| 00:01.45 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 00:01.52 | pb_ | reenoo: night |
| 00:01.57 | florian | pb_: I see a ioctl that looks good... but iwlist wlan0 scanning fails |
| 00:02.07 | pb_ | ah, what does it say? |
| 00:02.38 | herzi | hi florian |
| 00:04.20 | florian | pb_: "Interface doesn't support scanning..." |
| 00:04.32 | pb_ | hm, that sounds bad. you're definitely using hostap, not orinoco? |
| 00:04.53 | florian | pb_: yes, it has _many_ ioctls |
| 00:05.04 | pb_ | SIOCSIWSCAN is the important one for that. |
| 00:05.14 | pb_ | Does it say "Operation not supported", or something else? |
| 00:06.02 | florian | pb_: "invalid Argument" |
| 00:06.17 | pb_ | If you have your h5500 on hand, I know that the atmel driver in hh36 works with iwlist scan. |
| 00:06.29 | pb_ | Let me look at hostap and see if I can see a cause for that. |
| 00:07.15 | pb_ | florian: do any debugging messages appear in dmesg? |
| 00:07.28 | florian | ok, i used latest release from their website and current unstable wireless-tools |
| 00:08.26 | pb_ | ah, ok. I was looking at the version in handhelds.org cvs, though I think they should be similar. |
| 00:10.32 | florian | pb_: something strange happened: removed the card, put it back: scanning worked in default mode (master, essid "test"). switching to manged mode it stopped working. |
| 00:10.52 | pb_ | ah, that's strange indeed. |
| 00:10.59 | pb_ | what firmware versions does your card have? |
| 00:12.39 | florian | NIC 4.2.1 PRI 4.4.1 STA 7.28.1 |
| 00:14.04 | pb_ | There's a bit of code in prism2_ioctl_siwscan() to select a different scan method depending on the STA version. You could try commenting that out and making it use the _scan() version all the time. |
| 00:14.44 | pb_ | I think that code is a fairly new addition. The version in our CVS doesn't have that. |
| 00:17.12 | florian | Sounds like a good idea... i think i'll try that... but after some sleep. |
| 00:17.42 | pb_ | Okay :-) |
| 00:18.24 | pb_ | All my prism cards are at the Nexus office at the moment, but I will try this myself on Monday. |
| 00:20.31 | florian | Yep... when this works it should be easy to make prismstumbler using this feature for speed and fallback. |
| 00:21.13 | pb_ | Right. |
| 00:37.37 | pb_ | florian: night |
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| 02:44.43 | Tyg-Upstairs | 'lo all |
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| 10:57.22 | florian | marning |
| 10:57.28 | Debolaz | Moin |
| 10:57.33 | florian | eh morning |
| 10:57.39 | Debolaz | Any happy surprises for me regarding aerial? :) |
| 10:58.26 | florian | Debolaz: not yet, but i started to work on it... |
| 11:02.57 | pigeon | can I ask why the year view in gpe-calendar is gone? |
| 11:22.09 | florian | hmmm... interesting question |
| 11:23.36 | pigeon | i'm still disappointed with 0.7.2's gpe. :\ |
| 11:26.18 | florian | This is not good! What is wrong? |
| 11:26.25 | florian | brb, food |
| 11:40.25 | florian | re |
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| 11:56.56 | pb_ | afternoon all |
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| 12:59.12 | Tyg-Upstairs | morning all |
| 12:59.40 | Tyg-Upstairs | is that Florian I see? |
| 13:08.45 | Tyg-Upstairs | Florian: you around? |
| 14:18.06 | TyggerBob | Florian: if you get back.. I was just curious to see how your PrismStumbler/Aerial stuff was going.. |
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| 14:46.54 | florian_ | hi TyggerBob |
| 14:48.31 | pb_ | hi florian_ |
| 14:58.24 | florian_ | hi pb_ |
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| 15:02.38 | florian_ | mallum: hi |
| 15:02.48 | mallum | hey florian_ |
| 15:04.18 | florian_ | mallum: I suffer from the same problem Libor reported... my problem is that i have no connection to my ipaq, so debugging needs to wait until tomorrow. |
| 15:05.02 | mallum | florian_: hmm, it should work fine with a non composite server |
| 15:05.10 | mallum | florian_: what exactly happens ? |
| 15:05.56 | mallum | florian_: mb crashes ? |
| 15:06.21 | florian_ | mallum: I'm not sure, tried to log in as root (for the first time) and got the common question dialogs - but without decoration. so it looks like a matchbox crash. |
| 15:06.45 | mallum | florian_: I think the common questions come up before hand |
| 15:06.54 | mallum | florian_: before mathcbox |
| 15:07.14 | mallum | florian_: normally a matchbox crash drops you back to login |
| 15:09.05 | florian_ | mallum: this is what happens now... and it happens fast |
| 15:11.04 | mallum | florian_: okey, lemme test |
| 15:11.22 | mallum | florian_: last time I tried it against a non-composite server it worked fine |
| 15:11.29 | mallum | florian_: I will test now |
| 15:12.18 | florian_ | mallum: ok, great... if this doesn't give clue i'll try to look for details on my ipaq tomorrow |
| 15:12.52 | mallum | florian_: yeah that'd be cool. I build in protection for this kind of thing so it probably something silly I can fix quickly |
| 15:13.06 | mallum | s/build/built/ |
| 15:14.25 | mallum | florian_: its also possible its something else crashing matchbox |
| 15:15.47 | pb_ | There does seem to be a sporadic problem with matchbox crashing on the very first login. I've never been all that worried about it, though, because it always seems to work fine after that, and most users think that's just the way it's intended to work. |
| 15:17.11 | mallum | hmm, before this matchbox the only way I new of tyo crash it was to open a window and close it really quickly. But thats fixed now |
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| 15:32.20 | mallum | florian_: I ran a CM matchbox throguh a full test suite run against XNest ( ie no composite ) and it was fine |
| 15:35.34 | florian_ | mallum: ok, then i think it is something else... i'll try to find out what happens tomorrow. |
| 15:36.00 | mallum | florian_: there were other changes in matchbox so it could be that crashing it |
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| 15:36.46 | mallum | florian_: it could also be a server crash rather than a matchbox one |
| 15:38.16 | mallum | florian_: I got this gps now and the software has maps for all of Europe, I wonder how hard it would be to reverse engineer the format of the maps so they could be converted for use with free software ? |
| 15:42.44 | florian_ | mallum: i never headr of someone who had success... but it might be worth a try. would be cool to access vector maps :-) |
| 15:45.57 | florian_ | bbl |
| 16:04.51 | TyggerBob | Hey Mallum: |
| 16:05.33 | mallum | hey TyggerBob |
| 16:05.51 | TyggerBob | Guess I missed Florian, eh? |
| 16:06.12 | pb_ | heh. so it seems. |
| 16:06.22 | TyggerBob | No problem.. |
| 16:06.28 | TyggerBob | had two minutes between parental duties :) |
| 16:06.49 | TyggerBob | logging this channel anyway, just in case some interesting info floats by |
| 16:07.40 | mallum | TyggerBob: we live in hope ;-) |
| 16:30.33 | mallum | pb_: for 2.6 to work on debian is there any extra packages you need to downlaod ? |
| 16:30.55 | pb_ | you'll need module-init-tools, but other than that it should be ok |
| 16:31.27 | mallum | pb_: ah cool, I new there was something |
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| 17:42.01 | pb_ | mallum: what's the latest situation with your touchscreen-calibrating extension? |
| 17:44.13 | mallum | pb_: atm I kind of resorted to the feeling that to it without Xinput its gonna be just as nasty as just doing it on a seperate vt |
| 17:44.31 | mallum | pb_: except a lot more more work |
| 17:45.18 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:47.18 | mallum | pb_: I think it'd be easier to work round the current rotation matching problem by means of a switch/env var to ts_calibrate |
| 17:51.17 | pb_ | What was the problem with the extension? It sounded like you had it almost finished last time we spoke about it. |
| 17:52.03 | mallum | pb_: I had it working in terms of being able to toggle the ts filtering on off via a client |
| 17:52.45 | mallum | pb_: but it seems the mi layer does its own filtering so unfiltered ts co-ords would get clipped to screen invalidating them |
| 17:53.29 | pb_ | Ah, right. I thought you were going to supply the unfiltered coordinates as a special event type to avoid that. |
| 17:53.34 | mallum | pb_: so you'd have to generate special events at which time you wouldn't get normal events |
| 17:53.43 | mallum | normal mouse events |
| 17:55.41 | mallum | pb_: I can send you the stuff I have if you want. but to me it all seems just as hacky as switching vt's |
| 17:56.18 | mallum | pb_: except switching vt's is alot simpler and maybe even safer |
| 18:04.43 | pb_ | Mmm. It'd be interesting to look at the code, yeah. |
| 18:15.35 | mallum | pb_: okey I uploaded tarball to http://freedesktop.org/~mallum/tslibext-hacks.tar.gz |
| 18:16.13 | mallum | pb_: there are two xlibs dirs for extension headers and client lib, and a server dir for the server side part of the extension |
| 18:17.39 | pb_ | cool, thanks |
| 18:17.58 | mallum | pb_: I really think if you wanna do calibration within X effort would be better spent looking at XInput |
| 18:26.45 | mallum | pb_: oh and Id really appreciate if you could still keep tslib still working in X without the extension |
| 18:31.25 | pb_ | sure. I can't imagine tslib would ever require the extension. |
| 18:34.54 | mallum | yeah I mean the hw/kdrive/linux/tslib.c driver stuff, just #ifdef any extra calibration bits - I dont think it should be much anyway |
| 18:37.18 | mallum | one sec |
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| 18:43.36 | mallum | ello |
| 18:51.30 | mallum | pb_: is that ok with you - keeping x tslib driver working without extension ? |
| 18:52.41 | pb_ | sure |
| 18:54.32 | mallum | pb_: good luck with it. |
| 18:56.50 | pb_ | :-) |
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| 19:02.20 | luc_ | hi all |
| 20:24.27 | pigeon | hmm, pcmcia suspend/resume not working is a known issue now in latest familiar? |
| 20:50.25 | pb_ | hi luc_ |
| 20:50.32 | pb_ | pigeon: not that I know of. |
| 20:56.28 | Debolaz | pb_: What do you think of making a feed like "unstable-but-stuff-you-need-to-make-stuff-work"? Ie, so I won't have to install packages manually from the unstable feed to make say bluetooth work with hh35. |
| 20:57.01 | pb_ | Debolaz: that's approximately what 0.7.2 is supposed to be. |
| 20:58.17 | Debolaz | Is it though? I recall updating the kernel and bluetooth not functioning with gpe. |
| 20:58.56 | pb_ | The new gpe-bluetooth isn't in 0.7.2 because it doesn't work at all for some people. |
| 20:59.23 | pb_ | actually, it doesn't work at all for Jamey, but it seems to be okay other than that. |
| 21:00.31 | Debolaz | I have a more gpe related question too. When I first install the system, the battery dock will give me a picture of a battery when I click it, but when it's removed and I have to readd it, it will only give me an orange box when I click it. |
| 21:00.38 | Debolaz | Why? |
| 21:00.55 | pb_ | I guess those are two different battery applets. |
| 21:01.16 | pb_ | The first one is probably minibat, and the second one is most likely miniapm. |
| 21:01.45 | Debolaz | How do I get minibat back if not from the Add menu? |
| 21:02.02 | pb_ | You might have to invoke it from the command line. |
| 21:02.36 | pb_ | When you say "it's removed", do you mean it's crashing? |
| 21:03.01 | Debolaz | In this particular case, I removed it manually, but it has crashed before. |
| 21:03.41 | pb_ | Okay. Well, please file a bug report next time that happens, and mention what the circumstances were. |
| 21:06.22 | Debolaz | </whine> |
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| 21:11.28 | Debolaz | pb_: Btw, with hh36, it's indeed possible to shut down the wifi scanner, but you have to bring eth0 up first before bringing it down (Even though the scanner is on by default) |
| 21:11.59 | pb_ | Hm, right. It sounds like something is still not quite right there, then. |
| 21:12.21 | Debolaz | And ifconfig eth0 up will not make the led start blinking again. |
| 21:12.21 | mallum | Debolaz: sqlite is just sql, you can hack it from the cmd line |
| 21:15.09 | Debolaz | pb_: iwlist scan makes it blink though. |
| 21:18.02 | pb_ | Debolaz: maybe you'd like to fix that. |
| 21:18.33 | mallum | Debolaz: yeah add it to your list ... how is that going btw ? |
| 21:19.06 | Debolaz | mallum: I can add that to my list right after making the entire kernel compile. :) |
| 21:19.26 | Debolaz | Which is a time issue, not a technical. :) |
| 21:38.17 | pigeon | pb_: hmm |
| 21:38.35 | pigeon | pb_: it doesn't work well after suspend and resume :\ |
| 21:40.01 | pb_ | pigeon: can you be any more specific? |
| 21:40.51 | pigeon | pb_: hmm, i tried with my pcmcia network card, suspend, resume, network won't come up again, unless I reinsert the card. |
| 21:41.24 | pigeon | also, my cf+ sleeve, sometimes inserting the sleeve and the cf card will not work, I need to reboot the ipaq and it will come up. |
| 21:42.55 | pigeon | (all these used to work well on my good old 3630 with old familiar) |
| 21:45.23 | pigeon | and now it is fam latest with a 3870 |
| 21:45.44 | pigeon | s/it/this/ |
| 21:47.03 | pb_ | by "latest", do you mean 0.7.2, or unstable? |
| 21:47.28 | pigeon | in fact, i tried both last night. |
| 21:47.41 | pigeon | I flashed with 0.7.2 root last night. |
| 21:47.44 | pigeon | tried a few things. |
| 21:47.55 | pigeon | then i up-ed it to unstable. |
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| 22:55.14 | llanero | hi all |
| 22:55.23 | llanero | after looking at the screenshots |
| 22:55.30 | llanero | and coming to last guadec |
| 22:55.47 | llanero | my question is why there is not an gnumeric like application |
| 22:55.59 | llanero | this is a very simple spreadsheet |
| 22:56.07 | llanero | but a bit more than a calculator |
| 22:56.11 | llanero | anyone? |
| 22:56.51 | llanero | I'm going to sleep now, if anyone has any idea/answer, please, tellme at llanero@jazzfree.com |
| 22:56.53 | llanero | thanks! |