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08:34.41raph_aelhello
09:51.16braindmgtarzeau: update the bios?
09:51.36braindmgtarzeau: although probably the ram modules as not of the same type
10:17.42tarzeaubraindmg: i've tried exchanging all of them, oh well, 512 is enough i guess, otherwise i can replace the whole machine with one that works w/ 768 mb
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11:35.14Le_Vert-Notebookhi :)
11:37.10Le_Vert-NotebookI just want to have some news about kfreebsd :)
11:37.22Le_Vert-Notebookany progress on d-i ?
11:37.53Le_Vert-Notebooki'm now maintaining a few softwares in debian, how can I help you ?
11:38.23Le_Vert-Notebookmay I add kreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64 to supported archs ?
11:41.00CtRiXany mantainer here ?
11:41.06azeemLe_Vert-Notebook: make your package Arch: any
11:41.25azeemLe_Vert-Notebook: and monitor experimental.ftbfs.de for the k*BSD build logs
11:42.07CtRiXi'm a developer of openpbx.org, an asterisk fork. I have debian packages for debian and kfreebsd. Is there any way to add them to any repos ?
11:42.40azeemCtRiX: get them added to the regular Debian GNU/Linux repo, and k*BSD will pick them up if they build fine
11:43.00CtRiXok. where to start ? i have to find a sponsor ?
11:43.52azeemyes, best ask in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org I'd say
11:43.59CtRiXthanks
11:44.43Le_Vert-NotebookI can review your package first and may help you to find a sponsor :)
11:45.02Le_Vert-Notebookokay azeem  :)
11:47.09Le_Vert-Notebookdo you know if scons is known to work ?
11:47.16KiBiIt is.
11:47.30KiBiI built successfully both blender & yafray.
11:49.01Le_Vert-Notebookokay, i'll get kfreebsd on a emu then
11:49.09CtRiXLe_Vert-Notebook, i have a tarball with the debian/ stuff inside
11:49.24CtRiXir i can give you prepackaged stuff
11:49.36CtRiXhttp://www.astfree86.org/openpbx-trunk/opbx-trunk-1941.tgz
11:49.50CtRiXit builds both on sarge and etch
11:50.21Le_Vert-Notebookcould you provide a deb-src pakcage?
11:50.48CtRiXi can make it after lunch !
11:50.58Le_Vert-Notebookfine :)
11:51.04Le_Vert-Notebookwhat's about d-i ?
11:51.07Le_Vert-Notebookany progres on it ?
11:51.18CtRiXd-i ?
11:51.27KiBiCtRiX: debian-installer
11:51.32CtRiXah
11:51.52CtRiXthe one on etch is working fine ... i tested it on my laptop last week !
11:52.03Le_Vert-Notebooki was talking about the kfreebsd one
11:52.25CtRiXah ... don't know. sorry.
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12:37.28CtRiXHans Reiser, the developer of the ReiserFS and Reiser4 filesystems, has been arrested in Oakland, California as a suspect in the disappearance of his estranged wife Nina Reiser
12:37.28CtRiXGH !
12:37.43KiBiCtRiX: 24-hour lag for you. :p
12:37.51CtRiXyeah maybe !
12:37.52sid3windryeah :)
12:38.07KiBiYou might have missed http://www.ninareiser.com/ too, then? :-)
12:38.27CtRiXi missed it too
12:38.55sid3windrI .doc flyer ;/
12:38.57sid3windrs/I/A/
12:38.59CtRiXshe probably disappeared after a fsck... maybe she's in /lost+found
12:39.07sid3windrindeed apt I did
12:39.18sid3windrCtRiX: only one way to find out, read reiser's journal
12:39.20sid3windretc etc.
12:39.35sid3windrthe jokes are all 24h laggy too ;)
12:40.05CtRiXgh
12:40.11CtRiXok i'll shut up!
12:40.19KiBi:-)
12:43.20Le_Vert-Notebookhttp://lutin.jard.in/~dek/reiser.png < there's this one too
12:44.30CtRiXROTFL!
12:46.44nyuthat's disgusting
12:48.00nyuCtRiX: btw, what is the motivation for this asterisk fork?
12:48.36CtRiXnyu, many reasons.. depends on the person who partecipates
12:48.43CtRiXjust a few ones
12:48.59CtRiX1) asterisk is not stable enough and people wants it to be stable
12:49.28CtRiX2) * has developement driven by digium who doesn't care much of non paying users
12:49.34nyufor 1) that case doesn't a stable branch make more sense than a fork?
12:49.42CtRiX2) adding features or contributing code is almost impossible
12:49.53CtRiX(that was 3)
12:49.58nyuah, I see
12:50.22nyuwell, since I bought a card from them, I'm a "paying user"
12:50.30nyuor you're referring to users who contract support
12:50.37CtRiX4) we wanted a truly GPL program and we want people to contribute without signing things
12:50.49nyuasterisk is not GPL?
12:50.52CtRiX5) we wanted to get free from hardware timers etccc.
12:50.58nyuthey require copyright assignments?
12:51.03CtRiXnyu, contract support
12:51.10CtRiX* is dual license
12:51.12nyuwhat hardware timers?
12:51.32nyudoes openpbx also include non-free firmware?
12:51.38CtRiXif you want to contribute, you have to sign something to give them freedom to use in the non gpl version
12:51.44CtRiXno nyu
12:51.53nyusounds good overall
12:52.00CtRiXsomething is heavily bounded to timers
12:52.09nyumaybe I give it a try.  how easy is it to setup in comparison to asterisk?
12:52.11CtRiXif you use a sip only config many things will not work
12:52.16nyubtw did you also fork zaptel?
12:52.23CtRiXnyu, it's basically the same
12:52.46nyuI see
12:52.46CtRiXwe forked zaptel but had no time to mantain our version. digium version is ok
12:53.15CtRiXnow  * 1.4 is almost out with bells and wistles... google talk and other useless things
12:53.26CtRiXin the meanwhile we have kernel timers, he have stun support
12:53.33CtRiXwe have T38 faxing
12:53.37CtRiXand many other things.
12:53.45nyuI heard about a new interface "ael" that is more script-friendly.  does openpbx have that too?
12:54.17CtRiXi have ported it... it's not as updated as the * one
12:54.37CtRiXi stopped to mantain it in the meanwhile because ael is buggy
12:54.52nyuI see
12:55.11nyuthanks for the info.  I'll give it a try
12:55.17nyu(it = openpbx)
12:55.23CtRiX^_^ thanks
12:55.31CtRiXand if you can code, you are welcome
12:55.46CtRiX#openpbx is our channel ...
12:56.07CtRiX(BTW, doesn't work on freebsd but on kfreebsd works nice)
12:56.48nyu:)
13:01.30CtRiXlibc6 is not very posix compliant while glibc6 is
13:10.25wobin_my kfreebsd box just died
13:10.34wobin_crashed in the middle of updates
13:10.45wobin_but had freebsd-loader removed for some reason
13:11.13wobin_was going to resolve that after dselect finished
13:18.34wobin_ah
13:18.51wobin_chroot from freebsd installcd at least allows me to do apt-get install kfreebsd-loader :)
13:24.01wobin_oh
13:24.12wobin_new kfreebsd-image 6.1 conflicts with kfreebsd-loader
13:24.19wobin_that's not at all nice
13:24.27wobin_hope it comes with it's own loader then...
14:25.13Le_Vert-Notebookwobin_, any news ? :p
14:25.21Le_Vert-Notebookis your system still broken
14:27.26wobin_updating
14:27.30wobin_it's an amd k6-II
14:27.34wobin_and an old disk
14:34.18wobin_newest kernel conflicts with kfreebsd-loader <<5.4-3
14:34.34wobin_but the only available version is 5.4-1
14:39.34wobin_fetched .dev of kfreebsd-loader, and installed with dpkg -i --force-all
14:39.37wobin_can boot again
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14:49.40Le_Vert-NotebookI have just installed a kfreebsd in qemu
14:50.03Le_Vert-Notebookthe only problem I had is kldutils conflicting with the new kernel
14:50.18Le_Vert-NotebookI forced the upgrade and everything seems to work fine for now
14:50.37wobin_that's with the 5.4 kernel probably?
14:50.50Le_Vert-Notebookno 7.0
14:50.58Le_Vert-Notebookmodule-init-tools replace kldutils
14:51.00wobin_ah
14:51.09Le_Vert-Notebookbut as kldutils is an essential package
14:51.26Le_Vert-NotebookI had to say blablabla Yes I a dumb but sorry dude I know what I'm doing
14:57.01sid3windr:-)
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15:33.07Le_Vert-Notebookmmhhh
15:33.13Le_Vert-Notebookkfreebsd broken ^^
15:33.39Le_Vert-Notebookhow can I start in safe mode ?
15:37.10Le_Vert-NotebookI just need to avoid kdm to start
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15:37.22Le_Vert-Notebookbut I tried to type 3 at the loader prompt
15:37.33Le_Vert-Notebookbut it still boots in regular mode
15:40.00Le_Vert-Notebookit's there anyway to break boot by pressing some keys?
15:42.59Le_Vert-Notebooksorry it's working :)
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16:15.47Le_Vert-Notebookhttp://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/post.html#misc
16:15.50Le_Vert-Notebookhey guy
16:15.52Le_Vert-Notebookguys
16:16.03Le_Vert-Notebookthe gpg key is wrong here
16:16.13Le_Vert-Notebookit's not this one which is used on the gnuab server anyore
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16:40.09CIA-1203aurel32 * r1683 10/trunk/kfreebsd-6/debian/changelog: * Relax the conflict with kfreebsd-loader to (<< 5.4-1.3).
16:49.16braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: hmm has it expired=
16:49.17braindmg?
16:50.11Le_Vert-Notebookit's not the key which is used
16:55.04braindmghmm?
16:55.14braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: I don't understand the problem then
16:55.52Le_Vert-Notebookthis is not the key you have to add to get gnuab as a trusted repository
16:56.37braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: no the key is CD02E583
16:56.46braindmgor the one in archive.gnuab.org/
16:57.13braindmghmm I should probably prepare that gnuab-archive-keyring...
16:57.19braindmg(package)
16:57.23Le_Vert-Notebookwai
16:57.24Le_Vert-Notebookwait
16:57.32braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: I'll update the page later today...
16:59.52Le_Vert-Notebookgnuab repository is signed by CD02E583 and the webpage say it's with 359AAB34
17:02.14braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: I told you the correct key is CD02E583
17:02.23braindmg359AAB34 is probably the one from 2005
17:02.29braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: the doc is just outdated
17:02.40braindmgI sent a mail with the updated key signed by me to the list
17:02.52braindmgprobably at the beginning of the year or so
17:04.49Le_Vert-Notebooknobody seems to have noticed this :)
17:05.24braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: well people probably just read the mailing list ;)
17:05.27braindmgor ask here dunno
19:23.09tarzeauthere is more people in here than usual, isn't it?
19:23.46Le_Vert-Notebookwe want kfreebsd for etch  ! :p
19:29.05tarzeauhaha :) yes we do!
19:30.30braindmgLe_Vert-Notebook: so you have started porting d-i already? ;)
19:31.44Le_Vert-NotebookI'd be happy to do :/
21:08.51CtRiXLe_Vert-Notebook, i have the debsrc
21:08.51CtRiX8 hours late but i have them !
21:08.51CtRiXhttp://www.astfree86.org/debian/
21:08.52CtRiXdeian packages for etch && debsrc. This is the latest trunk.
21:08.53CtRiXthere is also spandsp latest version which is required.
21:09.18CtRiXif it works for you we may try to solve eventual problems and try to find a mentor.
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22:52.25braindmgaurel32: did you meant to reply about the d-i stuff here?
22:52.50braindmgaurel32: or was it drow?
22:52.54braindmg+for
23:14.44aurel32braindmg: for drow
23:14.59aurel32braindmg: on qemu-system-mips
23:16.19Le_Vert-Notebookwhat's about d-i ?
23:16.25Le_Vert-Notebookare you working on it ?
23:16.56aurel32that does not concern gnu/kfreebsd
23:17.00aurel32but rather mips
23:17.02aurel32under qemu
23:18.27Le_Vert-Notebookoh ok :)

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