| 00:00.58 | ma_tex | jak ktoś lubi to nie ma szans na to żeby zakończył ale mnie czasu brakowało i jakoś zapomniałem z czasem ale najlepiej na basie mnie się grało jak podłączony był pod fuz :) |
| 00:01.25 | ma_tex | poprostu piękne dzwięki wychodziły aż się chciało kombinować :) |
| 00:02.22 | Wizard | ja tam wole czysty kanal |
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| 00:06.36 | ma_tex | to zależy od gustu poprostu ;) |
| 00:07.02 | ma_tex | ja lubiałem kombinować conieco więc fuz był wskazany |
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| 00:07.48 | ma_tex | czasmi kumpel wpadał i na perkusj przygrywał więc się tak bawiliśmy z muzyką ;) |
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| 00:17.39 | Wizard | o jezu, jakie nudy |
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| 00:20.49 | ma_tex | nudy są dziś niesamowite |
| 00:20.58 | Wizard | ja w pracy siedze :/ |
| 00:21.25 | ma_tex | Wizard, adminem jesteś? jakiejś sieci? |
| 00:21.36 | Wizard | ta |
| 00:21.40 | Wizard | mozna tak powiedziec |
| 00:21.43 | Wizard | mniejsza z tym ;) |
| 00:21.51 | ma_tex | ;) |
| 00:22.06 | Wizard | jeszcze sie okaze, ze tu ktos z firmy siedzi a ja ircuje |
| 00:22.25 | ma_tex | xD |
| 00:22.35 | ma_tex | ale była by wpadka |
| 00:22.54 | Wizard | zanczy.. ircuje.. tak czasem cos powiem, ale pilnuje i patrze.. w koncu ile mozna patrzec na logi |
| 00:23.57 | ma_tex | no tak oczoplasu mazna by sie nabawic xD |
| 00:25.01 | felix | ? |
| 00:25.28 | Wizard | hehe |
| 00:25.36 | Wizard | ale wszystko chodzi jak nalezy |
| 00:26.07 | Wizard | co mnie bardzo cieszy |
| 00:26.30 | ma_tex | Wizard, jak wszystko jest w należytym pożądku to ok można sobie na rozrywke pozwolić ;) |
| 00:26.49 | ma_tex | felix, hi |
| 00:27.03 | keyra | ma_tex: felix, daddy... :) |
| 00:27.30 | Wizard | o, normalsi w radiu :) |
| 00:27.33 | Wizard | lubie ich |
| 00:27.56 | ma_tex | a ja nieznam ich |
| 00:28.05 | Wizard | no bo nie sa bardzo znani |
| 00:28.15 | Wizard | taki lokalny zespol, mozna powiedziec |
| 00:28.34 | Wizard | ale w jakis radiach ich czasem puszczaja |
| 00:28.40 | felix | may i ask you what language are you speaking? |
| 00:28.43 | Wizard | a eska rock ich promowala swego czasu |
| 00:28.44 | ma_tex | i właśnie dlatego ich nieznam |
| 00:28.46 | Wizard | felix: guess |
| 00:28.47 | Wizard | :P |
| 00:28.52 | felix | hmmm |
| 00:28.54 | Wizard | ma_tex: pewnie tak |
| 00:29.19 | Wizard | ma_tex: zaraz Ci wlepie ich strone domowa, mozna ich piosenki sciagnac |
| 00:29.20 | ma_tex | Wizard, a znasz ccool kids of death ? |
| 00:29.24 | Wizard | jasne |
| 00:29.43 | ma_tex | właśnie ich słucham spoko jak dlamnie ;) |
| 00:29.52 | felix | Wizard: Polish? |
| 00:29.56 | Wizard | yes |
| 00:30.05 | Wizard | felix: but i bet you were cheating |
| 00:30.08 | Wizard | ;) |
| 00:30.39 | felix | Wizard: me??? are you talking to mee???? |
| 00:30.53 | Wizard | yeah, to you :] |
| 00:31.00 | felix | well... in that case... |
| 00:31.08 | felix | yes |
| 00:31.11 | felix | :( |
| 00:31.13 | felix | :) |
| 00:31.27 | Wizard | first thing i would do to guess: /whouis |
| 00:32.22 | felix | Wizard: I just did a whois to you :) |
| 00:32.37 | Wizard | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070824 |
| 00:32.38 | Wizard | hehe |
| 00:33.14 | ma_tex | hehe |
| 00:33.29 | felix | Wizard: However... polish is one of the "strange languages" that is easy for US to learn |
| 00:33.41 | felix | (US == spanish speakers) |
| 00:34.16 | Wizard | hmm |
| 00:34.30 | Wizard | strange.. i allways thought polish is rather difficult |
| 00:34.40 | felix | It is... |
| 00:34.58 | Wizard | and when i heared foreigners trying to speak.. i would say it is even impossible |
| 00:35.20 | felix | I'm not talking about "speaking", but grammar and syntax. |
| 00:35.33 | Wizard | ok, ok ;) |
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| 00:54.24 | ma_tex | I must go see you |
| 00:54.35 | ma_tex | Wizard, narka |
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| 01:07.10 | Wizard | hmm |
| 01:08.09 | NathanExplosion | WIZARD |
| 01:09.05 | Wizard | WHAT?! |
| 01:09.48 | Wizard | no, go away.. you told you are priest! |
| 01:09.58 | NathanExplosion | aw come on |
| 01:10.03 | Wizard | youu were* |
| 01:10.13 | NathanExplosion | am not |
| 01:10.32 | Wizard | ufff |
| 01:14.17 | NathanExplosion | i am back to being bored.. |
| 01:20.23 | Wizard | oops, not good |
| 01:20.46 | Wizard | one day i made big mistake.. |
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| 01:21.02 | Wizard | and now i have to repair it |
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| 01:21.14 | Wizard | caim: ping |
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| 01:26.36 | Theoden | Bryanstein: ?? |
| 01:29.15 | Wizard | Theoden: ?? |
| 01:29.23 | Theoden | lol |
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| 01:36.14 | Elive_user27 | ooo |
| 01:36.30 | Wizard | Elive_user27: ?? |
| 01:37.15 | Elive_user27 | oh i didn't mean anything im just using the livecd of elive and i didn't think that the icon i clicked was xchat and i was surprised |
| 01:37.46 | Theoden | http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/iphone-unlocked-atandt-loses-iphone-exclusivity-august-24-2007/ |
| 01:38.35 | Elive_user27 | yeah i heard about that i'm happy it happened as soon as it did |
| 01:40.00 | Wizard | caim = antakarana |
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| 02:56.55 | roxville | good evening people :) |
| 02:58.29 | Elive_user27 | good evening |
| 02:58.39 | roxville | hi Elive_user27 how are you? |
| 02:58.55 | Elive_user27 | im doin just fine |
| 02:59.05 | roxville | great! :) |
| 02:59.11 | Elive_user27 | im on the live cd trying to figure out if i like it |
| 02:59.26 | roxville | and? |
| 02:59.32 | Elive_user27 | it |
| 02:59.33 | Elive_user27 | s nice |
| 02:59.34 | roxville | i mean... how do you like it so far? |
| 02:59.37 | roxville | ok |
| 02:59.45 | Elive_user27 | but there are some things that are really annoying |
| 02:59.51 | roxville | yes |
| 02:59.55 | Elive_user27 | most notably the control panel |
| 03:00.15 | Elive_user27 | but i like the e style and it's look |
| 03:00.17 | roxville | but... no more than the things i found annoting with gnome or kde |
| 03:00.32 | roxville | i have used elive for 2 years now |
| 03:00.59 | Elive_user27 | im still in the never ending search for a distro |
| 03:01.11 | Elive_user27 | i think wolvix is next on my list |
| 03:01.26 | roxville | yeah... that's a dangerous path to walk, my friend... |
| 03:01.29 | roxville | :) |
| 03:01.45 | roxville | you can't stop, it's like a drug... |
| 03:01.49 | Elive_user27 | yes it is |
| 03:02.19 | Elive_user27 | i think i really like e though, does elive have anything for auto updates implemented yet? |
| 03:02.25 | roxville | you can ONLY find the distro that sucks less than the others |
| 03:02.45 | roxville | i doubt there will ever be the "perfect" distro |
| 03:02.51 | Elive_user27 | nope |
| 03:02.57 | roxville | except elive, of course :D |
| 03:03.07 | Elive_user27 | you need to find the closest thing to it and spend way too much time customizing |
| 03:03.16 | roxville | yep |
| 03:03.43 | roxville | anyway, e17 has come a long way since our developer decided on this version |
| 03:03.51 | Elive_user27 | yes it has |
| 03:03.52 | Elive_user27 | i haven |
| 03:03.56 | Elive_user27 | t had any trouble yet |
| 03:04.01 | roxville | amnd a lot of things are MUCH less annoying with the new e17 version |
| 03:04.33 | Elive_user27 | yes i haven't found a reason to go to e16 yet |
| 03:04.59 | roxville | i'm not totally sure when it will come out, but the next development release will have a new kernel and a new version of e17 |
| 03:05.21 | roxville | so keep your eyes open :) |
| 03:05.35 | Elive_user27 | is there any tool for updating or will i have to reimage you think? |
| 03:06.11 | roxville | the best thing will be to download a new iso |
| 03:06.37 | Elive_user27 | yeah i figured |
| 03:06.44 | roxville | but there is even now a version of the new e17... we still need to find a slightly more stable version, though |
| 03:06.56 | roxville | a lot of fun stuff is happening right now |
| 03:07.06 | LinuxNIT | heya roxville |
| 03:07.09 | Elive_user27 | when do you think "1.1" will be out (if it will be 1.1) |
| 03:07.26 | roxville | what i mean is, that you can install the new e17... on your installed elive |
| 03:07.51 | roxville | hmmm i guess you can do it on the livecd too, but you'll need a LOT of ram |
| 03:08.05 | roxville | hey LinuxNIT :) |
| 03:08.15 | Elive_user27 | assuming it's installed you said it wasn't very stable though right? |
| 03:08.19 | LinuxNIT | yeah ive done it on the livecd before... not too bad |
| 03:08.39 | roxville | Elive_user27, i don't know yer, elive's developer, Thanatermesis has a game bonus disc he wants to release first |
| 03:08.53 | Elive_user27 | cool |
| 03:09.15 | Elive_user27 | im not sure this distro is right for me personally but it's just about the only one with e and i think e is for me |
| 03:09.32 | roxville | Elive_user27, it's pretty damn stable... just a few things you need to do to make it happen successfully |
| 03:09.45 | Theoden | Hi roxville |
| 03:09.58 | roxville | hi Theoden how are you, bud? |
| 03:10.00 | Elive_user27 | is there a guide on the forums or something? |
| 03:10.08 | Theoden | roxville: Doing well, tx. |
| 03:10.12 | Theoden | How about you? |
| 03:10.25 | roxville | no, this test version is kinda unofficial |
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| 03:10.46 | roxville | i'm good... just got home from my gig |
| 03:10.53 | Theoden | cool |
| 03:10.59 | Theoden | Just got home from work |
| 03:11.03 | roxville | :) |
| 03:11.22 | Elive_user27 | u think i could get metasploit goin on the livecd? |
| 03:11.38 | roxville | it was so hot and humid tonight... and i was playing outside... two tshirts later and totally soaked jeabs... |
| 03:11.54 | roxville | lol, a metasploit? |
| 03:12.10 | Elive_user27 | yep |
| 03:13.00 | Elive_user27 | so what kind of band are you in |
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| 03:13.12 | roxville | no band, just me |
| 03:13.22 | roxville | you know, "guy with guitar" |
| 03:13.23 | Elive_user27 | what do you play then |
| 03:13.31 | Elive_user27 | yeah i play |
| 03:13.44 | roxville | i'm a singer... and play guitar so i will have some sort of backup |
| 03:14.53 | Elive_user27 | i played guitar for years before i got voice lessons, so im the player first |
| 03:14.55 | Theoden | http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/iphone-unlocked-atandt-loses-iphone-exclusivity-august-24-2007/ |
| 03:15.17 | roxville | this is me: http://www.myspace.com/christidestrom |
| 03:15.37 | roxville | yeah Theoden i read it :) |
| 03:15.50 | Theoden | 0^0 |
| 03:16.33 | Elive_user27 | oo |
| 03:17.04 | Elive_user27 | im not much of a country player, im more classical jazz and progressive rock |
| 03:17.32 | roxville | i'm not much of a player at all :) |
| 03:17.45 | roxville | but i have survived this long... |
| 03:17.49 | Elive_user27 | he |
| 03:18.58 | roxville | :) |
| 03:19.08 | roxville | ok, i gotta test something, bbiab |
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| 03:30.13 | Wizard | Theoden: what's with that iphone ? |
| 03:32.07 | Theoden | Software crack to free it from AT&T |
| 03:35.21 | Wizard | could you explain it a bit ? |
| 03:35.50 | Theoden | iphones will ONLY wotk on the A&T network - they are locked there. |
| 03:36.08 | Theoden | This software breaks that lock so you can use it on - say - T-Mobile. |
| 03:36.16 | Wizard | so users of other operators can't use iphone o_O ? |
| 03:36.29 | NathanExplosion | iphones blow |
| 03:36.34 | NathanExplosion | btw |
| 03:36.57 | Theoden | Yes - I agree - but I like things that bite apple. |
| 03:37.12 | NathanExplosion | hmm yes i agree to that! |
| 03:46.08 | NathanExplosion | drinky drink drank |
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| 04:05.37 | NathanExplosion | pssst |
| 04:07.55 | LinuxNIT-II | pssst |
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| 04:27.40 | Detox | help |
| 04:27.43 | Detox | help |
| 04:28.01 | Detox | can someone check my ip to see if you can get there? |
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| 04:28.56 | Detox | LinuxNIT you around? |
| 04:29.19 | LinuxNIT | sup |
| 04:29.38 | Detox | can you goto a ftp site i made to see if it works via http? |
| 04:30.28 | Detox | need to see if a person can get tehre and log in |
| 04:30.42 | LinuxNIT | link? |
| 04:30.49 | LinuxNIT | pm it to me |
| 04:30.56 | Detox | ftp://detoxhome.sytes.net |
| 04:31.52 | Detox | typing localhost works great ,,b ut tjhat does not count |
| 04:32.56 | LinuxNIT | looks like its timing out |
| 04:33.22 | Detox | hmmm said it would take 5 - 10min to register via no-ip |
| 04:33.41 | Detox | howabout just detoxhome.sytes.net |
| 04:35.42 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 04:36.44 | Detox | adjusting |
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| 04:39.55 | GPLGeek | How's everyone doing |
| 04:40.22 | GPLGeek | Detox, I can help you get your ftp running |
| 04:40.44 | GPLGeek | actually it just popped up with username/password prompt |
| 04:40.56 | GPLGeek | did you want me to attempt to login or something? |
| 04:42.18 | Detox | yes |
| 04:42.43 | Detox | will open private chat for this |
| 04:43.29 | Detox | gave you user / pw |
| 04:43.57 | Detox | linuxNIT can you try again? |
| 04:45.29 | LinuxNIT | works now |
| 04:45.36 | Detox | usr / pw for ftp, ,,, |
| 04:45.40 | Detox | good |
| 04:45.46 | Detox | should show 3 folders right? |
| 04:46.10 | GPLGeek | we are code green |
| 04:46.16 | Detox | yippeee |
| 04:46.38 | Detox | would be easier if I had a static ip ,, but is $15 more month to get it |
| 04:46.49 | GPLGeek | I've got semi-static |
| 04:46.56 | GPLGeek | usually keep a ip for a year or so |
| 04:47.04 | Detox | how? |
| 04:47.14 | GPLGeek | my isp just doesn't change them |
| 04:47.18 | GPLGeek | if they can avoid it |
| 04:47.20 | Detox | just dont turn off router? |
| 04:47.29 | GPLGeek | comcast is a good isp |
| 04:47.34 | Detox | ahh |
| 04:47.39 | Detox | I have earthlink,,, |
| 04:47.53 | GPLGeek | people say bad things about it but comcast cable actually is better |
| 04:47.56 | Detox | ip is solid unless I lose power ,, hte it changes |
| 04:48.11 | GPLGeek | the "comcast limits torrents" fud was actually created by sbc/att to promote their dsl |
| 04:48.18 | GPLGeek | yet sbc does limit torrents lol |
| 04:48.31 | GPLGeek | in fact comcast enhanced the network making my torrents faster |
| 04:48.47 | GPLGeek | even when i lose power there is a very low chance I lose my ip |
| 04:48.50 | Detox | ok now ,,, question ,,,, I have tried to change user for proftpd ,, and will not allow me to do so |
| 04:49.05 | Detox | always is "noboby" |
| 04:49.16 | Detox | even have another in the conf file |
| 04:49.21 | GPLGeek | it should support multiple usernames |
| 04:49.23 | Detox | but dows not seem to wwork |
| 04:49.45 | Detox | all i ashould need to do is type it in the conf fileriht? |
| 04:49.51 | Detox | file right? |
| 04:50.07 | Detox | sorry kb si beginning to stick |
| 04:50.47 | GPLGeek | Down the proftpd then up it |
| 04:50.54 | GPLGeek | it doesn't refresh the conf otherwise |
| 04:51.15 | Detox | did,, but will not stice ,, will try again t ho |
| 04:51.18 | Detox | tho |
| 04:51.33 | GPLGeek | damn you need a new keyboard |
| 04:51.37 | Detox | ya |
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| 04:52.16 | Detox | would like to get usr names to be in database ,, but for now ,, jsut geting it running is a success |
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| 04:52.46 | Detox | now I can begin to rebuild a website |
| 04:52.47 | GPLGeek | By default, the proftpd daemon reads the host's /etc/passwd |
| 04:53.09 | GPLGeek | do you have got to set the users up accordingly |
| 04:53.17 | GPLGeek | not just in the proftpd config file |
| 04:53.20 | Detox | hmm I may have that turned off so there are no anon logins |
| 04:53.21 | GPLGeek | you can set them like system users |
| 04:53.33 | Detox | ahhh |
| 04:53.42 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 04:54.11 | GPLGeek | there's a few ways to set the users |
| 04:54.35 | GPLGeek | you can even make the passwords be literals and not hashes that check from /etc/passwd |
| 04:55.01 | Detox | can I paste the passwd file to you in private? |
| 04:55.23 | Detox | just so i make sure i understand it? |
| 04:55.27 | GPLGeek | No put it on youtube |
| 04:55.33 | Detox | arrggg |
| 04:55.38 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 04:56.06 | Detox | metube =ok youtube = everyonelooktube |
| 04:56.28 | GPLGeek | go ahead if you want to paste but it should just be usernames and hashes |
| 04:57.34 | GPLGeek | oh i forgot what debian uses, does debian use md5, sha , crypt, or md5 salted |
| 04:57.38 | GPLGeek | im such a retard |
| 04:58.38 | Detox | ok the ones i am interested in are nobody and rceftp |
| 05:00.22 | GPLGeek | I think you should use webmin lol |
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| 05:00.29 | GPLGeek | it doesnt have to be that complex |
| 05:00.38 | Detox | the file? |
| 05:00.48 | Detox | that is what came when i installed elive |
| 05:00.49 | GPLGeek | no just the general problem |
| 05:00.56 | GPLGeek | of ftp managment |
| 05:01.03 | Detox | outside of the detox and rceftp names |
| 05:01.08 | Detox | ok |
| 05:02.37 | Detox | what I would like to do is have gnereal ftp folder but pass protected |
| 05:03.12 | Detox | and as you know ,,, I learn by reading, breaking, and fixingf what is broke |
| 05:03.32 | Detox | like the entrance issues the other day |
| 05:04.10 | Detox | wizard steered me to the right place ,, but it took efforts to get it going |
| 05:04.44 | GPLGeek | How do you secure a user to there directory: |
| 05:04.44 | GPLGeek | Put the following lines in the config file. |
| 05:04.44 | GPLGeek | DirectoryRoot ~ |
| 05:04.44 | Detox | lampp has webadmin is that what you are talking about? |
| 05:04.46 | GPLGeek | if you want it to be like a normal debian user |
| 05:04.51 | GPLGeek | and use the home directory |
| 05:05.04 | GPLGeek | then just use the user manager to add ftp to that user |
| 05:05.19 | GPLGeek | Detox, its been a while i guess webmin was obsoleted |
| 05:05.31 | GPLGeek | lol i used to use it. |
| 05:05.39 | Detox | ahh |
| 05:05.52 | Detox | docs sat to build a database in mysql |
| 05:06.11 | Detox | say |
| 05:06.29 | Detox | but I do not need 1000's of users |
| 05:07.19 | Detox | so how do i use the user manager to add ftp? |
| 05:07.27 | Detox | that is in elpanel right? |
| 05:07.37 | Detox | all I see is adduser |
| 05:07.44 | Detox | no user management |
| 05:08.09 | Detox | regular debian (gnome) has a user manager |
| 05:08.17 | Detox | but wher is it in elive? |
| 05:08.29 | GPLGeek | oh ya there are a few ways |
| 05:08.30 | GPLGeek | http://www.proftpd.org/localsite/Userguide/linked/c572.html#AEN576 |
| 05:08.35 | GPLGeek | you can see there are like 8 ways |
| 05:08.40 | NathanExplosion | detox, take it easy on the caffiene buddy |
| 05:09.00 | Detox | Nathan ,,, I have only had 4 pots tonight |
| 05:09.08 | GPLGeek | lol , well you can use the text mode to assign it the ftp group |
| 05:09.11 | NathanExplosion | of course |
| 05:09.23 | GPLGeek | I just pounded 2 cups of coffee after a power nap |
| 05:09.32 | NathanExplosion | caffine addicts |
| 05:09.33 | GPLGeek | *eyes still blurry* |
| 05:09.37 | GPLGeek | not really |
| 05:09.49 | GPLGeek | I go weeks without caffine sometimes. |
| 05:10.08 | NathanExplosion | but qutting cold turkey never works huh? |
| 05:10.21 | GPLGeek | no, there's just some things that I like that have caffine |
| 05:10.35 | GPLGeek | its not a depend in my brain's repository |
| 05:11.02 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 05:11.05 | Detox | ok ,,,to add me to the braindead group ,,,, |
| 05:11.21 | Detox | useradd detox -G braindead |
| 05:11.22 | Detox | ? |
| 05:11.26 | GPLGeek | wow its been a while since I did any ftp, its gotten way more complex |
| 05:11.59 | Detox | yes asnd googlesearch is really wild in choices |
| 05:12.05 | GPLGeek | i thought it was usermod |
| 05:12.16 | GPLGeek | you would be adding a new user anytime using useradd |
| 05:12.21 | GPLGeek | usermod can add a group |
| 05:13.58 | Detox | groupmod - Tool to modify groups |
| 05:13.58 | Detox | Once groups are created on the computer they will need to be modified and edited at some point. The groupmod command will change the group id associated with a group or the name of the group. |
| 05:13.58 | Detox | groupmod [-g gid ] group |
| 05:13.58 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.59 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.02 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.04 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.12 | GPLGeek | hmm http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/newgrp.shtml |
| 05:14.31 | GPLGeek | my user cli is rusty |
| 05:15.01 | GPLGeek | to be honest i have not really DONE anything with linux in a very long time other than click a few browser buttons, everything's web based these days |
| 05:15.03 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 05:18.30 | Detox | SYNOPSIS |
| 05:18.30 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.30 | Detox | DESCRIPTION |
| 05:18.30 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.30 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.31 | Detox | OPTIONS |
| 05:18.33 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.35 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.37 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.04 | Detox | so as root ,,, usermod detox -a braindead |
| 05:19.16 | Detox | that should add me to this group? |
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| 05:31.54 | Begasus | morning peeps |
| 05:47.42 | Detox | eyes too fuzzy to continue ,,, have a great evening all |
| 05:48.37 | GPLGeek | lol i hope |
| 05:48.43 | GPLGeek | later Detox |
| 05:54.36 | Wizard | Begasus: hi freak |
| 05:54.52 | Begasus | hi Wizard |
| 05:54.53 | Wizard | what are you doing so early ? |
| 05:54.58 | Begasus | who freak? ;) |
| 05:55.15 | Begasus | it's almost 8 am here :P |
| 05:55.16 | Wizard | did i say something :P ? |
| 05:55.33 | Wizard | here too, we don't live far from each other |
| 05:55.55 | Wizard | or maybe should i say same here ? |
| 05:55.59 | Wizard | never mind |
| 05:56.20 | Begasus | hehe |
| 05:56.45 | Wizard | i've just returned from work and i'm drinking gin and wasting my time |
| 05:56.47 | Begasus | well I haven't been a long sleeper for years |
| 05:57.00 | Begasus | wow .. just returned from work? |
| 05:57.07 | Begasus | doing the nightshift? |
| 05:57.14 | Wizard | yeah.. this week i worked at night |
| 05:57.39 | Wizard | and since i have problems with sleeping i'm hanging arround and checking few things |
| 05:57.47 | Begasus | jikes .. not my thing .. only worked during the night for about 2 weeks once .. |
| 05:57.57 | Wizard | alcohol does not help :/ |
| 05:58.03 | Begasus | let me have a daytime job .. ;) |
| 05:58.05 | Begasus | hehe |
| 05:58.24 | Wizard | i wish my gf was here.. |
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| 05:58.33 | Begasus | well normaly I would say 'at this hour??' but in your case that doesn't apply now ;) |
| 05:58.41 | Wizard | :D |
| 05:59.05 | Begasus | Wizard, where are you from? or what area? |
| 05:59.10 | Wizard | Poland |
| 05:59.22 | Wizard | Łódź exactly |
| 05:59.28 | Begasus | ah ... well not that close then :P |
| 05:59.29 | Begasus | hehe |
| 05:59.49 | Begasus | same timezone though ;) |
| 06:00.03 | Wizard | yup |
| 06:00.52 | Wizard | i don't know why, but when my gf is arround i don't have problems with sleeping |
| 06:01.10 | Wizard | that's strange |
| 06:01.31 | Begasus | plenty of exircise befor sleep probly :P |
| 06:01.32 | Wizard | vodka does not help |
| 06:01.48 | Wizard | it's not about exercises :P |
| 06:01.58 | Wizard | maybe i feel safe or something.. |
| 06:02.43 | Wizard | i'm so bored, that i'm installing xubuntu :P |
| 06:03.09 | Begasus | jikes |
| 06:03.19 | Begasus | everything but!! :P |
| 06:03.24 | Wizard | why not ? |
| 06:03.45 | Wizard | my gf told me: install anything but ubuntu.. |
| 06:04.03 | Wizard | i couldn't do anything else than install it :P |
| 06:05.16 | Begasus | hehe |
| 06:05.17 | Wizard | and.. i like xfce, ubuntu has fresh packages |
| 06:05.41 | Wizard | i'm bored with all magical distros like gentoo or sourcemage.. |
| 06:05.52 | Wizard | i need something which will work :) |
| 06:06.34 | Wizard | hmm.. i'm getting drunk, not good |
| 06:06.47 | Begasus | you need to sleep then ;) |
| 06:07.29 | Wizard | i remember when i woke up once, hangovered like a bitch, booted my notebook and saw something like this: freebsd 7-current login |
| 06:07.49 | Wizard | that was more than one year ago, just after freebsd 6.1 release |
| 06:08.35 | Wizard | and it even worked |
| 06:08.43 | Begasus | :P |
| 06:09.02 | Wizard | i asked my roommate: man, what did i do last night? |
| 06:09.34 | Wizard | and he said: you returned completely drunk, sat at your computer and said something about 'compiling freebsd' |
| 06:09.50 | Begasus | w00t |
| 06:09.51 | Wizard | 'but i din't understood much, you wer drunk' |
| 06:09.51 | Begasus | rofl |
| 06:10.40 | Wizard | i don't remember that at all :/ |
| 06:14.33 | Wizard | dobra, reboot |
| 06:14.42 | Begasus | cya |
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| 06:52.28 | Wizard | heh, it even works |
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| 07:49.33 | SuperpeZ | hola, buenos dias |
| 07:49.47 | keyra | SuperpeZ: que tal ? |
| 07:50.21 | SuperpeZ | bien, gracias :) |
| 07:50.25 | SuperpeZ | tu que tal esas keyra ? |
| 07:50.39 | keyra | SuperpeZ: muy bien, y tu ? |
| 07:51.04 | SuperpeZ | tambien estoy bien:) |
| 07:58.15 | trog | hihi :D |
| 07:58.23 | trog | upgrades for the tests repo :D |
| 07:58.37 | keyra | trog: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
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| 08:13.14 | SuperpeZ | hello trog |
| 08:13.28 | keyra | SuperpeZ: hi |
| 08:13.33 | trog | heya |
| 08:14.45 | SuperpeZ | :) |
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| 08:25.28 | Elive_user2 | Hi, trying to upgrade some apps with synaptic but some want to remove just about all of e17 to do it. What am I missing? |
| 08:25.57 | trog | probably you added another repository |
| 08:26.05 | trog | which aint compatible with elive |
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| 08:26.58 | brads | No, just defaults. Its things like brasero, jpilot |
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| 08:28.53 | brads | Amarok is the same - starts off with build-essential, e-modules, e-utils, e17, about 50 in all |
| 08:29.08 | trog | hmmmm |
| 08:29.33 | trog | what package did you select for installing ? ...try to figure out which is in conflict with the rest of E |
| 08:29.36 | trog | might be a bug |
| 08:30.53 | Elive_user2 | Well xmms, jpilot, amarok, xfe to name a few. It's still a 4.x version I use and have been for months just upgrading the bits I need. |
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| 08:32.34 | brads | Seem to be logged on as two people here, oops |
| 08:33.36 | brads | Haven't got a seperate home partition or else I could have just upgraded to gem |
| 08:33.55 | brads | Don't want to start again cos it's taken me ages to get elive just right |
| 08:34.01 | trog | well, i really dont know (cant imagine either) which package comes in conflict with E |
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| 08:35.25 | trog | brads: do you have the e17 from the tests repo, or the default that comes with the install ? |
| 08:35.39 | keyra | trog: tests repository, enable it at your own risk like here: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Tests_branch_repository |
| 08:35.46 | brads | Upgrade to gcc is ok but gcc 3.4 also wants to rip out everything - embrace, elpanel ........default e17 |
| 08:36.58 | trog | maybe its becouse of glibc ... |
| 08:37.10 | trog | upgrading/downgrading glibc usualy is a bad ideea |
| 08:37.20 | trog | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2542248901783498051&q |
| 08:37.31 | trog | see here how the cvs version of e17 can look like :D |
| 08:45.06 | wasynyt | brads one trick is to copy all the settings in to a dvd or anotherr hd and then restore those |
| 08:45.20 | wasynyt | and good day to everyone |
| 08:46.56 | trog | gday wasynyt |
| 08:47.18 | wasynyt | because all the settings are in /home/me/.* |
| 08:48.09 | wasynyt | so you only need to do .. as root -> cp -R /home/me/.* /place/that/is/secure |
| 08:48.27 | wasynyt | or in to a separate folder and then burn it to dvd/cd |
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| 08:52.48 | Elive_user3 | Hi again, router went down, sorry ??? |
| 08:53.45 | Elive_user3 | Gawd, brads I am |
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| 08:55.44 | brads | Back this time |
| 08:57.22 | wasynyt | <wasynyt> brads one trick is to copy all the settings in to a dvd or anotherr hd and then restore those |
| 08:57.22 | wasynyt | <wasynyt> and good day to everyone |
| 08:57.22 | wasynyt | <trog> gday wasynyt |
| 08:57.22 | wasynyt | <wasynyt> because all the settings are in /home/me/.* |
| 08:57.22 | wasynyt | <wasynyt> so you only need to do .. as root -> cp -R /home/me/.* /place/that/is/secure |
| 08:57.23 | wasynyt | <wasynyt> or in to a separate folder and then burn it to dvd/cd |
| 08:58.40 | brads | Well i have backed up my elive partition with partimage and can mess about that way, tried it once but lot of work involved....just being lazy i guess |
| 08:59.06 | wasynyt | heh |
| 08:59.23 | wasynyt | well all the settings are stored in those .* folders |
| 08:59.42 | wasynyt | but making complite backup is allways better |
| 09:02.33 | brads | Hmm, maybe will bite the bullet and try a new install with a seperate home partition. Can always go back to what I have now if it doesn't work. |
| 09:02.39 | brads | Thanks |
| 09:03.00 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 09:03.04 | wasynyt | your welcome |
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| 09:40.32 | AlexAnteMachina | anybody here who has knowledge about ide and sata? |
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| 09:43.31 | felix | AlexAnteMachina: I'm not... but maybe if you ask the question you could get an answer :) |
| 09:44.08 | AlexAnteMachina | mei oh mei! |
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| 09:44.44 | anquietas | You're definitely Bavarian, AlexAnteMachina. >.<` |
| 09:45.07 | AlexAnteMachina | is it possible to connect a HDD and a optical drive to ONE IDE connector? |
| 09:45.30 | trog | AlexAnteMachina: no |
| 09:45.51 | anquietas | Why not, trog? Primary master HDD, primary slave CDRom ? |
| 09:46.01 | trog | anquietas: those are 2 connectors ;) |
| 09:46.19 | AlexAnteMachina | nope. |
| 09:46.38 | anquietas | Hm. Really? No, trog. Both are 80-wired IDE cables. |
| 09:46.39 | AlexAnteMachina | i got only ONE IDE connector on this new mainboard. |
| 09:47.20 | trog | oh...on the motherboard ...if it has 2 ends, sure ....one master, one slave |
| 09:47.29 | trog | thats one bus ... |
| 09:47.33 | AlexAnteMachina | but 2 SATA, which I can't use because I got only oldfashined IDE devices. |
| 09:47.33 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 09:47.34 | trog | the connector, is the end of the bus |
| 09:48.00 | AlexAnteMachina | you're SO right! |
| 09:48.33 | trog | AlexAnteMachina: i'm not aware of any sata->ide convertor ...nor do i think its possible. the motherboard doesent know how to talk to it |
| 09:48.34 | anquietas | Mh, I had the same problem, AlexAnteMachina. There are four SATA connectors on my motherboard and no IDE. I solved the problem by buying an IDE controller. |
| 09:49.06 | AlexAnteMachina | how much is an ide controller? |
| 09:49.12 | anquietas | 20-30 EUR. |
| 09:49.19 | anquietas | It's not expensive. |
| 09:49.24 | AlexAnteMachina | lol.. where are you from? |
| 09:49.32 | anquietas | Near Munich. |
| 09:49.36 | anquietas | >.< |
| 09:49.36 | AlexAnteMachina | alles klar ! |
| 09:49.47 | anquietas | Heh. |
| 09:49.47 | trog | genau |
| 09:50.02 | AlexAnteMachina | ich hab EINEN IDE anschluss auf dem board. |
| 09:50.33 | AlexAnteMachina | wenn ich da eine HDD und ein optisches laufwerk dranhängen kann ist alles schon gut. |
| 09:50.50 | anquietas | Ja, wie trog bereits sagte, der IDE Kabel stellt einen Bus dar, der im Connector auf dem Mainboard endet. Es muesste klappen, wenn CDRom Laufwerk slave und HDD master sind. |
| 09:51.22 | AlexAnteMachina | äh... lol... ich weiss grad garnicht ob man optische laufwerke jumpern kann?? |
| 09:51.36 | anquietas | Natuerlich. |
| 09:51.45 | AlexAnteMachina | freilcih kann ich die HDD master setzen, aber nen brenner slave setzen?? |
| 09:51.45 | trog | AlexAnteMachina: alle IDE Laufwerken konnen jumpern :) |
| 09:51.50 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 09:52.08 | anquietas | Die Pins sind vermutlich rechts nebem dem IDE Connector und links vom Sound output. :) |
| 09:52.50 | AlexAnteMachina | so, wunderbar! Problem gelöst! |
| 09:52.59 | AlexAnteMachina | vielen dank die Herrschaften! |
| 09:53.02 | AlexAnteMachina | Habe die Ehre! |
| 09:53.13 | trog | AlexAnteMachina: aber, beide Laufwerken, werden langasamer...beide werden die Geschwindigkeit des langsamest Laufwerk haben |
| 09:53.14 | anquietas | Hja. |
| 09:53.28 | anquietas | Bus balancing. |
| 09:53.39 | AlexAnteMachina | hmm,.... das dacht ich mir schon. |
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| 09:53.52 | Chi11y | hello people |
| 09:53.55 | trog | aloha Chi11y |
| 09:53.58 | anquietas | Greetings Chi11y. |
| 09:54.03 | Chi11y | whats ^? |
| 09:54.06 | keyra | Chi11y: hi |
| 09:54.15 | anquietas | trog, your German is fascinatingly good - where did you learn it?? |
| 09:54.19 | trog | umop apisdn |
| 09:54.24 | trog | anquietas: Schule :) |
| 09:54.52 | trog | danke schoen ;) |
| 09:55.59 | Chi11y | "To compare MS-DOS and NT is a little like comparing Unix and Linux, the difference is that Torvalds made the succedor BETTER than the precidor" :) |
| 09:56.13 | trog | hahahaha |
| 09:56.15 | Chi11y | ops, typo hell but whatever |
| 09:56.19 | trog | nice one :)) ....true also |
| 09:56.23 | Chi11y | (: |
| 09:56.31 | anquietas | Heh. |
| 09:57.09 | anquietas | AlexAnteMachina, zur Not kannst Du SATA Laufwerke kaufen. :D Das waere eventuell die besten Loesung. |
| 09:57.27 | anquietas | <beste> |
| 09:57.29 | Chi11y | Windows Vista. The bloatyness of XP combined with a gui looking like a copy of Beryl made by a collage kid affected by coke, then sold for a price comparable to the size of sun. Realizing they're ****ed they sue their opponents for 236 patents that don't even exist.. |
| 09:58.17 | crm__ | ahh |
| 09:58.23 | crm__ | is beryl working with elive? |
| 09:58.30 | Chi11y | no, not atm |
| 09:58.38 | AlexAnteMachina | langfristig sicherlich, aber jetzt funktionieren die IDE-geräte noch 1a! da kaufe ich lieber noch einen IDE-controller. |
| 09:58.55 | Chi11y | but there is a app called igloo in development, whick will be kind of a beryl port for e17 |
| 09:59.00 | trog | crm__: no, and it never will |
| 09:59.15 | crm__ | hrm.. difference of opinion |
| 09:59.18 | trog | hmmmm...igloo ? didnt knew about that |
| 10:00.09 | trog | Chi11y: do you have a link ? i'm curious about that |
| 10:00.23 | Chi11y | trog, no I've lost it :( |
| 10:00.42 | Chi11y | but I can look araound |
| 10:00.43 | Chi11y | ops typo |
| 10:00.44 | trog | google seems to keep me in darkness.... |
| 10:01.32 | AlexAnteMachina | google = evil |
| 10:01.56 | crm__ | you think MS has bought google out AlexAnteMachina ? |
| 10:02.04 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 10:02.13 | crm__ | nothing |
| 10:02.26 | Chi11y | trog: there was someone in this channel who told me, can't remember who, though |
| 10:02.33 | crm__ | <mekius> crm__: afaik igloo is dead |
| 10:02.47 | Chi11y | :\ |
| 10:03.02 | AlexAnteMachina | google wants to control everything everywhere everytime. |
| 10:03.16 | Chi11y | google is good at 2 things: |
| 10:03.19 | Chi11y | web search |
| 10:03.25 | Chi11y | and webmail |
| 10:03.38 | Chi11y | the rest of their services is just shit |
| 10:03.56 | AlexAnteMachina | google reads every webmail sent/received by their systems! |
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| 10:04.33 | AlexAnteMachina | so if you use googlemail you're never alone. |
| 10:07.20 | crm__ | hrm.. that would be ok if i was looking for funding for research |
| 10:07.42 | crm__ | but not if i was planning on changing the torch on the statue of liberty to a dildo |
| 10:08.16 | AlexAnteMachina | surveilance cannot be "Okay"! |
| 10:09.24 | AlexAnteMachina | there is no more liberty when everybody can be watched 24/7 |
| 10:10.33 | AlexAnteMachina | AND it won't help preventing terror or assassination. |
| 10:10.49 | crm__ | you're suggesting that isn't already the case |
| 10:12.29 | AlexAnteMachina | it is! next year they are going to start collecting every data of everyone here in germany |
| 10:12.46 | Chi11y | lol |
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| 10:12.52 | crm__ | who are "they"? |
| 10:13.22 | AlexAnteMachina | every phonecall, every email, every website you look at/receive or send will be recorded. |
| 10:13.53 | crm__ | i somehow doubt that |
| 10:14.29 | crm__ | the local comms provider can't even synch their residential customers with their mobile ones |
| 10:14.40 | AlexAnteMachina | what a naive question "who are they"! The government! who else could be mighty and powerful enough empowering such a hugh campaign?! |
| 10:15.10 | crm__ | well.. your government is not my government |
| 10:15.17 | crm__ | least not yet.. that i know of |
| 10:15.52 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... so you really think your kind of save just because you living in a different country? |
| 10:16.07 | AlexAnteMachina | That's just a matter of really small time! |
| 10:16.26 | crm__ | maybe |
| 10:18.24 | AlexAnteMachina | It's not the "Big Brother" thing that they are starting. It's more that there are a lot of "small brothers" that keep watching you and by collecting all this data tey'll be able to monitor you. |
| 10:19.15 | AlexAnteMachina | it's the combination of data that makes it dangerous. |
| 10:22.20 | crm__ | AlexAnteMachina, i don't think its feasible just now |
| 10:22.51 | crm__ | but... would be happy to be involved in such a project if it was to come to fruition |
| 10:24.06 | AlexAnteMachina | so you wuld like to be controlled everytime everywhere? |
| 10:24.34 | crm__ | controlled is different from monitored |
| 10:25.07 | AlexAnteMachina | SOPHISTRY! |
| 10:25.14 | crm__ | and while i probably don't always operate within the law |
| 10:25.33 | crm__ | the concept would be a safety blanket for me |
| 10:26.08 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 10:26.22 | AlexAnteMachina | safety. |
| 10:26.50 | AlexAnteMachina | there'll be no safety for you. |
| 10:27.15 | AlexAnteMachina | it's a system to make the powerful just more powerful. |
| 10:27.49 | crm__ | not internationally |
| 10:28.06 | crm__ | unless of course it's a murdoch scheme |
| 10:28.31 | crm__ | and if someone like that wanted you dead.. then |
| 10:28.39 | crm__ | its time to roll-over |
| 10:28.54 | AlexAnteMachina | and to make you function and not to speak you mind! |
| 10:29.26 | crm__ | no free speech? |
| 10:30.01 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 10:30.33 | AlexAnteMachina | sure you can speak free, but if you say something unwanted you'll disappear. |
| 10:30.43 | crm__ | might as well eradicate the earth of humans and develop robots to serve you |
| 10:30.58 | crm__ | anyway.. this is silly talk |
| 10:31.54 | crm__ | after dealing with large corporations ... the ability to store and monitor the data of an individual is not yet possible |
| 10:32.35 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... every wondered what the NSA is doing for years? |
| 10:33.07 | crm__ | give me an nsa database.. i'll prove you wrong |
| 10:33.59 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 10:34.11 | anquietas | AlexAnteMachina, this is a matter of complexity. Take a billion people try to save all the data you gathered from various surveillance methods. No hard disc, no server system on this planet could store such a high amount of bytes. |
| 10:34.39 | AlexAnteMachina | not even the president of US has access to the NSA database. |
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| 10:35.11 | crm__ | and .. you would know that AlexAnteMachina ? |
| 10:35.51 | AlexAnteMachina | okay, keep living in wonderland. |
| 10:36.20 | crm__ | dude.. first of all .. you're in germany |
| 10:36.38 | AlexAnteMachina | so what` |
| 10:36.40 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 10:37.08 | crm__ | it basically means that you have limitations on the basic information you get |
| 10:37.24 | AlexAnteMachina | WHAT? |
| 10:37.44 | anquietas | True, crm__. |
| 10:38.19 | crm__ | AlexAnteMachina, while you guys build great cars.. doesn't mean you have the full picture =) |
| 10:39.07 | crm__ | i would imagine im in a similar situation AlexAnteMachina |
| 10:39.16 | crm__ | a perfect example is this... |
| 10:40.15 | crm__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.15 | crm__ | Make an impact on Microsoft Web sites, products, and services by participating in this research panel, open to U.S. and Canadian residents. |
| 10:40.33 | crm__ | i swear i get those messages every week |
| 10:40.49 | crm__ | im in AU |
| 10:42.14 | anquietas | :) |
| 10:43.43 | crm__ | its like they are taunting me! |
| 10:43.48 | crm__ | damnit |
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| 10:59.03 | crm__ | in conclusion AlexAnteMachina .. you would require an expert such as myself to coordinate such an undertaking |
| 10:59.45 | anquietas | crm__, I suppose that he left the conversation. |
| 11:00.13 | crm__ | eh.. he can read the logs |
| 11:00.50 | anquietas | Would he be willing to do that... :D |
| 11:02.36 | anquietas | He most likely misunderstood you, crm__ and is angry now, for you seemingly implied that being in Germany would impose informational limitations on its citizens. |
| 11:02.56 | anquietas | Cut that <being in>. |
| 11:03.00 | anquietas | Typo. |
| 11:03.10 | crm__ | anquietas, i don't see why |
| 11:03.27 | crm__ | i would anticipate similar restrictions on AU information |
| 11:03.30 | anquietas | I fail to understand his aggressive 'what' reaction. |
| 11:03.56 | crm__ | na.. he's prolly just having breakfast |
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| 11:04.30 | anquietas | Such restrictions are logically deducible and apply to all countries - even to the USA itself. |
| 11:05.08 | anquietas | It's 0100 p.m. in Middle Europe. He's hardly having breakfast. :) |
| 11:05.27 | crm__ | heh.. lunch then |
| 11:05.41 | anquietas | Possibly. |
| 11:05.58 | anquietas | Where are you living, crm__ ? (Which city) |
| 11:06.20 | crm__ | anquietas, VIC .. close to melborune |
| 11:06.25 | crm__ | err melbourne |
| 11:06.36 | anquietas | ^^ How's life in AU? |
| 11:06.45 | crm__ | it rocks |
| 11:06.54 | crm__ | we are very lucky here |
| 11:07.21 | crm__ | where are you again anquietas ? |
| 11:07.40 | anquietas | I am from Hungary and living in Germany, very much to my discontent. |
| 11:07.51 | crm__ | heh |
| 11:08.24 | crm__ | why discontent? |
| 11:10.26 | anquietas | Oh, well, that's too long a story to tell and highly likely far too personally influenced. |
| 11:11.14 | crm__ | well.. i like both german and us cars |
| 11:11.20 | anquietas | I don't want to act unjustly and start cursing on the Germans. :D |
| 11:12.25 | anquietas | Heh, German cars and Germans are hardly alike. ^^ German cars let you drive them, irrespective of your nationality and driving abilities. |
| 11:14.42 | anquietas | Are you an Australian citizen or immigrated, crm__ > |
| 11:14.43 | anquietas | <?> |
| 11:15.10 | crm__ | anquietas, im 100% aussie born and bread |
| 11:15.33 | anquietas | :D |
| 11:15.46 | anquietas | Have you ever been to New Zealand? |
| 11:15.59 | anquietas | To cuddle Kakapos ^^ |
| 11:16.15 | crm__ | not yet.. but i wouldn't mind going there for a fishing trip |
| 11:16.38 | FT1 | anquietas> I don't want to act unjustly and start cursing on the Germans. :D |
| 11:16.45 | crm__ | NZ is a very pure country |
| 11:16.53 | FT1 | go ahead... i'll join you... |
| 11:17.22 | anquietas | Pure, in a sense of ... ? crm__ |
| 11:17.47 | crm__ | anquietas, the animals... the insects |
| 11:17.59 | anquietas | Ah, untouched nature. |
| 11:18.43 | crm__ | anquietas, you could go bush-treking without having to worry about being bitten by a deadly snake or spider |
| 11:19.59 | anquietas | FT1, no, I don't think that it might be a good idea. =D I just haven't as yet been lucky to meet the right people, apparently. There are three possible reasons for that: Either there are no 'right people' in that country, or very few, or I do something wrong. Period. |
| 11:20.22 | anquietas | crm__, nice. I have heard of some deadly spiders native to New Zealand, though. |
| 11:20.34 | crm__ | which ones anquietas ? |
| 11:21.05 | FT1 | well... that's hard to say... in which area are you living ? |
| 11:21.45 | anquietas | crm__, I can't remember their scientific names - as far as I know a bite would kill a horse in a couple of minutes. |
| 11:22.08 | anquietas | FT1, I'm living near Munich. |
| 11:22.37 | FT1 | anquietas, I'm sorry |
| 11:22.51 | anquietas | Haha |
| 11:23.37 | anquietas | Are you from Germany? I would intuitively classify your name as being of British decent. |
| 11:25.53 | anquietas | FT1. |
| 11:26.05 | FT1 | I am German, I got my name after marrying an american... But even as such I would honestly say that in the specific area where you are living it is hard to find the right people |
| 11:26.42 | FT1 | They don't even speak German ;) |
| 11:27.40 | anquietas | What I had to face here were pure stupidity, ignorance, arrogance, obesity, and intolerance. |
| 11:27.45 | anquietas | :) |
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| 11:29.07 | FT1 | That sounds bavarian to me... :) |
| 11:29.39 | anquietas | Where are you from? (city) |
| 11:29.53 | FT1 | The thing with them is a) they do not consider themselves German, b) they think they are better than the rest |
| 11:30.16 | FT1 | I am living in Ludwigshafen, that is about 100 km southwest of Frankfurt |
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| 11:34.12 | FT1 | anquietas, are you being stationed in Germany, if I may ask ? |
| 11:34.51 | anquietas | I don't have the required experiences that would be necessitated by an attempt to compare Bavarians with the rest of Germany's population. Although I can hardly imagine that a folk's mentality could vary such strongly within a country itself... |
| 11:35.32 | anquietas | Stationed? No, my family moved to Germany seven years ago (from Hungary) and we've been living in Bavaria since then. |
| 11:37.40 | FT1 | Even though late, let me welcome you to Germany. :) |
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| 11:37.50 | anquietas | Heh, thanks. ^^ |
| 11:38.13 | anquietas | I met a girl online who is living in Schwerin/Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and she was at least as arrogant as my local community is. :D On the other hand, I doubt that one woman is representative for the mentality of an entire nation. |
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| 11:38.53 | FT1 | rofl |
| 11:39.52 | anquietas | Heh. |
| 11:40.25 | FT1 | Well lets say, we have "states" here and we have "free states". Bavaria is a "free state", which basically gives them more governing power over themselves than the other "states" have. |
| 11:41.20 | FT1 | I would have to say, since you have been living here for seven years, the best example for that in Bavaria would be Edmund Stoiber. He basically did whatever he wanted. |
| 11:42.53 | FT1 | Mecklenburg-Vorpommern on the other hand is a different matter. I have been stationed there for two years. I found the state by itself very nice, while the people take some getting used to. |
| 11:43.07 | keyra | FT1: :) |
| 11:43.15 | anquietas | Yes, but I don't see how that could affect the people's behaviour. ^^ |
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| 11:45.02 | FT1 | It does in a lot of ways. Bevarians by nature are arrogant, since they have more power over themselves (at least they think so). |
| 11:45.21 | anquietas | However, Bavarians, at least, seemingly have a very strong imaginativeness. =D Telling them that you're German, they won't notice any Hungarian accents in your speech - Contrary to if you were to tell them that you're Hungarian. |
| 11:46.43 | FT1 | As one of the states of the former East-Germany they still have some part of the "old" thinking in their mind. Not to say anything bad or to offend anybody. |
| 11:47.34 | FT1 | Sorry, the last was vor Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. |
| 11:47.44 | anquietas | Heh, yes. |
| 11:48.44 | FT1 | If you'd go to Mid-Germany, let's say you were to visit Heidelberg, you would get a totally different impression. |
| 11:49.43 | FT1 | Which of course has a lot to do with the presence of other nations. Like the British or the Americans. |
| 11:50.09 | anquietas | Heidelberg and Mannheim are nice cities, true. I've been to Mannheim ten years ago, but sadly too young to notice the people's attitudes. |
| 11:51.01 | FT1 | Hey, then I probably wouldn't have had to explain where Ludwigshafen is. ;) |
| 11:51.11 | anquietas | True. :) |
| 11:54.29 | FT1 | But I know what you mean. I have come to experience the same things since my husband move to Germany from the States to years ago. |
| 11:55.20 | FT1 | The overwhelming feeling of ignorance and closed-mindedness left me absolutely dumb-founded. |
| 11:55.32 | anquietas | Hm. Am I still talking to the same person? |
| 11:55.35 | anquietas | =D |
| 11:55.46 | FT1 | Yes you are... ;) |
| 11:55.59 | anquietas | Ah, okay. Forgive me - I was confused for a moment. |
| 11:56.20 | FT1 | Don't worry. It is all fine. |
| 11:57.43 | anquietas | Indeed; Closed-mindedness is exactly what I have to face every day. |
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| 11:58.29 | FT1 | I do have to say though if you are not able to understand your own people any more, there is something really wrong. |
| 11:59.36 | anquietas | Nowhere I have been to before have I met so many people who simply haven't been given the ability to understand simplest idea slightly being outside of their box of perception. |
| 12:00.00 | anquietas | <the simplest>, typo. |
| 12:02.20 | FT1 | I have someone here you can absolutely relate to that. I hear that every day. :) |
| 12:02.45 | FT1 | <who> sorry, typo |
| 12:03.30 | anquietas | However - I don't know how to handle this situation correctly, as the German's/Bavarian's ignorance, closed-mindedness, intolerance and arrogance may one day drive me mad, or significantly affect my career negatively. |
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| 12:04.53 | Tommy | hi, is there any way to auto-login into elive? |
| 12:05.03 | anquietas | Hm. Good question. |
| 12:05.22 | anquietas | I don't know, sorry. But, geez, the Entrance looks so great! |
| 12:05.27 | Tommy | i only have one user. It would make life easier for me |
| 12:05.41 | anquietas | FT1, the most severe and least obvious distinctiveness of the Bavarian government is, that too many dumb people are given judicial powers far exceeding their range of competence. |
| 12:05.42 | FT1 | you just have to think to yourself what they are already thinking outloud "Its none of my concern" |
| 12:05.52 | Tommy | the entrance is nice, i was amazed the first time i saw it |
| 12:06.23 | FT1 | rofl |
| 12:06.57 | FT1 | The above statement was my husband. That is one of the statements that we repeatedly got from officials. |
| 12:07.41 | FT1 | But I do have to agree that you are 100 % right there. As sad as it is for us. |
| 12:09.05 | anquietas | I have been far too naive during my life in Germany - I have always trusted the law and presumed that no one could affect my career on the basis of a personal aversion again me. I was ... totally wrong. |
| 12:10.09 | anquietas | That is a clearly too long a tale to tell - but I guess you can imagine what I mean. |
| 12:11.22 | FT1 | Yes, I do. Even though laws against mobbing, discrimination, etc. have been passed, they still are on paper. And paper is quite patient. |
| 12:12.24 | anquietas | Mhm, you have a serious problem in Germany, or at least in Bavaria, if someone in the government or a leading person of your local systems personally hates you. |
| 12:13.44 | FT1 | Well that is a problem of Germany. But imho I have never seen a reason why to hate people from Hungary. |
| 12:13.58 | keyra | FT1: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 12:14.38 | FT1 | I had twice the opportunity to work with Hungarians. I found it very pleasant in insightful. |
| 12:14.41 | anquietas | That's what unfortunately happened to me. :D I have a special skill, namely to make Germans hate me. I don't know how I do that, but sooner or later they start disliking me. At least those I've had the pleasure to meet as yet. |
| 12:15.36 | FT1 | keyra: But what would be the problem ? |
| 12:15.50 | anquietas | keyra is a bot, FT1. ^^ Hehe |
| 12:16.04 | keyra | anquietas: you think so ? |
| 12:16.09 | anquietas | >.< |
| 12:16.17 | FT1 | ok... I'm confused. |
| 12:17.04 | anquietas | Don't be. Keyra is a program running on this server. She has a very basic artificial intelligence. |
| 12:17.30 | AlexAnteMachina | Keyra IS a bot. Say something concerning microsoft or windows and she'll let you know. |
| 12:17.54 | FT1 | So, what does she do ? |
| 12:18.09 | anquietas | She answers rudimentary questions on Elive and Linux. |
| 12:18.18 | anquietas | keyra, tests. |
| 12:18.25 | AlexAnteMachina | it reacts on specified words |
| 12:18.27 | FT1 | ah... ok thank you. |
| 12:18.32 | keyra | anquietas: test ? o_O what are you thinking' ? |
| 12:18.45 | anquietas | You see. |
| 12:18.57 | anquietas | ^^ Hehe. |
| 12:19.13 | AlexAnteMachina | and it doesn't like too much questionmarks. |
| 12:19.37 | FT1 | OK. I will remember that. :) |
| 12:19.37 | AlexAnteMachina | so sometimes it's a pain in the ass. |
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| 12:20.53 | FT1 | anquietas. If it is a consilation for you. I am pleased to meet you. My name is Manuel. |
| 12:21.13 | lidia_90 | ola |
| 12:21.18 | anquietas | Nice to meet you, Manuel. ^^ |
| 12:21.26 | anquietas | lidia_90, hola. |
| 12:21.31 | anquietas | Que tal? |
| 12:21.37 | lidia_90 | bien |
| 12:21.40 | keyra | anquietas: que tal ? |
| 12:21.49 | lidia_90 | bien |
| 12:22.12 | lidia_90 | quantos años teneis? |
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| 12:23.21 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 12:23.34 | anquietas | Some people are in quite a hurry ... |
| 12:24.00 | FT1 | seems like it... |
| 12:24.31 | FT1 | But if you excuse me for a moment. I'm going to have a smoke. |
| 12:24.38 | anquietas | Of course. |
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| 12:34.33 | FT1 | So, I am back for the moment. |
| 12:36.36 | FT1 | anquietas. Are you going to be online tonight ? I really enjoyed our conversation and I would like to continue later. But for the moment we would have to go downtown. |
| 12:37.57 | anquietas | I shall be online, yes. |
| 12:38.02 | anquietas | Have a good day. |
| 12:38.04 | anquietas | Ciao |
| 12:39.36 | FT1 | Thank you. Same to you. See you later. |
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| 12:56.24 | Chi11y | omg, I have proof that windows is stupid :o |
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| 12:57.23 | Chi11y | http://lunarpyramid.googlepages.com/englishversion-computerprotection.png <-- that is from my windows XP computer, orignally in swedish but translated to english in photoshop so you can read it :P I promise it is real, just translated.. |
| 12:57.26 | Chi11y | >.< |
| 12:57.37 | keyra | Chi11y: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 12:58.04 | anquietas | Ahaha. Yes, that happend to me, too. |
| 12:58.24 | Chi11y | it's just plain stupid >.< |
| 13:00.45 | wasynyt | the best i have had is (from memory) |
| 13:01.01 | wasynyt | net send packet error: no error |
| 13:01.05 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 13:01.07 | Chi11y | >.< |
| 13:01.16 | Chi11y | yeh, that's stupid too |
| 13:01.41 | trog | while playing with .NET 2.0, i got the following message (from memory) : "Error. You need to install library <whatever> to display the error message." |
| 13:01.57 | Chi11y | loool |
| 13:01.59 | wasynyt | one quite common is |
| 13:02.02 | trog | i installed it, and indeed, it gave me the text for the error message |
| 13:02.10 | Chi11y | when I did a fresh winXP install once, it hanged after 30seconds |
| 13:02.26 | Chi11y | I clicked "network connections" |
| 13:02.42 | Chi11y | freeze |
| 13:02.45 | Chi11y | >.< |
| 13:02.55 | wasynyt | you need more space to delete this file, free space by deleting files |
| 13:03.06 | wasynyt | that is quite famous |
| 13:03.18 | Chi11y | yeah, it has happened me numerous times |
| 13:03.31 | wasynyt | it is so absurd |
| 13:03.55 | Chi11y | but the best is when gates is showing up win98 and get a bsod |
| 13:04.00 | wasynyt | with errors like that |
| 13:04.49 | wasynyt | perhaps some binary blobs |
| 13:04.53 | Chi11y | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TGLhuF3L48U |
| 13:04.58 | Chi11y | (:) |
| 13:05.34 | wasynyt | hmmhmm |
| 13:05.47 | Chi11y | pwned :P |
| 13:06.38 | CuleX | It's really old but still funny |
| 13:06.45 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 13:06.55 | Chi11y | indeed |
| 13:06.59 | Chi11y | I lmao every time :P |
| 13:07.11 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 14:11.59 | roxville | good morning Tanner! |
| 14:12.17 | Tanner | G'day. |
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| 14:34.01 | Elive_user52 | hi |
| 14:34.15 | Elive_user52 | hi |
| 14:34.24 | elive_nate | hi |
| 14:34.41 | Elive_user52 | where do you from |
| 14:35.07 | elive_nate | michigan |
| 14:35.13 | Elive_user52 | usa |
| 14:35.18 | elive_nate | yes |
| 14:35.31 | Elive_user52 | yes, im from brasil |
| 14:35.50 | elive_nate | hello |
| 14:36.04 | keyra | elive_nate: hi |
| 14:36.05 | Elive_user52 | im here |
| 14:36.27 | Elive_user52 | hi, keyra |
| 14:36.41 | keyra | Elive_user52: hi :) |
| 14:37.02 | Elive_user52 | : ) |
| 14:37.14 | Elive_user52 | do you from |
| 14:37.32 | elive_nate | "where are you from" |
| 14:37.55 | Elive_user52 | i'm Brasil... |
| 14:38.06 | Elive_user52 | and keyra... |
| 14:38.09 | roxville | hi Brasil :) |
| 14:38.18 | Elive_user52 | good |
| 14:38.24 | elive_nate | "I'm from brazil" |
| 14:38.49 | roxville | or "i'm brazilian" |
| 14:39.00 | Elive_user52 | where of brasil |
| 14:40.18 | roxville | lol, no i am NOT from brazil... we were just trying to help you become even better at english! |
| 14:40.30 | elive_nate | yup :) |
| 14:41.05 | roxville | hi elive_nate how ya doin'? |
| 14:41.18 | Elive_user52 | my english is very bad too. |
| 14:42.10 | Elive_user52 | rox, where do you from? |
| 14:43.19 | elive_nate | roxville, I'm doin alright |
| 14:43.22 | Elive_user52 | hi,iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 14:43.23 | elive_nate | its good to be back |
| 14:44.07 | roxville | good to see you back :) |
| 14:44.23 | elive_nate | I still a got a lot to learn though... like almost everything :) |
| 14:44.38 | Elive_user52 | bye.. |
| 14:44.45 | roxville | Elive_user52, i am from sweden, but live in the u.s.a. |
| 14:45.04 | caim | Elive_user52: i'm from Brazil too :) |
| 14:45.04 | roxville | hehe elive_nate we all do |
| 14:46.03 | Elive_user52 | onde do brasil |
| 14:46.16 | caim | Curitiba/PR |
| 14:46.28 | Elive_user52 | vc está no brasil |
| 14:46.31 | caim | but i live in Spain |
| 14:46.47 | Elive_user52 | vc usa oelive agora.. |
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| 14:47.01 | caim | Elive_user52: usava |
| 14:47.23 | caim | Elive_user52: gosto bastante, e smepre recomendo ele |
| 14:47.25 | caim | por? |
| 14:48.35 | Elive_user52 | não porque sou usuário avançado em linux e fiquei muito surpreso em esse Linux. muito interessante.. |
| 14:48.59 | Elive_user52 | digo em conhecê-lo |
| 14:49.16 | Elive_user52 | vc mexe com finformatica.. |
| 14:49.18 | trog | http://youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE |
| 14:49.36 | caim | Elive_user52: sim, mas atualmente nao uso linux |
| 14:49.59 | roxville | :) |
| 14:50.01 | elive_nate | so howdo you pm someone on here? |
| 14:50.08 | elive_nate | I'm using xchat |
| 14:50.22 | roxville | elive_nate, /query nick |
| 14:50.23 | Elive_user52 | esse chat existe para outra plataforma.. |
| 14:50.42 | caim | Elive_user52: q? |
| 14:51.26 | Elive_user52 | esse chat q vc usa está no windows? |
| 14:51.34 | caim | nao uso windows |
| 14:51.41 | Elive_user52 | e sua qual.. |
| 14:51.50 | Elive_user52 | digo usa qual |
| 14:51.59 | caim | Elive_user52: freebsd |
| 14:52.07 | caim | o cliente eh irssi |
| 14:52.32 | trog | BitchX > irssi :> |
| 14:52.38 | Elive_user52 | Ah, tá é massa, mt bom. e aí como ta a espanha |
| 14:53.08 | caim | eh sussegado morar aqui |
| 14:53.08 | anquietas | lol, trog. Great video! Thanks |
| 14:53.16 | trog | np anquietas ;) |
| 14:53.33 | Elive_user52 | sentes muita saudade da terrinha.. |
| 14:53.33 | caim | trog: i changed to irssi last week |
| 14:53.47 | caim | Elive_user52: com certeza |
| 14:54.02 | caim | a diferença eh grande nas pessoas |
| 14:54.09 | trog | caim: i used irssi for a while ...still, i find BitchX more configurable ...themeable ;) |
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| 14:54.26 | roxville | hi trog :) |
| 14:54.28 | Elive_user52 | desculpa, como assim....tipo aqui existe mais calor humanbo.. |
| 14:54.36 | trog | heya roxville :) |
| 14:54.38 | roxville | trog, we have a new forum for you to play with :) |
| 14:54.47 | trog | hrm....forum ? :> |
| 14:54.49 | caim | trog: i still used bitchx :) |
| 14:55.02 | caim | Elive_user52: exatamente isso |
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| 14:55.12 | trog | roxville: whats the url ? |
| 14:55.13 | roxville | trog, http://forum.elivecd.org/index.php |
| 14:55.36 | Elive_user52 | e quando vc presente matar a saudade desse calor... |
| 14:57.12 | Elive_user52 | oi caim |
| 14:57.25 | caim | Elive_user52: em setembro |
| 14:57.30 | elive_nate | ?msg roxville like this? |
| 14:58.09 | Elive_user52 | a sua família vai ficar mt feliz com certeza.. |
| 14:58.47 | caim | e eu tambem :) |
| 14:59.00 | caim | Elive_user52: vc eh da onde? |
| 14:59.11 | Elive_user52 | Recife.. |
| 14:59.47 | Elive_user52 | por aqui muito calor e muita alegria do nossopovo... |
| 15:00.16 | Elive_user52 | problemas existe mais somos felizes.. |
| 15:00.40 | caim | pois eh, cidade bonita, nunca fui mas jah vi fotos e ouvir falar |
| 15:01.46 | Elive_user52 | quando puder, venha curtir o sol do nordeste é mt gostoso e muita natureza... |
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| 15:02.28 | caim | com certeza, quero explorar mais o brasil |
| 15:02.38 | caim | principalmente o nordeste |
| 15:02.43 | Mtraker | hi |
| 15:03.11 | Elive_user52 | o sol da espanha deve ser muito legal no verão, pelo q vejo... |
| 15:03.36 | caim | Elive_user52: eh sim |
| 15:04.52 | caim | Elive_user52: to indo nessa cara |
| 15:04.55 | Elive_user52 | cara vou ter q sair, pois, vou ter formatar essa máquina e reisntalar o ruindows para minha esposa? |
| 15:04.57 | caim | aparece ae |
| 15:05.06 | caim | blza |
| 15:05.13 | caim | boa sorte |
| 15:05.13 | Elive_user52 | tchau... |
| 15:05.18 | Elive_user52 | pra vc tb |
| 15:05.20 | caim | ateh :) |
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| 15:36.17 | anquietas | roxville, may I ask you how to add an icon to the ibar? |
| 15:37.16 | Gwildor | anquietas, open the app you want... drag the icon from the upper left part of the window down to ibar |
| 15:37.40 | anquietas | Doesn't work, because there is no eap file available. |
| 15:38.08 | Gwildor | right click the title bar ...edit icon |
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| 15:44.36 | anquietas | Yes, Gwildor |
| 15:47.36 | Gwildor | didja do that? |
| 15:47.42 | Gwildor | give it an icon...give it a name.. |
| 15:47.45 | Gwildor | then drag to the ibar |
| 15:48.14 | anquietas | Yes, I did that twice. The problem is, that it's a java application. It doesn't seem to work. |
| 15:48.22 | anquietas | How can I delete already existing eaps? |
| 15:50.18 | anquietas | Damn. I have to leave for a while. |
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| 16:36.05 | LinuxNIT | Gwildor, ping |
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| 16:53.55 | Elive_user62 | ne1 using weechat? |
| 16:54.17 | trog | weechat ? whats that ? :) |
| 16:54.36 | ggordon | anyone using weechat? |
| 16:54.55 | trog | looks like BitchX/irssi :) |
| 16:55.00 | ggordon | hi keyra |
| 16:55.01 | trog | do you have problems with it ? :) |
| 16:55.14 | keyra | ggordon: hi :) |
| 16:55.17 | ggordon | installed pkgs |
| 16:55.27 | ggordon | wondered ghow to start it |
| 16:55.46 | ggordon | tried weechat from term |
| 16:55.52 | ggordon | that wasn't it |
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| 16:56.17 | trog | start a midnight commander (mc), and go to /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 16:56.27 | trog | look for weechat-blablabla.deb |
| 16:56.37 | trog | hit enter, and browse the directories found in there |
| 16:56.45 | trog | look for something in /usr/bin ... |
| 16:56.59 | ggordon | ok trog |
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| 17:00.33 | trog | you'll find there the name of the binary ...you wont be able to execute it from there ...usefull only to know the name :) |
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| 18:29.08 | FT1 | Good evening everybody. |
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| 18:29.43 | NathanExplosion | morning ft1 |
| 18:30.36 | FT1 | NathanExplosion. What time is it where you are? |
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| 18:43.32 | anquietas | Good evening FT1 |
| 18:43.46 | NathanExplosion | apt anquietas |
| 18:43.51 | anquietas | Hah. |
| 18:44.20 | anquietas | Good Lord. I don't know whether I wish to hear what apt has to say... |
| 18:44.24 | NathanExplosion | apt anquietas is a studious young man who seems to enjoy cuddling with others of the same sex. His sexual preference is unknown by many. |
| 18:44.25 | apt | okay, NathanExplosion |
| 18:44.33 | anquietas | Ahaha. |
| 18:44.57 | NathanExplosion | ;) |
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| 18:45.05 | Mtraker | hi |
| 18:45.16 | NathanExplosion | hi mtracker |
| 18:45.48 | anquietas | NathanExplosion, there are not many women here, if any, who I could identify as such and cuddle. Furthermore, everyone likes to be cuddled. Irrespective of the sex. |
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| 18:46.16 | NathanExplosion | yes but many men do not like to be cuddled with others of the same sex :P |
| 18:46.35 | anquietas | Maybe. You may be lucky that it's just virtual. :D |
| 18:46.49 | NathanExplosion | indeed hence... |
| 18:46.52 | NathanExplosion | apt anquietas |
| 18:46.53 | apt | anquietas is, like, a studious young man who seems to enjoy cuddling with others of the same sex. His sexual preference is unknown by many. |
| 18:46.53 | Mtraker | i've a litle problem with gimp, when i make a selecction crashing. |
| 18:47.09 | anquietas | Hey wasynyt :D |
| 18:47.11 | NathanExplosion | goodnight wasynyt |
| 18:47.13 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:47.22 | NathanExplosion | good evening* |
| 18:47.22 | NathanExplosion | wow |
| 18:47.24 | NathanExplosion | i'm tired |
| 18:47.29 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:47.32 | wasynyt | how are you people doing |
| 18:47.50 | anquietas | Fine, though NathanExplosion can't help himself and must tease me. |
| 18:47.55 | wasynyt | heh |
| 18:48.04 | wasynyt | apt wasynyt |
| 18:48.04 | apt | well, wasynyt is a weird slapping, or liking cervesa |
| 18:48.23 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:48.35 | wasynyt | apt cervesa |
| 18:48.44 | wasynyt | apt x es en cervesa |
| 18:48.51 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:48.55 | anquietas | Hmhm. |
| 18:48.56 | Mtraker | i wrong |
| 18:49.00 | Mtraker | is wrong |
| 18:49.04 | wasynyt | heh |
| 18:49.05 | Mtraker | cerveZa |
| 18:49.14 | wasynyt | apt x es en cerveza |
| 18:49.19 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:49.21 | Mtraker | :-) |
| 18:49.34 | wasynyt | that might very well be true |
| 18:49.55 | NathanExplosion | mmm beer |
| 18:50.21 | wasynyt | some taste like... |
| 18:50.22 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 18:50.24 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:50.49 | wasynyt | hmm there seems to be one word missing |
| 18:50.49 | NathanExplosion | like what? |
| 18:50.56 | NathanExplosion | what word? |
| 18:50.56 | FT1 | good evening anquietas |
| 18:51.03 | anquietas | Heh, yes, you Finn drink alcohole instead of water, wasynyt. :D |
| 18:51.05 | wasynyt | *not all .... |
| 18:51.07 | anquietas | <Finns> |
| 18:51.17 | wasynyt | nah not allways... |
| 18:51.17 | NathanExplosion | water sucks lol |
| 18:51.29 | anquietas | I mainly drink water. >.< |
| 18:51.38 | anquietas | And coffee. |
| 18:51.45 | wasynyt | water hear is very clean.. so i drink it. no need for bottled water |
| 18:51.46 | NathanExplosion | mt dew, IT RUNS IN MY VEINS |
| 18:51.54 | wasynyt | that is bad |
| 18:51.56 | FT1 | coke and coffee... i need the caffein... :) |
| 18:52.06 | wasynyt | i think that you might need some insuline |
| 18:52.10 | NathanExplosion | and of course beer |
| 18:52.14 | NathanExplosion | i almost never drink water |
| 18:52.14 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:52.20 | wasynyt | thats odd |
| 18:52.39 | trog | i drink alot of it |
| 18:52.53 | trog | carry a bottle which i fill |
| 18:53.02 | FT1 | That would depend. Is the water carbonated or not ? |
| 18:53.08 | NathanExplosion | not |
| 18:53.10 | wasynyt | just plain water |
| 18:53.18 | trog | clean water, makes the body feel good ;) |
| 18:53.23 | FT1 | Than I can live without it... |
| 18:53.36 | NathanExplosion | trog, i can't tell a difference, other than pissing a lot more |
| 18:53.36 | trog | it cleans it...purifies it ;) |
| 18:53.43 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:53.47 | FT1 | <Then> sorry typo |
| 18:54.00 | wasynyt | yeah.. when one has not drinked water one will notice it |
| 18:54.14 | NathanExplosion | notice it how? |
| 18:54.16 | trog | i need water...this summer there were 45C degrees ... |
| 18:54.26 | wasynyt | that is bad |
| 18:54.33 | NathanExplosion | i can't remember the last time i had a glass of water |
| 18:54.37 | wasynyt | we had only something like 28-30 |
| 18:54.43 | wasynyt | NathanExplosion, really |
| 18:54.48 | wasynyt | maybe you should try |
| 18:54.53 | wasynyt | just for old times |
| 18:54.59 | NathanExplosion | yeah? |
| 18:55.00 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:55.08 | trog | :P |
| 18:55.10 | NathanExplosion | i used to drink flavored sport water all the time all day |
| 18:55.31 | wasynyt | *to be |
| 18:55.37 | NathanExplosion | because it's boring and i get tired of drinking |
| 18:55.43 | FT1 | lol |
| 18:56.01 | NathanExplosion | oh i remember when i drank! |
| 18:56.04 | wasynyt | hmm.. is drinking supposed to be exiciting |
| 18:56.06 | trog | when i'm in a drinking session, i sometimes stop the flow of alcohol, and drink 1l of water...gets me a bit more sober...then i start drinking alcohool again...keeps me up longer |
| 18:56.09 | FT1 | I've got a question if I may. |
| 18:56.17 | NathanExplosion | last time i smoked my hookah, i always drink water when i smoke hookah |
| 18:56.25 | wasynyt | FT1, yeah ofcourse |
| 18:56.41 | wasynyt | *is |
| 18:57.07 | NathanExplosion | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah |
| 18:57.14 | FT1 | How much faster can I make my system by giving it a bigger swap-partition? |
| 18:57.31 | wasynyt | depends on the ammount of ram |
| 18:57.41 | trog | FT1: what filesystems do you have ? |
| 18:57.55 | FT1 | I use ext3. |
| 18:57.59 | trog | great! :D |
| 18:58.26 | trog | mount them with the "noatime,nodiratime" options...in /etc/fstab (_after_ 'defaults' option) |
| 18:58.34 | wasynyt | thanks trog |
| 18:58.54 | trog | and remount the partition (mount /dev/partition -o remount,rw) |
| 18:59.06 | trog | anytime :) |
| 18:59.39 | trog | dont try these on reiserfs partitions ... |
| 18:59.55 | wasynyt | heh |
| 19:00.01 | trog | :D |
| 19:00.01 | wasynyt | that might be interesting |
| 19:00.17 | FT1 | Thanks, I will make note of that. |
| 19:00.46 | FT1 | But asked the other way. I am using a rather old laptop at the moment, which has 128 MB RAM. |
| 19:00.55 | trog | FT1: http://kerneltrap.org/node/14148 (worth reading) |
| 19:01.18 | trog | you will feel the difference at hard disk access/usage |
| 19:01.23 | FT1 | Would it make sense to give it a like 2 GB swap-file? |
| 19:01.34 | wasynyt | i would say no |
| 19:01.40 | wasynyt | 1 gig should do |
| 19:01.51 | trog | it is a more visible improvement, on rather slower hardware |
| 19:02.04 | wasynyt | but you can monitor it by checking how much it is being used |
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| 19:07.17 | wasynyt | but swao really slows the system down.. so by adding even another 128 or mere 64 mb of ram usually gives more oomph to the machine than swap |
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| 19:09.09 | puster1 | I am sorry for the different name at the moment, but I have to work on that laptop for the moment. I am FT1 |
| 19:09.21 | wasynyt | k |
| 19:09.41 | wasynyt | so you are running on a laptop with 126 mem |
| 19:09.44 | wasynyt | *128 |
| 19:10.23 | puster1 | Yes. I am using an old Sony Vaio from 2001. It runs Elive perfectly though. ;) |
| 19:10.30 | wasynyt | nice |
| 19:11.19 | puster1 | I just want to make it a little bit faster, since the RAM I need is SO-DIMM PC133, and that is about antique nowadays. :) |
| 19:11.28 | wasynyt | you might be able to find some ram for it on the internet.. places like ebay and such.. but i think that it might be harder to find mem on normal shops.. |
| 19:12.03 | puster1 | Well I've seen a single chip today. But 60 Euros for 128 MB is a little expensive. |
| 19:12.06 | wasynyt | and i would guess that those would not cost that much because of theyre size an age |
| 19:12.12 | wasynyt | yeah it is |
| 19:13.07 | NathanExplosion | the beauty of linux |
| 19:13.38 | trog | puster1: try that tip i gave you. you will feel a signifiant improvement ;) |
| 19:13.50 | puster1 | That is true. On the bottom of the Laptop there is still a sticker with a Windows XP Key. Made me laugh a little. |
| 19:14.22 | NathanExplosion | yeah i installed linux on my friends laptop and it says "made for windows xp" |
| 19:14.32 | puster1 | ^^ |
| 19:14.36 | keyra | NathanExplosion: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 19:14.43 | NathanExplosion | apt bash keyra |
| 19:14.44 | apt | ACTION beats keyra with ksh |
| 19:14.45 | puster1 | rofl |
| 19:14.53 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 19:14.58 | puster1 | that is so true. |
| 19:15.34 | puster1 | anquietas. Did chilly find a solution for that problem of his ? |
| 19:16.01 | NathanExplosion | apt seen ksryno |
| 19:16.03 | apt | ksryno <n=Elive_us@ip68-102-15-194.ks.ok.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 2d 10h 16m 57s ago, saying: 'hello'. |
| 19:16.17 | anquietas | Hold on... |
| 19:16.18 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 19:16.18 | apt | hello, keyra |
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| 19:16.26 | NathanExplosion | stupid bots |
| 19:16.27 | anquietas | No, he didn't. |
| 19:16.33 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 19:16.33 | apt | hello, keyra |
| 19:16.34 | anquietas | Or, well, I don't know. :D |
| 19:16.40 | wasynyt | heh |
| 19:16.47 | keyra | NathanExplosion: no... stupid human |
| 19:16.54 | NathanExplosion | apt punch keyra |
| 19:16.54 | apt | ACTION hits keyra like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 19:16.56 | puster1 | Is he/she likely to come back today ? |
| 19:17.09 | keyra | apt: hi :) |
| 19:17.10 | apt | Many greetings, :), most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 19:17.30 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 19:17.31 | anquietas | Possibly. I am not sure, though, puster1. |
| 19:17.52 | puster1 | For I have got his solution. |
| 19:18.14 | puster1 | Or her solution. It's one of the things M$ has taught me. |
| 19:18.21 | trog | http://pastebin.com/d4395c1ad |
| 19:18.27 | NathanExplosion | eh? M$? |
| 19:18.30 | trog | this is how my hard drives are partitioned :D |
| 19:18.38 | trog | and mounted... |
| 19:18.49 | trog | well, 2 of them |
| 19:18.51 | puster1 | Micro$oft... :) |
| 19:19.11 | NathanExplosion | how did ms teach you that? |
| 19:19.45 | trog | http://pastebin.com/d2705cd1 |
| 19:20.17 | wasynyt | what is the size of your swap partition |
| 19:20.30 | trog | 1gb, but i didnt see it ever used |
| 19:20.32 | puster1 | Well, referring to the conversation anquietas and I had in the early afternoon, we (that is my husband and me) are preparing to emigrate to the U.S. |
| 19:20.37 | trog | i have 1gb of it |
| 19:20.57 | wasynyt | one gig should do |
| 19:21.02 | wasynyt | in most cases |
| 19:21.34 | puster1 | but as I need a job there and I can live sitting in front of a computer, I took some MS courses, to make me a Systems Administrator. |
| 19:21.35 | NathanExplosion | do you always need a swap partition? |
| 19:21.53 | wasynyt | nope but it is good to have |
| 19:21.55 | trog | on my 256 laptop, 1gb it does... |
| 19:22.09 | keyra | trog: thanks... bot :) |
| 19:22.43 | NathanExplosion | how likely am i to need a swap partition if i already have 2 gb? |
| 19:22.58 | wasynyt | NathanExplosion, 2 gig of ram |
| 19:23.14 | trog | NathanExplosion: somewhere under 1 percent |
| 19:23.22 | wasynyt | nope |
| 19:23.32 | NathanExplosion | nope what? |
| 19:23.34 | trog | unleast you're doing heavy vming |
| 19:23.35 | wasynyt | only thing it needs is one or two BIG pictures |
| 19:23.41 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 19:24.10 | anquietas | Heh, that's a nice conclusion drawn from the facts obvious to foreigners, puster1. =D Do you already know where you will settle down in the US? |
| 19:25.12 | puster1 | lol... At the beginning we'll be living in Arkansas, where his family is. |
| 19:25.46 | anquietas | Ah. :) |
| 19:26.05 | puster1 | anquietas. How well do you understand German ? |
| 19:26.58 | anquietas | Fluently, puster1. |
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| 19:29.59 | wasynyt | <-food |
| 19:30.59 | puster1 | Excellent. I found a newspaper-article today, which I found extremely funny. |
| 19:31.17 | puster1 | But I need to find it again... |
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| 19:37.25 | puster1 | Here we go. http://www.mopo.de/2007/20070823/hamburg/panorama/3000_euro_fuer_einen_eistee.html |
| 19:37.29 | ggordon | this is a test |
| 19:37.42 | ggordon | working :) |
| 19:38.10 | puster1 | Sorry it took so long. |
| 19:38.30 | ggordon | hi keyra |
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| 19:38.44 | keyra | ggordon: hi :) |
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| 19:39.43 | anquietas | Never mind, puster1; I was in the kitchen to brew a cup of coffee. |
| 19:40.03 | puster1 | OK. Did you get the link ? |
| 19:40.13 | anquietas | Definitely. Hold on... |
| 19:40.17 | puster1 | And, enjoy your coffee. |
| 19:40.23 | Elive_user76 | hi, why in elive is xmms? better is audacious.. thunerar?! why not, pcmanfm?! |
| 19:40.36 | anquietas | Amarok is the best, Elive_user76. |
| 19:40.45 | anquietas | XMMS looks better, though. |
| 19:40.49 | Elive_user76 | i know but qt is suck;) |
| 19:41.05 | puster1 | I like XMMS, but Amarok has more possibilites. |
| 19:41.20 | Elive_user76 | new audacius look 100% xmmms |
| 19:41.21 | trog | indeed, its more powerfull... |
| 19:41.21 | NathanExplosion | i like xmms better than amarok |
| 19:41.26 | trog | but i dont like qt |
| 19:41.37 | NathanExplosion | i haven't tried audacius |
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| 19:42.53 | Gwildor | LinuxNIT-II, u needed me/ |
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| 19:47.19 | anquietas | puster1, the tale told in the link you sent me is hilarious. I wonder whether such could happen 'elsewhere', too, with the same consequences. |
| 19:49.10 | puster1 | I am pretty sure. I am mean, those are lawsuits of a quality one is used to from the US. Like the one against Phillip Morris. |
| 19:50.55 | anquietas | True, but it's obviously intended to pull a short one on the victims. |
| 19:51.16 | Limericist | hi, I am still trying to change the gtk theme of synaptic, and increase the font size, all to no avail ... |
| 19:52.05 | puster1 | That is true. I mean, who in their right mind is going all out like that, just for a picture ? |
| 19:52.19 | Limericist | if you are in elive e17, bet you can't do it either |
| 19:56.25 | anquietas | Indeed, puster1. Sometimes I forget my moral concepts and just envy those for the money they get. But on the other hand - it's a mere impertinence that someone dares to treat others like that, baselessly, solely for a few pictures unintentionally 'stolen'. |
| 19:59.07 | puster1 | I know. It's crazy. And the judge even is going to punish that guy. I feel sorry for him. In my opinion this is just not right. |
| 20:01.37 | puster1 | ok. another question. How do I get the userlist to show in XChat ? |
| 20:02.17 | puster1 | I can't see why I can't get that to work. |
| 20:02.41 | anquietas | ? |
| 20:03.07 | anquietas | Move your cursor to the right edge of the xchat window and you shall notice a change of the cursor icon. |
| 20:03.20 | anquietas | Then click and drag it to the left. |
| 20:03.31 | anquietas | This unhides the userlist in my xchat. |
| 20:03.47 | puster1 | Thank you. That did indeed help. |
| 20:03.59 | anquietas | Heh. |
| 20:04.06 | anquietas | I must admit that it was a wild guess. |
| 20:04.15 | puster1 | Right on. |
| 20:04.23 | anquietas | Indeed. |
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| 20:08.19 | puster1 | Good evening Chilly. |
| 20:08.39 | Chi11y | hello puster1 |
| 20:08.44 | Chi11y | whats up? |
| 20:08.54 | keyra | Chi11y: hi |
| 20:09.24 | puster1 | Do I remember correctly that you had that Data Execution Prevention problem on Win XP ? |
| 20:09.32 | Chi11y | yeh :P |
| 20:09.45 | puster1 | Do you need help solving it ? |
| 20:09.59 | Chi11y | nope :P |
| 20:10.20 | puster1 | OK. |
| 20:10.24 | Chi11y | I just found it a nit funny :P |
| 20:10.30 | Chi11y | <bit> |
| 20:11.25 | Limericist | .. so I guess I'm right, no one can configure the font size of synaptic in elive - funny |
| 20:11.42 | Chi11y | apt chi11y is a swedish elive fanatic that eats rusty nails for breakfast, and also #elive's ultimate typo master |
| 20:11.42 | apt | ...but chi11y is already something else... |
| 20:11.50 | Chi11y | apt forget chi11y |
| 20:11.50 | apt | Chi11y: i forgot chi11y |
| 20:11.53 | Chi11y | apt chi11y is a swedish elive fanatic that eats rusty nails for breakfast, and also #elive's ultimate typo master |
| 20:11.53 | apt | okay, Chi11y |
| 20:11.57 | keyra | apt: do it! |
| 20:11.57 | apt | ACTION does it!. |
| 20:12.04 | Limericist | ! apt is back ... apt vodka |
| 20:12.05 | Chi11y | ~chi11y |
| 20:12.05 | apt | [chi11y] a swedish elive fanatic that eats rusty nails for breakfast, and also #elive's ultimate typo master |
| 20:12.20 | Limericist | vodka |
| 20:12.31 | Limericist | ~vodka |
| 20:12.32 | apt | i guess vodka is Chilled Absolute Black Kurrant |
| 20:12.42 | Limericist | ~cookies |
| 20:12.43 | apt | <Zygo> our corporate web guy is talking to our corporate database guy...about this "service" where site A sells us a list of cookie keys (and associated name/address/phone number values) that they set in their users' browsers when said users follow a link to our site. |
| 20:15.37 | Chi11y | ~Limericist |
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| 20:27.38 | anquietas | Hmmmhm. |
| 20:27.40 | anquietas | Fascinating. |
| 20:28.08 | NathanExplosion | hmm? |
| 20:28.31 | Chi11y | hmmmm? |
| 20:28.45 | NathanExplosion | i sneezed |
| 20:29.16 | Chi11y | o.o |
| 20:30.00 | anquietas | No. |
| 20:30.09 | anquietas | Hot-swapping of source code in Erlang / Lisp. |
| 20:30.14 | anquietas | That's fascinating. |
| 20:32.00 | Theoden | http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/07/Internetargument.jpg |
| 20:33.09 | anquietas | :D |
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| 20:34.07 | Wizard | awww |
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| 20:35.27 | anquietas | Cute child. |
| 20:35.31 | Wizard | hello all :) |
| 20:35.46 | keyra | Wizard: hi |
| 20:35.50 | bentejuy | hi Wizard :) |
| 20:35.59 | Wizard | ^^ |
| 20:36.07 | Wizard | oh my gods.. i'm drunk |
| 20:36.21 | bentejuy | O_o |
| 20:36.25 | Wizard | i'm so drunk that i installed xubuntu |
| 20:36.30 | Wizard | and it even works |
| 20:36.37 | bentejuy | hehe |
| 20:36.49 | Wizard | and that new xfce is really nice |
| 20:36.56 | puster1 | lol |
| 20:37.16 | Wizard | the oldest version of xfce that i remember was xfce3 |
| 20:37.18 | Theoden | Bah! |
| 20:37.25 | Wizard | written with gtk1 |
| 20:37.44 | Wizard | than, soon after xfce4 i switched to kde |
| 20:37.52 | Wizard | and now i see that was a big mistake |
| 20:40.06 | puster1 | I tried DreamLinux. They made the XFCE quite impressive. |
| 20:42.00 | Chi11y | yeh, if you like the mac interface |
| 20:43.23 | Chi11y | the guys at dreamlinux are good at interfaces so I really think they should get a unique design instead of trying to copy mac, if they wan't to do a mac-look-alike they should call the distro maclinux or something... |
| 20:44.41 | puster1 | lol |
| 20:45.41 | Wizard | hmmm |
| 20:51.05 | Chi11y | o.O |
| 20:51.07 | Chi11y | :S |
| 20:51.09 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 20:51.13 | wasynyt | good evening Chi11y |
| 20:51.14 | Chi11y | :P |
| 20:51.22 | Chi11y | good evening wasynyt |
| 20:51.27 | wasynyt | thanks |
| 20:51.30 | wasynyt | how are youdoing |
| 20:51.49 | Chi11y | fine thank you, and over in finland? |
| 20:52.00 | wasynyt | enjoying late evening |
| 20:52.01 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 20:52.17 | Chi11y | saturdays is the best ;) |
| 20:52.51 | Chi11y | so enjoy the saturday while you can :P |
| 20:53.05 | Chi11y | you don't have much time left of it ;P |
| 20:54.09 | wasynyt | nope.. none of it |
| 20:54.12 | wasynyt | 0004 |
| 20:54.19 | wasynyt | as least my comps clock |
| 20:54.20 | wasynyt | :S |
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| 20:56.26 | Chi11y | :S |
| 20:56.51 | Chi11y | 22.57 on my clock, and that's in sweden :P |
| 20:57.02 | wasynyt | good evening LinuxNIT |
| 20:57.13 | wasynyt | well we are one hour ahead of you swedes |
| 20:57.23 | Chi11y | yeah I know |
| 20:57.39 | Chi11y | but you should still be on saturday :P |
| 20:58.02 | wasynyt | for few minutes at least |
| 20:58.08 | Chi11y | :P |
| 20:58.12 | wasynyt | if your clock is more right than mine |
| 20:58.13 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:58.26 | wasynyt | good evening LinuxNIT-II |
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| 20:59.46 | LinuxNIT-II | evening |
| 21:00.04 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 21:00.11 | wasynyt | good evening LuckyMan |
| 21:00.18 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 21:00.21 | LinuxNIT-II | im doing well |
| 21:00.34 | wasynyt | good to hear |
| 21:00.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:00.44 | LinuxNIT-II | and yourself |
| 21:01.26 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
| 21:01.55 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 21:21.17 | NathanExplosion | movie time |
| 21:21.23 | Chi11y | :P |
| 21:21.56 | NathanExplosion | :D |
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| 21:34.55 | NicNac | hey guys :) |
| 21:36.03 | LinuxNIT-II | howdy NicNac |
| 21:38.34 | NicNac | brb |
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| 21:46.37 | wasynyt | and night |
| 21:46.40 | Chi11y | good evening |
| 21:46.44 | Chi11y | and night |
| 21:46.48 | Chi11y | (: |
| 21:46.51 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:46.58 | wasynyt | time for sleep |
| 21:47.07 | Chi11y | ok, cya |
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| 22:17.05 | Spiffy | Fork bombs are fun ... |
| 22:18.59 | anquietas | I accidentally read 'Fart'. |
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| 22:19.19 | GPLGeek | Users of both Windows XP and Windows Vista were writing to say that they could not validate their installations using WGA, and one user even said that his installation was invalidated by the service... The Microsoft WGA Forums are full of problem reports, and Microsoft WGA Program Manager Phil Liu has acknowledged that there is a problem, and that MS is investigating. |
| 22:19.36 | GPLGeek | LOL this was "fixed" but then a few hours later it happened again |
| 22:19.53 | GPLGeek | now all users of windows xp and vista seem to be losing genuine auth every 12 to 72 hours for seemingly no reason |
| 22:20.16 | GPLGeek | not everyone is effected, people are reccomended to turn off automatic updates and |
| 22:20.33 | GPLGeek | some people using cards such as the nvidia 8000 series are more effected than others |
| 22:21.58 | GPLGeek | there have been reports that whole businesses had lost auth on every one of their computers one of them being msnbc |
| 22:22.32 | Chi11y | GPLGeek: is that true? o.O |
| 22:22.41 | GPLGeek | gee i wonder if msnbc would report on it? lol i wonder where that ms came from in their name, oh wait they wont report on it |
| 22:22.48 | GPLGeek | it's true I have a xp box that was un authed |
| 22:22.56 | Chi11y | o.O |
| 22:23.27 | Chi11y | scary |
| 22:25.24 | GPLGeek | I use xp mainly to test for exploits =) but its a legal copy and its hell trying to keep it authed |
| 22:25.30 | GPLGeek | whenever a new update comes out im un-authed |
| 22:25.42 | GPLGeek | so I decided to just use hacked xp anyways |
| 22:25.45 | Chi11y | >.< |
| 22:25.46 | GPLGeek | because it never gives me a problem |
| 22:25.54 | Chi11y | do'h |
| 22:28.24 | Chi11y | I'm off to bed cya all |
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| 23:15.54 | NicNac | hey guys :P |
| 23:16.54 | Wizard | hello NicNac |
| 23:17.06 | NicNac | hows it goin Wizard? |
| 23:17.08 | keyra | Wizard: hi |
| 23:17.14 | Wizard | good |
| 23:17.18 | Wizard | i'm drunk |
| 23:17.39 | Wizard | last time (when i was going to sleep i was drunk) i installed xubuntu |
| 23:17.46 | Wizard | and it even works |
| 23:17.47 | NicNac | lol |
| 23:18.21 | Wizard | actually xubuntu is a piece of good work, imo |
| 23:19.01 | NicNac | xubuntu? isnt that using xfce? |
| 23:19.16 | Wizard | yes |
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| 23:19.31 | Wizard | i like xfce, and 4.4 is great |
| 23:20.07 | NathanExplosion | me too wizard |
| 23:20.48 | Wizard | :) |
| 23:21.28 | NathanExplosion | what's on ebay? |
| 23:21.46 | NicNac | dual amd cpu mobo |
| 23:21.51 | NicNac | it sings to me :P |
| 23:22.11 | GPLGeek | Wizard, ubuntu's come a long way. They have even started to kick even more code back to debian. |
| 23:22.30 | GPLGeek | and they are POPULAR and people feel they can get support where they can't get any in windows |
| 23:22.51 | Wizard | actually i don't care because nothing can beat freebsd |
| 23:23.02 | NathanExplosion | eh? |
| 23:23.07 | NicNac | freebsd? |
| 23:23.08 | GPLGeek | I know something that can |
| 23:23.17 | NicNac | whats the thing with it? |
| 23:23.19 | GPLGeek | Debian has the bsd kernel avaliable now |
| 23:23.22 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 23:23.26 | NicNac | I tried desktopbsd and it was rubbish |
| 23:23.31 | Wizard | and it sucks, i've already tested it |
| 23:23.33 | keyra | GPLGeek: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 23:23.46 | GPLGeek | debian is always superior with a wide package selection and multiple kernels |
| 23:24.05 | Wizard | nut under kfreebsd |
| 23:24.06 | GPLGeek | but it is not set up to be as easy for the end user as other distros |
| 23:24.08 | NicNac | I'm using debian amd64 right now :P |
| 23:24.18 | NicNac | GPLGeek, debian? |
| 23:24.26 | NicNac | it's as easy as ubuntu |
| 23:24.28 | Wizard | i used debian etch before i switched to xubuntu |
| 23:24.33 | NicNac | it's just text based |
| 23:24.43 | GPLGeek | lets get this streight |
| 23:24.49 | Wizard | but ubuntu has newer packages, even considering debian unstable |
| 23:24.51 | GPLGeek | PEOPLE ARE FUCKING SCARED OF TEXT |
| 23:24.59 | NicNac | text rocks though |
| 23:25.09 | GPLGeek | if its text/terminal they will SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FACE before they touch it. |
| 23:25.13 | NicNac | eyecandy style installers distract me :P |
| 23:25.20 | GPLGeek | Its like handing somone a fucking zombie, they scream and run away |
| 23:25.37 | NathanExplosion | huh? |
| 23:25.46 | NathanExplosion | i'm not sure what you're all babbling on about |
| 23:25.55 | NicNac | debian rocking |
| 23:25.56 | GPLGeek | debian's got a lot of gui stuff coming |
| 23:26.05 | GPLGeek | they have gui install now and its quite nice |
| 23:26.12 | GPLGeek | installgui param on boot cd |
| 23:26.20 | Wizard | ahh.. linux is still linux, though |
| 23:26.35 | GPLGeek | but then again you gotta type text to get there |
| 23:26.38 | Wizard | and it will never beat *bsd in flexibility,, |
| 23:26.59 | NathanExplosion | by flexibility, you mean the freedom to do...? |
| 23:27.07 | Wizard | so.. slackware, debian, fedora.. still the same gnu shit and childish linux kernel |
| 23:27.18 | GPLGeek | bsd uses gnu |
| 23:27.50 | NicNac | without linux though bsd would be in the shade a bit people generally go from linux to bsd |
| 23:27.59 | GPLGeek | and linux isnt childish, its got better memory handling. the main problem is them not wanting a UDA like driver interface in fact it used to be hell revision to revision to keep up drivers |
| 23:28.33 | GPLGeek | bsd is great, it's got it's pluses and its minuses |
| 23:29.10 | GPLGeek | but at the ROOT of everything there is gnu and a set of bsd apps as well and a few mit licence apps that everyone uses |
| 23:29.14 | NicNac | I've installed loads of linux distros but I've never managed to get bsd of any description to work |
| 23:30.01 | NathanExplosion | lol |
| 23:30.02 | GPLGeek | X.org/X11, GNU crap, Gnome, KDE, E17, OpenSSH, Apache, etc... its all there for the choosing |
| 23:30.19 | GPLGeek | gentoo with bsd kernel =p |
| 23:30.36 | GPLGeek | dragonflybsd isnt half bad |
| 23:30.58 | NicNac | pcbsd is crap it didnt detect my network card |
| 23:31.14 | GPLGeek | Ive had really really good luck with linux after 2.6 and so have the driver developers |
| 23:31.35 | GPLGeek | linux might not get to 3.0, they kinda progress slower and change less while offering many more features and the same old stability |
| 23:31.40 | NicNac | vector was a git to install but I got that working fine |
| 23:32.07 | GPLGeek | the whole point of a new version number is when there is a major change that needs to be noted and will break most drivers, that doesn't happen an ymore. |
| 23:32.53 | GPLGeek | Linux has great networking. Getting a new wireless stack and kernel-level connectivity tools soon. |
| 23:33.30 | GPLGeek | BSD and Sun's Unix actually recently forked and plan to fork again to become more linux like. |
| 23:33.35 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 23:33.55 | GPLGeek | It's just great to have competition, and great to be able to share between them |
| 23:40.44 | NicNac | well im off catch ya all laters |
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