAl3X | ooh |
| 03:04.50 | mAl3X | thanks |
| 03:04.55 | mAl3X | hopefully that'll work ;) |
| 03:05.10 | GregorR | It'll get the files in, but whether it'll fix the error or not is unknown :-P |
| 03:05.18 | mAl3X | :-D |
| 03:06.11 | mAl3X | w00t! i'm back in! :) |
| 03:06.13 | mAl3X | thanks a bunch |
| 03:08.23 | mAl3X | now that i've removed like seven kernel modules (drivers for hardware that my 3600 doesn't have...) i have enough space for an ipkg upgrade... |
| 03:29.06 | GregorR | Ahhh, 3600 space problem |
| 03:29.43 | GregorR | Now why won't my palmtop give me a console :-P |
| 03:31.05 | GregorR | Oh, hey, I got it. |
| 03:31.20 | GregorR | GPE ought to be fixed to try to use /dev/ttySA0 rather than ttyS0... |
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| 07:03.47 | GregorR | Anybody willing to be a playtester for PlinCiv 2? It's my port of FreeCiv to small-screened devices. |
| 07:45.40 | Cwiiis | GregorR: Sure thing - do you have a bb I can build? |
| 07:46.25 | Cwiiis | koen: glibc still fails to build for me with undefined references all over the place - any ideas? |
| 07:48.23 | Cwiiis | koen: I'm thinking it's soft-float related |
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| 08:16.01 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:19.48 | Cwiiis | Morning koen - I'll go through the gcc 3.4.3 patches later and see which still need to be applied to -csl-arm... I think the nolibfloat/softfloat patches need updating for it possibly |
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| 08:40.52 | florian_hrz | good morning |
| 08:41.52 | koen | moin florian_hrz |
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| 08:46.45 | koen | hey mallum |
| 08:49.33 | florian_hrz | Hmm... pb_ checked in quite some stuff last night, Down Under must be boring ;-) |
| 08:50.15 | Cwiiis | Morning mallum |
| 08:50.16 | koen | or have a lot of trains :) |
| 08:51.38 | florian_hrz | *gg* |
| 08:51.48 | florian_hrz | hi Cwiiis, hi mallum |
| 08:52.00 | Cwiiis | hey florian_hrz |
| 08:53.38 | florian_hrz | Did |
| 08:53.41 | florian_hrz | eeks |
| 08:54.08 | florian_hrz | Did ysomeone here try to build libgpewidget with --enable-gtk-doc? |
| 08:56.31 | florian_hrz | Three of my machines destroy the complete doc and one works properly. |
| 08:58.40 | mallum | hey Cwiiis , florian_hrz , koen |
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| 09:07.59 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 09:08.07 | bedboi | hi there :) |
| 09:08.32 | florian_hrz | hi bedboi |
| 09:12.05 | bedboi | koen: what's the status of h54xx 2.6.x kernel ? |
| 09:12.39 | bedboi | still not usable, isn't it? |
| 09:12.58 | koen | it locks up after 30 secs |
| 09:13.17 | bedboi | ops |
| 09:13.35 | bedboi | i'm really curious about how 2.6 performs wrt 2.4 |
| 09:13.39 | bedboi | on handhelds devices |
| 09:13.47 | bedboi | in theory it should be really better |
| 09:13.59 | koen | no |
| 09:14.11 | koen | the pxa250 optimizations aren't in 2.6 |
| 09:14.22 | koen | so h39xx and h54xx will be slower |
| 09:14.25 | bedboi | ah |
| 09:14.47 | koen | I asked pb the same question a while ago |
| 09:14.50 | bedboi | ok |
| 09:15.26 | bedboi | i realised that real world is _really_ different respect to theory world |
| 09:15.51 | bedboi | you have something that in theory works but it doesn't in the real word |
| 09:16.09 | bedboi | working with network protocols is really a pain in the ass |
| 09:16.31 | bedboi | you study things and try it with ns2 (network simulator) |
| 09:16.38 | bedboi | s/it/them |
| 09:16.49 | bedboi | then you implement in real word stacks and they doesn't work at all |
| 09:16.55 | bedboi | :) |
| 09:17.08 | bedboi | really frustrating |
| 09:17.56 | bedboi | the funny things is that ppl do a lot of publications with experimental results found with ns2 that will never work in the real world |
| 09:18.05 | bedboi | s/do/does |
| 09:18.07 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 09:18.46 | florian_hrz | thats not that uncommon if you work with compley systems - and networks are much more complex than one would expect. |
| 09:19.02 | bedboi | yes |
| 09:19.07 | bedboi | really complex |
| 09:19.10 | koen | try a simple resistor a 1GHz |
| 09:19.17 | bedboi | ehehhe |
| 09:19.28 | bedboi | non linear effects |
| 09:19.31 | bedboi | cool |
| 09:19.37 | bedboi | i like stimulating non linearities |
| 09:19.42 | koen | parasitive effects too |
| 09:19.46 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:19.52 | florian_hrz | i remember what happened when they worked with IP over ATM here at university ;-) |
| 09:19.53 | bedboi | obvious |
| 09:20.07 | bedboi | koen: capacities are everewhere :) |
| 09:20.24 | bedboi | florian_hrz: IP is a rather simple level |
| 09:21.01 | florian_hrz | bedboi: yeah... but it enough to cause nasty effects. |
| 09:21.05 | bedboi | yep :) |
| 09:21.37 | bedboi | hey it seems that x11 doesn't compile in oe |
| 09:21.50 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.50 | bedboi | | Host.c:53: error: `FamilyServerInterpreted' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 09:21.51 | bedboi | | Host.c:53: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 09:21.51 | bedboi | | Host.c:53: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 09:22.26 | koen | are you including prefferred-gpe-versions.inc? |
| 09:23.04 | florian_hrz | bedboi: Under high load the ATM system dropped cells... only a few bytes in size, but that resulted in broken IP packages... this resulted in retries... which caused higher traffic... which caused ATM to drop more cells... |
| 09:23.51 | koen | tokenring is better anyway |
| 09:24.21 | koen | too bad ibm was too late with hsTR |
| 09:24.47 | bedboi | koen: i don't know what are you talking about |
| 09:24.59 | bedboi | what's preferred-gpe-versions? |
| 09:25.03 | bedboi | where i can find it? |
| 09:25.10 | florian_hrz | yeah... but it was too expensive... in this world you can only sell if it is cheap. |
| 09:25.10 | koen | conf/distro |
| 09:25.40 | koen | florian_hrz: and 100Mbit ethernet was already there for some years |
| 09:26.34 | florian_hrz | koen: right... |
| 09:26.56 | bedboi | koen: where do i have to include preferred-gpe-vers ? |
| 09:27.39 | koen | bedboi: familiar-$version will do that for you |
| 09:27.49 | bedboi | ok |
| 09:28.17 | bedboi | as i'm using 0.9.0 it should do that |
| 09:28.19 | bedboi | already |
| 09:28.25 | koen | yes |
| 09:29.00 | bedboi | hmm |
| 09:30.13 | koen | make sure you don't have newer versions of X lying around |
| 09:30.54 | bedboi | koen: hmm, what you mean? it downloaded the cvs |
| 09:31.08 | bedboi | make[1]: Leaving directory `/dvdrip/stuff/build/tmp/work/x11-6.2.1cvs20050419-r4/X11/src' |
| 09:31.25 | koen | that's the wrong one |
| 09:31.43 | bedboi | ok |
| 09:32.34 | koen | you have a) hacks in local.conf b) are using distro="familiar" |
| 09:32.52 | koen | since preferred-gpe-versions.inc does PREFERRED_VERSION_diet-x11 ?= "6.2.1" |
| 09:36.13 | bedboi | i'm using DISTRO = "familiar-0.9.0" |
| 09:36.43 | koen | you do't have any stuff in local.conf? |
| 09:37.16 | koen | because it only sets 6.2.1 if it isn't set before |
| 09:44.23 | bedboi | about diet-x11? |
| 09:44.26 | bedboi | let me see |
| 09:44.30 | bedboi | no |
| 09:45.08 | bedboi | i don't have any PREFERRED_VERSION... |
| 09:45.18 | bedboi | btw i didn't hacked local.conf |
| 09:45.22 | bedboi | it's quite the default |
| 09:45.38 | bedboi | with DISTRO = "familiar-0.9.0" |
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| 09:49.54 | koen | It must be getting the cvs version from somewhere |
| 10:00.09 | koen | ah, my h5550 works again |
| 10:01.33 | koen | modprobing h5400_asic did the trick |
| 10:19.39 | koen | florian_hrz: pb updated bluez-pin in cvs, but it is't in oe, because gpe-bluetooth also has a bluez-pin |
| 10:19.45 | koen | how does that work? |
| 10:20.00 | florian_hrz | ehh... mmm wait |
| 10:21.54 | florian_hrz | no idea... sure that gpe-bluetooth provides bluez-pin itself? |
| 10:22.09 | koen | check the .bb |
| 10:23.50 | florian_hrz | hmm... i wonder what is in that directory. |
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| 10:42.24 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 10:43.17 | bedboi | koen: btw it's getting cvs version of 6.2.1 |
| 10:43.45 | koen | sounds like something's going wrong |
| 10:43.46 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 10:43.56 | florian_hrz | hey pb_ |
| 10:43.57 | koen | bedboi: can you remove the cache? |
| 10:44.07 | pb_ | florian_hrz: hello! |
| 10:44.23 | koen | pb_: 12:19 < koen> florian_hrz: pb updated bluez-pin in cvs, but it is't in oe, because gpe-bluetooth also has a bluez-pin |
| 10:44.36 | koen | 12:19 < koen> how does that work? |
| 10:44.37 | bedboi | tmp/cache ? |
| 10:44.42 | koen | bedboi: yes |
| 10:44.46 | bedboi | i'm not using the cache |
| 10:44.53 | bedboi | 'cause i don't have enough ram |
| 10:44.53 | pb_ | koen: pardon? |
| 10:45.32 | koen | pb_: I wanted to update bluez-pin in oe, but I can't find it and gpe-bluetooth has a files_pn+=bluez-pin |
| 10:48.00 | pb_ | oh, right. yes, bluez-pin probably isn't in OE. |
| 10:48.20 | pb_ | I haven't patched gpe-bluetooth yet. |
| 10:49.30 | pb_ | florian_hrz: so, I checked in some bits to add the auto-linguas thing to a couple of the autotoolized programs. |
| 10:49.53 | pb_ | I had a pretty bad time building that stuff, though. It seems that the intltool in Debian is quite broken at the moment. |
| 10:52.09 | florian_hrz | pb_: an nice... |
| 10:52.35 | florian_hrz | pb_: i have some trouble with gtk-doc, it seems to destroy everyting on some of my machines. |
| 10:52.50 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 10:53.16 | pb_ | yeah, I also found out that you can't make dist in libgpewidget unless you configured it --enable-gtk-doc. I'm not sure if this is a good thing. |
| 10:54.02 | florian_hrz | that must be a bug... distcheck worked pretty nice without dosc |
| 10:54.54 | pb_ | if you don't --enable-gtk-doc, none of the docs are built (unsurprisingly), and it then blows up because EXTRA_DIST calls for doc/index.sgml. |
| 10:55.04 | bedboi | koen: i found the issue |
| 10:55.06 | bedboi | NOTE: multiple providers are available (x11, diet-x11); |
| 10:55.06 | bedboi | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_x11 |
| 10:55.06 | bedboi | NOTE: package x11-6.2.1cvs20050419: started |
| 10:56.09 | florian_hrz | pb_: oh that's the bug... index.sgml shouldn'n be in EXTRA_DIST imho. |
| 10:56.17 | pb_ | okay |
| 10:56.24 | pb_ | that's what I suspected too |
| 10:58.38 | koen | bedboi: ok, bk pull |
| 10:58.45 | koen | that got lost somewhere |
| 10:59.23 | bedboi | bk pull in openembedded? |
| 10:59.32 | koen | yes |
| 10:59.34 | bedboi | ok |
| 10:59.56 | bedboi | hmm |
| 10:59.58 | koen | try bk pull bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 11:00.25 | bedboi | ok |
| 11:00.38 | bedboi | Applying 1 revisions to ChangeSet, renumbering, checking checksums |
| 11:00.38 | bedboi | Applying 1 revisions to conf/distro/familiar-0.9.0.conf |
| 11:00.41 | bedboi | :) |
| 11:11.03 | pb_ | florian_hrz: very good |
| 11:19.45 | florian_hrz | brb |
| 11:29.21 | koen | should the "bluetooth devices" screen do more than just display the devices? |
| 11:29.32 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7530.png <- that one |
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| 11:40.18 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 11:40.28 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 11:40.29 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 11:40.35 | koen | hey reenoo * florian_kc |
| 11:40.41 | koen | s/*/&/ |
| 11:41.16 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 11:41.16 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 11:41.16 | reenoo | moin florian_kc |
| 11:41.16 | florian_kc | re |
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| 11:48.12 | koen | hey Cwiiis[uni] |
| 11:48.44 | Cwiiis[uni] | Hey koen |
| 11:48.46 | Cwiiis[uni] | all |
| 11:52.50 | koen | pb_: is there an app/applet in gpe that lists available services (like sdptool browse)? |
| 11:53.51 | pb_ | no, not really |
| 11:54.18 | koen | I see a lot of sdp and rfcomm code in gpe-bluetooth, but I can't seem to access it via the gui |
| 11:54.55 | koen | or is that available via gpe-beam? |
| 11:55.05 | pb_ | the sdp stuff is all automatic. |
| 11:55.27 | pb_ | rfcomm is only accessible if sdp found a service that gpe-bluetooth understands. |
| 11:55.57 | pb_ | or via OBEX from gpe-contacts, filemanager, etc. |
| 11:56.42 | pb_ | afaik, gpe-beam only relates to IrDA, not bluetooth |
| 11:58.33 | florian_kc | right... gpe-beam only does irobex |
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| 12:37.11 | pb_ | florian_kc: I added libgpewidget 0.99 (with autotools) to OE. I had to disable the documentation, though, because I was in a world of pain with gtk-doc. |
| 12:37.49 | pb_ | This GTK_DOC_CHECK macro is pretty bogus. |
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| 12:39.08 | florian_kc | pb_: that's ok... i'll take a look at doc this evening, it might be a good idea to use some default gtkdocize Makefile.am as a base for documentation. |
| 12:39.25 | pb_ | righto |
| 12:41.09 | florian_kc | I started using the cvstrac wiki to collect some basic development information to put on the main website if it is complete. |
| 12:41.20 | pb_ | cool |
| 12:41.36 | pb_ | doh, I just noticed that libgpewidget 0.98 was never released. |
| 12:41.37 | pb_ | oh well |
| 12:41.41 | florian_kc | luc created an entry for general website updates |
| 12:41.47 | florian_kc | heh |
| 12:42.19 | florian_kc | pb_: that many changes are worth two increments ;-) |
| 12:42.25 | pb_ | hehe, true |
| 12:43.51 | florian_kc | http://www.handhelds.org:8080/gpe/wiki?p=GpeDependencyMap |
| 12:44.22 | florian_kc | okay... that's the idea, but it still needs some care :-) |
| 12:47.31 | koen | there |
| 12:49.01 | koen | florian_kc: we need something like http://www.rasterman.com/files/efl.png |
| 12:49.43 | bedboi | koen: cool. |
| 12:50.22 | pb_ | heh, hopefully not something _very_ like that. |
| 12:50.53 | koen | a flat tree won't do |
| 12:51.11 | koen | you want to mention apps/libs only once |
| 12:52.01 | koen | that green/pink/blue thingy raster made is one way of doing it |
| 12:52.10 | florian_kc | koen: ah yes, much better... |
| 12:52.14 | florian_kc | koen: hehe |
| 12:52.23 | koen | gnome-2.0 used to have something similar |
| 12:53.01 | bedboi | breakfast? |
| 12:53.08 | bedboi | it seems you are a bit late |
| 12:53.12 | bedboi | or in a different timezone |
| 12:53.17 | bedboi | ;) |
| 12:53.26 | pb_ | bedboi: heh, for florian this is quite early |
| 12:53.32 | koen | usually florian has breakfast after 15:00, so he's early |
| 12:53.52 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 12:54.20 | bedboi | hmm |
| 12:55.07 | bedboi | [11:09] <florian_hrz> hi bedboi |
| 12:55.22 | bedboi | this proof that you are up till 11:09 (at least) |
| 12:55.46 | koen | I got up a 9 and had breakfast at 12:30 |
| 12:57.16 | bedboi | hmmm |
| 12:57.52 | bedboi | usually i get up at xx:yy:zz and have breakfast at xx:yy:zz+50 |
| 12:57.59 | bedboi | if zz <10 |
| 12:58.10 | bedboi | else propagate carry |
| 13:27.19 | koen | is it just me or are the people in a forum google-challenged? |
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| 13:52.33 | ||cw | everyone seems to be google-challenged |
| 13:54.00 | ||cw | seems that it's easier to open an irc client, connect to freenode, search for a channel but give up and join a random one, ask a question, be told it's off topic and to ask in #other channel, then ask there and be told to google and say "oh right!" |
| 13:54.22 | koen | ah yes |
| 13:54.45 | koen | I was actually getting at webforums, but irc is equally worse |
| 13:54.50 | koen | /worse/bad/ |
| 13:55.27 | ||cw | yeah, cause posting on a web forum is certainly easier than google |
| 13:55.45 | koen | yeah, because you need to register to use google |
| 13:55.51 | koen | o, wait.... |
| 13:55.56 | koen | :) |
| 13:55.57 | ||cw | what I love is when you say "google it" and they say something like "I could, but I wanted a human opinion" |
| 13:56.51 | ||cw | usualy respond with something like "if I wanted people to know my opinions I'd make sure google has them indexed" |
| 13:57.15 | ||cw | or "I get $60/hr for consultation" |
| 14:03.37 | njan | ||cw, on the flip side, what exactly is the point of distro/software/os-specific IRC if people can't ask ontopic questions? :p |
| 14:03.46 | njan | (just playing devil's advocate, you understand..) |
| 14:04.11 | ||cw | IRC is a documentation suplement, not a replacement |
| 14:04.22 | ||cw | if don't find the docs clear, ask |
| 14:04.32 | ||cw | if you are having trouble finding somehting, ask |
| 14:04.58 | ||cw | if you're too lazy to open the page and do a search, don't ask, search first |
| 14:05.38 | njan | fair enough ;) |
| 14:05.49 | ||cw | bout the only time I don't follow that "rule" is when someone mentions something on IRC and I saw "ooo shiney how do I do that?" |
| 14:06.03 | ||cw | s/saw/say/ |
| 14:27.49 | cedric_ | how do u suppose to use gxine? I've install on my poodle (ipkg install gxine) and nothing happen when I tried to start via the icon or comamnd line |
| 14:30.45 | Cwiiis[uni] | cedric_: Nothing happens..? |
| 14:30.52 | Cwiiis[uni] | Nothing at all? |
| 14:30.59 | ||cw | is gxine not in 8.2 yet? |
| 14:31.29 | cedric_ | Cwiiis: root@poodle:~# gxine |
| 14:31.30 | cedric_ | Terminated |
| 14:35.01 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:35.08 | cedric_ | Cwiiis[uni]: I've got a .gxine and .xine directory and that's it... |
| 14:40.07 | Cwiiis[uni] | cedric_: Sounds like out of memory perhaps |
| 14:40.54 | cedric_ | Cwiiis: ok I'll try to add a swap file |
| 14:58.36 | Cwiiis[uni] | cedric_: Make sure everything's installed correctly though, in case |
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| 15:16.35 | cedric_ | Cwiiis: it needs about 4M of RAM... |
| 15:18.48 | koen | bueno tarde tigrux |
| 15:19.37 | tigrux | koen: Buena a tarde a ti también. (Good evening for you too). |
| 15:24.26 | cedric_ | is it normal that gpe+system take around 29M of RAM? |
| 15:24.54 | cedric_ | only 1M spare of memory under my poodle... :-( |
| 15:26.10 | florian_kc | cedric_: linux usually fills memory with cache... so you would need to check what the memory is used for first. |
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| 15:39.11 | koen | florian_kc: have you seen http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/plans.html? |
| 15:39.34 | florian_kc | koen: net yet |
| 15:39.39 | florian_kc | eh not |
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| 17:40.39 | Cwiiis[uni] | Hey all |
| 17:44.30 | mallum | hey Cwiiis |
| 17:44.44 | mallum | Cwiiis[uni]: matchbox-keyboard is in a just about usable state now |
| 17:49.44 | Cwiiis[uni] | mallum: Nice :) In OE? |
| 17:50.34 | mallum | Cwiiis[uni]: well it only loads its config dir from current directory so I doubt it would be easily packaged for oe |
| 17:50.52 | mallum | Cwiiis[uni]: I'll fix that next and then maybe some kind sole will package :) |
| 17:57.20 | Cwiiis[uni] | mallum: Kind soul at your service :) |
| 17:57.21 | Cwiiis[uni] | biab |
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| 18:04.29 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 18:50.58 | Philippe | evening |
| 18:52.23 | Cwiiis[uni] | Evening Phill |
| 18:52.25 | Cwiiis[uni] | er |
| 18:52.28 | Cwiiis[uni] | Philippe: :) |
| 18:53.31 | Philippe | hi Cwiiis |
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| 19:14.18 | dballester | hi to all |
| 19:14.27 | Philippe | hello dballester |
| 19:16.11 | dballester | ot: i'm extingishing a fire :P - quick question: in the latest gpe we can save voice notes with gsm-codec. I tried it, file saved with data, but when i try to play it, i can't ear nothing. know bug? |
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| 19:22.25 | florian | re |
| 19:22.47 | Philippe | hi florian |
| 19:23.08 | dballester | hi florian |
| 19:24.46 | florian | my girlfriend occupied my office with two small children! |
| 19:28.00 | Philippe | florian, good luck! |
| 19:29.12 | Philippe | does anybody know how the application is called that controls the backlight? minilite is only the taskbar thing right? |
| 19:30.30 | florian | Philippe: yes... it depends, there are several ways to influence it. |
| 19:32.16 | Philippe | Well with the latest home-build I did the taskbar application slider doesn't change anything, in the control panel I can control it, but it always jumps back to 0. So I was wondering what I had to rebuild to make it work. |
| 19:35.39 | florian | oh |
| 19:37.39 | florian | Philippe: looks like some recent change causes this, the code in gpe-conf is more or less the same but it is missing some of the latest changes. |
| 19:38.11 | florian | Philippe: On which device does this happen? |
| 19:52.44 | Philippe | florian, ipaq 3850 |
| 19:54.35 | florian | Philippe: that's interesting.. on my 3870 it works nice in familiar 0.8.2. |
| 19:57.43 | ||cw | how can I edit what's in the menu? |
| 19:58.33 | florian | Thats defined by the files in /usr/share/applications |
| 19:59.44 | ||cw | ah, so i can just add .desktop files. shouc I add them there or is there a place in the home dir? |
| 20:00.55 | florian | hmm |
| 20:01.01 | ||cw | hm, actualy, I don't think that's it |
| 20:01.28 | ||cw | for instance, I have vlc in "other" ont eh desktop, but not in the menu |
| 20:01.35 | florian | i'm not sure if matchbox-panel supports it... but it is documented very well. |
| 20:01.56 | florian | oh, thats strange... |
| 20:04.10 | ||cw | ah, this is interesting |
| 20:04.17 | ||cw | /usr/share/matchbox/vfolders/ |
| 20:04.22 | ||cw | i think i see why |
| 20:04.26 | ||cw | sort of |
| 20:05.23 | florian | you mean the menu could be configured to ignore unknown apps? |
| 20:06.00 | ||cw | well, it seems to work like this: you have /usr/share/applications/*.desktop file |
| 20:06.14 | ||cw | those file define various thinkgs,like the Category |
| 20:06.22 | ||cw | then you have /usr/share/matchbox/vfolders/* |
| 20:06.38 | ||cw | which define the Root (the desktop itself) and all the folders |
| 20:06.51 | ||cw | in the folder, you "match" the categories |
| 20:07.18 | ||cw | for instance, Calendar is category PIM, Root matches PIM |
| 20:07.36 | ||cw | so the calendar icon shows on the desktop and at the top of the menu |
| 20:08.01 | ||cw | vls has type Application, which has no Match |
| 20:08.06 | ||cw | vlc^ |
| 20:08.35 | ||cw | minimo has cat application;network |
| 20:08.48 | ||cw | but shows in Other |
| 20:09.03 | ||cw | vlc shows in Other on the desktop but not in the launcher menu |
| 20:12.54 | florian | right |
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| 20:18.14 | reenoo | evening |
| 20:18.25 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 20:19.40 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 20:34.15 | ||cw | yeah, so |
| 20:34.25 | ||cw | how can i get vlc in the launcher :) |
| 20:34.56 | ||cw | oh, and it is NOT encouraging when I have to explain to the FedEX sales rep how FedEx's Direct Method system works |
| 20:36.23 | ||cw | hahah http://pokia.us/ |
| 20:38.52 | florian | heh |
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| 22:08.29 | florian | good night |
| 22:15.05 | reenoo | koen: so far 0.8.2 works flawlessly on my h3870 btw |
| 22:16.50 | Philippe | reenoo, koen were can i get the correct versioning for 0.8.2, to build the stuff on my own? |
| 22:18.09 | reenoo | Philippe: bk pull the right tag and set DISTRO="familiar-0.8.2" |
| 22:18.21 | reenoo | s/pull/clone/ |
| 22:19.32 | Philippe | reeno thanks! I did not manage to remember what it exactly was. |
| 22:29.03 | koen | reenoo: good to hear |
| 22:31.28 | Philippe | I am going to try it once my ADSL line is up decently again. (got capped because my brother was downloading too much) |
| 22:32.05 | reenoo | Cwiiis: fwiw, matchbox still blows up when enabling visual effects |
| 22:32.20 | koen | 0.8.2 doesn't have the new MB |
| 22:33.20 | reenoo | koen: well, the point is that I suggested removing the check box from gpe-conf altogether to avoid this |
| 22:33.57 | koen | that's my idea too |
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| 22:47.16 | Philippe | Any idea what is causing the problem? |
| 22:48.38 | koen | what problem? |
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| 22:49.09 | koen | the visual effects things is a combination of COMPOSITE and mb having bugs |
| 22:50.28 | _philippe | So removing the checkbox is a good choice I think. |
| 22:51.16 | _philippe | Actually anybody heard something from pb at the LCA? |
| 22:51.32 | koen | the beer was kind of ok |
| 22:51.39 | koen | ~seen pb_ |
| 22:51.41 | ibot | pb_ <~pb@203.53.50.91> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 8h 39m 8s ago, saying: 'night all'. |
| 22:52.27 | _philippe | Well that is already a start. |
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| 22:56.02 | _philippe | speaking of the devil :-) hey pb_ |
| 22:56.20 | mallum | reenoo: we dont know if its the X Server or MB blowing up ;) |
| 22:57.18 | mallum | reenoo, koen: please run mb under xorg with composite and see if it happens there |
| 22:58.02 | mallum | until its figured out, it may be best to indeed comment out the checkbox |
| 22:58.26 | mallum | ( as philipe suggests ) |
| 22:58.37 | pb_ | hi _philippe |
| 22:58.48 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 22:59.11 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 22:59.35 | reenoo | mallum: yeah, sorry. it's just that the visible part is matchbox(-panel). can't tell what the actual cause is. |
| 22:59.45 | reenoo | mallum: no xorg here I'm afraid |
| 22:59.49 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 22:59.53 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 23:00.42 | mallum | reenoo: last time I checked it worked ok in xephyr |
| 23:01.07 | mallum | reenoo: and that part of the code hadn't changed ( the bit that turns on/off composite ) |
| 23:01.28 | mallum | reenoo: and mb is likely the only piece of software that uses that composite api cal :/ |
| 23:02.28 | _philippe | pb_, I took a look at my libgpewidget patch and changed it accordingly to your suggestions. My machine is still rebuilding gpe to see if it is okay. |
| 23:03.14 | pb_ | _philippe: actually, I already fixed the libgpewidget thing. But if you would like to patch the other stuff, that would be good. |
| 23:04.16 | _philippe | pb_, ok. No problem. I will check it and send you a patch. (I haven't heard anything back yet about the cvs access) |
| 23:10.50 | philippe | Well I am off to sleep. Goodnight all |
| 23:18.35 | reenoo | hmm. ipaq-sleep is trying to write to /var/run while running as a normal user |
| 23:23.05 | koen | hrm |
| 23:23.20 | koen | the tremor change in OE breaks vlc by the looks of it |
| 23:23.33 | koen | | vorbis.c:484: error: too few arguments to function `vorbis_synthesis' |
| 23:24.01 | koen | a good moment to go to sleep |
| 23:24.03 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:24.19 | reenoo | 'night koen |
| 23:24.27 | reenoo | nm |
| 23:26.56 | reenoo | good call actually |
| 23:27.07 | reenoo | 'night all |
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