| 00:08.50 | stickster | hm, everyone leaves before I get back to say hi :-\ |
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| 02:22.25 | IrishW0lf | js,o |
| 02:23.06 | IrishW0lf | jsmith: howdy. the info on dd that you gave me worked great, thanks |
| 02:23.19 | jsmith | I'm glad that helped |
| 02:23.43 | IrishW0lf | another piece of the puzzle |
| 02:24.45 | IrishW0lf | where's plarsen? he's been away along time |
| 02:25.04 | IrishW0lf | lol on your last 50,000 piece puzzle |
| 02:26.06 | IrishW0lf | ok, next query |
| 02:26.44 | IrishW0lf | i just put into service a west dig 120 gb external usb drive |
| 02:27.21 | IrishW0lf | it is formated in fat32 but does not spin up fully on my laptop |
| 02:28.01 | IrishW0lf | laptop is running os suse10.2 with usb 2.0 |
| 02:28.47 | IrishW0lf | the wd drive works under suse on my desktop but will not work with a usb hub or my laptop |
| 02:28.54 | IrishW0lf | any thoughts? |
| 02:47.31 | plarsen | IrishW0lf: you need to provide more info than that; "not work" means? |
| 02:51.06 | IrishW0lf | plarsen: the drive does not spin up fully to be recognized. it starts to spinup then stops and then starts again, etc. |
| 02:52.17 | IrishW0lf | it appears to not get enough power to completely spinup |
| 02:52.30 | jsmith | Is your USB hub powered or non-powered? |
| 02:52.52 | IrishW0lf | it can be both, right now non-powered |
| 02:52.59 | jsmith | It's *very* possible that it's not getting enough power. |
| 02:53.00 | plarsen | IrishW0lf: what does dmesg say? Any messagfes? |
| 02:53.29 | IrishW0lf | good question, didn't look, but i will |
| 02:53.30 | jsmith | If you're running a modern kernel, it may complain that the USB device is drawing too much power, and disable the device. |
| 02:53.43 | jsmith | You can override that, but I don't remember how right now |
| 02:54.24 | IrishW0lf | ok, but why just on the laptop or the non-powered usb hub? |
| 02:55.56 | plarsen | computers are different; some have bigger PSUs and some uses different electronics to make the USB work. So while one computer might provide enough power, others might not. |
| 02:56.53 | jsmith | Right... and newer kernels will disable USB devices that draw too much power, while older kernels won't. |
| 02:57.44 | plarsen | As a general rules, laptops don't have too much spare power capacity to save on consumption and give longer battery life. |
| 03:00.42 | plarsen | jsmith: did you say you had used NIS ? |
| 03:01.06 | jsmith | I assert that I may or may not have used NIS. |
| 03:01.15 | jsmith | I try not to admit to past sins :-) |
| 03:01.27 | plarsen | lol |
| 03:01.32 | jsmith | So no, I don't know anything about NIS... why? |
| 03:01.33 | plarsen | What would you use today? |
| 03:01.52 | jsmith | Honestly, it would depend on the circumstances |
| 03:01.54 | plarsen | Got it "sorta" working. Except it won't find the UID |
| 03:03.51 | plarsen | My background in Oracle |
| 03:03.51 | plarsen | Oracle and Linux |
| 03:03.51 | plarsen | Major Features |
| 03:03.51 | plarsen | The good and the bad |
| 03:04.10 | plarsen | huh? |
| 03:04.15 | plarsen | I didn't write that last line ;) |
| 03:04.50 | plarsen | I'm able to login using a NIS account, but I have no ID: id: cannot find name for user ID 1000 |
| 03:04.59 | plarsen | so somehow the lookup from ID to name fails. |
| 03:05.05 | plarsen | But no error messages :( |
| 03:06.30 | IrishW0lf | jsmith: dmesg doesn't complain abt too much power just shows "new high speed usb device using ehc1_hcd and address 4" and then same with address 5, etc. |
| 03:07.54 | jsmith | IrishW0lf: Interesting... not sure what to tell you then |
| 03:08.01 | jsmith | IrishW0lf: I'd try a powered USB hub first |
| 03:08.27 | IrishW0lf | good idea, i'll give that a try |
| 03:08.56 | IrishW0lf | get back to you |
| 03:12.46 | IrishW0lf | jsmith: yep that worked |
| 03:13.29 | jsmith | woo hoo! |
| 03:14.20 | IrishW0lf | laptop must be under powered, old, feeble, lol |
| 03:14.38 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 03:23.17 | IrishW0lf | well, now that we have that problem solved, i have to leave. Thanks, guy's... |
| 03:23.28 | jsmith | Have a great night! |
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| 16:52.14 | jsmith | OK, so I'm getting ready to do a bunch of Cat5 cabling in my house |
| 16:52.25 | jsmith | Anybody know of a good place to get it locally? |
| 16:52.38 | jsmith | I'd rather not pay Home Depot $135 for a spool. |
| 16:53.00 | jsmith | I'll also need a bunch of keystone jacks and wall plates |
| 16:53.16 | jsmith | (and the selection at both Home Depot and Lowe's was atrocious) |
| 17:00.07 | stickster | Mmm, no idea |
| 17:00.17 | stickster | My house was built before I was concerned with such things :-\ |
| 17:00.40 | stickster | If I end up moving, I'll surely be looking at the same thing though :-) |
| 17:01.46 | jsmith | Maybe I'll post to the mailing list and ask them. |
| 17:25.21 | jsmith | stickster_work: Can I bother you for an SELinux question? |
| 17:32.08 | stickster_work | jsmith: Sorry, just back at desk -- shoot |
| 17:33.27 | jsmith | OK, so I'm trying to serve up a couple of files via TFTP |
| 17:33.33 | jsmith | Getting this in /var/log/messages |
| 17:33.35 | jsmith | May 7 13:25:39 localhost kernel: audit(1178558739.685:2770): avc: denied { read } for pid=25918 comm="in.tftpd" name="000e08dbfeeb.cfg" dev=dm-3 ino=31096921 scontext=root:system_r:tftpd_t:s0 tcontext=root:object_r:user_home_t:s0 tclass=file |
| 17:33.54 | jsmith | How do I relabel the files to make SELinux happy? |
| 17:35.06 | stickster_work | jsmith: Is this (are these) files that you've copied to /tftpboot ? |
| 17:35.12 | jsmith | Yes. |
| 17:35.14 | stickster_work | Ah |
| 17:35.19 | jsmith | They're created by another program, and then copied there |
| 17:35.35 | stickster_work | The good thing is that SELinux has a utility to relabel files automagically without you having to know the label. |
| 17:35.56 | stickster_work | fixfiles -F relabel <location> |
| 17:36.01 | stickster_work | sorry, that's /sbin/fixfiles |
| 17:36.08 | jsmith | Oh, I didn't know that. |
| 17:36.13 | jsmith | Very handy :-) |
| 17:36.14 | stickster_work | Cool, huh? |
| 17:36.17 | jsmith | See why I hang out in here? |
| 17:36.20 | stickster_work | :-D |
| 17:36.42 | stickster_work | I learned enough to fix my 5-6 most common problems |
| 17:37.05 | stickster_work | There's an SELinux symposium annually in B'more that a bunch of the developers go to, but it includes great tracks for users/admins |
| 17:37.29 | stickster_work | i.e. "Intro to SELinux," "How Do I Work SELinux?", "Please Help Me, SELinux Ate My Homework," etc. |
| 17:37.42 | stickster_work | One of these days I gotta get up there for it |
| 17:39.09 | stickster_work | Problem #1. Not updated for FC6 (or F7 at this point) |
| 17:39.43 | jsmith | My problem with FDP is that they haven't pushed the FOP-on-gjc folks with a shark enough stick |
| 17:40.08 | jsmith | (once again, the bureaucracy of the Apache folks getting in the way of real work) |
| 17:40.12 | stickster_work | Funny, Karsten thinks all the poking is why the Java developers don't talk to him much anymore :-D |
| 17:40.48 | stickster_work | jsmith: You should /j us at #fedora-docs if only to lurk |
| 17:41.01 | stickster_work | No commitment required and I promise not to call you out ;-) |
| 17:41.34 | stickster_work | Ooo, there you are! You lurky devil, you |
| 17:41.58 | stickster_work | It's often quiet with sporadic slams of conversation |
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