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| 07:29.36 | tarzeau | damn must give away the gnu.ethz.ch :( |
| 07:33.52 | braindmg | why? |
| 08:23.32 | tarzeau | machine was needed for someone, since the others machine broke |
| 08:23.53 | tarzeau | aurel32: |
| 08:24.01 | tarzeau | aurel32: could you not run a freebsd mirror on io? |
| 08:24.11 | tarzeau | debian gnu/kfreebsd mirror i mean of gnuab? |
| 08:26.11 | tarzeau | aurel: i'm always having disk space problems, you mind i run all my debian packaging on io? (when i wanted to rsync the stuff on gnu, it was about 2gb) |
| 08:27.52 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1178 10/trunk/freebsd6-buildutils/debian/ (changelog control patches/06_ftbfs_gcc-4.0.diff rules): |
| 08:27.52 | CIA-12 | * Fixes runtime getopt parsing infin loop. |
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| 08:43.45 | aurel32 | tarzeau: I am a bit worried by running such a mirror on the current hardware |
| 08:44.11 | aurel32 | tarzeau: when ging was released, we've got some load problems |
| 08:44.37 | aurel32 | tarzeau: but, I have already told you that I have some new hardware at home, then it would be possible to run a mirror |
| 08:45.17 | aurel32 | tarzeau: is it possible to come to Zürich to exchange the hardware? |
| 08:45.41 | aurel32 | tarzeau: and also would it be possible to host a second machine (the second buildd)? |
| 08:46.06 | aurel32 | tarzeau: as for packaging, no problem to do it on io as long as there is enough disk space |
| 08:46.21 | tarzeau | aurel32: you will come to zurich? that's fine |
| 08:46.45 | aurel32 | tarzeau: well I don't know when, but if possible, that would be nice |
| 08:46.47 | tarzeau | aurel32: i'm not sure about a 2nd buildd, but why don't we arrange some noon or 15/16oclock tea with my boss |
| 08:47.16 | tarzeau | where we can talk this, certainly it's possible to put the newer better hardware there, and remove the old, from the space from my point of view it's fine to have both... |
| 08:47.35 | tarzeau | aurel32: keep me updated, i will move my stuff there... then |
| 08:47.46 | tarzeau | aurel32: the mirror is not big, and it's just disk i/o |
| 08:47.48 | aurel32 | yes, that should be possible to meet your boss |
| 08:47.57 | tarzeau | not that many people use gnu/kfreebsd that it could be an issue |
| 08:48.08 | tarzeau | aurel32: can you tell me approximetaly which month? |
| 08:48.13 | aurel32 | yes, so we could try and see the consequences |
| 08:48.33 | tarzeau | fantastic! |
| 08:48.48 | aurel32 | but if the debian developers are trying to use the machine, and see it takes age to build their package, that won't help the GNU/kFreeBSD port |
| 08:48.55 | tarzeau | true |
| 08:48.56 | aurel32 | tarzeau: probably in March |
| 08:49.09 | tarzeau | that's soon |
| 08:49.10 | aurel32 | tarzeau: well, end of March |
| 08:50.02 | aurel32 | tarzeau: but if it is not possible to host a second machine, I may have other places to host it |
| 08:50.36 | tarzeau | ok i will check that and tell you |
| 08:51.29 | aurel32 | tarzeau: also I have something to ask you about machine hosting |
| 08:51.38 | tarzeau | go ahead |
| 08:51.51 | aurel32 | tarzeau: I have found a place to host machines in Lyon, just a few minutes from here |
| 08:52.48 | aurel32 | but the admin (well his boss) wanted to have some kind of experience about the problems encountered while hosting a debian machine |
| 08:53.26 | aurel32 | I mean security problem, how much load it gives to the local admin |
| 08:53.26 | tarzeau | since when do we host io? i could check.. but generally there's no problem at all, well maybe a manual reboot/fsck once every 3 months |
| 08:53.35 | tarzeau | no security problems so far |
| 08:54.19 | tarzeau | feel free to give him my business email address to inquiry me |
| 08:54.38 | aurel32 | ok, I will do, thanks |
| 08:54.42 | tarzeau | debian.org wants at least 2 machines for an architecture buildd, right? |
| 08:54.49 | aurel32 | right |
| 08:54.53 | tarzeau | you run two already... |
| 08:55.13 | aurel32 | well the hosting is for another machine |
| 08:55.16 | aurel32 | a sparc |
| 08:55.26 | aurel32 | that will probably be donated to the project |
| 08:55.30 | tarzeau | i see |
| 08:55.40 | aurel32 | and maybe future other machines |
| 08:56.02 | tarzeau | isn't there enough of them already? |
| 08:56.11 | tarzeau | i've also got an alpha,hppa,mips and several sparcs... |
| 08:56.28 | tarzeau | but bringing them to zurich from home would be near to impossible by train |
| 08:56.37 | tarzeau | the alpha's pretty large furniture |
| 08:56.44 | tarzeau | what sparc is that? |
| 08:57.06 | aurel32 | well the sparc buildd and porting machine have some problems, they sometimes go offline |
| 08:57.16 | nyu | isn't there a mirror in the same network? |
| 08:57.19 | aurel32 | we still don't know exactly, it is any 1U recent sparc |
| 08:57.19 | nyu | "gnu" ? |
| 08:57.29 | aurel32 | s/any/an/ |
| 08:57.36 | aurel32 | probably SMP |
| 09:00.45 | nyu | amazing. we have glibc 2.3.6 before linux-i386 =) |
| 09:01.01 | nyu | hope it doesn't break anything |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1179 10/trunk/libbsd/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-12 | Add reset_getopt (borrowed from e2fsprogs). |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-12 | * reset_getopt.c: New. |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-12 | * Versions: Add reset_getopt. |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-12 | * Makefile: Add reset_getopt.c. |
| 09:02.20 | CIA-12 | * debian/copyright: Add license (GPL). |
| 09:03.11 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1180 10/trunk/freebsd6-buildutils/debian/ (changelog patches/11_optreset.diff): patches/11_optreset.diff: New. Replace unportable optreset mangling with reset_getopt () from libbsd. |
| 09:04.11 | aurel32 | nyu: yes, the i386 build daemon was down |
| 09:04.26 | aurel32 | nyu: well I am using it for 4 or 5 day without problem |
| 09:04.37 | nyu | I see |
| 09:04.49 | nyu | hopefuly freebsd make works now |
| 09:05.48 | tarzeau | aurel32: when kfreebsd is mirrored on all debian mirrors, we'll have one automatically |
| 09:06.17 | nyu | tarzeau: it's in ftp.de.debian.org already |
| 09:06.36 | tarzeau | nyu: and ftp.ch.debian.org ? |
| 09:06.54 | tarzeau | we mirror from .no mirror |
| 09:07.05 | tarzeau | if you can get it onto the .no mirror, .ch will ahve it too :) |
| 09:09.23 | nyu | tarzeau: ask em ;) |
| 09:09.38 | nyu | you can say .de already has it |
| 09:14.00 | tarzeau | i am... what they need to do to get the stuff mirrored exactly? |
| 09:17.02 | nyu | just mirror http://kfreebsd-gnu.debian.net/debian-kfreebsd |
| 09:17.21 | tarzeau | nyu: same place official debian stuff or different directory? |
| 09:17.27 | tarzeau | just like i did on gnu? |
| 09:17.42 | nyu | it doesn't really matter. /debian-kfreebsd is fine i think |
| 09:17.50 | nyu | as for suites, unstable at least |
| 09:18.00 | nyu | i'm not sure if mirroring unreleased would be a good idea |
| 09:26.33 | tarzeau | someone should get it onto slashdot! maybe with the new kernels...? |
| 09:28.23 | nyu | i already tried |
| 09:28.27 | nyu | several times |
| 09:28.46 | nyu | i think kfreebsd 6.x will be ready soon. i've been making progress |
| 09:28.55 | nyu | will you give /. a try? |
| 09:29.18 | tarzeau | sure, can you not when you try put the text with html somewhere online, so others can just copy paste (as much people as possible) |
| 09:29.43 | nyu | yes, but i don't have anything now |
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| 12:04.11 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1181 10/trunk/freebsd6-buildutils/ (fetch src-dirs): Add fetch script like the one in kfreebsd-6. |
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| 12:22.12 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1182 10/trunk/freebsd6-buildutils/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:22.12 | CIA-12 | * Our awk wasn't actualy from FreeBSD, but imported from original-awk. |
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| 12:48.48 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1183 10/trunk/freebsd6-buildutils/debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:48.48 | CIA-12 | * Add gmake (as alias for gnu make). |
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| 13:45.39 | nyu | any idea how to tell the kernel that when a process segfaults it dumps its core? |
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| 14:28.33 | tarzeau | ulimit |
| 14:28.37 | tarzeau | ? |
| 14:28.48 | tarzeau | it's only different on the hurd |
| 14:35.22 | nyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.25 | nyu | not very helpful |
| 14:35.47 | nyu | kern.coredump sysctl is supposed to do it |
| 14:35.55 | nyu | but it's set to 1, and still no core dumps |
| 15:03.49 | nyu | oh, good |
| 15:03.54 | nyu | I found why make segfaults |
| 15:04.14 | nyu | it was _gnu_ make |
| 15:04.55 | nyu | mangling the MAKE variable in a cross (gnu->bsd) make environment turns out to be a very bad idea |
| 15:17.18 | nyu | no, that wasn't it |
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| 18:24.41 | tarzeau | should i file a bugreport on amsn? |
| 18:24.47 | tarzeau | on kfreebsd i get: Picture.tcl: TkCximage not loaded |
| 18:25.19 | tarzeau | gonna try to fix links2 now... |
| 18:28.34 | tarzeau | nyu: but the links2 problem is not gnu/kfreebsd specific |
| 18:28.41 | tarzeau | nyu: it doesn't even work on debian gnu/linux |
| 18:29.05 | nyu | tarzeau: if you don't have a fix, a bug report doesn't help much |
| 18:29.07 | tarzeau | http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=&pkg=links2 |
| 18:29.16 | tarzeau | here can you compare the -3 and -2 reports configure output |
| 18:29.22 | tarzeau | for which graphic backends it compiles? |
| 18:29.30 | tarzeau | i'm looking for the fix |
| 18:29.32 | nyu | and because amsn is written in tcl/tk, nobody wants to debug it ;) |
| 18:29.48 | tarzeau | the bug was caused by the x lib splitup transition crap |
| 18:30.11 | tarzeau | damn, i can't even use MSN on kfreebsd! |
| 18:42.07 | nyu | tarzeau: gaim |
| 18:50.37 | tarzeau | i hate gaim |
| 18:51.40 | nyu | kopete? |
| 18:51.59 | nyu | kmess? |
| 18:52.05 | nyu | apt-cache search msn ? :P |
| 18:52.11 | spb | bitlbee? |
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| 20:12.31 | nyu | okay, this is the Nth time i think freebsd 6.0 make works, for a very high value of N |
| 20:12.42 | nyu | but i won't say it works this time. ;) |
| 20:12.50 | nyu | let's wait till the build finishes |
| 20:25.26 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1185 10/trunk/libbsd/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Revert r1179 (will use bsd_getopt() wrapper instead). |
| 20:45.15 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1186 10/trunk/libbsd/include/bsd/queue.h: Use the same macro (_SYS_QUEUE_H) as <sys/queue.h> for header protection. This prevents collisions. |
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| 20:56.50 | CIA-12 | 03rmh * r1187 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Implement bsd_getopt in libbsd, and use it in freebsd6-buildutils (for make). |
| 21:11.02 | nyu | ok. make works now |
| 21:11.05 | nyu | *really* |
| 21:11.27 | nyu | i hit another bug (broken asm) |
| 21:11.43 | braindmg | nyu: hey dude can you stop messing with libbsd? =P |
| 21:11.56 | nyu | braindmg: ok |
| 21:12.02 | braindmg | (I was sleeping, so I'll go back there...) |
| 21:12.15 | nyu | it's in shape for freebsd6-buildutils now |
| 21:12.54 | braindmg | the macro protection is a hack |
| 21:13.02 | braindmg | you should not depend on it being the same |
| 21:13.02 | nyu | uhm |
| 21:13.06 | nyu | the one in bsd/queue.h ? |
| 21:13.12 | braindmg | yah just saw it now |
| 21:13.28 | nyu | well, that's not critical |
| 21:13.32 | braindmg | the proper fix is to conditionally define any macro, but that may make the others inconsistent |
| 21:13.40 | braindmg | or undef everything then redefine |
| 21:14.15 | braindmg | anyway I'll check tomorrow... |
| 21:14.16 | nyu | it works for freebsd6-buildutils both in r1186 and before |
| 21:14.21 | braindmg | night |
| 21:14.29 | nyu | so it doesn't really matter.. revert if you don't like it |
| 21:14.46 | braindmg | nyu: I'm concerned about your changed after uploading to unstable ;) |
| 21:14.56 | nyu | if you change more stuff please be careful not to break freebsd6-buildutils |
| 21:15.05 | nyu | which changes? |
| 21:15.09 | braindmg | anyway no worries, I need sleep, we talk tomorrow |
| 21:15.13 | nyu | ok |
| 21:15.16 | nyu | good nite braindmg |
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