| 00:03.01 | pb_ | treke: everything except the xserver would be fine on husky, so it shouldn't be too hard to assemble a working collection of bits. |
| 00:08.56 | treke | Yeah. It wasnt that hard, it just took forever :p |
| 00:10.13 | pb_ | Aha. |
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| 00:29.38 | Tyg-Upstrs | 'lo all |
| 00:30.31 | luis | wee |
| 00:30.42 | luis | now i can have my own name as a nick |
| 00:30.49 | luis | oh exciting |
| 00:30.58 | Tyg-Upstrs | Happy Day |
| 00:31.23 | pb_ | luis: congratulations |
| 00:34.00 | luis | now i only need a trailing _ to be l33t |
| 00:34.19 | pb_ | exactly. |
| 00:34.53 | pb_ | gerg: congtarulations to you as well. |
| 00:35.11 | gerg | Yeah. My name isnt available :( |
| 00:39.22 | Tyg-Upstrs | luis: LOL |
| 00:51.19 | Tyg-Upstrs | Ahhhh.. babies are down... |
| 00:52.06 | Tyg-Upstrs | Guess it's time to get back to work.. |
| 00:52.17 | Tyg-Upstrs | no rest for the disorganized... |
| 00:52.49 | luis | amen |
| 00:54.54 | Tyg-Upstrs | Almost done.. second draft of my doc goes out tomorrow.. come hell or high water |
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| 04:00.50 | Tyg_Wrk | Poop! Anyone else getting this: |
| 04:00.51 | Tyg_Wrk | Running script /tmp/ipkg-WUmnaR/xserver-kdrive-fbdev-FtfaZT/preinst |
| 04:00.51 | Tyg_Wrk | SIGSEGV |
| 04:00.59 | Tyg_Wrk | during an upgrade? |
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| 08:36.21 | florian_kc | hi all |
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| 10:13.11 | {HyGy} | re |
| 10:14.14 | {HyGy} | florian_kc |
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| 10:57.08 | florian | re |
| 10:58.39 | mallum | hey florian |
| 10:58.56 | florian | hi mallum |
| 11:04.18 | {HyGy} | florian |
| 11:04.21 | {HyGy} | mallum hi |
| 11:04.58 | mallum | hello {HyGy} |
| 11:52.30 | florian | hi {HyGy} |
| 13:04.02 | florian | bbl |
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| 15:21.39 | mallum | florian_kc: ewewewewew, I just read about this german 'cannibal' case :/ |
| 15:26.45 | florian_kc | re |
| 15:27.32 | florian_kc | mallum: Note... sounds strange... have a link? |
| 15:27.44 | florian_kc | s/Note/Nope |
| 15:28.12 | mallum | http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/0.91/public/-/1/hi/world/europe/3286721.stm |
| 15:33.47 | florian_kc | mallum: oh... ok... i remember this was in the news some time ago... |
| 15:37.37 | {HyGy} | mallum have you compilled the hungarian calendar and contacts? |
| 15:37.37 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 15:37.42 | {HyGy} | and gpe-login? |
| 15:37.43 | {HyGy} | :) |
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| 15:40.16 | florian_kc | {HyGy}: hungarian contacts translation? :-) |
| 15:40.40 | mallum | {HyGy}: nope, I dont understand one word of hungarian so why would I do that ? |
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| 16:03.20 | mallum | treke: hi |
| 16:03.31 | {HyGy} | eh |
| 16:03.47 | {HyGy} | mallum :) i mean, compilled :) |
| 16:03.51 | {HyGy} | not translated |
| 16:04.28 | {HyGy} | I found some error: In gpe-to-do list I can't save any to-do. |
| 16:04.32 | {HyGy} | so I can't use it |
| 16:04.44 | {HyGy} | when I click to save it is falls |
| 16:06.06 | mallum | {HyGy}: I dont do the gpe builds |
| 16:06.24 | {HyGy} | sorry I though U do |
| 16:09.23 | {HyGy} | oh I think I'v found it, |
| 16:09.34 | {HyGy} | when I'm a simple user it is falls :) |
| 16:12.42 | florian_kc | {HyGy}: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gpe-contacts-hu_0.15_all.ipk |
| 16:13.13 | {HyGy} | that is hungarian? |
| 16:14.23 | florian_kc | {HyGy}: Yes, this is the language package for gpe-contacts, i hope we have V0.15 in feed... |
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| 16:22.52 | {HyGy} | okay at home I'll download it/ |
| 16:23.00 | {HyGy} | florian_kc why can I use gpe-todo as a user? |
| 16:23.31 | {HyGy} | hmm, now it is working :) |
| 16:23.45 | {HyGy} | ony the first to-do is need to created as a user |
| 16:24.02 | {HyGy} | no it is working |
| 16:25.28 | {HyGy} | no=now |
| 16:26.17 | {HyGy} | hmm |
| 16:26.25 | {HyGy} | sometimes the ipaq is turning off |
| 16:26.40 | {HyGy} | when it is not in the cardles while I unsing it |
| 16:28.18 | florian_kc | {HyGy}: This is strange... which model do you use? |
| 16:28.33 | {HyGy} | 3630 |
| 16:29.34 | {HyGy} | ipaq :) |
| 16:30.28 | florian_kc | You could try to kill ipaq-sleep... it would be interesting to know if it has to do with it... |
| 16:34.45 | {HyGy} | how can I install this single file? |
| 16:35.46 | {HyGy} | stopped ipaq sleep |
| 16:37.01 | florian_kc | {HyGy}: ipkg install file.ipk |
| 16:37.06 | {HyGy} | aha |
| 16:37.09 | {HyGy} | ok |
| 16:37.17 | {HyGy} | Going to home. :) Than I come back. |
| 16:37.18 | {HyGy} | thanks |
| 16:37.18 | {HyGy} | all |
| 16:37.19 | {HyGy} | bye |
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| 17:27.29 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:28.00 | treke | mallum: mornin |
| 17:28.49 | mallum | treke: hey |
| 17:29.07 | mallum | treke: I noticed that japan site has a updated patch for w100 |
| 17:29.15 | treke | Oh? Cool |
| 17:29.21 | mallum | treke: I built a kernel with it, but cant find compact flash card :/ |
| 17:29.29 | treke | Anything nifty in it? |
| 17:29.33 | mallum | http://www.piro.hopto.org/~piro/zaurus/linux-c750-20031124-2.patch.bz2 |
| 17:30.03 | mallum | some LCD buffering stuff which I dont quite get and whats looks like a w100 driver that should do all orientation controlled via /proc |
| 17:30.59 | mallum | its at the end of the patch |
| 17:31.10 | treke | sweeet |
| 17:31.12 | mallum | Im always losing damn cf cards |
| 17:31.17 | treke | 90,180,270,0 |
| 17:31.35 | mallum | yep :-) |
| 17:32.24 | mallum | any ideas on what the LCD buffering stuff does ? |
| 17:32.33 | mallum | hehe |
| 17:32.55 | mallum | all I can find is my 8mb one |
| 17:32.59 | treke | mallum: I remember there was some really short lcd buffering patch. It was supposed to help performance |
| 17:33.03 | treke | mallum: 8mb is enough. |
| 17:33.14 | mallum | treke: can I flash just the kernel ? |
| 17:33.17 | treke | yup |
| 17:33.34 | mallum | just the zImage and updater.sh ? |
| 17:33.37 | treke | you can flash the initrd alone and the zImage alone |
| 17:33.39 | treke | yeah |
| 17:33.57 | treke | I almost never reflash my kernel |
| 17:34.18 | treke | mallum: The other good news is kergoth found out that zauruses just use the plain pxa mmc controller |
| 17:34.28 | treke | mallum: So 2.6 + sd/mmc support is a possibility |
| 17:35.18 | mallum | oh rock |
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| 17:36.22 | treke | mallum: Mickeyl said he noticed a signficant framebuffer performance improvement on simpad with 2.6 |
| 17:36.37 | {HyGy} | re |
| 17:37.11 | mallum | treke: have you seen http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/screenshots.html |
| 17:37.19 | treke | I've used minimo |
| 17:37.50 | treke | mallum: I was very impressed with performance. |
| 17:38.16 | mallum | yeah it rocks |
| 17:38.24 | mallum | looks like its been updated to use xft too |
| 17:38.34 | mallum | I can build it currently as arm box is out of action :/ |
| 17:40.21 | {HyGy} | florian |
| 17:40.21 | treke | :( |
| 17:40.24 | {HyGy} | ? |
| 17:40.29 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg install gpe-contacts-hu_0.15_all.ipk |
| 17:40.34 | {HyGy} | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-contacts-hu: |
| 17:40.34 | {HyGy} | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.58 | treke | I'm gonna guess that gpe-contacts-hu is just the translated text for gpe-contacts |
| 17:41.42 | treke | mallum: I think husky/shepherd could really fly with 2.6, gcc3, and the w100 rotation :) |
| 17:41.44 | {HyGy} | yes it is |
| 17:42.34 | mallum | treke: indeed |
| 17:43.03 | {HyGy} | whow |
| 17:43.09 | {HyGy} | it is working with nodeps! |
| 17:43.42 | mallum | treke: can you remember the combo of keys I need to press for flashing ? |
| 17:47.26 | treke | power + ok |
| 17:48.35 | {HyGy} | when will florian come back? |
| 17:48.36 | mallum | how the hell I am sposed to remember that ;-) |
| 17:48.51 | treke | do it 10 times a day for a month? :p |
| 17:49.20 | {HyGy} | write it smwhere |
| 17:50.13 | mallum | oks its flashed, keep your fingers and toes crossed ppl |
| 17:56.51 | {HyGy} | now what? |
| 17:57.29 | mallum | treke: hmm, pcmcia-cs is crashing |
| 17:57.33 | mallum | no network :/ |
| 17:57.44 | treke | but what about the rotation? :p |
| 17:58.10 | mallum | leme try |
| 17:58.59 | treke | if it ends up working we can strip out the non fb related stuff |
| 18:01.04 | mallum | arg stupid console |
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| 18:01.12 | {HyGy} | florian hi! |
| 18:01.14 | florian | re |
| 18:01.32 | {HyGy} | florian i installed the package (only with --nodeps is good) |
| 18:02.12 | florian | {HyGy}: Is gpe-contacts a different version in feed? |
| 18:02.36 | {HyGy} | florian and the contacts is hungarian but not 100% :) there is english menus what I cant see in the downloaded po file |
| 18:03.33 | treke | mallum: Any luck? |
| 18:03.33 | {HyGy} | florian how can I see the installed ipkg version |
| 18:03.34 | {HyGy} | ? |
| 18:03.47 | {HyGy} | under debian is dpkg -i | grep stg |
| 18:05.41 | {HyGy} | ipkg status |
| 18:05.42 | florian | {HyGy}: The package version is determined by ipkg status <packagename> |
| 18:05.44 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:05.48 | florian | :-) |
| 18:05.52 | mallum | treke: well the /proc entry is there cant figure out how to change rotation though |
| 18:06.00 | mallum | treke: echo's stuff to it seems to fail |
| 18:06.10 | {HyGy} | Package: gpe-contacts2 |
| 18:06.13 | {HyGy} | Version: 0.15 |
| 18:06.37 | treke | you tried echo 270 > rotationfile? |
| 18:09.23 | mallum | yeah, only seem to be able to get 90 & 270 |
| 18:09.44 | treke | write_rotation only seems to handle 90 and 270 |
| 18:10.26 | {HyGy} | florian this translation is to gpe-contacts or gpe-contacts2? |
| 18:12.06 | treke | There is code here for all four though, so it must be doable |
| 18:12.17 | mallum | yeah |
| 18:12.42 | mallum | treke: seems its an ioctl ; |
| 18:12.45 | mallum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.47 | mallum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.47 | mallum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.04 | treke | is that what it is? |
| 18:13.35 | treke | I don't actually have the full w100fb file here, and the context is a bit of a pain in the diff |
| 18:14.42 | mallum | yeah |
| 18:15.07 | mallum | treke: do you think pcmcia-cs needs updating, thats why it crash ? |
| 18:18.50 | mallum | treke: yeah it looks like it is the ioctl |
| 18:19.51 | {HyGy} | florian can U explain me stg? |
| 18:20.42 | {HyGy} | I flashed bootgpe2-v0.7.2-h3600.jffs2. It is the unstable version not? |
| 18:20.45 | florian | {HyGy}: gpe-contacts2 |
| 18:21.06 | florian | {HyGy}: nope, this is stable |
| 18:21.10 | {HyGy} | florian i have gpe-contacts2 |
| 18:21.15 | mallum | treke: I have to shott out now, will have to hack more later |
| 18:21.21 | {HyGy} | then what is v0.7.1? |
| 18:21.23 | mallum | treke: definetly looks hopeful anyway |
| 18:21.43 | florian | {HyGy}: the stable version before 0.7.2 |
| 18:21.50 | {HyGy} | aha |
| 18:21.55 | {HyGy} | so that is old |
| 18:22.10 | {HyGy} | and the link what u give me to write into ipkg.conf |
| 18:22.14 | {HyGy} | this is the instable |
| 18:22.29 | florian | {HyGy}: Did you lag in with hungarian language selected? |
| 18:22.30 | {HyGy} | and whatif if I make a ipkg update, ipkg upgrade |
| 18:22.43 | florian | s/lag/log |
| 18:23.03 | florian | {HyGy}: You'll update to what is in unstable feed now... |
| 18:23.03 | {HyGy} | florian the installed gpe-contacts is hungarian now |
| 18:23.08 | {HyGy} | but not all parts |
| 18:23.55 | florian | {HyGy}: Ok, then the language file is not up to date - but at least it sounds like some success :-)) |
| 18:25.00 | {HyGy} | florian My goal is simple, I translated some files, and i want to install it and use it. :) And want some stability :) |
| 18:25.18 | {HyGy} | and then i want to translate more files :) |
| 18:25.29 | {HyGy} | but all that stuff is so hard :) |
| 18:27.05 | florian | {HyGy}: Well... life isn't easy, now you know the way it works and we are working on improving package updates :-) |
| 18:28.01 | {HyGy} | florian :) I'm working as a programmer... |
| 18:28.01 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:28.07 | {HyGy} | But there is life is not so hard. :) |
| 18:31.43 | {HyGy} | (maybe except fucking VB) |
| 18:31.55 | {HyGy} | but php and c is good under linux |
| 18:32.54 | {HyGy} | florian so, how can the translated language files go to 7.2? |
| 18:34.30 | {HyGy} | and how can I try that they are enough good? |
| 18:36.32 | florian | {HyGy}: The package maintainer will upload these packages to unstable feed - from there they will go to next stable version of familiar. |
| 18:36.52 | {HyGy} | hmm, isn-t it slow? :) |
| 18:37.47 | {HyGy} | i mean, i translate a file, then wait until the next stable version, then I can check the errors, then I correct, then I send the corrections, and waiting for the next stable? |
| 18:38.08 | florian | {HyGy}: Check out which texts are not translated - write the maintainers (found by ipkgfind or in control file) if the .pot doesn't contain all texts to translate. |
| 18:38.51 | florian | {HyGy}: a reason to use unstable... it is not that unstable... only somtimes something is broken :-) |
| 18:38.58 | florian | brb, food! |
| 18:39.17 | {HyGy} | so you tell me |
| 18:39.32 | {HyGy} | make an ipkg update ipkg upgrade to unstablee? :) |
| 18:39.39 | {HyGy} | if U tell I do it :) |
| 18:40.24 | {HyGy} | florian can u make a package from gpe-calendar translation as gpe-contacts? |
| 18:40.31 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:40.49 | {HyGy} | and libgpewidget :) |
| 18:51.05 | {HyGy} | eh |
| 18:51.27 | {HyGy} | and I have not enough space again |
| 18:52.43 | {HyGy} | oh yeah |
| 18:53.06 | {HyGy} | I runned up the free space while it made an ipk update |
| 18:54.30 | {HyGy} | and I can't login now |
| 18:55.22 | florian | re |
| 18:55.24 | florian | oops |
| 18:55.33 | florian | yes, i think so... |
| 18:56.21 | {HyGy} | and now? |
| 18:56.23 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:56.38 | {HyGy} | i can login trough ssh |
| 18:57.41 | florian | Sounds bad... what does it tell you? |
| 18:57.52 | {HyGy} | nothing |
| 18:57.52 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:57.59 | {HyGy} | the login screen comes up |
| 18:58.06 | {HyGy} | I chose hygy user |
| 18:58.11 | {HyGy} | write my pass in |
| 18:58.14 | {HyGy} | then I press ok |
| 18:58.15 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:59.01 | {HyGy} | it dissapiers, then there is the X of X (mouse pointer), and then it is dissapiers, and the whole thing begin from login |
| 18:59.35 | florian | running out uof space upgrading is very bad... which package was beeing installed when you ran out of space? |
| 18:59.42 | florian | try to log in as root |
| 19:00.05 | {HyGy} | i logged in as root |
| 19:00.09 | {HyGy} | now what? |
| 19:01.16 | {HyGy} | (I have 16 mb rom and 32 MB ram, I think but not 100%, and familiar only uses 16MB of rom, and tells me there is 16MB free ramdisk) |
| 19:01.18 | {HyGy} | why is it? |
| 19:01.47 | florian | ah, great - look what you have in .xsession-errors in the users homedir. |
| 19:01.59 | {HyGy} | roots home? |
| 19:02.19 | florian | {HyGy}: nope, the user that failed at login... |
| 19:02.28 | florian | oops, phone - brb |
| 19:04.50 | {HyGy} | Xlib: extension "MIT-SCREEN-SAVER" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 19:05.11 | {HyGy} | mbdesktop: error while loading shared libraries: libmb.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:05.11 | {HyGy} | mbdock: error while loading shared libraries: libmb.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:05.11 | {HyGy} | (gpe-calendar:947): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib |
| 19:05.12 | {HyGy} | (gpe-calendar:947): Gdk-WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers |
| 19:05.46 | {HyGy} | and many: ^@ |
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| 19:23.06 | Tyg_Wrk | 'lo all |
| 19:23.19 | {HyGy} | you to |
| 19:23.30 | florian | re |
| 19:23.35 | TyggerBob | how's it goin, HyGy? |
| 19:23.54 | {HyGy} | I :) made wrong my gpe :) |
| 19:23.55 | florian | ok, i see... |
| 19:23.58 | TyggerBob | Florian: there was much rejoicing.. my 75 page second draft of my network architecture document is GONE!!!! |
| 19:24.17 | TyggerBob | HyGy: ewww. that's not so good |
| 19:24.17 | {HyGy} | I started a upgrade while I itt runs up free space |
| 19:24.32 | florian | TyggerBob: cool... let me see if it is finished :-) |
| 19:24.40 | {HyGy} | yes, not :) |
| 19:24.55 | {HyGy} | but now I saved all data from ipaq |
| 19:25.17 | florian | {HyGy}: This is what i wanted to suggest next :-) |
| 19:25.17 | TyggerBob | Nahhh.. customer will come back with another 50 pages of comments, but that's ok. |
| 19:25.34 | {HyGy} | florian okay and the next? :) |
| 19:26.01 | {HyGy} | reflash it? :) |
| 19:26.16 | florian | {HyGy}: Two options - fixing manually or reflash. |
| 19:26.20 | {HyGy} | (then it begins with language things again) |
| 19:26.42 | {HyGy} | the biggest problem is the space |
| 19:26.57 | {HyGy} | when I put opie up I have more free space :) |
| 19:27.06 | {HyGy} | but with gpe I have only 400k now |
| 19:27.12 | florian | Yes, that's true - before fixing you need some free space. |
| 19:27.22 | {HyGy} | home/hygy # df -h |
| 19:27.22 | {HyGy} | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 19:27.22 | {HyGy} | tmpfs 15.1M 64.0k 15.1M 0% /mnt/ramfs |
| 19:27.36 | {HyGy} | ok but how can I make free space |
| 19:27.36 | {HyGy} | ? |
| 19:27.40 | florian | But Opie comes withou browser... |
| 19:27.55 | {HyGy} | florian :) but I deleted dillo |
| 19:28.09 | {HyGy} | and opie have a browser too :) |
| 19:28.15 | florian | Where did your space go? |
| 19:28.18 | {HyGy} | but it need to install with hand |
| 19:28.23 | TyggerBob | ooooo. new apmd? |
| 19:28.24 | {HyGy} | Nowhere, |
| 19:28.38 | {HyGy} | after install there is about 700k free space |
| 19:29.02 | florian | I'l like to check what happens... but i don't have a 16mb ipaq to test :-/ |
| 19:29.22 | florian | ok, you removed dillo? |
| 19:29.43 | TyggerBob | Yay.. no SigSegV on the upgrade today!!! |
| 19:30.25 | {HyGy} | yes |
| 19:30.44 | {HyGy} | florian that is the basic in ipaq 3630 |
| 19:31.00 | {HyGy} | I think it have 16MB rom, and 32MB ram. |
| 19:32.06 | {HyGy} | so, I think I reflash it |
| 19:32.17 | {HyGy} | and somehow I put up, language files again |
| 19:33.43 | florian | {HyGy}: Ok, i'll help you - incuding freeing some space... :-) |
| 19:34.05 | florian | I'll play with my russian cameras in the meantime ;-) |
| 19:34.24 | {HyGy} | ok |
| 19:34.27 | TyggerBob | Russian cameras: strong like truck |
| 19:35.24 | florian | TyggerBob: Strong and heavy, but i like it... especially the Kievs :-) |
| 19:36.35 | {HyGy} | it's started uploading |
| 19:37.08 | {HyGy} | florian can i make an ipk from other things what I translated? |
| 19:37.40 | {HyGy} | florian have you found a sheet editor what can use with gpe? |
| 19:38.37 | {HyGy} | florian and that is true, opie inst install default a browser, but it can, and there is an opie-sheet, and an opie-word, and it is important I think. Therefore many people choose opie. |
| 19:39.03 | {HyGy} | and if I install the browser and opie-word, opie-sheet, I have some free space tough. |
| 19:41.07 | {HyGy} | and most of opie is speak hungarian |
| 19:43.10 | florian | {HyGy}: sure - but you'll need to check out gpe from cvs and maybe need to install a crosstoolchain. |
| 19:43.22 | florian | {HyGy}: no, not so far... |
| 19:44.21 | florian | {HyGy}: right, that's true - looks like we need more developers... they had two years in advance before we started. |
| 19:44.42 | {HyGy} | ok |
| 19:44.42 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 19:44.49 | florian | And even two more years for translations... |
| 19:45.05 | {HyGy} | how can i get the matcbox from cvs? |
| 19:45.35 | {HyGy} | I set cvsroot |
| 19:45.43 | {HyGy} | and cvs user |
| 19:45.49 | {HyGy} | cvs co what? |
| 19:46.01 | {HyGy} | and what developer you need? |
| 19:46.24 | florian | we have mostly complete translations to french, romanian, swedish, portuguese, czech and german i think |
| 19:46.55 | florian | cvs/apps, the module is matchbox |
| 19:47.13 | florian | anonymous, anonymous iirc |
| 19:47.54 | {HyGy} | and what is the username and pass? |
| 19:49.02 | florian | ah no... both "anoncvs" |
| 19:49.21 | {HyGy} | {HyGy}:/home/hygy/work/ipaq# declare -x CVSROOT="anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs" |
| 19:49.22 | {HyGy} | {HyGy}:/home/hygy/work/ipaq# cvs co cvs/apps/matchbox |
| 19:49.22 | {HyGy} | anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org's password: |
| 19:49.22 | {HyGy} | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 19:51.21 | florian | you need to have ":pserver:anoncvs@..." |
| 19:51.28 | florian | then "cvs login" |
| 19:51.50 | {HyGy} | ok I mostly use ssh |
| 19:51.54 | florian | and then "cvs co apps/matchbox" |
| 19:52.16 | florian | This is better - but only works with an account imho. |
| 19:53.05 | {HyGy} | yes ssh auth is need an account |
| 19:56.22 | {HyGy} | hygy@hygy:~/work/ipaq$ cvs co apps/matchbox |
| 19:56.26 | {HyGy} | cvs server: warning: cannot write to history file /cvs/CVSROOT/history: Permission denied |
| 19:56.26 | {HyGy} | cvs server: Updating apps/matchbox |
| 19:56.26 | {HyGy} | U apps/matchbox/.cvsignore |
| 19:56.26 | {HyGy} | U apps/matchbox/AUTHORS |
| 19:56.26 | {HyGy} | U apps/matchbox/BUILDING.howto |
| 20:02.08 | {HyGy} | okay ready |
| 20:02.51 | {HyGy} | who is the matchbox maintainter? |
| 20:03.29 | treke | :) |
| 20:03.57 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:03.59 | {HyGy} | oh |
| 20:04.17 | florian | :-) mallum |
| 20:04.33 | {HyGy} | :) okay but in authors file there is no nickname :) |
| 20:04.42 | {HyGy} | mallum where are U? |
| 20:05.00 | {HyGy} | florian do U remember where is the files what I need to translate? |
| 20:05.21 | {HyGy} | florian I installed gpe :) |
| 20:06.51 | florian | {HyGy}: You mean to get support for another language? |
| 20:07.13 | florian | This was locale-base-hu+hu. |
| 20:07.36 | {HyGy} | no :) |
| 20:07.47 | {HyGy} | i mean, translate matchbox files |
| 20:07.53 | {HyGy} | mallum tells me but I forget it |
| 20:07.55 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:08.01 | {HyGy} | but the another question is |
| 20:08.09 | {HyGy} | there is a virgin installed gpe |
| 20:11.21 | {HyGy} | whow |
| 20:11.27 | {HyGy} | now is 1.9MB free space |
| 20:11.39 | {HyGy} | hygy@hygy:~/work/ipaq$ ssh root@192.168.2.2 |
| 20:11.39 | {HyGy} | root@192.168.2.2's password: |
| 20:11.39 | {HyGy} | ~ # df -h |
| 20:11.40 | {HyGy} | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 20:11.40 | {HyGy} | tmpfs 15.1M 48.0k 15.1M 0% /mnt/ramfs |
| 20:11.40 | {HyGy} | ~ # |
| 20:12.01 | {HyGy} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.45 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg list | grep hu |
| 20:17.47 | {HyGy} | gaim-lang-hu - HU localization for Gaim |
| 20:17.47 | {HyGy} | gpe-ownerinfo-hu - Translation into hu for gpe-ownerinfo. |
| 20:17.47 | {HyGy} | gtk-locale-hu - The GdkPixBuf library: hu locale |
| 20:18.42 | florian | {HyGy}: To free space remove e.g. dillo, games and if you don't use it mbmerlin. |
| 20:19.33 | {HyGy} | what is mbmerlin? |
| 20:20.13 | florian | {HyGy}: This package is in unstable feed, so if you wan't to stay stable it might be a good idea to download the packages from unstable manually and install it from /tmp on your iPAQ. |
| 20:20.56 | florian | The character recognition (may be used instead of the on-screen keyboard. |
| 20:21.36 | {HyGy} | aha |
| 20:22.09 | {HyGy} | sow how can I make the things speak hu? |
| 20:22.10 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:22.16 | {HyGy} | the correct way.. |
| 20:25.54 | florian | {HyGy}: With unstable or without? |
| 20:26.06 | {HyGy} | what do you think what is better? |
| 20:26.18 | {HyGy} | I use instable from debian on my deskto |
| 20:26.18 | {HyGy} | p |
| 20:26.21 | {HyGy} | (sarge) |
| 20:27.11 | florian | {HyGy}: If you want to work with new packages use unstable, but sometimes there are some bad packages in it :-) |
| 20:27.24 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:27.32 | {HyGy} | ok try unstable |
| 20:27.33 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:27.34 | {HyGy} | how? |
| 20:27.35 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:27.45 | florian | {HyGy}: I'd suggest to free as much space as possible before updating. |
| 20:27.54 | {HyGy} | hmm |
| 20:28.03 | {HyGy} | what can i remove? |
| 20:28.21 | {HyGy} | dev/root 15.8M 13.8M 2.0M 87% / |
| 20:28.51 | {HyGy} | florian (the last turn, I put on vim (i like it), and less |
| 20:29.53 | *** join/#gpe mallum (~mallum@82-35-112-58.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:30.03 | {HyGy} | mallum hi! |
| 20:30.07 | florian | {HyGy}: How large is vim? |
| 20:30.17 | {HyGy} | mallum what did U tell me? |
| 20:30.32 | {HyGy} | florian I dont know exactly about 700k? |
| 20:30.37 | {HyGy} | but I'm not sure |
| 20:30.53 | {HyGy} | mallum where is the matchbox files what I need to translate? |
| 20:30.55 | {HyGy} | in cv |
| 20:30.55 | {HyGy} | s |
| 20:30.58 | florian | {HyGy}: I remember some suggestions some minutes ago... don't yoU?! |
| 20:31.16 | {HyGy} | florian but more? |
| 20:31.31 | florian | 700k is much :-/ there is a small vi in busybox.... |
| 20:31.35 | mallum | {HyGy}: I've told you like 3 times |
| 20:31.43 | mallum | {HyGy}: in the last 3 days |
| 20:31.48 | {HyGy} | mallum I know, I'm sorry |
| 20:31.56 | {HyGy} | but I always lost the paper |
| 20:31.56 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 20:31.58 | mallum | {HyGy}: in data/vfolders |
| 20:32.04 | florian | hi mallum |
| 20:32.11 | {HyGy} | But now I downloaded matchbox from cvs |
| 20:32.13 | florian | *g* |
| 20:32.20 | mallum | {HyGy}: in matchbox source, grab it from CVS under apps/matchbox |
| 20:32.35 | mallum | {HyGy}: cool |
| 20:32.38 | mallum | hey florian |
| 20:32.42 | {HyGy} | mallum thx |
| 20:32.44 | florian | {HyGy}: What did you remove? |
| 20:33.40 | {HyGy} | there is some hunarian translated things in it |
| 20:34.28 | {HyGy} | florian dillo games |
| 20:35.45 | {HyGy} | but dillo isint make much space |
| 20:36.21 | {HyGy} | florian can I use ramdisk to downlad under upgrade? |
| 20:36.53 | florian | {HyGy}: It will be used automatically. |
| 20:37.17 | {HyGy} | dev/root 15.8M 13.8M 2.0M 87% / |
| 20:37.17 | {HyGy} | tmpfs 15.1M 96.0k 15.0M 1% /mnt/ramfs |
| 20:37.22 | {HyGy} | is it enough? |
| 20:38.04 | florian | i'm not sure,,, tigert would know ;-) |
| 20:38.16 | florian | what about mbmerlin? |
| 20:38.22 | {HyGy} | there is stg what I dont understand I removed dillo but I can start it on ipaq |
| 20:38.32 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg remove dillo |
| 20:38.33 | {HyGy} | Package dillo is not installed. |
| 20:39.27 | florian | uh? |
| 20:40.10 | florian | ah, try "dillo2" |
| 20:40.49 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg remove dillo2 |
| 20:40.50 | {HyGy} | Package dillo2 is depended upon by packages: |
| 20:40.50 | {HyGy} | gpe-task-comm |
| 20:42.12 | florian | ok, remove both :-) |
| 20:43.09 | {HyGy} | I dont belive it |
| 20:43.30 | {HyGy} | oh I need to run twice |
| 20:43.33 | {HyGy} | but removed |
| 20:44.13 | {HyGy} | uha what a big difference, before remove I have 2.0MB free and after 2.1MB free |
| 20:44.50 | florian | hmm... impossible... did /usr/bin/dillo really disappear? |
| 20:45.06 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg remove dillo2 gpe-task-comm |
| 20:45.09 | {HyGy} | Package dillo2 is not installed. |
| 20:45.09 | {HyGy} | Package gpe-task-comm is not installed. |
| 20:45.34 | {HyGy} | diff dirname |
| 20:45.41 | {HyGy} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.42 | {HyGy} | diff dirname |
| 20:46.43 | {HyGy} | yes /usr/bin/dillo dissappierd and the icon from destop is dissapiered to |
| 20:47.03 | florian | hmm.. this was 230k |
| 20:47.17 | florian | strange |
| 20:47.44 | {HyGy} | so what then? :) |
| 20:48.00 | {HyGy} | I removed dillo2, dillo, gpe-task-games |
| 20:48.01 | florian | mbmerlin? |
| 20:48.09 | florian | eeks, i see...# |
| 20:48.38 | florian | you won'r remove the games removing the tak package... |
| 20:48.48 | {HyGy} | I know now :0 |
| 20:48.53 | {HyGy} | they ar runing |
| 20:59.26 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 21:00.55 | {HyGy} | now I have 2.4MB free space |
| 21:01.26 | florian | better... |
| 21:01.30 | {HyGy} | now 2.6 |
| 21:01.37 | {HyGy} | prismstumbler |
| 21:01.40 | *** join/#gpe pb_ (~pb@2002:5160:45ef:0:20a:95ff:fe76:cd6c) |
| 21:01.40 | {HyGy} | it is 200k |
| 21:01.55 | mallum | hey pb_ |
| 21:02.01 | florian | ok... gpe-aerial |
| 21:02.07 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 21:02.14 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 21:02.17 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 21:02.55 | {HyGy} | ~ # ipkg remove gpe-aerial |
| 21:02.58 | {HyGy} | Package gpe-aerial is not installed. |
| 21:04.26 | {HyGy} | ok 2.7MB now |
| 21:04.30 | {HyGy} | thats all |
| 21:04.40 | {HyGy} | I removed anything what I dont need |
| 21:04.41 | florian | should be enough |
| 21:05.20 | {HyGy} | now what? :) |
| 21:06.39 | florian | add unstable feed ti ipkg conf and update/upgrade |
| 21:07.07 | {HyGy} | what is the url? |
| 21:07.42 | {HyGy} | vi /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 21:09.38 | florian | http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/ |
| 21:13.12 | {HyGy} | and what is the name filed? |
| 21:13.17 | {HyGy} | <src-name> |
| 21:14.36 | {HyGy} | unstable? |
| 21:15.16 | *** join/#gpe nelson (~nelson@desk.crynwr.com) |
| 21:15.44 | nelson | florian: I saw that library, but ... there's two. Which one is superfluous? |
| 21:15.51 | florian | yep |
| 21:16.03 | {HyGy} | src unstable http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/ |
| 21:16.07 | {HyGy} | is this good? |
| 21:16.19 | florian | nelson: i think both... maybe pb_ knows exactly. |
| 21:16.35 | florian | yep |
| 21:16.45 | mallum | pb_: any news on the arm libc ? |
| 21:16.52 | nelson | pb_, paging pb_. |
| 21:16.53 | pb_ | mallum: sorry, no news |
| 21:16.59 | pb_ | nelson: at your service |
| 21:17.00 | treke | mallum: flashing the kernel |
| 21:17.13 | mallum | treke: ah cool :-) |
| 21:17.22 | mallum | treke: you have cf cards then |
| 21:17.23 | nelson | pb_: do we need both libgnome-vfs0_1.0.5-1_arm.ipk and libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_arm.ipk |
| 21:17.29 | treke | Yeah. I have plenty |
| 21:17.38 | mallum | treke: bitch |
| 21:17.39 | mallum | ;-) |
| 21:17.48 | pb_ | nelson: I think so, but I'm not certain. |
| 21:18.06 | nelson | pb_: yes, indeed, there seems to be a certain amount of uncertainty there. |
| 21:18.11 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:18.15 | pb_ | is one of them causing you a problem? |
| 21:18.21 | nelson | hell no, not me. |
| 21:18.29 | nelson | florian reported that somebody else said they weren't needed. |
| 21:18.34 | pb_ | ah |
| 21:18.37 | nelson | I'm like "I'm clueless". |
| 21:19.06 | pb_ | Seems that you're in good company. |
| 21:19.35 | nelson | Actually, I'm not clueless. I have a Clue. I keep it in a box. It's a pink button that says "Clue" on it. |
| 21:19.52 | nelson | "Boots" was giving them out to various clueful people at Interop six or seven years ago. |
| 21:20.12 | nelson | So, I officially have a Clue. |
| 21:20.26 | pb_ | Aha. |
| 21:20.51 | florian | someone tried to install gpe step by step onto a pypaq image... but who was it?! |
| 21:21.12 | nelson | yow. I hope he was doing it for pleasure. |
| 21:21.31 | nelson | It would be much less painful to iinstall python-gtk over gpe. |
| 21:21.36 | florian | he ran into trouble with this because there was a newer package providing the same |
| 21:21.38 | treke | cool kernel is flashed. no clue what to do though :) |
| 21:21.51 | nelson | Boot! Boot! Ok! |
| 21:21.59 | mallum | treke: want me to hack a quick c app to call that ioctl ? |
| 21:22.01 | pb_ | florian: sounds bizarre. well, I guess whatever is installed in bootgpe2 is the right thing. |
| 21:22.16 | treke | sure. |
| 21:22.23 | treke | /proc/rotation seems to do nothing |
| 21:22.25 | mallum | okey 2 secs |
| 21:26.04 | {HyGy} | florian I think it is finished with upgrade |
| 21:29.30 | florian | {HyGy}: how much space free? |
| 21:29.38 | florian | {HyGy}: install locale base |
| 21:29.41 | {HyGy} | 1.9 |
| 21:29.51 | florian | pb_: let's forget this :-) |
| 21:29.56 | {HyGy} | florian i'v installed it |
| 21:30.13 | {HyGy} | and there is 1.9 free |
| 21:30.29 | {HyGy} | etc # ipkg install gpe-ownerinfo-hu |
| 21:30.29 | {HyGy} | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-ownerinfo-hu: |
| 21:30.30 | {HyGy} | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.31 | florian | {HyGy}: then get the contacts package from my dir and install this |
| 21:30.56 | florian | pb_: a bug in contacts? |
| 21:31.09 | florian | {HyGy}: -force-depends |
| 21:33.24 | {HyGy} | florian okay it's up and working |
| 21:33.31 | florian | great |
| 21:33.41 | {HyGy} | but there is some english word in :) |
| 21:34.19 | {HyGy} | florian can U make gpe-calendar libgpewidget-0.56.hu.po.gz |
| 21:34.21 | {HyGy} | gpe-login-0.60.hu.po.gz |
| 21:34.22 | {HyGy} | to? |
| 21:35.09 | florian | i'll try |
| 21:35.45 | {HyGy} | florian and how long is when translated po will be an ipkg in instable feed? |
| 21:35.50 | {HyGy} | thx |
| 21:36.46 | {HyGy} | florian U try it now or later? |
| 21:37.23 | {HyGy} | If later then I disconnect my modem. (The phone bill will be big.) |
| 21:38.03 | florian | {HyGy}: it will need some time... |
| 21:38.20 | florian | {HyGy}: depends to the maintainer |
| 21:38.36 | {HyGy} | florian okay, I disconnect. But thank you very much to all your help. |
| 21:38.54 | {HyGy} | florian but about. a week? or a day? |
| 21:41.47 | florian | {HyGy}: usually new translations come with a new package... that means fast if there is much development and quite slow for a not that good maintained package |
| 21:42.42 | {HyGy} | aha |
| 21:42.43 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 21:42.49 | {HyGy} | now I sent a translation again |
| 21:42.55 | {HyGy} | so I disconnect |
| 21:43.01 | {HyGy} | thanks |
| 21:43.04 | florian | ok, cu |
| 21:43.39 | {HyGy} | bye |
| 21:45.28 | treke | mallum: what file should I call the ioctol on? |
| 21:52.34 | treke | mallum: the ioctl doesnt seem to do anything |
| 21:53.41 | mallum | treke: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/rotate.c |
| 21:54.05 | mallum | treke: /dev/tty or /dev/fb I would guess |
| 21:58.42 | treke | mallum: it works |
| 22:00.00 | mallum | treke: rock and roll :-) |
| 22:00.06 | mallum | X faster ? |
| 22:03.42 | florian | yay, we have hungarian packages for libgpewidget and gpe-calendar |
| 22:04.55 | pb_ | florian: rock! |
| 22:06.29 | mallum | treke: what /dev entry was it btw ? |
| 22:06.37 | treke | fb orked |
| 22:07.02 | mallum | ah cool, the console_fd was a little misleading |
| 22:07.14 | mallum | treke: have you tried X ? |
| 22:10.11 | treke | not yet |
| 22:10.17 | treke | I didnt try /dev/tty |
| 22:11.37 | mallum | damn I wish I could find a cf card :/ |
| 22:19.19 | treke | mallum: Now pester someone to add this into x :p |
| 22:19.47 | mallum | treke: I can do that |
| 22:20.24 | mallum | treke: we can make it swtch to 320x240 too |
| 22:20.39 | treke | yup |
| 22:21.13 | mallum | treke: need a standard interface to this kind of stuff with |
| 22:22.43 | mallum | treke: need to get minimo into oe, that'll be fun |
| 22:40.45 | mallum | treke: hehe, my wife founf my a CF card :-)) |
| 22:41.27 | treke | cool |
| 22:48.11 | mallum | treke: you have a binary of that rotate.c ? |
| 22:50.20 | mallum | treke: is mickel doing some qt stuff with X ? |
| 22:54.57 | treke | I do |
| 22:56.12 | mallum | cool |
| 22:56.23 | treke | no. i didnt mean I do |
| 22:56.29 | treke | I meant I don't know |
| 22:56.30 | treke | :) |
| 22:56.36 | mallum | oh, just saw a cvs log on #hh.org |
| 22:58.21 | treke | mallum: feel free to make a new x image :) |
| 22:58.50 | mallum | treke: yeah I should start hacking on the oe one |
| 22:59.05 | mallum | treke: did you make it make ipkgs ? |
| 23:02.54 | mallum | treke: arg I flashed my new image a kernel is still segv'ing |
| 23:03.12 | mallum | treke: maybe it has old pcmcis still |
| 23:07.02 | florian | night |
| 23:07.11 | pb_ | florian: night |