IRC log for #gooseproject on 20121220

00:30.54*** join/#gooseproject Nafai (~nafai@174-126-77-168.cpe.cableone.net)
00:35.54shalkieHey Nafai!
00:36.00NafaiHi shalkie!
00:36.19herloNafai: !! merry holidays
00:36.30herloalso wishes happy holidays to the GoOSe crew!
01:28.21shalkieWell my evening devolved to to watching Manuel the Moose read twitter.
01:28.59NafaiI have no idea who that is :)
01:29.10shalkiemoose.torchbox.com
01:29.19shalkieIt is powered by a RaspberryPI
01:29.52Nafainice
01:30.23shalkieAlright, I have to get some food. I know the meeting is suppose to start now.
01:30.38shalkieIN fac I will do an announcement through the moose.
01:30.48shalkies/IN fac/In fact/
01:34.43shalkieAnd the MoOSe stays silent...
01:34.46shalkieWell that sucks.
01:35.29shalkieRight, I am off for food.
01:35.35shalkieWill be back shortly.
01:37.06shalkieping goozbach herlo : Feel free to start w/out me.
02:20.04herloapologizes for being late
02:20.08herloshalkie: haha
02:20.15herloI texted you first! :)
02:20.47herloshalkie: the meeting starts at 7pm MT (9pm ET) nowadays
02:21.07herlogoozbach: ping
02:36.38*** join/#gooseproject makfinsky (~imak@fedora/makfinsky)
02:37.29herlohmm, nobody seems to be around.
02:38.34makfinskyJust got in.
02:38.57herlomakfinsky: w00t!
02:39.15herlo#startmeeting Weekly GoOSe meeting (2012-12-19)
02:39.15goosebotMeeting started Thu Dec 20 02:39:14 2012 UTC.  The chair is herlo. Information about MeetBot at http://gooseproject.org/2011/11/07/weekly-meetings.html.
02:39.15goosebotUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
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02:39.19herlo#topic roll call
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02:39.23herlois here
02:39.43makfinskyis here.
02:40.09herlohi makfinsky
02:40.35herlo#topic testing, testing, testing -- Let's test RC4
02:40.35*** topic/#gooseproject by goosebot -> testing, testing, testing -- Let's test RC4 (Meeting topic: Weekly GoOSe meeting (2012-12-19))
02:40.38makfinskyHola herlo.
02:40.50herlomakfinsky: have you downloaded the iso(s) yet?
02:41.17makfinskyI think so... let me double check
02:41.30herlok, sha256sums should help verify
02:41.58makfinskyHmm... nope... dangit.
02:42.05makfinskyWill download now.
02:42.21herlok, no problem
02:42.27herlogets the tests ready
02:42.59goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #1663 (NEW REPO: python-rhsm) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1663>
02:43.06herloalso closing tickets
02:44.31goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #805 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-as-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/805>
02:44.37goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #806 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-bn-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/806>
02:44.44goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #807 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-de-DE) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/807>
02:44.54makfinskyherlo: Where's the d/l link?
02:44.57goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #808 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-en-US) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/808>
02:45.00makfinskyOur web site is a bit dated...
02:45.01herlomakfinsky: /topic
02:45.10herlomakfinsky: yes, I am aware
02:45.14shalkieWow, I just can't get with the schedule then.
02:45.15herlowants to move it to a wiki
02:45.19shalkieherlo: Saw the text.
02:45.24herloshalkie: welcome back
02:45.31shalkieThanks.
02:45.39goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #809 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-es-ES) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/809>
02:45.50herlomakfinsky: shalkie: feel free to work on the website over the holiday. :)
02:45.52makfinskyherlo: The topic when I joined had get.fedoraproject.org in it.
02:46.04herloit did?
02:46.08herlohmm
02:46.12herloget.gooseproject.org
02:46.15herlonot fp.o
02:46.30herlowonders if makfinsky misread it or if herlo mistyped it
02:46.52goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #810 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-fr-FR) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/810>
02:46.55goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #811 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-gu-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/811>
02:47.00goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #812 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-hi-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/812>
02:47.04goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #813 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-it-IT) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/813>
02:47.19goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #814 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-ja-JP) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/814>
02:47.29goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #815 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-kn-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/815>
02:47.32goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #816 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-ko-KR) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/816>
02:47.39goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #817 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-ml-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/817>
02:47.44goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #818 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-mr-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/818>
02:47.52goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #819 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-or-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/819>
02:47.53makfinskyD/L'ing now.
02:47.54goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #820 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-pa-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/820>
02:47.59goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #821 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-pt-BR) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/821>
02:48.01herlomakfinsky: okay
02:48.10goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #822 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-ru-RU) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/822>
02:48.14goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #823 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-si-LK) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/823>
02:48.18goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #824 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-ta-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/824>
02:48.23goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #825 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-te-IN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/825>
02:48.28herlohates docs now :/
02:48.34goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #826 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-zh-CN) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/826>
02:48.39goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #827 (NEW REPO: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Release_Notes-6-zh-TW) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/827>
02:50.47goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #1338 (NEW REPO: hunspell-nl) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1338>
02:51.04herloshalkie: do you have the DVD downloaded?
02:51.22shalkieI do not.
02:51.25goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #1524 (NEW REPO: gtkhtml3) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1524>
02:51.42shalkieAnd since the filesystem I was going to put it on has been going through fsck all day...
02:51.48shalkieWell I am not a happy camper about it.
02:52.02shalkieThat aside, short answer is no.
02:52.14goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #1566 (NEW REPO: iwl6000g2a-firmware) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1566>
02:52.19shalkieWhat was the idea? Did we want to try a VM install?
02:52.36herloshalkie: I thought you sent out the link I gave you
02:52.43herlothe link with all the tests on it
02:52.55shalkiedoesn't recall the link.
02:53.13herloshalkie: yeah, I just noticed you didn't put it in the mail
02:53.40herloshalkie: two days ago: 14:35 < herlo> shalkie: this can help http://sexysexypenguins.com/2012/10/20/goose-linux-6-beta-release-candidate-3-rc3-available-now/
02:54.05herlothere are links there to the fedora testing stuff as we did with RC3
02:54.20herloit hasn't really changed. We have to test again since we're on RC4 now
02:55.01goosebotIssue CLOSED - gooseproject/main: #1628 (NEW REPO: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-Coverage) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1628>
02:57.29herloshalkie: ??
02:58.05shalkieHerlo: ??
02:58.57herloshalkie: did you not see my comments above?
02:59.03herloI'm pointing out what you need
02:59.13herlobut I got no response, wanted to make sure you saw them
03:00.13shalkieI did.
03:00.16shalkieI saw it.
03:00.19shalkieSorry.
03:00.24shalkieI can't
03:00.27shalkieplace more
03:00.29shalkiethen two
03:00.30makfinskyherlo: You hate docs now huh?
03:00.31shalkiewords per
03:00.34shalkieline tonight.
03:00.36shalkie:-)
03:00.57herlomakfinsky: lol
03:01.05herloshalkie: I see that
03:01.29herlomakfinsky: I don't hate docs, just think that it's somethign we can wait on for 6.1b (or never) :D
03:01.47makfinskyLOL
03:01.52makfinskyI hate docs too.
03:02.07herlomakfinsky: docs are useful, I don't hate them. I hate *writing* them.
03:02.10makfinskyI am so looking forward to going home tomorrow and taking a few weeks off.
03:02.19herlomakfinsky: ooh, more time for goose! :)
03:02.39makfinskyAh, yes. Likewise. I hate writing them as well. I do appreciate having them when I'm trying to get things done.
03:03.22makfinskySeems this project I am working on could use a break so that everyone could get some time to read some docs. We bang our head until someone opens and reads the docs. Most often that someone is me.
03:03.34makfinskyIndeed, more time for goose!
03:03.46herloyay!
03:03.57herloyay for good docs and yay for goose!
03:04.19herlonotes if we can get the testing done for this, we can release RC4 as the Golden GoOSe (fingers crossed) on Christmas Day!
03:04.52makfinskyHmm, the dvd download is going to take a looong time.
03:05.03herlomakfinsky: I blame your colo's bandwidth :)
03:05.04makfinskyTrying the netinstall iso now.
03:05.13makfinskyI'm in a hotel...
03:05.17makfinskyBottleneck is here.
03:05.27herloahh, okay
03:05.34makfinskyI agree on the golden realease.
03:05.47makfinsky/realease/release/
03:05.47herlok, I'm going to start making tickets
03:07.04shalkieWhy do hotels have to have aweful bandwidth?
03:07.08shalkieThere just isn't a reason for it.
03:07.32herloshalkie: they buy the cheapest plan and share it among 200-300 rooms. There definitely is a reason for it
03:07.50herlothere isn't however, a *need* for that.
03:08.30makfinskyThe reason for even offering wifi is marketing. Which means it's just not essential to the hotel operations.
03:08.47herloindeed
03:09.31makfinskyApprox 20 mins and I'll be starting on the netinstall.
03:09.37herlonice
03:09.52shalkieI usually chalk it up to bad layout of the wifi more then anything.
03:10.01makfinskyLOL
03:10.30shalkieI hunt for a RJ45 jack each time. I have found that I can get much better speeds over the copper.
03:10.31makfinskyLayout of the wifi? I doubt many hotels hire companies that have a clue about that to begin with.
03:10.46shalkiesighs
03:10.57shalkieI know your right. I just dream though...
03:12.14herloshalkie: it's 'than', never 'then' when comparing
03:12.24herlodislikes that grammatical error
03:12.45herloif this, then that. rather this than that. :)
03:12.52shalkieacknowledges the correction...
03:12.57herlohehe
03:17.14makfinskyDelta isos?? Holy crap... I have been out of the loop for too long.
03:17.35makfinskyIn case you're wondering, that's the from the F18 install test page.
03:17.42herloyes, I know :)
03:17.58herlowas just looking there actually. I'm trying to build a wiki page based upon it righ tnow
03:21.01herlohttps://github.com/gooseproject/main/wiki/testing-releases
03:22.47herlomakfinsky ^^ shalkie
03:23.04herloworking on filling in the links, if you guys wanna help
03:35.40herlookay, time for open floor
03:35.46herlo#topic Open Floor
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03:35.58herloshalkie: makfinsky: got anything to discuss?
03:36.15herlois still working on tests, but should have something this weekend and will email about it.
03:36.23herlocan anyone else work on testing this weekend?
03:36.40makfinskyI need to review the happenings over the last few months as I've been out of it.
03:37.10makfinskyI am hoping to work on further testing tomorrow on the flight home.
03:38.23herlomakfinsky: there's plenty to do. I'll try to make tickets for it tonight/tomorrow
03:38.38herlomakfinsky: installation tests should be doable on the plane too :)
03:38.42makfinskyThough, I did get first class upgrades for both segments... so the testing might be a bit interesting...
03:39.10shalkiemakfinsky: Nice. :-)
03:39.28shalkieIf it is Delta most of the planes have power in First Class these days.
03:39.48shalkieThree Prong 120V Happiness.
03:40.48shalkieTesting this weekend... Hmmm... I am trying to come up with a vacation plan. I will try and fit something in though.
03:40.53herlomakfinsky: lol, drunk testing is fine with me
03:41.00herloas long as you are coherent in your results
03:41.16herloshalkie: they do? Where?
03:41.18shalkieOh... I hadn't considered the free booze.
03:41.33herlohasn't seen power in a long time
03:42.11shalkieUsually at the bottom of the middle arm rest. Just follow the surface down towards the floor.
03:42.52shalkiewouldn't mind a coffee w/ baileys.
03:43.09makfinskyherlo: Indeed,many flights have power in 1st class.
03:43.24makfinskyIt's in the console between the seats, around the knees areas.
03:43.32makfinsky/areas/area/
03:44.26herlohmm
03:44.44herloI wonder if the crj's have them. I've been flying those a lot lately.
03:45.04herlothat's what I'm flying to MCI next month
03:45.36makfinskyI think I may be flying one tomorrow from ATL to IAD. I'll let you know.
03:45.42shalkieSeat Guru should say.
03:46.05shalkieBut I don't think most of them do. I am willing to say know if it is a "Delta Connection".
03:46.31herlothat is awesome!
03:46.40herloyou can use mediawiki syntax on github now for wiki pages
03:46.56herloshalkie: say know?
03:47.06herlothinks shalkie needs sleep again :)
03:47.11makfinskyRocking - netinst image passes it's media test.
03:47.31shalkies/know/no/
03:48.00shalkiePossibly.
03:48.16shalkieI do feel tired and a little on the uneasy side of life.
03:49.22herlomakfinsky: great!
03:50.36makfinskyHmm, dammit. I need to learn wiki syntax.
03:53.25herlookay, time to call it, one minute
03:53.55makfinskyherlo: Quick question
03:54.36makfinskyAm I mistaken or should the netinstall boot into the url install source or do I have to configure that?
03:55.18herlohttps://github.com/gooseproject/main/wiki/Installation-tests
03:55.55herlonetinstall should boot to a screen where you can put the url install source, but I think it does stage 1 first, like keyboard and language
03:55.59herlomakfinsky: ^^
03:56.42makfinskyOk, yeah, so I have to enter the install url.
03:56.50herloyes
03:57.18herloyou can use http://koji.gooselinux.org/releases/6Server/Everything/x86_64/os/
03:57.23herloI think that works
03:57.30makfinskyI'll give it a shot.
03:57.39herloor it might be http://koji.gooselinux.org/releases/6Server/GoOSe/x86_64/os/
03:57.44herloone of those should work
03:57.54herloends meeting now
03:57.57herlo#endmeeting
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03:58.01goosebotsending meeting email
04:00.34herlothanks all for coming
04:00.58shalkieEh.
04:01.04shalkieI am still fighting with AWS.
04:02.56makfinskyherlo: The Everything link doesn't work. It's missing the images dir.
04:07.18herloyeah, probably the GoOSe dir then
04:08.02herlomakfinsky: ^^
04:08.08makfinskyYeah, that one works.
04:08.12makfinsky:-D
04:08.27herlomakfinsky: so you said which test passed?
04:09.15herloahh, netinst image passes it's media test.
04:10.02herlomakfinsky: so this test passed? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Boot_Methods_Boot_Iso
04:10.40makfinskyYes, that's working now.
04:10.45herlok, thanks
04:10.50makfinskyWell, it works for sure.
04:11.13herlox86_64?
04:11.36makfinskyYes.
04:11.50herlogreat!
04:13.05makfinskyGoOSe gravy.... the install.img is freaking huge.
04:13.24herlomakfinsky: https://github.com/gooseproject/main/wiki/Installation-tests
04:13.41herlomakfinsky: lol, yeah, quite big
04:13.57herlomakfinsky: does that link look good to you and make sense?
04:14.54makfinskyYeah, looks good to me.
04:15.09herlomakfinsky: reload
04:15.13herloI think that's clearer
04:15.48makfinskyAh, nice!
04:18.10herloand I just realized it says the version on the left. We're a bit behind on tests, so these will be done when we can get them, but we're actually testing final.
04:20.39herlos/version/stage/
04:21.16herlomakfinsky: noooo!
04:21.34makfinsky?
04:21.53herloyou edited the wiki while I was doing it too
04:22.01makfinskyHeh, doh!
04:22.15makfinskyOverwrite my edits.
04:22.16shalkieSo herlo, the ones that just say closed and then the ticket number in the notes, is that because a repo was created?
04:22.16herlooh, nice! github is smart about it
04:22.32herloshalkie: not sure what context you are talking about
04:22.34herlogive me an example
04:23.22shalkieDate: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:55:02 -0800
04:23.24shalkieMime-Version: 1.0
04:23.26shalkieContent-Type: text/plain;
04:23.29shalkie<PROTECTED>
04:23.30shalkieContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
04:23.32shalkieContent-ID: <50d27e0637bed_3aae1042a6c724f@fe2.rs.github.com.mail>
04:23.34shalkieClosed #1628.
04:23.36shalkie---
04:23.38shalkieReply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:
04:23.41shalkiehttps://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1628
04:23.42shalkieSorry, that was a bit spammy.
04:23.44shalkieBut that is the boddy of the mail.
04:23.46shalkieOthers had notes like created repo.
04:24.57herloshalkie: an email?
04:25.11herloclick the link, it'll tell you
04:26.35shalkieYep, I get emailed for the issues by github. You sent me a fair amount of email this evening. :-p
04:27.21shalkieOh, my bad. They sent one with the updated comment and then a second email notifing the closure of the ticket.
04:27.27shalkieThat seems a bit crappy.
04:27.36herloshalkie: you have these filtered, right?
04:27.50shalkieIt would be nice if it was digested.
04:27.51herlomakfinsky: okay, if you did some changes to that wiki page, can you verify they are still there?
04:27.54shalkieherlo: I don't.
04:28.00herloshalkie: you should filter them
04:28.09herloput them in the 'goose' folder or label
04:28.55herlooh, I need to spin lives!
04:29.01makfinskyherlo: Looks like they're still there.
04:29.03shalkieYes, you do...
04:29.07herlomakfinsky: cool
04:29.36herlomakfinsky: shalkie: if you modify the wiki page again, just let me know before you do it, so I can save.
04:29.51makfinskyWill do.
04:30.12shalkieAssuming my memory isn't faulty.. Yep.
04:30.14shalkie:-)
04:31.30shalkierolls eyes at the AWS AMI image...
04:31.47shalkieI have to use sudo -i to change to root... So Ubuntu...
04:32.02shalkieAlright, time to start working on my koji setup.
04:33.15herloshalkie: that's a good thing, you know.
04:33.23herlosudo -i, that is
04:33.25shalkieWhat the use of sudo -i?
04:33.29shalkieEh.
04:33.30herlothe koji setup isn't bad either :)
04:33.39shalkieI would just assume use su - and have wheel setup.
04:34.11herloshalkie: you can do the same thing with sudo and it's logged better (though sudo -i isn't really much different)
04:34.40shalkieI am just whining that they put in an Ubuntu style feature on a RHEL based image.
04:36.09herloshalkie: I immediately setup my rhel systems like that, so I wouldn't say it's Ubuntu style, but rather good sysadmin style :)
04:37.06shalkieEh, I don't know that there is any benefit if a password isn't required either way.
04:38.02herloshalkie: sure there is
04:38.26herlowith sudo, you *could* limit the services which are run wihtout a password
04:38.51makfinskyOk, time for sleep for me...
04:38.51herlos/htout/thout/
04:38.56makfinskyG'night all.
04:39.01herlomakfinsky: GoOSe nighty-night.
04:39.02shalkieNight makfinsky.
04:39.07herlo:)
04:39.20shalkieherlo: True... Except since I have sudo -i, is it really effective?
04:40.00shalkieI certainly won't argue with you about sudo being more fine grained on the control side.
04:40.54shalkieIt is a stylistic choice. I know the pros and cons for both utilities. *shrug*
04:41.25herloshalkie: well, so I kind of go for the sudo for a very specific reason
04:42.19herlolater on, when I have to configure a box that will go into production, I perform the same task I've done on any box. It makes it way simpler to not forget to allow su and to instead only allow sudo to elevate priveleges
04:42.39herloprivileges
04:42.43herlorather
04:42.59herloso I guess it's style, but i really think it's a habit forming argument.
04:43.03shalkieAh, Habit. I don't have that issue and can keep my bad habits. ;-)
04:43.45herloheh
04:44.04herloyep, I can see reason to do it the right way (tm) every time.
04:44.33shalkieSo lets see. I have DNS installed, Kerberosv5 installed and OpenLDAP installed. I don't think I need anything else on this system.
04:44.56shalkieI agree. Being consistant is a good thing and falls in the KISS methodology.
04:45.05shalkie:-)
04:45.53shalkieSo this AWS setup is going to be my Koji builders.
04:46.16shalkieGive this thing a bit of a dry run.
04:47.16herloshalkie: I wonder, why did you not use FreeIPA?
04:48.09shalkie<PROTECTED>
04:48.24shalkieis aware that FreeIPA provides more features...
04:49.20shalkieUm... That probably didn't come out that great.
04:49.29herloshalkie: oh, well it just makes kerberos and such simpler is all
04:49.59shalkieherlo: Yeah, but someone at somepoint recommended I get experience with things like Kerberos. They also suggested I go skiing...
04:50.01shalkie:-P
04:50.04herloshalkie: yeah, I understand your desire to know how al lthe moving parts work :)
04:50.21herloshalkie: I recommended FreeIPA to get familiar with krb :)
04:50.32herlosince most of the work is done on the client side anyway
04:50.33shalkieOh it isn't kerberos that I am worried about.
04:50.43shalkieIt is the freaking OpenLDAP server that drives me bonkers.
04:50.48herlosetting up a kdc seems painful to me
04:50.56herlooh, well ldap is confusing for a long while. :)
04:51.06herlostill gets confused about searchdns and such
04:51.36shalkieI think it is the freaking ASN that I can't wrap my brain around.
04:51.42herloASN?
04:51.52shalkieAbstract Syntax Notation.
04:51.52herloyou mean ASN1 and the like?
04:51.56shalkieYep.
04:53.26herlodoesn't even know those, but hasn't needed them so far
04:53.56makfinskyI know both krb and ldap. Ask me when I am awake.
04:53.58makfinsky:-D
04:54.18shalkie:-)
04:55.10shalkieherlo: In most cases you probably wouldn't with most setups these days. It is the idea though that there is a string of numbers that represent what is valid syntax and the sequence is somewhat freeform.
04:55.25herlomakfinsky: lol
04:55.25shalkieIt just... It just causes a feedback loop in my brain for some reason.
04:55.45herloshalkie: understood
05:41.30shalkieWow, I have gotten a bit rusty with these tools.
05:47.58shalkieOkay, time to go relax a bit, watch some TV and finish a couple things up before calling it a night.
05:53.03herlo<PROTECTED>
05:53.09shalkienight.
11:58.23zoglesby9PM is very late
12:39.04goosebotIssue OPENED - gooseproject/main: #1780 (RC4 64-bit DVD Repoclosure test fails) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1780>
12:49.17goosebotIssue OPENED - gooseproject/main: #1781 (RC4 64-bit DVD Conflicts test fails) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1781>
13:32.54goozbachsorry for flaking out yesterday
13:33.23goozbachI totally forgot and was in the middle of something important when clint txt's me
14:25.58goosebotIssue OPENED - gooseproject/main: #1782 (RC4 i386 DVD Conflicts test fails) <https://github.com/gooseproject/main/issues/1782>
16:22.43shalkieGoOSe Morning!
17:21.45herlozoglesby: fair enough, thanks for the tickets
17:22.22herlozoglesby: I want to do things earlier actually, like 6pm or even 5pm ET, since I tend to be busy every night after about 8pm ET
17:22.38herlobut I know that others would be working then in the west.
17:22.47herloso, I'm not sure what to do
17:47.21zoglesbyherlo: no worries, I don't normally have an issue with the time
17:47.44zoglesbybut last night the kids went to bed, and I figured I would go to sleep
17:51.28herlozoglesby: no problemo
18:16.15zoglesbyherlo: also do you want to start writing (aka copying) test procedures on the wiki rather then linking over to fedora?
18:21.42herlozoglesby: I do
18:22.04herlozoglesby: in fact, that is the end goal. I'd like to use that main page as a tracker for each release.
18:23.05herloafter seeing how it's playing out, I'll probably make an archive page for each release and copy this back to the main page empty.
18:24.25zoglesbyherlo: okay, I wil try and make instructions on the wiki for any tests that I do
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18:32.05herlozoglesby: rocking
18:32.25herlozoglesby: I'll have a look at the ones that failed (thanks for filing issues on those) tonight
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