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| 00:03.35 | Robbie-Rotten | Hello. |
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| 00:14.54 | Robbie-Rotten | Thanatermesis, como quito el entorno grafico para instalar los controladores de nvidia? |
| 00:17.04 | bentejuy | Robbie-Rotten, ctrl+alt+f1, como root, /etc/init.d/entrance stop && /etc/init.d/x11-common stop |
| 00:17.22 | Robbie-Rotten | Gracias. |
| 00:17.47 | bentejuy | de nada |
| 00:20.41 | roxville | is away: putting daughter to bed |
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| 02:08.31 | Elive_user26 | hola... alguien que hable espanol??? Necesito ayuda |
| 02:08.45 | keyra | Elive_user26: que tal ? |
| 02:08.58 | Elive_user26 | hola muchas gracias... |
| 02:09.10 | LinuxNIT-II | keyra, = bot |
| 02:09.24 | keyra | LinuxNIT-II: bot |
| 02:09.54 | Elive_user26 | podrias ayudarme? |
| 02:10.15 | LinuxNIT-II | i dont know spanish :( |
| 02:10.58 | Elive_user26 | I am sorry I was talking to Keyra..... My english is not very good... |
| 02:10.59 | Elive_user26 | sorry |
| 02:11.12 | Elive_user26 | =P |
| 02:11.19 | LinuxNIT-II | keyra, is not a person |
| 02:11.25 | Elive_user26 | really |
| 02:11.26 | Elive_user26 | hahahahha |
| 02:11.37 | LinuxNIT-II | is a bot (program) |
| 02:11.38 | Elive_user26 | what it is then? |
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| 02:11.56 | Elive_user26 | hahahahha |
| 02:12.03 | Elive_user26 | oh my hahahah |
| 02:12.11 | Elive_user26 | ok thank you for the warning |
| 02:12.15 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 02:12.19 | LinuxNIT-II | youre welcome |
| 02:12.28 | Robbie-Rotten | Hello. |
| 02:12.30 | LinuxNIT-II | anything i can help you with (or try to) |
| 02:12.32 | LinuxNIT-II | hello Robbie-Rotten |
| 02:12.48 | Elive_user26 | yes please, I just used the apt-get install |
| 02:13.00 | Elive_user26 | to install a theme, but I dont know how to use it |
| 02:13.06 | Elive_user26 | or if it is intalled well |
| 02:13.14 | keyra | Elive_user26: put the .edj file at $HOME/.e/e/themes and press Ctrl+Alt+End (End!, no backspace) |
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| 02:14.19 | LinuxNIT-II | click on the desktop > elnightenment >restart |
| 02:14.32 | LinuxNIT-II | click on the desktop > configurations >themes |
| 02:15.06 | Elive_user26 | yeah I tried that but nothing :( |
| 02:17.25 | Elive_user26 | I just checked and the folder is into the directory where the other themes are... |
| 02:17.34 | Elive_user26 | so I dont know what the problem is .... |
| 02:18.45 | LinuxNIT-II | the theme is in the directory where all the other themes are? |
| 02:18.52 | Elive_user26 | yes |
| 02:18.59 | LinuxNIT-II | does it have the same permeissions? |
| 02:19.24 | Elive_user26 | hahahah good question |
| 02:19.27 | Elive_user26 | I dont know |
| 02:23.06 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.06 | LinuxNIT-II | [root /home/david/Downloads/firefox]# ls /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ -l |
| 02:23.20 | LinuxNIT-II | ls /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ -l |
| 02:23.30 | LinuxNIT-II | run that it will tell you the permissions |
| 02:23.39 | LinuxNIT-II | the theme needs to be readable by the user |
| 02:24.38 | Elive_user26 | yeah the ones that I install says Adry, and the default ones have root |
| 02:26.23 | LinuxNIT-II | paste the line that shows the theme thats not working |
| 02:26.43 | Elive_user26 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1890942 2006-03-02 21:49 elive.edj |
| 02:26.49 | LinuxNIT-II | -rw-r--r-- << these are permissions |
| 02:26.58 | Elive_user26 | oh ok |
| 02:27.05 | LinuxNIT-II | the elive theme is not working? |
| 02:27.25 | Elive_user26 | yeah that-s working but it has the same as the ones that are not... look |
| 02:27.32 | Elive_user26 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 721180 2005-08-13 01:30 vd_winter-e17.edj |
| 02:28.15 | Robbie-Rotten | Estas instalando un theme para escritorios e17 en tu escritorio e16 >S |
| 02:28.22 | Elive_user26 | pero |
| 02:28.26 | Elive_user26 | tambien baje uno de e16 |
| 02:28.31 | Elive_user26 | pero no se a donde se fue |
| 02:28.45 | Elive_user26 | cuando baje para el e17 me aparecio ya en ese escritorio |
| 02:28.50 | Elive_user26 | directorio perdon |
| 02:29.33 | Robbie-Rotten | Lo importaste? |
| 02:29.37 | Elive_user26 | nop |
| 02:29.40 | Elive_user26 | me aparecio ahi solito |
| 02:29.57 | Robbie-Rotten | Configuration->Themes->Import Y escojes el *.edj y aparecera en la lista |
| 02:30.15 | Robbie-Rotten | Si es que sabes el paradero del archivo *.edj |
| 02:30.26 | Elive_user26 | no tengo ese de import |
| 02:30.56 | Robbie-Rotten | Bueno, en forma manual |
| 02:31.06 | Robbie-Rotten | copia el edj en la siguiente direccion |
| 02:31.07 | Robbie-Rotten | ~/.e/e/themes |
| 02:31.10 | Robbie-Rotten | y deberia aparecer |
| 02:33.45 | Elive_user26 | hhehe paso algo raro |
| 02:34.08 | Elive_user26 | no me aparece el nuevo tema... sino que me aparecen 2 veces los de default :S |
| 02:35.52 | Robbie-Rotten | el tema es para e16 no? |
| 02:37.00 | Elive_user26 | ehehehe dejame volver a bajar uno para e16 |
| 02:37.05 | Elive_user26 | pero es que no se a donde se va |
| 02:37.11 | Elive_user26 | no se el directorio al que se fue |
| 02:37.12 | Robbie-Rotten | Pues |
| 02:37.13 | Elive_user26 | permiteme |
| 02:37.15 | Robbie-Rotten | en la parte de descargas |
| 02:37.23 | Robbie-Rotten | click derecho |
| 02:37.27 | Robbie-Rotten | abrir carpeta contenedora |
| 02:37.32 | Robbie-Rotten | algo asi. |
| 02:37.42 | Robbie-Rotten | Si es que usas iceweasel |
| 02:37.58 | Elive_user26 | ya se bajo el otro |
| 02:38.02 | Elive_user26 | dejame ver |
| 02:40.02 | Elive_user26 | ya vi se fua a /usr/share/e16/theme |
| 02:40.16 | Elive_user26 | pero aun sigue sin aparecerme en theme selector |
| 02:40.28 | Robbie-Rotten | Personal, no? |
| 02:40.40 | Elive_user26 | nop |
| 02:40.44 | Elive_user26 | sigue inactivo :s |
| 02:40.54 | Robbie-Rotten | Eso es lo que no entiendo. |
| 02:41.08 | Robbie-Rotten | Tienes actualizada tu distro? por si acaso. |
| 02:41.20 | Robbie-Rotten | aptitude update |
| 02:41.24 | Robbie-Rotten | aptitude upgrade |
| 02:41.49 | Elive_user26 | dejame tratar |
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| 02:42.09 | Robbie-Rotten | Thanatermesis. Estas? |
| 02:42.18 | Robbie-Rotten | Hola, mathesis. |
| 02:42.27 | mathesis | Thanatermesis, llevo dias queriendo conectar un montor externo |
| 02:42.31 | mathesis | hola Robbie-Rotten |
| 02:42.39 | Robbie-Rotten | Sabes porque en la version estable, no deja seleccional el check de personal? en el selector de themes? |
| 02:42.42 | mathesis | monitor externo |
| 02:42.45 | keyra | mathesis: que tal ? |
| 02:42.53 | mathesis | hi keyra |
| 02:43.02 | mathesis | como te va keyra |
| 02:43.09 | Robbie-Rotten | mathesis, Sabes porque en la version estable, no deja seleccional el check de personal? en el selector de themes? |
| 02:43.10 | mathesis | keyra eres un bot? |
| 02:43.14 | Robbie-Rotten | Si es un bot. |
| 02:43.16 | Robbie-Rotten | L |
| 02:43.24 | keyra | mathesis: you think so ? |
| 02:43.25 | mathesis | no se Robbie-Rotten |
| 02:43.47 | mathesis | si pienso eso |
| 02:44.05 | Robbie-Rotten | keyra bot |
| 02:44.14 | Robbie-Rotten | >O |
| 02:44.19 | keyra | Robbie-Rotten: bot |
| 02:44.28 | Robbie-Rotten | keyra bot? |
| 02:44.31 | Robbie-Rotten | Omfg its magic |
| 02:44.34 | mathesis | keyra de donde eres |
| 02:44.37 | Robbie-Rotten | L |
| 02:45.08 | Robbie-Rotten | mathesis, actualizaste hoy? |
| 02:45.28 | mathesis | no |
| 02:45.37 | mathesis | yo uso elive desde usb en eee pc |
| 02:45.46 | Robbie-Rotten | Porque? |
| 02:46.15 | Elive_user26 | oie Robbie, para que son los comandos que me diste? que hacen?? |
| 02:46.29 | Robbie-Rotten | actualizan |
| 02:46.42 | Elive_user26 | ah/ |
| 02:46.45 | mathesis | mi hdd en el eee pc es 2gb |
| 02:46.52 | Robbie-Rotten | oo |
| 02:46.52 | Elive_user26 | ya estan corriendo |
| 02:46.53 | mathesis | no alcanza instalar elive |
| 02:47.05 | Robbie-Rotten | oh cierto. |
| 02:47.53 | Elive_user26 | como me puedo cambiar el nombre aki en el chat? |
| 02:47.55 | Elive_user26 | =P |
| 02:48.45 | Robbie-Rotten | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.53 | Robbie-Rotten | sustituyendo name por el nombre que quieres. |
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| 02:49.17 | Adry | creo que ya |
| 02:49.20 | Robbie-Rotten | Si. |
| 02:49.24 | Adry | pero me dijo que ya esta ocupado |
| 02:49.30 | Adry | buscare otro hehehe muchas gracias |
| 02:49.35 | Robbie-Rotten | bueno |
| 02:49.42 | Adry | despues de que actualice, crees que funcione? |
| 02:49.54 | Adry | uy apenas va el 15% |
| 02:49.57 | Robbie-Rotten | Pues eso sabremos a la hora de probar |
| 02:49.58 | Adry | esta medio lento |
| 02:50.06 | Adry | sip |
| 02:50.07 | Robbie-Rotten | dios, hace cuanto que no actualizabas? |
| 02:50.22 | Adry | heehehe creo que.... no se |
| 02:50.38 | Adry | una vez use el apt-get update |
| 02:50.41 | Adry | es lo mismo? |
| 02:50.47 | Robbie-Rotten | Cada vez que puedas deberias actualizar tu sistema |
| 02:51.17 | Robbie-Rotten | apt-get update |
| 02:51.23 | Robbie-Rotten | es para actualizar nuestros repositorios |
| 02:51.45 | Adry | hohohohoh heheheh el otro dia ya no me funcionaba el repositorio |
| 02:51.47 | Robbie-Rotten | osea, la lista de paquetes |
| 02:51.53 | Adry | pero ya lo arregle |
| 02:51.56 | Adry | -P |
| 02:52.02 | Adry | es malo eso de ser nuevo |
| 02:52.08 | Adry | descompones todoooo.... |
| 02:52.17 | Robbie-Rotten | ahh esta bien |
| 02:52.26 | Robbie-Rotten | Que te motivo a usar elive? |
| 02:52.54 | Adry | pues iba a instalar ubunto, ya lo habia bajado y todo, pero me dijo un companero del trabajo que probara elive que estaba mucho mejor |
| 02:53.00 | Adry | y que era mas facil de aprender que ubuntu |
| 02:53.18 | Adry | mas..... no se..... se me hace dificil... mucho que leer y mucho tiempo que invertir |
| 02:53.22 | Adry | =p |
| 02:53.26 | Robbie-Rotten | xD |
| 02:53.49 | Adry | lo baje de la pagina de elivecd |
| 02:53.54 | Adry | solo done algo y yap |
| 02:53.57 | Robbie-Rotten | Donaste? |
| 02:54.00 | Robbie-Rotten | ah |
| 02:54.05 | Adry | sip |
| 02:54.25 | Robbie-Rotten | cuanto %? |
| 02:54.28 | Adry | por eso le estoy invirtiendo el tiempo hehehe sino ya no lo estuviera usando =P |
| 02:54.33 | Adry | el 29% |
| 02:54.36 | Robbie-Rotten | dios. |
| 02:54.52 | Adry | que se supone que me esta actualizando?? toda la distribucion?? |
| 02:54.56 | Adry | algo asi???.... |
| 02:55.02 | Robbie-Rotten | Algo asi |
| 02:55.41 | Adry | heheheh....tambien instale el Wndows UE sp3 |
| 02:55.46 | Adry | ese me gusto.... |
| 02:55.58 | Adry | pero bueno al fin y al cabo es windows |
| 02:56.04 | Robbie-Rotten | uww |
| 02:56.07 | Robbie-Rotten | windows |
| 02:56.22 | Adry | ups ojala no este prohibida esa palabra por aki hehehhe |
| 02:56.27 | Robbie-Rotten | no Lol |
| 02:56.44 | Adry | tengoo un companero del trabajo que vive alla en venezuela |
| 02:56.48 | Robbie-Rotten | LA palabra linux si debe andar prohibida en la estancia de ellos |
| 02:56.51 | Adry | desde alla trabaja |
| 02:56.58 | Adry | hehehhe |
| 02:57.10 | Robbie-Rotten | oh que bien, que parte de venezuela? |
| 02:57.26 | Adry | hehehe creo que la capital.... lol |
| 02:57.35 | Robbie-Rotten | Y trabaja por internet o0 |
| 02:57.36 | Robbie-Rotten | ? |
| 02:57.42 | Adry | sip |
| 02:57.49 | Adry | se conecta remotamente a la red de la empresa |
| 02:57.53 | Adry | y wuala |
| 02:58.08 | Robbie-Rotten | wow que nice |
| 02:58.28 | Adry | heheheh son muy buenos ingenieron.... |
| 02:58.33 | Robbie-Rotten | Trabajar desde su casa, interesante |
| 02:58.36 | Robbie-Rotten | en que te especializas? |
| 02:58.49 | Adry | informatica |
| 02:59.14 | Robbie-Rotten | que bien. |
| 03:00.03 | Adry | lo malo que no nos dieron clase de Linux..... lol =P |
| 03:00.45 | Robbie-Rotten | y te obligan a usar linux? xD |
| 03:01.34 | Adry | hehhehe lo estoy tomando como algo cultural |
| 03:02.31 | Robbie-Rotten | que bien |
| 03:02.56 | Robbie-Rotten | Y que te parece? todavia te quedas con windows? |
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| 03:03.47 | Adry | uy |
| 03:04.05 | Adry | pues hasta que aprenda un 50 o 60 % de linux podre tomar esa decision |
| 03:04.08 | Adry | creo ... |
| 03:04.13 | Robbie-Rotten | jajaja bien. |
| 03:04.39 | Adry | heheheh mas no se cuanto tiempo me tomara aprenderlo heheheh |
| 03:04.56 | Adry | solo tengo chance de picarle despues del trabajo asi que solo me quedan como 1 o 2 horas maximas diario |
| 03:05.11 | Adry | pero bueno.... ya veremos al pasar de los anos... |
| 03:05.13 | Robbie-Rotten | Esta bien |
| 03:05.16 | Robbie-Rotten | sip |
| 03:05.37 | Adry | ya va el 60% |
| 03:05.56 | Robbie-Rotten | Que coneccion tienes? |
| 03:06.08 | Adry | 1 mega nada mas |
| 03:06.14 | Adry | :S |
| 03:06.20 | Adry | ah de ser eso |
| 03:06.30 | Robbie-Rotten | umm quizas |
| 03:18.39 | Robbie-Rotten | BRB. |
| 03:20.16 | Adry | ok |
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| 03:31.55 | Adry | ya teremino Robbie |
| 03:32.01 | Adry | pero no funciono de todas maneras :s |
| 03:32.23 | Adry | mmm me dare por vencida por hoy hehehhe |
| 03:32.23 | Adry | lol |
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| 03:33.44 | Elive_user14_es | Hi all |
| 03:34.22 | offray_ | Hi all again :) |
| 03:34.42 | offray_ | I'm using elive testing and is working like a charm |
| 03:35.32 | offray_ | I just wanto to pass by and say thanks :) |
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| 04:39.29 | ogrosticlops | just installed the lasted devel, still looking GREAT! |
| 04:39.40 | ogrosticlops | *latest |
| 04:40.13 | ogrosticlops | pidgin won't run, but i figure i can remove and rebuild it |
| 04:40.35 | LinuxNIT-II | thats not good |
| 04:40.49 | LinuxNIT-II | does it give an error? |
| 04:41.12 | ogrosticlops | just the generic "enlightenment is unable to run this application" |
| 04:41.26 | LinuxNIT-II | run it from a terminal and see if it gives a messag |
| 04:41.28 | ogrosticlops | i'll run it from command line in a moment and see what it spits |
| 04:42.06 | ogrosticlops | wouldn't run on the livecd either, i checked the md5 before burning, and it verifies the disc before installation |
| 04:42.14 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 04:42.20 | keyra | ogrosticlops: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 04:42.50 | ogrosticlops | well, when I do a whereis pidgin, it can't find it, just pidgin: |
| 04:43.18 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-cache policy pidgin |
| 04:44.56 | ogrosticlops | installed (none) Candidate: 2.4.3-2 |
| 04:45.04 | ogrosticlops | just just apt-get it, i'm assuming? |
| 04:45.05 | LinuxNIT-II | well apparently not installed |
| 04:45.08 | LinuxNIT-II | yes |
| 04:45.26 | ogrosticlops | shouldn't it have been installed on the livecd and therefore on the initial install? |
| 04:45.46 | LinuxNIT-II | im not sure if its supposed to be there or not |
| 04:45.47 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 04:45.55 | LinuxNIT-II | dosent use it much |
| 04:46.01 | ogrosticlops | hah, it's in the app list and all |
| 04:46.12 | ogrosticlops | well, that's the fun of running a devel release |
| 04:47.03 | ogrosticlops | in and working |
| 04:47.39 | ogrosticlops | I often forget when coming back to this that it's deb based, always want to build from source |
| 04:47.52 | ogrosticlops | made some changes to the bootloader as well, hopefully i'll brb |
| 04:47.57 | LinuxNIT-II | ah |
| 04:47.57 | ogrosticlops | also, thank you. |
| 04:48.02 | LinuxNIT-II | well ill let the developer know |
| 04:48.06 | LinuxNIT-II | youre welcome |
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| 04:50.25 | ogrosticlops | Well, everything looks good thus far |
| 04:50.59 | ogrosticlops | as far as in development goes, I was looking forward to coming back to this after giving Windows 7 a short run |
| 04:51.51 | LinuxNIT-II | windows 7 thats the "vista that works" right? |
| 04:52.06 | ogrosticlops | Works better in some ways, far worse in even more |
| 04:52.12 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 04:52.19 | LinuxNIT-II | wonderful |
| 04:52.20 | ogrosticlops | but i can't really criticize an alpha build |
| 04:52.26 | LinuxNIT-II | true |
| 04:52.40 | LinuxNIT-II | i heard it was supposed to be released in like 6 months |
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| 04:53.08 | ogrosticlops | a lot of the firefox functionality is broken in it, nothing ever seems to download, or even show up in the toolbar, you can only choose to open immediatly in FF and not even a status bar around for it |
| 04:53.15 | ogrosticlops | Windows 7 is slated for 2010 |
| 04:53.28 | ogrosticlops | Beta 1 should be out in the first quarter of next year |
| 04:53.42 | LinuxNIT-II | oh |
| 04:53.48 | LinuxNIT-II | i guess that person was wrong |
| 04:54.02 | LinuxNIT-II | where do you get beta copies to play with? |
| 04:54.07 | LinuxNIT-II | or alpha i guess |
| 04:54.45 | ogrosticlops | it was fun toying with, and to see some of the directions they are going in, but ultimately it's too early to heckle it for what it lacks, but i'm sure with each beta release i'll get mean if the same problems arise |
| 04:55.02 | ogrosticlops | Milestone 3 was released at the PDC in October |
| 04:55.48 | ogrosticlops | I obtained it illegally, and ran it with no key, on the 30 day trial that you can use a slmgr -rearm a few times to take it up to 240 days unrestricted |
| 04:56.07 | LinuxNIT-II | i see |
| 04:56.32 | ogrosticlops | people are activating it and actually calling MS and getting activated versions using beta 2 and RC1 windows keys, though |
| 04:56.48 | ogrosticlops | er, Vista B2 & RC1 keys |
| 04:57.06 | LinuxNIT-II | people must get excited about it |
| 04:57.15 | ogrosticlops | Why, I'm not sure |
| 04:57.20 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
| 04:57.43 | ogrosticlops | they have a new start bar that isn't even enabled in then newest build, but a patch is out there to unlock all of the new "Aero Shake" visual features |
| 04:57.57 | ogrosticlops | it looks and acts like a transparent KDE 4 bar |
| 04:58.07 | ogrosticlops | hell, even KDE 3, just polished a bit |
| 04:58.17 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 04:58.30 | LinuxNIT-II | so they are playing catchup with linux still |
| 04:58.39 | ogrosticlops | visually, yeah |
| 04:58.59 | LinuxNIT-II | right visually |
| 04:59.40 | ogrosticlops | to try to compare it from a software/hardware aspect it stupid.. linux has so many alternatives for most common programs for windows users |
| 05:00.00 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah i know |
| 05:00.30 | ogrosticlops | the only faults will be some things that are underdeveloped for linux. We have to keep an XP machine here to use one of our Mackie sound mixers |
| 05:01.25 | ogrosticlops | Mackie is falling so far behind on some things, they haven't even released an XP 64 bit driver for the mixing board my friend is using |
| 05:01.39 | keyra | ogrosticlops: is not very useful, you can't have "optimization" using 64 bits, the optimization is too minor to be considered, by other side you then can't have flash, java, or codecs, apart that the applications then requires the double of size in you RAM |
| 05:02.53 | ogrosticlops | ... and to be able to use sonar 8 in 64bit would be nice, as it has proven to be stable and being able to use all 6gb of ram would apparently be a blessing to him |
| 05:03.07 | ogrosticlops | Personally, I don't care |
| 05:03.36 | ogrosticlops | Windows 7 will look nice, will come out faster than it likely should and will probably end in the same driver war that Vista did. |
| 05:03.56 | LinuxNIT-II | no doubt |
| 05:04.38 | LinuxNIT-II | brb |
| 05:05.04 | ogrosticlops | I don't suppose there's a short way to install a few other WMs and display managers with this short of using apt-get and manually changing xorg,etc.. |
| 05:05.51 | ogrosticlops | I'd like to keep a gnome desktop available, and my slackware distro is on a drive i'm likely going to wipe and throw out |
| 05:05.53 | LinuxNIT-II | well i guess you could compile them if you dont want to use apt-get |
| 05:06.12 | LinuxNIT-II | as for editing xorg im not sure why you would need to |
| 05:06.37 | LinuxNIT-II | entrance should recognize other wms and allow you to login to them or you can use gdm |
| 05:06.44 | ogrosticlops | apt-get being the shortest, and i've been trying to sway my wife to not reboot into vista |
| 05:07.03 | LinuxNIT-II | i would try to do the same, if my wife had vista |
| 05:07.04 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 05:07.14 | ogrosticlops | okay, I wasn't sure if Entrance allowed session management |
| 05:07.21 | LinuxNIT-II | is trying to keep vista out of his house as long as possible |
| 05:08.02 | ogrosticlops | She hated openoffice at first, now loves it, and she's getting to know her way around gnome pretty well, and loves compiz effects |
| 05:08.14 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
| 05:08.47 | LinuxNIT-II | my wife isnt on the pc enough for me to bother with pushing linux on her |
| 05:09.46 | ogrosticlops | She has an XP box for graphic design, and other than that uses my laptop which has ubuntu |
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| 05:10.28 | LinuxNIT-II | just get her to use gimp and you wont need xp ;) |
| 05:10.50 | ogrosticlops | she really dislikes it |
| 05:11.48 | ogrosticlops | I could just do PS in Wine, but the laptop is underpowered for it, and for her box I don't really want to get into how to set up her wacom under linux |
| 05:11.48 | LinuxNIT-II | ah |
| 05:12.13 | ogrosticlops | that's a task for a day off |
| 05:12.22 | LinuxNIT-II | you use ubuntu, dosent it already have it configured? |
| 05:12.46 | ogrosticlops | the wacom? |
| 05:13.12 | LinuxNIT-II | yes |
| 05:13.21 | ogrosticlops | it's on her older desktop machine, not the laptop |
| 05:13.47 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 05:14.06 | ogrosticlops | She has no problem with me keeping empty arcade cabinets in the house, i'll let her have her tablet and XP box |
| 05:14.50 | ogrosticlops | you said you're married.. it's all about compromise |
| 05:15.12 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 05:15.33 | ogrosticlops | actually, I may take that slack drive and put it in her machine, install ubuntu while she's at work and see how it goes with Wine and PS + wacom |
| 05:16.15 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
| 05:16.32 | ogrosticlops | you know, offer her the dual boot option |
| 05:16.47 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah |
| 05:17.06 | LinuxNIT-II | i admit i have dual boot once again |
| 05:17.26 | LinuxNIT-II | i managed to do with out for a year or two but now i have a program that i dont trust wine with |
| 05:18.26 | ogrosticlops | she wasn't too keen about linux to start, then her machine went down and she ended up using one of these IBM Netfinity 5000 machines I keep downstairs, she IM'd my phone a few times for general questions, googled the rest and didn't mind it.. I came home and she was burning DVDs and had mounted drives in my machine to get to music |
| 05:19.00 | LinuxNIT-II | impressive |
| 05:19.50 | ogrosticlops | I keep windows around to flash Xbox360s when a new hacked firmware comes out, that's about it.. and I can't trust a virtual machine to do it |
| 05:20.23 | LinuxNIT-II | i would not trust one for that eithe |
| 05:20.24 | LinuxNIT-II | r |
| 05:21.58 | ogrosticlops | some of the newer programs write directly using the ATA controller with a sata adapter, just sounded like risky business to me. |
| 05:24.01 | ogrosticlops | okay, back to business, time to install ndiswrapper and get my netgear going |
| 05:24.13 | LinuxNIT-II | and i need to go to bed |
| 05:24.17 | LinuxNIT-II | you have a good night |
| 05:24.20 | ogrosticlops | someone here is going to trip over the cables |
| 05:24.25 | ogrosticlops | you too, nice talk. |
| 05:24.36 | LinuxNIT-II | nice talking to you too |
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| 10:57.12 | twinkie_addict | one word , wow ! |
| 10:57.24 | twinkie_addict | very nice looking desktop |
| 10:59.33 | twinkie_addict | hmmm seems piding doesnt want to start |
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| 11:01.35 | twinkie_addict | hello |
| 11:08.38 | twinkie_addict | nice reinstalling pidgin fixed insue :) |
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| 11:39.10 | get | ^^ |
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| 12:47.48 | Elive_user28_en | hello |
| 12:49.19 | DammitJim | morning |
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| 12:52.43 | Elive_user28_en | hello |
| 12:52.55 | Elive_user28_en | do you know how wrok the gadget network? |
| 12:53.13 | DammitJim | on 1.9.15? |
| 12:53.53 | Elive_user28_en | yes |
| 12:54.13 | Elive_user28_en | his name he is gestionnaire de connexion |
| 12:54.15 | Elive_user28_en | ? |
| 12:55.04 | DammitJim | uuummmmm |
| 12:55.15 | DammitJim | I'm not sure... it hasn't really worked for me 'cause it didn't detect my wireless card |
| 12:55.18 | DammitJim | are you doing wireless? |
| 12:55.25 | Elive_user28_en | no he detect nothing |
| 12:55.34 | DammitJim | right |
| 12:55.38 | DammitJim | what laptop do you have? |
| 12:55.54 | Elive_user28_en | dell latitude d630 |
| 12:56.35 | DammitJim | ha |
| 12:56.39 | DammitJim | that's what I have, Issa |
| 12:56.41 | DammitJim | and it's a nogo |
| 12:56.46 | DammitJim | because of our broadcom drivers |
| 12:57.00 | DammitJim | are you doing wired or wireless? |
| 12:57.35 | Issa | wireless i musing crypted wpa2 netwokr with wpa suppliant, dificult to install it, but now works |
| 12:57.48 | Issa | and i need to make it easy |
| 12:58.09 | DammitJim | so, it is working? |
| 12:58.33 | Issa | yes |
| 12:58.38 | Issa | i m using now |
| 12:59.06 | Issa | but i need start it and closit with command line, and not good, i want a real netwokr manager |
| 12:59.13 | DammitJim | oh |
| 12:59.20 | DammitJim | you can't use the one that comes with the machine? |
| 12:59.23 | DammitJim | try wicd |
| 12:59.30 | DammitJim | apt-get update && apt-get install wicd |
| 12:59.44 | LinuxNIT-II | Issa, is this for the network with wpa2 enterprise? |
| 12:59.54 | Issa | yes |
| 13:00.05 | LinuxNIT-II | can you send me your wpa.conf? |
| 13:01.19 | Issa | for this connectioni need to step, first i need certificatits |
| 13:01.43 | Issa | and second configure this files : /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 13:01.45 | LinuxNIT-II | and these are stored on your laptop right? |
| 13:01.50 | Issa | ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant |
| 13:01.50 | Issa | eapol_version=1 |
| 13:01.50 | Issa | ap_scan=1 |
| 13:01.50 | Issa | fast_reauth=1 |
| 13:01.50 | Issa | network={ |
| 13:01.51 | Issa | ssid="eduroam" |
| 13:01.53 | Issa | proto=WPA2 WPA |
| 13:01.55 | Issa | scan_ssid=1 |
| 13:01.57 | Issa | key_mgmt=WPA-EAP |
| 13:01.59 | Issa | eap=TTLS |
| 13:02.01 | Issa | # Phase1 / outer authentication |
| 13:02.03 | Issa | anonymous_identity="anonymous@votre_domaine.fr" |
| 13:02.05 | Issa | ca_cert="/etc/ssl/certs/ct_root.cer" |
| 13:02.07 | Issa | subject_match="radius.u-bordeaux.fr" |
| 13:02.11 | Issa | # Phase 2 / inner authentication |
| 13:02.13 | Issa | phase2="auth=PAP" |
| 13:02.15 | Issa | identity="votre_nom_d_utilisateur@votre_domaine.fr" |
| 13:02.17 | Issa | password="votre_mot_de_passe" |
| 13:02.19 | Issa | } |
| 13:02.21 | Issa | and to active the connection i need to do this : |
| 13:02.23 | Issa | wpa_supplicant -D wext -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 13:02.25 | Issa | dhclient eth1 |
| 13:02.27 | Issa | and ofcourse change eth1 by wlan0 |
| 13:02.34 | LinuxNIT-II | right |
| 13:02.36 | LinuxNIT-II | thanks |
| 13:03.09 | LinuxNIT-II | you only need one certificate is that right? |
| 13:03.31 | Issa | yes |
| 13:04.26 | DammitJim | wow.. thanks, LinuxNIT-II and sorry for guiding Issa in the wrong direction |
| 13:06.07 | LinuxNIT-II | no i dont think you were guiding him in the wrong direction |
| 13:06.31 | LinuxNIT-II | i believe wicd can do that type of configuratoin, im working on adding that type to net-connector |
| 13:09.37 | DammitJim | oh yeah? you are the man! high 5 |
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| 13:12.11 | Issa | LinuxNIT, the certificat he is on : /etc/ssl/certs/ |
| 13:13.14 | LinuxNIT-II | right |
| 13:13.27 | LinuxNIT-II | Issa, can i also get the output from the command: iwlist scan |
| 13:13.38 | LinuxNIT-II | run as root |
| 13:13.47 | DammitJim | :) |
| 13:14.37 | LinuxNIT-II | thanks |
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| 14:37.59 | Mtraker | hi |
| 14:39.25 | Mtraker | i want to find a file in elive. what program it's better? in gnome i used beagle |
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| 14:46.16 | p1asma | Thanatermesis: why are you still unaffiliated? didnt request a group? |
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| 14:54.15 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, i simply don't worry much about that :) |
| 14:55.52 | p1asma | ok |
| 14:56.02 | p1asma | was just curious if you did one and maybe still wait |
| 14:56.13 | p1asma | because freenodes handly really really sucks there |
| 14:56.23 | p1asma | peoples waiting for years for an approve |
| 14:56.57 | p1asma | other peoples speaking directly to christel getting this set up within seconds without going the mandatory procedure |
| 14:57.00 | p1asma | really sick |
| 14:58.22 | p1asma | s/handly/handling/ |
| 14:58.24 | p1asma | :P |
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| 14:59.46 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis, un buscador tipo beagle para elive? |
| 14:59.52 | Mtraker | buenas a todo esto |
| 14:59.55 | Mtraker | :-) |
| 15:00.06 | keyra | Mtraker: nas nas |
| 15:02.17 | Thanatermesis | hola Mtraker :) pues ni idea, nunca he usado esas cosas |
| 15:02.31 | keyra | Thanatermesis: que tal ? |
| 15:02.43 | Mtraker | es que tengo mas de 10000 fotos y llevo toda la tarde buscando |
| 15:03.11 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, like i say, don't worry much... i just don't have time for that |
| 15:03.21 | Thanatermesis | Mtraker, en que consiste beagle ? |
| 15:04.16 | Mtraker | esta hecho con mono, y te hace una base de datos con todo lo que tienes. indexa todo . De hecho haces una busqueda de un texto y lo busca dentro de los pdf y todo |
| 15:05.46 | Thanatermesis | ah suena muy bien |
| 15:05.50 | Thanatermesis | excepto la parte del mono xD |
| 15:05.55 | Mtraker | XD |
| 15:06.06 | Thanatermesis | es como un locate pero mas humano... |
| 15:06.14 | Thanatermesis | debe de tardar siglos en indexar, no ? |
| 15:06.54 | Mtraker | si, pero una vez lo hace las busquedas son instantaneas |
| 15:07.39 | Mtraker | estoy probando la ultima release |
| 15:07.50 | Mtraker | de elive |
| 15:07.58 | Mtraker | esta andando de momento muy bien |
| 15:08.14 | Mtraker | sigo con un fallo de resolucion pero lo resolveré |
| 15:08.56 | Mtraker | sigo hechando en falta que esto tenga exposé |
| 15:09.34 | Mtraker | habeis quitado el e16? |
| 15:13.56 | Thanatermesis | si, se ha quitado |
| 15:14.03 | Thanatermesis | lo del expose... ya se verá con el tiempo ;) |
| 15:14.32 | Thanatermesis | estoy haciendo un programita para conectar por 3g los moviles a internet (con elive) |
| 15:14.42 | Mtraker | me interesa :-p |
| 15:17.15 | Thanatermesis | pues pretende poder conectar todos los moviles del mundo (compañÃas) :) |
| 15:17.18 | Thanatermesis | sigues con yoigo ? |
| 15:17.24 | Thanatermesis | me iba a ir unos dias a valencia |
| 15:17.34 | Thanatermesis | las valencianas parecen mucho mas simpaticas que las barcelonesas xD |
| 15:17.38 | Mtraker | si |
| 15:17.57 | Mtraker | lo de yoigo dig |
| 15:18.19 | Mtraker | simpaticas no se, pero chillan más |
| 15:18.54 | Mtraker | que opinas de google-desktop? |
| 15:22.23 | Thanatermesis | chillan mas... en la cama te refieres ? xDDD |
| 15:22.56 | DammitJim | no sean malcriados! |
| 15:25.40 | Thanatermesis | pues nose Mtraker, no lo he probado, la verdad es que todas las cosas de google tienen muy buena pinta pero no las uso mucho |
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| 15:27.35 | PaperBear | hello everyone |
| 15:28.55 | PaperBear | I have a question - not intended to offend, but I am in 2 minds.... what makes elive better than debian with enlightenment as a desktop? |
| 15:29.24 | Mtraker | elpanel |
| 15:29.45 | Mtraker | optimizated |
| 15:29.53 | PaperBear | for what? |
| 15:30.17 | Mtraker | for video, images... |
| 15:30.19 | Mtraker | codecs |
| 15:31.42 | PaperBear | so is there a decent range of codecs available out of the box? |
| 15:32.53 | Thanatermesis | everything is out of the box in Elive :) |
| 15:33.13 | PaperBear | is the intention that I will never have to touch things like xorg.conf ? |
| 15:33.18 | Thanatermesis | just try it, download the development version that is pretty new than the actual stable version |
| 15:33.26 | Thanatermesis | exactly |
| 15:33.39 | Thanatermesis | the idea is to have a working out-of-the-box system, intuitive, ready to use for everybody |
| 15:34.58 | PaperBear | I would be highly surprised and impressed if that were the case for me - but only because I have some meta-modes for my dual-screen setup where one of them switches off when a game uses fullscreen |
| 15:35.19 | PaperBear | so, nvidia driver works out of the box? |
| 15:37.09 | Thanatermesis | i think that this switch-off is normal in dual-monitors |
| 15:37.30 | DammitJim | it does, PaperBear |
| 15:37.32 | Thanatermesis | maybe you can use a special-config by nvidia but that's what normally does the xinerama |
| 15:37.33 | DammitJim | but beware |
| 15:37.42 | DammitJim | if you are going to do dual monitors and you use nvidia-settings |
| 15:37.47 | DammitJim | you might mess up the default config |
| 15:38.55 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, what do you use to search for torrents? |
| 15:38.56 | PaperBear | Thanatermesis, no, it isnt automatic - without a metamode like "1680x1050, NULL" - fullscreen will try to stretch itself across both, or other weirdness |
| 15:39.09 | keyra | DammitJim: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 15:39.14 | DammitJim | shut up, keyra |
| 15:39.26 | PaperBear | Dammit lol |
| 15:39.28 | keyra | DammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 15:39.36 | DammitJim | shut up and kiss me, keyra |
| 15:39.50 | keyra | DammitJim: :-# |
| 15:40.10 | DammitJim | mmmmmm |
| 15:41.08 | PaperBear | okay - so... next question..... is it worth paying for the stable release? |
| 15:41.54 | DammitJim | no, PaperBear ... it's not |
| 15:41.59 | DammitJim | but you should pay regardless |
| 15:42.01 | DammitJim | and get the dev |
| 15:42.06 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, torrents.to |
| 15:42.25 | PaperBear | DammitJim, I will pay if I adopt it |
| 15:42.26 | DammitJim | torrents.to ? |
| 15:42.35 | Thanatermesis | PaperBear, i recommend you to use the next stable (not available yet), the actual development version is a lot more featured |
| 15:42.39 | DammitJim | ok... 'cause I want to download Elive stable w/o paying |
| 15:42.41 | DammitJim | LMAO |
| 15:42.42 | Thanatermesis | but if you want a STABLE system for somebody.. then use stable |
| 15:42.49 | DammitJim | runs stable at home |
| 15:42.52 | keyra | DammitJim: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk lol |
| 15:43.13 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, ETA for stable? |
| 15:43.16 | Thanatermesis | its different, development is more featured but can broke :) |
| 15:43.23 | Thanatermesis | well, is pretty stable too |
| 15:43.27 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, first, release of debian stable |
| 15:43.33 | DammitJim | when is that? |
| 15:43.35 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, http://www.elivecd.org/test3 |
| 15:43.50 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, maybe 1 or 2 years more (lol joke) |
| 15:44.07 | DammitJim | imbecil!!! |
| 15:44.56 | PaperBear | its a bit of a difficult choice, without knowing how featured stable is - what is missing etc |
| 15:45.24 | DammitJim | ok... I definitely can't go to torrents.to, Thanatermesis ... that site has too many boobies and butts! |
| 15:45.32 | DammitJim | PaperBear, just try it |
| 15:45.37 | DammitJim | unstable is free |
| 15:45.42 | PaperBear | if I download the dev version and its buggy, I'll probably lose faith - after all, I can pick up debian stable for nowt |
| 15:45.48 | DammitJim | stable is very stable, though... I've been runnning it for months @ home |
| 15:46.05 | DammitJim | debian stable is behind in features, though |
| 15:46.20 | DammitJim | mach@mach[~]$ uptime |
| 15:46.20 | DammitJim | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.27 | DammitJim | and that's only because I moved homes |
| 15:46.28 | DammitJim | lol |
| 15:46.29 | PaperBear | DammitJim, not my point - I can download unstable for free too ;) |
| 15:46.49 | DammitJim | yeah, but Elive is more beautiful |
| 15:47.16 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, try the search button in the top of torrents.to, it search in differents torrents websites |
| 15:47.16 | PaperBear | DammitJim, what is (potentially) unstable about the development tree ? |
| 15:47.30 | keyra | Thanatermesis: do not use torrents, somebody make fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons, and maybe dangerous commands too, you can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 15:47.50 | DammitJim | PaperBear, not much, really... |
| 15:48.02 | DammitJim | once in a while I've gotten a lockup of my browser |
| 15:48.08 | DammitJim | or e17 lockup |
| 15:48.10 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, 136 days ? you want to make a new record ? :) |
| 15:48.14 | DammitJim | but never a true failure |
| 15:48.27 | DammitJim | shut up, Thanatermesis... I would have beat the record, but I moved homes in July, remember? |
| 15:48.35 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, who has run it per more of 450 days has lost the uptime because his children has press the power button |
| 15:48.41 | DammitJim | lol... and the backup UPS only lasted me 30 mins |
| 15:48.43 | DammitJim | so, I shut it down |
| 15:48.51 | DammitJim | NO NO NO NO |
| 15:48.53 | DammitJim | are you serious? |
| 15:48.56 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 15:49.02 | PaperBear | DammitJim, okay... so 1.9.14 or 1.9.15 ? |
| 15:49.08 | DammitJim | NO NO NO NO... tell that person to take the power button off!!! |
| 15:49.10 | Thanatermesis | let me show you my conversation |
| 15:49.16 | Thanatermesis | PaperBear, the last, of course :), .15 |
| 15:49.28 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, he has lost the uptime |
| 15:49.28 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, did you fix the Broadcom issue on .15? |
| 15:49.33 | DammitJim | NO NO NO NO |
| 15:49.38 | DammitJim | well, we can wait another year and a half |
| 15:49.40 | PaperBear | Thanatermesis, well, I ask since this is the only chance I'm going to give it ;) |
| 15:49.45 | DammitJim | and he'll be back where he was |
| 15:49.59 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, see the conversation: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NyRQd28Dj5k |
| 15:50.02 | DammitJim | doesn't think Elive is for everyone |
| 15:50.32 | Thanatermesis | PaperBear, .15 has a lot better network configurator (bugs fixed) than in .14, also better macbook support |
| 15:51.36 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 15:51.42 | DammitJim | I can't believe it |
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| 15:54.30 | Thanatermesis | PaperBear, Elive has a kind of giant infinite list of features/configurations/modifications/adaptations than debian that is almost not possible to describe all |
| 15:54.47 | Thanatermesis | you can found everytime a new nice thing on it |
| 15:54.49 | Thanatermesis | discover* |
| 15:55.25 | PaperBear | if I'm honest, this channel has helped it's cause |
| 15:55.42 | DammitJim | agrees with PaperBear... especially keyra |
| 15:56.38 | PaperBear | of course, as soon as I install it and run into a problem, the channel will be full of pre-pubescent american kids, but for now, it's very pleasant :) |
| 15:57.20 | DammitJim | is an american kid |
| 15:57.22 | DammitJim | j/k |
| 15:58.36 | PaperBear | well, you appear to be a native english speaker.... |
| 16:02.52 | PaperBear | anyway, you have to be post-pubescent with a handle like DammitJim |
| 16:06.54 | Thanatermesis | <PaperBear> of course, as soon as I install it and run into a problem, the channel will be full of pre-pubescent american kids, but for now, it's very pleasant :) |
| 16:07.02 | Thanatermesis | then report me the problem |
| 16:07.16 | PaperBear | Thanatermesis, I was only joshing |
| 16:07.33 | PaperBear | is anyone running VMware? |
| 16:07.49 | DammitJim | is pre-pubescent 'cause his voice gets lost sometimes |
| 16:07.52 | DammitJim | I was |
| 16:07.57 | DammitJim | now I'm running vbox |
| 16:07.59 | DammitJim | why, PaperBear ? |
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| 16:08.19 | PaperBear | I want to run windows (spits) |
| 16:08.26 | PaperBear | that phrase hurt |
| 16:08.30 | DammitJim | is running xp and vista |
| 16:08.32 | PaperBear | I *need* to run windows |
| 16:08.49 | PaperBear | DammitJim, with vbox ? |
| 16:08.54 | DammitJim | needs to run windows, too... for work |
| 16:08.55 | Thanatermesis | why you need to run windows PaperBear ? |
| 16:09.03 | DammitJim | openoffice is not 100% compatible with OFfice 2007 |
| 16:09.06 | DammitJim | yes, wiith vbox |
| 16:10.14 | PaperBear | Thanatermesis, apps - I run sage for accounts, 3d studio max, etc. there are others |
| 16:10.14 | Mtraker | DammitJim, MSoffice is not compatible with openoffice |
| 16:10.34 | Thanatermesis | PaperBear, some apps works in Elive too... not all of course, maye 3d studio no (big app) |
| 16:10.45 | DammitJim | is running elive unstable 1.8.2 with vbox of 1.9.14 |
| 16:10.46 | DammitJim | LOL |
| 16:11.07 | PaperBear | Thanatermesis, I *know* there are OSS alternatives to everything, but that means learning a lot for something I dont necessarily use a lot |
| 16:11.07 | utilisateur | they are so desperately incompetent |
| 16:11.27 | utilisateur | will someone help me ? |
| 16:11.30 | PaperBear | DammitJim, whats the performance like? |
| 16:11.36 | DammitJim | within vbox? |
| 16:11.40 | PaperBear | DammitJim, yeah |
| 16:11.41 | utilisateur | they are destryoing me |
| 16:11.43 | DammitJim | they run fairly well for just office stuff, ya know? |
| 16:11.55 | DammitJim | my problem is that my laptop only has 2GB of RAM |
| 16:12.06 | DammitJim | and I'm running out of it w/windows, ya know? |
| 16:12.09 | PaperBear | DammitJim, is it particularly ram hungry then? |
| 16:12.23 | DammitJim | windows is, of course |
| 16:12.25 | DammitJim | especially vista |
| 16:12.31 | DammitJim | but elive isn't RAM hungry |
| 16:12.33 | DammitJim | ya know what I mean? |
| 16:12.37 | PaperBear | DammitJim, I only need XP. vista can do one |
| 16:12.50 | DammitJim | has to run vista to try things out for users |
| 16:12.52 | PaperBear | I have 4gb to play with here |
| 16:12.58 | DammitJim | then you should be fine |
| 16:13.13 | PaperBear | and I run xp on a laptop with < 1 GB, and its performance is alright |
| 16:13.19 | DammitJim | the only problem I have encountered (For which I'm sure there is a solution) is that Vbox doesn't do well with Video stuff |
| 16:13.32 | DammitJim | oh yeah... I got vista on a 1GB laptop at home :) |
| 16:13.33 | keyra | DammitJim: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 16:13.43 | DammitJim | shut up, keyra... or I'm going to give it to you! |
| 16:13.57 | keyra | DammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 16:14.24 | DammitJim | can say that Elive has been awesome for the last year that I've been using it @ the office |
| 16:14.30 | DammitJim | as his main OS |
| 16:14.37 | PaperBear | so - just as a vague idea - what sort of % performance am I likely to get (just htinking about a bit of potential gaming, for instance) |
| 16:14.49 | DammitJim | heck... for anything else, I've been using Remote Desktop to a server where I have other apps I can't run on LInux |
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| 16:15.02 | DammitJim | that I can't speak on... |
| 16:15.06 | DammitJim | doesn't game |
| 16:15.58 | PaperBear | neither do I - apart from a bit of urbanterror from time to time... but the thought of having filthy old windows on a decent machine does open up the possibility.... |
| 16:16.11 | DammitJim | true... |
| 16:16.18 | DammitJim | sorry, but I can't help you on that one |
| 16:16.34 | DammitJim | I haven't ran Adobe CS3 on there, yet |
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| 16:16.59 | PaperBear | oh yeah - flash development is another one... speak of the devil.. |
| 16:17.13 | DammitJim | yuck! but true |
| 16:17.29 | PaperBear | I did have a go at using eclipse once, but it wasnt pretty. |
| 16:18.34 | DammitJim | eclipse isn't bad |
| 16:18.40 | Issa | Thanatermesis, ping |
| 16:19.02 | Issa | Thanatermesis, j'ia du mal avec l'accé FTP, comment faire, svp, car gftp totalement instable |
| 16:20.13 | DammitJim | is running 1.9.15 in vbox now |
| 16:20.19 | DammitJim | wants to check out the surprises |
| 16:21.03 | PaperBear | DammitJim, no, it wasnt eclipse that was the problem, it was the add-on I needed, and my inability to use it successfully. |
| 16:21.13 | DammitJim | ah |
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| 16:22.56 | PaperBear | DammitJim, how simple is installation of vbox then? |
| 16:23.25 | DammitJim | apt-get install vbox |
| 16:23.28 | DammitJim | I think |
| 16:23.35 | assasukasse_eee | issa what is the problem |
| 16:23.44 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, does it come witih 1.9.15? I thought it came with 1.8.2 |
| 16:24.10 | DammitJim | sorry |
| 16:24.11 | DammitJim | I think it's |
| 16:24.45 | DammitJim | apt-get update && apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.25.16-elive-686 |
| 16:24.59 | keyra | DammitJim: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:25.42 | PaperBear | apparently, keyras got it in for you ;) |
| 16:26.00 | DammitJim | I know, she loves me |
| 16:26.06 | PaperBear | ooh, this looks nice |
| 16:26.51 | DammitJim | what does? |
| 16:27.00 | PaperBear | this elive malarky :) |
| 16:27.48 | DammitJim | lol |
| 16:28.13 | PaperBear | okay, I'm installing |
| 16:29.09 | DammitJim | you are installing or starting the LiveCD? |
| 16:29.24 | DammitJim | PaperBear, I'd say.. if anything, you can try whatever you want just in the LiveCD w/o installing anything |
| 16:29.36 | PaperBear | DammitJim, do i need a partition available for vbox to use? |
| 16:30.20 | DammitJim | no partition necessary |
| 16:30.46 | DammitJim | but vbox needs to create a virtual file system... |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> ok, laptop question |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> I'm looking at a laptop with this processor |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> Intel® Core⢠2 Duo T8300 (2.4GHz/800Mhz FSB/3MB cache) |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> but the RAM is only |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz |
| 16:34.18 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> am I not taking advantage of the 800MHz of the processor with 667MHz RAM/ |
| 16:34.22 | DammitJim | <DammitJim> ? |
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| 16:39.37 | PaperBear | DammitJim, I think it's largely irrelevant |
| 16:41.11 | DammitJim | what do you mean? |
| 16:41.16 | DammitJim | is hoping he can learn something |
| 16:43.19 | Issa-Elive | hello |
| 16:43.27 | DammitJim | hi |
| 16:43.44 | PaperBear | well - my fsb and ram bus dont match - I dont *know*, but I imagine that is only ever going to be a performance issue if you're doing very memory hungry operations |
| 16:43.46 | Issa-BetaElive | hello |
| 16:44.20 | Issa-BetaElive | well i need to know how to use thunar with more function, like acces ftp, windows network, please, |
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| 16:49.20 | PaperBear | DammitJim: As an example, let me talk about PC2-4200, aka DDR2-533. This RAM has a clock rate of 266 MHz and transfers twice a clock cycle. Each transfer is 64 bits wide. So a single DDR2-533 channel can provide 4,266 MB/s. (This is also why it's called PC2-4200. Similarly, DDR2-667 can provide 5,333 MB/s and is often sold as PC2-5300, DDR2-800 can provide 6,400 MB/s and is sold as PC2-6400, and DDR2-1066 can provide 8,533 MB/s and is sold |
| 16:49.20 | PaperBear | as PC2-8500.) |
| 16:49.20 | PaperBear | If you have paired RAM, your memory controller will be able to talk to the RAM transferring up to 8,533 MB/s. Note that this matches a 1066 MT/s FSB, so in this case the system is balanced -- neither the FSB nor the RAM speed is a bottleneck in the data flow between the processor and the RAM. If you put in faster RAM, say DDR2-667 or DDR2-800, you won't see a benefit in the memory bandwidth you can utilize since the FSB becomes a bottleneck. |
| 16:49.34 | keyra | PaperBear: is not very useful, you can't have "optimization" using 64 bits, the optimization is too minor to be considered, by other side you then can't have flash, java, or codecs, apart that the applications then requires the double of size in you RAM |
| 16:49.45 | PaperBear | thanks keyra |
| 16:50.00 | keyra | PaperBear: welcome :) |
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| 16:50.36 | DammitJim | yeah... I understand that, thanks |
| 16:50.36 | DammitJim | go on |
| 16:50.57 | PaperBear | DammitJim, i am just parroting what I just read |
| 16:51.18 | DammitJim | LMAO |
| 16:51.19 | DammitJim | oh ok |
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| 16:53.38 | PaperBear | but by the looks of it - the fsb will be (800MT/s x 8) or 6400MB/s |
| 16:54.01 | PaperBear | and the ram, that will be 5,333MB/s per channel |
| 16:54.52 | DammitJim | ok, so there is no real performance problem |
| 16:55.13 | PaperBear | so, if I understood that right, your ram throughput is 10,666 MB/s against your fsb throughput of 6,400 MB/s |
| 16:55.29 | PaperBear | which means that in actual fact, the thing you would want higher is the fsb |
| 16:59.38 | PaperBear | of course, that is assuming there is much advantage in a balanced system - I doubt there is in reality any more |
| 17:00.02 | DammitJim | so, is normally RAM ahead of the game? |
| 17:00.21 | PaperBear | "Your elive system seems to be damaged or your elive system is not trusted" |
| 17:00.23 | PaperBear | lame |
| 17:00.34 | DammitJim | whoa |
| 17:00.44 | DammitJim | Thana, we got a tester! |
| 17:01.06 | DammitJim | brb... lunch time |
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| 17:17.40 | twinkie_addict | hello |
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| 17:52.34 | PaperBear | so... anyone got any ideas about why my (md5 checked ) 1.9.15 is "not trusted" ? |
| 17:52.49 | keyra | PaperBear: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 17:53.14 | PaperBear | err.... yah, thanks keyra |
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| 17:53.28 | keyra | PaperBear: welcome :) |
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| 18:04.44 | Elive_user1 | ahola from stgo dom rep |
| 18:04.58 | keyra | Elive_user1: que tal ? |
| 18:05.09 | Elive_user1 | bien |
| 18:05.38 | Elive_user1 | de donde eres |
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| 18:15.04 | DammitJim | PaperBear, did you burn the CD? |
| 18:15.55 | PaperBear | DammitJim, yes |
| 18:16.02 | PaperBear | retrying it as we speak actually |
| 18:16.16 | PaperBear | but i have to go now, footy this evening |
| 18:16.50 | PaperBear | I dont suspect a bad cd though, tbh |
| 18:17.33 | PaperBear | i'll drop in and let you know if it worked tomorrow... |
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| 18:22.40 | DammitJim | if you can |
| 18:22.47 | DammitJim | try burning the cd at the lowest speed possible |
| 18:22.58 | DammitJim | I don't know why, but I've had issues with iso images burnt too fast |
| 18:23.15 | DammitJim | I couldn't believe it myself when I heard that that could be the problem |
| 18:24.10 | Issa | i think buy a usb keys and use it to install elive |
| 18:24.19 | Issa | i think now he is more better than cd |
| 18:24.53 | DammitJim | that's what I use |
| 18:34.01 | Issa | yes |
| 18:34.05 | Issa | and the one problem |
| 18:34.09 | Issa | is the language |
| 18:34.14 | Issa | how i can change it? |
| 18:34.24 | Issa | when i create the keys? |
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| 18:34.45 | Issa | because all my install is english, and i want it in french, the one problme |
| 18:34.59 | Mtraker | I've a problem with abiword. The letters are too close together |
| 18:35.09 | Issa | instgall OOO3 |
| 18:35.13 | Issa | he is the best |
| 18:35.47 | Mtraker | but i don't need all office |
| 18:36.02 | Mtraker | i want to write a simple leter |
| 18:36.17 | Mtraker | I don't need pps and excel |
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| 18:41.08 | Issa | evryone need excel |
| 18:43.13 | Mtraker | Thanatermesis, tu no sabras porque se juntan tanto las letras en abiword? |
| 18:50.58 | Issa | hello little question about net-connector, only elive user can use it or some people from other distrib can use it? |
| 18:59.53 | Issa | Thanatermesis, ping |
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| 20:51.36 | Elive_user68_nl | stille boel ;) |
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| 20:52.23 | Elive_user68_nl | hi |
| 20:52.30 | Issa | hello |
| 20:52.55 | Elive_user68_nl | it's a very silent crowd tonight |
| 20:53.22 | Elive_user68_nl | or all zombies..bots or whatever |
| 20:54.08 | Issa | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.10 | Issa | u using elive |
| 20:54.14 | Issa | what version? |
| 20:54.18 | Elive_user68_nl | testing the live cd |
| 20:54.20 | Issa | unstable or stable? |
| 20:54.20 | Elive_user68_nl | the latest one |
| 20:54.23 | Issa | yes |
| 20:54.25 | Issa | great |
| 20:54.26 | Elive_user68_nl | normally i'm on ubuntu |
| 20:54.33 | Issa | yes me to |
| 20:54.40 | Issa | but elive he is more powerfull |
| 20:54.47 | Elive_user68_nl | I must say that ubuntu looks to have much more than elive |
| 20:54.52 | Issa | u can see my how to on frecnh comunyti |
| 20:55.03 | Issa | like how to install the last e theme |
| 20:55.05 | Elive_user68_nl | my french is terribel |
| 20:55.08 | Elive_user68_nl | le |
| 20:55.10 | Issa | so beautifull |
| 20:55.23 | Elive_user68_nl | elive is a beauty, true |
| 20:55.50 | Elive_user68_nl | but in this live cd loads of things don't seem to work |
| 20:56.11 | Issa | yes |
| 20:56.13 | Elive_user68_nl | and: can't I install, for instance, Thunderbird via synaptic? |
| 20:56.26 | Issa | some futres don"t have install by the master thana |
| 20:56.29 | Elive_user68_nl | it now finds nothing...do I need to install the cd to get more? |
| 20:56.37 | Issa | u have icedove |
| 20:56.38 | Issa | installed |
| 20:56.42 | Issa | by default |
| 20:56.46 | Issa | and he works great |
| 20:56.48 | Elive_user68_nl | icedove..aha |
| 20:57.12 | Elive_user68_nl | in what map? |
| 20:57.18 | Elive_user68_nl | I don't see it in internet |
| 20:57.31 | Elive_user68_nl | or any of the others I must say :) |
| 20:57.52 | Elive_user68_nl | again: does this all come when I install the cd? |
| 20:59.09 | Issa | i d'ont understand the question, sorruy |
| 20:59.32 | Elive_user68_nl | I don't have icedove anywhere...you say that it is installed as default. Will I get it when i install the elive cd? |
| 20:59.39 | Elive_user68_nl | I am now on the live cd |
| 21:05.41 | Issa | yes |
| 21:05.48 | Issa | he works u have icedove |
| 21:05.53 | Issa | u use the last dev version? |
| 21:06.07 | Issa | icedove he is on the mac side on the down |
| 21:06.14 | Issa | the forth icone |
| 21:06.39 | Elive_user68_nl | that's not the case at the live cd |
| 21:07.02 | Elive_user68_nl | I now see that a reload of synaptec brought some more porgrams...like Icedove |
| 21:08.35 | Elive_user68_nl | and does elive has compiz? |
| 21:09.22 | Elive_user68_nl | found it already :) |
| 21:10.23 | Issa | compiz |
| 21:10.24 | Issa | no |
| 21:10.28 | Issa | no compiz on E |
| 21:10.34 | Elive_user68_nl | it is in synaptec |
| 21:10.38 | Issa | lol |
| 21:10.41 | Issa | install it |
| 21:10.46 | Issa | but don't wsork with E |
| 21:10.56 | Elive_user68_nl | i just installed icedove..and still can't find it anywhere |
| 21:11.05 | Elive_user68_nl | ok, thanks |
| 21:11.12 | Elive_user68_nl | I keep my pc at ubuntu :) |
| 21:11.19 | Elive_user68_nl | thanks for the answers |
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| 21:54.39 | jimyjazz | Hi there, I'm trying to install elive on the acer one, has anybody had any experience with it? |
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| 22:10.50 | roman | hello, i ask for help in the other elive channels, but no one help me, i really like this distribution, i search on internet but can get with the problem |
| 22:11.19 | jimyjazz | what iis it? |
| 22:11.55 | jimyjazz | what is the problem roman |
| 22:12.00 | jimyjazz | ? |
| 22:12.07 | roman | when i put the username and password on the entrance window when is gonna start its reset againt |
| 22:12.40 | jimyjazz | thats because somehow you are typing the wrong user name |
| 22:12.52 | roman | no thats not the problem |
| 22:13.37 | jimyjazz | ok press Ctrl+Alt+f2 |
| 22:13.47 | roman | im not a novice linux user.. actually im using the irsii for get the help.. in im logon with my user sow.. |
| 22:14.22 | jimyjazz | you can try to see if you can login through the shell |
| 22:15.11 | jimyjazz | just to double check that is not related to the gui |
| 22:15.40 | roman | jimyjazz: what do you think ? |
| 22:16.15 | jimyjazz | once you are there you can create a new user |
| 22:16.26 | roman | givme a minute |
| 22:16.40 | jimyjazz | to make check if it happends with the new user aswell |
| 22:16.47 | jimyjazz | ok |
| 22:17.09 | roman | all rigth |
| 22:17.22 | jimyjazz | have you try to login |
| 22:17.23 | jimyjazz | ? |
| 22:17.36 | roman | yes its login with the new username |
| 22:17.59 | jimyjazz | on the shell or in the gui? |
| 22:18.05 | roman | jimyjazz: in the gui |
| 22:18.26 | jimyjazz | so what is the problem then? |
| 22:19.15 | jimyjazz | i though you could not login...? |
| 22:19.48 | roman | in this case its solve with another user, but i really like to know why the original user crashed, i meant i turned off the cumputer and when i started again stop working |
| 22:19.51 | roman | why ? |
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| 22:20.25 | Elive_user28 | sup |
| 22:20.29 | roman | it doesnt have sence for me |
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| 22:20.52 | jimyjazz | another thing you could try is to give a new password to that user name and try again |
| 22:21.02 | roman | let me see |
| 22:21.27 | Elive_user28 | hey can you install elive? im running live cd on virtual box in ubuntu |
| 22:22.00 | roman | no.. i change the password but it doesnt work |
| 22:22.35 | Elive_user28 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.13 | roman | jimyjazz: finally what you recomend me to do ? |
| 22:23.58 | jimyjazz | I dont know why that happends but if you can login with a new user is ok |
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| 22:24.18 | jimyjazz | where you meshing around with any files? |
| 22:25.01 | roman | jimyjazz:not really.. well rigth now im justing about copy the configuration files from the new user to the old user and see what happen |
| 22:25.13 | roman | *just thinking |
| 22:26.11 | jimyjazz | it may not work due to permission issues |
| 22:27.04 | roman | ill change the owner of the files |
| 22:27.16 | Elive_user28 | hello?? |
| 22:27.24 | jimyjazz | well you can always try |
| 22:28.06 | Elive_user28 | can anyone see my messages? |
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| 22:28.13 | meborc | yes |
| 22:28.24 | Elive_user28 | can you install elive? im running live cd on virtual box in ubuntu |
| 22:28.26 | jimyjazz | sorry for as second im trying to install elive on my netbook .... |
| 22:28.50 | jimyjazz | yes you can with the last developement release |
| 22:29.43 | Elive_user28 | ok thank you very much. im thinking about putting it on a second hard drive but i dont know how much better it is than Kubuntu |
| 22:30.23 | meborc | Elive_user28, you must realise, that enlightenment is totally different from kde |
| 22:31.06 | roman | jimyjazz: man thanks, i already do what i tell you before and it work, well it change the configuration of somethings for files copy, but i have the access with my user... |
| 22:31.19 | Elive_user28 | oh i totally get that lol |
| 22:34.39 | jimyjazz | d |
| 22:34.44 | jimyjazz | are you installing it elive_user28? |
| 22:35.38 | jimyjazz | good roman |
| 22:36.11 | jimyjazz | I also like kde but enlightenment is really light and looks great |
| 22:37.04 | Elive_user28 | yes |
| 22:37.13 | jimyjazz | and elive is really fast and really good at managing resources |
| 22:37.35 | Elive_user28 | yes it is.... although as many features? |
| 22:38.04 | jimyjazz | is the only distro I seen using only 175000kb at start up |
| 22:38.31 | jimyjazz | what are you after? |
| 22:38.48 | jimyjazz | with the devian repos you have tons fo stuff |
| 22:39.42 | meborc | tons of old stuff that is... |
| 22:39.51 | meborc | :) i had to be the party pooper |
| 22:39.59 | meborc | stable - YES |
| 22:40.09 | Elive_user28 | i switched from vista a few days ago to ubuntu for security and i do quite a bit of coding |
| 22:40.09 | meborc | but not "on the edge" |
| 22:41.09 | jimyjazz | well meborc if you enable the testing repos of debian you can be all on the edge that you want |
| 22:41.23 | keyra | jimyjazz: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 22:41.40 | Elive_user28 | lol |
| 22:41.57 | jimyjazz | well some people enjoy breaking theiir system to be on the edge |
| 22:42.35 | Elive_user28 | does elive support things like wireshark? john? and such |
| 22:42.41 | jimyjazz | if this your first experience with linux user_28 |
| 22:43.20 | Elive_user28 | fully yes |
| 22:43.49 | jimyjazz | there are many download programs similar to whireshark |
| 22:44.09 | meborc | jimyjazz, actually, aren't we using the testing repos already? debian lenny? |
| 22:44.19 | meborc | lenny is not stable yet! |
| 22:44.49 | Elive_user28 | ok... i think i will probably install it.. whats the new realease? |
| 22:44.50 | meborc | wireshark is package sniffing program... |
| 22:44.59 | Elive_user28 | yes.. yes it is |
| 22:45.05 | meborc | ;) |
| 22:45.11 | Elive_user28 | so is ethereal |
| 22:45.16 | Elive_user28 | :) |
| 22:46.18 | meborc | i would try nubuntu or backtrack3 if i was interested in network security ... /wink |
| 22:46.28 | jimyjazz | snort is meant to be quite good |
| 22:46.46 | Elive_user28 | i hae snort already |
| 22:46.50 | Elive_user28 | *have |
| 22:46.58 | jimyjazz | for your first linux experience i'd probably recommend mandriva |
| 22:47.45 | jimyjazz | or mint kde, maybe opensuse |
| 22:47.50 | Elive_user28 | mandriva..? hmm |
| 22:48.10 | jimyjazz | check it on distrowatch.com |
| 22:48.37 | Elive_user28 | i haave three sli 9800gtx 1gb. and 8gb of ram so i have no hardware issues for a distro |
| 22:48.53 | Elive_user28 | so any you recommend |
| 22:49.09 | jimyjazz | mandriva would be could to give a go |
| 22:49.30 | meborc | Elive_user28, with that hardware, you could even run vista :O |
| 22:49.30 | jimyjazz | kde base and many graphical tools to configure stuff |
| 22:50.20 | jimyjazz | I havent use vista...well yes i did for 5 minutes before formating it from my new laptop |
| 22:51.12 | jimyjazz | the important thing with linux is to be willing to learn new tricks and ways of doing stuff |
| 22:51.34 | jimyjazz | I couldnt go back to windows now |
| 22:51.54 | jimyjazz | linux is not perfect by any means but at least you own your computer |
| 22:56.46 | Elive_user28 | yes i had vista and it ran like butter but i hate windows... security sucks |
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| 23:40.48 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 23:41.16 | meborc | hi |
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| 23:47.16 | Elive_user26 | hola, alguien que hable espanol? |
| 23:47.30 | keyra | Elive_user26: que tal ? |
| 23:49.45 | AlexAnteMachina | hi meborc |
| 23:49.54 | meborc | hi :) |
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| 23:50.35 | Adry | hola?? |
| 23:50.46 | Adry | can somebody help me to install a theme? pleaseeee |
| 23:50.53 | meborc | Adry, sure |
| 23:51.03 | meborc | you have the theme file downloaded? |
| 23:51.18 | meborc | left-click on screen |
| 23:51.24 | Adry | yes |
| 23:51.32 | meborc | then choose configuration - theme |
| 23:51.37 | Adry | I already download it, it-s a .edj file |
| 23:51.47 | meborc | then import, and choose the file location |
| 23:51.54 | Adry | is that the correct file? |
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| 23:51.57 | meborc | yes |
| 23:52.14 | LinuxNIT-II | Adry, are you on elive testing or elive GEM? |
| 23:52.24 | Adry | I don0t know :S |
| 23:52.33 | LinuxNIT-II | stable or unstable? |
| 23:52.34 | Crash_Gnome | hehe |
| 23:52.38 | LinuxNIT-II | cat /etc/elive-version |
| 23:53.06 | Adry | it says stable-release: yes |
| 23:53.15 | Adry | elive-version: 1.0 |
| 23:53.32 | Adry | debian-version: etch |
| 23:53.48 | meborc | that is GEM... my instructions were for unstable... |
| 23:54.07 | LinuxNIT-II | where did you get the theme? |
| 23:54.15 | Adry | oh yeas cause I dont have that import option |
| 23:54.15 | LinuxNIT-II | online? |
| 23:54.29 | Adry | http://www.e17-stuff.org/ |
| 23:54.31 | Adry | yes |
| 23:54.33 | LinuxNIT-II | right |
| 23:54.53 | LinuxNIT-II | well the version of e17 that is on elive-stable (yours) is too old for those themes |
| 23:54.57 | LinuxNIT-II | they are not compatible |
| 23:54.58 | Adry | I have the theme select option but I-m not able to use the PErsonal |
| 23:55.13 | LinuxNIT-II | i know, it sucks |
| 23:55.16 | Adry | oh I see |
| 23:55.20 | Crash_Gnome | 'upgrayed' |
| 23:55.28 | Adry | so, what can I do? |
| 23:55.32 | LinuxNIT-II | the compatible themes are available in apt |
| 23:55.40 | LinuxNIT-II | you can use those themes or use unstable elive |
| 23:56.00 | Adry | oh I also used apt-cache search e17 to download a theme |
| 23:56.04 | Adry | but I cant use it |
| 23:56.08 | Adry | I dont know how |
| 23:56.12 | Adry | =( |
| 23:56.20 | Crash_Gnome | is confused |
| 23:56.26 | Adry | apt-ge install theme |
| 23:56.37 | LinuxNIT-II | its not in the theme list? |
| 23:56.55 | FossZombie | apt-cache search theme |
| 23:57.06 | Adry | nop the only themes that Iam able to use are default, lucax and elive |
| 23:57.11 | Adry | that's it |
| 23:57.17 | LinuxNIT-II | you may need to copy the themes to ~/.e/e/themes |
| 23:57.20 | Adry | yes Foss I used that one |
| 23:57.43 | FossZombie | hmm... |
| 23:57.45 | Adry | I already moved the themes there |
| 23:58.49 | Adry | \ |
| 23:59.18 | LinuxNIT-II | the ones installed by apt? |
| 23:59.39 | Adry | mmm I'm installig one right now for e17 |
| 23:59.44 | Adry | is that correct? |