IRC log for #elive on 20130730

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00:07.54*** topic/#elive is Update available of Topaz: up003 || Free installer-modules: http://www.elivecd.org/codes || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want to develop in EFL ? http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL
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03:58.17elmo40pr
03:58.20elmo40ifoeroiejhf
03:58.21elmo40damn
03:58.41elmo40not a master anymore... princeamd isnt here :(
04:02.33elmo40how to know if someone is logged into your computer?
04:04.14elmo40why if i try to remove wpasupplicant it has to remove network-manager?
04:04.21elmo40apt: seen thanatermesis
04:04.25aptthanatermesis <~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 13d 10h 55m 40s ago, saying: 'Hi, Im ThanaBot, and Im here for anything that you want (well, almost)'.
04:04.33elmo40such a dumb dependency
04:04.37elmo402 weeks???
04:04.39keyraapt: Im falling in love with your double personality :)
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09:06.50plasmahey PrinceAMD
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10:47.06elmo40PrinceAMD: how do i know if someone else is logged into my system
10:47.34elmo40i type 'who'
10:47.41elmo40but is that the only way?
10:48.44elmo40Thanatermesis: ola :)
10:50.28elmo40why add Blender and Inkscape? that takes a lot of space, no?
10:51.03elmo40i understand rawtherapee
10:52.57Thanatermesisnot really lot of space
10:53.02Thanatermesishi elmo40 :)
10:53.55Thanatermesiswell, what you like better? an operating system like windows that only has "notepad" or a complete OS which has a lot of useful things ? :) everybody likes to see "powerful applications" directly available/included without hassle to install and stuff
10:54.10Thanatermesis* since we are not limited by the space of the cdrom anymore (moved to usb)
10:57.26elmo40i know. not limited to cd rom...
10:57.37elmo40i guess everyone can boot with dvd or usb
10:57.51keyraelmo40: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
10:58.20Thanatermesisnot dvd too... everybody can boot from usb, yes
10:58.37Thanatermesiswell, let me correct, isos can be burned in dvd, right
10:58.46Thanatermesisi meant "not needed"
10:59.01elmo40on a side note. why does it say i have an update for e17 but cant download it?
10:59.07Thanatermesisonly problem with usb is computers with usb-1.0, which is extremely-extremely-slow
10:59.39Thanatermesishum, good question, i just saw the same thing... i think that the main computer turned off when uploading repo, maybe
10:59.49Thanatermesisi will check it when i come back to house
11:00.01elmo40been like that for 2 days
11:00.13Thanatermesishave you tried the new eltrans, elmo40 ? :)
11:00.20Thanatermesisits is featured for english-proofreading :)
11:00.27keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
11:00.43Thanatermesismmh, strange, i will make a look to it, i can't now :)
11:02.49elmo40right now i am trying to get my scanner working
11:02.56elmo40Epson V330
11:08.17elmo40and i hate chrome... it is garbage
11:08.32elmo40when i install that is the first app to get removed (purged)
11:10.21Thanatermesischrome works much much better than firefox, in fact
11:10.31Thanatermesiswhat you dont like from it?
11:11.54elmo40everything
11:12.08elmo40it doesnt 'work' like ff
11:12.17elmo40too many hidden things
11:12.30elmo40and the tracking... not interested
11:13.48Thanatermesiswell, you are not telling me anything exactly :)
11:14.00Thanatermesisits more light and fast than firefox, it works much better in multiple websites too
11:14.11elmo40i dont believe it is any faster
11:14.47elmo40i will agree, it is lighter
11:14.50elmo40less memory hog ;)
11:15.10Thanatermesisit is, compare firefox in "htop" and you will see how much bloated is, sucking your cpu most of the times even without activity
11:15.50Thanatermesisand it works more "reliable" too, with less "glitches" and pauses in different websites like youtube i think
11:16.19elmo40elinks2 -g
11:16.23elmo40all i ever need
11:16.23elmo40;)
11:19.00elmo40why cant wpasupplicant be removed easily?
11:28.06Thanatermesisbecause is needed for connect via wifi, so network configurator applications
11:28.11Thanatermesiswhy you want to remove it ? :)
11:28.20keyraThanatermesis: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
11:33.00elmo40i dont use wifi on pc. just trying to streamline my install, not Elive
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11:53.04elmo40Thanatermesis: how is the installer coming?
11:53.23elmo40i will play with eltrans later. has it been rewritten? or different gui?
11:53.37keyraelmo40: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
11:54.47Thanatermesisyes, rewritten
11:54.52Thanatermesissimilar gui, much more featured
11:55.08Thanatermesisworking on the installer now, absorbing info and ways to do it
12:05.21elmo40shotwell keeps crashing
12:07.55elmo40ERROR:/build/buildd-shotwell_0.12.3-2-i386-XWX1jg/shotwell-0.12.3/src/Photo.vala:3146:photo_get_pixbuf_with_options: assertion failed: (_tmp42_ != NULL)
12:07.58elmo40Aborted
12:08.17elmo40where did shotwell come from anyways? it is new to me.
12:08.38Thanatermesisdebian repos
12:08.46Thanatermesisrun:  bts show shotwell
12:08.52keyraThanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
12:09.04Thanatermesisinstall devscripts first
12:09.17elmo40i did apt-cache show ;)
12:09.34elmo40found out it is still a baby program
12:09.49elmo40v 0.12.3
12:10.10elmo40you going to keep it? maybe it has baby-bugs?
12:10.25keyraelmo40: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org
12:11.44elmo40what is 'bts' ?
12:12.04elmo40debbugs?
12:13.11elmo40debbugs wont install... issue with qmail
12:18.18elmo40something about domain name thing...
12:18.21Thanatermesisyou need to check age, not version-number :)
12:18.45Thanatermesisshotwell is a good one to include, very useful
12:18.51Thanatermesisit works good here
12:19.06Thanatermesisapt-get install devscripts
12:19.09Thanatermesisbts show shotwell
12:19.12Thanatermesisits the bts of debian
12:19.28Thanatermesisi think that you need to install a new Elive version cleanly ;)
12:20.46elmo40yes. i do
12:20.52elmo40hurry and make me an installer!
12:20.54elmo40;)
12:22.21elmo40and why Clementine & Audacious?
12:22.31elmo40does Clementine support iPod?
12:24.01elmo40do you want me to submit a bug?
12:24.16keyraelmo40: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org
12:27.22elmo40Thanatermesis: maybe it is due to the 70mb file size ;)
12:28.24elmo40ah, i see it uses '260%' CPU, then closes. Doesnt the kernel close an app when it does that?
12:30.21Thanatermesisim not decided yet between clementine and audacious
12:30.26Thanatermesisclementine is better, but ugly
12:30.55elmo40it does video, too?
12:31.03elmo40and vlc?! ;)
12:31.06Thanatermesiselmo40, install elive-daemons, there's a feature that closes those remaining sucky apps ;)
12:31.14elmo40lol
12:36.23elmo40did you have a good 'time off' ?
12:37.25elmo40did i show you my (very basic) website? http://graecanada.com
12:51.09PrinceAMDhey plasma ,
12:51.20PrinceAMDhey elmo40
12:55.44elmo40busy
12:55.46elmo40auction
12:55.47elmo40;)
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16:58.55Elive_user90_eshola
16:59.09keyraElive_user90_es: que tal ?
16:59.41Elive_user90_esaqui saaludandoles de donde eres keyra?
17:04.24dike1730hola alguien me puede descir si para instalar elive tiene que hacer uno el pago y donde??
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23:56.01Elive_user35_esHello?
23:56.17elmo40hello Elive_user35_es
23:56.28Elive_user35_esSpanish?
23:56.34elmo40Anglais?
23:56.35elmo40;)
23:56.54Elive_user35_esNada de espaƱol?
23:59.34elmo40nope
23:59.37elmo40english

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