IRC log for #gooseproject on 20111012

00:00.25NafaiHeh: https://twitter.com/#!/mpt/status/123910008038621184
00:14.20NafaiCool, AscendOS guy reaching out
00:29.32herloNafai: that's the Ascendos guy?
00:29.53Nafaino, mpt is a Canonical guy
00:30.01NafaiThe AscendOS guy sent an email to the list
00:30.30herlooh, about to read it
00:30.30herlothen
00:30.59herloNafai: ahh, yes
00:37.09herlothat's cool. I guess we'll need to talk about that too
00:40.23herlonotes there are 20 minutes until the meetn
00:41.26Nafaihave a chance to look at my commit?
00:42.41herloNafai: not yet
00:42.48Nafaik, just curious
00:42.53herloI just finally got my machine reinstalled this morning
00:43.33NafaiI might do a re-install tonight
00:43.50herlocool
00:56.25herlo4 minutes
01:00.09shalkie#begin
01:00.16shalkie?
01:00.25herlooh, hai
01:00.33herlo#startmeeting
01:00.42herlolooks it up
01:00.52herlo@startmeeting
01:00.56herlo.startmeeting
01:00.58shalkie#startmeeting Weekly
01:01.03herlolol
01:01.10herlooh, I'm not an op
01:01.12makfinskyOh no... chairs??
01:01.15makfinskyDoh!
01:01.43*** mode/#gooseproject [+o herlo] by ChanServ
01:02.00herlo#startmeeting GoOSe Weekly Meeting
01:02.15shalkieOh, where is goosebot?
01:02.17herlowell, let me ook further
01:02.22herlolol, I can start that again
01:02.23herlohang on
01:02.25Nafaiook!
01:03.16herlostarting up now
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01:03.37herloyay
01:03.46shalkie#startmeeting Weekly!
01:03.47goosebotMeeting started Wed Oct 12 01:03:46 2011 UTC.  The chair is shalkie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
01:03.47goosebotUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
01:03.47*** topic/#gooseproject by goosebot -> (Meeting topic: Weekly!)
01:03.55herloshalkie: boo!
01:04.00shalkie#chair herlo
01:04.01goosebotCurrent chairs: herlo shalkie
01:04.06herlo:)
01:04.08shalkie#chair makfinsky
01:04.08goosebotCurrent chairs: herlo makfinsky shalkie
01:04.25shalkie#chair goozbach
01:04.26goosebotCurrent chairs: goozbach herlo makfinsky shalkie
01:04.35herlowhew! good thing goozbach gave me access :P
01:04.43herlookkay, role call :)
01:04.43shalkieAgreed!
01:04.52makfinskyPresent and accounting for!
01:04.52shalkie#topic rollcall
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01:05.11herlois here!
01:05.18shalkieis here
01:05.19Nafaio/ I'm here, and yes, I am standing up.
01:05.25herlofor what?
01:05.38Nafaisorry. short joke.
01:05.47Nafaidoesn't work as well on IRC
01:06.00herlolol, okay
01:06.10shalkieOnly when it is 4 characters or less. :_)
01:06.12herlo#topic scrum
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01:06.18herloshalkie: go
01:06.47shalkieMe?
01:06.52herloyes, you
01:06.54herlogo
01:07.19shalkieK, I haven't really gotten much done since the last meeting and based on the way I feel I don't think I will get much done this week either.
01:07.23shalkie:-(
01:07.29herlofrowns
01:07.45herloshalkie: that it?
01:07.57shalkieUm, yeah pretty much I am afraid.
01:08.08herlonw. I'll go
01:08.10shalkieherlo: Your turn. :_)
01:08.36herloonly worked a bit on skein build, not quite ready, but I'll hopefully commit it soon
01:08.44herlonothing is holding me up
01:08.50herlois done, makfinsky ?
01:08.59makfinskyOof... I've been slacking.
01:09.24makfinskyMeant to work on QA server today, only my personal disorganization is holding me up.
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01:09.37herloreminds makfinsky to work on the qa server
01:09.49makfinskyExcellent, thanks herlo. I do need that.
01:09.52herlo#action makfinsky to get organized
01:10.09herlo#undo
01:10.10goosebotRemoving item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x2fee4d0>
01:10.14herlomakfinsky: you done?
01:10.19makfinskyYeah, done.
01:10.24herlok, Nafai ?
01:10.52NafaiI added configuration support to grapple, so you don't have to modify source to set it up for production
01:11.05herloyay!
01:11.15NafaiAnd I'll work with herlo to get it deployed and working if he has time
01:11.31shalkieHoorah!
01:11.33herlo#action Nafai to work with herlo to deploy grapple the rest of the way
01:11.43herloNafai: you done?
01:11.45Nafaidone
01:12.00herlocool
01:12.23herlo#topic GoOSe Sprint!
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01:12.33herloshalkie: your deal
01:13.54herlowaits for shalkie
01:16.41shalkieOops. Sorry.
01:18.09shalkieSo, yeah. The idea is simply to set aside the 22nd for some dedicated work time.
01:18.20herlogo!
01:18.40shalkieherlo has pointed out that he would like to be available fro the entire day but others are certainly welcome to come and go.
01:18.56herlosorry, lost connection
01:19.09herloNafai: makfinsky and others, any interest?
01:19.21herlo#link https://groups.google.com/group/goose-linux/browse_thread/thread/2014bbcf3f1509e9
01:19.31shalkieThe meeting place is in the IRC channel, but I would suggest pairing up in your area if there is someone near you.
01:19.40NafaiYeah, I'd be interested
01:19.50Nafaiand I'd be interested in meeting up with locals
01:19.56herloNafai: w00t!
01:20.27shalkieMind you, if you want to travel in from out of town I am sure people would be willing to meetup.
01:20.27Nafaithough, depending on how the work week goes, part of the time might have to be $$$ work, instead of Goose
01:20.30makfinskySory guys, yes, I am interested. Just not sure about the schedule at the moment.
01:20.33shalkiepoints at makfinsky
01:20.50shalkie:-P
01:21.18makfinskyWho's on the East Coast? We can have a DC meetup!
01:21.29herlomakfinsky: gooz is
01:21.32herlobut he's not here this week
01:21.34shalkieOkay, this is certainly not going to be the last of the sprints. I would like to also suggest doing a sprint day at least once a couple months.
01:21.43makfinskyshalkie: As much as I'd love to fly out there, we are going to be moving in the next week or so.
01:22.08makfinskyI'll end up in big hot water trouble if I "take off" like that. :P
01:22.26makfinskyshalkie: Agreed on quarterly sprint days.
01:22.38shalkieQuarterly sounds good. :-)
01:22.38herlo#agreed quarterly sprint days
01:23.02herlocool, 10/22 is the meetin!
01:23.09herloer, the sprint day
01:23.19shalkieI would like to remind people that this is for any work, including things like documentation and the website.
01:23.52herloshalkie: can we do 9a-5p or something?
01:24.15herloshalkie: yeah, I didn't mean to call it a Dev sprint other than tosay anything is considered development :)
01:24.18shalkieYeah, sure. Your more then welcome to be there for that time. :-)
01:24.39herloshalkie: k, we just need to figure out a utah location. I think we can do that on the mailing list maybe?
01:25.13shalkieYeah, in fact if you are wanting to meet up with others I would suggest the mailling list.
01:25.39herloshalkie: yeah, we should follow up to that thread
01:25.41herlosounds good
01:25.48herloshalkie: anything else you wanna discuss about that?
01:26.03shalkieNot on that topic, no.
01:26.14herlocool, last topic that just popped up
01:26.33herlohttps://groups.google.com/group/goose-linux/browse_thread/thread/7bf72b705cdaa4fa
01:26.41herlo#topic wheels
01:26.42*** topic/#gooseproject by goosebot -> wheels (Meeting topic: Weekly!)
01:26.57shalkieK..
01:27.10shalkiebtw, hi opapo.
01:27.13shalkiewaves
01:27.49herloAndrew Cutler of Ascendos wanted to touch base, just thought we ought to consider something of a response to his wheels topic
01:28.36herlono rush really, just thought you all would like to read what he wrote
01:28.41makfinskyHis outreach was a welcome read.
01:28.48shalkieread it during dinner
01:28.58makfinskyJust read it before the meeting.
01:29.25herloI think the main thing being that we need to discuss the community aspect with him and maybe a collaboration
01:29.46herlosomething where we both benefit from the work we're doing
01:29.58makfinskyAgreed.
01:30.21herlo#action herlo to draft a response for the goose core to discuss next meeting
01:30.37herloanything else anyone else wants to discuss ??
01:30.43herloon this topic, that is
01:31.42shalkieI don't really. Seemed pretty nice on the whole.
01:31.49herlocool
01:31.57herlo#topic open floor
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01:32.12herloAnyone have anything? If not, I'll close the meeting in 2 minutes
01:33.06Nafainot I
01:33.12shalkieherlo: Are we up for package builds yet? Or is there anything we are waiting on?
01:33.23herloshalkie: well, we can build them
01:33.32herlobut we need to figure out which ones we're building
01:33.37herloso a process needs to be defined there
01:33.52herloand I don't want to do a mass skein import because of the way I originally wrote skein
01:35.00shalkieK. Is your hope that skein 2.0 will resolve this process?
01:35.04herloyes
01:35.17herloI think it will, but I'm still probably a week out on having it ready
01:35.33shalkieSo a week before the sprint? :-)
01:36.16herloshalkie: on the other hand, if you just verify that the package isn't in the gooselinux org, and you *only* import packages that are for sure in the srpms from upstream 6.0, I think you could start building now
01:36.29herlobut it'll definitely be slower
01:37.23shalkieK.
01:37.23herloshalkie: sound okay?
01:37.26herlocool
01:37.29herloanything else?
01:37.40herloclosing meeting in ~1min
01:38.25shalkieWow, an early meeting.
01:38.43Nafaiwe're efficient :)
01:39.03herlo#endmeeting
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01:39.03goosebotMeeting ended Wed Oct 12 01:39:03 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
01:39.03goosebotMinutes:        http://admin.gooseproject.org/goosebot/logs/gooseproject/2011/gooseproject.2011-10-12-01.03.html
01:39.03goosebotMinutes (text): http://admin.gooseproject.org/goosebot/logs/gooseproject/2011/gooseproject.2011-10-12-01.03.txt
01:39.03goosebotLog:            http://admin.gooseproject.org/goosebot/logs/gooseproject/2011/gooseproject.2011-10-12-01.03.log.html
01:39.04shalkieShould we email ascendos congrats on the alpha/beta?
01:39.15herloshalkie: I think we can do that when we respond
01:39.17herlo:)
01:39.25herlobut if you want to do it as an individual, i see no harm
01:39.29herlohas to run for a bit
01:39.37herlosee you all later!
01:40.14shalkieCya.
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01:44.04Viper550Hello.
01:46.54makfinskyHola Viper550.
01:47.17Viper550makfinsky, are you in charge of this at all
01:47.38makfinskyThere's no one really in charge. There are volunteers. I am one of them.
01:50.06makfinskyViper550: Do you have a specific question about the project?
01:50.23Viper550I'm one of the people in charge of another EL respin
01:51.04Viper550ironically, it seems like a lot of your infastructure is quite similiarly built to ours
01:51.25makfinskyYeah, we've noticed that of a few other projects that are doing similar work.
01:51.50makfinskyThe fact that Fedora and el upstream use koji is a pretty solid reason for it.
01:52.50Viper550you've heard of Ascendos, right?
01:53.13makfinskyYes, we've even talked about it amongst the members.
01:53.45makfinskySome of the work done there has helped us actually.
01:53.57makfinskyIt looks like a pretty solid project.
01:54.32Viper550I'm considering a merger.
01:54.59makfinskyThat is something we've been talking about as well.
01:55.04Viper550http://build.ascendos.org/linux/development/dmc/aos-8-gnome.jpg
01:55.18makfinskyShame we just finished our weekly meeting not even 20 mins ago.
01:55.40makfinskySome of the other guys would have been good to have in on this conversation.
01:55.50Viper550damnit
01:58.06makfinskyWe have weekly meetings here on Tuesdays at 9pm Eastern Time.
01:58.36makfinskyherlo, goozbach, shalkie, and a few others are the key contributors at the moment, myself included.
01:59.33makfinskyA merger seems like a very likely and beneficial possibility.
01:59.39NafaiViper550: cool, is that a screenshot from a current build of AscendOS?
02:00.02Viper550Nafai, yes. and its just Ascendos. No uppercase.
02:00.35makfinskyI'll say this, you have better artwork than we do. ;)
02:00.54Nafaioh, thanks.
02:00.56Nafai:)
02:01.00herloViper550: nice to meet you, I'd like to hear what you guys are suggesting regarding a merger. I'm a bit curious about your community building plans
02:01.07herlomakfinsky: lol, my artwork rulez!
02:01.34makfinskyherlo: Your artwork does rule... if your a five year old!! :P
02:01.43makfinskyI kid, I kid!
02:01.47herlolol
02:01.58herloit is worthy of a 5-year old :)
02:02.15makfinskyIt's better than anything I can put together.
02:03.43herlowell, it figures :)
02:14.44NafaiI <3 OpenDNS
02:15.21NafaiI can now connect to my phone from my linode (not sure why I would, but I can) when it is on the cell network
02:16.50herlohates it
02:17.06herloopendns hijacks connections
02:22.06Viper550we're planning on building a 5.x too
02:25.38herloViper550: we discussed it, but I don't think we were planning on it
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13:39.59herloGoOSe Morning
13:42.31Nafaimorning :(
13:46.57herloNafai: long night?
13:47.55NafaiYeah, at least I slept until 3:30-4:00
13:48.05NafaiThen I got up and finished seting up OpenVPN
13:49.09NafaiI can't seem to sleep more than 3 or so hours at a time
13:52.01herlocat naps
13:52.11herloNafai: which life are you on...
13:52.19herlo? :)
13:53.37Nafaioh, you know...
13:53.55Nafaisadly that's fairly accurate these last few years
13:55.53Nafaiwith my health issues, car accident, etc.
14:26.50herloNafai: I think it's probably your 3rd life
14:26.54herloyou still have 6 left!
14:26.58goozbachmorning folks
14:27.11herlogoozbach: !! You are back!
14:27.26goozbachyup
14:27.31herlowelcome back
14:27.38goozbachsaw that giving you access to goosebot was a good idea
14:27.39goozbach:)
14:29.52Nafaiherlo: Yay
14:32.10herlogoozbach: indeed :)
14:32.21herlotook me a minute, but I was able to fix it rather quickly
14:35.13herlogoozbach: did you see we got a visit from Viper550?
14:36.54goozbachyup
14:36.59goozbachjust reading the backlog
14:37.05goozbacher read (past tense)
14:37.09goozbachvery cool
14:38.30herlohehe
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17:03.04goozbachRE ssh keys: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2011-October/003005.html
17:03.13goozbachthere's somethign that fedora is doing to look into keys.
17:03.31goozbachwe should ask what's they're using to do this introspection
17:04.42goozbachsmooge: have any insight into this?
17:05.43smoogejust what is in the email. there have been a lot of breakins lately, various desktops have been compromised, and people reuse passwords and ssh keys a lot
17:06.19smoogeso be proactive before it becomes a "Well why didn't we do that last month now that someone has crapped over us."
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17:14.04goozbachsmooge: I was not questioning the motive
17:14.22goozbachjust wondering what tools are being used to do the enforcement of new keys etc
17:14.50smoogeoh sorry I did not understand your introspection sentence.
17:15.26smoogeseth wrote some scripts to pull out copies of the ssh public keys from fas.
17:15.44smoogefas has a last time changed and some other items to keep track of reused passwords
17:16.08smoogeso when the date comes up and people haven't changed, they get locked out.
17:16.26shalkieThat is pretty cool.
18:17.44herlogoozbach: I think it's a good idea, and have been watching it myself...
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19:55.49shalkieGoOSe afternoon.
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20:57.37herlomakfinsky: https://github.com/blog/959-issues-dashboard-for-organizations <-- just what you were asking for !!
20:58.48Nafaiherlo: So I'm going to start doing packaging next week
20:59.18Nafai(for work)
21:00.13herlooh? what kind of packaging?
21:00.30herloNafai: RPMs?
21:02.28Nafaiyeah
21:02.39NafaiRemember, I'm using Centos. :(
21:04.05herlovery nice
21:04.22herlowhen we get GoOSe up and running, you can switch :)
21:27.13Nafai:)
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21:52.43LirodonHello
21:53.29goozbachhowdy Viper550
21:53.44Viper550you wern't there last night it seems
21:53.50Viper550and I somehow missed the meeting
21:57.03goozbachViper550: I was on vacation for the last week
21:57.09goozbachwe meet every tuesday at 9pm
21:57.13goozbacheastern time
22:00.53makfinskyherlo: Rocking! I wonder if it was the universe channeling my issues dashboard thoughts to the GH folks!
22:03.26Viper550goozbach, cause if I had found it sooner, would have discussed an Ascendos merger more
23:14.18herlomakfinsky: indeed :)
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23:39.04goozbachViper550: we do need to discuss how the two projects could benifit each other at a mininum
23:40.03goozbachwe talked about reaching out to ya'll a few weeks back about the future of goOSelinux in one of our meetings
23:40.09goozbachlet me see if I can find a link
23:40.13Viper550we've got a cloud-based inastructure
23:41.54herloViper550: as do we
23:43.02herloViper550: although, ours is maintained by one of our contributors. Eventually, it would be cool to move to something a bit larger. We did have an offer for something like that at one time, not sure what ever happened there.
23:44.00Viper550we actually have the backing of a Cloud provider in Australlia
23:44.27herloViper550: yeah, I read that on your ml
23:44.35herlonotes he's subscribed and has been for some time
23:45.11goozbachas has goozbach
23:45.23goozbachViper550: here's our meeting minutes from the discussion: http://admin.gooseproject.org/goosebot/logs/gooseproject/2011/gooseproject.2011-09-07-00.59.html
23:45.24herlo:)
23:45.34herlowill be back in a bit, food then hotel
23:46.33goozbachViper550: the actual log: http://admin.gooseproject.org/goosebot/logs/gooseproject/2011/gooseproject.2011-09-07-00.59.log.html#l-92

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