| 00:04.54 | trog | be warned, i'm from eastern europe ;) |
| 00:05.15 | trog | people are breast-feeded alcohool here ;) |
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| 00:05.51 | Elive_user58 | hi |
| 00:05.54 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:05.56 | trog | bbl, got some shoppings to do :D |
| 00:05.59 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user58, hi |
| 00:05.59 | Elive_user58 | trog |
| 00:06.28 | Elive_user58 | can anyone help me.. |
| 00:06.39 | Elive_user58 | i put elive on dvd.. but on startup it does nothing |
| 00:06.55 | Elive_user58 | when i restart comp. normally it asks to boot from cd.. doensnt do anything here |
| 00:11.28 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
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| 00:16.01 | Jambon | hokay |
| 00:16.03 | Jambon | so |
| 00:16.07 | Jambon | here's the deal |
| 00:16.09 | trog | Elive_user58: have you tried putting it on cd ? :) |
| 00:16.39 | Elive_user58 | i have no empty cd's .. but i didnt make the dvd bootable? |
| 00:16.40 | Elive_user58 | does it have to be ? |
| 00:17.02 | trog | Elive_user58: as long as you write the .iso file as an image, it should be ok...on cd :) ...on dvd, i dont know ... |
| 00:17.09 | trog | brb...food... |
| 00:17.12 | Elive_user58 | aaah but |
| 00:17.19 | Jambon | mmmm.....fooood.... |
| 00:17.19 | Elive_user58 | do i have to put the .iso on cd |
| 00:17.24 | Elive_user58 | or what is IN the .isop ? |
| 00:17.58 | Jambon | generally any program should have an option to burn disc from image |
| 00:18.18 | Elive_user58 | hm. its rw :p so i got 1000 tries left :p |
| 00:18.33 | Jambon | fun fun |
| 00:18.57 | Jambon | i need an rw |
| 00:19.05 | Jambon | i have to many distros i'm not using |
| 00:19.07 | Jambon | too |
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| 00:21.26 | Elive_user58 | haha.. |
| 00:21.45 | Elive_user58 | im trying the new dream linux |
| 00:22.31 | Jambon | i guess I could be a unused-linux-distro-cd ninja |
| 00:24.03 | Jambon | i could be the arch enemy of the AOL-cd samuri |
| 00:24.08 | Jambon | or something |
| 00:24.35 | GPLGeek | Novell could be banned from selling Linux |
| 00:25.05 | GPLGeek | more in 2 weeks |
| 00:25.11 | Jambon | fun fun |
| 00:25.13 | GPLGeek | I just got that in my memoserv |
| 00:25.18 | Jambon | M$ doing? |
| 00:25.52 | GPLGeek | patent problems, and gpl problems |
| 00:26.04 | Jambon | even more fun |
| 00:26.11 | GPLGeek | novel does not own the pattents it was dealing with at the time of the agreements |
| 00:26.18 | GPLGeek | and its not one agreement. there are hundreds |
| 00:26.28 | GPLGeek | to try to confuse the public |
| 00:26.44 | GPLGeek | some are also concealed agreements, which are not allowed because of a monopoly ruling |
| 00:27.28 | GPLGeek | that does not mean the end of novel |
| 00:27.51 | GPLGeek | it may mean that they stop selling the software and start giving it away, and selling support |
| 00:28.22 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, ping |
| 00:29.20 | Jambon | GPLGeek: so what you're saying is that the agreement with M$ has already begun to haunt them? |
| 00:29.30 | GPLGeek | yes |
| 00:29.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:29.37 | Jambon | who would have though |
| 00:29.41 | Jambon | thought |
| 00:29.42 | GPLGeek | also they are going to have to forfeit some code they were using that was dual licenced |
| 00:29.53 | Jambon | suprise suprise |
| 00:30.00 | GPLGeek | microsoft has started to CLAIM THEY OWN parts of linux |
| 00:30.16 | Jambon | did they *really* think M$ was being nice? |
| 00:30.38 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, pong |
| 00:30.39 | Jambon | I mean either someone in Novell is getting paid off big time or they're just retarded |
| 00:30.49 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, pong |
| 00:30.52 | LinuxNIT | dude |
| 00:30.57 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:31.00 | LinuxNIT | calm down |
| 00:31.02 | PrinceAMD | is u'r sound up? |
| 00:31.04 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:31.05 | Jambon | pang |
| 00:31.05 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 00:31.10 | Jambon | ping |
| 00:31.12 | GPLGeek | they quote "may own components of qt and gtk" |
| 00:31.12 | PrinceAMD | damn it |
| 00:31.15 | Jambon | pung |
| 00:31.18 | GPLGeek | in a recent aquisition |
| 00:31.19 | LinuxNIT | any way i was thinking... :D |
| 00:31.32 | LinuxNIT | you seem to be getting into the edj coding quite a bit |
| 00:31.47 | LinuxNIT | so i have an idea if your interested |
| 00:32.15 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 00:32.20 | PrinceAMD | what's the idea |
| 00:32.27 | LinuxNIT | look at the edj code from the engage program theme that makes the icons "bounce" on click and integrate it into ibar theme ;) |
| 00:32.45 | GPLGeek | how about animated penguin, his left wing is a system menu, the right wing is a applications menu and his feet is a pager |
| 00:32.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:33.07 | Jambon | or..wait. get ths..... |
| 00:33.10 | Jambon | sharks..... |
| 00:33.16 | LinuxNIT | shit i gotta go eat dinner |
| 00:33.16 | Jambon | with frickin' laser.... |
| 00:33.19 | LinuxNIT | ill be back later |
| 00:35.57 | Jambon | so the agreement with M$ was to share patents? |
| 00:38.51 | GPLGeek | Jambon, its very complicated |
| 00:39.06 | GPLGeek | it was mostly that ms will not sue novell over pattents, but would sue other linuxes |
| 00:39.07 | Jambon | silly lawyers |
| 00:39.17 | GPLGeek | and novell did not own those patents |
| 00:39.24 | GPLGeek | yet they were acting like they did |
| 00:39.36 | Jambon | dumb dumbs |
| 00:45.31 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, ok linux nit not a bad idea |
| 00:45.49 | PrinceAMD | i see u want it to look like OS X i dont blame yah |
| 00:45.57 | PrinceAMD | just consider it done :) |
| 00:49.17 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, it's a fricking great idea |
| 00:49.24 | PrinceAMD | i think it just might work |
| 00:49.34 | PrinceAMD | brb] |
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| 01:39.15 | GPLGeek | stop trying to clone osx, just buy a mac |
| 01:39.22 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 01:39.30 | LinuxNIT | hand me the money ;) |
| 01:39.44 | GPLGeek | they are set to drop their prices soon |
| 01:39.47 | LinuxNIT | and ill do it |
| 01:39.59 | LinuxNIT | my last computer cost me 345.... |
| 01:40.07 | GPLGeek | and make a gamer model with seperate monitor/box |
| 01:40.32 | GPLGeek | that model actually has a thing where you can set a ipod or iphone on it |
| 01:40.32 | GPLGeek | and it mounts it |
| 01:41.53 | GPLGeek | I worked all day today and my feet dont hurt at the end of the day |
| 01:42.00 | GPLGeek | these inserts work great |
| 01:42.06 | GPLGeek | they help my knee somehow too |
| 01:42.40 | GPLGeek | I think it was because my tendon was too stretched and my feet were mkaing me walk not even |
| 01:43.22 | LinuxNIT | inserts can do a lot of things for youre body... its kind of wierd |
| 01:43.51 | LinuxNIT | make some people walk right which results in their back not hurting. |
| 01:45.05 | GPLGeek | I just got an email asking me to make a livecd for him.. I actually did it and sent it off to him. |
| 01:45.41 | GPLGeek | he wanted a debian etch standard with no packages outside of "main" |
| 01:46.07 | GPLGeek | come to think of it my whole body feels better |
| 01:46.21 | GPLGeek | you know having one thing hurt can mess up your whole system |
| 01:46.38 | LinuxNIT | who is he? |
| 01:46.45 | GPLGeek | just some guy |
| 01:46.50 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:46.54 | GPLGeek | or, im assuming its a guy |
| 01:47.06 | LinuxNIT | most likely |
| 01:47.12 | GPLGeek | I've seen girls called tony |
| 01:47.36 | GPLGeek | but generally most of the Tony names are guy related |
| 01:55.28 | GPLGeek | I'm about to remaster elive, any requests? |
| 02:06.14 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, did u see the new terminal icon |
| 02:06.33 | LinuxNIT | did you make one? |
| 02:06.42 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 02:06.44 | LinuxNIT | i used the onse that have been on get-e for a while |
| 02:06.48 | LinuxNIT | no i havent used yours |
| 02:07.13 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=terminal-enlightenment.edj |
| 02:07.21 | PrinceAMD | try that |
| 02:08.36 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:08.36 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 02:08.56 | PrinceAMD | did u try the xmms? |
| 02:09.02 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 02:09.11 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 02:10.11 | PrinceAMD | all that is left is mplayer and gimp needs some fixing up |
| 02:15.07 | GPLGeek | yay for windows programming... |
| 02:15.23 | GPLGeek | I need to track down a memory leak in explorer.exe for reactos |
| 02:15.30 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 02:15.45 | GPLGeek | reactos is pretty sweet |
| 02:15.50 | PrinceAMD | delete explorer.exe use aston.exe a better shell |
| 02:16.08 | GPLGeek | um... actually |
| 02:16.14 | GPLGeek | reactos explorer pwns |
| 02:16.41 | GPLGeek | great quicklaunch handling, light weight, pager that works without lag or overruns, what else |
| 02:16.45 | GPLGeek | fast menus |
| 02:17.56 | LinuxNIT | reactos boots so freaking fast its incredible |
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| 02:34.43 | GPLGeek | oh I feel damn good |
| 02:34.52 | GPLGeek | I've already identified and bugreported a memleak |
| 02:34.54 | GPLGeek | and a crash bug |
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| 02:46.57 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, is reactos linux? |
| 02:47.00 | PrinceAMD | or windows ? |
| 02:47.05 | PrinceAMD | win32? |
| 02:47.06 | LinuxNIT | um... neither |
| 02:47.13 | PrinceAMD | WHAT IS IT? |
| 02:48.28 | LinuxNIT | a reaction to windows crap |
| 02:48.31 | LinuxNIT | i dont know exactly |
| 02:48.47 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, is the one to answer that... or maybe their website |
| 02:49.24 | trog | its a project which aims to reproduct the win32 api |
| 02:49.42 | GPLGeek | reactos is windows |
| 02:49.48 | GPLGeek | its a gpl clean room version |
| 02:50.12 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 02:50.22 | PrinceAMD | free? |
| 02:50.23 | GPLGeek | they work with wine a bit, on some of the functions, as they both aim to reproduce win32 |
| 02:50.36 | GPLGeek | but reactos has a working nt kernel and shell and everything, GPL |
| 02:50.53 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 02:50.58 | GPLGeek | it's a windows you dont have to feel bad about running. it's actually pretty cool |
| 02:51.02 | PrinceAMD | support dx9? |
| 02:51.06 | GPLGeek | it's been a hobby of mine since before elive |
| 02:51.13 | GPLGeek | no, not really |
| 02:51.30 | GPLGeek | we can run opengl games, like quake and other stuff |
| 02:51.45 | GPLGeek | dont expect the current version to be a gaming system |
| 02:52.02 | GPLGeek | it does run a lot of cool stuff though |
| 02:52.16 | GPLGeek | dosbox, ftp, emulators, etc |
| 02:52.25 | GPLGeek | of course firefox. |
| 02:52.27 | PrinceAMD | so basically is trash |
| 02:52.41 | GPLGeek | the thing is they dont exactly recreate the nt kernel, they make it better |
| 02:52.52 | GPLGeek | like security will be linux-like |
| 02:52.57 | GPLGeek | not trash |
| 02:53.21 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 02:53.31 | PrinceAMD | linux+windows = blows! |
| 02:54.06 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 02:54.19 | PrinceAMD | i wonder if cedega brings out a distro what will happen |
| 02:54.30 | PrinceAMD | that might be the end of gaming on windows |
| 02:54.49 | GPLGeek | well |
| 02:54.58 | GPLGeek | right now cedega is showing interest |
| 02:55.18 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, i'm downloading reactos for qemu just to test |
| 02:55.35 | GPLGeek | they want a livecd that can install, use xgl/compiz, etc. |
| 02:56.10 | GPLGeek | I think elive would be a good condidate if etch went stable, and we cleaned it up quite a bit |
| 02:56.21 | GPLGeek | mainly our boot process. |
| 02:56.40 | GPLGeek | they would never use elive though |
| 02:56.47 | GPLGeek | we dont meet licencing conditions |
| 02:57.17 | GPLGeek | in fact we are in violation of many rules. but this is more of a personal os than professional. |
| 02:57.42 | GPLGeek | we can get away with it as long as we are not commercial really |
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| 03:23.27 | Elive_user63 | hola! alguien podria guiarme ..para montar una radio online,,,uso Elive DR!7...no tengo mucha experiencia en linux...gracias.. |
| 03:23.33 | Elive_user63 | ___ |
| 03:28.52 | Elive_user63 | hola alguno ..por ahi? |
| 03:30.43 | Elive_user63 | que que |
| 03:31.53 | Elive_user63 | entienda de montar una radio en linux? |
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| 03:37.53 | Elive_user63 | si ..me equivoque de lugar ,,,por la pregunta ,,,disculpas...no estoy muy ducho aun,,, |
| 03:46.35 | GPLGeek | Hola Elive_user63 |
| 03:46.43 | GPLGeek | hablo un poco espanol. |
| 03:46.51 | Elive_user63 | hola...que tal? |
| 03:47.03 | Elive_user63 | barbaro... |
| 03:47.06 | GPLGeek | muy bien y tu |
| 03:48.02 | Elive_user63 | bien..entrando de a poco en este mundo de linux..soy e Argentina...y estoy viviendo hace un ano y algunos meses en Israel.. |
| 03:48.03 | GPLGeek | radio como shoutcast? |
| 03:49.08 | Elive_user63 | algo asi te cuento...uso Elive DR17 pero no me deja instalar shuotcast..con apt-get..asi que me parece que tengo que usar el icecast.. |
| 03:49.45 | Elive_user63 | pero no puedo resolver la configuracion.. |
| 03:50.12 | GPLGeek | para escuchar shoutcast? |
| 03:50.47 | GPLGeek | o para servir |
| 03:51.03 | Elive_user63 | no para emitir...musica y comentarios..algo para la comunidad latina de Katzrin que es donde vivo |
| 03:51.14 | Elive_user63 | para servir..exacto... |
| 03:53.41 | GPLGeek | No se.... un minuto... |
| 03:53.41 | Elive_user63 | gracias..... |
| 03:57.07 | GPLGeek | El que sabría no está aqui. =( Tienes un /nick (por memoserv) o E-mail ? |
| 03:58.01 | Elive_user63 | te dejo mi mail....imagina1997@yahoo.com.ar |
| 03:58.22 | Elive_user63 | todavia no tengo nick aqui,estoy tratando de logearme... |
| 04:00.20 | GPLGeek | Elive es 'Debian Etch'. |
| 04:00.20 | GPLGeek | http://www.debian.org/index.es.html puede ayudar. |
| 04:00.56 | Elive_user63 | estoy te agradezco..muchisimo que me hayas atendido y ayudado.... |
| 04:01.20 | GPLGeek | de nada |
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| 04:44.14 | GPLGeek | I destroyed the elive remaster! |
| 04:44.15 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 04:44.21 | GPLGeek | time to start over |
| 04:44.24 | LinuxNIT | good job |
| 04:44.26 | GPLGeek | copied the wrong commands |
| 04:44.56 | GPLGeek | I had tables set up with apps I was running. chrooted, everything was going ok but then |
| 04:45.06 | GPLGeek | miscopy lol |
| 04:45.21 | GPLGeek | It doesnt matter i'm learning |
| 04:45.58 | GPLGeek | I plan to have a gaming elive without any office programs at all. nothing but games. and firefox |
| 04:46.19 | GPLGeek | load NES, Sega, etc emulators on it |
| 04:46.23 | GPLGeek | maybe make a livedvd |
| 04:49.25 | Cohiba021 | Hi! someone are, know if it's possible to have enlightenment in french ? |
| 04:50.15 | GPLGeek | I'm pretty sure we have multi-lingual E17 |
| 04:50.20 | GPLGeek | check elpanel |
| 04:50.21 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 04:50.28 | GPLGeek | also you can make the console french at boot |
| 04:51.31 | GPLGeek | watch it though, dont use any special charactors in a root password, if you do it in a user password and something goes wrong then you can always login root, passwd username pass to reset or password username -n to remove the password entierly |
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| 05:53.05 | Leprehaun | rox :) amd :) |
| 05:53.41 | PrinceAMD | hey |
| 05:53.41 | PrinceAMD | sup |
| 05:53.55 | PrinceAMD | roxville_ |
| 05:54.02 | PrinceAMD | u alive there? |
| 05:54.08 | Leprehaun | not much :) yourself ? |
| 05:54.21 | PrinceAMD | installin FreeBSD |
| 05:54.25 | roxville_ | alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:54.43 | roxville_ | hi Leprehaun :) |
| 05:55.08 | Leprehaun | looked at that but would not install on lappy graphics chipset isnt supported :S |
| 05:55.30 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 05:55.33 | roxville_ | i like pc-bsd... very easy to install |
| 05:55.41 | PrinceAMD | i dont know if my shit is supported |
| 05:56.13 | Leprehaun | well dont go looking for help .... you wont get it apart from "read the manual" |
| 05:57.03 | roxville_ | yeah... they are a bit elitistic |
| 05:57.06 | Leprehaun | not very obliging or willing to try and help |
| 05:57.37 | Leprehaun | elitistic ... in my book just plan ignorant |
| 05:58.02 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 05:58.40 | Leprehaun | what use is read teh manual if your 1 not sure what your doing 2 ask nicley for advice 3 arnt rude |
| 05:59.00 | Elive_user9 | hello all |
| 05:59.04 | Elive_user9 | &nick darknase |
| 05:59.09 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user9 hi |
| 05:59.12 | roxville | hello Elive_user |
| 05:59.22 | PrinceAMD | &nick darknase /nick darknase |
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| 05:59.26 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 05:59.31 | PrinceAMD | Cohiba021_ WB |
| 06:00.12 | darknase | aye ... but I am usualy a qwertz user |
| 06:00.24 | darknase | have to find the one or other key first |
| 06:01.10 | PrinceAMD | k |
| 06:01.20 | PrinceAMD | darknase, how can we help you? |
| 06:02.41 | darknase | hmmm, well atm I am fine .. just fooling around with elive. opening apps, drag and dropping them |
| 06:04.28 | darknase | don't know what to take enlightenment or xgl for my final transfer to linux... only done servers thouroughly up till now ... |
| 06:04.54 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 06:05.02 | PrinceAMD | xgl can be slow |
| 06:05.05 | PrinceAMD | i hear |
| 06:05.08 | darknase | commandline rulez :) |
| 06:05.14 | PrinceAMD | e17 is pretty fast |
| 06:05.19 | darknase | aye it is |
| 06:05.23 | PrinceAMD | and have alot of icandy |
| 06:06.07 | darknase | well ... the candy isn't the thing for me ... fast and efficent |
| 06:06.19 | darknase | like PMshell |
| 06:06.25 | darknase | WPS |
| 06:06.27 | GPLGeek | Try dragonfly bsd |
| 06:08.18 | darknase | how about dual monitor usage_ |
| 06:08.20 | darknase | ? |
| 06:09.10 | roxville | i know that elive's dev had 3 monitors working at the same time |
| 06:09.17 | roxville | until one of them broke |
| 06:09.24 | darknase | hehe |
| 06:09.39 | roxville | unfortunately, tthe elive site is dow atm |
| 06:09.48 | roxville | down |
| 06:10.11 | roxville | will be back up... hopefully by the end of next week |
| 06:10.24 | roxville | or most likely |
| 06:11.02 | roxville | PrinceAMD, pixel is pretty cool! |
| 06:11.38 | roxville | i didn't read all that much about it... but it's so cross platform, that it should be java... |
| 06:12.00 | roxville | but it doesn't really look or feel like java |
| 06:12.03 | roxville | weird |
| 06:12.51 | GPLGeek | I had 4 monitors |
| 06:12.54 | GPLGeek | but |
| 06:13.13 | GPLGeek | then I just realized why not buy a 22" LCD and use virtual desktops |
| 06:15.05 | GPLGeek | multiple monitor info can be found by your graphic card's documentation |
| 06:15.17 | GPLGeek | best on nvidia or matrox |
| 06:17.55 | darknase | well because I like to play once in a while that would be nv |
| 06:18.34 | GPLGeek | good the nvidia forums/docs/driver will tell ya |
| 06:19.32 | darknase | afaik I need twinview |
| 06:19.57 | roxville | it's basically the same as in ubuntu, check their forums, they are good |
| 06:20.15 | PrinceAMD | roxville, yes i know |
| 06:20.36 | roxville | since the elive site is down |
| 06:21.01 | darknase | as you mention it ... 6.10 Ubuntu + e17? bad? good? |
| 06:21.15 | roxville | i have no idea |
| 06:21.18 | GPLGeek | if you do post something on elivedev.org you will get an answer at some point |
| 06:21.22 | GPLGeek | or at least a link where to go |
| 06:21.37 | darknase | I'm not sure zet if to use debian or ubuntu |
| 06:21.40 | GPLGeek | darknase, ubuntu people keep begging for our help |
| 06:21.42 | darknase | yet |
| 06:21.43 | GPLGeek | we dont help them |
| 06:21.44 | roxville | i was trying to get e16 and e17 working on ubuntu when i found elive |
| 06:21.52 | roxville | didn't really have to look back |
| 06:21.54 | GPLGeek | debian etch will be better than ubuntu IMO |
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| 06:23.22 | darknase | well still working with sarge on me servers |
| 06:23.44 | GPLGeek | etch is almost to the "stable" mode but |
| 06:23.55 | GPLGeek | most people use etch with no problems even on servers |
| 06:24.20 | darknase | but after 8 aggonizing years as winsuck admin I just can't stand it anymore |
| 06:24.41 | GPLGeek | I was a windows admin for 2 years |
| 06:24.45 | GPLGeek | large network |
| 06:25.00 | darknase | little firm ... did the desktop there |
| 06:25.03 | GPLGeek | when all 4 servers went down my linux box took over all 4's tasks |
| 06:25.08 | darknase | about 50 clients |
| 06:25.14 | GPLGeek | and did it with less hardware |
| 06:25.28 | GPLGeek | oh, we had like 30 + clients a room |
| 06:25.32 | GPLGeek | multiple rooms |
| 06:25.45 | GPLGeek | at least 1 client a room, and each wing had 1-3 computer lab rooms |
| 06:25.56 | roxville | tonight i talked about linux with an ex cia guy that comes to the bar where i play |
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| 06:26.17 | roxville | he was very interested in elive... after i told him about it |
| 06:26.23 | GPLGeek | nice |
| 06:26.32 | darknase | well, I worked for a web and software developer firm |
| 06:26.33 | roxville | he thought that most linux is still console |
| 06:26.58 | darknase | there is no 'ex cia' |
| 06:27.04 | roxville | hehe |
| 06:27.04 | darknase | :) |
| 06:27.10 | GPLGeek | mostly thats true |
| 06:27.38 | roxville | ok, he's retired |
| 06:27.44 | roxville | how's that? |
| 06:27.47 | GPLGeek | you keep getting updates, and you keep your security clearance level, and restrictions on you because of that |
| 06:28.08 | darknase | welll, how did the director of syriana saz: 'it would be the best cover' |
| 06:29.27 | GPLGeek | I know how things work |
| 06:29.29 | GPLGeek | for the most part |
| 06:29.35 | roxville | "just because you ain't paranoid, don't mean they ain't out to get ya" |
| 06:29.41 | roxville | is one of my fav quotes |
| 06:29.56 | GPLGeek | the most funny thing is the power of the govt is people thinking the govt is more powerful than they are |
| 06:29.57 | GPLGeek | they fear it |
| 06:33.03 | darknase | sry, but what mount point should my firewire device have? |
| 06:33.19 | roxville | sda something |
| 06:33.38 | roxville | or sdb maybe...if you have scsi HD |
| 06:33.39 | darknase | isn't that sata? |
| 06:34.07 | roxville | darknase, my firewire drive shows up as sda1 most of the time |
| 06:34.13 | darknase | k |
| 06:34.32 | roxville | :) |
| 06:34.43 | LinuxNIT | fdisk -l will show all available partitions |
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| 06:37.46 | darknase | ./media/dvdrecorder |
| 06:38.07 | darknase | because it's just what it says it is |
| 06:39.14 | GPLGeek | my boss right now is yelling at his suppliers asking for linux |
| 06:39.35 | GPLGeek | because nt kernel keeps crashing. |
| 06:40.00 | GPLGeek | and the stupid hardware, old old old dell machines |
| 06:40.14 | GPLGeek | he wants mini itx systems with debian |
| 06:40.33 | darknase | well that's better than the boss that yells because he has a task in the taskmanager that needs 99% |
| 06:40.53 | darknase | and is calles 'Idle process" |
| 06:40.57 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 06:41.16 | GPLGeek | I like linux because I can send off ANY job to another machine if I need |
| 06:41.20 | GPLGeek | seriously easy |
| 06:41.29 | GPLGeek | boot, click, done |
| 06:50.57 | darknase | well the ps hp6p driver doesn't seem to work ... sad but nothing that breaks legs |
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| 07:01.07 | darknase | sry, but how except of eterm kill do I kill a task? |
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| 07:19.38 | roxville | darknase, right-click on a window...top border |
| 07:20.05 | darknase | hmmm |
| 07:20.06 | roxville | scroll down to... "kill" |
| 07:20.17 | darknase | too easy for me :) |
| 07:20.24 | roxville | LOL |
| 07:21.02 | darknase | I'm used too ALT-CTRL-DEL |
| 07:21.36 | roxville | i was used to ctrl+w |
| 07:21.37 | darknase | man, this embaressing |
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| 07:21.43 | roxville | hehe |
| 07:21.54 | roxville | e17 uses right-click quite a bit |
| 07:22.17 | roxville | good night ppl :) |
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| 07:22.38 | Elive_user9 | shite |
| 07:22.47 | roxville | lol |
| 07:22.55 | roxville | i'm going to bed |
| 07:22.59 | darknase | nn |
| 07:22.59 | roxville | good luck :) |
| 07:23.03 | darknase | thx |
| 07:23.07 | darknase | >: |
| 07:23.11 | darknase | >) |
| 07:23.21 | roxville | <roxville> e17 uses right-click quite a bit |
| 07:24.18 | darknase | I see. Thnak you for the help so far :) |
| 07:25.09 | roxville | np, glad to help :) |
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| 07:32.44 | GPLGeek | Good night everyone |
| 07:32.56 | GPLGeek | I got a lot done today (just nothing elive) hehe... |
| 07:33.24 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking we should include ROS into elive (qemu menu entry) |
| 07:33.29 | GPLGeek | its only like 11mb |
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| 07:45.37 | darknase | well see zou all later |
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| 09:41.41 | unspoken000 | Hi all, does any know if the elive website is down? |
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| 11:34.23 | Elive_user63 | alguien que pueda guiarme para montar una radio..no tengo demasiada experiencia en linux....uso Elive DR17,,,desde ya gracias ,,por cualquier ayuda... |
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| 12:18.39 | Elive_user30 | hi! I selected "night"(-theme or something) on install, how do I get back to the "day"(-theme) |
| 12:18.45 | Elive_user30 | ? =) |
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| 12:26.26 | Elive_user30 | hi, im still trying to get back to the "day"-theme instead of the "nicht"-theme, anyone any ideas??? |
| 12:26.52 | Elive_user30 | nicht = night |
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| 12:35.21 | Elive_user30 | hi, im still trying to get back to the "day"-theme instead of the "night"-theme, anyone any ideas??? |
| 12:35.34 | Elive_user63 | the only way ..y know...is ..run cd Elive...just like an installation...ok! |
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| 12:37.04 | Elive_user63 | and when the installation request you..what is founded another sistem.."old".. |
| 12:37.32 | Elive_user30 | ok |
| 12:37.36 | Elive_user63 | you must choice acept...and |
| 12:38.45 | Elive_user63 | thethem you can choice the light theme... |
| 12:39.41 | Elive_user30 | ok, thanks, ill try |
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| 12:41.22 | Elive_user63 | in this way..you will not loose your documents... |
| 12:42.50 | Elive_user30 | ok, thanks :) |
| 12:43.11 | Elive_user11 | Hello... I come here about some problems on getting addons as inthunderbird, but with Icedove... or finding eventually the way to get back to Thunderbird, my addons aren't compatible... any idea ? |
| 12:43.51 | Elive_user11 | I am a newbie ;-) |
| 12:46.10 | Elive_user11 | no help ???? |
| 12:48.27 | Elive_user11 | 04 is there nobody to help here ? |
| 12:49.29 | Elive_user11 | I have also question about Engage module setting on at boot... |
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| 12:50.50 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Howdy |
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| 12:54.19 | Elive_user11 | Sinplomo ? |
| 12:54.25 | Elive_user11 | cool, tu es francais |
| 12:55.03 | Elive_user11 | oh maybe not so french... lol... ;-) I though |
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| 13:00.05 | bentejuy | Elive_user11, sinplomo is a citizen of the world :) |
| 13:03.54 | Elive_user11 | so we all are... so great ;-) |
| 13:04.08 | Elive_user11 | any idea about my problems ? |
| 13:05.33 | Elive_user11 | rookmoot: salut Stephane... tu t'y connais un peu, je debute... j'ai quelques soucis avec Icedove |
| 13:08.00 | rookmoot | Elive_user11, t'es qui ? |
| 13:08.48 | Elive_user11 | un nouvel utilisateur de Elive... j'ai juste vu ton rpofil qui s'affichait donc j'ai vu que tu t'appelais Stephane, simplement ;-) |
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| 13:15.07 | Zarephath | With the wiki gone I have no instructions on how to setup elive to be able and do a dist-upgrade using the latest cvs version..anyone have a link that will explain this? |
| 13:15.12 | Elive_user63 | v alguien que conozca ..como armar una radio online..uso Elive Dr17 |
| 13:15.55 | mutilus | Zarephath, does this help: http://elivedev.org/?q=node/9 |
| 13:17.28 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: Usar el boton derecha, selectar Audio, despues selectar Radio Stations o selectar XMMS para discos de musica |
| 13:17.41 | Zarephath | mutilus: Thanks |
| 13:18.09 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: Lo siento...no escribo bien el espanol.. |
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| 13:18.55 | Elive_user63 | esta perfecto...gracias..con eso yo puedo trans mitir? |
| 13:19.42 | mutilus | Elive_user11, what problems are you having with icedove? |
| 13:19.44 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: Ai no...solamente recibir |
| 13:20.33 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: Que es que vd quiere que hacer? |
| 13:20.46 | Elive_user11 | no more problem, thanks you... I was installing from the web and that was not the good way to do |
| 13:21.17 | Elive_user63 | eso lo sabia ..yo estoy trata ndo de montar una radio ..que es otra cosa.. |
| 13:21.37 | Elive_user63 | y como soy nuevo..en linux... |
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| 13:23.01 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: no te preocupes...hay gente acqui que habla mejor... |
| 13:23.32 | Elive_user63 | te entiendo bien...no debes preocuparte...por eso.. |
| 13:24.23 | Zarephath | bueno...entonces tu debes cambiar el nombre que estas usando ya... |
| 13:24.55 | Elive_user63 | no entiendo....como lo hago? |
| 13:25.18 | Zarephath | hacer este |
| 13:26.07 | Zarephath | Hello |
| 13:26.10 | Zarephath | wow |
| 13:26.36 | Zarephath | how do I escape a command to explain to him how to change his nick? |
| 13:27.58 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: se usa /nick y despues el nombre que quiere usar |
| 13:28.35 | Elive_user11 | at this point, I am trying to put Engage at Boot, but I begin in Linux experience... I have found this command : enlightenment_remote -module-load engage |
| 13:29.02 | Elive_user11 | but I do not know what to do with, and everelse where to... any idea ? |
| 13:31.03 | Elive_user63 | where y do this? |
| 13:32.15 | Zarephath | Elive_user63: acqui donde estoy respondiendo |
| 13:33.29 | Zarephath | mutilus: Quick question I saw trog stating that the script that caused entrance to be buggy is fixed? |
| 13:33.47 | Elive_user63 | ok! ahi voy.. |
| 13:33.50 | Zarephath | Ok not buggy..but log you out every few seconds |
| 13:33.50 | Elive_user11 | it could maybe a thing like "/msg nickserv help" that can help you knowing about it |
| 13:34.26 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyoen |
| 13:34.31 | wasynyt | *onr |
| 13:34.34 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:34.36 | wasynyt | *one |
| 13:34.38 | Zarephath | wasynyt: Hey...good morning here...:-) |
| 13:36.01 | Zarephath | Elive_user63 |
| 13:36.08 | wasynyt | huh |
| 13:36.57 | jrg2007 | Zarephath..is all right in this way? |
| 13:37.03 | wasynyt | he left |
| 13:38.49 | Elive_user11 | no idea bout how to get the module Engage onduty at each boot ? |
| 13:38.59 | wasynyt | hmm |
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| 14:03.17 | Zarephath | Ok I got upgraded to the latest cvs version of e17...yay |
| 14:12.14 | Zarephath | So I am somewhat disoriented with the newere menus and all..I don't see an option for the terminal that I had in the original elive rel2 install...how do I add it? |
| 14:12.49 | Zarephath | *newer* |
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| 14:28.34 | roxville | PrinceAMD_1, maybe we could try this one to begin with? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23433923/ |
| 14:30.20 | PrinceAMD | hi roxville |
| 14:31.20 | PrinceAMD | u like that? |
| 14:33.01 | PrinceAMD_1 | Linux Elive 2.6.20-rc3 #0 PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 04:37:07 ICT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:33.15 | PrinceAMD | Linux Elive-5.5 2.6.20-rc7 #1 SMP Sat Feb 3 04:19:39 GYT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:42.36 | roxville | PrinceAMD, sorry, someone knocked on the door |
| 14:42.48 | roxville | like...it's an animation... |
| 14:43.11 | roxville | and it's small... |
| 14:43.44 | roxville | if you want, try to just put in an edj an see what happens |
| 14:44.22 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 14:45.24 | roxville | did you see the new monitor i used for terminal? |
| 14:45.41 | roxville | it's about a shiny as the other one |
| 14:45.46 | jrg2007 | alguien que pueda ayudarme a montar una radio online..o darme datos de tutoriales o guias..para poder hacerlo...soy nuevo en linux...uso Elive DR17 |
| 14:45.47 | roxville | about as |
| 14:46.14 | roxville | kender, maybe you could take that one? :D |
| 14:46.31 | kender | hehe |
| 14:46.40 | PrinceAMD | roxville, yes |
| 14:46.40 | kender | jrg2007, shoutcast |
| 14:48.26 | roxville | thank you :) |
| 14:49.59 | PrinceAMD | i dont like the terminall |
| 14:50.22 | roxville | ok, sorry :/ |
| 14:51.22 | PrinceAMD | dont need to be |
| 14:51.30 | PrinceAMD | if u like it use it :) |
| 14:51.47 | PrinceAMD | it's also harder to see the texts |
| 14:52.07 | roxville | yes |
| 14:56.27 | Zarephath | roxville: How did the gig go last night? Lot of people? |
| 14:56.46 | Zarephath | Hey PrinceAMD: |
| 14:57.16 | roxville | Zarephath, lol, no... slowest night in history of mankind :D |
| 14:57.30 | roxville | it was scary in downtown charleston last night... |
| 14:57.49 | roxville | tumbleweeds, almost |
| 14:58.01 | Zarephath | Bummer..my father and I used to play country music back in my home state of Phoenix, AZ...I have seen those days myself.. |
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| 14:58.53 | Madtast | Hey Guys |
| 14:59.04 | roxville | Zarephath, oh, cool! |
| 14:59.13 | PrinceAMD | Zarephath, hey |
| 15:00.00 | Madtast | How Do I Add Games To The Menu DIR |
| 15:00.24 | Zarephath | jrg2007: Momento..tu quieres que broadcast? |
| 15:00.41 | Madtast | Or How Do I Add An ACTUAL Folder To The Menu? |
| 15:01.03 | Madtast | I Want To Add The /usr/games Folder To The Menu SO IT JUST DISPLAYS ITS CONTENTS |
| 15:01.20 | Zarephath | roxville, PrinceAMD : What was the name of the term in the original elive? xvrxt? |
| 15:01.40 | Zarephath | Madtast: Why are you yelling? |
| 15:01.53 | Madtast | Im Not |
| 15:01.57 | Madtast | Im Empathsizing |
| 15:02.19 | Zarephath | Madtast: When you type in caps in a chat you are it is the equivalent of yelling in voice speech |
| 15:02.29 | Madtast | Sorry |
| 15:02.35 | Zarephath | Madtast: NP |
| 15:02.35 | Madtast | I Did Not Have Time To Quote It |
| 15:02.48 | Madtast | Im At A Computer Store ... |
| 15:03.05 | roxville | Zarephath, urxvt, or just rxvt |
| 15:03.13 | Zarephath | Madtast: But to answer your question I am not sure you are able to do what you want... |
| 15:03.31 | Madtast | Is There A Way To Add My Own Shortcuts To The Menu? |
| 15:03.37 | Madtast | not just the ones that are there? |
| 15:03.54 | roxville | i'm not sure... for apps you first need to make an icon...and eap |
| 15:03.59 | roxville | apt, make-eap |
| 15:04.09 | apt | well, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 15:04.09 | Zarephath | roxville: Have you upgraded to the latest cvs version? It seems to work great.. |
| 15:04.22 | roxville | Madtast, read the link that apt posted |
| 15:04.29 | Madtast | Ok Cool |
| 15:04.32 | Madtast | Thanks Guys |
| 15:04.47 | Madtast | I Will Be On For A Little To Answer Others Question As Well |
| 15:04.59 | roxville | Zarephath, no... i try to wait til thanatermesis comes back and updates... i'm not you average cvs-joe :) |
| 15:05.07 | roxville | in other words...it scares me! |
| 15:05.09 | roxville | :D |
| 15:06.04 | Zarephath | roxville: It is simple..just add tests to the vobcopy line in sources.list, apt-get update apt-get update..then run a sh command and your done..I had to reboot, some don't jsut ctrl-alt-bkspace to restart X |
| 15:06.23 | Zarephath | sorry apt-get upgrade |
| 15:07.30 | Zarephath | roxville: See this.... http://www.elivedev.org/?q=node/9 |
| 15:07.37 | Madtast | Cool Thanks For The Help |
| 15:08.26 | Zarephath | Anyone have a guide or howto on adding other items to the menu in the latest cvs release of e17? |
| 15:08.40 | roxville | Zarephath, ohhh.... that's not cvs! |
| 15:08.49 | Zarephath | heheh |
| 15:09.01 | roxville | i am using that version! |
| 15:09.12 | Zarephath | Ahh..kewl..me too now..lol |
| 15:09.31 | roxville | have yoy tried some of the animated icons that PrinceAMD and i made? |
| 15:09.37 | Zarephath | rox |
| 15:09.39 | roxville | yoy = you |
| 15:09.48 | Zarephath | roxville: Nope..where are they? |
| 15:10.16 | roxville | http://www1.get-e.org/Resources/Animated_Icons/ |
| 15:10.29 | Zarephath | Can you explain how I go about adding urxvt to the menu? |
| 15:10.35 | roxville | put them in /.e/e/icons |
| 15:10.45 | roxville | Zarephath, i wish i could... |
| 15:10.59 | Zarephath | roxville: np...thanks |
| 15:11.08 | Zarephath | checking out the icons now.. |
| 15:11.09 | roxville | hmmm... there is an old terminal eap... |
| 15:11.20 | roxville | i think you could look there |
| 15:11.40 | Zarephath | So the newer version still requires making the eap first...good that is a start... |
| 15:11.53 | roxville | Zarephath, in ibar, right-click on an icon and chose "change icons props" |
| 15:12.00 | roxville | no... |
| 15:12.22 | roxville | the new version uses .desktop icons... but can still use eaps, i think |
| 15:12.27 | Zarephath | roxville: oh no...I was talking about the term...not the icons... |
| 15:12.48 | Zarephath | making an eap for the term..:-) |
| 15:12.59 | roxville | what i meant, is that you could open the terminal.eap to see what command to put in the .desktop file |
| 15:13.25 | roxville | well the icon holds the path to the app too, not just the icon |
| 15:14.11 | Madtast | It Seems Like A Lot Of Work |
| 15:14.12 | Madtast | lol |
| 15:14.34 | roxville | only initially...until you learn :) |
| 15:14.48 | roxville | and, it's easier with the new version |
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| 15:15.16 | Zarephath | roxville: Ahh..ok sorry..early, I'm a redneck, ain't had my deer and eggs for breakfast yet! |
| 15:16.32 | roxville | LOL |
| 15:16.36 | Madtast | lol |
| 15:16.53 | roxville | i thought it was possum 'n grits... |
| 15:17.48 | Zarephath | roxville: Only on Sundays..thats when we go all out, being the Sabbath and all.. <grin> |
| 15:18.30 | roxville | Zarephath, i have a new song i have co-written with a great lyricist... we recorded a rehearsal...coz he wanted 3-part harmonies on it...care to hear? |
| 15:18.40 | roxville | ROFL |
| 15:18.41 | Zarephath | roxville: Sure.. |
| 15:19.27 | roxville | http://christidestrom.com/images/stories/bridge.mp3 |
| 15:19.35 | roxville | i haven't posted it yet... |
| 15:19.38 | Zarephath | Thks.. |
| 15:19.41 | Zarephath | Ok..np |
| 15:19.47 | roxville | i'll wait until we have a better recording |
| 15:20.20 | roxville | i'm just doing the top harmonies here |
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| 15:22.09 | roxville | my wife gave me this awesome and surprisingly inexpensive recorder thingy for xmas |
| 15:22.22 | roxville | the mic in it is awesome |
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| 15:22.55 | roxville | http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1901&brandID=4 |
| 15:22.58 | roxville | that one |
| 15:23.22 | Zarephath | roxville: I am impressed with the quality..it is actually pretty clear... |
| 15:23.31 | roxville | we were having some probs with the harmonies :) |
| 15:23.56 | Zarephath | roxville: I understand...I started taking guitar lessons when I was about 11 years old... |
| 15:24.14 | roxville | wow |
| 15:24.14 | Zarephath | I also playe professionally around the local bars and such for about 6 or 7 years... |
| 15:24.21 | Zarephath | *played* |
| 15:24.28 | roxville | i never took lessons... i started at... 12, i think |
| 15:25.05 | Zarephath | Actually my dads side of the family were all self taught musicians...all country(told ya I am a redneck!) |
| 15:25.14 | roxville | :D |
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| 15:26.06 | roxville | good morning, alabama :) |
| 15:26.08 | Zarephath | I have a aunt who has a restaurant in Scottsdale, AZ... http://www.handlebarj.com/ |
| 15:26.43 | roxville | wow, coooool!! |
| 15:27.33 | Zarephath | It says Herndon brothers..but some of us are actually cousins...heh..I haven't played for a long time..I got in with the wrong crowd young playing music...got addicted to drugs...been recovering about 11 years or so now... |
| 15:28.47 | Zarephath | Buy Ray actually played in a band named McBride and the Ride..guitarist, vocals..he was/is the guitarist and vocals for Lyle Lovett if you know who that is.. |
| 15:28.53 | Zarephath | *But* |
| 15:29.52 | Zarephath | Nashville musician for many years...he is now doing sound tracks and music for the motion picture industry..the movie RV..well he and some associates did all of that... |
| 15:30.35 | Zarephath | Actually you are quite talented vocally if I do say so..and I do say so.. |
| 15:31.14 | roxville | thank you :) |
| 15:31.24 | roxville | yeah, that's my forte |
| 15:31.43 | roxville | yeah, drugs can do a lot of shit to ppl... |
| 15:31.48 | THEoracle | g'morning roxville |
| 15:31.56 | roxville | i was lucky, was never interested in them |
| 15:32.04 | roxville | i get high from performing |
| 15:32.17 | Zarephath | roxville: That is really great! Indeed much better with less fallout.. |
| 15:32.27 | roxville | yeah :) |
| 15:32.47 | roxville | but it narrows down the amount of musicians you can play with... :) |
| 15:33.11 | Madtast | Another Simple Question... |
| 15:33.16 | Zarephath | roxville: That is too true..then the aspect of personalities also plays a big part in it too... |
| 15:33.16 | roxville | Lyle Lovett is one of my favs...he is outstanding |
| 15:33.23 | Madtast | If you use apt-get update And then apt-get upgrade |
| 15:33.33 | roxville | Zarephath, yeah |
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| 15:33.36 | Madtast | Will It Update/Upgrade EVERYTHING It Can |
| 15:33.49 | roxville | my biggest hero...is an ex-addict... steve earle |
| 15:33.57 | roxville | Madtast, yes it will |
| 15:33.59 | Zarephath | I'll see later if I can't rip a couple of songs off of my cousins McBride and the ride days and dcc them to you.. |
| 15:34.02 | Madtast | Thank You |
| 15:34.28 | roxville | i liked mcbride & the ride... great band! |
| 15:34.28 | Madtast | lol |
| 15:34.43 | Zarephath | roxville: Oh so you have heard of them... |
| 15:35.04 | roxville | oh yeah! i don't really remember any of the songs... but they were great! |
| 15:35.19 | roxville | i do remember that :) |
| 15:35.54 | Zarephath | roxville: Kewl then...wow a swedish redneck..they must come far and few in between :-)) |
| 15:36.28 | Zarephath | You know I'm just kiddin'(I hope) |
| 15:36.43 | Madtast | Whats The Control Panels Path In Elive? |
| 15:37.07 | THEoracle | http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/ |
| 15:37.49 | roxville | hehe... there are plenty of them in sweden, actually... we just have other names :) |
| 15:38.17 | roxville | Madtast, afaik: elpanel |
| 15:38.33 | Zarephath | roxville: I am having trouble with elive navigating the directories to get to an icon I can use for urxvt..what is the trick? |
| 15:38.51 | Zarephath | I am trying to go here: /usr/share/icons/blah |
| 15:39.06 | Zarephath | Just open thunar and drag and drop maybe? |
| 15:40.38 | roxville | Zarephath, do you have the icon already? |
| 15:41.07 | Zarephath | no..I was just going to browse one...clicking on the config panel in create icon |
| 15:41.30 | roxville | ok |
| 15:42.05 | roxville | the exec is : rxvt, window name: rxvt, window class URxvt |
| 15:42.19 | roxville | these are the things you need to put in for it to work |
| 15:43.17 | roxville | Zarephath, if using just plain icons, use this: http://elivedev.org/roxville/index.php?dir=&file=EXquisite.zip |
| 15:43.27 | roxville | put it in /usr/share/icons |
| 15:43.39 | Zarephath | roxville: Crud...it would help if I actually gave a valid path...duh |
| 15:43.55 | Madtast | Thanks |
| 15:45.06 | roxville | :) |
| 15:49.54 | Madtast | Is There Anyway To Get My Smart Card Reader Working? |
| 15:50.03 | Madtast | Like Is There A Program I Can Install? |
| 15:51.26 | Zarephath | Madtast: It should mount it when you insert the card.. |
| 15:51.34 | roxville | the card should mount in thunar... |
| 15:52.04 | Zarephath | Or you can select drives...it will list them all and select the reading with the card in it. |
| 15:53.00 | Madtast | ?? |
| 15:53.12 | Madtast | I Have A Acer Teravle Mate 8100 |
| 15:53.20 | Madtast | And It Comes With A Smart Card |
| 15:53.24 | Madtast | & Reader |
| 15:54.09 | Madtast | Dose The EMail Client Support Smart Cards? |
| 15:55.28 | Madtast | OpenPGP |
| 15:55.29 | Madtast | It Says My Smart Card Can Not Be Accessed |
| 15:55.29 | Madtast | I Dont Think The Driver Is Installed |
| 15:55.46 | Madtast | Where Do I Find The Drivers? |
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| 15:59.38 | roxville | THEoracle, that's a pretty nice site! |
| 16:00.11 | roxville | Madtast, i do not know where to find the drivers for your media reader, sorry |
| 16:00.18 | roxville | do a search in synaptic |
| 16:00.42 | roxville | if that doesn't work... papa google may have some answers :) |
| 16:00.43 | Madtast | Ok |
| 16:00.51 | Madtast | I Installed smartcard |
| 16:00.59 | Madtast | Now I Just Need To Specify The Port |
| 16:01.05 | Madtast | Its In PCI Express I Think |
| 16:01.12 | roxville | good luck :) |
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| 16:01.17 | Madtast | Thanks |
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| 16:02.36 | Madtast | It Cant Find The Card |
| 16:03.02 | Madtast | How Do I Set A Smartcard Port Using smartcard |
| 16:06.14 | roxville | i have no idea |
| 16:06.17 | roxville | :/ |
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| 16:14.07 | roxville | ok, time to rock and roll! |
| 16:14.08 | roxville | bbl |
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| 16:36.43 | Leprehaun | hello all :) |
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| 16:51.29 | dats | hi |
| 16:56.03 | Leprehaun | sorry rying to install elive :) |
| 16:56.14 | LinuxNIT | having trouble? |
| 16:56.19 | LinuxNIT | hi dats |
| 16:56.24 | Leprehaun | yep :S |
| 16:56.29 | LinuxNIT | whats the trouble? |
| 16:56.55 | Leprehaun | give me a sec linux i want to check something .. |
| 16:57.00 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 17:01.17 | Leprehaun | does elive need 2gb swap file to install ? |
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| 17:04.47 | Leprehaun | linux you about ? |
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| 17:07.28 | Mutacion | qiubole! |
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| 17:15.16 | LinuxNIT-II | grrrr |
| 17:15.27 | LinuxNIT-II | Leprehaun, did you get my response? |
| 17:15.43 | Leprehaun | no disconnected |
| 17:16.43 | LinuxNIT-II | the swap partition does not have to be 2 gigs but you need like 2-2.5 gigs of free space to install |
| 17:16.43 | LinuxNIT-II | not sure which exactly |
| 17:17.33 | Leprehaun | np iv downlaoded the stable version ... iv tried to install 3 times says not enough free space ... (on an 80gb hard drive) lol |
| 17:18.10 | LinuxNIT-II | what are the partitions set up like? |
| 17:18.11 | Leprehaun | ivd checked the dis ... the brun md5 no erros on the disk |
| 17:18.42 | Leprehaun | hda1 as res hda5 as swap |
| 17:18.50 | Leprehaun | hda5 was 1gb |
| 17:19.13 | Leprehaun | 1gb ram on board |
| 17:19.24 | Leprehaun | ggb cpu |
| 17:19.28 | Leprehaun | 1gb* |
| 17:19.32 | LinuxNIT-II | you have 79 gigs of swap? |
| 17:19.51 | LinuxNIT-II | nm |
| 17:19.53 | Leprehaun | hda5 =1gb |
| 17:20.06 | LinuxNIT-II | hda5 needs to be 2 or 2.5 gigs |
| 17:20.30 | Leprehaun | so needs 2gb swap |
| 17:20.44 | LinuxNIT-II | no |
| 17:20.54 | LinuxNIT-II | sorry |
| 17:21.01 | LinuxNIT-II | hda1 needs to be 2-2.5 gigs |
| 17:21.18 | LinuxNIT-II | the partition where you will install the system needs to be 2.5 gigs |
| 17:21.50 | LinuxNIT-II | swap is like an "assistant" to the RAM |
| 17:22.12 | LinuxNIT-II | if you are installing the system to hda1 then you need it to have 2.5 gigs open |
| 17:22.26 | Leprehaun | hmmmmm |
| 17:22.58 | Leprehaun | was just using all of the disk as not wishing to duel boot |
| 17:23.12 | LinuxNIT-II | all you want is elive on it? |
| 17:23.28 | Leprehaun | yep im not going to use it for anything else |
| 17:23.50 | Leprehaun | well coursework and stuff of course |
| 17:24.16 | LinuxNIT-II | then you should have 1 partition 512mb-2 gigs for swap (depending on what you want to do) |
| 17:24.24 | LinuxNIT-II | one partitions for the root file system |
| 17:24.25 | Leprehaun | does the installer have problems reading over certain sizes ? |
| 17:24.30 | LinuxNIT-II | and one partition for /home |
| 17:24.55 | LinuxNIT-II | unless you have a reason for wanting more partitions |
| 17:25.06 | Leprehaun | yea its asking about that duing install but saying not enough free space ??????? |
| 17:25.35 | LinuxNIT-II | you told it to use hda1 as the root file system right? |
| 17:25.36 | Leprehaun | whenits staring to install |
| 17:25.43 | Leprehaun | yep |
| 17:25.51 | LinuxNIT-II | but hda1 is only 1 gig |
| 17:25.54 | LinuxNIT-II | you said so earlier |
| 17:26.02 | Leprehaun | read again .... |
| 17:26.33 | LinuxNIT-II | then how big is it? |
| 17:26.36 | Leprehaun | hda1 was 79 gb hda5 1gb |
| 17:26.51 | LinuxNIT-II | what are hda2-4?" |
| 17:27.08 | LinuxNIT-II | something is wrong here... |
| 17:27.21 | Leprehaun | dosent give me them |
| 17:28.48 | LinuxNIT-II | open gparted |
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| 17:29.24 | Leprehaun | thast something iv noticed gparted during install ?????? just scrolls ... have to use cfdisk |
| 17:29.39 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 17:29.42 | LinuxNIT-II | open a terminal |
| 17:30.14 | LinuxNIT-II | su |
| 17:30.22 | Elive_user34 | hiya |
| 17:30.26 | LinuxNIT-II | lsmod | grep floppy |
| 17:30.31 | LinuxNIT-II | whats the result ? |
| 17:30.34 | LinuxNIT-II | hello Elive_user34 |
| 17:30.54 | Elive_user34 | finally installed elive revolution. looks excellent |
| 17:31.02 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user34, congrats |
| 17:31.10 | Leprehaun | youll have to givc eme 10 15 mins ... iv wiped just wanted to ask about the swap incase it needed |
| 17:31.28 | LinuxNIT-II | Leprehaun, ok |
| 17:31.39 | Elive_user34 | looks like lep is going through the process.. |
| 17:31.42 | LinuxNIT-II | more than likely you need to redo your partitions with gparted |
| 17:31.57 | LinuxNIT-II | when you boot elive next open a terminal |
| 17:31.58 | LinuxNIT-II | su |
| 17:32.04 | LinuxNIT-II | lsmod | grep floppy |
| 17:32.19 | LinuxNIT-II | im guessing the floppy module is loaded but you dont have a floppy drive |
| 17:32.28 | LinuxNIT-II | ive seen this hang gparted before |
| 17:32.43 | LinuxNIT-II | if that command returns something like |
| 17:32.44 | LinuxNIT-II | root@Virtutis[/home/david/programing/python/wifi-gtk]# lsmod | grep flop |
| 17:32.45 | LinuxNIT-II | floppy 55428 0 |
| 17:32.52 | LinuxNIT-II | then: rmmod floppy |
| 17:32.59 | LinuxNIT-II | and gparted should work fine |
| 17:33.07 | Elive_user34 | if I may.. gparted isn't exactly the best partitioning tool I've seen aOURND |
| 17:33.24 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user34, what do you reccommend? |
| 17:34.12 | Leprehaun | during the install i create a primary partion 79gb roughly ... lables that as hda1 (seet as bootable) then create a logical drive use that for swap it lables that as hda5 ???? select hda1 as primary drive wipes hda 1 proceedes to install hans saying not enough free space |
| 17:34.15 | Elive_user34 | fdisk or cfdisk, personally.. If you really want to use a graphical frontend Mandriva's the best I've come accross |
| 17:34.31 | Leprehaun | hangs* |
| 17:34.36 | LinuxNIT-II | Leprehaun, swap dosnt need to be logical |
| 17:34.58 | LinuxNIT-II | use primary |
| 17:35.15 | LinuxNIT-II | logical is so you can add more than 4 partitions to a disk |
| 17:35.55 | Leprehaun | yes back to teh old bios days ;) acde......... upt to z ;) |
| 17:36.28 | LinuxNIT-II | personally i think you should redo the partitioning so that you only have hda1 for the root file system and hda2 swap |
| 17:36.44 | Leprehaun | cool :) ill give it a hot |
| 17:36.53 | Leprehaun | shot* |
| 17:37.21 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user34, yes mandriva does have some nice gui frontends |
| 17:37.31 | LinuxNIT-II | i havent used cfdsik much |
| 17:37.55 | Elive_user34 | truthfully the best and simplest I've seen. Novel suckz |
| 17:38.26 | Elive_user34 | gparted hangs quite a lot on my machine |
| 17:38.27 | LinuxNIT-II | hey at least we dont use qtparted ;) |
| 17:38.35 | Elive_user34 | :) |
| 17:38.49 | LinuxNIT-II | only time ive seen gparted hang is from the floppy issue i mentioned above |
| 17:38.59 | LinuxNIT-II | but thats me :) |
| 17:39.16 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:39.22 | wasynyt | what do you do with floppy drive |
| 17:39.27 | Elive_user34 | uhmmm.. just can't get it to work properly. Guess I've got too many partitions |
| 17:39.33 | wasynyt | how many |
| 17:39.34 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:39.35 | LinuxNIT-II | wasynyt, nothing |
| 17:39.41 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:39.56 | LinuxNIT-II | but i have a floppy controller cause my cdrom is swapable with a floppy drive |
| 17:40.08 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah how many partitions |
| 17:40.11 | LinuxNIT-II | do tell |
| 17:40.39 | LinuxNIT-II | come on Elive_user34 cough it up |
| 17:40.42 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 17:40.45 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:41.48 | LinuxNIT-II | i think hes hiding |
| 17:42.37 | wasynyt | apt find Elive_user34 |
| 17:42.40 | LinuxNIT-II | how ya been wasynyt |
| 17:42.48 | LinuxNIT-II | apt, seen Elive_user34 |
| 17:43.13 | apt | elive_user34 is currently on #elive (14m 23s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 3m 46s, last said: 'uhmmm.. just can't get it to work properly. Guess I've got too many partitions'. |
| 17:43.13 | wasynyt | i have been fine |
| 17:43.14 | wasynyt | i have been training soldiers for a about a month |
| 17:43.33 | LinuxNIT-II | whipping them into shape nicely? |
| 17:43.42 | wasynyt | yeahh ;P |
| 17:43.51 | LinuxNIT-II | OH... according to apt hes still here |
| 17:43.52 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 17:44.06 | wasynyt | no he just thinks that he can fool us |
| 17:44.07 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:44.11 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
| 17:44.25 | wasynyt | makes us forgot our difficult question |
| 17:44.26 | LinuxNIT-II | brb im gonna restart xchat(updated it) |
| 17:44.29 | wasynyt | k |
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| 17:45.05 | wasynyt | welcome back LinuxNIT |
| 17:45.07 | wasynyt | :S |
| 17:45.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:45.09 | Leprehaun | wb linx |
| 17:45.15 | Elive_user34 | sorry guys on the phone ... |
| 17:45.16 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 17:45.27 | LinuxNIT | no worries Elive_user34 we're just teasing ya |
| 17:45.34 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 its elmo40 |
| 17:45.37 | Elive_user34 | ;) |
| 17:45.45 | elmo40 | w00t :-) |
| 17:45.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:45.55 | elmo40 | ya, been a while... working too damn hard :/ |
| 17:45.58 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 its elmo40..... RUNN!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:46.11 | LinuxNIT | welcome back elmo40 |
| 17:46.22 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 17:46.35 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 17:46.41 | Leprehaun | thers ya go hung again .... |
| 17:46.47 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 17:47.01 | LinuxNIT | Leprehaun, when did it hang? |
| 17:47.06 | LinuxNIT | when you started it? |
| 17:47.08 | Leprehaun | ype |
| 17:47.18 | LinuxNIT | did you check for floppy like i said? |
| 17:47.34 | Leprehaun | folowed what you said ... hda1 hda2 as swap |
| 17:47.38 | LinuxNIT | did you check for floppy like i said? |
| 17:47.45 | LinuxNIT | oh ok |
| 17:47.48 | wasynyt | ahh better font |
| 17:47.48 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: just trying to get this old box working for some kids ;) |
| 17:47.48 | wasynyt | _D |
| 17:47.52 | Leprehaun | no flopy on my lappy |
| 17:47.53 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:47.55 | elmo40 | looking at some of those 'education' distros |
| 17:48.01 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 17:48.03 | LinuxNIT | Leprehaun, but did you check for the module? |
| 17:48.05 | Leprehaun | only cd |
| 17:48.06 | wasynyt | are those any good |
| 17:48.54 | Leprehaun | hold on ill log in using lappy |
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| 17:49.37 | wasynyt | he is not hiding debian repos |
| 17:49.40 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:49.43 | wasynyt | apt thanks |
| 17:49.43 | apt | wasynyt: no problem |
| 17:49.51 | LinuxNIT | Leprehaun, i understand that there is only a cdrom drive in the computer.... BUT you need to check and see if the floppy module is loaded |
| 17:50.03 | LinuxNIT | just do it |
| 17:50.08 | Elive_user18 | ok what was thet cooand again ? |
| 17:50.12 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 17:50.14 | Elive_user18 | command* |
| 17:50.17 | LinuxNIT | lsmod | grep floppy |
| 17:50.39 | LinuxNIT | does it return anything? |
| 17:50.44 | wasynyt | good evening darkstar |
| 17:50.48 | elmo40 | stupid irc rooms... they have 41 people in it, and not a single chat happening :/ |
| 17:50.54 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:50.59 | darkstar | ciao |
| 17:51.03 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, were chatting |
| 17:51.04 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 17:51.07 | Elive_user18 | god damm keyborad is wrong its us :S |
| 17:51.13 | Elive_user18 | sorry ... |
| 17:51.23 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user18, go to elpanel and change it |
| 17:52.14 | Elive_user18 | :() |
| 17:53.08 | Elive_user18 | floppy 55108 0 |
| 17:53.15 | Elive_user18 | is response |
| 17:53.26 | LinuxNIT | thats is what is hanging gparted |
| 17:53.27 | LinuxNIT | rmmod floppy |
| 17:53.37 | LinuxNIT | killall gparted |
| 17:54.16 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: was in edubuntu (education distro) and no one is talking |
| 17:54.20 | LinuxNIT | if this gparted was starting by the installer then the install should continue |
| 17:54.22 | darkstar | looks like gparted hangs everywhere |
| 17:54.34 | LinuxNIT | darkstar, where does it hang for you? |
| 17:54.37 | Elive_user18 | root@Elive[/home/eliveuser]# killall gparted |
| 17:54.37 | Elive_user18 | gparted: no process killed |
| 17:54.50 | wasynyt | you need the process id |
| 17:55.04 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user18, is gparted still open? |
| 17:55.12 | darkstar | Just can't use it. Think I've got too many partitions on hdrives.. |
| 17:55.19 | LinuxNIT | how many partitions? |
| 17:55.25 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 17:55.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:55.37 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, and i are dying to know |
| 17:55.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 17:55.42 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:55.44 | Elive_user18 | me ? two hda1 hda2 |
| 17:55.46 | wasynyt | tell us |
| 17:55.54 | darkstar | can' even count'em.. I've got hard drives.. must be around 30 partitions all together |
| 17:56.12 | wasynyt | hmm why so many |
| 17:56.12 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 17:56.17 | wasynyt | are you reviewer |
| 17:56.25 | wasynyt | or serious multiuser tester |
| 17:56.40 | LinuxNIT | hes an obsessive distro hopper ;) |
| 17:56.44 | LinuxNIT | just kidding |
| 17:56.45 | darkstar | got Suse10.2, Edgy, Elive, |
| 17:57.06 | darkstar | Just obsessioned .. downloading now Feisty 7.04 |
| 17:57.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 17:57.25 | wasynyt | eh |
| 17:57.38 | wasynyt | well everyone has theyre own hobbys |
| 17:57.51 | darkstar | you got that right |
| 17:58.08 | Elive_user18 | ok installer wont run ????? |
| 17:58.18 | darkstar | just freed up lotta space remivong win$ |
| 17:58.34 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:58.42 | wasynyt | that's the magic |
| 17:59.23 | darkstar | gotta tell ya Beryl on Edgy is just great-- |
| 17:59.41 | wasynyt | hmm i dont feel the need for those... not yet |
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| 17:59.54 | darkstar | brb phone call again... |
| 17:59.56 | wasynyt | i want them to get more "complete" |
| 18:00.11 | darkstar | you're right, though. e17 is great |
| 18:00.37 | darkstar | but for thr fun of trying they're gorgeous |
| 18:00.43 | darkstar | PHONE |
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| 18:03.17 | LinuxNIT | Leprehaun, were you elive user18? |
| 18:03.24 | Leprehaun | yep |
| 18:03.33 | Leprehaun | was* |
| 18:03.53 | Leprehaun | it says was locked haveto restart .. |
| 18:04.43 | Leprehaun | this is getting like to much work ... |
| 18:05.18 | Leprehaun | :S |
| 18:05.43 | LinuxNIT | well honestly if you had checked for floppy when you booted like i said... it would be installing right now ;) |
| 18:06.01 | Leprehaun | not to worry ill go the long way round ;) |
| 18:18.37 | Leprehaun | sorry was on phone ... |
| 18:20.59 | Leprehaun | linux does the rmmod floppy remove floppy and stop gparted from hanging ? |
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| 18:21.15 | LinuxNIT | it should |
| 18:21.19 | LinuxNIT | if you run it as root |
| 18:21.30 | Leprehaun | cool iv reloaded elive |
| 18:22.00 | LinuxNIT | if you have set up the disks correctly with cfdisk im sure that will work fine |
| 18:22.20 | LinuxNIT | but hda and hda5 is just kinda wierd for only 2 partitions |
| 18:22.21 | wasynyt | good evening Mtraker |
| 18:22.33 | Mtraker | hi wasynyt |
| 18:22.41 | wasynyt | what was the command to see partion table |
| 18:22.56 | LinuxNIT | fdisk -l is one |
| 18:23.04 | Mtraker | fdisk -l |
| 18:23.38 | wasynyt | k |
| 18:28.22 | Leprehaun | not to worryi run that command gparted loaded hda1 (primary) hda2 as swap |
| 18:28.42 | Leprehaun | installing at the min .. |
| 18:31.32 | LinuxNIT | k |
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| 18:39.14 | Leprehaun | linux ill have yor cyber babies for you lol ... ty thaqts seemed to have cured it |
| 18:39.38 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 |
| 18:39.53 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome.... |
| 18:40.08 | wasynyt | huh |
| 18:40.15 | LinuxNIT | cyber babies? |
| 18:40.23 | wasynyt | apt cyber babie |
| 18:40.46 | Leprehaun | lol |
| 18:41.18 | LinuxNIT | whew |
| 18:41.31 | LinuxNIT | apt cyber-baby |
| 18:41.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:41.56 | wasynyt | apt moo |
| 18:41.58 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 18:42.25 | LinuxNIT | apt cyber-babies |
| 18:42.27 | apt | [cyber-babies] the destruction of the world |
| 18:42.32 | LinuxNIT | oh shit |
| 18:42.39 | wasynyt | shit happens |
| 18:42.53 | wasynyt | :P |
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| 18:50.03 | dats | re |
| 18:50.05 | Leprehaun | lol |
| 18:50.18 | Leprehaun | guess i said the wrong thing lmao |
| 18:50.30 | wasynyt | dats Leprehaun is trying to destroy the world |
| 18:50.38 | wasynyt | :P |
| 18:51.05 | Leprehaun | just havent figured out teh right key combo on the keyboard yet |
| 18:51.16 | dats | how wasynyt ? |
| 18:51.30 | wasynyt | apt cyber-babies |
| 18:51.39 | dats | apt cyber-babies ? |
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| 18:51.45 | dats | wasynyt: apt-get install woman :P |
| 18:51.46 | dats | xDDD |
| 18:51.53 | wasynyt | <LinuxNIT> apt cyber-babies |
| 18:51.53 | wasynyt | <apt> [cyber-babies] the destruction of the world |
| 18:52.12 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:52.17 | wasynyt | not a joke |
| 18:53.28 | wasynyt | -> food |
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| 19:46.55 | elmo40 | apt date |
| 19:47.07 | apt | It is now 2007.02.03 19:47:07 GMT |
| 19:49.11 | elmo40 | roxville: moo? |
| 19:49.15 | elmo40 | apt moo |
| 19:49.17 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
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| 19:54.13 | atum1997 | apt date |
| 19:54.15 | apt | It is now 2007.02.03 19:54:15 GMT |
| 19:55.11 | elmo40 | i just did that... |
| 19:55.11 | atum1997 | did you? |
| 19:55.12 | roxville | elmo40, yeah, moo to you too :) |
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| 19:55.18 | atum1997 | my irc history got cleared, so I see nothing besides what we are saying now |
| 19:55.24 | elmo40 | oh |
| 19:55.26 | elmo40 | apt time |
| 19:55.33 | apt | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.02.03 19:55:33 GMT) |
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| 20:01.20 | elmo40 | roxville: and how be you? |
| 20:06.01 | Mutacion | apt time-to |
| 20:06.02 | apt | rumour has it, time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
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| 20:09.57 | roxville | elmo40, i'm doing ok... got a cold that makes the whole family tired and cranky... but so far, nobody has been killed :) |
| 20:10.09 | Leprehaun | rox i have a ? youtink you could me help |
| 20:10.13 | roxville | i mean, we all have it |
| 20:10.16 | Leprehaun | maby* |
| 20:10.25 | roxville | Leprehaun, i'll try :) |
| 20:11.41 | Leprehaun | ok after last night i followed trogs instructions again ... np however when i roto relog on only e16 desktop is in list ? is it poossible to load e17 from console if so how |
| 20:11.54 | Leprehaun | goto* |
| 20:11.56 | cornelius[cz] | bryyyce: do I hi |
| 20:11.57 | Mutacion | i also have a cold :( and cold too :P |
| 20:12.01 | cornelius[cz] | ooops |
| 20:12.02 | cornelius[cz] | hi |
| 20:12.13 | Mutacion | qiubole cornelius[cz] |
| 20:12.50 | roxville | Leprehaun, just a sec :) |
| 20:13.00 | Leprehaun | np :) |
| 20:13.54 | atum1997 | apt rumor |
| 20:13.56 | apt | somebody said rumor was you're a homobot |
| 20:14.01 | atum1997 | damnit... |
| 20:14.05 | atum1997 | I'm going to work :( |
| 20:14.11 | atum1997 | apt doesn't like me |
| 20:14.32 | Leprehaun | roflmao .. sorry thast so funny |
| 20:14.40 | roxville | Leprehaun, ok... when you get to entrance, press ctrl+alt+F1 |
| 20:15.25 | roxville | then: startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start -- :1 |
| 20:16.12 | roxville | once you got that command right once, the next time you log in, just press your up-arrow until you find it :) |
| 20:18.32 | roxville | after ctrl+alt+F1, of course |
| 20:23.25 | roxville | Leprehaun, ? |
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| 20:31.50 | wasynyt | good evening everyone |
| 20:31.52 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:33.38 | Mutacion | qiubole wasynyt |
| 20:33.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:33.59 | wasynyt | how are you doing Mutacion |
| 20:34.15 | Mutacion | with some hambrita.. |
| 20:34.35 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:34.51 | kender | xDD |
| 20:34.55 | kender | hambrita |
| 20:34.57 | kender | hehe |
| 20:36.46 | roxville | arrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:36.56 | wasynyt | roxville, ? |
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| 20:37.14 | wasynyt | apt slap wasynyt |
| 20:37.20 | apt | ACTION slaps wasynyt, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:37.21 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 20:37.36 | kender | apt en es grubby |
| 20:37.51 | kender | apt en es hello |
| 20:37.56 | kender | apt help |
| 20:38.20 | kender | apt x en es grubby |
| 20:38.22 | wasynyt | apt x en es hello |
| 20:38.27 | kender | pf |
| 20:38.31 | kender | ahh |
| 20:38.31 | kender | ok |
| 20:38.32 | kender | :) |
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| 20:39.00 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:39.29 | Mutacion | yeah kender , igot hambrita :( |
| 20:39.42 | kender | hungryta? |
| 20:39.44 | kender | hehe |
| 20:39.58 | Mutacion | nou nou..hambrita is more :P |
| 20:40.04 | kender | hehe |
| 20:41.49 | roxville | more like "hambrissimo"? |
| 20:42.39 | kender | yes |
| 20:42.45 | kender | humgriest |
| 20:42.50 | kender | hehehe |
| 20:42.54 | roxville | :) |
| 20:42.58 | kender | *hubgrie |
| 20:42.59 | kender | ag |
| 20:43.03 | kender | hungriest |
| 20:43.10 | kender | that's it |
| 20:44.30 | roxville | yes |
| 20:44.41 | Leprehaun | sorry was on phome there |
| 20:45.15 | roxville | ok :) |
| 20:45.36 | roxville | Leprehaun, just follow those instructions, and you should be fine |
| 20:45.40 | Leprehaun | am thats started it but iv just loged out e17 ainton the list |
| 20:45.59 | Leprehaun | just e16 |
| 20:46.28 | roxville | Leprehaun, did you follow my istructions? |
| 20:46.29 | Leprehaun | btw a nicer desktop |
| 20:46.37 | Leprehaun | yep loged on as root |
| 20:46.42 | roxville | no no |
| 20:46.55 | Leprehaun | ahhhhh |
| 20:47.15 | roxville | you do this: ctrl+alt+backaspace |
| 20:47.16 | Leprehaun | right im back at log in screen |
| 20:47.30 | Leprehaun | crelalt f1 was last time |
| 20:47.33 | roxville | then when in entrance... you follow the instructions |
| 20:47.38 | roxville | nothing in root |
| 20:47.52 | roxville | NO ROOT |
| 20:48.02 | Leprehaun | ok ... |
| 20:49.32 | roxville | i gotta go for a bit..bbl |
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| 20:55.28 | wild123 | hi |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | good evening wild123 |
| 20:55.45 | wild123 | evening |
| 20:56.51 | wild123 | hows it going |
| 20:57.05 | wasynyt | it is going nicely... |
| 20:57.13 | wasynyt | little sleepy at the moment |
| 20:57.52 | wild123 | ah |
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| 20:58.50 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:58.55 | wasynyt | no sleep... not yet |
| 20:58.57 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:00.41 | wild123 | ah |
| 21:00.48 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:00.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:00.56 | wasynyt | that is why i am still up |
| 21:01.06 | LinuxNIT | hi |
| 21:01.42 | wasynyt | good evening LinuxNIT |
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| 21:07.22 | wild123 | hi hi |
| 21:07.37 | wasynyt | now what are yo upeople upto |
| 21:07.39 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:07.55 | wild123 | im trying to figure out this display thing for enlightenment on bsd |
| 21:08.03 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:08.27 | wild123 | http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e16no1.jpg |
| 21:09.15 | wasynyt | nice |
| 21:09.17 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:09.26 | wild123 | :-p |
| 21:09.30 | wild123 | any suggestions |
| 21:10.06 | wasynyt | mhmm |
| 21:10.15 | wasynyt | do you have xorg runing ? |
| 21:10.21 | wasynyt | or is it killed |
| 21:10.31 | wasynyt | is your conf file in order |
| 21:10.35 | wild123 | xorg works but its not running |
| 21:10.45 | wild123 | if i do startx xorg starts fine |
| 21:11.04 | wasynyt | is enlightenment added to xorg conf so that it knows how to start x |
| 21:11.16 | wasynyt | and vise versa |
| 21:11.16 | LinuxNIT | startx /usr/bin/e16 |
| 21:11.48 | LinuxNIT | assuming it works as it does in linux |
| 21:11.51 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:12.02 | LinuxNIT | if x is running else where then append -- :1 to the end |
| 21:12.51 | wild123 | prolly not |
| 21:12.55 | LinuxNIT | try it |
| 21:13.03 | wild123 | ok |
| 21:13.09 | LinuxNIT | wont hurt it :) |
| 21:13.52 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:13.54 | wasynyt | yeah... |
| 21:14.01 | wasynyt | but remember that it is bsd |
| 21:14.12 | LinuxNIT | startx is a program... i would think it would have at least similar syntax |
| 21:14.19 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:14.27 | wild123 | ah |
| 21:14.31 | LinuxNIT | it work? |
| 21:14.44 | wild123 | i know enough to get around and install stuff basically |
| 21:14.52 | wasynyt | k |
| 21:14.55 | wild123 | im jus not really familar with confioguring displays n all |
| 21:15.21 | wild123 | beyond what the handbook says |
| 21:15.24 | wasynyt | Keywords: ktech kituneswin 3pty from apple site... the heck are they thinking with these keywords |
| 21:15.35 | LinuxNIT | http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/penguin_pages/images/nevertrustapenguinmadagasca.jpg |
| 21:15.39 | LinuxNIT | the defenders of linux |
| 21:15.40 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:15.58 | wasynyt | nnice |
| 21:16.00 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:16.05 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:16.33 | wild123 | im still learning |
| 21:16.52 | LinuxNIT | we all are |
| 21:16.54 | wild123 | got xorg working but i dunno about the stuff like this cause its not in the handbook |
| 21:17.10 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:17.19 | wasynyt | well do you have any gui's working |
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| 21:17.39 | LinuxNIT | well if you install something like xdm gdm kdm they are graphical login managers |
| 21:17.57 | LinuxNIT | xdm is independant gdm for gnome and kdm for kde |
| 21:18.00 | wild123 | tried running kdm but it runs all funky |
| 21:18.07 | wasynyt | try xdm |
| 21:18.37 | wild123 | xdm doesent do anything |
| 21:18.40 | wild123 | prolly not installed |
| 21:19.08 | wild123 | one sec |
| 21:19.11 | wild123 | i'll double check |
| 21:19.17 | wasynyt | you do that |
| 21:20.30 | wild123 | i'll figure it out evtuanully |
| 21:20.31 | wild123 | ;) |
| 21:22.42 | wasynyt | HMM |
| 21:23.21 | wild123 | this is the startx /usr/bin/e16 http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startxxn4.png |
| 21:23.52 | LinuxNIT | ok where is the executable for e16 located? |
| 21:24.05 | LinuxNIT | maybe just: startx e16 |
| 21:24.32 | LinuxNIT | whereis e16 might give you the path to the executable |
| 21:24.48 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:24.53 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:24.58 | wasynyt | then there is two of us |
| 21:25.10 | wild123 | :) |
| 21:25.15 | wasynyt | or three |
| 21:25.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 21:25.36 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:27.01 | wild123 | well one way to lern is by trying :) |
| 21:27.39 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:27.44 | wasynyt | that is the best way |
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| 21:28.02 | LinuxNIT | did you try start x e16 or whereis e16? |
| 21:29.12 | wild123 | back to the books in reading |
| 21:29.21 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:29.28 | wild123 | i did startx /usr/bin/e16 |
| 21:29.45 | LinuxNIT | i know but /usr/bin/e16 it said was not the correct path |
| 21:29.54 | LinuxNIT | look in the consoles output |
| 21:29.55 | wild123 | kk |
| 21:30.25 | wild123 | x11r6/bin eh |
| 21:30.26 | wild123 | ? |
| 21:31.37 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 21:31.41 | LinuxNIT | if thats where it is |
| 21:32.06 | LinuxNIT | use that |
| 21:32.38 | wild123 | kk |
| 21:33.41 | wild123 | browsing enlightenment's user guide, seeing if i missed anyting |
| 21:37.16 | LinuxNIT | oook |
| 21:37.23 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:38.52 | wild123 | humm |
| 21:40.58 | wild123 | woot |
| 21:40.59 | wild123 | got it |
| 21:41.04 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 21:41.18 | wild123 | yay for whereis command |
| 21:41.23 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:42.27 | wild123 | finally got enlightenment working on a freebsd install |
| 21:42.27 | wild123 | :) |
| 21:42.43 | LinuxNIT | congrats |
| 21:43.12 | wild123 | hehe thanx |
| 21:43.26 | wild123 | now to learn how to configure it to my liking and all |
| 21:43.40 | LinuxNIT | your welcome |
| 21:44.51 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:44.56 | wild123 | http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enlightch4.png |
| 21:45.04 | wasynyt | now we only need to convince you to change to elive :P |
| 21:45.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 21:45.22 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:45.27 | wild123 | i use elive also |
| 21:45.29 | LinuxNIT | well he wouldnt have much configuring to do ;) |
| 21:45.36 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:45.44 | wasynyt | that would be pretty much done |
| 21:45.46 | wild123 | i jus wanna learnhow to do it for freebsd |
| 21:46.16 | LinuxNIT | learning is good |
| 21:46.17 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:46.24 | wild123 | yes yes |
| 21:46.26 | wasynyt | yeah and forgetting is easy |
| 21:46.30 | wild123 | hehe |
| 21:46.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:46.47 | wild123 | once i learn how to do it for bsd i will learn how to do it for all other distros |
| 21:47.07 | wasynyt | how does bsd compare with linux |
| 21:47.14 | wild123 | good |
| 21:47.17 | wasynyt | on a base level |
| 21:47.22 | wasynyt | hmm k |
| 21:47.32 | wild123 | i like its package managment system better than linux personally |
| 21:47.38 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 21:47.46 | wasynyt | that is only personal thought |
| 21:47.55 | wild123 | is why i said - personal |
| 21:47.56 | wild123 | ;) |
| 21:48.12 | wasynyt | or lack of it |
| 21:48.17 | wild123 | lack hehe |
| 21:48.28 | wasynyt | but no more on that subject |
| 21:48.37 | wild123 | all thou in the scedme of things bsd and linux seems generally the same |
| 21:48.40 | wild123 | sceme* |
| 21:48.45 | wasynyt | k |
| 21:48.56 | wasynyt | so the things re generaly the same |
| 21:49.01 | wasynyt | *are |
| 21:49.03 | wild123 | ya go about things aboutthe same way |
| 21:49.11 | wasynyt | hmm nice |
| 21:49.13 | wild123 | same general commands n all |
| 21:49.31 | wasynyt | well both are compiled with gcc... |
| 21:49.35 | wasynyt | or so i think |
| 21:49.41 | wild123 | im doing freebsd with all the linux stuff i learned |
| 21:49.47 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:49.49 | wild123 | yea |
| 21:49.50 | wasynyt | why freebsd |
| 21:50.16 | wild123 | so i know linux and unix |
| 21:50.19 | wild123 | :) |
| 21:50.22 | wasynyt | k |
| 21:50.34 | wild123 | why not :) |
| 21:50.40 | wasynyt | knowing unix is usefull... i have to admit |
| 21:50.45 | wild123 | yea |
| 21:50.57 | wasynyt | there is a lot of jobs in there |
| 21:50.58 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:51.05 | wasynyt | even thou it is old as hell |
| 21:51.06 | wild123 | to make a true comparsioni think one would have to know both |
| 21:51.07 | wild123 | also |
| 21:51.25 | wild123 | well bsd has been around longer |
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| 21:51.28 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:51.40 | wasynyt | and original unix's beat them both |
| 21:51.44 | wild123 | yea |
| 21:51.46 | wasynyt | :P |
| 21:51.55 | wasynyt | but those things are really ancient |
| 21:52.07 | wild123 | im sticking to bsd thou for now |
| 21:52.10 | wasynyt | k |
| 21:52.12 | wild123 | till i learn linux anbd bsd |
| 21:52.16 | wild123 | and* |
| 21:52.24 | wasynyt | so it suits your needs better |
| 21:52.25 | wasynyt | ? |
| 21:53.01 | trog | my oppinion is that bsd is superior to linux .... :) |
| 21:53.05 | wasynyt | no need to |
| 21:53.24 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:53.35 | wasynyt | perhaps because of good whisky |
| 21:53.37 | wild123 | its all the same family anyways no |
| 21:53.38 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:53.46 | wasynyt | hmm i think not |
| 21:53.51 | wild123 | how so? |
| 21:54.04 | wild123 | linux is a clone/offtane of unix |
| 21:54.05 | trog | the kernel architecture differs |
| 21:54.06 | wasynyt | *nix and linux are not that close family in the end... |
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| 21:54.13 | wasynyt | and that is the thing |
| 21:54.17 | wild123 | well still the same family |
| 21:54.23 | wasynyt | hmm true |
| 21:54.42 | wasynyt | i will be back in a sec |
| 21:54.45 | wild123 | not like comparing say windows and say gentoo |
| 21:55.01 | wild123 | or say dos and mac os |
| 21:56.18 | trog | wild123: so what you're saying is, there's no chance for a OS flamewar... ;) |
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| 21:56.45 | wild123 | nope |
| 21:56.56 | wild123 | they're to closly related for a os flamewar |
| 21:57.03 | wild123 | bad spelling aside |
| 21:57.08 | wasynyt | what are |
| 21:57.13 | wild123 | linux/unux |
| 21:57.15 | wild123 | unix* |
| 21:57.23 | wasynyt | nah easy |
| 21:57.36 | wild123 | i consider a worthy os flamewar mac and windows or os2 and dos and such |
| 21:57.56 | wild123 | or *nix and windows |
| 21:58.02 | wasynyt | nope.. most people consider differencies between distros enough for flames |
| 21:58.06 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:58.07 | wild123 | eh |
| 21:58.14 | wild123 | to petty for me |
| 21:58.25 | wasynyt | it is |
| 21:58.33 | wasynyt | but still that is what they do |
| 21:58.45 | wild123 | any distro is better than using windows no |
| 21:58.47 | wasynyt | differencies like default theme etc |
| 21:58.53 | wasynyt | i think not |
| 21:58.58 | wild123 | whats the point |
| 21:59.07 | wild123 | themes n all can be configured :) |
| 21:59.14 | wasynyt | no idea |
| 21:59.19 | wasynyt | but that is the way it is |
| 21:59.29 | wild123 | even suse can be installed jus commandline and configured up from there |
| 21:59.30 | wasynyt | heh |
| 21:59.31 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 21:59.36 | wasynyt | or anything else too |
| 21:59.39 | wild123 | yep |
| 21:59.48 | wasynyt | and one can dig the comand line from mac too |
| 21:59.53 | wild123 | eh |
| 21:59.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:59.58 | wild123 | hybrid |
| 22:00.00 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 22:00.05 | wasynyt | but still it is there |
| 22:00.09 | wild123 | osx doesent count as a true freebsd |
| 22:00.14 | wasynyt | nope |
| 22:00.17 | wild123 | its there |
| 22:00.26 | wasynyt | because it has a rather interesting kernel |
| 22:00.33 | wasynyt | bsd plus something |
| 22:00.41 | wasynyt | i cant remember what that was |
| 22:00.44 | wild123 | hybird doesent count as a true *nix |
| 22:00.49 | wasynyt | humm |
| 22:01.25 | wild123 | well the whole meaning "hybrid" means it isnt the full thing |
| 22:01.47 | wild123 | running freebsd or linix on ppc counts thou |
| 22:01.47 | wasynyt | hybrid means that it is a compination of things |
| 22:01.53 | wild123 | :) |
| 22:01.57 | wild123 | linux* |
| 22:02.30 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 22:02.33 | wild123 | :) |
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| 22:02.56 | wasynyt | i dont mind what the underlaying system is as long as it works |
| 22:03.08 | wasynyt | and does what it is meant to do |
| 22:03.47 | wild123 | eh |
| 22:03.48 | wild123 | heh |
| 22:03.57 | wild123 | ird rather have full control over the os |
| 22:04.14 | wild123 | osx doesent give you 100% opensource/control over it |
| 22:04.17 | wasynyt | hmm i dont mind as long as the first thing stays |
| 22:04.28 | wasynyt | usually it does not |
| 22:04.35 | wasynyt | well osx works jolly good... |
| 22:04.43 | wild123 | i lump osx and windows in the same catagory..properity os's |
| 22:04.49 | wasynyt | compared to many other propietary os's |
| 22:05.07 | wild123 | :) |
| 22:05.13 | wasynyt | well it has working sound architechture unlike linux |
| 22:05.15 | wasynyt | :P |
| 22:05.27 | trog | true plug&play... |
| 22:05.33 | trog | i hate the linux usb driver |
| 22:05.37 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:05.50 | wild123 | heh |
| 22:05.54 | wasynyt | well i would just like to see working sound architechture in linux |
| 22:06.07 | wild123 | sound works fine for me on suse |
| 22:06.16 | wasynyt | something that would just work |
| 22:06.20 | wild123 | heh |
| 22:06.29 | wasynyt | nothing has just worked for me on linux |
| 22:06.32 | wild123 | im using suse linux as a multimedia desktop on one computer |
| 22:06.55 | wasynyt | i am using suse too.. and it does not work as i would please on sound side |
| 22:07.13 | wild123 | ya need to add repo's to suse |
| 22:07.17 | wild123 | and run the upgrade for it |
| 22:07.18 | wasynyt | i have |
| 22:07.19 | wild123 | and it works |
| 22:07.23 | wasynyt | nope |
| 22:07.27 | wild123 | install mplayer and vlc |
| 22:07.29 | wild123 | :) |
| 22:07.35 | wasynyt | i wont even try to beat jack to work |
| 22:07.43 | wild123 | heh |
| 22:07.47 | wasynyt | those are not what i mean |
| 22:07.54 | wild123 | got all the codec installed? |
| 22:08.12 | wild123 | it works fine for me after i added repos and upgraded |
| 22:08.33 | wasynyt | i have full audio otherwise working but on some games (ut2k4) and few sound apps are working like shit |
| 22:09.40 | wild123 | heres a bunch of suse repos http://software.opensuse.org/download/ |
| 22:09.48 | wild123 | :) |
| 22:10.04 | wasynyt | i know.. it is not the apps... it is how they are made |
| 22:10.15 | wasynyt | i would need a realtime kernel as an example |
| 22:10.24 | wasynyt | and i am not going to do that by myself |
| 22:10.53 | wild123 | for upgrading suse apps http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Updating_KDE_and_other_applications_via_YaST |
| 22:11.00 | wild123 | after ya add repoes |
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| 22:11.19 | wild123 | it helps for pulling threw codec n all for audio :) |
| 22:11.51 | wasynyt | i have all codecs |
| 22:11.56 | wild123 | kk |
| 22:12.00 | wasynyt | it is not codecs i am missing |
| 22:12.01 | wild123 | well run the upgrade |
| 22:12.04 | wild123 | what then? |
| 22:12.10 | wasynyt | i am missing functionality as whole |
| 22:12.17 | wasynyt | there is stuff missing |
| 22:12.19 | wild123 | repoes then upgrading helps with that kinda stuff |
| 22:12.37 | wild123 | fills in missing things |
| 22:12.51 | wasynyt | believe me that i have fought enough with suse to know it... |
| 22:12.59 | wild123 | yea so have i |
| 22:13.01 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:13.04 | wild123 | been using it since 8.1 |
| 22:13.31 | wasynyt | i have been using it since 9.2... and some pauses here and there when it broke down |
| 22:13.34 | wild123 | jus sharing what i did to fill in those missing things |
| 22:13.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:13.45 | wild123 | take it as wished |
| 22:13.56 | wild123 | :) |
| 22:13.58 | wasynyt | heh i can tell you that i would need to recompile my kernel for starters |
| 22:14.01 | wasynyt | :S |
| 22:14.06 | wild123 | heh |
| 22:14.08 | wild123 | doesent hurt |
| 22:14.19 | wild123 | jus says thats a way that does help |
| 22:14.40 | wasynyt | i have m-audio delta 44 sound card-- and to really get it working it needs realtime support in kernel |
| 22:14.41 | wild123 | and i have a working multimedia suse desktop from it |
| 22:14.50 | wild123 | ah well yea that |
| 22:14.54 | wasynyt | heh multimedia works fine |
| 22:15.05 | wild123 | there are those odd ball drivers |
| 22:15.13 | wild123 | that are a pain |
| 22:15.16 | wasynyt | nahh the drivers are all good |
| 22:15.22 | wasynyt | comes with the distro |
| 22:15.31 | wasynyt | i think it is open source |
| 22:15.48 | wasynyt | it is just that i dont have correct stuff in my kernel |
| 22:15.51 | wild123 | kk |
| 22:15.53 | wild123 | good luck hehe |
| 22:15.54 | wild123 | ;) |
| 22:15.55 | wasynyt | and i cant bother to do that |
| 22:15.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:15.57 | wild123 | brb 1 sec |
| 22:15.59 | wasynyt | k |
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| 22:17.39 | wasynyt | good evening GPLGeek |
| 22:17.56 | GPLGeek | hey |
| 22:18.12 | wasynyt | how is life |
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| 22:19.05 | wild123 | pleasure talking geek with ya wasynyt |
| 22:19.12 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:19.13 | wild123 | im off to do some stuff |
| 22:19.13 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:19.17 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 22:19.18 | wild123 | take care |
| 22:19.20 | wild123 | ;) |
| 22:19.21 | wasynyt | i will |
| 22:19.22 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:21.55 | GPLGeek | There was a guy at work that was pissed off because I was bringing out his pizza 46 seconds early, being 12:44 instead of 12:45 |
| 22:22.19 | wasynyt | really |
| 22:22.32 | GPLGeek | He threw all of my exceptions I tell you what |
| 22:22.48 | wasynyt | .. |
| 22:23.02 | GPLGeek | he called me a liar, told me that my mother must think i'm a loser, and said that I was a incompitant idiot in one sentence. |
| 22:23.22 | wasynyt | :S what was that hero rhinkg |
| 22:23.27 | wasynyt | *thing |
| 22:23.34 | wasynyt | *thinking |
| 22:24.11 | GPLGeek | quote "I can't beleive this, you've fucked up my dougter's birthday party" . "Fucked it all to hell." |
| 22:24.25 | wasynyt | huh? 46 seconds |
| 22:24.32 | GPLGeek | yes |
| 22:24.37 | GPLGeek | ... exactly 46 seconds early |
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| 22:25.02 | GPLGeek | so i come back with another pizza, since they were still coming out of the oven (multiple orders for a party) |
| 22:25.06 | wasynyt | i am amased... like kinds realize time like 46 seconds |
| 22:25.14 | GPLGeek | I come back and he said "you fucked it all up, do you enjoy fucking children?" |
| 22:25.26 | GPLGeek | at that point I told him to sit down and shut up. |
| 22:25.31 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:25.39 | wasynyt | well that was on odd customer |
| 22:25.40 | GPLGeek | Surprising reaction from his family. |
| 22:25.56 | GPLGeek | quote "you dont talk to him that way do you know who he is?" |
| 22:26.21 | wasynyt | who was he he car sales man ? |
| 22:26.47 | GPLGeek | dont know |
| 22:27.45 | GPLGeek | told her "I dont care who he is, I demand respect, you can leave if you like but you can't talk to me like that here." |
| 22:27.50 | PrinceAMD | ah |
| 22:27.55 | PrinceAMD | la la laaaa |
| 22:28.00 | GPLGeek | exactly |
| 22:28.03 | wasynyt | good evening PrinceAMD |
| 22:28.13 | PrinceAMD | good evening wasynyt GPLGeek |
| 22:28.27 | PrinceAMD | i'm just warming up for the rock party tonight |
| 22:29.03 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:29.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:29.09 | GPLGeek | rock party? |
| 22:29.24 | PrinceAMD | i gatto get myself a date |
| 22:29.30 | PrinceAMD | ROCK PARTY!!! |
| 22:29.32 | wasynyt | nice |
| 22:29.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:29.41 | PrinceAMD | it's called DOOMSDAY |
| 22:29.44 | GPLGeek | where |
| 22:29.45 | PrinceAMD | my friends trowing it |
| 22:29.55 | PrinceAMD | club SKY 7 |
| 22:29.59 | PrinceAMD | in guyana |
| 22:30.06 | PrinceAMD | u wont know where guys |
| 22:30.33 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 22:31.02 | PrinceAMD | i got 2 chicks to go with 1, my friend sister, or my friend X girl friend |
| 22:31.10 | PrinceAMD | so i'm debating |
| 22:31.25 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:31.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:31.38 | GPLGeek | guyana the country (south america) or guyana the city (europe) |
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| 22:31.50 | PrinceAMD | guyana the country (south america) |
| 22:32.16 | GPLGeek | what's the primary language isn't that french/english |
| 22:32.17 | PrinceAMD | u wont make it in time GPLGEEK |
| 22:32.22 | PrinceAMD | ENGLISH |
| 22:32.39 | PrinceAMD | but u can go about talking BLAH no one will look at u |
| 22:32.41 | wasynyt | nah he will get a fast plane |
| 22:32.54 | wasynyt | huh odd country |
| 22:33.25 | PrinceAMD | infact i like any girl once she HOT!!! |
| 22:33.34 | PrinceAMD | once she can light my eyes on FIRE! |
| 22:33.34 | wasynyt | nah i will get sleep |
| 22:33.44 | wasynyt | good night people |
| 22:33.52 | GPLGeek | this girl i'm trying to go out with is japaneese |
| 22:33.58 | PrinceAMD | good night wasynyt i'll drink some beer for yah |
| 22:34.03 | GPLGeek | she's pretty hot |
| 22:34.17 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, :D damn i'm happy/ proud of you |
| 22:34.30 | PrinceAMD | once i had a chinese girl over here cooking for me was THE BEST DAY EVER!!! |
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| 22:41.33 | GPLGeek | princeAMD She makes a awesome steak |
| 22:41.54 | GPLGeek | I think a girl likes ya when she brings you steak at work |
| 22:42.27 | GPLGeek | im on the phone with her right now. Her father wants to meet me. |
| 22:43.24 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 22:43.25 | PrinceAMD | awesome |
| 22:44.03 | GPLGeek | culturally that's a good sign |
| 22:45.05 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 22:45.10 | PrinceAMD | y did u say that? |
| 22:45.17 | GPLGeek | well.. |
| 22:45.17 | PrinceAMD | this girl calls me every night |
| 22:45.25 | PrinceAMD | we talk over 5hrs every night |
| 22:46.02 | GPLGeek | in Japaneese culture the father is to approve of a guy before a date. |
| 22:46.13 | GPLGeek | so this would be that chance. |
| 22:46.19 | PrinceAMD | oh,,, |
| 22:46.26 | PrinceAMD | are u scared? |
| 22:46.51 | GPLGeek | not at all |
| 22:46.54 | GPLGeek | why would I be? |
| 22:47.08 | PrinceAMD | rejected? |
| 22:47.12 | PrinceAMD | if he says no |
| 22:47.22 | GPLGeek | You can't fear stuff like that |
| 22:47.39 | GPLGeek | the fear is the cause of most rejection, or the cause of people not actually getting things done. |
| 22:48.04 | PrinceAMD_1 | true |
| 22:48.17 | PrinceAMD_1 | but still no one can really over come fear |
| 22:48.29 | GPLGeek | I can go into any situation and leave any reasonable person with a smile and trust. |
| 22:48.44 | PrinceAMD | cool |
| 22:48.56 | PrinceAMD | i cant |
| 22:49.02 | PrinceAMD | i dont like talking to ppl much |
| 22:49.28 | PrinceAMD | but that's childish |
| 22:50.02 | GPLGeek | What is fear? Fear is a reaction to potential pain. |
| 22:50.25 | GPLGeek | A reflex which is bound to physical and emotional status. |
| 22:50.43 | PrinceAMD | true |
| 22:50.50 | PrinceAMD | but how to over come it? |
| 22:50.53 | GPLGeek | however I don't really care what people think unless they are willing to respect me. |
| 22:51.03 | GPLGeek | so there is no fear of rejection. |
| 22:51.09 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 22:53.01 | GPLGeek | there is a girl across the street and up a few houses I've only met once, when her house was broken into and the police were swarming her house. She never goes out, or does anything. She's got a job where she doesn't have to deal with anyone other than her boss which almost never talks to her. |
| 22:53.14 | GPLGeek | she has no friends because she is affraid that she will be rejected |
| 22:53.34 | GPLGeek | she doesnt want to go out or do anything because she wonders how the public thinks she looks. |
| 22:53.52 | GPLGeek | if you say you can never overcome fear that she is doomed! |
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| 22:54.20 | Elive_user | hi... I haven't been able to get onto the elivecd.org website and wanted to know if there's a cdemu module? |
| 22:54.26 | PrinceAMD | that's true |
| 22:54.35 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user, the site it down :( |
| 22:54.50 | Elive_user | ah.. so it's not just me.. whew. any news on it? |
| 22:54.51 | GPLGeek | elivedev.org <- new site for forums/announcements until thana comes back and fixes elivecd.org |
| 22:55.01 | Elive_user | ahhh.. thank you |
| 22:55.11 | Elive_user | any ideas on cdemu? |
| 22:55.19 | GPLGeek | one minute please |
| 22:55.22 | Elive_user | k |
| 22:56.20 | GPLGeek | are you mounting bin/cue or just iso? |
| 22:57.23 | GPLGeek | sudo mount -o loop name.iso /path/to/mount |
| 22:57.23 | Elive_user | mount a mdf/mds |
| 22:57.28 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 22:57.40 | Elive_user | tried mdf2iso but still won't mount |
| 22:57.54 | Elive_user | says something about no directory |
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| 22:59.22 | GPLGeek | I don't think it comes with elive by default but an installed elive has headers and source for the kernel |
| 22:59.32 | GPLGeek | (except for the .18) |
| 22:59.36 | GPLGeek | and you can build it |
| 22:59.50 | Elive_user | oh really? |
| 23:00.10 | Elive_user | sweet |
| 23:00.37 | GPLGeek | http://robert.private.outertech.com/virtualcd/cdemu-0.7.tar.bz2 is the version that works in elive |
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| 23:00.48 | GPLGeek | er |
| 23:00.50 | GPLGeek | sorry wrong link |
| 23:00.55 | GPLGeek | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cdemu/cdemu-0.8.tar.bz2 |
| 23:01.14 | Elive_user | sorry, I haven't used linux in so long, where is the kernel headers source? |
| 23:01.56 | GPLGeek | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 23:02.02 | GPLGeek | do that as super user |
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| 23:02.26 | Elive_user | cool, thanks for the help =) I think I should be able to figure out the rest |
| 23:02.39 | GPLGeek | ya it has good documentation |
| 23:03.07 | GPLGeek | Have fun! |
| 23:05.09 | GPLGeek | tar xjf cdemu-0.8.tar.bz2 , by the way |
| 23:05.16 | GPLGeek | in case you didn't know on the top of your head |
| 23:06.39 | GPLGeek | sudo ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build && sudo make && sudeo make install && sudo modprobe cdemu && sudo scite /etc/modules |
| 23:06.56 | GPLGeek | add cdemu to the modules file |
| 23:07.33 | GPLGeek | or actually you could have echo'd it sudo echo cdemu >> /etc/modules |
| 23:07.42 | Elive_user | cool, thanks again =) I'll save this conversation for when I get back |
| 23:08.23 | GPLGeek | note |
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