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07:05.42floelejudas_iscariote: now we are down to 3 developers at ohloh ^^
07:09.40judas_iscariote^^
07:10.06floeleit already complains about a small development team now
07:10.46judas_iscariotefloele: as you may noticed in your email the swiftmailer error handler does weird things. I spent quite a lot of time today fighting with it before bugging the author about it.
07:10.57floeleyes, I read it
07:16.20judas_iscariotefloele: quite annoying actually, tested gazillions of ways different that the three mentioned in the email.
07:16.44judas_iscariote^^
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09:59.45floeleAlexC_?
09:59.53AlexC_morning,
10:00.03floelehi
10:00.06AlexC_hows you?
10:00.17floeleI'm quite fine :)
10:00.44AlexC_great =)
10:01.36floeleI got a question about the theme...
10:01.36floelewe have this task: http://bugs.flyspray.org/task/1134
10:02.16AlexC_oh that's great, could do with that implemented for the theme: http://www.tangocms.co.uk/bugs/
10:02.21AlexC_at the moment, the logo is hard-coded
10:02.23floeleis it somehow possible to have each project its own colour and use this at a prominent place so that you always "feel" in which project you are?
10:04.03AlexC_hum,
10:04.12AlexC_I guess it is possible, but what would change?
10:04.12floelea logo for each project might be a little complicated, since we'd have to upload and store it in some way, think about dimensions etc
10:04.26floeleI'm not the designer ;)
10:04.59AlexC_it's still very rough,
10:05.24AlexC_you could just make it so there image has to be say Xpx by Ypx big
10:07.34floelelooks quite nice so far, I can't wait to see it more evolved :)
10:08.04floelewell, maybe we can have a simple approach there
10:08.50floeleby default, the project icon is a default icon. however, if there is an image in the theme folder called projectX.png it uses this as logo, while X is the project_id
10:09.13floelethen we don't have to bother with all the complicated stuff
10:09.18AlexC_that would work well,
10:10.21AlexC_one problem I've got with FS, maybe I've messed something up - but I;m getting a lot of "[[usernameoremail]]  " instead of the real text,
10:10.53floelehm, this indicates that language strings are missing
10:11.03floeleso probably you don't have current translation files
10:11.17AlexC_ah I see, I'll try getting them from svn again,
10:11.42floelebtw, I strongly recommend to get the latest code from SVN regulary
10:12.16floeleevery now and then there are some important changes, but I try not no mess with templates too often while you develop that theme
10:13.00AlexC_mm, I've had to edit the main templates in /template because when I copied all the templates across to a sub-dir of the theme, it didn't work
10:13.12AlexC_it was still using the ones in /template
10:13.38floelehm...let me check
10:14.53floeleops, I think I gave you the wrong info...
10:15.08floeleit has to be in
10:15.17floele<PROTECTED>
10:15.27floeleso like
10:15.28floelethemes/mytheme/index.tpl
10:16.28AlexC_ohhh, you said themes/theme/templates last time :P - it would probably make it 'cleaner' if it was possible to put them in the /templates die
10:16.31AlexC_s/die/dir
10:17.01floeleI could implement it this way
10:18.47floelejust did it in fact ^^
10:19.24AlexC_cool cool,
10:19.28AlexC_is it in the svn?
10:19.33floeleyes
10:19.56AlexC_cool, I'll grab it when I get time
11:10.51\phil__why do people do s/x/y
11:10.54\phil__when its s/x/y/
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12:32.49*** topic/#flyspray is Flyspray, the bug killer !! http://www.flyspray.org forum : http://forum.flyspray.org development blog : http://blog.flyspray.org. 0.9.9.1 has been released !!
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14:29.10Caarrie|awayFatal error: Call to a member function FetchRow() on a non-object in /home/vol2/byethost3.com/b3_208039/bluedoglov.byethost3.com/htdocs/flyspray/setup/upgrade/1.0.0/upgrade_prefix.php on line 6
14:30.01floelelooks like a db query has gone wrong ;)
14:30.25Caarrie|awayi got that error on both my installs
14:30.26floeledid I already tell you about $db->debug = true ?
14:30.34Caarrie|awayi dont remember
14:30.50Rolenun_I knew it! she is here!
14:31.03Caarrie|awayi only have a few minutes then i got to run again :S
14:31.14floeleadd it after
14:31.14floele$db = NewDatabase($conf['database']);
14:31.14floelein
14:31.14floeleupgrade.php
14:31.25floele$db->debug = true;
14:32.14Caarrie|away(mysqli): SELECT pref_name, pref_value FROM `flyspray_prefs`  
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14:33.37Caarrie|awayhttp://rafb.net/p/9iblxL13.html
14:34.44floelefor some reason it doesn't upgrade your projects table...I'll look into it
14:34.56Caarrie|awayok
14:35.41Caarrie|awayif you need more tests run just send me a query and if i have time i will try to do it and get back to you
14:35.55floeleok
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17:05.30RogerHustonHello, is there anyone here?
17:06.45RogerHuston~wake floele
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17:10.33RogerHustonI guess everyone is asleep :(
17:12.34Rolenun_I'm not, but I doubt I'll be much help :)
17:12.52RogerHustonWell, I have some basic questions.
17:12.58RogerHustonI did an install.
17:13.10RogerHustonAnd it seems like the forms do not work
17:13.19RogerHustonI think it is an .htaccess issue.
17:13.28Rolenun_which browser are you using?
17:13.35RogerHustonFF 2
17:14.22RogerHustonWhen I try and add a task, or any of the admin stuff, when I hit submit it just goes blank
17:14.31Rolenun_well, that's all I know how to do hehe. now they can read the log and see what the problem is :)
17:14.49RogerHustonOk, I will check out the forums
17:14.52Rolenun_they usually pop in and out :)
17:15.17floelehi
17:15.50Rolenun_hey floele :)
17:16.03RogerHustonOh, hello
17:16.40floeledid you already read the FAQ?
17:17.01RogerHustonI thought so, but I will go back and reread to see if I missed something
17:30.02RogerHustonOk, I deleted the .htaccess file and that seemed to work.  However, I was using the htaccess.dist that came with the package.
17:33.24RogerHustonOoops, spoke too soon.
17:33.50RogerHustonI was able to add a task, but I was trying to update my Mr. Super User accont
17:33.52RogerHustonaccount
17:34.45RogerHustonOh, now it worked.  Some times it goes to a blank page, other times it works.
17:46.12floeleRogerHuston: usually blank pages are caused by a wrong server config, because flyspray always outputs an error (at least PHP)
17:46.48RogerHustonHmmm, how would I see the error?
17:47.42RogerHustonIn IE I could say "Show Friendly Errors" or not.  I am using FF now.
17:48.12floeleif nothing turns up, then your server hides the error...
17:48.23floelecheck server logs or enable errors
17:48.45RogerHustonI am using an hosting company.
17:48.49RogerHustonOk, I will look
17:52.07RogerHustonWould you know if this was something that could be adjusted using cPanel?
17:52.39floeledon't know cPanel
18:03.12RogerHustonI guess I can't edit the php server config.
18:04.23RogerHustonDo most people use simple linux webhosting companies or do they use their own servers?
18:05.06floeleRogerHuston: that depends.
18:05.30floelewe have our own server, but most people probably have shared hosting
18:05.53RogerHustonThat is what I am trying to do.
18:06.01RogerHustonJust a basic shared hosting account.
18:06.17RogerHustonSeems like most of the Admin stuff does not work for me.
18:06.30RogerHustonEverytime I hit update it goes to a blank screen.
18:06.58floeleis URL rewriting enabled?
18:07.18RogerHustonNo.
18:07.40RogerHustonIt is set to 0 in flyspray.conf.php
18:07.54RogerHustonI tried setting it to 1, but that did not work.
18:08.13RogerHustonI also tried using the htaccess.dist
18:08.22RogerHustonbut that does not see, to do anything either.
18:08.37RogerHustonI get urls like this: http://www.consultingace.com/bugs/?do=admin&area=status
18:08.58RogerHustonwhen I put in index.php before the ?, I get the page back.
18:09.10RogerHustonbut it won't update.
18:09.29floeleso the URL above doesn't show anything?
18:10.53RogerHustonNo
18:11.00RogerHustonhttp://www.consultingace.com/bugs/?do=admin&area=tasktype
18:11.03RogerHustonBut that does.
18:11.25RogerHustonSeems like when I hit Update or Add new, that is broken.
18:12.03floelewell, then your server is most likely set up in an incorret way, but that won't help a lot
18:12.36RogerHustonWell, we are going to be putting up a lot of websites on this box.
18:12.56RogerHustonHmm, do you think that mod_rewrite is messed up?
18:13.10floeleit isn't used anyway
18:13.12RogerHustonShould it always include index.php in the link
18:14.07RogerHustonIs it normal to have /?do=pm&area=prefs&project=2 on the url line without the index.php in front of it?
18:14.23floeleit's possible
18:14.47floelemaybee your server doesn't like it
18:16.17floeleyou could try to edit the templates and add "index.php" to the action attribute o fthe form element. if that helps we'd knwo
18:16.47RogerHustonok
18:16.50RogerHustonlet me look
19:02.16RogerHustonI replaced all of the action links.
19:02.18RogerHuston<form action="index.php{$_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME']}" method="get">
19:02.25RogerHustonThat is what you mean?
19:02.32RogerHustonI tried it in all the template files.
19:02.45RogerHustonbut it still does not show on the URL line
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19:05.46RogerHustonfloele: where should I add the index.php to the action element?
19:06.11floeleform element, action attribute
19:06.34RogerHustonLine  13 -     <<form action="index.php{>$_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME']}" method="get">
19:06.40RogerHustonlike this?
19:06.58floeleyes
19:07.48RogerHustonHmmm, didn't work, still showed the URL without the index.php in front of the ?.
19:09.16RogerHustonLet me try IE again
19:09.25floelethere might be multiple form elements
19:09.36RogerHustonI replaced them in 25 files
19:09.45RogerHustonusing Search and Replace.
19:10.10floeleoh, now that you meantion it...
19:10.17floeleI don't think it's quite correct this way
19:10.32floeleyou only have to replace it where it's like
19:10.32floeleaction="?..."
19:10.46RogerHustonDid not see any of those.
19:10.46floeleif SCRIPT_NAME is already there, it is enough
19:11.14floelethen maybe SCRIPT_NAME is empty, which shouldn't be the case
19:11.50floelelet's check it
19:12.00RogerHuston$SERVER[SCRIPT_NAME]
19:12.04RogerHustonI see that.
19:12.13RogerHustonall of the "get"
19:12.19floelein index.php (root), add
19:12.20floelevar_dump($_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME']);die();
19:12.27RogerHustonok
19:12.29floeleafter <?php
19:12.37floeleand tell me what the output is
19:14.05RogerHustonstring(15) "/bugs/index.php"
19:14.09RogerHustonlooks good
19:14.16floeleyes
19:17.00RogerHustonI am using IE 7 now, I turned off "Show Friendly Errors."
19:17.19floeleI don't know about those friendly errors, never heard it
19:18.01RogerHustonIn IE, whenever you get a 404 or 500, etc it shows a built in page, rather than the generic one the server throws.
19:18.15floeleI see
19:18.16RogerHustonTurning it off allows the person to see the server error page.
19:18.53RogerHustonFYI: Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing
19:19.49RogerHustonThe more I play around with this, the more I think it is a SQL issue.
19:20.01RogerHustonI am now getting it to work about 80% of the time.
19:20.14RogerHustonWhen just a few min. ago, I wasn't working at all.
19:20.37floelemaybe SQL server is poor then
19:20.49floelebut thats nothing I can help with ;)
19:21.04RogerHustonI did get one sql server error message last night, but I only got it once.
19:21.16RogerHustonDo you write SQL errors to an error table?
19:21.26floelenope
19:21.51floeleflyspray will display them
19:24.24RogerHustonSure.
19:24.25AlexC_twas by accident, didn't mean for it to happen!
19:24.43AlexC_I killed the entire server, it was down for a few hours hehe
19:24.47AlexC_every account on there ><
19:25.04RogerHustonWell, I only saw the one error last night.  Right now, I am just adding Test OS, and things like that.  
19:25.21RogerHustonSometimes it works, some times it does not.
19:27.51RogerHustonMay I ask, should I try and use the .htaccess file.  Does it help?
19:28.17RogerHustonI still had the same errors as before, but the URL's all looked the same.
19:31.06AlexC_if you're server has support for mod_rewrite then there is no harm in using .htaccess to make clean urls
19:31.49RogerHustonWell, I know it works when I added access rights to it.  But I did not notice any difference in the display of the URLs.
19:32.46AlexC_RogerHuston: in your flyspray.conf.php make sure you have this - address_rewriting="1"
19:33.16RogerHustonChange it to 1 and use .htaccess?
19:33.21RogerHustonOk, I have to do both.
19:33.35RogerHustonThat was not clear, I will try that.
19:34.29AlexC_make sure you only have one, address_rewriting="1" and that it is set to 1 - then rename the htaccess file to .htaccess (with the . )
19:34.50RogerHustonsure
19:34.58RogerHustonI have used .htacess before
19:37.32RogerHustonThat works.  I only saw the instructions to remove it from the faq.  
19:37.57RogerHustonNot sure why it did not dawn on me that I had to use both with each other.
19:40.23RogerHustonWell, it seems to be working for the most part.  Sometimes I have to try my admin additions a couple of times.
19:40.36RogerHustonAdding users, changing user, etc.
19:44.29RogerHustonAs long as I know the idiosyncrasies that is good enough.  I just don't want the other users to have to worry about them.
19:46.46RogerHustonI have another question.  This is more of a FF question.  On the Take action button on the main task list.  In FF, it keeps trying to download index.php.
19:47.00RogerHustonHmm, maybe it is a bad plugin
19:49.37AlexC_sounds like your server is messed up
19:50.10Rolenun_lol, we're still on the same conversation an hour later? :)
19:50.49AlexC_if you're getting random sql errors, then it's asking to download index.php it sounds like a poorly configured server
19:51.09Rolenun_make that 2.5 hours later :D
19:51.25RogerHustonI do not know if I am getting random sql errors.  Nothing is being displayed.
19:51.42RogerHustonAlso, the download index.php only happens on FF.
19:51.50AlexC_RogerHuston: clear cookies/cache
19:53.10RogerHustonok
19:53.29RogerHustonYes, Rolenun, Still trying to get it to work consistently
19:53.54RogerHustonI like flyspray and my company will donate, just want to get it to work on our server.
19:56.28AlexC_RogerHuston: at the top of index.php add  error_reporting( E_ALL );
19:57.18RogerHustonok
19:58.04AlexC_floele: do you have dedicated or vps hosting?
19:58.23RogerHustonNo, just shared.
19:58.30RogerHustonBut we are the only one on this IP
19:58.47AlexC_ah, RogerHuston the new floele :P
19:59.05RogerHustonoops, sorry
19:59.07AlexC_hehe
19:59.34AlexC_do you see errors now?
19:59.41RogerHustonTesting
20:00.56RogerHustonNo, I still just get a blank page.
20:01.07RogerHustonNow I am just trying to add comments to a test project.
20:04.54RogerHustonWhen you say that the server is not configured correctly - what could I tell my service provider to help him out?  I will try and load this on a local server too.
20:06.47AlexC_tell them to turn PHP safe mode off, if it's on, and tell them to turn error reporting on - if they don't do that ask to see the logs
20:07.20RogerHustonOk, will do.
20:07.23RogerHustonThanks.
20:07.29AlexC_no probs,
20:13.10floelejudas_iscariote?
20:13.41floeleAlexC: we have a dedicated server
20:14.04AlexC_floele: may I ask where from, I'm looking at switching off shared hosting ... I find it restrictive
20:14.11floelesweden
20:14.22floeledon't know the provider
20:14.26AlexC_oh right,
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21:00.38judas_iscariotefloele huh ?
21:03.21judas_iscarioteAlexC_: provider is http://www.fsdata.se/
21:03.58AlexC_if only I could read sweedish
21:04.00AlexC_=D
21:04.20judas_iscarioteI can't
21:04.24judas_iscariote;P
21:04.57AlexC_hehe,
21:05.22AlexC_I've been looking at VPS hosting as well, but .... it doesn't seem right, you get so little ram, like 256mb
21:05.24judas_iscarioteAlexC_: actually the server is paid by a sweden guy not by us...
21:05.38AlexC_ahh I see, that's nice of him!
21:05.47AlexC_sometimes with these vps plans you get 64mb ram!
21:06.59judas_iscariote$53/mo  with 1GB of ram.
21:07.23judas_iscarioteI saw some VPS plans at that price.
21:07.44AlexC_:S most I've seen are around $30 for 256mb
21:08.17judas_iscarioteI dunno how much uor server costs, I guess it is expensive though.
21:08.41AlexC_normally is if its dedicated
21:09.45judas_iscarioteIt seems like real hardware .. not a VM:
21:10.33judas_iscarioteI tried to determine it's nature, so unless it is running within Xen, I confirm it is real dedicated hardware.
21:10.34AlexC_yeah. I'm not sure if to get vps or not, it seems messy and like a hack really =\
21:11.02judas_iscarioteVPS are good.
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21:11.13judas_iscariotejust make sure you select a good provider.
21:11.54judas_iscarioteAlexC_: godaddy sells cheap VPS.. but I can confirm they are crap.
21:12.12AlexC_I'd rather pay that little more for non-crap
21:12.16judas_iscarioteAlexC_: http://www.tektonic.net/unmanaged.html try those.
21:12.19AlexC_http://www.vpslink.com/ seem like they know what they are doing
21:12.50AlexC_hum, that is good
21:14.09judas_iscarioteAlexC_: unless you want it as a toy, no less than 512 MB ram.
21:15.16AlexC_I think I may go with tektonic, best value I've seen so far
21:15.37AlexC_now, Fedora or Debian :P ... I may go with Debian as I use Ubuntu quite a bit
21:16.39judas_iscariotedebian is completely obsolete, and fedora is too experimental...
21:17.05AlexC_what is CentOS like? I've seen it being used on quite a lot of servers, never played around with it though
21:17.28judas_iscarioteAlexC_: CentOS is good, just make sure they have Centos 5
21:17.42judas_iscarioteCentOS 5 is good, but obsolete
21:17.48judas_iscarioteI mean 4
21:18.27judas_iscarioteunfortunately cenots has not been released yet ( I thought if was)
21:18.55AlexC_I would go for Ubuntu ... I know it in and out, but - I dunno, it's a good distro but I feel it's over-rated and doesn't really have a place as a server
21:19.42judas_iscarioteif you have only thoses choices, the less crappy option is Ubuntu /make sure you get something up2date)
21:20.45AlexC_well - doesn't matter what version of Ubuntu .. or the others is installed as default really, I can update Ubuntu to the latest when ever I want,
21:21.17AlexC_at least, I should be able to ... unless they stop me,
21:22.27judas_iscarioteunless you have to run a kernel decided by them. why unfortunatrely usually happends...
21:22.57AlexC_damm
21:24.18judas_iscarioteOur server runs Debian ( contrarily to my wishes though, Im a openSUSE developer hence it is way easier and familiar to me to use what I actually help to produce)
21:25.02judas_iscariotemaybe I'll mess around with the OS in the future for an "upgrade" not now though.
21:25.04judas_iscariote;P
21:25.20AlexC_lol :P - how long have you been working on openSuse?
21:25.34judas_iscarioteabout one year and a half or so.
21:25.35floelejudas_iscariote: check the forum again ;)
21:26.29judas_iscariotefloele: wtf !! the cron does not do what is supposed to do !! LOL
21:27.36floeleI'll go to bed now, cu
21:27.40judas_iscariotefloele: fixed
21:27.41judas_iscariotecu
21:28.43judas_iscarioteAlexC_: I actully know how to install the OS remotely , but it is a risky operation and takes some time.. ;-P
21:35.05judas_iscariotebbl
21:35.59AlexC_cya
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21:47.00netWolf_hello
21:54.06AlexC_morning
21:54.16netWolf_night :)
21:55.42AlexC_night here to, ol
21:55.46AlexC_I say morning when ever
21:56.49netWolf_judas_iscariote: I'm back and pretty ok, see you tomorrow
22:35.40judas_iscarioteAlexC_: netwolf is the database geek
22:35.49judas_iscariote;-)
22:36.48AlexC_handles all the sql for flyspray then?
22:38.37judas_iscariotenot all but some pieces

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