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| 06:42.30 | tarzeau | is there a newer ging/kfreebsd installer? |
| 06:42.38 | tarzeau | what's better for rescue ging or the installer? |
| 06:43.57 | tarzeau | guess i'll try the 2-apr-2006 installer |
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| 09:02.53 | azeem | aurel32: I've fixed the Failed information on buildd.net |
| 09:03.02 | azeem | for hurd-i386, at least |
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| 09:14.50 | sengun | aurel32: there? |
| 09:14.54 | sengun | aurel32: the live cd doesn't have mount |
| 09:15.07 | sengun | s,live,install, |
| 09:22.56 | tarzeau | if someone could help me , is it possible with the install cd? |
| 09:40.51 | aurel32 | azeem: how ? You had a backup ? I am sorry I haven't found time to look at that |
| 09:41.03 | aurel32 | tarzeau: you mean ging ? |
| 09:41.14 | aurel32 | tarzeau: I used it the other day, and it had mount |
| 09:41.27 | aurel32 | tarzeau: but I think that there is something strange |
| 09:41.32 | azeem | aurel32: I ran --export foo; then did s/Old-Failed/Failed/ on it and removed the two lines with HASH, then --import foo |
| 09:41.56 | azeem | aurel32: that didn't bring back the packages in state Building, but that is not so important |
| 09:41.58 | aurel32 | tarzeau: if I remember correctly you have to use mount.ufs or something like that |
| 09:42.19 | aurel32 | azeem: oh, so the informations where not lost? |
| 09:42.29 | aurel32 | azeem: just at the wrong place |
| 09:42.33 | azeem | aurel32: yes |
| 09:42.49 | aurel32 | azeem: nice to know, maybe I should do a script to automate that |
| 09:43.05 | azeem | aurel32: if you check buildd.net for a particular package, you still see the full entry |
| 09:43.09 | aurel32 | azeem: what's the problem with the packages in state Building |
| 09:43.10 | aurel32 | ? |
| 09:43.14 | azeem | including the Old reasons |
| 09:43.20 | azeem | aurel32: they all got reset |
| 09:43.25 | azeem | at least for me |
| 09:43.34 | tarzeau | aurel32: i meant the install cd, not ging |
| 09:43.46 | tarzeau | do you know the path of mount.ufs ? |
| 09:43.49 | azeem | I had a couple of hundred in state building, because I was slacking with processing failed build lgos |
| 09:43.55 | tarzeau | i'll retry afternoon |
| 09:44.37 | aurel32 | tarzeau: it was not with the install cd, but with ging |
| 09:44.57 | aurel32 | tarzeau: I am not sure you will find mount on the install cd |
| 09:50.29 | aurel32 | azeem: it seems also for me some packages are getting rebuilt from time to time |
| 09:51.02 | aurel32 | azeem: but as my build daemons are fast, this is not really a problem, and this even build some packages that were not buildable before |
| 09:51.12 | aurel32 | anyway, I would like to know the problem to fix it |
| 09:51.22 | aurel32 | I will try to have a look at transaction.log |
| 10:21.00 | azeem | aurel32: is outward mail from farad working? I tried to mail myself the w-b dump earlier |
| 10:35.14 | aurel32 | azeem: theoretically yes |
| 10:35.30 | azeem | can you check the mailq whether it is still in there? |
| 10:35.38 | aurel32 | azeem: I am going to eat right now, I will have a look later |
| 10:35.45 | azeem | I don't use `mail' often so probably I goofed up |
| 10:35.48 | azeem | aurel32: sure, np |
| 10:36.53 | aurel32 | found |
| 10:36.54 | aurel32 | 2006-08-21 11:09:30 1GF5lr-0005Lq-I7 ** mbanck@debian.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host master.debian.org [70.103.162.30]: 550 improper use of 8-bit data in message header: message rejected |
| 10:36.58 | aurel32 | 2006-08-21 11:09:30 1GF5mk-0006pl-LT <= <> R=1GF5lr-0005Lq-I7 U=Debian-exim P=local S=107982 |
| 10:37.01 | aurel32 | I will have a closer look later |
| 10:37.06 | aurel32 | otherwise, you can use scp |
| 10:37.11 | aurel32 | or ~/public_html |
| 10:38.03 | azeem | ok, no proble |
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| 13:46.06 | tarzeau | i'm getting ging instead |
| 14:52.17 | tarzeau | aurel32: ping |
| 15:00.22 | aurel32 | pong |
| 15:00.25 | aurel32 | tarzeau: pong |
| 15:02.49 | tarzeau | ahm.. the emacs.app developer is not debian/debian-nm, but he'd like to fix worst bugs in emacs.app on linux (debian) |
| 15:03.07 | tarzeau | it's adrian robert, a fine guy living in the us, developping emacs.app on mac os x |
| 15:03.23 | tarzeau | http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:03.27 | tarzeau | do you think he can? |
| 15:03.56 | tarzeau | i make debian packages of emacs.app |
| 15:08.47 | aurel32 | to fix bugs on linux on a kfreebsd machine ? |
| 15:08.55 | aurel32 | note that emacs does not work currently on kfreebsd |
| 15:09.49 | tarzeau | it works, but emacs.app is a large piece of software, and he as a developer will see what's different to his usual mac os x emacs.app |
| 15:09.56 | tarzeau | and thus be able to fix them |
| 15:10.07 | tarzeau | i talk emacs.app (the gnustep emacs) |
| 15:10.33 | tarzeau | i've made packages since version 8.x (emacs 20.x), and we're at 9.x now (emacs 23.x cvs based) |
| 15:10.43 | tarzeau | and they work (i've got screenshots) |
| 15:10.59 | tarzeau | but it's fine, i can provide him a linux shell to |
| 15:11.01 | tarzeau | too |
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| 15:17.20 | aurel32 | well if it is to make emacs.app work on GNU/kFreeBSD, yes that's possible |
| 15:20.05 | tarzeau | it already works, but to improve it.. |
| 15:20.20 | tarzeau | i'll send you an email about it tonight i guess (citating his email) |
| 15:26.18 | tarzeau | aurel32: were you able to test opencubicplayer on your kfreebsd computer with sound? |
| 16:06.11 | tarzeau | aurel32: it's really an ESS183x |
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| 16:21.31 | tarzeau | aurel32: sound works with snd_ess i tried using my own modplugplay player from xmms-modplug |
| 16:21.35 | tarzeau | ocp don't cut it |
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| 18:00.57 | aurel32 | tarzeau: oh, sorry I have forget to test |
| 18:01.04 | aurel32 | tarzeau: and thanks for io.debian.net |
| 18:01.06 | aurel32 | it works again! |
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| 18:24.06 | aurel32 | tarzeau: ocp does not seems to work :( |
| 18:25.11 | tarzeau | aurel32: you've got mail |
| 18:25.23 | tarzeau | aurel32: yep, i've had the same conclusion on io |
| 18:25.23 | aurel32 | tarzeau: not yet |
| 18:25.33 | aurel32 | so the soundcard is working on io ? |
| 18:25.40 | tarzeau | yes, i've tested with modplugplay |
| 18:25.48 | tarzeau | (package xmms-modplug) |
| 18:26.01 | aurel32 | I have just tried on my machine with madplayer |
| 18:26.18 | tarzeau | i think stian could make it work |
| 18:26.25 | tarzeau | he has done the whole ocp port to linux |
| 18:26.51 | tarzeau | and he also fixed cdrom play, added some more sound types (adlib, ogg) |
| 18:26.56 | tarzeau | removed quite alot of assembly (to make it more portable for the future) |
| 18:27.08 | tarzeau | i know, they are not debian people |
| 18:27.24 | tarzeau | http://stian.lunafish.org/coding-ocp.php |
| 18:27.29 | tarzeau | but both have links to the debian packages |
| 18:27.57 | tarzeau | i've gotten several p3 650 mhz machines with 512mb memory |
| 18:28.02 | tarzeau | (from our old student rooms) |
| 18:28.13 | tarzeau | i should probably take them from our grave and put gnu/kfreebsd on it |
| 18:28.35 | tarzeau | the thing is, as an eth employee i'm not allowed to make accounts for things like this, but it's ok on io, via the "it's for debian" |
| 18:29.54 | tarzeau | he's in #ocp btw |
| 18:30.38 | aurel32 | you mean it's not possible to make accounts for debian people on them, just as on io.debian.net? |
| 18:31.26 | tarzeau | yes it is |
| 18:31.38 | tarzeau | if it's for software development and debian, it's fine |
| 18:31.50 | tarzeau | we are just not allowed to make a general public shell server |
| 18:32.07 | tarzeau | but the emacs/ocp guys do nothing else but port/fix bugs in their software |
| 18:32.32 | tarzeau | btw you still have plans to visit zurich some day? |
| 18:34.03 | aurel32 | yes, but it's hard to find some days to come |
| 18:34.10 | aurel32 | I still have a machine to replace io.d.n |
| 18:34.15 | aurel32 | so I don't know when |
| 18:34.21 | aurel32 | but it is still in my plans |
| 18:34.36 | tarzeau | sounds good, whenever it fits your calendar |
| 18:35.21 | tarzeau | was there any work done on d-i for gnu/kbsd? |
| 18:35.38 | tarzeau | oh i remember i wanted to install grub on it. would grub2 work too? |
| 18:36.14 | tarzeau | aurel32: we've got plenty 10gb disks here, if you want i can stuff some of those into io (or the next machine) |
| 18:36.17 | tarzeau | (including memory too) |
| 18:36.33 | aurel32 | otavio and nyu have started to work on d-i |
| 18:36.43 | aurel32 | tarzeau: memory will probably be nice |
| 18:36.50 | aurel32 | tarzeau: io only have 256 MB |
| 18:37.05 | tarzeau | yep i noticed, i'll check what slots are free, and what i can stuff in |
| 18:37.10 | aurel32 | tarzeau: it uses SD-RAM memory |
| 18:37.20 | aurel32 | all are used if i remember correctly |
| 18:37.26 | tarzeau | 3 slots? |
| 18:37.28 | aurel32 | 64 + 64 + 128 I think |
| 18:37.43 | aurel32 | let's have a look |
| 18:39.33 | aurel32 | dmidecode says 3 * 64 |
| 18:39.38 | aurel32 | which seems to be wrong |
| 18:40.25 | aurel32 | for disks, it already has 8.4 + 40 GB I think |
| 18:40.32 | aurel32 | so that should be ok |
| 18:40.50 | tarzeau | true, but wait i think i've got also larger ones... a bit noisy, but it won't disturb anyone where it is... |
| 18:40.52 | aurel32 | when you say you have some memory, is it SDRAM ? |
| 18:40.57 | tarzeau | yep sdram |
| 18:41.11 | aurel32 | ok, the motherboard I have here also has SDRAM |
| 18:41.12 | tarzeau | i think i can make it at least 512 easily |
| 18:41.20 | aurel32 | it is an athlon 1200 |
| 18:41.26 | tarzeau | because we've got 30 or so computers in the grave |
| 18:41.32 | aurel32 | wow |
| 18:41.36 | tarzeau | i'll just pick the ones with most memory :) |
| 18:41.53 | aurel32 | maybe it is possible to put a build daemon on one of them? |
| 18:42.11 | tarzeau | id just have to install gnu/kfreebsd on one? |
| 18:42.39 | aurel32 | yes |
| 18:42.50 | tarzeau | now that i have actual install and live cds... |
| 18:42.52 | aurel32 | but it would probably need two 10 GB disks |
| 18:42.55 | tarzeau | that's an easy task |
| 18:42.58 | aurel32 | one for the system |
| 18:43.03 | aurel32 | and one for the chroots |
| 18:43.06 | tarzeau | i can stuff 3 10gb disks into it (or actually a larger noisy one) |
| 18:43.16 | aurel32 | 2 should be ok for a build daemon |
| 18:43.35 | tarzeau | k i'll see what i can do, i'm not there on wednesday, the rest is fine |
| 18:43.41 | aurel32 | that way, we could have full redundancy for the build daemon |
| 18:43.44 | tarzeau | btw do you know you've got access to scientific papers? |
| 18:43.48 | tarzeau | (from io on?) |
| 18:44.00 | aurel32 | there is nothing urgent! |
| 18:44.08 | tarzeau | http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/news/1127209769/index_html |
| 18:44.15 | tarzeau | using that proxy ;) (i didn't tell you ;) |
| 18:44.20 | aurel32 | tarzeau: I also have access from work, but maybe not the same |
| 18:44.31 | tarzeau | probably alot of other debian people don't |
| 18:44.38 | aurel32 | tarzeau: thanks for the info |
| 18:44.51 | tarzeau | you might find other interesting stuff at http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/news/older_stuff |
| 18:45.08 | tarzeau | aurel32: you do backup of io? |
| 18:45.34 | aurel32 | tarzeau: not really regularly, but about once every two/three weeks |
| 18:46.27 | aurel32 | there are two scripts in my home |
| 18:56.55 | tarzeau | OMG |
| 18:57.06 | tarzeau | god helps me, i've got an amulet of life saving |
| 18:57.19 | tarzeau | and then the first random wand is a digging one, two red ants were chasing me |
| 18:57.28 | tarzeau | then a bunch of well armored dwarfs |
| 18:57.36 | tarzeau | gnome town is in dlvl:8 |
| 18:59.59 | CIA-14 | 03ps-guest * r1641 10/trunk/web/patches/xawtv.diff: * update xawtv.diff against 3.95-1, btw maintainer is now QA Group |
| 19:17.08 | tarzeau | http://io.debian.net/~tar/ocp.txt |
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