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08:34.41 | raph_ael | hello |
09:51.16 | braindmg | tarzeau: update the bios? |
09:51.36 | braindmg | tarzeau: although probably the ram modules as not of the same type |
10:17.42 | tarzeau | braindmg: i've tried exchanging all of them, oh well, 512 is enough i guess, otherwise i can replace the whole machine with one that works w/ 768 mb |
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11:35.14 | Le_Vert-Notebook | hi :) |
11:37.10 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I just want to have some news about kfreebsd :) |
11:37.22 | Le_Vert-Notebook | any progress on d-i ? |
11:37.53 | Le_Vert-Notebook | i'm now maintaining a few softwares in debian, how can I help you ? |
11:38.23 | Le_Vert-Notebook | may I add kreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64 to supported archs ? |
11:41.00 | CtRiX | any mantainer here ? |
11:41.06 | azeem | Le_Vert-Notebook: make your package Arch: any |
11:41.25 | azeem | Le_Vert-Notebook: and monitor experimental.ftbfs.de for the k*BSD build logs |
11:42.07 | CtRiX | i'm a developer of openpbx.org, an asterisk fork. I have debian packages for debian and kfreebsd. Is there any way to add them to any repos ? |
11:42.40 | azeem | CtRiX: get them added to the regular Debian GNU/Linux repo, and k*BSD will pick them up if they build fine |
11:43.00 | CtRiX | ok. where to start ? i have to find a sponsor ? |
11:43.52 | azeem | yes, best ask in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org I'd say |
11:43.59 | CtRiX | thanks |
11:44.43 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I can review your package first and may help you to find a sponsor :) |
11:45.02 | Le_Vert-Notebook | okay azeem :) |
11:47.09 | Le_Vert-Notebook | do you know if scons is known to work ? |
11:47.16 | KiBi | It is. |
11:47.30 | KiBi | I built successfully both blender & yafray. |
11:49.01 | Le_Vert-Notebook | okay, i'll get kfreebsd on a emu then |
11:49.09 | CtRiX | Le_Vert-Notebook, i have a tarball with the debian/ stuff inside |
11:49.24 | CtRiX | ir i can give you prepackaged stuff |
11:49.36 | CtRiX | http://www.astfree86.org/openpbx-trunk/opbx-trunk-1941.tgz |
11:49.50 | CtRiX | it builds both on sarge and etch |
11:50.21 | Le_Vert-Notebook | could you provide a deb-src pakcage? |
11:50.48 | CtRiX | i can make it after lunch ! |
11:50.58 | Le_Vert-Notebook | fine :) |
11:51.04 | Le_Vert-Notebook | what's about d-i ? |
11:51.07 | Le_Vert-Notebook | any progres on it ? |
11:51.18 | CtRiX | d-i ? |
11:51.27 | KiBi | CtRiX: debian-installer |
11:51.32 | CtRiX | ah |
11:51.52 | CtRiX | the one on etch is working fine ... i tested it on my laptop last week ! |
11:52.03 | Le_Vert-Notebook | i was talking about the kfreebsd one |
11:52.25 | CtRiX | ah ... don't know. sorry. |
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12:37.28 | CtRiX | Hans Reiser, the developer of the ReiserFS and Reiser4 filesystems, has been arrested in Oakland, California as a suspect in the disappearance of his estranged wife Nina Reiser |
12:37.28 | CtRiX | GH ! |
12:37.43 | KiBi | CtRiX: 24-hour lag for you. :p |
12:37.51 | CtRiX | yeah maybe ! |
12:37.52 | sid3windr | yeah :) |
12:38.07 | KiBi | You might have missed http://www.ninareiser.com/ too, then? :-) |
12:38.27 | CtRiX | i missed it too |
12:38.55 | sid3windr | I .doc flyer ;/ |
12:38.57 | sid3windr | s/I/A/ |
12:38.59 | CtRiX | she probably disappeared after a fsck... maybe she's in /lost+found |
12:39.07 | sid3windr | indeed apt I did |
12:39.18 | sid3windr | CtRiX: only one way to find out, read reiser's journal |
12:39.20 | sid3windr | etc etc. |
12:39.35 | sid3windr | the jokes are all 24h laggy too ;) |
12:40.05 | CtRiX | gh |
12:40.11 | CtRiX | ok i'll shut up! |
12:40.19 | KiBi | :-) |
12:43.20 | Le_Vert-Notebook | http://lutin.jard.in/~dek/reiser.png < there's this one too |
12:44.30 | CtRiX | ROTFL! |
12:46.44 | nyu | that's disgusting |
12:48.00 | nyu | CtRiX: btw, what is the motivation for this asterisk fork? |
12:48.36 | CtRiX | nyu, many reasons.. depends on the person who partecipates |
12:48.43 | CtRiX | just a few ones |
12:48.59 | CtRiX | 1) asterisk is not stable enough and people wants it to be stable |
12:49.28 | CtRiX | 2) * has developement driven by digium who doesn't care much of non paying users |
12:49.34 | nyu | for 1) that case doesn't a stable branch make more sense than a fork? |
12:49.42 | CtRiX | 2) adding features or contributing code is almost impossible |
12:49.53 | CtRiX | (that was 3) |
12:49.58 | nyu | ah, I see |
12:50.22 | nyu | well, since I bought a card from them, I'm a "paying user" |
12:50.30 | nyu | or you're referring to users who contract support |
12:50.37 | CtRiX | 4) we wanted a truly GPL program and we want people to contribute without signing things |
12:50.49 | nyu | asterisk is not GPL? |
12:50.52 | CtRiX | 5) we wanted to get free from hardware timers etccc. |
12:50.58 | nyu | they require copyright assignments? |
12:51.03 | CtRiX | nyu, contract support |
12:51.10 | CtRiX | * is dual license |
12:51.12 | nyu | what hardware timers? |
12:51.32 | nyu | does openpbx also include non-free firmware? |
12:51.38 | CtRiX | if you want to contribute, you have to sign something to give them freedom to use in the non gpl version |
12:51.44 | CtRiX | no nyu |
12:51.53 | nyu | sounds good overall |
12:52.00 | CtRiX | something is heavily bounded to timers |
12:52.09 | nyu | maybe I give it a try. how easy is it to setup in comparison to asterisk? |
12:52.11 | CtRiX | if you use a sip only config many things will not work |
12:52.16 | nyu | btw did you also fork zaptel? |
12:52.23 | CtRiX | nyu, it's basically the same |
12:52.46 | nyu | I see |
12:52.46 | CtRiX | we forked zaptel but had no time to mantain our version. digium version is ok |
12:53.15 | CtRiX | now * 1.4 is almost out with bells and wistles... google talk and other useless things |
12:53.26 | CtRiX | in the meanwhile we have kernel timers, he have stun support |
12:53.33 | CtRiX | we have T38 faxing |
12:53.37 | CtRiX | and many other things. |
12:53.45 | nyu | I heard about a new interface "ael" that is more script-friendly. does openpbx have that too? |
12:54.17 | CtRiX | i have ported it... it's not as updated as the * one |
12:54.37 | CtRiX | i stopped to mantain it in the meanwhile because ael is buggy |
12:54.52 | nyu | I see |
12:55.11 | nyu | thanks for the info. I'll give it a try |
12:55.17 | nyu | (it = openpbx) |
12:55.23 | CtRiX | ^_^ thanks |
12:55.31 | CtRiX | and if you can code, you are welcome |
12:55.46 | CtRiX | #openpbx is our channel ... |
12:56.07 | CtRiX | (BTW, doesn't work on freebsd but on kfreebsd works nice) |
12:56.48 | nyu | :) |
13:01.30 | CtRiX | libc6 is not very posix compliant while glibc6 is |
13:10.25 | wobin_ | my kfreebsd box just died |
13:10.34 | wobin_ | crashed in the middle of updates |
13:10.45 | wobin_ | but had freebsd-loader removed for some reason |
13:11.13 | wobin_ | was going to resolve that after dselect finished |
13:18.34 | wobin_ | ah |
13:18.51 | wobin_ | chroot from freebsd installcd at least allows me to do apt-get install kfreebsd-loader :) |
13:24.01 | wobin_ | oh |
13:24.12 | wobin_ | new kfreebsd-image 6.1 conflicts with kfreebsd-loader |
13:24.19 | wobin_ | that's not at all nice |
13:24.27 | wobin_ | hope it comes with it's own loader then... |
14:25.13 | Le_Vert-Notebook | wobin_, any news ? :p |
14:25.21 | Le_Vert-Notebook | is your system still broken |
14:27.26 | wobin_ | updating |
14:27.30 | wobin_ | it's an amd k6-II |
14:27.34 | wobin_ | and an old disk |
14:34.18 | wobin_ | newest kernel conflicts with kfreebsd-loader <<5.4-3 |
14:34.34 | wobin_ | but the only available version is 5.4-1 |
14:39.34 | wobin_ | fetched .dev of kfreebsd-loader, and installed with dpkg -i --force-all |
14:39.37 | wobin_ | can boot again |
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14:49.40 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I have just installed a kfreebsd in qemu |
14:50.03 | Le_Vert-Notebook | the only problem I had is kldutils conflicting with the new kernel |
14:50.18 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I forced the upgrade and everything seems to work fine for now |
14:50.37 | wobin_ | that's with the 5.4 kernel probably? |
14:50.50 | Le_Vert-Notebook | no 7.0 |
14:50.58 | Le_Vert-Notebook | module-init-tools replace kldutils |
14:51.00 | wobin_ | ah |
14:51.09 | Le_Vert-Notebook | but as kldutils is an essential package |
14:51.26 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I had to say blablabla Yes I a dumb but sorry dude I know what I'm doing |
14:57.01 | sid3windr | :-) |
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15:33.07 | Le_Vert-Notebook | mmhhh |
15:33.13 | Le_Vert-Notebook | kfreebsd broken ^^ |
15:33.39 | Le_Vert-Notebook | how can I start in safe mode ? |
15:37.10 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I just need to avoid kdm to start |
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15:37.22 | Le_Vert-Notebook | but I tried to type 3 at the loader prompt |
15:37.33 | Le_Vert-Notebook | but it still boots in regular mode |
15:40.00 | Le_Vert-Notebook | it's there anyway to break boot by pressing some keys? |
15:42.59 | Le_Vert-Notebook | sorry it's working :) |
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16:15.47 | Le_Vert-Notebook | http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/post.html#misc |
16:15.50 | Le_Vert-Notebook | hey guy |
16:15.52 | Le_Vert-Notebook | guys |
16:16.03 | Le_Vert-Notebook | the gpg key is wrong here |
16:16.13 | Le_Vert-Notebook | it's not this one which is used on the gnuab server anyore |
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16:40.09 | CIA-12 | 03aurel32 * r1683 10/trunk/kfreebsd-6/debian/changelog: * Relax the conflict with kfreebsd-loader to (<< 5.4-1.3). |
16:49.16 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: hmm has it expired= |
16:49.17 | braindmg | ? |
16:50.11 | Le_Vert-Notebook | it's not the key which is used |
16:55.04 | braindmg | hmm? |
16:55.14 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: I don't understand the problem then |
16:55.52 | Le_Vert-Notebook | this is not the key you have to add to get gnuab as a trusted repository |
16:56.37 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: no the key is CD02E583 |
16:56.46 | braindmg | or the one in archive.gnuab.org/ |
16:57.13 | braindmg | hmm I should probably prepare that gnuab-archive-keyring... |
16:57.19 | braindmg | (package) |
16:57.23 | Le_Vert-Notebook | wai |
16:57.24 | Le_Vert-Notebook | wait |
16:57.32 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: I'll update the page later today... |
16:59.52 | Le_Vert-Notebook | gnuab repository is signed by CD02E583 and the webpage say it's with 359AAB34 |
17:02.14 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: I told you the correct key is CD02E583 |
17:02.23 | braindmg | 359AAB34 is probably the one from 2005 |
17:02.29 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: the doc is just outdated |
17:02.40 | braindmg | I sent a mail with the updated key signed by me to the list |
17:02.52 | braindmg | probably at the beginning of the year or so |
17:04.49 | Le_Vert-Notebook | nobody seems to have noticed this :) |
17:05.24 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: well people probably just read the mailing list ;) |
17:05.27 | braindmg | or ask here dunno |
19:23.09 | tarzeau | there is more people in here than usual, isn't it? |
19:23.46 | Le_Vert-Notebook | we want kfreebsd for etch ! :p |
19:29.05 | tarzeau | haha :) yes we do! |
19:30.30 | braindmg | Le_Vert-Notebook: so you have started porting d-i already? ;) |
19:31.44 | Le_Vert-Notebook | I'd be happy to do :/ |
21:08.51 | CtRiX | Le_Vert-Notebook, i have the debsrc |
21:08.51 | CtRiX | 8 hours late but i have them ! |
21:08.51 | CtRiX | http://www.astfree86.org/debian/ |
21:08.52 | CtRiX | deian packages for etch && debsrc. This is the latest trunk. |
21:08.53 | CtRiX | there is also spandsp latest version which is required. |
21:09.18 | CtRiX | if it works for you we may try to solve eventual problems and try to find a mentor. |
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22:52.25 | braindmg | aurel32: did you meant to reply about the d-i stuff here? |
22:52.50 | braindmg | aurel32: or was it drow? |
22:52.54 | braindmg | +for |
23:14.44 | aurel32 | braindmg: for drow |
23:14.59 | aurel32 | braindmg: on qemu-system-mips |
23:16.19 | Le_Vert-Notebook | what's about d-i ? |
23:16.25 | Le_Vert-Notebook | are you working on it ? |
23:16.56 | aurel32 | that does not concern gnu/kfreebsd |
23:17.00 | aurel32 | but rather mips |
23:17.02 | aurel32 | under qemu |
23:18.27 | Le_Vert-Notebook | oh ok :) |