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| 08:41.01 | tarzeau | 9~/nam |
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| 15:58.06 | tarzeau | otavio: did you had any time for grub2? |
| 16:11.39 | otavio | tarzeau: no :( |
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| 16:14.18 | llp | does ppp was ported to GNU/kFreeBSD? |
| 16:26.29 | tarzeau | according to http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/ppp , no |
| 16:29.08 | llp | ok :( |
| 16:59.29 | tarzeau | you could port/fix it! |
| 17:01.30 | KiBi | Are there some big blockers (right now) for the GNU/kFreeBSD port? |
| 17:01.53 | tarzeau | d-i need be ported |
| 17:01.54 | KiBi | I'm thinking of something like mesa or x.org maybe |
| 17:01.57 | tarzeau | grub/os-prober |
| 17:02.01 | nyu | KiBi: base and d-i |
| 17:02.02 | tarzeau | and a bunch of packages |
| 17:02.13 | tarzeau | x.org works great |
| 17:02.21 | KiBi | OK. |
| 17:02.35 | KiBi | I just saw yesterday that e.g. blender was missing. |
| 17:02.50 | tarzeau | and portaudio19-dev |
| 17:02.55 | KiBi | But I didn't take time to investigate why; just wanted to know :) |
| 17:02.56 | tarzeau | and firefox |
| 17:02.56 | nyu | blender is not a big blocker |
| 17:03.07 | nyu | or even firefox |
| 17:03.13 | KiBi | nyu: But if mesa or xorg had been, blender would have been a consequence |
| 17:03.23 | KiBi | (Hence my question ;)) |
| 17:03.37 | tarzeau | KiBi: why not install and try it? |
| 17:03.47 | nyu | currently the biggest problem is base |
| 17:03.47 | tarzeau | KiBi: maybe you can get blender and firefox to build? |
| 17:03.52 | KiBi | tarzeau: I was missing an ethernet slot :) |
| 17:03.55 | tarzeau | nyu: what exactly in base? |
| 17:03.56 | nyu | KiBi: http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/BASE |
| 17:04.18 | KiBi | tarzeau: I already port some packages for hurd, actually, and I think I could help GNU/kFreeBSD too. |
| 17:04.23 | KiBi | nyu: Thanks. |
| 17:04.34 | tarzeau | KiBi: ahhhh i think i've seen you already once on irc .. |
| 17:04.46 | nyu | KiBi: and http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/D-I |
| 17:05.04 | tarzeau | what's the issue with ufsutils? |
| 17:05.30 | tarzeau | KiBi: what ethernet slot you're missing? a network card? a pci slot for such a card? |
| 17:05.36 | KiBi | BTW d-i & base are totally out of reach for me |
| 17:06.03 | KiBi | tarzeau: I was missing an ethernet switch, bought one this morning, so I'll have network access this evening. :-) |
| 17:06.17 | tarzeau | KiBi: and be able to install gnu/kfreebsd? |
| 17:06.24 | KiBi | But porting ``end user'' apps should be OK. |
| 17:06.32 | tarzeau | sounds great :) |
| 17:06.33 | KiBi | tarzeau: Already installed |
| 17:06.44 | tarzeau | did you upgrade to kfreebsd 6.1 kernel? |
| 17:06.58 | KiBi | I just installed the base, no more. |
| 17:08.10 | tarzeau | man ufsutils is from 2004.06.26-4 ... isn't it time to upload it to sid? |
| 17:23.30 | nyu | KiBi: ufsutils needs an update to get in sync with current freebsd, and also be uploaded to sid |
| 17:23.55 | nyu | we could also drop the non-kfreebsd compat baggage. it's proved to be useless |
| 17:24.07 | nyu | (and go back to using ioctls like upstream) |
| 17:26.23 | tarzeau | nyu: sounds good, does someone work on that? |
| 17:57.49 | KiBi | nyu: OK. Thanks. |
| 18:05.05 | nyu | tarzeau: dunno. braindmg? |
| 19:09.39 | braindmg | yes the prerequisite is libbsd, I'll try to do that soon (tm) |
| 19:14.51 | tarzeau | :) |
| 19:48.02 | Supaplex | hummm no strace *sniff* |
| 19:48.12 | tarzeau | there's another one |
| 19:48.19 | Supaplex | truss? |
| 19:48.26 | tarzeau | no no , wait |
| 19:48.38 | tarzeau | ktrace |
| 19:48.46 | Supaplex | ahhh k. thanks |
| 19:48.48 | tarzeau | (maybe?) |
| 19:48.59 | tarzeau | truss is freebsd/solaris |
| 19:49.16 | Supaplex | df: cannot read table of mounted file systems |
| 19:49.17 | tarzeau | oh and solaris has this broken "snoop" that i hated |
| 19:49.20 | tarzeau | ouch |
| 19:51.28 | Supaplex | nothing. no strace, ktrace, snoop or truss. |
| 19:51.47 | Supaplex | apt-cache search didn't offer any viable alternatives |
| 19:52.54 | tarzeau | i have ktrace |
| 19:53.05 | tarzeau | freebsd-hackedutils: /usr/bin/ktrace |
| 19:53.12 | Supaplex | ouuu |
| 19:53.23 | tarzeau | don't get irritated by the pkg name |
| 19:54.54 | Supaplex | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 11 12:28 /etc/mtab |
| 19:55.00 | Supaplex | ha |
| 19:59.17 | tarzeau | hehe |
| 20:24.46 | Supaplex | so has anyone ran kfreebsd chrooted on a freebsd 5.4-release box? |
| 20:25.25 | tarzeau | jailed you mean? |
| 20:25.31 | Supaplex | either |
| 20:43.28 | nyu | Supaplex: mount /proc, and link /etc/mtab to /proc/mounted |
| 20:43.43 | nyu | (-t linprocfs) |
| 21:00.44 | Supaplex | yea, I did that already. :) thanks |
| 21:02.29 | nyu | you might have some issues when running an unpatched kernel |
| 21:02.37 | nyu | devfs permissions and such. check our patchset |
| 21:02.40 | nyu | good nite! |
| 21:03.10 | KiBi | 'Night. |
| 21:03.30 | Supaplex | libc throws a tls storage error last I recall. I rsynced it to one of my bsd machines running 5.4-stable. |
| 21:03.37 | Supaplex | night nyu |
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| 22:35.30 | KiBi | aurel32: http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=23 <-- encoding troubles on this page AFAIUI. |
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| 23:05.32 | KiBi | Is there a real need to upgrade to 6.* kernel or is 5.4 good enough to work with? |
| 23:16.01 | tarzeau | KiBi: i've had troubles with 5.4 running several weeks long |
| 23:16.05 | tarzeau | some process number limit |
| 23:16.15 | tarzeau | that's the only problem that i know of. maybe wobin_ knows some more |
| 23:16.21 | KiBi | tarzeau: OK, that won't be a problem there (at least right now) |
| 23:16.25 | tarzeau | check the bts, there's some more problems |
| 23:17.16 | KiBi | I'll see without upgrading, so that I can wait a bit for pending packages which need to be uploaded, IIRC what has be said this afternoon. |
| 23:23.14 | KiBi | Thanks again, BTW :-) |
| 23:23.39 | KiBi | MAIS EUH |
| 23:24.33 | KiBi | Hmmm, looks like I got some focus trouble :-s |