00:00.37 | GPLGeek | it seems to work flawlessly |
00:00.51 | Toothpick | I've got something wrong then on this lappy instal. |
00:01.05 | Toothpick | You installed from livecd? |
00:01.20 | GPLGeek | ya |
00:01.31 | Toothpick | Thanks for taking the time to check. |
00:02.08 | Toothpick | I'm thinking of just installing testing and reading some faqs on getting e working, it's just so polished already with the elive cd. |
00:02.11 | GPLGeek | let me also update with tests branch |
00:03.02 | GPLGeek | well apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and see if that fixes it |
00:03.18 | Toothpick | fixes it? or breaks it? |
00:03.29 | GPLGeek | well, there are new packages every day |
00:03.35 | Toothpick | True |
00:04.05 | GPLGeek | if you just install rl2 from the cd to your hard drive, and apt-get install democracyplayer it will work |
00:04.10 | GPLGeek | on ati and nvidia systems |
00:04.34 | GPLGeek | right now im testing the "tests" which is latest version of elive components |
00:04.55 | trog | who maintains the tests repo ? |
00:05.02 | GPLGeek | thanatermesis |
00:05.04 | Toothpick | I did install from rl2 to the hd and did apt-get install democracyplayer and I get python errors |
00:05.38 | GPLGeek | did you check your cd first for errors? |
00:05.50 | Toothpick | Traceback (most recent call last): |
00:05.51 | Toothpick | <PROTECTED> |
00:05.51 | Toothpick | <PROTECTED> |
00:06.02 | Toothpick | That I did no do GPLGeek |
00:06.20 | Toothpick | I am on that machine right now though...I guess it is possible everything seems to work but one thing. |
00:06.38 | Toothpick | Well actually I did because on the install the program checks the cd on its own. |
00:06.42 | GPLGeek | give me a minute |
00:07.05 | Toothpick | Unpacking democracyplayer (from .../democracyplayer_0.9.1-1_i386.deb) ... |
00:07.05 | Toothpick | Setting up democracyplayer-data (0.9.1-1) ... |
00:07.05 | Toothpick | Setting up democracyplayer (0.9.1-1) ... |
00:07.10 | Toothpick | That's the versoin |
00:08.58 | GPLGeek | why dont we just download the 9.2 source tarball and compile it? |
00:09.45 | Toothpick | I'd be content with the .9.1 if it was working on the alppy |
00:09.55 | GPLGeek | Toothpick, oh its not a elive problem |
00:10.10 | Elive | omg |
00:10.15 | Elive | i have to change my nick |
00:10.17 | Elive | :p |
00:10.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
00:10.23 | GPLGeek | there are a few problems with how demo calls things. |
00:10.46 | Toothpick | GPLGeek, something is strange though (not with elive) that it is working for you but not me. |
00:11.10 | LinuxNIT | Toothpick: did you run apt-get update? |
00:11.27 | Toothpick | I have run it LinuxNIT |
00:11.30 | Dartho | done |
00:11.33 | Dartho | :p |
00:11.51 | GPLGeek | im watching a video right now with it |
00:12.05 | Toothpick | I'm not sure if I ran it the first time I did apt-get install democracyplayer but I'm confident I did because I don't think it would have known it existed unless the live cd keeps a cache of packages available. |
00:12.10 | LinuxNIT | what is the next line in the error msg after import gtcache |
00:12.33 | Toothpick | <PROTECTED> |
00:12.33 | Toothpick | <PROTECTED> |
00:13.01 | GPLGeek | ya thats a problem if the version of democracy |
00:13.04 | LinuxNIT | put the whole thing in pastebin.ca |
00:13.16 | LinuxNIT | a coding error some where |
00:13.49 | GPLGeek | its a known issue |
00:14.03 | GPLGeek | which is why we need to compile from source |
00:14.14 | LinuxNIT | compile python? |
00:14.21 | GPLGeek | http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/ upper right hand corner |
00:14.25 | GPLGeek | no democracy |
00:14.37 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, these are all "known issues" of the video player |
00:14.40 | Toothpick | http://pastebin.ca/309798 |
00:14.51 | LinuxNIT | ok but you dont compile python |
00:14.55 | LinuxNIT | ok but you dont compile python programs |
00:15.20 | LinuxNIT | least not that i know of |
00:15.26 | GPLGeek | well |
00:15.45 | GPLGeek | the cached news letter said you need to "build from source" |
00:16.08 | Toothpick | Well does it make any sense that it is working on your machine and not mine GPLGeek ? |
00:16.18 | GPLGeek | yes |
00:16.23 | GPLGeek | my machine is better |
00:16.31 | GPLGeek | and has magical powers |
00:16.34 | GPLGeek | everyone knows that |
00:16.37 | LinuxNIT | lol |
00:16.54 | GPLGeek | You'd think people would learn..... ffs |
00:17.21 | GPLGeek | what exactly are you doing when this error occurs |
00:17.27 | GPLGeek | and what TYPE of movie are you dealing with |
00:17.35 | Toothpick | it never loads on the laptop |
00:17.40 | GPLGeek | wow |
00:17.43 | Toothpick | it just has that error message visit the link you'll see |
00:17.55 | GPLGeek | I think it may have been a PEBKAC |
00:18.14 | Toothpick | and another thing I can[t believe chromium is gone...that was always my first install to test opengl |
00:18.43 | GPLGeek | heck, it even works in vmware |
00:21.13 | GPLGeek | http://elivedev.org/demo.jpg |
00:21.20 | GPLGeek | it even works in vmware with no lag |
00:21.22 | GPLGeek | or problems |
00:21.53 | GPLGeek | i guess he didnt mean rebuild from source he just meant install from source |
00:22.06 | GPLGeek | and btw, you can compile python ive done it |
00:22.49 | GPLGeek | Toothpick, just wondering, if using or not using su command before running the player changes the outcome |
00:23.21 | GPLGeek | i wonder if some permissions problem happened somewhere |
00:23.34 | Toothpick | GPLGeek, no |
00:24.18 | GPLGeek | ok then, you should try to reinstall elive and then install demo player again |
00:24.32 | GPLGeek | because it works on my ati, nvidia, and vmware systems no problems |
00:24.46 | Toothpick | maybe I'll just change all my sources to unstable and do an apt-get dist-upgrade |
00:24.50 | GPLGeek | and it seems most those issues were cleared up by this version |
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00:31.51 | Toothpick | this will probably break my sytem, but oh well, nothing needed that isn't on the /home partition anywho. |
00:40.08 | Toothpick | gnight all |
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00:49.53 | Toothpick | Well the sid upgrade worked, but democracy player still fails |
00:49.54 | Toothpick | oh well |
00:50.07 | Toothpick | I'll try dist-upgrade now |
00:51.09 | Toothpick | I'll see if source for .92 works |
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02:06.36 | LinuxNIT-II | hey revdjenk |
02:07.26 | revdjenk | hey need some quick help... reverted to .5 and login won't recognize user/pswd... what is that trick again? |
02:07.44 | LinuxNIT-II | can you log in as root? |
02:08.09 | revdjenk | yes, I am in xchat as root even! |
02:08.15 | LinuxNIT-II | ack |
02:08.16 | revdjenk | hee hee |
02:08.21 | LinuxNIT-II | ok open terminal |
02:08.23 | revdjenk | the only way to do it |
02:08.25 | revdjenk | yep |
02:08.30 | LinuxNIT-II | run: passwd username |
02:09.23 | revdjenk | says unknown passwd |
02:09.32 | revdjenk | sorry unknown user |
02:09.54 | LinuxNIT-II | well then when you reinstalled you must have typed the username wrong |
02:09.59 | LinuxNIT-II | open users-admin |
02:10.16 | revdjenk | k |
02:10.46 | revdjenk | ready |
02:10.56 | LinuxNIT-II | is your username in there? |
02:11.04 | revdjenk | blank, all blank |
02:11.27 | LinuxNIT-II | that could be a problem |
02:11.28 | revdjenk | goto add user |
02:11.34 | LinuxNIT-II | sounds like a plan |
02:11.41 | revdjenk | remember going from .6 back to .5 |
02:12.07 | revdjenk | k |
02:13.32 | revdjenk | let me get out of this and try on the non-root side |
02:13.47 | LinuxNIT-II | k |
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02:14.57 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT-II, you a the caped crusader! |
02:15.01 | revdjenk | yippee |
02:15.04 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
02:15.05 | revdjenk | back in... |
02:15.11 | revdjenk | I wrote that all down |
02:15.25 | revdjenk | I'm going back to .5 to regain wireless... |
02:15.30 | revdjenk | :( |
02:16.10 | revdjenk | You should go to the bug report #56 or 57 and see my trouble with v.5.1 thru .6 and wireless |
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02:23.59 | revduhjenk | LinuxNIT-II, back and on wireless |
02:24.02 | revduhjenk | :) |
02:24.11 | LinuxNIT-II | nice isnt it |
02:24.12 | revduhjenk | that simple |
02:24.14 | revduhjenk | yep |
02:24.29 | revduhjenk | took about three times through the activator though |
02:25.27 | revduhjenk | but I can wander again... pooh, but I had a few other niceties w/.6 that I was diggin' ... like the touchpad scroll edge was working |
02:25.40 | revduhjenk | but I can wander again... pooh, but I had a few other niceties w/.6 that I was diggin' ... like the touchpad scroll edge was working |
02:25.57 | revduhjenk | whoa, that wuz weird |
02:26.19 | revduhjenk | but alas, no audio...again |
02:26.50 | LinuxNIT-II | you can add the scroll function to your xorg.conf |
02:26.58 | revduhjenk | ah |
02:27.41 | revduhjenk | I am sure YOU could... hee hee |
02:28.04 | LinuxNIT-II | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad |
02:28.21 | revduhjenk | gentoo wiki? |
02:28.32 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah why not? |
02:28.37 | revduhjenk | heh |
02:28.40 | LinuxNIT-II | gentoo has great documentation |
02:28.43 | LinuxNIT-II | its all linux |
02:28.44 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
02:28.47 | revduhjenk | :) |
02:29.08 | revduhjenk | huh, just d/l esound mixer and sound!!! |
02:29.27 | revduhjenk | well, maybe not |
02:29.27 | LinuxNIT-II | only part you really need to look at is the Section "Input device" |
02:29.33 | LinuxNIT-II | and see the options |
02:30.38 | revduhjenk | i guess they WOULD need good docs, to get gentoo working! |
02:30.46 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
02:31.22 | revduhjenk | in my frustration, I was looking at sabayon and korarra... at least they have installers |
02:31.56 | LinuxNIT-II | so does gentoo |
02:31.59 | LinuxNIT-II | its called the user |
02:32.09 | revduhjenk | this is weird, I have xmms working, but the elpanel doesn't do the 'elive' thing |
02:32.22 | revduhjenk | hee hee 'called the user' |
02:33.19 | revduhjenk | <LinuxNIT-II> its called the user |
02:33.26 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
02:33.32 | revduhjenk | hey, just learned how to do that!!!! |
02:33.36 | revduhjenk | midd click |
02:33.38 | revduhjenk | duh |
02:34.05 | LinuxNIT-II | you can do it with a two finger tap on your touchpad too |
02:34.40 | revduhjenk | nah, now it isn't working |
02:34.54 | LinuxNIT-II | what isnt |
02:35.13 | revduhjenk | <LinuxNIT-II> what isnt |
02:35.28 | LinuxNIT-II | <revduhjenk> <LinuxNIT-II> what isnt |
02:35.30 | revduhjenk | nah, double tap doesn't work for me |
02:35.40 | revduhjenk | <LinuxNIT-II> <revduhjenk> <LinuxNIT-II> what isnt |
02:35.40 | LinuxNIT-II | no not double tap |
02:35.47 | LinuxNIT-II | its not a double tap |
02:35.54 | LinuxNIT-II | its a two-finger tap |
02:36.01 | LinuxNIT-II | two fingers at the same time |
02:36.40 | revduhjenk | nope |
02:37.08 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah it does |
02:37.14 | LinuxNIT-II | you just need to practive |
02:37.17 | LinuxNIT-II | you just need to practice |
02:37.19 | revduhjenk | unless you mean both 'buttons' at the same time |
02:37.25 | LinuxNIT-II | takes a bit to get the hang of it |
02:37.28 | revduhjenk | oh, no!!! more practice |
02:37.34 | LinuxNIT-II | but once you do its pretty easy |
02:37.59 | LinuxNIT-II | so hit the pad with your pointer finger and middle finger at exactly the same time ;) |
02:38.41 | revduhjenk | I'm going to wear this thing out! |
02:38.42 | LinuxNIT-II | that and the simulteneous left and right click and the middle click are all the same |
02:38.45 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
02:39.00 | revduhjenk | I'll stick to the buttons |
02:39.00 | LinuxNIT-II | dont HIT!!! it just a light tap ;) |
02:39.07 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
02:39.36 | LinuxNIT-II | once you get that down move to the three-finger tap (3 fingers at the same time) for a right click ;) |
02:39.40 | LinuxNIT-II | :-D |
02:39.53 | revduhjenk | I'm doing a one-finger tap...right now |
02:39.58 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
02:40.13 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
02:40.36 | revduhjenk | you highlight first, of course, right? |
02:40.47 | LinuxNIT-II | yes |
02:41.20 | LinuxNIT-II | you can do that by doing a "double tap"(two taps in a row) and holding the last one. |
02:41.26 | revduhjenk | nah, I'll ahve to keep practicing... |
02:41.30 | LinuxNIT-II | then moving the cursor |
02:43.35 | revduhjenk | I'd rather compile gentoo, than keep doing this!!! |
02:44.12 | revduhjenk | maybe, it is the synaptic driver update that I need |
02:44.14 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
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02:45.52 | revduhjenk | well, I'm going to go reclaim and reset all my apps... and go rooting around /root hee hee |
02:46.01 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
02:46.12 | revduhjenk | thnx for all the help...and I'll see you later.... |
02:46.41 | LinuxNIT-II | laters |
02:46.53 | revduhjenk | God Bless |
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03:08.15 | elmo44 | glad_2b_elive: you glad? |
03:08.24 | glad_2b_elive | you bet |
03:09.13 | glad_2b_elive | how bout you ... happy? |
03:10.19 | glad_2b_elive | I've been playing with the new Dream Linux |
03:10.51 | glad_2b_elive | its not that great |
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03:24.34 | glad_2b_elive | gee ... I think it worked ... got xchat to work through tor |
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03:51.56 | elmo44 | tor? |
03:52.08 | elmo44 | wtf is Dream Linux? |
03:55.13 | glad_2b_elive | tor = anonymous proxy and Dream is another distro |
03:55.45 | elmo44 | ah, tor... the 'onion' thing? |
03:55.46 | elmo44 | ;) |
03:55.54 | glad_2b_elive | thats it |
03:55.58 | elmo44 | and dream is brazilian based, i dont speak portugues ;) |
03:56.11 | glad_2b_elive | ya ... it is |
03:56.21 | glad_2b_elive | not near as nice as elive |
03:56.46 | glad_2b_elive | elive is made in Quebec isn't it? |
03:56.47 | elmo44 | it has morphix in it... |
03:56.58 | elmo44 | umm, not that i know of. |
03:56.59 | glad_2b_elive | yes |
03:57.22 | elmo44 | dream uses xfce, not bad choice ;) |
03:57.55 | glad_2b_elive | it has some interesting stuff. I may play with the distro builder sometime |
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04:07.55 | elmo44 | anyone use irssi? if so, then you may also like weechat http://weechat.flashtux.org/ |
04:08.41 | glad_2b_elive | how do I mount other partitions in elive? I'm not sure I'm using the mounter unmounter tool right |
04:08.44 | Elive_user53 | i played with dream last night. i like xfce. what other distros use xfce by default? is engage part of xfce? |
04:09.03 | Elive_user53 | xubuntu? |
04:09.03 | elmo44 | xfld uses xfce |
04:09.18 | glad_2b_elive | zenwalk |
04:09.47 | glad_2b_elive | zenwalk is cool but like any slack wireless support sucks |
04:10.13 | Elive_user53 | i'm wired, so no prob there |
04:10.44 | glad_2b_elive | i'm only wireless so this limits me in distro choices |
04:11.09 | glad_2b_elive | fedora and its offspring do not work either |
04:11.18 | Elive_user53 | ouch |
04:11.54 | glad_2b_elive | slack and fedora just don't care about wireless |
04:12.14 | glad_2b_elive | mandriva dosn't support wireless in the free versions either |
04:12.52 | elmo44 | i know what you mean |
04:12.59 | Elive_user53 | wow, that is limited. i never realized |
04:13.00 | elmo44 | seems like wifi is only for the limited!! |
04:13.03 | elmo44 | what wifi card? |
04:13.46 | glad_2b_elive | I've got a dlink with the artheros chip |
04:14.06 | elmo44 | so the madwifi driver should work... MANY distros offer that support!! |
04:15.00 | elmo44 | ever try MEPIS ? |
04:15.30 | glad_2b_elive | mepis works fine |
04:15.39 | glad_2b_elive | kanotix and pclos work fine |
04:15.43 | glad_2b_elive | elive works fine |
04:16.28 | glad_2b_elive | kanotix is nice ... anyone using the newest beta? Its fast for kde |
04:18.02 | glad_2b_elive | trouble with only having wireless ... its hard to use a package mangager to install madwifi , ndswrapper etc |
04:19.03 | glad_2b_elive | sure ... i could download the packages and install them separately from a nother distro |
04:19.13 | glad_2b_elive | but what a pain |
04:20.45 | glad_2b_elive | sometimes you just want stuff to work. I can remember when nvidia driver installs were a nightmare ... now they are easy in most distros |
04:21.25 | elmo44 | true |
04:21.46 | elmo44 | eLive, and older MEPIS 3.4 were the only ones that had ipw2200 working! |
04:22.53 | glad_2b_elive | I've always liked Mepis. I always install the new versions. |
04:23.47 | glad_2b_elive | i think pclos is coming out with something surprising soon too |
04:24.15 | glad_2b_elive | they've been working on a new release for months and its top secret |
04:24.33 | Elive_user53 | cool, can't wait for that |
04:27.12 | glad_2b_elive | yep ... its good fun trying all these out |
04:27.44 | glad_2b_elive | my first distro was Mandrake 8.0 |
04:28.52 | glad_2b_elive | i even bought the boxed version ... and I stupidly through out everything when we moved ... dumb ... could have been a collectors item someday |
04:30.30 | glad_2b_elive | I installed that thing about 10 times before I got it to work |
04:31.18 | GPLGeek | glad_2b_elive, I used to develop for mandrake/mandriva community |
04:31.36 | glad_2b_elive | wow .... good to meet you |
04:31.42 | GPLGeek | mandrake/mandriva project was mad at me because I made a updater and repositories that made the free version work better than the paid version |
04:31.54 | glad_2b_elive | oh no |
04:31.57 | GPLGeek | I dislike dealing with rpm's |
04:32.01 | GPLGeek | Debian is better |
04:32.24 | glad_2b_elive | debian works the best for me ... at least ... its offspring |
04:32.35 | GPLGeek | I started with slack, tried redhat didnt like it, mandrake/mandriva didnt like the fact that I offered my repositories for the software in rpm and deb |
04:33.22 | glad_2b_elive | mandriva is pretty commercial ... don't really blame them for trying to make a buck |
04:33.49 | GPLGeek | I've been all around, I even had a gentoo server for 2 years until it cought fire at a friends house, he then threw it out the window.... I dont know how he did that but... |
04:34.32 | glad_2b_elive | lol ... now gentoo is something else ... I have no luck with that beast ... I'm just not savvy enough for gentoo and slack |
04:34.43 | GPLGeek | I think its essential that some firms offer media-enabled licenced versions of linux, with full support packages, just to satisfy the corporate |
04:35.05 | glad_2b_elive | for sure |
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04:39.30 | glad_2b_elive | My boss is quite computer savvy as far as windows goes ... I was surprised to hear him say he had a copy of linux to try out ... I think the financial advantages intrigue him |
04:43.37 | Elive_user53 | i'm slowly drifting away from my favorite message board because i can't get the folks to stop drinking that microsoft kool-aid. |
04:43.54 | Elive_user53 | i need new friends, looool. |
04:44.19 | glad_2b_elive | i know what you mean ... if I mention linux to anyone I know ... they glaze over |
04:44.46 | Elive_user53 | they really are poisioned |
04:45.22 | glad_2b_elive | its just ignorance. They think linux is for the ultimate geek or its black magic ... |
04:46.13 | PrinceAMD | true |
04:46.58 | Elive_user53 | i even told them that i would send them cd's out of my pocket. it would only cost me a few cents for the cd |
04:47.23 | PrinceAMD | and? |
04:47.31 | Elive_user53 | no takers |
04:47.41 | glad_2b_elive | its sad. |
04:48.06 | PrinceAMD | i was like that once |
04:48.10 | glad_2b_elive | I've not had one convert in over 6 years of linux |
04:48.13 | PrinceAMD | talking up about windows |
04:48.39 | PrinceAMD | but it keeps crashing and i hated that, and it uses alot of memory for no good reason |
04:49.13 | PrinceAMD | elive uses like 70MB ram on load up with e17 , windows xp uses over 120MB and still runs slower |
04:49.40 | Elive_user53 | i hope they all buy new machines for that vista crapware so i can buy up all the old machines, looool |
04:49.41 | PrinceAMD | e17 is more eye candy tons of morer features than windows shell |
04:49.53 | glad_2b_elive | my neighbours machine crashed because of virus ... I think ... he reformatted and lost invaluble photos. I told him to have a data partition or to dual boot linux and he said he dosn't like partiions .. lol |
04:49.54 | PrinceAMD | :) |
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04:52.02 | glad_2b_elive | isn't that something ... I just shut up |
04:54.20 | glad_2b_elive | I used to think that would be a nice retirement hobby ... installing linux for people ... and helping them out just for something to do but I doubt it now. |
04:54.21 | PrinceAMD | lol |
04:55.15 | glad_2b_elive | even my own wife rolls her eyes when I start talking linux ... LOL |
04:55.55 | PrinceAMD | lol, same here with my GF she says i'm attached and needs to spend less time with it |
04:56.08 | PrinceAMD | i was like PAUSE!!!....... she didnt say that |
04:56.13 | glad_2b_elive | and I even catch her in Xp sometimes and I've warned her its going to go permanently if she screws it up |
04:56.37 | glad_2b_elive | oh no ... did she |
04:57.15 | glad_2b_elive | you got to find a linux girl ... lots of luck there |
04:57.51 | glad_2b_elive | I told my wife I wished I had someone to talk to about my interests |
04:57.59 | PrinceAMD | yes but a linux girl might be too advanced for me she might know more commands than me and that might some times turn me on and piss me off |
04:58.06 | PrinceAMD | LOL!!! |
04:58.09 | elmo44 | i dropped off a couple discs at LinuxCaffe ;) |
04:58.17 | glad_2b_elive | LOL ... LOL |
04:58.32 | glad_2b_elive | did you elmo ... were they happy? |
04:58.47 | elmo44 | ya, i guess |
04:58.54 | glad_2b_elive | cool |
04:59.15 | glad_2b_elive | hold it ... linuxcaffe? |
04:59.35 | glad_2b_elive | now that is something different |
04:59.46 | elmo44 | in toronto |
04:59.54 | elmo44 | linuxcaffe.org or soemthing |
05:00.00 | glad_2b_elive | right on |
05:01.05 | PrinceAMD | i took debian to my last work place, and installed it, they guy was afraid of GRUB |
05:01.24 | glad_2b_elive | LOL ... he thought grub was a worm ...LOL |
05:01.37 | PrinceAMD | he just sit there and watch it time up and load linux and reboot the pc all day |
05:02.36 | PrinceAMD | so i had to remove it |
05:02.46 | glad_2b_elive | oops ... I've got to run along ... early morns for me ... c yall tomorrow |
05:03.54 | PrinceAMD | elmo44, how is everything |
05:07.36 | elmo44 | PrinceAMD: not bad |
05:07.40 | elmo44 | afraid of grub?? |
05:10.36 | PrinceAMD | yes they were |
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05:32.01 | elmo44 | superkido? |
05:32.33 | elmo44 | apt time |
05:32.43 | apt | 2007.01.08 5:32:43 GMT |
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06:57.15 | sekoica_ | where download Elive Elive_Revolution_rl2.iso |
06:57.17 | sekoica_ | ? |
06:57.24 | sekoica_ | from fast network |
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08:21.15 | wizard123 | hi all |
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10:06.08 | SuperpeZ | Buenos dias |
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11:08.10 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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12:25.11 | Elive_user48 | hy |
12:25.23 | Elive_user48 | hi |
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13:04.35 | Pacma | uno se marcha a comer |
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13:06.58 | SuperpeZ | yo tambien Pacma |
13:07.00 | SuperpeZ | que aproveche |
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13:33.51 | Detox | hey roxville! |
13:33.54 | Detox | morniong |
13:33.58 | Detox | morning |
13:36.38 | roxville | hey Detox how are ya? |
13:36.55 | Detox | gonna be busy in an a few |
13:36.57 | Detox | at wrok |
13:37.08 | Detox | but would you have some time later? |
13:37.52 | roxville | lol, someone saw a man mistreat his dog in sweden, but leaving him outside day and night, rain or shine...and told the authorities about it |
13:38.20 | roxville | so they called him...and...it was a porcelain dog :D |
13:38.27 | Detox | ha |
13:38.50 | Detox | poor porcelain dog |
13:38.57 | roxville | Detox, i don't know at this time... my wife is off work today, and...i can't promise anything... :/ |
13:39.04 | Detox | no prob |
13:39.10 | roxville | sorry :/ |
13:39.23 | Detox | jsut needed to know about the remote desktop on elpanel |
13:39.42 | roxville | the app is called x11vnc |
13:40.02 | Detox | how to configure it and exactly how it works ,, can it be ued wioth gnome remote desktop and when connectioin is broken remotely can you re log in later? |
13:40.09 | roxville | that's all i know |
13:40.12 | Detox | k |
13:40.54 | roxville | so look up x11vnc on sourceforge or something |
13:44.42 | Detox | good deal thanks |
13:44.45 | roxville | hehe, bill gates held a key note at CES in las vegas... the audience had to be TOLD to applaud! |
13:44.47 | Detox | you are swell!! |
13:45.00 | roxville | swell... hehe :) |
13:49.17 | Detox | found the docs |
13:49.20 | Detox | yahoooooo |
13:49.26 | Detox | now I can begin my day |
13:49.37 | Detox | probation assessments will now begin |
13:49.41 | Detox | cya later |
13:50.02 | roxville | ok dude, be good! :) |
13:50.48 | roxville | Rumored topic of the Dell keynote: “Dell’s desktops—now more beige than ever!” |
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13:55.21 | Elive_user1 | Holaaa... |
13:55.39 | Elive_user1 | Que hay de bueno? |
13:56.19 | Elive_user1 | Hay alguien? |
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14:01.08 | Detox | hey roxville!!!!!!! |
14:01.39 | Detox | can u c meee? |
14:02.41 | Detox | can anyone see meee? |
14:03.11 | roxville | Detox, i see you |
14:03.18 | Detox | yahooooooooo |
14:03.23 | roxville | lol |
14:03.25 | Detox | you are the guy!!!!!! |
14:03.38 | roxville | why? |
14:03.40 | Detox | I am sitting two miles away from my pc |
14:03.41 | trog | happy new year :D |
14:03.48 | Detox | and typing this remotely |
14:03.54 | roxville | oh wow, cool! |
14:04.15 | roxville | <Detox> I am sitting two miles away from my brain |
14:04.24 | roxville | hmmm... |
14:04.28 | Detox | bcause,,, You, yes YOU were able to assist in the correct vnc stuff |
14:04.35 | trog | telepathy ? telekinezy ? |
14:04.45 | trog | oh...vnc :D my bad |
14:04.49 | roxville | or just vnc |
14:04.55 | roxville | hehe |
14:05.26 | Detox | I am on my win xp laptop, using the vnc you told me, and logged in to my Elive PC |
14:05.36 | Detox | and voil'a !!!!! |
14:05.45 | Detox | boy am I excited |
14:05.54 | Detox | have been struggling for a week on this |
14:06.14 | Detox | and in 46 seconds, you provide the wisdom to fix |
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14:06.44 | Detox | got to go,,,, first clietn is in |
14:07.04 | Detox | thanks a BIG BIG Thanks |
14:07.04 | trog | :) |
14:07.18 | Detox | signing off remote |
14:07.24 | roxville | ok :) |
14:12.48 | roxville | ok i gotta dig in on the laundry... afk |
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14:54.30 | PrinceAMD | good morning to all |
14:58.55 | trog | 'morning |
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15:00.24 | PrinceAMD | trog, how are you? |
15:01.25 | trog | very happy these days :) |
15:01.40 | trog | started working again .... |
15:01.57 | PrinceAMD | :) |
15:05.14 | trog | check this out :) http://www.linux.edu/~trog/s0.jpg |
15:06.15 | PrinceAMD | ok |
15:06.44 | PrinceAMD | nice :) |
15:06.59 | PrinceAMD | animated desktop and so on |
15:07.35 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=2 check that trog |
15:07.42 | trog | yea :) its the one i like the best (its more like a subliminal animation), and it goes well with the theme |
15:08.23 | PrinceAMD | ok |
15:09.12 | Gwildor | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=2&sort_mode=created_desc&desp=1&offset=0&imageId=4 |
15:09.16 | Gwildor | ^^ what theme is this? |
15:09.38 | PrinceAMD | the Dark Theme i created |
15:09.46 | PrinceAMD | more like dark/red |
15:10.04 | Gwildor | oooh.. |
15:10.08 | Gwildor | is it hard to make themes? |
15:10.17 | Gwildor | you turn off "drop shadow" module? |
15:10.18 | Gwildor | ? |
15:10.28 | PrinceAMD | yes i did |
15:10.31 | trog | very nice :D |
15:10.33 | PrinceAMD | it uses up cpu |
15:10.41 | trog | me too...same reason |
15:10.53 | PrinceAMD | themes are not that hard to make |
15:10.55 | trog | its an older laptop ... |
15:11.01 | PrinceAMD | those 2 took me like 2-3weeks |
15:11.33 | Gwildor | oh...wow |
15:11.35 | PrinceAMD | i rather the one for e17 0.16.999.026 is has more effects |
15:12.05 | PrinceAMD | that's the screenshot with amsn chat box |
15:12.45 | Gwildor | ahhh... |
15:12.48 | Gwildor | it looks nice... |
15:12.56 | PrinceAMD | yep |
15:13.08 | Gwildor | only thing i dont like is mac style buttons (on the left) |
15:13.13 | PrinceAMD | i have to create one about warsow for get |
15:13.24 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
15:13.24 | Gwildor | :P |
15:13.30 | PrinceAMD | u can put it to the right :) |
15:13.46 | Gwildor | yeah, i only like (button on left) if im actually using mac-os |
15:13.58 | Gwildor | ooh, how hard would that be? |
15:14.09 | PrinceAMD | not hard |
15:14.33 | PrinceAMD | just right click on the border and change the settings or go in configuration panel |
15:15.01 | PrinceAMD | configuration panel>appearance>border :D |
15:15.27 | Gwildor | oooooh :D |
15:15.34 | Gwildor | so.... can i get a copy? |
15:15.40 | Gwildor | OMFG! |
15:15.46 | PrinceAMD | yes sure let me upload it |
15:15.51 | Gwildor | was it you i was getting that .iso from? |
15:16.13 | PrinceAMD | yes |
15:16.22 | PrinceAMD | oh u can download it now sorry damn it |
15:16.27 | Gwildor | PC was off when i came in..... |
15:16.32 | Gwildor | what..you kill it? |
15:16.35 | PrinceAMD | no |
15:16.39 | PrinceAMD | i had black out |
15:16.43 | Gwildor | ahhh.. |
15:16.51 | Gwildor | dont worry about it.. ill grab it at a later date. |
15:16.53 | PrinceAMD | that happens some time here |
15:17.05 | Gwildor | well, im not sure why my PC was off either.. |
15:17.16 | PrinceAMD | ok |
15:17.28 | PrinceAMD | http://princeamd.gplgeek.com |
15:18.25 | PrinceAMD | http://princeamd.gplgeek.com:90/ |
15:18.33 | PrinceAMD | http://princeamd.gplgeek.com:90/files/ |
15:19.45 | PrinceAMD | trog, what version of e17 are u using |
15:20.27 | trog | .037 |
15:20.35 | PrinceAMD | trog, very nice |
15:20.54 | PrinceAMD | http://princeamd.gplgeek.com:90/files/e17-transparency0.4.4.deb download that |
15:21.11 | trog | i've used wm's back from kde1 ...this is what comes closest to what i understand by "desktop" ... |
15:21.36 | PrinceAMD | it will help you with transparency on eterm and xchat and other programs |
15:21.45 | trog | waw...thanks :) |
15:22.10 | Gwildor | The server at princeamd.gplgeek.com is taking too long to respond. |
15:22.13 | Gwildor | ...nvm |
15:22.23 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, http://princeamd.gplgeek.com:90/ |
15:22.30 | PrinceAMD | port 90 :) |
15:22.34 | Gwildor | yeah, got it now |
15:22.50 | Gwildor | umm, wich do i want? |
15:22.50 | PrinceAMD | cool |
15:23.02 | PrinceAMD | what version of e17 do u have? |
15:23.13 | Gwildor | 0.5.5 CD default |
15:23.32 | PrinceAMD | oh go in files\ darktheme-026 |
15:24.26 | Gwildor | :D |
15:24.28 | Gwildor | thnx man |
15:24.30 | PrinceAMD | trog, getting trough? |
15:25.02 | trog | have a dependency conflict...lineakd |
15:25.17 | PrinceAMD | yes |
15:25.18 | trog | will have to force it...1 sec |
15:25.26 | PrinceAMD | apt-get install lineakd |
15:25.39 | trog | thats where the conflict apperas :) |
15:26.07 | PrinceAMD | crap |
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15:27.01 | PrinceAMD | u need a file then xsendkeys |
15:27.05 | PrinceAMD | can i send u it ? |
15:27.16 | trog | i'll install it in a sec...its downloading right now ... |
15:27.26 | trog | lineakd i mean |
15:27.42 | Gwildor | brb..smokebreak |
15:27.50 | PrinceAMD | if xsendkeys is not in your system my program will now minimize your apps on desktop to take the screenshot |
15:27.57 | PrinceAMD | yes lineakd |
15:29.01 | trog | ok, got it installed |
15:29.12 | PrinceAMD | lineakd installed? |
15:29.59 | trog | yes...your package also |
15:30.02 | PrinceAMD | good |
15:30.25 | PrinceAMD | press alt+sec n type e17-trans2sec |
15:31.08 | PrinceAMD | it should minimize your windows take a shot then bring them up back |
15:31.22 | trog | i watched over it when i installed it ;) |
15:31.53 | PrinceAMD | click settings>preferences> and enable transparency background |
15:32.09 | PrinceAMD | did it work? |
15:33.49 | PrinceAMD | trog, http://www.linux.edu/ your site? |
15:33.57 | trog | 1 sec...housework around :) |
15:34.04 | trog | not my site...just have an account there |
15:34.09 | PrinceAMD | ok |
15:37.04 | trog | do i have to enable somewhere the module ? |
15:37.18 | PrinceAMD | no |
15:37.40 | PrinceAMD | it show up in your menu when u update it |
15:38.03 | PrinceAMD | there is also e17-transparency which u can put to run on start up |
15:38.17 | trog | it did (in xchat i mean), but it told me, "my wm is not capable of transparency" or something like that ... |
15:38.49 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
15:38.56 | trog | wait...my mistake :) dont have the trans.png file ... |
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15:39.54 | trog | ugh...food around :) i'll play with it later |
15:39.56 | trog | thanks :) |
15:40.08 | trog | brb |
15:40.13 | PrinceAMD | no problem |
15:40.13 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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15:52.19 | Gwildor | PrinceAMD, where do i put that theme? |
15:52.41 | elmo44 | ~/.e/e/themes |
15:52.48 | elmo44 | or somewhere like that ;) |
15:53.01 | Gwildor | alrighty, ty |
15:53.06 | elmo44 | np |
15:55.05 | Gwildor | ummmm.... |
15:55.24 | Gwildor | i opened a new terminal... and its showing the OLD BG for its transparency?!?!?!? |
15:57.53 | Gwildor | PrinceAMD, hmm, i can change the button location for the windows.....but, how do i make it default for the theme? |
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16:07.03 | trog | PrinceAMD are you still around ? |
16:10.51 | trog | PrinceAMD: dont forget to add scrot and giblib1 as dependencies to the package you sent me :) ...your scripts |
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16:12.20 | Gwildor | wow, TT is kinda fun... |
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16:13.27 | kender | hi |
16:14.47 | trog | hi |
16:15.23 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, i'm back |
16:15.29 | PrinceAMD | trog, i'm back |
16:15.51 | Gwildor | any idea how to "refresh" the transparent BG of my terminals? |
16:16.11 | PrinceAMD | no |
16:16.35 | PrinceAMD | maybe u can try running e17-trans2sec |
16:17.53 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, go to configuration panel > appearance > border set it to classic then restart e17 |
16:18.11 | PrinceAMD | left click > enlightenment > restart :) |
16:18.20 | PrinceAMD | and wa-la works great |
16:22.53 | Gwildor | arlight...TY |
16:23.00 | PrinceAMD | did it work?' |
16:24.21 | Gwildor | didnt try... 1 sec |
16:24.40 | Gwildor | nope |
16:24.43 | Gwildor | still old.. |
16:25.01 | PrinceAMD | works here |
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16:25.46 | PrinceAMD | wait a sec |
16:25.52 | PrinceAMD | u have elive 0.5.5 |
16:25.57 | PrinceAMD | with the normal e17 |
16:25.59 | PrinceAMD | shit |
16:26.04 | PrinceAMD | i dotn know if it works there |
16:26.06 | PrinceAMD | anyhow |
16:26.12 | PrinceAMD | i have to run |
16:26.14 | PrinceAMD | later guys |
16:26.41 | trog | later |
16:27.31 | Gwildor | laters PrinceAMD |
16:27.38 | Gwildor | yeah, i need/want to upgrade.. |
16:28.06 | trog | Gwildor: want me to tell you how to upgrade ? |
16:28.19 | Gwildor | trog, nah, im holding out a bit longer... as entrance is broken |
16:28.35 | trog | i can tell you how to fix entrance also |
16:28.43 | Gwildor | O_O |
16:28.47 | Gwildor | yes, plz :D |
16:29.00 | Gwildor | youve got time, and dont mind? |
16:29.12 | trog | sure |
16:29.23 | Gwildor | rdy when u are :D |
16:29.35 | trog | want me to tell you about entrance or upgrading ? |
16:29.54 | Gwildor | well, my entracne works.. |
16:30.13 | Gwildor | so, lets upgrade e, then fix entrance..... or fix entrance, then upgrade e.....whatever you want to do |
16:30.20 | trog | :) |
16:30.42 | trog | its not really a bug...rather a version conflict...anyway, upgrading needs to be done first |
16:31.05 | Gwildor | oh... yeah, i dont have details... roxville jstu says "wait a bit, its broken" :P |
16:31.08 | trog | do you know how to edit a file as root ? if yes, open /etc/apt/sources.list |
16:31.13 | Gwildor | yeah.. |
16:31.20 | Gwildor | i can handle all that.. |
16:31.45 | Gwildor | its open |
16:31.56 | trog | ok, there is a line, at the begining, which contains "vobcopy.org" and other "elive" stuff ....at the end of the line, add "tests" (without the quotes) ... |
16:32.14 | trog | then run (also as root) : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
16:32.19 | Detox | hello allo |
16:32.22 | Detox | all |
16:32.41 | Gwildor | trog, this will be a long process... |
16:33.00 | Gwildor | this is a default 0.5.5 install.... should we jut upgrade e, and ill do full system later? |
16:33.07 | Gwildor | apt-get update |
16:33.10 | Gwildor | oops :P |
16:33.33 | Gwildor | howdy detox |
16:33.44 | Detox | yes a big hello is at hand |
16:33.53 | Detox | Roxville has save the day!!! |
16:34.11 | Gwildor | what he do? |
16:34.31 | Detox | steered me to the answer for my remote access dilemma |
16:34.41 | Gwildor | ROXville did?!? |
16:34.53 | Detox | provided the name fo the file that runs remote desktop in elive |
16:34.55 | Gwildor | GO roxville ! |
16:34.59 | Detox | researched that |
16:34.59 | Gwildor | :D |
16:35.02 | Gwildor | what was the issue? |
16:35.17 | Detox | and guess what?? I can now use my elive pc remotely from win and linux |
16:35.37 | trog | Gwildor: i run upgrades every day...keeps you safer :) ..anyway, you can upgrade just the e17 module |
16:35.46 | trog | s/module/package |
16:35.50 | Gwildor | trog, imma jsut go do it all now... |
16:35.56 | Gwildor | wasnt THAT much |
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16:36.34 | Detox | I tried vncservdr , vnc4server, tightvnc ,, nutthing worked |
16:36.37 | trog | before you restart enlightenment ...remember to fix entrance...want to hear it now ? |
16:36.54 | Gwildor | trog, hmm, i need to do something really fast... |
16:37.02 | Gwildor | trog, can you wait.... 5 or 6 minutes? |
16:37.05 | Detox | then Roxville gave me a word of knowledge .....x11vnc |
16:37.06 | trog | i have time, ...sure |
16:37.13 | Gwildor | alright.. TY... BRB |
16:37.15 | Detox | whalla! works great |
16:37.16 | Gwildor | (im @ work) |
16:37.22 | Gwildor | Detox, SWEET |
16:37.35 | Gwildor | i may look into that too...BRB |
16:37.43 | Detox | yes very ,,, now I can move the server to it's rightfull place 3 hours away |
16:38.21 | Detox | oh hey ,,,, on the server ,,, I ahve elive ver 4 i think,,, |
16:38.38 | Detox | jsut did an update upgrade kerne 2.6.18 |
16:38.38 | roxville | <Gwildor> oh... yeah, i dont have details... roxville jstu says "wait a bit, its broken" :P |
16:38.46 | Detox | think I should do a dist-upgrade? |
16:38.54 | roxville | well, 10 second sessions is not fun... |
16:39.18 | roxville | but trog has a fix... so he says :) |
16:39.38 | Detox | and move to the 2.6.15 kernel? |
16:39.51 | trog | used it on 2 computers...and helped someone here :) |
16:39.56 | Detox | have duel intel cpu's and raid / sata drives |
16:39.57 | Gwildor | roxville, of couyrse not.... and ill be testing trog's fix shortly :D |
16:40.09 | roxville | ok, cool! |
16:40.15 | Gwildor | alright...BRB |
16:43.12 | Detox | I thought elive came with skype? |
16:43.30 | roxville | it may have... a while back |
16:43.38 | roxville | but it's proprietary code... |
16:43.55 | Detox | it will work? |
16:44.09 | roxville | as un-fun as it is... it's best to install skype's static version |
16:44.22 | roxville | my skype doesn't work atm |
16:44.28 | Detox | static? |
16:44.32 | roxville | but i have not installed it in a while |
16:44.48 | roxville | yes, a with static libs |
16:44.51 | Detox | ok |
16:45.25 | roxville | http://www.exaile.org/trac/wiki |
16:45.34 | roxville | this looks like a nice media player |
16:45.53 | roxville | better than to install amarok, with all the KDE libs |
16:50.43 | Gwildor | trog, i have 5mins left on my upgrade downloads....wanna jsut wait to fix entrance when its done...or tell me now? |
16:51.01 | trog | better now |
16:51.09 | trog | i problem i saw, was the bad config file ... |
16:51.30 | trog | in /usr/share/entrance, there is a script named build_config.sh |
16:52.10 | Gwildor | keep going, imma log this |
16:52.10 | Gwildor | or... jsut run that? |
16:52.10 | trog | that will generate a file named entrance_config.cfg ...you have to copy that in etc, over the old config (its a good ideea to backup the /etc file) |
16:52.24 | Gwildor | ahh, alright, NP |
16:52.29 | Gwildor | do this right after the upgrade? |
16:52.34 | trog | that should fix it |
16:52.56 | trog | after the upgrade, then press ctrl+alt+backspace. this will kill X, so save & close everything |
16:54.02 | Gwildor | :D |
16:54.05 | Gwildor | TY kindly. |
16:54.21 | Gwildor | if it works for me... ( you said it has for 2 others) you should make a wiki article |
16:54.45 | trog | a 3 comands article ? :) |
16:55.13 | trog | this will go away sooner or later ...its a temporary fix from my point of view |
16:55.53 | Gwildor | well, tahts what im mean... jsut a short how-to... so we can jstu say "here, follow this link" |
16:56.33 | trog | i'll see about this :) thanks for the ideea |
16:56.46 | Gwildor | :D |
17:00.08 | Gwildor | trog, unpacking everything..almost ready to test.. |
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17:06.40 | rabe | hi |
17:07.00 | rabe | is it possible to change home partition after installation |
17:07.19 | rabe | i warnt to copy it to another partition |
17:08.01 | roxville | yes |
17:08.21 | rabe | how ? |
17:08.23 | roxville | oh crap... keyra is not here... |
17:08.35 | roxville | hold on, gotta find the howto... |
17:08.51 | rabe | thank you |
17:09.40 | Detox | Gwildor ,,,, am considering doing a dist-upgrade for elive to get the 15 kernel ,, is this a good move? |
17:09.42 | trog | rabe, you will have to play with /etc/fstab |
17:09.43 | trog | and mount |
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17:10.31 | Gwildor | Detox, you asking the wrong person on that boat... |
17:10.39 | Gwildor | dererk[work], i JUST upgraded myself.. |
17:10.43 | Detox | ok will continue to row then |
17:10.44 | trog | Detox: what kernel do you have now ? |
17:10.46 | Detox | until |
17:10.47 | Elive_user57 | sry i get disconected :) |
17:10.50 | Detox | 2.6.18 |
17:10.59 | Detox | was earleir beta |
17:11.20 | Detox | am running on dell poweredge 1950 two 3ghx intell cpu with sata hd's |
17:11.23 | roxville | damn, where is it???? |
17:11.29 | trog | i'm happy with my 2.6.18-3 |
17:11.33 | wizard123 | over there -> |
17:11.37 | wizard123 | hi all |
17:11.48 | Detox | huh,, t hought it was <<<< over here |
17:11.55 | roxville | wizard123, do you know eher the howto for /home is? |
17:12.15 | wizard123 | eher ? |
17:12.55 | roxville | how to change /home dir |
17:13.04 | Gwildor | probably in fstab.. |
17:13.13 | wizard123 | vipw eorks |
17:13.15 | wizard123 | works* |
17:13.21 | wizard123 | you can edit home entry |
17:13.33 | Gwildor | restarting X.... hope it works trog :P |
17:14.01 | trog | wish you luck :) ...you did generate the new entrance config...right ? :) |
17:14.26 | Gwildor | well, it printed it ot console.. so i copy&pasted to the old config file.. |
17:14.34 | Gwildor | after i backed it up :D |
17:14.40 | trog | oh, remember, if it doesent work, try to 'startx' as your user ... |
17:14.47 | Gwildor | :D |
17:14.54 | help | d |
17:14.59 | trog | dont think that works |
17:15.01 | trog | 1 sec |
17:15.04 | trog | dont restart yet |
17:15.22 | Gwildor | alright |
17:15.23 | trog | nope, it doesent |
17:15.48 | trog | run that script as root, in /usr/share/entrance |
17:15.57 | Gwildor | well, if it doesnt work... ill jstu re-install from CD... or come here from a CLI irc app hollering atcha :P |
17:15.58 | trog | and move the generated file over the one in /etc |
17:16.11 | trog | it has binary content .... |
17:16.12 | Gwildor | what file does it generate?... it printed to console? |
17:16.32 | trog | it should have generated /usr/share/entrance/entrance_config.cfg |
17:16.44 | trog | that file shouldnt be clear text |
17:16.55 | Gwildor | root@Elive[/usr/share/entrance]# ls |
17:16.56 | Gwildor | build_config.sh images themes users |
17:17.07 | Gwildor | and ive already ran build_config.sh |
17:17.23 | Gwildor | root@Elive[/usr/share/entrance]# sh build_config.sh |
17:18.02 | Gwildor | should i run it again? |
17:18.28 | trog | run it, and then give me the 'ls' result |
17:21.21 | roxville | for the first time, i wish keyra was here... |
17:21.26 | roxville | apt, /home |
17:21.28 | apt | /home is, like, like the "My Documents" folder in M$-windoze |
17:21.38 | roxville | oh wow, cool... |
17:21.48 | roxville | or not |
17:23.01 | trog | apt: its much more ...its the only place where you can write. its the place where you hold your documents, and the settings for your applications. every user has its own /home folder |
17:24.37 | roxville | you can also keep all yer porn in a hidden dir, so your wife don't see it... |
17:26.04 | help | lol |
17:26.59 | roxville | ok, gotta go to the store with wife and daughter, bb... |
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17:31.49 | Elive_user5 | sup everyone |
17:34.01 | Gwildor | hello |
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17:44.21 | Elive_user5 | anyone here |
17:45.59 | trog | i'm here |
17:46.51 | Elive_user5 | sup |
17:48.27 | trog | nothing much ... |
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17:50.37 | Gwildor | trog, ummm... that didnt work.. |
17:50.47 | Gwildor | but, i replaced my back-up... and im logged in fine.. |
17:50.52 | Gwildor | mebbe E didnt upgrade? |
17:51.03 | trog | thats what i was thinking ... |
17:51.12 | Gwildor | but...your config wont work at all.. |
17:51.23 | trog | the behavoir of that script file, remembers me of the previous version of e17 |
17:51.38 | trog | my config is generated for the newer version (.037) |
17:51.45 | Gwildor | 1) it has "trog" in the log-in :P 2) it wont accept my password, 3) it has NOTHING in hte "DE choices" area |
17:51.50 | Gwildor | so... what do i do? |
17:51.51 | trog | can you tell me if your /etc version is in cleartext ? |
17:52.12 | Gwildor | no, it had [null] and stuff in it.. |
17:52.17 | trog | i see |
17:52.23 | Gwildor | i looked @ it when i put that output there.. |
17:52.26 | trog | i can send you my version of the script, might do the job |
17:52.33 | trog | but, were you able to log in into e17 ? |
17:52.36 | Gwildor | well, is my e17 version correct? |
17:52.41 | Gwildor | yeah, im in it right now.. |
17:52.44 | Gwildor | looks exactly the same |
17:52.56 | trog | then, you havent upgraded |
17:52.59 | Gwildor | using the ORIGINAL entrance.cfg |
17:53.01 | trog | afraid of a dist-upgrade ? :) |
17:53.06 | Gwildor | nah, ill do it |
17:53.16 | Gwildor | youve got time? |
17:53.37 | trog | have another half hour, maybe more |
17:53.42 | Gwildor | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
17:53.44 | Gwildor | correct? |
17:54.09 | trog | yes |
17:54.52 | Gwildor | alright, here it goes.. |
17:55.03 | Gwildor | e17 IS in the dist-upgrade "to be upgraded" thingy.. |
17:55.04 | Gwildor | so.. |
17:55.08 | trog | great :D |
17:55.11 | Gwildor | about 10 mins.. |
17:55.15 | Gwildor | ill go smoke...BRB |
17:55.25 | trog | be warned, this version of e17, is *different* |
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18:06.48 | Gwildor | thats ok :P |
18:07.06 | trog | :) |
18:07.43 | trog | i think its also, a good ideea to backup /home/user/.e |
18:07.57 | Gwildor | nothing is there... ill be ok... AND its a serperate partition.. |
18:08.03 | trog | eerrrr |
18:08.03 | Gwildor | what is the command to make new .cfg ? |
18:08.10 | trog | replace "user" with your username |
18:08.23 | Gwildor | oh..THAT... yeah, ill do that |
18:08.26 | Gwildor | whats the command? |
18:08.40 | trog | sh build_config.sh |
18:08.59 | Gwildor | where is it? |
18:09.03 | Gwildor | nvm |
18:09.33 | Gwildor | yeah..where is it? |
18:09.41 | trog | /usr/share/entrance |
18:10.12 | Gwildor | root@Elive[/usr/share/entrance]# ls |
18:10.12 | Gwildor | build_config.sh entrance_config.cfg images themes users |
18:10.14 | Gwildor | finally |
18:10.19 | trog | great :) |
18:10.39 | trog | its good to backup .e , also... |
18:10.47 | trog | never know if something goes wrong |
18:10.47 | Gwildor | mv /home/usr/.e /home/usr/e <that should do it right? |
18:11.00 | trog | also, after you've configured your system, back ~/.e ... |
18:11.07 | trog | just .e |
18:11.20 | Gwildor | yes...but the command? |
18:11.31 | Gwildor | mv /home/usr/.e /home/usr/e <that should do it right? |
18:11.47 | trog | cp -r ~/.e ~/.e.backup |
18:11.59 | trog | just cp -r (recursive) ... |
18:12.16 | Gwildor | alright, done.. |
18:12.20 | Gwildor | ill BRB |
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18:26.55 | gwildor | trog, hello |
18:26.57 | gwildor | bad news |
18:27.32 | Gwildor | im in e16.... using the new config... |
18:27.38 | Gwildor | i dont have a choice to choose e17.... |
18:27.43 | Gwildor | so, im stuck in 16.. |
18:27.46 | Gwildor | any idea? |
18:28.45 | trog | re |
18:28.50 | trog | choose "enlightenment" |
18:28.51 | Gwildor | re? |
18:28.54 | trog | forgot to mention |
18:28.57 | Gwildor | there arent choices.. |
18:28.57 | trog | yea, i was a bit away |
18:29.05 | Gwildor | well, there ARE choices... but they overlap.. |
18:29.13 | Gwildor | so... do what? |
18:29.21 | roxville | brb |
18:29.29 | trog | try to regenerate the menu, and see if the generated file has the same size as the /etc one |
18:29.42 | trog | menu=conf file |
18:29.45 | trog | my mistake |
18:30.37 | Gwildor | do what now? |
18:30.42 | Gwildor | youve lsot me |
18:30.44 | Gwildor | lost |
18:31.09 | Gwildor | oh...gothca |
18:31.52 | Gwildor | WTF |
18:31.53 | Gwildor | Generating config file './entrance_config.cfg' from 'defaults' ... |
18:31.57 | Gwildor | but...it didnt generate it.. |
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18:32.35 | mutilus | hello elive |
18:32.44 | trog | run it as root ...in /usr/share/entrance, and delete any .cfg file in the directory (the entrance_config.cfg file i mean) |
18:32.48 | trog | hello mutilus |
18:32.51 | Gwildor | hell mutilus |
18:32.59 | Gwildor | trog, DUH, as root.. my bad...sorry |
18:33.39 | mutilus | i'm having probs with my alsa/soundcard set up, i was wondering if anyone could help |
18:33.50 | trog | mutilus: whats wrong with it ? |
18:34.04 | mutilus | if seems as if my soundcards have disappeared for me as a normal user |
18:34.09 | mutilus | if i go to root.. |
18:34.14 | mutilus | and run alsaconf.. |
18:34.26 | mutilus | it picks them up fine and configures them, and sound works |
18:34.47 | mutilus | but as a normal user it doesn't seem to acknowledge them any more |
18:35.07 | mutilus | it used to, like a couple of days ago.. but all of a sudden it stopped. i must have naffed something up |
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18:35.17 | trog | ls -la /dev/dsp |
18:35.24 | trog | tell me what it tells |
18:35.27 | roxville | Gwildor |
18:35.32 | roxville | this is what i do: |
18:35.51 | Gwildor | im listening |
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18:36.00 | roxville | at entrance, press ctrl+alt+F1 |
18:36.05 | mutilus | trog, it shows: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-01-08 17:49 /dev/dsp |
18:36.16 | mutilus | hmm.. aha. i think i know |
18:36.18 | trog | is your used in the 'audio' group ? |
18:36.38 | mutilus | hehe yeah i think that's it.. i was doing something with my groups recently |
18:36.44 | roxville | then log in and type: startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start -- :1 |
18:36.47 | trog | :) |
18:36.47 | mutilus | trog: nice one, cheers! |
18:36.55 | trog | mutilus: no problem :) |
18:37.10 | Gwildor | roxville, oh....ahh...well, i have entrance... seems to be working (gets me into e16).... jstu need to get into e17 :P |
18:37.48 | roxville | Gwildor, of course, if you don't use that console/terminal too much, it's easy enough to find the command again with the up-arrow |
18:38.01 | mutilus | trog, do you know the best way to add a user to a given group? last time i did it with usermod, but obviously did something wrong as it deleted my old groups |
18:38.03 | roxville | Gwildor, with this, you get into e17 |
18:38.11 | roxville | and stay there |
18:38.18 | mutilus | i think i did usermod -Gsomegroup someuser |
18:39.17 | Gwildor | roxville, TY, i will have to use that..... if what im doingnow doenst fix things |
18:39.27 | Gwildor | roxville, not entirely sure im too fond of entrance tbh |
18:39.29 | trog | mutilus: well, i do it by hand, by editing /etc/group ...but i am/was a console freak, so i'm not telling you its the best way |
18:39.32 | roxville | of copurse |
18:39.34 | trog | i find it easy |
18:39.45 | roxville | lol |
18:39.48 | Gwildor | BRB....testing |
18:39.50 | roxville | of corpse... |
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18:40.42 | mutilus | trog, i'm fine with console too.. i can just add the group |
18:40.53 | whadar | hello what's the value of elive_revolution_rl2's md5? |
18:40.55 | mutilus | hehe whoops sorry.. didn't mean to press enter ;) |
18:41.04 | mutilus | ignore me :) |
18:42.12 | whadar | md5 anyone? |
18:43.04 | trog | e15f9f1112e02e1235895434eb44b1df |
18:43.25 | whadar | 10x |
18:43.28 | trog | np |
18:43.43 | whadar | the burn keep failing... |
18:43.51 | whadar | though md5 is ok |
18:44.01 | whadar | elive now costs money? |
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18:44.24 | roxville | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/elive/isos/development/ |
18:44.25 | Elive_user | uh-oh |
18:44.35 | roxville | wow, so he DID do an upgrade... |
18:44.35 | Gwildor | i feel needy |
18:44.49 | Gwildor | who me? |
18:45.28 | trog | Gwildor: is it working ? |
18:45.29 | roxville | whadar, thana wasn't getting a lot of donations at all... he's tersting this way...your choice is how much you donate |
18:45.45 | roxville | personally, i rather use the dev versions... but that's just me |
18:45.48 | Gwildor | trog, sorta.. |
18:45.49 | whadar | but you must donate right |
18:45.56 | whadar | ? |
18:45.58 | Gwildor | trog, i had to use roxvilles command... |
18:46.05 | roxville | what only to get the stable version |
18:46.07 | Gwildor | trog, and.. my theme is gone... menu's ...everything |
18:46.14 | whadar | ok |
18:46.18 | trog | but is it starting ? |
18:46.24 | Gwildor | yes, im in it right now.. |
18:46.25 | roxville | Gwildor, you didn't log in as root... did you? |
18:46.28 | Gwildor | i have SHELVES! |
18:46.31 | Gwildor | roxville, no |
18:46.38 | roxville | hehe |
18:46.39 | roxville | ok |
18:46.41 | Gwildor | check my join ip.. |
18:46.42 | trog | oh...great...you will have to configure it, told you its different |
18:46.43 | trog | :) |
18:46.51 | trog | and the entrance fix, didnt work ? |
18:47.00 | Gwildor | well.. yes, and no trog |
18:47.01 | roxville | Gwildor, head over to get-e.org |
18:47.03 | Gwildor | it IS working.. |
18:47.05 | roxville | and get some themes |
18:47.11 | Gwildor | jsut menu is NOT working.. |
18:47.25 | Gwildor | roxville, i want the chtulain, or whatever :P |
18:47.28 | trog | try with the cfg file i sent you by email ... |
18:47.32 | roxville | Gwildor, you have to reload the menu too |
18:47.32 | Gwildor | doesnt someone have a modded version here? |
18:47.40 | Gwildor | trog, that doesnt work.. |
18:47.44 | Gwildor | roxville, how? |
18:47.45 | mutilus | whadar, i think you can download stable from a slower server without paying |
18:47.47 | roxville | everything from now on, is .desktop files, not eaps |
18:47.55 | trog | Gwildor: just a tip, try the 'Darkness' theme |
18:48.02 | Gwildor | trog, TY :D |
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18:48.19 | Gwildor | roxville, so... i have to do all this manually? |
18:48.29 | trog | mutilus: you can also find the iso on the net...other mirrors |
18:48.40 | roxville | desktop menu, "configurations>application menus" |
18:49.00 | Gwildor | oh, sweet perfect. |
18:49.06 | roxville | Gwildor, no you dan't have to... open that menu and reload |
18:49.13 | Gwildor | well, auto-generate would be perfect :P.... close enough |
18:49.19 | mutilus | trog, oh ok -- i donated when i downloaded anyway, i like elive :) |
18:49.31 | roxville | it IS auto-generate...sorta |
18:49.37 | Gwildor | do what now? |
18:50.21 | Gwildor | aye, everything is in left click menu.... |
18:50.22 | roxville | Gwildor, go to the menu, and READ...for once in your life, READ! |
18:50.37 | trog | in your place, the first thing i would do, is play with the bottom shelf...then choose a theme :) |
18:50.39 | roxville | :D |
18:50.58 | Gwildor | shelf & themes i think ive got under control.. |
18:51.06 | Gwildor | im working on right-click menu.. |
18:51.26 | Gwildor | and... ive figured that out :P |
18:51.29 | trog | try the e17 modules :) ...i like the shelf ideea :) |
18:51.30 | roxville | there's virtually nothing in the right-click anymore |
18:51.49 | Gwildor | roxville, im adding what i want there now :D |
18:51.58 | Gwildor | roxville, if you care, its "favorites" |
18:52.07 | roxville | yes, good :) |
18:52.21 | roxville | ok, back to the family for a bit... :) |
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18:52.31 | Gwildor | have fun |
18:59.31 | Gwildor | i think... i like shelves |
19:01.08 | Gwildor | and... this new e17 seems to be a bit faster |
19:01.16 | trog | i also think so |
19:01.22 | trog | i can test it on a 850mhz laptop |
19:01.33 | trog | it flies ...surely its faster than the older one |
19:03.00 | Gwildor | hmm, found something i dont like already.. |
19:03.09 | Gwildor | cant "drag" windows to other desktop |
19:03.16 | trog | sure you can |
19:03.27 | Gwildor | nvm... you can.. |
19:03.40 | Gwildor | i was on desktop1, trying to go left.... ( i thought i was on desktop 2) |
19:03.45 | Gwildor | user malfunction :P |
19:03.47 | trog | :) |
19:03.55 | trog | you can 'fix' even that :) |
19:04.09 | Gwildor | i like ti that way... |
19:04.13 | Gwildor | was jsut on the wrong desktop |
19:04.39 | trog | me too...1 is the most to the left ... |
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19:05.10 | Gwildor | uh-huh |
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19:10.10 | Gwildor | now to find a wallpaper |
19:11.58 | Gwildor | aww great...sound died |
19:12.51 | Gwildor | magically muted...fixed |
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19:19.04 | trog | in this version, you can use animated wallpapers |
19:25.31 | trog | some are quite decent |
19:25.52 | trog | Cracked_Earth for example |
19:26.17 | trog | and there is a red one ...if you have a theme that goes with it...its nice |
19:27.53 | Gwildor | hmmm... |
19:28.03 | Gwildor | i think overall this is a better verison.. some things bug me... |
19:28.10 | Gwildor | mebbe i jsut need to get used to them.. |
19:28.35 | Gwildor | wtf terminal elive uses?? xterm wont launch |
19:30.02 | mutilus | Gwildor, i think Eterm or rxvt. try pressing ctrl+alt+ins |
19:30.50 | mutilus | or it may be urxvt.. they all should work anyway, just not sure which is default |
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20:03.16 | Pacma | nos vemos mañana buenas noches |
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20:31.09 | elmo44 | Gwildor: find your terminal? ;) |
20:36.50 | elmo44 | moo? |
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20:37.51 | kender | hello |
20:50.44 | wizard123 | :) |
20:50.51 | wizard123 | ==" |
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20:51.23 | wizard123 | hiho all o/ |
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20:55.34 | trog | hi |
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21:40.20 | mikes1 | Hello all |
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21:57.10 | Detox_on_Laptop | howdy all |
21:57.47 | Detox_on_Laptop | is a lot quieter since Keyra has left |
21:58.04 | Detox_on_Laptop | apt Keyra |
21:58.17 | Detox_on_Laptop | apt: Keyra |
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22:12.37 | GPLGeek | Today was a crazy day. |
22:12.46 | Gwildor | yes, yes it was. |
22:13.14 | GPLGeek | Early this morning under cover cops came into our business and used it as a steak out |
22:13.21 | Gwildor | WOW |
22:13.30 | Gwildor | whats ur business? |
22:14.09 | GPLGeek | One of them was acting like he just wanted to buy a coffee but we were not even open yet so my manager poured him a cup and told him that he could pay when the computers were up in 5 minutes. |
22:15.19 | GPLGeek | he went to the window and was acting strange, i thought he was actually spotting for a robery or something because of the way he was acting and I kept checking up on him and he said "I know you suspect something," he pulls out his badge and shows me "I'm a detective somone is stealing cars and they are going to be trying to sell one in a shopping center" |
22:15.40 | Gwildor | O_O |
22:15.42 | GPLGeek | Spy vs Spy lol.... i knew something was up. Nobody else thought anything of him |
22:16.12 | GPLGeek | he got a radio call and he ran out the store and like 14 cars all jetted out of the shopping center. |
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22:16.19 | GPLGeek | I work at a pizza place still but that will change |
22:16.33 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
22:16.42 | rabe | hi GPLGeek |
22:16.45 | rabe | hi all |
22:16.50 | GPLGeek | Gwildor, its funny people come to the store and eat lunch so they c an talk to me about linux and software |
22:17.20 | GPLGeek | hmm spacebar stuck down on the 'can' i better clean it |
22:17.41 | Gwildor | lol |
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22:19.21 | GPLGeek | speaking of, I'm on the phone with somone setting up a interview |
22:19.27 | Gwildor | GL |
22:20.58 | GPLGeek | oh they dont want me to be a tech |
22:21.36 | GPLGeek | they want to interview me to take over their tech department as a admin/manager! |
22:21.41 | Gwildor | O_o |
22:21.49 | Gwildor | then you can hire me :D |
22:23.02 | GPLGeek | you live in bay area California? |
22:24.24 | Gwildor | no :( |
22:24.29 | Gwildor | if the price is right, id move tbh |
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22:25.42 | GPLGeek | the price is wrong |
22:25.55 | GPLGeek | ill tell you that right now |
22:26.02 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek, hi. I see on distrowatch they are talking about bloat and blaming Xorg. Do you agree and does elive use it? Oh, I see it does. Hmmm. Any comments? |
22:26.25 | GPLGeek | hilltop_ they can talk all they want |
22:26.57 | GPLGeek | xorg offers better and faster and FREE services, sure its big but its a lot of code |
22:27.26 | GPLGeek | If they cared they could go and get a x server like damnsmalllinux uses but it has no 3D drivers |
22:27.42 | GPLGeek | so just think about that. |
22:28.56 | GPLGeek | Anyone who wants to has the right to make their own distro based on the code provided. Even the binaries. Linux can be exactly how they want it. |
22:29.34 | GPLGeek | bitching about xorg is like saying "well knoppix comes with wifi drivers and I dont use wifi so its worthless and they are stupid to include it" |
22:29.43 | GPLGeek | but SOMBODY uses it |
22:30.04 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek. Yea, there are a couple trolls there. The remark was made by someone that elive runs well on older machines. The topic is really old, like Win98 leftovers. |
22:30.20 | GPLGeek | if you want a nice minimal stable system, make one. but dont expect a development version of a os with E on top of it to fit on a floppy disk |
22:30.41 | elmo44 | GPLGeek: happy GNU year! |
22:30.41 | GPLGeek | elive runs on older machines |
22:30.48 | GPLGeek | thx elmo44 |
22:31.12 | elmo44 | workin at a GNUPixxa parlour? ;) |
22:31.16 | elmo44 | *zz |
22:31.18 | GPLGeek | we've had elive run on 486's and in fact thana had a machine less than 300mhz that he developed on |
22:31.39 | trog | i run it on a 850mhz machine, with 256 of ram...laptop |
22:32.05 | hilltop_ | I had a P200 handme down from wife's work, took Win98 off, added a little RAM and ran KNOPPIX live on it for 3 months. |
22:32.06 | trog | it runs like a dream, fluent, much better than i anticipated |
22:32.09 | elmo44 | i will be trying the latest 0.6.1 on a P-100MHz soon ;) |
22:32.14 | GPLGeek | elmo44, stupid pizza place runs windows, computers crash all the time. kernel errors |
22:32.21 | elmo44 | wow |
22:32.23 | elmo44 | that is sad |
22:32.27 | elmo44 | not a mobo problem? |
22:32.39 | GPLGeek | driver, flatscreen |
22:32.46 | GPLGeek | its wohl certified |
22:32.48 | GPLGeek | lol |
22:32.49 | GPLGeek | thats why |
22:33.11 | GPLGeek | touch-screen rather |
22:33.39 | rabe | sry i try to mount my 2nd hdd with ntfs but eror "special device /hdb2 does not exist" |
22:33.51 | rabe | any idea what to do? |
22:34.10 | GPLGeek | check if mount already has it mounted in /tmp |
22:34.42 | GPLGeek | just type mount with no parameters and see if any /mnt /media or /tmp/whatever comes up |
22:35.01 | GPLGeek | I'm not sure if it will let you mount NTFS for writing, but you can read it ok |
22:35.15 | elmo44 | wow, weird stuff these days : http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/08/2130234&from=rss |
22:35.18 | hilltop_ | I parted out the P200 about 6 months ago when wife's work dumped another Win98 box, a P450. It's running Linux ever since (uptime 146 days.) She likes it better than XP at work. :) |
22:35.29 | rabe | there are many if i type mount but not my 2nd hdd |
22:36.30 | GPLGeek | hilltop_ somone came in today telling me that the system I set up for him was just shut off after 211 days of uptime |
22:36.39 | GPLGeek | the breaker on the side of his house blew up |
22:36.46 | rabe | lol |
22:37.08 | GPLGeek | I was like 211? maybe thats a sign from the beer god that you need a good lagar. |
22:37.15 | GPLGeek | I told him to go get a 40oz |
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22:37.43 | GPLGeek | Welcome eliveuser! |
22:37.54 | GPLGeek | haha you double clicked the button... |
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22:40.28 | hilltop_ | hi z00mbie |
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22:40.59 | z00mbie | hi hilltop_ |
22:41.55 | z00mbie | you almost speak Spanish not to be spoken English |
22:42.37 | rabe | i canged in fstab to readonly for my ntfs partition but it still sais "special device /devhdb2 does not exist" |
22:43.56 | PrinceAMD | i'm HOME!!! |
22:44.15 | rabe | in gparted i get a warning for my hdb "device does not exist |
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22:44.48 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, yarrr |
22:44.49 | rabe | is that normal for a device which is not mounted |
22:44.53 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek, 211 !! OK. But I get antzy for something different. I boot my box into a live Linux CD every few days. But some (like my wife) just want some stability. |
22:45.08 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, SUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
22:45.18 | rabe | or is my device out of order |
22:45.31 | z00mbie | quien habala español aqui |
22:45.35 | hilltop_ | Haha my uptime is 1d 3hr. :) |
22:46.52 | GPLGeek | hilltop_ stability is nice. Most people dont know what that is until they have used linux. It only takes a short time reading to figure it out enough to replace windows. |
22:47.39 | GPLGeek | hablo un poco español |
22:47.44 | GPLGeek | z00mbie, |
22:51.18 | chemiX | hi, i have a question. When i shut down my E i sow long time shuting down screen ( 10 min ... then i push hw button to off) can i read some logs from shuting down of system or can i pres key combination for verbose mod when i shuting down ? |
22:51.33 | z00mbie | epale GPLGeek |
22:51.54 | z00mbie | estoy buscando una distribucion q sea para maquinas lentras |
22:52.38 | Gwildor | hometime...laters |
22:53.57 | trog | chemiX: i can teach you how to shut it down from the console if you want |
22:55.00 | GPLGeek | no se el word "lentras" |
22:57.01 | chemiX | trog : like root ... shutdown now ? in non X console ? |
22:57.09 | trog | yes |
22:57.21 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek. yes, I've been using Linux for three years now. Ops, time to try a few more live distros. :) |
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22:59.43 | GPLGeek | My translator is offline |
23:00.15 | GPLGeek | Mi traductor es no aqui =( |
23:02.10 | rabe | :) |
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23:05.25 | GPLGeek | z00mbie, elive es muy bien por maquinas lentras |
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23:05.59 | GPLGeek | z00mbie, tengo un 486 y es bueno |
23:06.12 | GPLGeek | uso e16 |
23:06.21 | rabe | does anyone know how i can acces to my 2nd hdd |
23:06.32 | get | z00mbie: |
23:06.36 | rabe | god knows |
23:06.38 | GPLGeek | =) |
23:06.40 | rabe | :) |
23:06.43 | GPLGeek | thanks get |
23:06.55 | get | prueba de instalarte elive, pero cuando te arranque el entorno grafico, en vez de elegir e17 usa e16 |
23:07.20 | get | consume un poco mas q un windowmaker pero no tanto como un kde ... |
23:07.29 | get | osea, es rapido y va bien |
23:07.30 | GPLGeek | we were just talking about that so i actually did find a 486 to throw elive on lol |
23:07.30 | get | ... |
23:07.42 | get | GPLGeek: |
23:07.54 | get | on those pc it should work without X |
23:07.57 | get | xD |
23:08.08 | get | like my laptop |
23:08.09 | get | ;d |
23:08.12 | get | without X |
23:08.17 | get | fear the dark site |
23:08.24 | get | <-- goes bed |
23:08.26 | chemiX | trog : when i use shutdown now -r ... i reboot whitout problem ... thanx :) but when i use "eLoginScreen" for logout ... i freez on shuting down screen :( |
23:08.27 | get | bye all |
23:08.28 | GPLGeek | Que no e16, blackbox! |
23:08.32 | GPLGeek | fuxbox! |
23:08.38 | get | wmaker |
23:08.39 | GPLGeek | apt-get install fluxbox |
23:08.41 | get | ;D |
23:09.08 | get | yes and edit the .xinitrc |
23:09.08 | get | ;D |
23:09.09 | rabe | bye get |
23:09.17 | GPLGeek | later get! |
23:09.20 | get | bye |
23:09.20 | GPLGeek | thx for translation |
23:09.25 | trog | you can use 'shutdown -h now' for a shutdown....or 'halt' |
23:10.00 | rabe | ;) |
23:10.19 | get | XD |
23:10.23 | get | byes |
23:10.23 | rabe | in my list of device in /dev/hd* i dont see hdb2 |
23:10.44 | rabe | but in gparted i can c that there is another partition on that device |
23:11.34 | GPLGeek | if your ntfs is its own drive it will probably be hdb1 |
23:11.52 | GPLGeek | but if its just a partition of your first drive it will be probably hda# |
23:12.02 | GPLGeek | a b c, etc that just is the hardware index |
23:12.32 | GPLGeek | hda1 = hard drive a, partition number one |
23:12.47 | GPLGeek | so you can actually map it out in your head to figure out which one is which |
23:12.51 | chemiX | trog: thank you ... i readed man shutdown :) ... but my question is about logs ... exist any log from shuting down system ? becose i can install e to computer of my girlfriend and she want press one button tu shut down :) |
23:12.57 | GPLGeek | if you just know the order of the devices |
23:13.56 | GPLGeek | chemix, if you have a ATX system you can press the button to shut down the system |
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23:14.45 | trog | GPLGeek: you were right! :)) |
23:14.48 | GPLGeek | chemiX, if its a flip switch system you might want to give her user rights to shutdown, in /etc/sudoers and then make a button for shutdown somewhere |
23:15.29 | GPLGeek | trog, right about what |
23:16.08 | rabe | GPLGeek, no it is hdb2, 2nd partition on my 2nd harddisk |
23:16.11 | GPLGeek | as far as logging goes syslogd i think logs shutdowns |
23:16.24 | rabe | but that devise is not listed in /dev/hd* |
23:16.25 | trog | about the shutting down and ATX cases...it had almost instant effect |
23:16.32 | GPLGeek | ok.... |
23:17.37 | GPLGeek | rabe, im not sure what to tell you. and there is no entry for it if you type 'mount' in console? |
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23:18.24 | rabe | no |
23:18.47 | rabe | maybe my device is wrecked |
23:19.06 | GPLGeek | maybe its not getting enough power, maybe its partition information is wacked |
23:19.59 | chemiX | GPLGeek : thanx ... it works perfect :) |
23:20.14 | GPLGeek | chemiX, =) I aim to please |
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23:21.17 | GPLGeek | Sometimes easy answers are not obvious. But we are smart together. We can offer eachother solutions. 31 brains here. More powerful than any 1 brain! |
23:21.53 | trog | We are the borg, resistance is futile... |
23:22.13 | trog | :) |
23:23.06 | chemiX | :) |
23:23.45 | rabe | <PROTECTED> |
23:27.29 | PrinceAMD | u'r xorg |
23:27.30 | PrinceAMD | nice nice |
23:27.40 | rabe | lol |
23:27.56 | PrinceAMD | hey when is your next release? |
23:28.35 | PrinceAMD | rabe, hi, i've never seen u in here so i welcome you |
23:32.17 | chemiX | ?: exist any small program for changing keyboard layout ? becose i need sometimes change EN keyboard and CS keyboard but i only find in elive panel -> user configurations -> keyboard configuration |
23:39.02 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
23:39.26 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, ping |
23:40.11 | elmo44 | hey PrinceAMD, GPLGeek |
23:40.20 | GPLGeek | yes |
23:40.28 | elmo44 | even though i havent seen him speak... hello roxville ;) |
23:40.53 | GPLGeek | he was on earlier |
23:43.35 | rabe | PrinceAMD, hi we meeted yesterday but my name was Eliveuser38 |
23:43.38 | rabe | :) |
23:43.59 | elmo44 | chemiX: your LONG shutdown may be a problem with your ATI card. |
23:46.35 | chemiX | elmo44: i have nvidea ... |
23:47.52 | elmo44 | hrmm |
23:48.00 | elmo44 | you have 0.6.1 ? |
23:48.09 | PrinceAMD | rabe, ohh |
23:48.12 | chemiX | elmo44: but ... when i install pure elive devel.ver. 0.5.5. all works perfect (cca 1 month ago)... but i install some programs and this bug i have 2days |
23:48.14 | PrinceAMD | elmo44, hey |
23:48.44 | elmo44 | chemiX: oh. Have you updated after you installed those programs? |
23:48.45 | chemiX | elmo44: 0.6.1 ? drivers ? |
23:48.56 | elmo44 | are they related to graphics or anythign? |
23:50.38 | chemiX | i think no graphics. Postgresql, and othes 'servers programs'... |
23:51.46 | chemiX | but i remeber ... i can install 'hybernation' but i only apt get ... no writing to configs and kernel changes ... |
23:52.22 | elmo44 | chemiX: you isntalled drivers? |
23:52.24 | chemiX | becose it was hard work for me :( |
23:52.28 | elmo44 | then things went all wonky? |
23:52.37 | chemiX | elmo44: no |
23:53.07 | elmo44 | all i can say is figure out what you installed/tinkered with, and work backwards from there... sounds obvious, but it is the only way! |
23:53.11 | elmo44 | (brb) |
23:53.50 | chemiX | elmo44: i use drivers from cd ( 'nvidea proprietaly old' ) |
23:56.41 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
23:57.42 | GPLGeek | how many tries would it take to be able to walk on your hands and go up a escalator? lol |
23:58.08 | GPLGeek | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1200058447260450472&q=climbing |