| 00:45.43 | kNIGits | macnewbold: I really don't know how to respond. I'm happy enough with my hosting provider, and I get a jabber server as part of the deal |
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| 08:46.22 | kNIGafk | ~greet floele |
| 08:46.23 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on floele |
| 08:46.50 | floele | hi :) |
| 08:47.04 | kNIGits | idiots have been running scripts against my home server today |
| 08:47.22 | floele | any damage? |
| 08:47.24 | kNIGits | earlier they were looking for xml-rpc weaknesses in drupal, phpgroupware and wordpress |
| 08:47.29 | kNIGits | none of those are installed :-) |
| 08:47.51 | kNIGits | just now they were trying an IIS buffer overflow |
| 08:48.00 | kNIGits | but I'm running apache, of course :-D |
| 08:48.05 | floele | lol |
| 08:48.22 | floele | wherefrom do you know all the details? |
| 08:50.57 | kNIGits | apache log file |
| 08:52.38 | kNIGits | I have it on screen, and updates when something happens |
| 08:52.40 | floele | does it tell you which exploits have been tried? I didn't have a look at my log file yet... |
| 08:53.41 | kNIGits | the earlier ones were easy. you could see what pages they were trying to request, and giving 404 errors |
| 08:53.55 | kNIGits | this is an example of what they just tried right now |
| 08:54.05 | kNIGits | 200.243.8.163 - - [03/Dec/2005:15:44:09 +1100] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 1973 "-" "-" |
| 08:54.07 | kNIGits | 220.165.156.221 - - [03/Dec/2005:19:15:00 +1100] "SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1\x02\xb1 |
| 08:54.17 | kNIGits | and about 200 lines of that rubbish at the end |
| 08:54.28 | kNIGits | trying to buffer overflow IIS |
| 08:55.02 | floele | ah, I see. do you watch your logile all they day? |
| 08:56.06 | kNIGits | when I'm sitting here I can see when the lines start to scroll up :-) |
| 08:58.14 | kNIGits | I just open a terminal and use the linux 'tail' program to watch a logfile |
| 09:00.35 | kNIGits | googlebot just hit me :-) |
| 09:00.55 | floele | so was it luck that you opened the file just now or do you do it every day? |
| 09:01.03 | kNIGits | I've had it open for a few days |
| 09:01.41 | kNIGits | 66.249.65.105 - - [03/Dec/2005:19:56:55 +1100] "GET /flyspray-dev/?do=details&id=9 HTTP/1.1" 200 8227 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" |
| 09:02.52 | kNIGits | man, that googlebot is indexing every page on my Flyspray |
| 09:04.45 | floele | why not ;) |
| 09:12.36 | kNIGits | it'll take them a while - I'm maxing out my bandwidth on a download |
| 09:17.52 | floele | is your home PC the server? |
| 09:18.00 | kNIGits | yep |
| 09:18.16 | kNIGits | I really should run my webserver on a seperate computer, but I don't have one |
| 09:18.39 | floele | nice. my available bandwidth here wouldn't be sufficient for an own server :( |
| 09:19.00 | kNIGits | what broadband do you have? |
| 09:19.15 | floele | DSL 768Kbits/s |
| 09:19.20 | floele | down |
| 09:20.22 | kNIGits | and how much up? |
| 09:20.58 | floele | about 20KB/s |
| 09:21.07 | floele | but at least I got a flatrate this month and now I'm taking revenge for my last bill hehe |
| 09:21.08 | kNIGits | really? I have 512/512 |
| 09:21.27 | floele | 512KB/s? |
| 09:22.44 | kNIGits | 512Kb/s |
| 09:24.18 | floele | hm, I don't think that someline like that exists at all here in the area. although you can get (in theory) a downstream up to 6000KBit/s the upstream is quite low always |
| 09:24.34 | kNIGits | roughly 50KB/s |
| 09:25.29 | floele | what is roughly 50KB/s? |
| 09:25.52 | kNIGits | 512Kb/s is roughly 50KB/s download speed |
| 09:26.49 | floele | well, I always say Kbit instead of Kb |
| 09:27.13 | kNIGits | sure, so do I. |
| 09:27.28 | floele | but you didn't? |
| 09:27.34 | kNIGits | I'm currently downloading at 50K/sec, which is 50Kbytes |
| 09:27.46 | kNIGits | but my DSL line is 512Kbits/sec |
| 09:30.08 | kNIGits | thanks for fixing those silly bugs yesterday mate |
| 09:30.25 | floele | my pleasure :) |
| 09:30.46 | kNIGits | I really should have been able to figure it out myself. perhaps my brain cells are dying in my old age |
| 09:32.07 | floele | I don't hope so ;) |
| 09:33.59 | kNIGits | haven't heard anything from Morgan lately |
| 09:34.48 | kNIGits | perhaps he didn't like it when I told him to shut up and be polite to macnewbold |
| 09:35.38 | floele | hehe, probably he also didn't like the severity of his bugs |
| 09:36.11 | kNIGits | I was going to close them if he kept being rude |
| 09:37.19 | kNIGits | absolutely no-one has the right to be rude to a volunteer |
| 09:38.43 | kNIGits | wow, my desktop pc has been running for 32 days without a reboot |
| 09:39.00 | floele | nope...that reminds me of an email again... |
| 09:39.21 | kNIGits | which email ? |
| 09:39.44 | floele | hm, I have to search for it first |
| 09:40.00 | kNIGits | what was it about? what is it reminding you of? |
| 09:40.23 | floele | of rude people |
| 09:44.50 | floele | this is a mail we (cdburnerxp.se) got long time ago :D |
| 09:44.51 | floele | I'll only post the URL though... http://cdburnerxp.se/rude.html |
| 09:45.41 | kNIGits | wtf? |
| 09:46.02 | floele | well, I have no idea |
| 09:46.15 | floele | probably a problem with our installer |
| 09:46.47 | kNIGits | I like your website's menubar |
| 09:47.44 | floele | yep, it was my first noteable CSS achievement (the first time I really used CSS) |
| 09:48.02 | floele | it even works in IE |
| 09:48.09 | kNIGits | wow, nice job |
| 09:48.30 | floele | thx |
| 09:48.45 | kNIGits | only windows version? |
| 09:49.02 | floele | windows version of IE? |
| 09:49.08 | kNIGits | heh, no. CDB |
| 09:49.31 | floele | oh, yes, only windows |
| 09:49.50 | floele | there is no really good burning program for windows yet |
| 09:50.01 | kNIGits | linux is worse |
| 09:50.11 | floele | isn't K3B good? |
| 09:50.46 | kNIGits | it's ok |
| 09:53.09 | floele | I am currently downloading the knoppix DVD image. I hope that I can finally try some linux programs then....the CD image didn't work that well |
| 09:54.41 | kNIGits | I don't have a dvd burner :-( |
| 09:56.18 | floele | why not? too expensive? |
| 09:59.29 | kNIGits | hrmf. my wife just smashed me at Tetrinet |
| 09:59.48 | kNIGits | not too expensive. I've just never needed one enough to go buy one |
| 10:01.23 | floele | I bought the DVD burner when I needed to free up my hard drive...by now I have got a 250GB HD though :D |
| 10:04.02 | floele | what is tetrinet? |
| 10:04.22 | kNIGits | multiplayer tetris :-) |
| 10:04.31 | kNIGits | you get special blocks to do nasty things to your opponents |
| 10:06.17 | kNIGits | it's the only computer game my wife will play with me |
| 10:06.33 | floele | haha |
| 10:07.02 | floele | the only puzzle-like game I liked to far is Kurukurukururin :D |
| 10:07.50 | floele | unfortunately the successor has never been released here :( |
| 10:08.49 | floele | I wouldn't mind playing US games, but Japanese *is* a problem |
| 10:11.27 | kNIGits | yeah, my foreign language skills are pretty poor |
| 10:12.07 | kNIGits | I have some japanese language arcade games on my cabinet |
| 10:12.59 | kNIGits | hmm, I might need a dvd burner now after all |
| 10:13.13 | floele | why now? |
| 10:13.33 | kNIGits | today I downloaded the linux version of NeverWinter Nights (old rpg game), and it's over a gig |
| 10:15.36 | floele | hehe. I already played it on windows, but never to the end since there was a problem with the game that didn't let me go on - the plot was frozen somehow |
| 10:15.56 | kNIGits | oh! that's not very good |
| 10:16.41 | kNIGits | I hope this version isn't like that |
| 10:17.18 | kNIGits | do you know if can it be played multiplayer? |
| 10:17.19 | floele | I guess that it was releated to the cheating I did now and then :D |
| 10:17.48 | floele | hm, I can't remeber. I only know that I always played single palyer |
| 10:17.58 | floele | but I guess there is no MP |
| 10:18.57 | kNIGits | I'm sure that there's a server download tho |
| 10:20.33 | kNIGits | perhaps I imagined it |
| 10:25.20 | kNIGits | damn. a gig of game, and now 100 meg of update |
| 10:31.13 | floele | hehe...when downloading games afte such a long time big patches are usual ;) |
| 10:37.04 | kNIGits | yeah, I should have expected it |
| 10:37.25 | kNIGits | I played NWN briefly years ago, but I have really wanted to get the proper linux version and try again |
| 10:45.23 | kNIGits | oh good. it crashes when I load it |
| 10:48.18 | floele | :D |
| 10:48.52 | kNIGits | fixed that, but now it claims my cd-key is wrong. time to hit google groups |
| 10:49.07 | floele | when I first tried to play it on win2000 it didn't work too |
| 10:54.42 | kNIGits | do you still have your cdkey? |
| 10:58.57 | floele | erm...well, it wasn't my game anyway ;) |
| 10:59.59 | kNIGits | heh. I found one on google groups |
| 11:00.11 | kNIGits | there is a multiplayer option in the game menu. I wonder how it works... |
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| 16:40.18 | floele | ~greet macnewbold |
| 16:40.20 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on macnewbold |
| 16:59.07 | macnewbold | hi floele |
| 16:59.40 | macnewbold | I like the geshi stuff you did |
| 17:00.08 | macnewbold | how big is geshi? |
| 17:06.07 | floele | good to hear that. Zipped it is about 200KB more for Flyspray |
| 17:09.39 | floele | I replied to your mail btw :) |
| 21:23.50 | LightGuard | Anyone still here? |
| 21:24.19 | LightGuard | kNIGts: I was looking at adodb_lite, do we have any bench marks on flyspray? |
| 21:24.30 | macnewbold | hi LightGuard |
| 21:24.40 | macnewbold | I'm still here but not for long |
| 21:24.47 | LightGuard | I was looking at using adodb for a project and came across _lit. |
| 21:24.50 | LightGuard | Hi mac. |
| 21:25.06 | LightGuard | adodb_lite is a lot faster and has a smaller footprint. |
| 21:25.19 | LightGuard | We could migrate really easily if we're interested. |
| 21:35.27 | macnewbold | what are the downsides of using adodb_lite ? what do we lose? |
| 21:35.47 | LightGuard | Looks to me like not much of anything. |
| 21:36.01 | LightGuard | They've done a really good job at keeping things compatible, and lite. |
| 21:36.18 | LightGuard | It uses a modular system, so a lot of the adodb functions have moved to modules. |
| 21:36.29 | LightGuard | http://adodblite.sourceforge.net/index.php |
| 21:37.06 | LightGuard | Date functions are in a module. |
| 21:37.26 | LightGuard | That might be one downside is that we need to start the module. |
| 21:37.35 | macnewbold | hm |
| 21:37.50 | macnewbold | if you've got time, send something to the mailing list about it.. it sounds interesting |
| 21:37.59 | macnewbold | if it is smaller or otherwise easier to have as a dependency, |
| 21:38.05 | macnewbold | then it sounds like a good idea |
| 21:38.50 | LightGuard | Okay, can do. |
| 21:39.04 | floele | I agree. whenever we can use something lighter we should do it :) |
| 21:40.01 | LightGuard | Who's most familiar with adodb and what we're using it for? |
| 21:40.11 | LightGuard | I guess MadCoder would be as he did all of the code lint? |
| 21:46.41 | macnewbold | MadCoder or kNIGits_ probably |
| 21:46.46 | macnewbold | I'm not sure who initially added adodb |
| 21:46.49 | macnewbold | but I think it was kNIGits_ |
| 21:46.57 | LightGuard | Probably. |
| 21:47.05 | MadCoder | adodb was here like ... since ever for me ;p |
| 21:47.09 | MadCoder | I don't like it personnaly |
| 21:47.41 | LightGuard | What do you use Mac? |
| 21:48.29 | LightGuard | afk |
| 21:55.32 | macnewbold | MySQL :) |
| 21:57.42 | LightGuard | Just straight mysql functions? |
| 21:58.33 | macnewbold | yep |
| 21:58.43 | macnewbold | we only have one client where we're forced to interact some with MSSQL |
| 21:58.48 | macnewbold | otherwise we always use mysql |
| 21:58.57 | LightGuard | Cool. |
| 21:58.59 | macnewbold | so we don't use an abstraction layer |
| 21:59.09 | macnewbold | different situation than with open source software :) |
| 22:10.47 | macnewbold | hi kNIGits |
| 22:10.53 | kNIGits | g'morning all |
| 22:11.02 | macnewbold | looks like I'm just barely crossing paths with you again - I'm about to leave |
| 22:11.09 | kNIGits | ah, that's ok |
| 22:11.13 | macnewbold | LightGuard was just telling us about adodb-lite |
| 22:11.36 | LightGuard | I sent a message to the list. |
| 22:12.11 | macnewbold | hasn't come through to me yet, but it's sometimes a bit slow |
| 22:12.48 | LightGuard | I just get the digest. |
| 22:13.06 | floele | hi kNIGits :) |
| 22:13.18 | floele | already had a look at my syntax highlighting? |
| 22:13.39 | kNIGits | nice work on the syntax highlighting. had you noticed me previously discussing Geishi with Andi? |
| 22:13.51 | floele | hm, I think you mentioned it |
| 22:14.07 | floele | is my implementation alright? |
| 22:14.44 | kNIGits | looks good. bright white background doesn't quite suit the Bluey theme, but that's easily fixed |
| 22:15.02 | floele | what color would you prefer? |
| 22:15.39 | floele | it shouldn't |
| 22:15.40 | macnewbold | I think a pale blue would look nice |
| 22:15.49 | macnewbold | a step between the normal bg and pure white |
| 22:16.22 | kNIGits | yep |
| 22:16.23 | floele | I'll try |
| 22:16.57 | kNIGits | we could make geishi optional, and put the path in the config file |
| 22:17.34 | macnewbold | why wouldn't we make it be on by default? |
| 22:18.04 | kNIGits | because we'd have to include it in the download... |
| 22:18.09 | kNIGits | or doesn't that matter? |
| 22:18.36 | macnewbold | it's 200KB I think floele said |
| 22:18.36 | floele | it's only 200KB |
| 22:18.38 | floele | yep |
| 22:18.46 | macnewbold | to me, that's not a big deal, but I guess it might matter to others |
| 22:18.58 | macnewbold | even on a slow connection (modem) |
| 22:19.12 | macnewbold | it's only a difference of 30 seconds |
| 22:19.18 | macnewbold | in the download time |
| 22:19.47 | macnewbold | anyway, I've got to run for the day - see y'all on Monday |
| 22:19.58 | kNIGits | k, seeya |
| 22:20.00 | floele | I updated the color now |
| 22:20.11 | floele | I prefer pure white though ;) |
| 22:20.50 | floele | the contrast is better then to my eye |
| 22:23.36 | kNIGits | still looks white to me |
| 22:24.01 | floele | yep. but if I make it more blue you won't be able to read the code properly |
| 22:24.31 | floele | right now it is a mix between white and the background-color |
| 22:25.54 | kNIGits | ah, right |
| 22:28.03 | floele | so is it OK like that? |
| 22:28.14 | kNIGits | looks great |
| 22:28.44 | floele | ok. I got another idea: should there be scrollbars (within the code field) if there is mich code? |
| 22:28.56 | floele | refresh the page if you want to see an example |
| 22:29.13 | floele | of course a bigger size will be allowed then |
| 22:29.56 | kNIGits | yep. I would allow the box to be three times higher before the scrollbar |
| 22:30.22 | floele | 30em? |
| 22:35.22 | floele | (have a look now if you want to see how it looks like) |
| 22:36.00 | kNIGits | looks great |
| 22:37.51 | kNIGits | you da man |
| 22:38.08 | kNIGits | I believe that there is a code-highlighting task in the bts somewhere |
| 22:38.57 | floele | I spotted it already ;) |
| 22:39.03 | floele | so, may I commit? :) |
| 22:39.22 | kNIGits | did you plan on adding geishi to svn? |
| 22:39.40 | floele | of course |
| 22:39.54 | floele | I fixed a bug in geshi too |
| 22:40.14 | kNIGits | haha |
| 22:40.26 | floele | it really used \ as escape char for XML and HTML... |
| 22:40.55 | floele | so test="\" caused problems |
| 22:41.54 | floele | I also had to add a new class, Flyspray_Textformatter |
| 22:42.47 | floele | this first cuts the code-tags out (so that they don't get htmlspecialchars etc.) and then puts them in again later |
| 22:43.07 | kNIGits | good good |
| 22:43.11 | kNIGits | yes, please add it all to svn |
| 22:44.13 | floele | this bug you ment? FS#269 |
| 22:50.28 | kNIGits | that's the one |
| 22:50.32 | floele | ok |
| 22:50.39 | floele | btw, I also found a new bug |
| 22:50.45 | kNIGits | yay! |
| 22:51.06 | floele | the double select for assigned-to doesn't work for me anymore |
| 22:51.10 | kNIGits | hmm, I never got the notification of you taking ownership of FS#269 |
| 22:51.28 | floele | maybe it needs more time to be sent |
| 22:51.52 | kNIGits | double select works for me in assigned_to |
| 22:52.12 | kNIGits | just tried it |
| 22:52.12 | floele | hm |
| 22:52.26 | floele | Notice: Undefined index: 6 in /www/htdocs/v111912/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 314 |
| 22:52.26 | floele | Notice: Undefined index: 9 in /www/htdocs/v111912/flyspray/includes/class.tpl.php on line 314 |
| 22:52.32 | floele | this is what I get on my server |
| 22:52.43 | floele | the usernames in the right box are missing |
| 22:53.00 | kNIGits | check the source directory for conflicts |
| 22:53.40 | kNIGits | time to cut my hair. bbiab |
| 22:53.48 | floele | source directory? |
| 22:53.58 | floele | anway, I guess I rather go to bed now |
| 22:54.11 | floele | we can talk about that later, it doesn't hurry |
| 22:54.16 | floele | cya |