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00:08.36LinuxNITpeeps, set itask to be below all windows
00:13.05LinuxNITit that fixes it then try switching it back to being on top
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03:44.25roxvilleyes peeps that is the background...or work area for itask
03:44.39keyraroxville: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
03:44.53roxvilleif you do what LinuxNIT  said, or enable bling, it will disappear
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04:37.18AlexAnteEeePCgood morning!
04:39.14AlexAnteEeePCone wke?
04:39.32AlexAnteEeePCWizard, ?
04:40.26coyote10que modelo de eee pc tienes?
04:40.54AlexAnteEeePC701
04:41.02coyote10spanish?
04:41.06AlexAnteEeePCno
04:41.12coyote10ok
04:41.41coyote10i have one eee pc with 2 gb in hdd?
04:42.02AlexAnteEeePCmy neighbour knows some spanish, but I dont understand it.
04:42.09AlexAnteEeePC;)
04:42.48AlexAnteEeePCI didnt know there is a 2B model.
04:43.43AlexAnteEeePCso whats up with your eeepc?
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04:44.31AlexAnteEeePCcoyote10, ?
04:45.06coyote10i have eee pc with xandros os
04:45.18AlexAnteEeePCoh, the default os.
04:45.25AlexAnteEeePCi had that, too.
04:45.38AlexAnteEeePCbut i disliked the kde
04:46.28coyote10<PROTECTED>
04:46.38coyote10xD
04:46.56AlexAnteEeePCi got that
04:47.19ShADoW_LnXHi anyone can enable autologin in entrance? ( Elive Gem)
04:48.01AlexAnteEeePCthere is a way. but i dont know it.
04:50.07ShADoW_LnXi find a way but i can't do it work..
04:52.20AlexAnteEeePCwell, you should ask Wizard, wasynyt, PrinceAMD or thana
04:52.35AlexAnteEeePC...hope i didnt forget anybody.
04:53.26ShADoW_LnXAlexAnteEeePC: ok Thanks
04:53.29AlexAnteEeePCcoyote10, development version is available with an special eeepc configuration, too.
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07:50.28AlexAnteMachinacoyote10, ?
07:50.33AlexAnteMachinaare you still there?
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09:28.26ThanatermesisWizard, ping
09:29.20morgan12ping Thanatermesis :)
09:29.25morgan12comment vas-tu?
09:31.27Thanatermesisbien morgan12, et toi ? :)
09:32.39morgan12bien, j'ai enfin fini de réparer mon serveur et transférer tout les disques dur
09:33.02Thanatermesisbien :)
09:34.41morgan12j'avais testé à la sortie de la dernier version de dev elive mais j'avais un soucis a l'installateur 4g, il me disais que le fichier télécharger était invalide, tu as eu d'autre personne ayant eu le bug?
09:35.21Thanatermesisnon, personne encore... c'est bien alors, il faut que je regarde pourqoi il te dit ça :)
09:35.27Thanatermesistu la testée quand ?
09:35.31Thanatermesismmmh
09:35.39morgan12le 2/07
09:35.44Thanatermesisc'est peut etre un autre bug, quil faut rebooter chaque installer try
09:35.48morgan12le fichier télécharger: elive_installer_key_080702070447404257000_19871.cod
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09:36.27morgan12mais j'ai remarquer une chose, ma carte son en pci-express n'a aucun driver sous linux :( déja sous windows j'ai eu dur à l'avoir
09:36.39Thanatermesis:/
09:37.29morgan12et après que l'installeur aie échoué à mon avis il avait démonter toutes les partitions plus moyen de rien faire
09:37.46Thanatermesisaha
09:37.50Thanatermesisça cest le bug que je dit
09:37.57Thanatermesisil faut que je trouve la cause de ça
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09:38.54morgan12ok, je regrette d'avoir pris une carte son en pci-express (c'est très rare) mais les slots pci sont ocultés par une autre carte
09:46.13Thanatermesispeut etre tu aurá le driver dans un ptit temps :)
09:47.00morgan12on peut toujours rever ^^, un seul magasin en belgique savait se procuper la carte
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09:48.23Thanatermesisok... faut que je continue a travailer sur le installer... bbiab :)
09:49.40morgan12tu le code en quel langage encore?
09:51.15Thanatermesisfaut voire, je suis en "transition" ;)
09:51.30Thanatermesismais surement C
09:51.33Thanatermesisje sait pas encore
09:51.58morgan12le c++ ne serait pas plus "flexible"?
09:52.35Thanatermesisnah.. je sait pas trop, ici on utilise plutot du C tout seul ;)
09:53.19morgan12ok, l'an prochain je vais etre obligé d'étudier le visualbasic, berk :(
09:53.25Thanatermesismorgan12, tu pourait essayer quand le truc de le installer ? (invalid code)
09:53.32Thanatermesisouch :S
09:54.20morgan12je ne sais rien voir de plus tout plante, meme un scrot je n'y arrive pas
09:55.10morgan12j'ai recopier à la main déja le nom du fichier :p
09:55.45Thanatermesismmh
09:55.52morgan12et je vais aussi devori étudier le c++
09:55.53Thanatermesisça devrait etre le bug que je dit de le installer
09:56.00morgan12surement
09:56.04Thanatermesisfaut que je fasse des diff sur les codes
09:57.13morgan12moi il va falloir que je refasse mon programme en C qui analyse le réseau pour voir s'il peut s'arreter
10:01.20morgan12Thanatermesis, si je peux me rendre utile dans certaines chose n'hésite pas à le demander, malheureusement le temps me manque parfois :(
10:02.23Thanatermesisok :)
10:08.47morgan12je continue de chercher laus je trouve pas le driver associé :(
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10:21.48morgan12Thanatermesis, en septembre soit je vais en filande avant les corus soit je m'acheterai bien un macbook
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11:31.02AlexAnteMachinaHey Thanatermesis !
11:31.42AlexAnteMachinaI just did another dist-upgrade at eeepc and it looks as if it's running pretty good this time.
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12:16.47DammitJimgood job with the news, Thanatermesis
12:17.54roxvilleis back (gone 14:02:30)
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13:41.48ggordonIs the elive released today...1.7.10 installble now?
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13:43.05|ast|Buenas!
13:43.11|ast|desde cocina
13:45.34DarkEraI was wondering about that too but i guess it's still not installable.
13:46.51ggordonyeah?....ok then......liked it better when dev releases were installable...
13:47.18DarkEraBy the way, the 1.7.10 is available since a few days ;) Not just today :P
13:48.15ggordonwell....just noticed it on Distrowatch this morning....which is where I check for new releases of various distros....
13:48.23DarkErakeyra do you know anything about that?
13:52.16ggordonmaybe still check it out....live cd and all....maybe next release can be installed....
13:52.54DarkEralet's ask the big boss
13:53.02DarkErahe here right now
13:53.43ggordonyeah...but he's not talking ;)
13:54.02DarkEraThanatermesis, is the 1.7.10 version of Elive installable?
13:54.10DarkEralet's see ;)
13:55.04ThanatermesisDarkEra, on #eliveinstall yes
13:55.27DarkEracool thanks ;)
13:55.39DarkErasee ggordon?
13:56.19ggordonyeah....ok....have it 72% d/l at the moment...
13:56.52ggordonhave to wait until I get home this afternoon to try it...but can d/l it here at work ;)
13:57.50DarkEraBy the way Thanatermesis, i wanted to thank you for building such an awesome, beautiful distro. I installed it just yesterday and i love it. :)
13:58.27Thanatermesisthanks DarkEra :)
13:58.34ggordonyou installed it yesterday?...you knew then....you sneaky devil you :)
13:58.40Thanatermesisroxville, assasukasse, can you enter too on #eliveinstall ?
13:59.14|ast|Thanatermesis: pudiste algo de rtl8187B?
13:59.37ggordoncoffee break time...thx for the info...
13:59.42Thanatermesis|ast|, mmh.. no, sigo usando la misma version, no te va con esa ?
14:00.04|ast|Thanatermesis: uso ndiswrapper y estoy en comedor conectado wifi
14:00.05|ast|xDDDD
14:00.20DarkEraggordon?
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14:03.25DarkEraHi there wasynyt :)
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14:15.44Prokohi
14:16.10DarkEraHi there Proko
14:16.16Prokoroxville, this time, my macbook reboot correctly _
14:16.23Prokohi DarkEra
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14:40.45roxvilleProko, that's great, buddy!
14:41.18roxvilleDarkEra,  you are running the dev version, correct?
14:41.33DarkEranot yet
14:41.45DarkErai'm about to go offline now
14:42.04DarkEraand try to install it
14:42.46DarkErasee you later :)
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14:52.04|ast|Thanatermesis: pusiste r5u870!
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14:52.07|ast|sos groso!!
14:52.36|ast|Thanatermesis: lo tengo de svn y anda re barbaro mi webcanm ricoh
14:54.16Thanatermesises groso !
14:54.29Thanatermesis|ast|, si, puse nuevas cams :)
14:54.33|ast|Thanatermesis: elive lo usa svn?
14:54.39Thanatermesis|ast|, http://www.elivecd.org/Main/News/
14:54.39|ast|este r5u870¿
14:54.42|ast|a ver
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14:55.13DammitJimese Thanatermesis esta loco!!! 10GB ethernet!
14:55.40|ast|Thanatermesis: lo tengo r5u870_1812.fw
14:55.46|ast|funciona perfecto
14:55.49|ast|con cheese
14:55.58|ast|lo de emesene no me toma xD
15:00.56ThanatermesisDammitJim, loco locooooooooooooooooooo!
15:01.25Thanatermesis|ast|, de donde se bajan esos firmwares ?
15:02.18|ast|Thanatermesis: lo bajé con svn
15:02.40|ast|Thanatermesis: quieres que te envie con tar.gz?
15:03.17DammitJim;)
15:03.18Thanatermesis|ast|, no, dame link solo
15:03.22Thanatermesisded proyecto
15:03.30|ast|Thanatermesis: espera
15:04.21|ast|Thanatermesis: http://svn.mediati.org/svn/r5u870/trunk
15:04.27|ast|bajate este
15:13.15Thanatermesis|ast|, ok, firmwares incluidos, en la proxima version te funcionara directamente sin que tengas que ponerlos ;)=
15:13.27|ast|jeje
15:13.30|ast|eso espero
15:14.39Thanatermesis|ast|, http://debian.pastebin.com/d90cc5d0
15:15.37|ast|a ver
15:17.13|ast|Thanatermesis: el mio es 88 revision
15:18.19Thanatermesispues mira, mas nuevo ;)
15:18.25DammitJimThanatermesis, hay como instalar 1.7.10?
15:18.34ThanatermesisDammitJim, si en #eliveinstall
15:20.14|ast|Thanatermesis: si seguro funciona
15:22.08|ast|ahora me falta el bcm4310 y debo esperar que salga oficial libreç
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15:29.55DarkEraYes, Whoohoo. I'm running 1.7.10!
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15:30.36Thanatermesis:)
15:31.18DarkEraWhat a beauty :)
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19:04.53DarkEraGood evening ;)
19:08.38ShADoW_LnXDarkEra: Hi.
19:09.28DarkEraHi there ShADoW_LnX
19:09.56ShADoW_LnXDarkEra: do you know how i can enable autologin in entrance? (Elive Gem)
19:10.54DarkEraNope, i just started with Elive yesterday and still need to get used to it. ;)
19:14.50ShADoW_LnXDarkEra: ok.
19:15.50DarkEraMaybe roxville can help you...
19:17.08ShADoW_LnXroxville: are you here?
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19:34.33AlexAnteEeePChi evrybody!
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19:36.11AlexAnteEeePCwasynyt, Wizard, Thanatermesis !?
19:36.16AlexAnteEeePCroxville, ?
19:40.52DarkEraHi
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19:42.44DarkEraThis is strange
19:45.43DarkEra#eliveinstall
19:45.50AlexAnteEeePChi
19:46.58DarkEraWhere is everybody?
19:47.27AlexAnteEeePCdont know
19:48.01AlexAnteEeePCthey havent told me
19:48.39AlexAnteEeePCone alive in here?
19:49.20DarkEraOnly the two of us i think
19:49.23DarkEralol
19:49.54AlexAnteEeePCwell...need to leave now, too
19:50.07DarkEraokay
19:50.12AlexAnteEeePCsorry
19:50.24DarkErano problem
19:50.26AlexAnteEeePCbe back tomorrow
19:50.33DarkEracool
19:53.40DarkEraroxville?
19:54.34DarkErawasynyt?
19:55.34DarkErakeyra?
19:55.50DarkEraanyone here?
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20:03.45DarkEraAh, sombody is awake here
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20:07.49DarkErawasynyt, do you read me, copy?
20:12.40DarkErawasynyt?
20:13.40DarkEraHello, Are we ignored or something?
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20:18.51DarkEraAnyone here?
20:19.49DarkErawasynyt?
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20:28.57Wizardhello
20:30.23DarkEraHi there Wizard
20:32.10Wizardhello DarkEra, i haven't seen you here before :)
20:32.41DarkEraYesterday i was known as Nightfall
20:32.56DarkErajust changed my nick
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20:36.16DarkEraWhere is everybody?
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20:39.15Wizard:)
20:39.26Wizardi'm at work, so i'll answer a bit slow
20:39.27DarkEraWizard, i installed Elive just yesterday. So yes i'm new around here ;)
20:39.33Wizardah, ok
20:40.02Wizardroxville: who (besides me) wanted to do ppc port of elive?
20:40.33Wizardi forgot his name, and i don't think he's still interested in such progject
20:40.35Wizardbtw
20:41.00WizardThanatermesis: what about merging dmcrypt options into elive installer?
20:41.10Wizardit would be an easy trick
20:41.30Wizardnow only fedora installer has such option (besides it uses LUKS)
20:44.32roxvilleWizard,  i don't remember either
20:44.38Wizardtoo bad
20:44.57Wizardbut i think he wouldn't be much helpful
20:45.15DarkErahi roxville :)
20:45.16Wizardat least i had somebody to test packages
20:45.24Wizardout for smoke
20:45.26roxvillehey DarkEra  :)
20:45.34roxvillehow's your elive running?
20:46.06roxvilleDarkEra,  i know i have probably asked you before... but you are running the dev version...right?
20:46.23DarkEraNope
20:46.30DarkEranot anymore
20:46.46DarkEraI'm using 1.0Gem stable
20:47.14roxvilleWizard,  however... if you decided to start it as a side project... make a website and announce for help
20:47.21roxvilleDarkEra,  ok
20:48.04DarkEraSince i'm still new to the Linux world it's better for me to run a stable system
20:48.21DarkEraI just wait for the next stable release
20:49.46DarkEraUntil now i'm very happy with this one
20:50.14roxville:)
20:50.54DarkEraAnd i had a chance to thank Thanatermesis ;)
20:51.08roxvillehehe, good :)
20:57.28Wizardroxville: there will be some toubles, because:
20:57.42Wizard1. powerpc is allmost retro hardware
20:58.07Wizard2. e17 is pretty unstable on everything which is not x86 (even on simmilar archs like x64)
20:58.13Wizard3. poor userbase
20:58.23Wizard4. i don't have much time
20:58.46Wizard5. elive incluses non-free parts, like elpanel, which can make troubles with porting
20:59.06Wizard6. elive has strict oldschool-x86 installer
20:59.23Wizard(don't know how does it behave on EFI machines even)
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21:00.17Wizard7. most of modern ppc machines are apple ones, that means troubles with drivers
21:00.40Wizard8. i have only one ppc notebook, not to much if it comes about distro porting
21:01.22roxvillelol, ok
21:01.22Wizard9. ppc causes problems with multimedia like flash and java, multimedia are elive's aims
21:01.31roxvilleWizard,  it's ok, you don't have to!
21:01.36Wizard:P
21:01.41roxvilleit was only if YOU wanted to!
21:01.42Wizardbut i want to
21:01.49roxvillehehe
21:01.57Wizardif i only had time for that
21:02.06roxvillegoes to have a cig
21:02.11roxvillewait, i don't smoke
21:02.13Wizardyou smoke?
21:02.17Wizardhah
21:02.18Wizard:P
21:02.21roxvillelol
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21:03.55roxvillea swedish finn...
21:04.18roxvilleor a finnish swede
21:04.41roxvillea fedish swinn
21:04.49Wizardo_O
21:04.52roxvillea swinnish fede
21:04.59Wizardfade ;)
21:05.08roxvillehehe
21:05.24Wizardroxville: i guess you somke something else than cigs :D
21:05.37roxvillelol i don't
21:05.54roxvillei use snuff... wet snuff, that i put in my mouth
21:06.05Wizardahh..
21:06.13roxvillethe ameriocans call it "dip" and the swedes call it "snus"
21:08.04Wizardhmm
21:08.17Wizardi'm trying to guess what it is
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21:08.41Wizardthey don't teach such words in school :P
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21:11.28Wizardcześć ma_tex
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21:30.23DarkEraIs there a way in Elive 1.0 Gem to get an panel or applet that shows the internet connection so that one can switch from cable to wireless?
21:31.19DarkEraI know there is one in the upcoming version of Elive
21:32.53roxvilleDarkEra, no there is not...as far as i know
21:33.05roxvilleit has an older version of e17
21:33.33DarkEraThanks roxville
21:36.46roxville:)
21:38.44Wizardevil_users attack!
21:45.23DarkEraroxville what version do you use?
21:45.45roxville1.7.8dev
21:46.11DarkEraah, okay
21:46.17roxville:)
21:46.39DarkErano problems with it?
21:47.21roxvillenot that i have noticed
21:47.53DarkEra:)
21:48.22roxvillethe only thing to remember is that if you are on a desktop, you need to turn off the laptop specific processes
21:48.32roxvilleand it will run MUUUUCH better
21:49.19DarkErawell, i'm runnig elive on a laptop ;)
21:49.41roxvillelol yes, so that would not be a good idea for you :)
21:49.52DarkErahehehe
21:50.04Wizardno, it could be an good idea
21:50.11Wizarda*
21:51.11Wizardfor example: turning off cpufreqd and relying on kernel builtin ondemand governor
21:51.24Wizard;)
21:51.36Wizardused elive on a laptop for long time
21:51.53roxville:)
21:52.23DarkEraDon't get too technical with me. Still a noob ;P
21:52.32DarkEralol
21:53.18Wizardah, sorry
21:53.29DarkEraNo problem ;)
21:53.37Wizardsometimes i forgot, that there are people who still use windows
21:54.16DarkEraWindows? What's that?
21:54.38roxvillelol
21:54.44DarkErahehehe
21:54.57WizardDarkEra: please, don't behave like linux fanboy
21:55.07Wizardthat's common for new linux users
21:55.14roxvilleDarkEra, Wizard  is a BAD dude
21:55.26Wizardwhoops ;)
21:55.27roxvillestay friends with him... he knows a LOT
21:55.45Wizardthaks roxville, i don't know much :)
21:55.45roxvillehe has be VERY helpful in tyhis channel for a long time now
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21:56.03DarkEra:(
21:56.09DarkEranow i'm hurt
21:56.18WizardDarkEra: i'm really friendly (usually)
21:56.27DarkErastarts to cry
21:56.37Wizardsorry, i didn't want to make you cry
21:56.42Wizard:(
21:56.45DarkEralol
21:56.58DarkEraIt's okay
21:57.12Wizardi'm just trying to warn you
21:57.20roxvilleLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
21:57.29Wizardmany new linux users becomes 'fanboys'
21:57.41Wizardthey start to yell about linux coolness
21:57.42roxvilleWizard,  what i meant was... NOT this: <roxville> DarkEra, Wizard  is a BAD dude
21:57.45DarkEraWell , not me
21:57.50Wizardgood
21:57.53roxvillebut this: <roxville> DarkEra, Wizard  is a BSD dude
21:57.59roxvillewow
21:58.10Wizardlolz
21:58.15DarkEraI'm too old to play childish games
21:58.17roxvilleWizard,  i swear i meant to type BSD
21:58.28Wizardroxville: basically BSD = BAD ;D
21:58.33roxvillehehe
21:59.39Wizardroxville: do you remember when we talked about me playing bass?
22:00.30Wizardafter few months of playing mostly electric and acoustic guitar i formed a band and i'm a bassist :P
22:01.07roxvillereally?
22:01.10roxvilleCOOL!
22:01.28roxvilleplaying bass can be pretty hard
22:01.32Wizardi even found a girl, she wants to sing
22:01.46roxvillesweet!
22:01.47Wizardand she has really nice voice
22:01.52Wizardand nice ass
22:02.18Wizardtoo bad she has a boyfriend
22:03.05roxville:/
22:03.17Wizardnow i only need a guitarist, cuz our old is dead
22:03.40roxvillei'm gonna go off for a bit... take daughter out
22:03.42roxvillebbl
22:03.55roxvillesorry to hear/read that, Wizard :/
22:03.55DarkErasee you :)
22:04.04roxvilleis away: out with daughter
22:04.55WizardDarkEra: see you
22:05.05DarkErawell
22:05.06Wizardneeds caffeine
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22:05.16DarkErai'm not gone yet
22:05.32DarkErai was talking to roxville ;)
22:06.09Wizard:D
22:09.31DarkEraWizard, don't worry about me becoming a linux fanboy. I've been using linux just for a few months now and now some basic stuff.
22:09.40Wizardgood
22:09.45DarkEra:)
22:09.52Wizardbut you know what i meant?
22:10.02DarkEraof course
22:10.17Wizardgreat
22:10.34Wizardbasicaly - linux sucks :P
22:10.39Wizardbut don't tell anybody
22:10.45DarkEralol
22:12.35Wizardtoo bad ma_tex quit
22:12.52Wizardhe was the only guy who speaks my language
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22:20.39Wizardgood evening wasynyt
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22:35.08DarkEralol
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23:42.30Wizardapt: shoot AlexAnteMachina
23:42.31aptACTION shoots AlexAnteMachina in the ear with a glue gun!
23:43.05AlexAnteMachinaflushes apt down the toilet
23:43.23Wizardhi AlexAnteMachina
23:43.33AlexAnteMachinahi
23:43.35DarkErapulls his gun once
23:43.45Wizardlol, i've found 'różowy blog' - 'the pink blog'
23:43.48Wizardrotfl
23:44.46Wizardok, i have some free time
23:44.48Wizardlemme think
23:45.12DarkErayou can think?
23:46.04DarkEraapt poke Wizard
23:46.04aptACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Wizard, pokes Wizard repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
23:48.00DarkErais listening to Enigma - Message from IO
23:49.49Wizardis listening to Koniec świata - atomowe czarne chmury
23:50.17WizardThanatermesis: ping
23:50.20Wizardcheck it now
23:50.54Wizardkurwa pierdolona jego mać, nie działa
23:50.59Wizard:[
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