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00:08.43 | keyra_ | welcome to Elive, Elive_user78_pl! =) |
00:08.51 | keyra_ | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
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00:21.31 | *** topic/#elive is Web: http://www.elivecd.org | BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org - please report problems so we can solve them | Forum: http://forum.elivecd.org | Elive 3.0 is on the way and going to be entirely cost-free! |
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02:10.12 | keyra_ | welcome to Elive, Elive_user94_en! =) |
02:10.20 | keyra_ | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
02:10.42 | Elive_user94_en | how to install? |
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09:00.38 | grottem | morning Naglfar |
09:00.40 | keyra_ | good morning! |
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16:24.57 | real_grottem | is pissed big time |
16:25.58 | real_grottem | Naglfar, you here? |
16:26.15 | Naglfar | hello real_grottem |
16:26.33 | real_grottem | supid freenode keeps saying my nick is used |
16:26.39 | real_grottem | but i don't see it |
16:26.46 | real_grottem | and it's pasword protected |
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16:27.43 | Naglfar | probably it's ghosted real_grottem |
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16:28.10 | real_grottem | prob |
16:28.20 | real_grottem | but i'm having wireless problems |
16:28.23 | real_grottem | big time |
16:28.31 | Naglfar | real_grottem, try this: /msg nickserv ghost grottem password |
16:28.59 | real_grottem | it sais full connected but i cant' get ip's from the modem's DHCP server |
16:29.04 | real_grottem | hi Thanatermesis |
16:29.15 | Thanatermesis | o/ Grottem :) |
16:29.17 | keyra_ | :) |
16:29.19 | keyra_ | hi! |
16:29.22 | Naglfar | hello Thanatermesis |
16:29.24 | Grottem | jeej |
16:29.37 | Thanatermesis | hi Naglfar! :) |
16:29.41 | Naglfar | :) |
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16:33.25 | Thanatermesis | so so |
16:33.30 | Thanatermesis | Elive needs a new beta release |
16:33.39 | Thanatermesis | problem is that there's no work done since the last one lol |
16:34.11 | Thanatermesis | Naglfar, fui encarcelado como emigrante ilegal en mexico y estaba totalmente aislado e incomunicado hasta ahora... asi que de vuelta a españa jaj! |
16:35.55 | Naglfar | Thanatermesis, recuerdo que me comentaste que se te habia caducado la residencia |
16:37.31 | Naglfar | no sabiamos que te estaba pasando, siento mucho saber lo que has tenido que pasar |
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16:41.08 | Thanatermesis | no te preocupes, está todo bien :) |
16:41.11 | keyra | :) |
16:42.09 | Thanatermesis | Naglfar, the only thing is that it was not planned... so a lot of time was lost, im not anymore in mexico (life is MUCH less expensive, so i was able to live easly with the small amount of income), and well, now trying to start again with the development, unfortunately the internet connection here is HORRIBLE! |
16:42.20 | Thanatermesis | my mother lives in the mountain, so internet is very limited and slow |
16:47.49 | Naglfar | <PROTECTED> |
16:47.55 | Naglfar | Rate (Kbps): 10790 1021 |
16:48.10 | Naglfar | I have this speed |
16:48.45 | Naglfar | but at least unlimited |
16:48.57 | Grottem | i have a downstream (cabled) 21200 |
16:50.35 | Grottem | 188.17 Mbps down en 17.02 Mbps up |
16:50.59 | Thanatermesis | 508 packets transmitted, 409 received, 19% packet loss, time 508842ms |
16:51.06 | Thanatermesis | omg that's pretty bad |
16:53.49 | Grottem | :) |
16:53.51 | keyra | :) |
16:54.09 | Naglfar | it looks like wireless bad signal ? |
16:54.52 | Naglfar | /sbin/iwconfig |grep Quality |
16:54.54 | Thanatermesis | mmh, not really |
16:54.58 | Thanatermesis | im with a cable to the router |
16:54.59 | Naglfar | Link Quality=53/70 Signal level=-57 dBm |
16:55.07 | Thanatermesis | but the router crosses mountains in a wifi way |
16:55.10 | Thanatermesis | so more or less |
16:55.16 | Thanatermesis | not "my" wifi |
16:57.45 | Thanatermesis | and speed is like 2 Mb/s for down and 0.4 for up |
16:58.03 | Grottem | wow :s |
16:58.05 | keyra | woooha! |
16:58.29 | Thanatermesis | yep, pretty crappy |
16:58.41 | Grottem | big crappy |
16:58.47 | Grottem | i would go banana's |
16:58.50 | Thanatermesis | well, i can work with some things, like designs... but not sure how i will do it for the releases lol, maybe i need to get a train to barcelona to be able to connect from a coffe LOL |
16:58.57 | Thanatermesis | "travel only for that" |
16:59.19 | Thanatermesis | unfortunately renting a room in barcelona is scarily expensive, no way right now with my economics |
17:00.30 | Naglfar | is it possible to move the router nearest to the acces point ? |
17:02.02 | Thanatermesis | nope, it crosses mountains :) |
17:02.04 | keyra | :) |
17:03.10 | Thanatermesis | omg, my location (by google maps locator) shows that im in a city 6 km away... |
17:03.21 | Thanatermesis | so basically this wifi from where im getting connection is from that place lol |
17:03.28 | Grottem | lol |
17:03.28 | Naglfar | or move the antenna a bit more higher |
17:03.55 | Thanatermesis | more than in the mountain where im ? lol |
17:05.54 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, with this connection is really not easy to develop |
17:06.03 | Thanatermesis | much more limited (and slowed down) |
17:08.25 | Grottem | :p less distraction |
17:08.38 | Grottem | so more time to code :p |
17:09.27 | Naglfar | I have no elive installed yet, else you can use my desktop box to ssh in, it allow you to send/recived data faster from it |
17:10.20 | Thanatermesis | yeah, less distraction too!, well, still internet (but slow) lol |
17:10.37 | Thanatermesis | hum |
17:10.42 | Thanatermesis | there's not a perfect solution |
17:10.48 | Thanatermesis | for some things like builds can be fast |
17:10.59 | Thanatermesis | but the interactiveness will be very slow (from here to your computer) |
17:11.14 | Thanatermesis | needs a perfect solution, let's think... |
17:12.49 | Thanatermesis | maybe i should talk with these guys, seems like the only hackerspace in barcelona? :/ wtf https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Don%27t_panic! |
17:13.58 | Thanatermesis | > You can find us every Tuesday from 18h to 21h! |
17:14.01 | Thanatermesis | sounds very limited, hum |
17:14.10 | Thanatermesis | will need to check it |
17:14.14 | Grottem | indeed |
17:21.35 | Naglfar | it looks like a place where developers work together to share internet connection? |
17:21.40 | keyra | actual developers are Thanatermesis and PrinceAMD, maybe I forgot others? well, im only a bot :þ |
17:26.49 | Thanatermesis | not sure how they manages exactly or what they do |
17:26.55 | Thanatermesis | seems like the hackerspaces era is died |
17:27.37 | Grottem | same with cybercafé |
17:35.18 | Thanatermesis | not in south-america :) |
17:35.21 | keyra | :) |
17:36.23 | Grottem | realy ? nice |
17:37.04 | Grottem | i used to be many hours in the local cybercafé just for the fun and the company |
17:41.19 | Thanatermesis | answering email of Grottem about ecomorph & screen-lock |
17:41.23 | Thanatermesis | still having the problem Grottem ? |
17:41.42 | Grottem | yep still have to the work-around |
17:41.47 | Grottem | but that works |
17:41.56 | Thanatermesis | i will try your suggestion |
17:42.01 | Thanatermesis | trying to implement that |
17:42.10 | Grottem | so i was thinking to code it my self to code a button |
17:42.21 | Thanatermesis | will tell you to betatest and confirm that the bug is fixed when ill finish it :) |
17:42.23 | keyra | :) |
17:42.25 | Grottem | but i couldn't find the process :D so i was stuck |
17:42.42 | Thanatermesis | Grottem, check the youtube video called "make an e17 module in 10 minutes" :) |
17:43.02 | Thanatermesis | damn! just trying to compile E but is downloading the sources and this will take some time... omg |
17:43.10 | Thanatermesis | Receiving objects: 13% (22590/162816), 11.64 MiB | 88.00 KiB/s |
17:43.17 | Thanatermesis | 88 KiB/s hum.... |
17:43.22 | Grottem | :D |
17:43.25 | Grottem | hehe |
17:43.49 | Thanatermesis | well, let's wait for it then :\ |
17:44.03 | Grottem | the best thing you can do is wait |
17:44.56 | Grottem | but Thanatermesis the sollution of Naglfar could work when you have a SSH connection it's like chatting you sending only small Kb packages so you can work on a remote computer rather quickly |
17:45.04 | Thanatermesis | s/best/only/ |
17:45.04 | Thanatermesis | lol |
17:45.35 | Grottem | and when you need to upload thing you use the remote 'servers's connection which is faster |
17:45.50 | Grottem | so you can do your work from home on a slow connection |
17:47.13 | Naglfar | you just need slow connection and ssh, then you can use fast connection into it |
17:47.25 | Grottem | yeah |
17:50.09 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i can understand the solution of SSH, is a good thing but as i said, is not a "complete" solution, and this will lead to much more difficulties |
17:50.12 | Thanatermesis | for example, on this case: |
17:50.57 | Thanatermesis | i will be able to fastly make a build (well, first i need to set up an environment), but then, i will build it and... how to test it? i need to run it -here-, to make changes in the sources and try the E modifications in a real machine, i could not see it |
17:51.01 | Thanatermesis | so... not easy |
17:51.26 | Grottem | for that you can start a teamviewer connection? |
17:51.34 | Grottem | or RDP connection? |
17:51.37 | Thanatermesis | sounds very painful :/ |
17:51.39 | keyra | :| |
17:51.40 | Thanatermesis | not handy |
17:52.33 | Grottem | hey while you where away i did my internship like that a teamviewer connection to a computer to make a RDP connection in a RDP in a RDP connection... |
17:52.39 | Grottem | works like a charm |
17:54.09 | Naglfar | I understand now what do you mean for "complete" solution, it's only a solution for download/upload/compile, but do not for graphical tests |
17:54.30 | Grottem | hence the RDP |
17:55.08 | Naglfar | what RDP is ? |
17:55.21 | Grottem | Remote Desktop Protocol |
17:56.23 | Grottem | so you have a GUI |
17:56.47 | Naglfar | but probably RDP needs more bandwidth usage than Thanatermesis has |
17:58.59 | Grottem | Thanatermesis, can you watch youtube? |
17:59.22 | Grottem | with RDP you can lower the graphs to keep it smooth |
17:59.50 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i need a "full" solution which is just "practical and being able to focus on the work", not to focus on "how i can do that?..." |
18:00.33 | Thanatermesis | this needs to be so complete that for example i buyed a switch in the past, to be able to work with the computers... just because is too slow when i need to transfer a big thing (like a big sources, or an iso) from one computer to other |
18:01.17 | Thanatermesis | check that ;) |
18:01.22 | Thanatermesis | Venus:~ â¯â¯â¯ scp srv/upload/elive_2.9.2_beta_hybrid.iso zeus:/tmp |
18:01.23 | Thanatermesis | Warning: Permanently added 'zeus,192.168.2.162' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. |
18:01.23 | Thanatermesis | elive_2.9.2_beta_hybrid.iso 2% 81MB 40.2MB/s 01:12 ETA |
18:01.59 | Thanatermesis | thats fast |
18:08.21 | Grottem | :D |
18:09.47 | Thanatermesis | so think about how non-practical could be to send an iso among these computers... via wifi heh |
18:27.41 | Thanatermesis | finally downloaded |
18:27.52 | Thanatermesis | btw i did a small change in the "stars" wallpaper :) |
18:27.54 | keyra | :) |
18:27.54 | Grottem | that was fast |
18:28.00 | Grottem | seen it :) |
18:28.05 | Thanatermesis | if you upgrade it, has a little animation at the start of the desktop |
18:28.15 | Thanatermesis | nice! how does looks like? |
18:29.12 | Grottem | seen you did the update |
18:29.18 | Thanatermesis | unfortunately its a bit jumpy but this cannot be optimized, not for e17 at least (moving out of e17 will mean no ecomorph too) |
18:29.18 | Grottem | but no stars on my desktop |
18:29.24 | Thanatermesis | oh ok |
18:29.34 | Thanatermesis | well, just select that wallpaper to try it |
18:29.47 | Grottem | i selected the star wallpaper |
18:30.07 | Grottem | but i run ecomorph ;) |
18:30.55 | Thanatermesis | yeah i mean, next versions of Elive 3.0 will probably not use e17, and not using e17 means no more ecomorph |
18:31.13 | Grottem | wait whut? :p |
18:31.29 | Grottem | no more ecomorph |
18:31.39 | Grottem | so no more fun fancy animations? |
18:57.20 | Thanatermesis | exactly |
18:57.24 | Thanatermesis | thats why we stick at e17 |
18:57.52 | Grottem | :'( |
18:57.53 | Thanatermesis | by other side other effects are available, like realtime windows representation in the pager by composite... well, more stable too |
18:57.58 | Thanatermesis | its not decided yet :) |
18:58.00 | keyra | :) |
18:58.03 | Thanatermesis | there's different options |
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18:58.52 | Thana` | [(piped)] http://paste.debian.net/974277/ |
18:59.18 | Thanatermesis | let's try this piece of code for fix the ecomorph & desklock bug, Grottem ;) |
18:59.19 | Thanatermesis | ^ |
19:02.36 | Grottem | also wouldn't be more wise to upgrade to jessie for security reasons? |
19:03.19 | Thanatermesis | wise yes, but stretch is better option |
19:03.35 | Thanatermesis | the problem is that this kind of "move" will take even much more time in the development |
19:03.43 | Thanatermesis | which translates to "elive 3.0 never out" |
19:04.13 | Grottem | which translates to Thanatermesis code harder faster :p |
19:04.29 | Thanatermesis | which translates to Thanatermesis died |
19:04.58 | Grottem | which translates to Thanatermesis on redbull diet :D |
19:05.11 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, that worked in the past |
19:05.42 | Grottem | redbull and meatfeast pizza :D |
19:05.45 | Grottem | the coders way |
19:07.01 | Grottem | i'm asking for Elive can't promoted in to a professional enviroment due the european law of may 2018 |
19:08.12 | Thanatermesis | Grottem, uses git? |
19:08.37 | Thanatermesis | what law what? |
19:08.46 | Grottem | i used gitkraken to manage git but it can't be used on Elive :( |
19:08.48 | keyra | :/ |
19:08.58 | Grottem | it's a law on euro base |
19:10.11 | Grottem | containing Data Loss Prevention and state that proffecionals who handle sensitive data are responsible for that data |
19:10.13 | Grottem | meaning |
19:10.45 | Grottem | all computers that contain such data must be up to date with the latest and most secure versions of programs |
19:10.59 | Grottem | so it's hard to penatrate the systems |
19:11.18 | Grottem | and it's wise to encrypted every thing |
19:11.30 | Grottem | if they fail to protect the computer |
19:12.09 | Thanatermesis | i see |
19:12.13 | Thanatermesis | well, Elive includes encription |
19:12.29 | Thanatermesis | but is not updated, and cannot be before 3.0, needs to be scheduled for after the release |
19:12.30 | Grottem | and sensitive data leakage could occure there i a fine of 250 000 euro (mininmum) or 5% of the total capatial wish is the most |
19:12.38 | Thanatermesis | after 3.0, it can fastly build updated software, but not before |
19:13.15 | Grottem | ok but programs like chrome, firefox, ... would those also be the latest? |
19:13.15 | Thanatermesis | ok so... and what about the microsoft security requirements? and so for example that virus that affected the entire world recently? :P |
19:13.23 | Grottem | just aksing because that a security risk |
19:13.51 | Thanatermesis | Grottem, answer to them: there's no sense to say that any linux is less secure than windows which is the main used system in computers |
19:14.15 | Thanatermesis | chrome, firefox, etc... cannot be updated for 3.0 |
19:14.29 | Grottem | but can afther? |
19:15.20 | Grottem | i know about this because my whole internship was based on that law |
19:15.25 | Grottem | :) |
19:15.27 | keyra | :) |
19:17.37 | Thanatermesis | after of course :) |
19:17.42 | Thanatermesis | and cannot be hard / slow |
19:17.55 | Thanatermesis | but otherwise is a ton of more work and bugs to discover |
19:18.09 | Grottem | :) |
19:18.12 | Thanatermesis | just after the release, same day, can be possible for next beta's lol |
19:18.13 | Grottem | bugs are fun :) |
19:18.22 | Thanatermesis | well, not after you fix them for eyars :/ |
19:18.24 | keyra | :| |
19:19.15 | Grottem | hehe and a 64 bit version would also be nice (good for new users) because users with 64 bit machine don't like to install 32 bit os :p |
19:19.20 | Grottem | for some weird reason |
19:19.26 | keyra | elive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact, |
19:19.55 | Thanatermesis | bugs are fun only when like this GIF: http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBugbuster |
19:19.56 | Thanatermesis | :) |
19:20.08 | Thanatermesis | yes, 64 bit, uefi, and updated, thats the plan |
19:20.24 | Grottem | still I against UEFI |
19:20.31 | keyra | don't talk me about this shit invented by microsoft to make the computers unable to boot in other operating systems that is not microshit (unless you pay some bucks to them to allow you to boot it, by signing your boot as 'allowed') |
19:20.33 | Grottem | i always change to BIOS :p |
19:20.52 | Thanatermesis | but some computers cannot work without it... like a friend on mexico which i tried to assist lost data, bios cannot boot non-uefi ones |
19:21.01 | Thanatermesis | yep, but you cannot change the ones like that one :P |
19:21.07 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
19:21.16 | Thanatermesis | even if says "no secure boot" option, you cannot "non-uefi boot" |
19:21.35 | Thanatermesis | keyra, who? what? where?! |
19:22.05 | Grottem | i do first boot uefi |
19:22.13 | Grottem | change it to legacy bios |
19:22.21 | Grottem | then install :) |
19:22.23 | keyra | :) |
19:22.39 | Thanatermesis | there's no option of legacy boot on that computer |
19:22.51 | Thanatermesis | and so my friend still having the data lost for now :/, without being able to boot Elive on it |
19:22.53 | Grottem | if data can't be recoverd from stupid people who use UEFI bad luck stupid people :p |
19:23.16 | Thanatermesis | but she's sexy :) |
19:23.17 | Thanatermesis | lol |
19:23.18 | Grottem | weird what type of MOBO does he uses? |
19:23.18 | keyra | :) |
19:23.30 | Grottem | a friend :p yeah ... right :p |
19:23.42 | Thanatermesis | dissapears |
19:23.57 | Thanatermesis | quit: see ya! |
19:24.11 | Grottem | when you say a friend :p and its a girl and you hide the fact she's a girl somethings more is happening :p |
19:25.30 | Thanatermesis | well, THANKS TO the emigration police of mexico, now she's a far away friend lol |
19:25.52 | Thanatermesis | so thank you! you mexican police suckers! |
19:25.58 | Grottem | hehehe |
19:26.00 | Thanatermesis | apt, you can publish the logs on internet now :) |
19:26.02 | keyra | :) |
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19:26.17 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
19:26.30 | Grottem | whiieeee new packages :D |
19:27.07 | Grottem | ooh no new packages for me :( |
19:27.09 | keyra | :/ |
19:27.21 | Thanatermesis | not for you? |
19:27.37 | Grottem | nope |
19:27.47 | Grottem | no updates came in after the apug |
19:28.24 | Thanatermesis | oh wait |
19:28.31 | Thanatermesis | you are using by default e17-stable, not e17 |
19:28.35 | Thanatermesis | which is almost the same |
19:28.53 | Thanatermesis | so e17-stable cannot broke desktops when there's an update :) |
19:28.55 | keyra | :) |
19:29.02 | Grottem | :D |
19:29.05 | Thanatermesis | like right now... there's something strange, desktop blocked in a strange way now... |
19:29.12 | Grottem | hehe |
19:29.13 | Thanatermesis | let me try it here first... |
19:31.32 | Grottem | k |
19:32.55 | Thanatermesis | mmmh there's something strange here |
19:33.06 | Grottem | call ghostbusters |
19:33.12 | Grottem | (sorry lame joke) |
19:37.55 | Thanatermesis | bugbusters |
19:38.10 | Grottem | :p |
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21:47.25 | Thanatermesis | finally! damn |
21:47.28 | Thanatermesis | took some time |
21:47.41 | Grottem | :-) |
21:51.19 | Thanatermesis | well, that was an important one for the stability of Elive |
21:51.21 | Thanatermesis | 3.0 |
21:51.33 | Thanatermesis | now... what was the trick that i have used to avoid this problem? let me remember... |
21:51.46 | keyra | the best way to fix a problem is by reporting the issue into our BTS, if we don't know about the problems that you can have we cannot solve them, your problem can affect to other users too, so you can collaborate with Elive by reporting them to http://bugs.elivecd.org |
22:04.15 | Thanatermesis | Grottem, intel graphic card? |
22:06.11 | Thanatermesis | damn, so slow upload |
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22:36.24 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
23:29.50 | Thanatermesis | Grottem, it should work now, tell me if you still having problems with :) |
23:29.52 | keyra | :) |
23:30.14 | Thanatermesis | not sure if is the same but there was a similar bug with intel cards after a long pause in locked |
23:33.54 | Thanatermesis | sleep time! |
23:33.58 | keyra | sleep well! even if i dont understand why humans needs that :P |
23:34.38 | Thanatermesis | !keyword "sleep time" sleep well! you needy human :P |
23:34.38 | keyra | Redefining 'sleep time' from: 'sleep well! even if i dont understand why humans needs that :P' to: 'sleep well! you needy human :P'. |