| 00:12.36 | pb_ | mallum: is there any eta for a matchbox package that fixes #1126? |
| 00:25.22 | mallum | pb_: the odd gtk ipkg dep ? |
| 00:25.47 | pb_ | yeah |
| 00:27.07 | mallum | pb_: have been away all week, will knock out a new package tommorow / monday |
| 00:27.44 | pb_ | righto, cool. thanks. |
| 00:28.11 | mallum | pb_: in the meantime you should be able to work round it by depending on the various matchbox-* packages rather than the matchbox 'virtual' one |
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| 00:51.21 | sabrewulf | who do i send patches to? |
| 00:51.35 | pb_ | For what? |
| 00:51.40 | sabrewulf | gpe-filemanager |
| 00:51.53 | pb_ | send them to me, or to the gpe mailing list. or file them in bugzilla. |
| 00:53.35 | pb_ | thanks |
| 00:53.59 | sabrewulf | does it look useful? |
| 00:55.53 | flypiper | pb_: your burning the late oil tonight :) |
| 00:56.17 | pb_ | sabrewulf: yup, looks good. I'll check it in soon. |
| 00:57.06 | pb_ | flypiper: heh. yeah, I was just about to pack it up for the day. |
| 00:57.31 | flypiper | pb_: have a good nite :) |
| 00:57.43 | pb_ | flypiper: :-) |
| 00:58.45 | sabrewulf | pb: cool |
| 00:58.48 | sabrewulf | er |
| 01:05.50 | sabrewulf | :) |
| 01:05.57 | sabrewulf | gpe-filemanager needs a LOT of work ;) |
| 01:07.00 | moray | sabrewulf: yes. reading the code suggests there are rather a lot of memory leaks, for one thing. |
| 01:07.21 | sabrewulf | yep |
| 01:07.26 | sabrewulf | all those g_strdup's |
| 01:10.19 | florian | yes, that's very true... looks like dc is somewhat busy at the moment :-/ |
| 01:11.07 | florian | I'll hack some stuff after some sleep... today is hacking day :-)) |
| 01:11.52 | moray | florian: ah right :) |
| 01:21.21 | florian | night all |
| 01:21.39 | flypiper | florian: g'night |
| 01:22.04 | sabrewulf | where is the data for gpe-calender stored? |
| 01:29.02 | florian | sabrewulf: ~/.gpe/calenar imho |
| 01:29.09 | sabrewulf | ahh |
| 01:29.25 | florian | so, but now! |
| 01:29.28 | florian | night... |
| 01:29.32 | sabrewulf | night |
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| 02:30.04 | sabrewulf | damn debian |
| 02:30.09 | sabrewulf | screwing up my .pc files |
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| 11:42.12 | heavytank | there is java support for gpe for ipaq 3970 |
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| 12:17.05 | florian | hi |
| 12:17.13 | pb_ | florian: good afternoon |
| 12:17.43 | florian | pb_: hello! |
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| 12:22.37 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 12:22.37 | jsmanrique | good morning |
| 12:22.55 | florian | hi jsmanrique |
| 12:23.45 | jsmanrique | I've written the small gpe vs opie resume for my friend |
| 12:24.20 | jsmanrique | I recommend him to contact pb, mallum and jg |
| 12:25.15 | florian | jsmanrique: What i forgot to mention: GPE's libraries are LGPL while QT is GPL or commercial... this may be an issue if someone wants to add commercial stuff. |
| 12:26.01 | jsmanrique | yes |
| 12:26.39 | jsmanrique | but he could link dinamically |
| 12:26.51 | mallum | jsmanrique: no, it dont work like that |
| 12:27.14 | jsmanrique | mallum: HI!... happy 2004 |
| 12:27.21 | pb_ | florian: :-/ |
| 12:27.37 | mallum | jsmanrique: happy new year to you too |
| 12:28.05 | jsmanrique | have someone tried nomachine.org x client? |
| 12:28.53 | jsmanrique | I need more screen on this devices |
| 12:29.02 | jsmanrique | a pdf reader |
| 12:29.22 | jsmanrique | gaim 0ยท74 |
| 12:30.00 | jsmanrique | or gpe-gaim |
| 12:30.00 | mallum | jsmanrique: nomachine worked pretty good for me |
| 12:30.00 | jsmanrique | mallum: on gpe? |
| 12:30.48 | jsmanrique | I have to install Debian on my iBook ASAP |
| 12:31.06 | mallum | jsmanrique: no via laptop and desktop. no reason why it wouldn't work on ipaq though |
| 12:31.18 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 12:33.08 | jsmanrique | I would like a student-notes app that could take a pdf and write manually on it |
| 12:33.48 | mallum | jsmanrique: well fire up emacs and write one :-) |
| 12:34.08 | jsmanrique | mallum: time to learn C |
| 12:34.47 | jsmanrique | any similar app to read code from? |
| 12:38.16 | jsmanrique | any 640x480 monochrome ARM device? |
| 12:38.53 | jsmanrique | this screen is too small for notebook substitution |
| 12:40.16 | elephantum | hi mallum, hi pb_, hi florian |
| 12:40.28 | elephantum | hi all =) |
| 12:40.41 | florian | elephantum: hi |
| 12:40.43 | pb_ | hi elephantum |
| 12:41.11 | jsmanrique | I have to go |
| 12:41.24 | jsmanrique | I'll read about svg |
| 12:41.52 | elephantum | ppl, I`ve troubles with familiar 0.7.2. I cant connect it to my PC using USB |
| 12:42.12 | elephantum | I mean ipaq running 0.7.2 |
| 12:42.54 | elephantum | troubles began when ipaq began to identify itself differently |
| 12:43.16 | elephantum | just after installing 0.7.2 |
| 12:48.06 | florian | strange... oh... you need to connect to a windows machine? |
| 12:48.24 | elephantum | florian: nope. to linux |
| 12:49.10 | florian | elephantum: I did this last week... worked fine. I used latest unstable kernel. |
| 12:49.23 | florian | with an 3870 |
| 12:49.33 | elephantum | florian: I`ll try to upgrade it now. |
| 12:50.09 | elephantum | hmm... where is unstable depository located? |
| 12:51.50 | pb_ | ibot, unstable? |
| 12:51.51 | | unstable is, like, at http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/ |
| 12:51.57 | pb_ | no, not that one |
| 12:52.07 | pb_ | http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/ |
| 12:52.26 | pb_ | damn openzaurus |
| 12:54.38 | florian | hehe |
| 12:56.03 | elephantum | pb_: thanks. I`ll install 0.7.1 now and try to upgrade to latest unstable |
| 12:57.28 | elephantum | btw. is it possible to install gpe on zaurus? |
| 12:57.48 | mallum | elephantum: kind of |
| 12:58.33 | elephantum | great. cause I want to buy a new handheld. |
| 12:59.40 | mallum | elephantum: gpe is kind of bound to familiar so dont expect it to a) work smoothly b) install without iq test on a Z |
| 13:00.18 | elephantum | mallum: ooh... that`s how is it |
| 13:00.40 | elephantum | mallum: btw, why there is no familiar for zaurus? |
| 13:01.20 | mallum | elephantum: probably becuause afaik nobody has attempted to add support for Z's |
| 13:01.55 | elephantum | oh, I see |
| 13:02.20 | mallum | elephantum: and nobody has successfully added GPE to openzuarus |
| 13:03.02 | elephantum | mallum: that`s bad =( |
| 13:03.30 | mallum | elephantum: openzuarus is superced |
| 13:03.59 | mallum | superceeded now by openembedded which is easyier to use / add stuff too, hopefully somebody will add gpe to that |
| 13:05.04 | elephantum | I see |
| 14:01.20 | mallum | anyone tell me what image is currently recommended for 5550 ? |
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| 14:29.40 | mallum | florian_: hi, I just got a little gtk dock ordering app working :-) |
| 14:36.06 | florian_ | mallum: oh cool, let me see! |
| 14:42.56 | mallum | florian_: okey one sec |
| 14:45.08 | mallum | florian_: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/mbpanelmgr.png |
| 14:45.18 | mallum | florian_: I still need to sort layout etc |
| 14:46.23 | florian_ | ma |
| 14:46.29 | florian_ | argl |
| 14:46.53 | florian_ | mallum: cool... this was really necessary! |
| 14:50.47 | mallum | florian_: probably add a tab for enabling/disabling applets too |
| 14:52.00 | mallum | florian_: and I should finish the keyboard shortcuts manager but I dont thing GPE will be able to use that currently |
| 14:52.24 | florian_ | mallum: yes... this should be possible too. |
| 14:53.44 | mallum | florian_: the dep of gpe-login on keylaunch is the blocker I think ( and if people dont like the idea of mb managing key shortcuts ) |
| 15:00.16 | florian_ | mallum: keylaunch is nasty (but works), if mb is able to manage it i don't see a reason not to change this in future... |
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| 15:45.16 | CraHan | is this: http://gpe.handhelds.org/screenshots/view_photo.php?set_albumName=eyecandy&id=port_11207 a screenshot from gpe in unstable? |
| 15:45.26 | CraHan | or is it just a theme that can be applied to any version? |
| 15:48.28 | mallum | CraHan: thats a theme Im working on, not released as yet |
| 15:49.21 | CraHan | oh ok, while I'm here though, when I tap the battery icon in the panel |
| 15:49.31 | CraHan | the image that pops up is kind of screwed up |
| 15:49.50 | CraHan | I'm guessing it should be transparent, but I get the battery icon with a white/transparent bg instead |
| 15:49.56 | CraHan | looks rather strange |
| 15:50.31 | mallum | miniapm should work ok. minibatt does some hacky window operations |
| 15:53.21 | CraHan | ah... better to use miniapm then |
| 16:02.13 | CraHan | mallum: when your theme gets finished, be sure to let us all know |
| 16:02.19 | CraHan | looks kickass and just what I'm after :) |
| 16:27.21 | elephantum | florian: are you here? |
| 16:37.23 | elephantum | damn... |
| 16:37.38 | elephantum | all was that easy =( |
| 16:37.47 | elephantum | I should kill myself now |
| 16:39.14 | CraHan | this may sound like a stupid question, but how do you move one of the applets in the panel in gpe? |
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| 16:51.00 | pb_ | elephantum: ah, you fixed your problem? |
| 16:51.11 | elephantum | pb_: yeah |
| 16:51.18 | pb_ | jolly good |
| 16:51.26 | elephantum | problem was in my desktop linux |
| 16:51.42 | pb_ | aha |
| 16:51.44 | elephantum | recently I changed kernel from 2.4.21 to 2.4.22 |
| 16:53.17 | elephantum | and it appears so that module "ipaq" (that allows PocketPC to communicate with computer) intercepted in some way work with usb |
| 16:53.26 | elephantum | and usb0 was not created |
| 16:54.16 | elephantum | in 2.4.21 "ipaq" and "usbnet" could work simultaneously |
| 16:56.48 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:00.18 | CraHan | weird, changing the desktop font color in gpe doesn't have any effect |
| 17:01.45 | pb_ | that does sound strange. florian would be the man to ask about that. |
| 17:01.55 | CraHan | k |
| 17:02.08 | CraHan | and I'm still looking how to move an applet in the panel |
| 17:02.12 | CraHan | is that possible? |
| 17:07.07 | pb_ | I don't know. |
| 17:10.27 | sabrewulf | man, i am having the hardest time getting gpe to compile |
| 17:10.43 | CraHan | just wait until you get it running :) |
| 17:10.47 | sabrewulf | ha |
| 17:10.50 | CraHan | then it's a hunt to find hw it works :) |
| 17:10.54 | CraHan | *how |
| 17:10.58 | sabrewulf | bleh |
| 17:10.59 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:11.01 | sabrewulf | i'm not up for it |
| 17:11.20 | pb_ | what problems are you having with compilation? |
| 17:11.30 | sabrewulf | pb_: somewhere along the way it wants libesd |
| 17:11.40 | mallum | CraHan: you cant move panel applets easily currently ( idealy you shouldn't need to ) |
| 17:11.41 | sabrewulf | but i dont have it compiled arm-linux |
| 17:11.47 | sabrewulf | but esd requires audiofile |
| 17:11.52 | sabrewulf | and audiofile just won't compile |
| 17:12.01 | sabrewulf | complaints about __udiv* blah stuff |
| 17:12.03 | CraHan | mallum: what's the not so easy way to do it then? |
| 17:12.13 | mallum | CraHan: remove , re-add |
| 17:12.17 | CraHan | ah ok |
| 17:12.38 | CraHan | what I also find strange is the way the home button works in the filemanager |
| 17:12.43 | CraHan | it takes you to /mnt |
| 17:12.49 | pb_ | sabrewulf: ah. are you building esd from the gpe cvs tree? |
| 17:12.55 | CraHan | even though $HOME is set to /home/user |
| 17:12.59 | mallum | CraHan: I think the gpe startup scripts set up a default panel wrongly, so order of apps is random |
| 17:13.07 | sabrewulf | pb_: i didn't see it in the gpe cvs tree ;) |
| 17:13.13 | CraHan | mallum: oh ok |
| 17:13.26 | pb_ | sabrewulf: it's in gpe/base/esound. I think that version should compile without audiofile. |
| 17:13.37 | sabrewulf | ahhh esound |
| 17:13.38 | sabrewulf | :) |
| 17:13.45 | mallum | CraHan: it should be launchers to the left, everything else to the right |
| 17:14.11 | sabrewulf | pb_: thanks |
| 17:14.21 | sabrewulf | pb_: what about gnome-vfs .. is it in gpe/base also? |
| 17:15.37 | CraHan | mallum: yup seems to be fine now |
| 17:16.23 | sabrewulf | pb_: and i suppose i can ignore the error from configure saying audiofile is required ;) |
| 17:16.25 | CraHan | only annoying thing is the speed at which the input screen appears |
| 17:16.30 | florian | CraHan: this font color issue exists because mbbdesktop wants to select the color itself now... |
| 17:16.43 | CraHan | florian: yeah I solved it by choosing a custom bg color |
| 17:16.49 | pb_ | sabrewulf: no, I think you need to build that from the gnome tree. you might want to apply the patch from http://handhelds.org/~pb/gnome-vfs-no-bonobo.diff |
| 17:16.51 | CraHan | then it used a white font |
| 17:17.01 | CraHan | probably because it was a dark bg too |
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| 17:17.26 | CraHan | is there a way to speed up the keyboard display? |
| 17:17.36 | sabrewulf | pb_: thanks |
| 17:17.53 | mallum | CraHan: yeah, but not easily |
| 17:17.59 | CraHan | mallum: anything will do :) |
| 17:18.02 | sabrewulf | pb_: so all of gnome needs to be built from cvs too? |
| 17:18.05 | CraHan | unless you're talking compiling from source :) |
| 17:18.15 | mallum | CraHan: Im talking hacking the source :/ |
| 17:18.20 | CraHan | thought so |
| 17:18.22 | mallum | CraHan: its on my TODO |
| 17:18.34 | mallum | CraHan: shouldn't be that slow though |
| 17:19.49 | mallum | CraHan: we need more developers :/ |
| 17:20.09 | mallum | CraHan: you can count the active gpe devs on one hand |
| 17:20.14 | CraHan | darn |
| 17:20.17 | CraHan | wish I could code |
| 17:20.41 | CraHan | say mallum, is there any chance of getting a preview version of that theme you're working on? |
| 17:21.00 | mallum | CraHan: not really |
| 17:21.06 | mallum | CraHan: themes are pretty easy to make |
| 17:21.17 | mallum | CraHan: no coding knowledge required :-) |
| 17:21.43 | CraHan | true |
| 17:22.18 | pb_ | sabrewulf: if you want gnome, yes. |
| 17:22.21 | sabrewulf | pb_: does the skiff cluster have all this crap compiled? |
| 17:22.29 | pb_ | which crap in particular? |
| 17:22.36 | sabrewulf | the gnome crap, in particular :) |
| 17:22.46 | CraHan | heh.. ok, irc client and audio player crash |
| 17:22.47 | pb_ | no, I don't think the skiffcluster has any of gnome installed. |
| 17:22.49 | sabrewulf | pb_: now its complaining about pthread. guhh |
| 17:22.52 | pb_ | but you can get the binaries from debian, I guess. |
| 17:23.00 | sabrewulf | pb_: oh? |
| 17:23.29 | pb_ | CraHan: oh dear. |
| 17:23.43 | CraHan | yeah... |
| 17:23.45 | CraHan | dinner first |
| 17:23.49 | CraHan | then strace time :) |
| 17:23.53 | CraHan | bbiab |
| 17:24.30 | mallum | sabrewulf: if youre cross compiling gpe from scratch and not adverse to using bitkeeper it would be worth checking openembedded.org out and adding gpe to that |
| 17:24.45 | mallum | sabrewulf: that gives you a complete 'buildroot' of all dependencies |
| 17:24.52 | mallum | sabrewulf: ready for x-compiling |
| 17:25.16 | sabrewulf | hmmm |
| 17:25.24 | sabrewulf | bitkeeper costs cash, doesn't it? |
| 17:25.28 | sabrewulf | iirc |
| 17:25.44 | sabrewulf | pkg-config --libs gthread-2.0 |
| 17:25.44 | sabrewulf | -pthread -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 |
| 17:25.48 | mallum | no you can use the client for free |
| 17:25.54 | mallum | you just dont get the source :/ |
| 17:26.01 | sabrewulf | is looking for /lib/libpthread.so.0 in particular |
| 17:26.06 | sabrewulf | mallum: ah |
| 17:26.31 | mallum | sabrewulf: it has xlibs and gtk deps afaik |
| 17:27.22 | sabrewulf | hmm |
| 17:27.28 | sabrewulf | but i already have xlibs and gtk installed :) |
| 17:28.08 | mallum | yeah but you dont have a lot of the magic oe has |
| 17:28.15 | sabrewulf | hehe |
| 17:28.21 | mallum | which reduces much of the pain of x-compiling |
| 17:28.57 | mallum | and you wont be able to easily share your work with others + gain alot of respect |
| 17:29.34 | sabrewulf | i'm confused by your last statement |
| 17:29.42 | sabrewulf | i won't be able to easily share it? |
| 17:30.02 | mallum | people can download the oe buildroot and build there own images |
| 17:30.10 | mallum | for various platforms |
| 17:30.37 | mallum | adding gpe to that would therefore be very useful to others |
| 17:32.34 | sabrewulf | i see |
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| 17:40.18 | CraHan | well gpe-irc segfaults when clicking the smiley button |
| 17:40.34 | CraHan | same for clicking the quicklist |
| 17:41.24 | CraHan | the mediaplayer segfaults too, but I can't get anymore info as to where, it's when I try to change the volume |
| 17:42.48 | CraHan | florian: do you know if anyone is thinking about changing the volume applet so it matches the backlight applet in terms of look and feel? |
| 17:45.27 | florian | CraHan: I don't know, but this sounds like a good idea... i don't think this is much of work. The only problem i could think of is that minivol should stay pure xlib. |
| 17:45.36 | CraHan | k |
| 17:45.50 | CraHan | just noticed it kind of 'fell out' of the other applets |
| 17:45.56 | CraHan | yellow bg and all |
| 17:46.16 | florian | Yes, that's true... iirc it comes with the mb stuff. |
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| 18:08.08 | elephantum | I remember it was discussed, that it`s good to have ipkg package that installs ms ttf fonts. |
| 18:08.27 | elephantum | does this package exist? |
| 18:10.35 | pb_ | elephantum: no, I don't think this was ever created. |
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| 18:10.48 | pb_ | it'd still be a good idea, though. |
| 18:11.34 | elephantum | pb_: oh... "want smth done good - do it yourself" ) |
| 18:11.43 | pb_ | right |
| 18:13.44 | elephantum | may be you know. what modules do jffs2 support depend? |
| 18:15.53 | pb_ | jffs2 itself, obviously, plus mtdblock and whatever chip drivers you need. |
| 18:18.29 | elephantum | pb_: ok, thanks. but I plan to use it with -o loop |
| 18:18.55 | pb_ | oh, I see. in that case you need blkmtd. |
| 18:19.12 | elephantum | k |
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| 18:40.41 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 18:41.52 | jsmanrique | mallum: how to enable cookies in minimo? |
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| 19:06.44 | Tyg-Upstairs | hi all |
| 19:08.12 | florian | hi Tyg-Upstairs |
| 19:10.11 | Tyg-Upstairs | Heya Florian |
| 19:10.18 | Tyg-Upstairs | How's it going? |
| 19:10.33 | Tyg-Upstairs | How's the wifi stuff coming along? |
| 19:10.44 | Tyg-Upstairs | last I saw, it had you a bit stymied |
| 19:14.55 | florian | Tyg-Upstairs: Still needs some time, at the moment we need this iPAQ for other stuff... but i'm still working on it. |
| 19:21.09 | Tyg-Upstairs | cool |
| 19:36.59 | Tyg-Upstairs | One of these nicks has a future, and one of them does not. |
| 19:38.46 | Tyg-Upstairs | ps.. does gpe-plucker work for anyone out there? |
| 19:41.28 | florian | very basic... uh?! |
| 19:48.46 | florian | Anyone interested in testing new gpsdrive packages? |
| 19:50.04 | mallum | florian: is gpsdrive the us only program ? |
| 19:50.37 | florian | mallum: nope, this was something else... |
| 19:50.53 | florian | gpsdrive maintainer is from Austria :-) |
| 19:51.41 | florian | But i'm not sure how latest version behaves on pda... he included my patch, but who knows ;-) |
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| 20:58.53 | mallum_ | Is it good to run latest unstable kernel stuff on 5xxx ? |
| 20:58.58 | mallum_ | will wireless work ? |
| 21:09.56 | elephantum | mallum_: I`ve trouble. I created own .desktop file. it appeared in menu, but doesnt appear on desktop. |
| 21:10.08 | elephantum | mallum_: how can it be so? |
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| 21:49.39 | florian | mallum_: yes, it should work... at least managed mode. |
| 22:02.44 | mallum_ | florian: I cant get it to connect to my ap from a 0.7.2 flash currently |
| 22:02.55 | mallum_ | elephantum: dodes it appear if you restart the desktop ? |
| 22:04.29 | elephantum | no. I logoff/logon menu item exist, but desktop one is missed |
| 22:04.44 | mallum_ | elephantum: odd |
| 22:04.52 | mallum_ | elephantum: can you dump the .desktop file here ? |
| 22:04.57 | elephantum | sure |
| 22:05.03 | elephantum | wait a sec |
| 22:05.45 | elephantum | [Desktop Entry] |
| 22:05.45 | elephantum | Name=XBoard |
| 22:05.45 | elephantum | Comment=Chess |
| 22:05.45 | elephantum | Exec=chess |
| 22:05.45 | elephantum | Icon=xboard.png |
| 22:05.46 | elephantum | Terminal=0 |
| 22:05.48 | elephantum | Categories=Games |
| 22:06.36 | mallum_ | and where does the file live ? |
| 22:07.25 | elephantum | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.39 | mallum_ | thats really wierd |
| 22:09.20 | elephantum | yeah. executable chess is located in /home/el/bin/ |
| 22:09.37 | elephantum | may be it can help |
| 22:10.07 | mallum_ | should make any difference |
| 22:12.19 | elephantum | hm... may be I should provide more info? |
| 22:13.01 | mallum_ | elephantum: you are nameing the file with a .desktop extension right ? |
| 22:13.15 | elephantum | chess.desktop |
| 22:13.23 | elephantum | oops |
| 22:15.13 | mallum_ | elephantum: it didn't have .desktop extension ? |
| 22:15.18 | elephantum | nope. I thought name should be the same as Name= entry |
| 22:15.31 | elephantum | the name was chess.desktop |
| 22:15.45 | elephantum | now it is XBoard.desktop =) |
| 22:16.05 | mallum_ | that shouldn't make any difference as long as it ends in .desktop |
| 22:17.08 | mallum_ | ibot: unstable |
| 22:17.10 | | i heard unstable is at http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/ |
| 22:17.19 | elephantum | =) |
| 22:17.21 | mallum_ | eek |
| 22:17.41 | elephantum | you mean hh.org unstable? |
| 22:17.51 | mallum_ | yeah thats what I want |
| 22:18.12 | elephantum | I see you suggest me to install unstable version ? |
| 22:18.23 | mallum_ | no, its for me |
| 22:18.27 | elephantum | aah |
| 22:18.28 | mallum_ | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l is it I think |
| 22:21.28 | elephantum | mallum_: does matchbox in unstable have shadows and stuff? =) |
| 22:21.36 | mallum_ | elephantum: yessir |
| 22:21.55 | elephantum | wow. I should install it =) |
| 22:22.33 | elephantum | mallum_: where should I write http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l ? |
| 22:22.59 | elephantum | in /etc/ipkg/gpe.conf? |
| 22:23.13 | mallum_ | yeah |
| 22:23.30 | mallum_ | then ipkg update, ipkg upgrade and cross your fingers |
| 22:24.22 | elephantum | oops... may be I can upgrade only one package? |
| 22:24.58 | mallum_ | elephantum: yeah maybe |
| 22:25.27 | mallum_ | elephantum: matchbox with the composite stuff needs new xserver and new libs too though |
| 22:25.38 | elephantum | oh |
| 22:25.49 | elephantum | sounds easier to do upgrade |
| 22:25.51 | elephantum | =) |
| 22:26.09 | mallum_ | yeah, ipkg always seems to do something odd whatever you do anywat ;-) |
| 22:26.33 | elephantum | ok. now pray with me! |
| 22:27.38 | elephantum | I always do ipkg -V 2 |
| 22:27.45 | mallum_ | yeah |
| 22:28.12 | mallum_ | hmm, depmod is spewing rrors all over the place |
| 22:29.34 | elephantum | what are you doing? |
| 22:29.54 | mallum_ | I just installed familiar on my 5550 |
| 22:30.25 | elephantum | oh. you should inform me about everything you do |
| 22:30.53 | elephantum | cause I could buy 5xxx too |
| 22:31.29 | mallum_ | yeah they are nice |
| 22:32.30 | elephantum | unbelievable! it upgraded and still working! =) |
| 22:33.04 | mallum_ | yeah was ok for me too |
| 22:33.13 | florian | mallum_: i know... i think you need a newer kernel |
| 22:33.17 | mallum_ | needed to reboot for some reason to get the shadows to kick in |
| 22:33.32 | elephantum | woooaah!!! I like this shadows! =) |
| 22:33.52 | mallum_ | florian: I got the wireless up, but it didn't come up till I ifconfig'd the interface which was wierd |
| 22:33.57 | mallum_ | elephantum: :-) |
| 22:34.19 | florian | ibot: unstable? |
| 22:34.21 | | somebody said unstable was http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l |
| 22:34.29 | florian | *gg* |
| 22:34.33 | pb_ | florian: :-) |
| 22:34.35 | elephantum | florian: =) |
| 22:34.40 | mallum_ | ibot: unstable |
| 22:34.42 | | [unstable] http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l |
| 22:34.49 | mallum_ | hehe |
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| 22:35.16 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 22:35.31 | florian | jsmanrique: hello |
| 22:36.10 | elephantum | hmm... must go to sleep now |
| 22:36.21 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: whats up with cookies ? |
| 22:36.25 | elephantum | good night everyone |
| 22:37.23 | jsmanrique | mallum_: trying Yahoo email, it says that my navigator (minimo) has cookies disabled |
| 22:38.00 | mallum_ | el|zzz: g'night |
| 22:38.02 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: odd |
| 22:44.14 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: goto :/usr/lib/minimo/defaults/pref |
| 22:44.48 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: grep for cookie there |
| 22:45.16 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: btw what machine are you running minimo on ? |
| 22:46.48 | jsmanrique | mallum_: h3870 |
| 22:47.03 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: okey |
| 22:47.15 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: did grep show anything ? |
| 22:48.21 | jsmanrique | mallum_: not yet, give 5 minutes |
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| 22:49.37 | mallum_ | hmm, I keep getting this QLAN00000 wifi lan showing up, I guess it must be in a house near by |
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| 22:56.55 | mallum_ | florian: do the 5500's suspend/awake ok ? |
| 22:57.47 | florian | mallum_: i think latest kernel should, but i didn't try this so far... |
| 22:59.57 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I've found something |
| 23:01.00 | jsmanrique | pref("network.cookie.disableCookieForMailNews", true); |
| 23:01.31 | jsmanrique | mallum_:I've to search which file contains that.. maybe security-prefs.js |
| 23:01.45 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: I think it is in all.js |
| 23:02.33 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yes |
| 23:03.54 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: try changing some of them settings and restarting |
| 23:04.18 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: if you hvae any success mail me ( mallum@handhelds.org ) and I'll fix it in the package |
| 23:04.26 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: I p[lan to build new packages tommorow |
| 23:04.46 | jsmanrique | mallum_: ok, just another thing about minimo |
| 23:05.08 | jsmanrique | mallum_: could the tool bar be similar to Dillo one? |
| 23:05.57 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I have File in one bar, and Reload, Stop, etc.. and url in other, and I can't see url text |
| 23:08.34 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: yeah I've done that |
| 23:08.43 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: plan to package it tommorow |
| 23:09.29 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: also I've been talking to minimo dev's about working togeather on a proper frontend |
| 23:10.03 | jsmanrique | mallum_: great news |
| 23:11.09 | jsmanrique | pb_ & mallum_: maybe the friend of mine working in a new linux device contact you |
| 23:11.48 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: okey. |
| 23:12.08 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: please play with the all.js and get back to me if you can |
| 23:12.33 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yes I'll do |
| 23:14.49 | jsmanrique | what does p3p mean? |
| 23:14.57 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: dunno |
| 23:15.11 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: try setting it to 0 |
| 23:15.21 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yes, that's is |
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| 23:16.08 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: it worked ? |
| 23:16.35 | jsmanrique | 1 min |
| 23:16.44 | mallum_ | 60 |
| 23:16.46 | mallum_ | 59 |
| 23:16.48 | mallum_ | 58 |
| 23:16.50 | mallum_ | 57 |
| 23:16.51 | mallum_ | .... |
| 23:18.32 | jsmanrique | cookies rejected :/ |
| 23:18.48 | jsmanrique | have I to restart whole GPE? |
| 23:19.13 | mallum_ | no, just minimo |
| 23:19.34 | mallum_ | you could try the dom.disable_cookie_get/set settings to true |
| 23:23.04 | mallum_ | florian: is current ( unstable ) wifi support for 5xxx's pretty flakey ? |
| 23:26.23 | florian | mallum_: I'm one or two kernel versions back, at least with the ap i used it works fine. Performance could be better, but it seems to work fine... |
| 23:28.16 | mallum_ | florian: its seems to try and connect to some mystery network on boot ( a neighbour I think ) |
| 23:28.30 | mallum_ | florian: when I try and change settings *sometimes* it locks up |
| 23:30.30 | florian | mallum_: eh, this sounds nasty... |
| 23:31.46 | mallum_ | gnight florian ! |
| 23:36.57 | pb_ | jsmanrique: jolly good |
| 23:37.16 | jsmanrique | pb_: I am talking with the boy I said before, now |
| 23:42.18 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I am trying to find the line you mentioned earlier |
| 23:42.52 | jsmanrique | mallum_: but for what I've seen the value I changed before, is unchanged now |
| 23:43.04 | jsmanrique | mallum_: and I am editing as root |
| 23:44.30 | jsmanrique | I don't understand. I've saved with ZZ under vi, and it is still unchanged |
| 23:47.02 | pb_ | jsmanrique: aha, I just received mail from your man. But there seems to be some horrific mistake; he thinks I know about Opie. |
| 23:47.47 | jsmanrique | pb_: don't you? |
| 23:48.01 | pb_ | not really, no. |
| 23:48.06 | jsmanrique | pb_: I think you know about it, that's why he is thinking that |
| 23:48.45 | pb_ | ah, I see. |
| 23:48.46 | jsmanrique | pb_: perhaps I have misunderstood that |
| 23:50.13 | jsmanrique | it is strange, but I can't change values |
| 23:50.15 | pb_ | oh well. I'll write back to him in the morning, anyway. I can certainly tell him about GPE, and he asks some questions about NAND flash which I can answer as well. |
| 23:50.46 | jsmanrique | mallum_: values changes on the screen, but doing cat after saving, it appear unchanged |
| 23:50.55 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok, I0ll tell him |
| 23:51.08 | jsmanrique | pb_: he is in Australia, so he is awake now :-) |
| 23:51.15 | pb_ | heh, right. |
| 23:51.50 | jsmanrique | pb_: I suggested him about NAND, because you suggested me that sometime ago :-) |
| 23:52.01 | pb_ | right :-) |
| 23:52.24 | jsmanrique | pb_: I am not a developer, but I use to learn lessons fast :-D |
| 23:53.04 | jsmanrique | mallum_:ok, it is my fault |
| 23:53.13 | jsmanrique | mallum_: it appears read-only |
| 23:53.24 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I should have changed permissions |
| 23:54.30 | jsmanrique | mallum_: oops, I can't |
| 23:54.47 | jsmanrique | mallum_: chmod 755 all.js |
| 23:55.37 | jsmanrique | mallum_: chmod : all.js: Operation not permitted |
