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02:34.34 | dererk | apt, kiss LinuxNIT |
02:34.36 | apt | ACTION forces LinuxNIT to give egrub a big kiss on the lips |
02:34.44 | dererk | jojó |
02:34.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
02:35.05 | dererk | poor egrub :PPP |
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02:58.32 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user66 |
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03:11.22 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user4 |
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04:55.42 | LinuxNIT-II | hey revdjenk |
04:55.52 | revdjenk | hey right back, LinuxNIT-II |
04:56.00 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
04:56.04 | LinuxNIT-II | hows it goin |
04:56.32 | LinuxNIT-II | nah just having an out of body experiance |
04:56.34 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
04:57.00 | revdjenk | just fine...although my screen went black...I did the linux three finger salute and on restart no audio...(but it had been working up thil then) |
04:57.27 | LinuxNIT-II | screen went black? |
04:57.40 | revdjenk | I tried backtracking thru terminal through the commands we did last night...but it hasn't started again. |
04:57.44 | LinuxNIT-II | did it just shut the back light off? |
04:58.11 | revdjenk | yes... this happened about two months ago...thought it was my backlight...but it suddenly worked again... |
04:58.21 | revdjenk | and it is working fine now. |
04:59.01 | revdjenk | I am not sure if it does it when it gets too warm...but that always seems to correlate |
04:59.23 | revdjenk | my battery module is working :) |
04:59.32 | LinuxNIT-II | do you not have cpu frequencing on? |
04:59.40 | revdjenk | no |
04:59.51 | LinuxNIT-II | does your cpu not handle it? |
04:59.52 | revdjenk | what is that, you mean the module |
05:00.06 | revdjenk | to monitor the cpu |
05:00.33 | LinuxNIT-II | it scales the cpu so that it runs at minimum speed unless its actually working then it speedsup |
05:00.50 | LinuxNIT-II | mine sits at 600Mhz when im not doing anything |
05:00.57 | revdjenk | this sempron is supposed to do that |
05:01.03 | LinuxNIT-II | if i start working it builds up to 1.3ghz |
05:01.09 | revdjenk | how do I check? |
05:01.16 | LinuxNIT-II | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
05:01.44 | LinuxNIT-II | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep step |
05:01.48 | LinuxNIT-II | whats it say |
05:02.16 | revdjenk | stepping 0 |
05:02.37 | LinuxNIT-II | hmm |
05:02.40 | revdjenk | I'm at 1.6ghz |
05:02.56 | LinuxNIT-II | does the cpufreq module show the speed? |
05:02.58 | revdjenk | precisely 1.604979 |
05:03.00 | revdjenk | hee hee |
05:03.03 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:04.16 | revdjenk | although running cool right now... 57 C |
05:04.27 | LinuxNIT-II | :o |
05:05.05 | LinuxNIT-II | thats cool? |
05:05.09 | LinuxNIT-II | whats it get up to? |
05:05.50 | revdjenk | usually between that and 60 or so... but at the end of summer it was getting into the low to mid 70's |
05:06.18 | revdjenk | I was assuming that is what just happened...although we are having a cold snap outside... |
05:06.25 | LinuxNIT-II | 0_0 |
05:06.48 | revdjenk | is that warm? some people were saying they were running into the 90's |
05:06.58 | LinuxNIT-II | 90s is really bad |
05:07.06 | revdjenk | yes |
05:07.07 | LinuxNIT-II | 90s is shutdown temp |
05:07.10 | LinuxNIT-II | or past |
05:07.25 | revdjenk | right... unless they were in fahrenheit |
05:07.26 | LinuxNIT-II | my HIGH temp is 60 |
05:07.27 | revdjenk | hee hee |
05:07.29 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:07.53 | LinuxNIT-II | i generally sit at 38-42 |
05:07.58 | LinuxNIT-II | C |
05:08.09 | revdjenk | wow...you in a cold shower |
05:08.11 | revdjenk | ? |
05:08.14 | LinuxNIT-II | no |
05:08.24 | LinuxNIT-II | my cpu runs at 600mhz when i dont need it |
05:08.28 | revdjenk | this is your desktop |
05:08.31 | LinuxNIT-II | laptop |
05:08.33 | revdjenk | ohhhhhh |
05:08.36 | revdjenk | duh |
05:08.36 | LinuxNIT-II | i dont have a desktop |
05:08.40 | LinuxNIT-II | sold it |
05:08.51 | revduhjenk | yay... |
05:09.03 | LinuxNIT-II | cpu frequencing generally is not used on a desktop |
05:09.13 | LinuxNIT-II | they dont have cooling trouble like a laptop |
05:09.15 | revduhjenk | true....duh |
05:09.20 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
05:09.33 | LinuxNIT-II | lsmod |
05:09.38 | revduhjenk | lsmod |
05:09.45 | LinuxNIT-II | lsmod | grep power |
05:10.07 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
05:11.05 | revduhjenk | that last command just returned a blank line,,,but the first one a long ls |
05:11.11 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:11.20 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
05:11.24 | LinuxNIT-II | paste here |
05:12.26 | revduhjenk | root@aver[/home/d]# model name: Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ |
05:14.33 | LinuxNIT-II | modprobe powernow-k8 |
05:14.35 | LinuxNIT-II | try that |
05:15.03 | LinuxNIT-II | anything? |
05:15.06 | revduhjenk | nope |
05:15.11 | LinuxNIT-II | good |
05:15.15 | LinuxNIT-II | you in e17? |
05:15.19 | revduhjenk | yep |
05:15.23 | revduhjenk | of course |
05:15.29 | LinuxNIT-II | does the cpufreq monitor show the speed? |
05:15.42 | revduhjenk | that was one of my demands that thana listened to....hee hee |
05:15.50 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:15.54 | revduhjenk | don't have it runnign...1 sec |
05:17.28 | revduhjenk | yep showing 1.6 |
05:17.43 | LinuxNIT-II | click on it |
05:17.46 | revduhjenk | tried to configure to 800, but wouldn't allow me |
05:17.47 | LinuxNIT-II | whats it do |
05:17.56 | LinuxNIT-II | k |
05:18.09 | revduhjenk | says I can't with this module |
05:18.15 | LinuxNIT-II | modprobe cpufreq_powersave |
05:18.46 | revduhjenk | that module not found |
05:18.52 | LinuxNIT-II | meh |
05:19.18 | LinuxNIT-II | cpufreq_powersave |
05:19.45 | revduhjenk | nope |
05:19.49 | revduhjenk | not found |
05:19.49 | LinuxNIT-II | ? |
05:19.56 | LinuxNIT-II | modprobe -l |
05:20.10 | LinuxNIT-II | you see it in that list? |
05:20.14 | revduhjenk | the little label calls it powernow... would that be the correct module? |
05:20.18 | LinuxNIT-II | ;P |
05:20.22 | revduhjenk | modprobe -l |
05:20.23 | LinuxNIT-II | modprobe -l | grep cpuf |
05:20.26 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
05:20.28 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:21.13 | LinuxNIT-II | paste the output in the flood channel |
05:21.47 | revduhjenk | #flood ? |
05:21.56 | LinuxNIT-II | elive-flood |
05:22.00 | revduhjenk | ahhh |
05:22.14 | LinuxNIT-II | #flood is toooo big |
05:22.48 | LinuxNIT-II | uh its the first one |
05:22.49 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:23.06 | revduhjenk | that's what I thot |
05:23.06 | LinuxNIT-II | you sure youre typing it right? |
05:23.22 | revduhjenk | typing what wright |
05:23.24 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
05:23.43 | LinuxNIT-II | cpufreq_powersave |
05:24.05 | revduhjenk | copied and pasted...still blank line |
05:24.15 | LinuxNIT-II | blank line is good |
05:24.21 | revduhjenk | ah |
05:24.39 | revduhjenk | still running at 1.6 and now at 62 C |
05:24.41 | LinuxNIT-II | Saepentia:/home/david# modprobe cpufreq_powersave |
05:24.41 | LinuxNIT-II | Saepentia:/home/david# |
05:24.49 | LinuxNIT-II | this is what it should look like |
05:25.07 | revduhjenk | that's it |
05:25.09 | LinuxNIT-II | k |
05:25.17 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-get install powernowd |
05:27.28 | revduhjenk | go see in flood |
05:27.30 | revduhjenk | won't install |
05:27.39 | LinuxNIT-II | huh |
05:27.41 | LinuxNIT-II | what is that |
05:28.11 | revduhjenk | that is output from the apt-get install command |
05:28.18 | LinuxNIT-II | you sure? |
05:28.22 | revduhjenk | yep |
05:28.34 | LinuxNIT-II | looks liek output pasted into a terminal then coppied out |
05:28.47 | LinuxNIT-II | whats up with all the "command not found" sections? |
05:28.57 | revduhjenk | ah...well that is my fault |
05:29.21 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-get install cpufreqd |
05:29.55 | revduhjenk | i closed that term and opened new one... |
05:30.15 | revduhjenk | re-ran that command... said powernowd is already the newest version |
05:30.37 | revduhjenk | 0 upgrad 0 installed |
05:30.41 | LinuxNIT-II | umm thats cause you just installed it |
05:30.49 | revduhjenk | duh |
05:30.53 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:31.03 | revduhjenk | still running at 1.6 |
05:31.06 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
05:31.14 | revduhjenk | oh, fine.... |
05:31.26 | LinuxNIT-II | you installed but its not running ill bet |
05:33.16 | revduhjenk | root@aver[/home/d]# /etc/init.d/powernowd start |
05:33.16 | revduhjenk | Starting powernowd: Error writing file governor: Invalid argument |
05:33.16 | revduhjenk | PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start. |
05:33.16 | revduhjenk | Please make sure that: |
05:33.17 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.18 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.21 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.22 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.25 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.27 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.29 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:33.31 | revduhjenk | If all of the above are true, and you still have problems, |
05:33.33 | revduhjenk | please email the author: clemej@alum.rpi.edu |
05:33.35 | revduhjenk | whoops...flooded |
05:33.36 | revduhjenk | sorry |
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05:33.56 | LinuxNIT-II | can you guess which one we missed? |
05:34.08 | revduhjenk | userspace |
05:34.16 | LinuxNIT-II | very goot |
05:34.26 | revduhjenk | I wuz write |
05:34.28 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
05:34.46 | LinuxNIT-II | but they typed it wrong |
05:34.53 | pucho | Hola Thanatermesis, te pregunto sobre repositorio para e16 porque uso en Tuquito es basado de Debian. |
05:34.55 | LinuxNIT-II | its cpufreq_userspace |
05:35.05 | LinuxNIT-II | _ not - |
05:35.52 | revduhjenk | reports couldn't find cpufreq)userspace |
05:36.05 | LinuxNIT-II | well i dont doubt it |
05:36.15 | LinuxNIT-II | there is no module called pufreq)userspace |
05:36.21 | LinuxNIT-II | there is no module called cpufreq)userspace |
05:36.31 | revduhjenk | can't tipe |
05:36.35 | LinuxNIT-II | but there is a cpufreq_userspace |
05:36.55 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:36.57 | revduhjenk | it didn't take it,,, and I tried -userspace, too |
05:37.33 | revduhjenk | nope |
05:38.04 | LinuxNIT-II | wtf |
05:38.24 | LinuxNIT-II | meh |
05:38.26 | LinuxNIT-II | do this |
05:38.58 | LinuxNIT-II | insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_userspace.ko |
05:39.23 | revduhjenk | blank line |
05:39.27 | LinuxNIT-II | mwahahahha |
05:39.35 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
05:40.08 | revduhjenk | whew!!! immediately!!! 800 |
05:40.13 | LinuxNIT-II | revduhjenk, anyone tell you that you have an odd pc? |
05:40.27 | revduhjenk | told you a long time ago!!! |
05:40.27 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
05:40.34 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:40.40 | LinuxNIT-II | whats the temp doing? |
05:40.43 | revduhjenk | that's why I hvae been telling ppl not to buy another one |
05:40.45 | LinuxNIT-II | should start dropping |
05:40.52 | revduhjenk | 53 and falling |
05:40.56 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
05:41.04 | revduhjenk | dropped 8 immediately |
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05:41.10 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
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05:41.17 | LinuxNIT-II | oh btw i got xgl last night |
05:41.20 | revduhjenk | dererk!!! |
05:41.27 | revduhjenk | and... |
05:41.28 | LinuxNIT-II | really really slow though |
05:41.32 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
05:41.40 | LinuxNIT-II | sent my cpu tem through the roof |
05:41.41 | revduhjenk | that |
05:41.42 | revduhjenk | is |
05:41.42 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:41.43 | revduhjenk | what |
05:41.44 | revduhjenk | I |
05:41.47 | revduhjenk | could |
05:41.50 | revduhjenk | believe |
05:42.00 | LinuxNIT-II | well i only have 32mb of video ram too |
05:42.10 | LinuxNIT-II | the destkop switch is really nice |
05:42.11 | revduhjenk | hee heh |
05:42.18 | LinuxNIT-II | and the alt+tab effects |
05:42.30 | revduhjenk | now this should jump up and down depending on need? |
05:42.31 | LinuxNIT-II | and the minimize /maximize effects |
05:42.36 | LinuxNIT-II | try it |
05:42.41 | LinuxNIT-II | open OOorg |
05:42.45 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:42.51 | dererk | LOL |
05:42.56 | revduhjenk | I thot it stayed fast when plugged in, which I am... |
05:43.02 | revduhjenk | fan shut off at 49 |
05:43.09 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
05:43.30 | LinuxNIT-II | revduhjenk, it depends on how the daemon is setup |
05:43.47 | revduhjenk | don |
05:43.59 | revduhjenk | don;t want a daemon...working for God!!! |
05:44.01 | revduhjenk | <PROTECTED> |
05:44.10 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:44.20 | revduhjenk | opened OO and shot up to 1.6 then dropped back down |
05:44.36 | LinuxNIT-II | it can be told to set at max seed when plugged in or it can be told to set at minimum speed and jump to max at the slightest activity |
05:44.57 | LinuxNIT-II | then on unplugged it can sit at min and take forever to increase the speed |
05:45.15 | revduhjenk | might be cooler in the lap |
05:45.21 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
05:45.24 | LinuxNIT-II | a LOT |
05:45.32 | LinuxNIT-II | 20 C is a lot |
05:45.42 | LinuxNIT-II | or was it 11? |
05:45.44 | revduhjenk | well at 53 right now |
05:45.45 | LinuxNIT-II | still alot |
05:45.53 | LinuxNIT-II | thats cause of the recent activity |
05:46.02 | revduhjenk | well, 8 cooler than I have seen for a while |
05:46.26 | LinuxNIT-II | run acpi -tf to see the temp in F |
05:46.48 | revduhjenk | 129.2 F |
05:47.06 | LinuxNIT-II | Thermal 1: ok, 122.0 degrees F |
05:47.16 | LinuxNIT-II | :p |
05:47.31 | revduhjenk | that is where you are? |
05:47.37 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah |
05:48.03 | LinuxNIT-II | so atm im at 50 C |
05:48.11 | revduhjenk | can we change elive to register in F? |
05:48.24 | LinuxNIT-II | on the temp module? |
05:48.28 | LinuxNIT-II | i dont think so |
05:48.28 | wizard123 | revduhjenk: sure |
05:48.29 | revduhjenk | yes |
05:48.43 | revduhjenk | ah...hey wizard123 |
05:48.55 | wizard123 | right click on thermometer and choose configure ;) |
05:49.00 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah you can nm |
05:49.01 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:49.02 | wizard123 | hi :) |
05:49.09 | revduhjenk | I am so non-metric too old to change? |
05:49.42 | revduhduhjenk | duh |
05:49.54 | revduhduhjenk | never seen that line before |
05:49.59 | revduhduhjenk | thx wiz |
05:50.10 | wizard123 | your welocome |
05:50.29 | LinuxNIT-II | revduhduhjenk, did you add those modules to /etc/modules? |
05:50.37 | revduhduhjenk | you just stay in the background and show up ... hee hee? |
05:50.58 | revduhduhjenk | which modules cpustuff...? no |
05:51.02 | LinuxNIT-II | yes |
05:51.04 | wizard123 | i was eating breakfast and reading your talk |
05:51.14 | LinuxNIT-II | better do it or it wont work on the next boot |
05:51.33 | wizard123 | revduhduhjenk: http://7ds.pl/~mati/acpi-helper |
05:51.44 | wizard123 | this is script i wrote yesterday |
05:51.48 | revduhduhjenk | k... and that would be...? |
05:51.53 | wizard123 | it works perfectly |
05:52.06 | wizard123 | it loads all necessery modules at startup |
05:52.10 | revduhduhjenk | I mean to add modules |
05:52.14 | wizard123 | and sets ondemand mode |
05:52.27 | wizard123 | so you don't need to run andy additional daemon |
05:52.59 | wizard123 | if you want, place it in /etc/rc2.d with name S20acpi-helper :D |
05:53.48 | LinuxNIT-II | your server is not responding :-/ |
05:56.04 | LinuxNIT-II | wizard123, ^^^^^ |
05:56.15 | revduhduhjenk | I got it, LinuxNIT-II |
05:56.23 | LinuxNIT-II | 0_0 |
05:56.44 | revduhduhjenk | want me to flood it to you? |
05:56.50 | LinuxNIT-II | sure |
05:56.54 | LinuxNIT-II | just not here ;) |
05:56.56 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
05:57.20 | wizard123 | i hope that Thanatermesis will include my acpi-helper in elive 0.5 :) |
05:57.25 | revduhduhjenk | hee hee |
05:57.27 | revduhduhjenk | from duhduh down |
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05:58.42 | revduhduhjenk | well. .5 is already 'released' I am running it.... but maybe and update or .6 |
06:00.04 | wizard123 | :) |
06:00.57 | revduhduhjenk | how long have you been with elive? |
06:01.02 | wizard123 | me? |
06:01.14 | revduhduhjenk | yes |
06:01.19 | wizard123 | actually for 3 days :P |
06:01.22 | revduhduhjenk | wow |
06:01.55 | wizard123 | and i was using it for two weeks month ago |
06:02.04 | revduhduhjenk | I have been a dependent Linux user for five years... and using elive since March,,, but linux dumb, acutally |
06:02.29 | revduhduhjenk | on a pda to begin with... |
06:02.43 | wizard123 | FreeBSD 6.2-beta-1 is available! |
06:02.47 | LinuxNIT-II | no youre not linux dumb. |
06:03.04 | revduhduhduhjenk | hee hee |
06:03.04 | wizard123 | :P |
06:03.52 | revdjenk | ok, I'll behave |
06:04.22 | revdjenk | just trying to tell other about linux and elive, particularly |
06:04.53 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
06:05.00 | wizard123 | 8:05 .. i'm still thinking about taking tram or walk |
06:05.21 | revdjenk | you are where, wizard123 ? England |
06:05.28 | wizard123 | poland |
06:05.34 | revdjenk | close.. |
06:05.37 | revdjenk | hee hee |
06:05.42 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
06:05.50 | revdjenk | end in land |
06:06.16 | revdjenk | well welcome to elive...or welcome back... |
06:06.18 | LinuxNIT-II | both across the ocean |
06:06.38 | wizard123 | :D |
06:06.44 | revdjenk | have a good trip to work, regardless |
06:06.47 | wizard123 | i've lost my hairbrush :| |
06:06.50 | revdjenk | unless itis to school |
06:07.02 | revdjenk | use a couple forks |
06:07.12 | wizard123 | i'm going to suse conference :P |
06:07.29 | wizard123 | some freaks will talk how cool suse is |
06:07.37 | revdjenk | I have like suse, but my machine doesn't like it |
06:07.46 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
06:08.20 | revdjenk | and once I loaded elive...suse looked and acted like windoze to me |
06:10.00 | revdjenk | so LinuxNIT-II how do I add modules, or should I run wizard's script? |
06:10.34 | revdjenk | that would add a bit to startup, eh.... hee hee |
06:10.50 | wizard123 | ok, i'm going out :) bye |
06:10.54 | LinuxNIT-II | up to you |
06:11.00 | LinuxNIT-II | his script looks nice |
06:11.06 | revdjenk | g'morning...dosedanya |
06:11.11 | LinuxNIT-II | laters wizard123 |
06:11.13 | revdjenk | dosfeydanya |
06:11.31 | wizard123 | :P |
06:11.41 | revdjenk | was that even close? |
06:11.50 | wizard123 | close to russian |
06:11.53 | revdjenk | hee hee |
06:12.02 | revdjenk | I'll learn |
06:12.08 | revdjenk | I'm linux |
06:12.11 | wizard123 | do widzenia is in polish |
06:12.16 | wizard123 | so, do widzenia |
06:12.28 | revdjenk | ah...that looks right! |
06:12.37 | revdjenk | do widzenia |
06:14.19 | revdjenk | I used to know 'shut your mouth' in polish...learned that from a neighbor |
06:17.38 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT-II, so I have opened scite thru su term...copied wizard's script into scite, with the filename he gave us... then save to the /etc/rc2.d folder, right? |
06:18.26 | LinuxNIT-II | sounds like what he said |
06:18.29 | revdjenk | what does that final fi mean...? final? |
06:18.46 | LinuxNIT-II | fi is bash for endif |
06:18.51 | revdjenk | finish, end |
06:18.53 | revdjenk | ah |
06:18.55 | LinuxNIT-II | no |
06:19.01 | LinuxNIT-II | finish the IF statement |
06:19.03 | revdjenk | conditional |
06:19.12 | revdjenk | conditional end |
06:19.14 | revdjenk | ah |
06:19.25 | LinuxNIT-II | ever "IF" statement has to have a "ENDIF" to tell it the "IF" is over with |
06:19.38 | revdjenk | otherwise open loop...right |
06:19.39 | LinuxNIT-II | but in bash the "ENDIF" is "FI" |
06:19.51 | LinuxNIT-II | no its not a loop |
06:19.54 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
06:20.14 | revdjenk | whooops...no loop...that's what I meant...it wouldn't go anywhere |
06:20.39 | revdjenk | I am getting loopy |
06:20.46 | LinuxNIT-II | a loop starts with either a "while" statement or a "for" statement |
06:21.56 | LinuxNIT-II | do this open a terminal |
06:22.00 | LinuxNIT-II | and type the following |
06:22.42 | revdjenk | done |
06:23.04 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
06:23.21 | LinuxNIT-II | each semi colon represents a new line in bash |
06:23.28 | LinuxNIT-II | hit control +c to stop it |
06:24.00 | LinuxNIT-II | that is a loop |
06:24.01 | revdjenk | a high loop.... |
06:24.01 | revdjenk | hee hee |
06:24.46 | revdjenk | yes, programmed a few of those in basic class |
06:25.58 | LinuxNIT-II | for file in *; do echo $file; done |
06:26.06 | LinuxNIT-II | thats another loop |
06:26.19 | LinuxNIT-II | thats the long way of typing |
06:26.20 | LinuxNIT-II | ls |
06:26.20 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
06:26.45 | revdjenk | yes, I see |
06:27.03 | revdjenk | you don't need '/' |
06:27.06 | revdjenk | ? |
06:27.14 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
06:27.20 | revdjenk | oh * is wild card |
06:27.39 | LinuxNIT-II | right so * indicates every file in the current directory |
06:27.55 | revdjenk | I was thinking of root |
06:28.44 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
06:29.06 | revdjenk | now when you say this is bash...(and boy this is a basic question) is this anything like C? |
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06:30.52 | revdjenk | hey maxtoo |
06:31.34 | maxtoo | hey ;) |
06:32.13 | revdjenk | are you a max, also? or max the gentoo user...hee hee |
06:32.36 | maxtoo | maxime gentoo user |
06:32.38 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
06:32.44 | maxtoo | :D |
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06:33.03 | revdjenk | well welcome to elive |
06:33.13 | maxtoo | ;) |
06:33.15 | revdjenk | gentoo-ers are welcomed here |
06:33.22 | maxtoo | thks |
06:33.38 | revdjenk | like you needed an invitation! |
06:33.45 | revdjenk | just barged right in |
06:33.45 | LinuxNIT-II | should we have apt gentoo smite him ;) |
06:33.47 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
06:33.48 | revdjenk | 1:) |
06:34.12 | revdjenk | I haven't seen that... |
06:34.22 | LinuxNIT-II | apt gentoo smite revdjenk |
06:34.29 | LinuxNIT-II | apt gentoo-smite revdjenk |
06:34.39 | LinuxNIT-II | hmmm apt used to do it :-/ |
06:34.53 | LinuxNIT-II | maybe i dont know the command |
06:34.57 | LinuxNIT-II | ah well |
06:35.07 | revdjenk | apt revdjenk gentoo smite |
06:35.13 | revdjenk | duh |
06:35.35 | revdjenk | apt dance |
06:35.36 | apt | rumour has it, dance is ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
06:36.12 | revdjenk | that is as smitten as you are going to get maxtoo ... |
06:37.40 | revdjenk | apt tell LinuxNIT-II it is ok that he doesn't know all your commands |
06:37.57 | revdjenk | ah, well |
06:38.37 | LinuxNIT-II | apt say LinuxNIT-II it is ok that he doesn't know all myommands |
06:38.39 | apt | LinuxNIT-II it is ok that he doesn't know all myommands |
06:38.49 | revdjenk | phhhht |
06:39.01 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
06:39.30 | revdjenk | apt sounds like thana...and you typed that! |
06:39.33 | LinuxNIT-II | apt gentoosmite revdjenk |
06:39.34 | apt | ACTION spends 6 days recompiling revdjenk, and when it's all done, revdjenk runs 0.6% faster than previously |
06:39.38 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
06:39.44 | revdjenk | :) |
06:40.11 | LinuxNIT-II | just think revdjenk in 6 days youll be faster than you are now |
06:40.12 | revdjenk | only .6% |
06:40.16 | LinuxNIT-II | :) |
06:40.18 | revdjenk | and hotter |
06:40.24 | LinuxNIT-II | 0_0 |
06:40.51 | revdjenk | at 52 C |
06:40.57 | revdjenk | cool as a cuke |
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06:41.43 | LinuxNIT-II | welcome Elive_user1 |
06:41.45 | revdjenk | and tired as a gentoo installer |
06:42.12 | revdjenk | ciao Elive_user1 |
06:42.23 | LinuxNIT-II | maxtoo, i dont hold anything against gentoo... i just thinke the gentoosmite thing is funny |
06:42.30 | LinuxNIT-II | :o |
06:42.33 | revdjenk | too late |
06:42.41 | Elive_user1 | hi! |
06:42.48 | LinuxNIT-II | hi!!! |
06:42.50 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
06:42.57 | revdjenk | hi!!!!! |
06:43.26 | Elive_user1 | ciao revdjenk!:D |
06:43.28 | revdjenk | Fibronocci series? |
06:43.34 | LinuxNIT-II | apt use gentoo |
06:43.36 | apt | You can't "use" Gentoo. You can only install, configure and recompile it ... recursively. |
06:43.36 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
06:43.44 | revdjenk | hee hee |
06:43.47 | Elive_user1 | fibonacci! |
06:43.54 | Elive_user1 | :P |
06:44.05 | revdjenk | thx Elive_user1 it is late... |
06:44.13 | revdjenk | or early for you! right? |
06:44.14 | Elive_user1 | 1 1 3 5 8 13 21 .... :D |
06:44.35 | revdjenk | it is a magnificent discovery he made!! |
06:44.54 | Elive_user1 | yea!expecially for the property of this series |
06:45.41 | revdjenk | you have never heard of Fibonacci? |
06:46.11 | revdjenk | his series explains the increase in the spiral in the nautilus shell, for example |
06:46.22 | revdjenk | or rabbits...hee hee |
06:46.30 | bouba_ | rabbits rabbits:D |
06:46.40 | revdjenk | and more rabbits |
06:47.00 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
06:47.10 | revdjenk | leaves on plants follow this pattern, |
06:47.47 | bouba_ | i wrote a little program in java about fibonacci:D |
06:48.01 | bouba_ | because it's too easy:D |
06:48.16 | revdjenk | and the ratio... fits the human body.... the size of the nose relates to the size of the head t the size of the body... |
06:48.20 | revdjenk | things like that |
06:49.20 | bouba_ | fibonacci is everywere! |
06:49.36 | bouba_ | maybe linuxnit is fibonacci:D |
06:49.45 | revdjenk | LOL |
06:50.22 | LinuxNIT-II | ack |
06:50.45 | LinuxNIT-II | im familiar with the idea... just the name left my brain for some reason |
06:50.51 | LinuxNIT-II | too much school i guess |
06:51.11 | revdjenk | never too much school.... too much information |
06:51.15 | revdjenk | at once |
06:51.59 | LinuxNIT-II | well eventually you have to make room |
06:52.00 | LinuxNIT-II | .... |
06:52.13 | LinuxNIT-II | i already lost 3rd grade |
06:52.15 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
06:52.37 | revdjenk | no---- not recess recessed from your brain?! |
06:53.52 | revdjenk | speaking of recess...I need to get to bed... have to write a sermon tomorrow...or at least study enough to give secretary a sermon title.. |
06:54.21 | revdjenk | maybe my audio will come back ... |
06:54.28 | revdjenk | with a little rest |
06:54.32 | revdjenk | hee hee |
06:54.38 | revdjenk | good nigth |
06:54.41 | bouba_ | good night;) |
06:54.42 | LinuxNIT-II | night |
06:54.46 | revdjenk | good to meet you bouba_ |
06:54.52 | revdjenk | see ya LinuxNIT-II |
06:54.56 | LinuxNIT-II | laters |
06:54.57 | bouba_ | me too |
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10:45.07 | garabb | hi everybody |
10:45.17 | bouba_ | hi! |
10:45.55 | bentejuy | hi everyone! |
10:47.16 | garabb | wizard123 ping |
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11:53.03 | wizard123 | garabb: pong |
11:53.16 | wizard123 | i'm back :) |
11:58.29 | wizard123 | hi get[elive] |
11:58.53 | garabb | hi wizard123 |
11:59.58 | wizard123 | i have news for your site |
12:00.12 | garabb | for me? |
12:00.29 | wizard123 | for get[elive] rather :P |
12:01.19 | garabb | i have tried your new script |
12:01.41 | wizard123 | and? |
12:01.51 | garabb | on my centrino machine works fine |
12:02.15 | garabb | on the older P4 mobile i get the an error |
12:02.26 | wizard123 | what error? |
12:02.26 | garabb | /etc/init.d/acpi-helper: line 23: echo: write error: Invalid argument |
12:02.47 | wizard123 | me checks |
12:03.11 | garabb | this is the line setting ondemand |
12:03.17 | wizard123 | i know.. |
12:03.28 | garabb | the same line as in the first script |
12:03.36 | garabb | but the first script works |
12:03.47 | garabb | really strange |
12:03.56 | wizard123 | what modules are loaded on this p4 ? |
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12:05.28 | garabb | cpufreq_userspace 4440 0 |
12:05.28 | garabb | cpufreq_stats 4356 0 |
12:05.28 | garabb | freq_table 4484 2 speedstep_smi,cpufreq_stats |
12:05.28 | garabb | cpufreq_powersave 1920 0 |
12:05.28 | garabb | cpufreq_ondemand 6044 0 |
12:05.29 | garabb | cpufreq_conservative 6948 0 |
12:05.51 | wizard123 | hmm. there is no cpufreq driver :| |
12:06.10 | wizard123 | wai a second i need a toilet |
12:06.15 | Thanatermesis | wizard123, sorry, the stuff of acpi is not posible to include on this release... 0.5-stable is ready since a long time, i just need to finish the website's stuff for release it officially |
12:06.23 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to know about the releases from a first time, take a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail and http://elivecd.org/es/infomail (for your language) |
12:06.31 | Thanatermesis | keyra, don't worry ;) |
12:06.32 | wizard123 | Thanatermesis: ok |
12:06.53 | Thanatermesis | wizard123, but i can try it for the next versions (beta), of course |
12:07.11 | garabb | modprobe speedstep-ich |
12:07.21 | garabb | Device or resource busy |
12:08.10 | wizard123 | garabb: try modprobe acpi-cpufreq |
12:08.15 | wizard123 | manually |
12:08.49 | garabb | Device or resource busy |
12:09.08 | wizard123 | is that chip supported at all ? |
12:09.12 | garabb | is there a third one occupying the same device?? |
12:09.38 | garabb | the same machine works fine with the first script |
12:10.24 | garabb | also, without running the new script i can load acpi-cpufreq or speedstep-ich without an error |
12:10.42 | wizard123 | damn.. |
12:11.04 | wizard123 | so it will need rewrite.. or return to the first version |
12:11.10 | garabb | it seems that something gets loaded that should not |
12:11.20 | garabb | or maybe in the wrong order |
12:11.47 | wizard123 | i'll try other order |
12:11.49 | garabb | i will check this out yet and tell you later |
12:11.58 | wizard123 | if you could :) |
12:12.18 | wizard123 | and i rethink idea of this script and try to rewrite it to be more smart :) |
12:19.15 | garabb | wizard123: i got it |
12:19.35 | garabb | speedstep_smi gets in the way - wrong module |
12:20.12 | garabb | and in reverse order it comes before speedstep-ich |
12:20.24 | wizard123 | hmm.. so it should be checked at the end.. |
12:21.06 | wizard123 | i think i'll just hardcode modules list :) |
12:21.30 | garabb | it's weird that a module can get loaded that belongs to another hardware |
12:21.53 | wizard123 | yeah.. maybe module maintainer screwed something or was too lazy |
12:22.31 | wizard123 | so i'll be lazy too :P |
12:22.58 | garabb | you mean using the generic one? |
12:23.16 | garabb | maybe it is safer |
12:23.18 | wizard123 | nono.. i'll set the list order manually |
12:23.31 | garabb | ah! |
12:23.33 | wizard123 | that will be the best choice |
12:24.00 | wizard123 | (for now of course) |
12:24.30 | garabb | yeah... for a safe script we need hw checking |
12:25.13 | garabb | do you know what smi stands for? |
12:25.37 | wizard123 | i don't know |
12:25.45 | wizard123 | it's documentation is poor |
12:28.08 | wizard123 | i'll google |
12:30.29 | garabb | i have found a correspondance on the same problem |
12:30.32 | garabb | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75598.html |
12:30.39 | keyra | garabb: if you love ubuntu so much, why don't you marry with it ? (oooooh) |
12:30.50 | MetaPhaze | apt gentoo |
12:31.03 | apt | methinks gentoo is foo |
12:31.03 | garabb | keyra i do not love ubuntu |
12:31.04 | keyra | garabb: :D |
12:31.31 | garabb | i search infos about kernel modules for speedstep |
12:31.51 | MetaPhaze | garabb there are none |
12:31.58 | MetaPhaze | oh |
12:31.59 | MetaPhaze | wait |
12:32.02 | MetaPhaze | there are |
12:32.09 | MetaPhaze | none for speed stream |
12:32.40 | MetaPhaze | if i had a speedstep i would love it... but i have a speed stream |
12:34.10 | garabb | MetaPhaze: the url was for wizard123 - sorry, i did not write it |
12:35.53 | wizard123 | i got a phone call |
12:36.21 | wizard123 | today is second day of my vacations.. and i had only 10 minutes for myself |
12:37.42 | wizard123 | but what do i see :D something has ready to use script! |
12:37.51 | wizard123 | maybe it's gpleded or bsded |
12:38.18 | wizard123 | so i can 'incorporate' some things (like detecting cpu for example) |
12:38.47 | garabb | great |
12:42.15 | wizard123 | nope.. debian version of powernowd does not have this script :| |
12:44.00 | wizard123 | i see that not only you have problems with speedstep-ich |
12:45.26 | wizard123 | garabb: ping |
12:45.37 | garabb | wizar123 here i am |
12:45.54 | wizard123 | i need some facts.. |
12:46.04 | wizard123 | which modules can be loaded on p4 ? |
12:46.17 | wizard123 | speedstep-smi and apeedstep-ich ? |
12:46.45 | wizard123 | because only on works.. |
12:46.58 | garabb | speedstep-smi speddstep-ich (correct) and acpi-cpufreq |
12:47.54 | wizard123 | hmm.. and everything works with acpi-cpufreq :P ? |
12:48.09 | wizard123 | o got it! |
12:48.12 | garabb | yes |
12:48.50 | wizard123 | i know! could you pmi /proc/cpuinfo from this ich machine? |
12:49.26 | wizard123 | s/pmi/pm me/ |
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12:55.29 | garabb | wizard123: DCC CHAT to wizard123 timed out - abortin |
12:56.16 | wizard123 | :| |
12:56.26 | wizard123 | ad what about msg? |
12:58.12 | garabb | processor : 0 |
12:58.12 | garabb | vendor_id : GenuineIntel |
12:58.12 | garabb | cpu family : 15 |
12:58.12 | garabb | model : 2 |
12:58.14 | garabb | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.60GHz |
12:58.16 | garabb | stepping : 4 |
12:58.18 | garabb | cpu MHz : 1196.875 |
12:58.20 | garabb | cache size : 512 KB |
12:58.22 | garabb | fdiv_bug : no |
12:58.24 | garabb | hlt_bug : no |
12:58.26 | garabb | f00f_bug : no |
12:58.28 | garabb | coma_bug : no |
12:58.30 | garabb | fpu : yes |
12:58.32 | garabb | fpu_exception : yes |
12:58.34 | garabb | cpuid level : 2 |
12:58.36 | garabb | wp : yes |
12:58.38 | garabb | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm |
12:58.41 | garabb | bogomips : 2394.84 |
12:58.54 | wizard123 | :S no ich in it |
12:59.13 | garabb | wizard: ich is the chipset |
12:59.46 | wizard123 | whoa.. so now it is a problem |
13:00.00 | garabb | it seems that on older cpus the speed stepping was done in the chipset yet |
13:00.34 | wizard123 | but if generic driver works.. why are we bothering with this? |
13:00.45 | wizard123 | i'll just revert to old list and everything will be fine |
13:00.56 | wizard123 | and i'll try to write cpu detection |
13:01.20 | garabb | ok - let's hope that the generic really works for all |
13:01.38 | garabb | i mean for all intel cpus |
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13:02.59 | wizard123 | get[elive]: anything interesting ? :P |
13:03.14 | get[elive] | yes to make a stats |
13:04.49 | wizard123 | which client is more popular here? xchat or irssi? |
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13:12.37 | bodha | coucous tous |
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13:28.43 | garabb | hi roxville |
13:29.35 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
13:29.42 | roxville | what's going on? |
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13:30.04 | garabb | just hanging out at work |
13:30.20 | garabb | and you |
13:30.47 | roxville | not a bad place to "hang out"... at least you're getting paid... i hope :) |
13:31.30 | garabb | waiting for the stress coming |
13:33.06 | roxville | :) |
13:34.25 | wizard123 | lol |
13:34.55 | roxville | lol Gwildor |
13:35.10 | roxville | did you find a good cms yet, Gwildor ? |
13:35.22 | Gwildor | im taking a CMS break... |
13:35.24 | wizard123 | garabb: i uploaded modified version of my (or rather our) script: 7ds.pl/~mati/acpi-helper |
13:35.26 | Gwildor | finishing this picasa class |
13:35.40 | Gwildor | roxville, ill BRB...smoke break |
13:36.56 | garabb | wizard123: got it thanx |
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13:42.09 | garabb | wizard123: this works fine with the acpi_cpufreq module |
13:42.43 | wizard123 | i rest a bit and about evening i'll start working on cpu detection |
13:43.14 | garabb | oki |
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13:46.04 | garabb | wizard123: it can get quite messy if also the chipset has to be checked |
13:46.38 | wizard123 | garabb: yeah :D that will be problem |
13:46.45 | wizard123 | but i'll try to find a way |
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13:47.06 | wizard123 | (grepping through proc and sys should give me something) |
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14:25.39 | elmo40 | new version out yet? |
14:25.39 | elmo40 | ;) |
14:33.12 | garabb | see you guys, i have to go |
14:33.18 | wizard123 | bye garabb |
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15:11.31 | LinuxNIT | welcome Pels |
15:11.42 | Pels | Thanks :) |
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15:18.30 | wizard123 | damn, i can't finnish one mission in driver :| |
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15:28.52 | Thanatermesis | keyra, elive-skel |
15:29.00 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
15:29.03 | Thanatermesis | thanks keyra |
15:29.10 | keyra | Thanatermesis: youre welcome :) |
15:29.13 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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16:39.35 | Elive_user | hii |
16:40.02 | Elive_user | it never |
16:51.21 | wizard123 | back |
16:57.21 | bouba_ | hello wizard123 ;) |
16:57.28 | keyra | bouba_: hi |
16:57.43 | bouba_ | hi keyra! |
16:58.38 | wizard123 | hi all :) |
16:58.48 | wizard123 | i bought new hairbrush :D |
16:58.59 | fish-god | Nice one wizard123. :) |
16:59.06 | bouba_ | congratulations;) |
16:59.15 | wizard123 | hehe |
17:01.45 | bouba_ | 2.6.18 is out :) |
17:01.58 | wizard123 | they are fast :) |
17:02.08 | wizard123 | freebsd 6.2-beta1 is out :) |
17:02.17 | wizard123 | i can't wait for release |
17:02.22 | keyra | wizard123: if you want to know about the releases from a first time, take a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail and http://elivecd.org/es/infomail (for your language) |
17:03.26 | bouba_ | wizard you use freebsd? |
17:03.35 | bouba_ | do |
17:03.50 | wizard123 | on servers, yes |
17:04.04 | wizard123 | and i was using it on my laptop, before i found elive |
17:10.44 | fish-god | Speaking of elive, I have the 0.5 version installed and no downloaded background .edj files show up in emblem or the other background changer. |
17:11.14 | bouba_ | same thing:| |
17:11.33 | fish-god | Just another bug in 0.5 then? |
17:12.00 | bouba_ | boh... or maybe e17:D |
17:12.20 | fish-god | Maybe. |
17:12.50 | fish-god | although if I give it a .jpg it'll convert it to a .edj and that'll show up. |
17:13.37 | bouba_ | how do you convert jpg to edj? |
17:14.23 | fish-god | when you add a jpg background with the background changer through the enlightenment settings window. |
17:15.23 | bouba_ | ah ok, but is automatic? |
17:15.39 | fish-god | Making the jpg an edj? |
17:15.44 | bouba_ | y |
17:16.37 | fish-god | Yeah. You just add the file, wait a moment and it shows up in the lest on the left. then if you look in ~/.e/e/backgrounds/ it's in there, filename.edj |
17:16.47 | bouba_ | understood:) |
17:16.49 | bouba_ | thanks |
17:16.55 | fish-god | :) |
17:17.34 | bouba_ | maybe thana already know this problem:| |
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17:38.03 | bouba_ | someone is in elive 0.5 now? |
17:38.24 | bouba_ | can you tray open openoffice please?:D |
17:38.30 | bouba_ | try |
17:38.32 | bouba_ | :D |
17:38.39 | wizard123 | sure |
17:38.57 | bouba_ | ah not in the #1 desktop |
17:38.58 | wizard123 | ok, writer ready |
17:39.35 | wizard123 | bouba_: what now? |
17:39.40 | bouba_ | openoffice appears always in the #1 desktop:D |
17:40.17 | wizard123 | hmm.. worked for me nice |
17:40.56 | bouba_ | heheheh i don't know why, but if i open openoffice in any desktop, it appears only in the #1:D |
17:41.15 | bouba_ | funny reatures:D |
17:41.32 | wizard123 | try maybe you saved window settings once? |
17:42.12 | bouba_ | yes maybe, but i do it for many programs... |
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17:43.40 | Detox_BRB | help help |
17:43.49 | wizard123 | ok ok |
17:43.55 | Detox_BRB | yahoo |
17:44.06 | wizard123 | waht yahoo? |
17:44.17 | bouba_ | under drugs:D |
17:44.21 | Detox_BRB | I am attempting to isntall bare bones debian,,, tehn add in xwindows |
17:44.36 | Detox_BRB | so do i do apt-get x-window-system? |
17:44.45 | Detox_BRB | or jsut apt-get install fluxbox? |
17:44.49 | Detox_BRB | i have old laptop |
17:45.04 | Detox_BRB | and need to have scaled down |
17:45.06 | Detox_BRB | stuff |
17:45.14 | Detox_BRB | would like to use debian rather than dsl |
17:45.30 | wizard123 | Detox_BRB: elive would fit your needs |
17:45.32 | Detox_BRB | so can you advise on best way to install? |
17:45.36 | wizard123 | elivecd.org |
17:45.38 | Detox_BRB | will not work on this laptop |
17:45.38 | wizard123 | ;) |
17:45.43 | wizard123 | why? |
17:45.50 | Detox_BRB | I cannot get the video to work |
17:45.59 | bouba_ | elive version? |
17:46.04 | Detox_BRB | lastest |
17:46.10 | Detox_BRB | pre-stabel |
17:46.14 | wizard123 | what video? |
17:46.43 | Detox_BRB | Gwildor aand roxville struggled with me and it jsut will not go |
17:46.52 | Detox_BRB | is i810 dell inspirio2500 |
17:47.06 | Gwildor | o/ |
17:47.25 | Detox_BRB | so i am tired of playing with the stupid thing |
17:47.46 | wizard123 | it should work :/ |
17:47.47 | Detox_BRB | hello Gwildor |
17:47.53 | wizard123 | hi Gwildor |
17:47.55 | keyra | Detox_BRB: hi |
17:47.55 | Gwildor | :D |
17:48.22 | wizard123 | intel i810 should work.. |
17:48.28 | wizard123 | at least with vesa driver |
17:48.41 | Detox_BRB | all I get is 640 x 480 |
17:48.45 | Detox_BRB | that is is |
17:48.47 | Detox_BRB | it |
17:48.58 | wizard123 | have you tried manual x configuration? |
17:49.01 | Detox_BRB | b elieve me I ahve tried everything |
17:49.08 | Detox_BRB | yup |
17:49.15 | wizard123 | and vesa driver? |
17:49.25 | Detox_BRB | yup |
17:50.43 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
17:50.56 | Detox_BRB | yup,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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17:51.12 | wizard123 | but you know that you will have the same problems under all linux distros? |
17:51.27 | Detox_BRB | puppy and dsl work great on it |
17:51.28 | Detox_BRB | ?!?! |
17:51.52 | wizard123 | damn.. so it is x configuration problem :) |
17:52.00 | wizard123 | if one works, other should too |
17:52.33 | bouba_ | but works only at 640x480? |
17:52.33 | Detox_BRB | yes and It is really frustrating |
17:52.37 | Detox_BRB | yup |
17:52.46 | bouba_ | maybe is a MONITOR issue |
17:52.49 | bouba_ | refresh |
17:52.52 | Detox_BRB | but wtih puppy/dsl it reads 800x600 |
17:53.01 | Detox_BRB | yes monitor issue |
17:53.17 | bouba_ | on elive boot toy can select your monitor |
17:53.29 | bouba_ | try select by hand your model |
17:53.39 | Detox_BRB | dell uses third party |
17:53.47 | bouba_ | ? |
17:53.51 | Detox_BRB | dell tech support has no idea what monitor it is |
17:53.59 | wizard123 | hehe |
17:54.07 | bouba_ | no model on back? |
17:54.11 | bouba_ | no label? |
17:54.19 | wizard123 | laptop :D |
17:54.20 | bouba_ | nothings?:D |
17:54.24 | bouba_ | ahhh |
17:54.25 | bouba_ | :D |
17:54.27 | bouba_ | sorry |
17:54.29 | bouba_ | :P |
17:54.47 | Detox_BRB | nope |
17:54.49 | Detox_BRB | natta |
17:55.09 | Detox_BRB | dell just refers to owner manual that says to keep it clean |
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17:55.21 | wizard123 | buahaha |
17:55.42 | bouba_ | try see the xorg.conf of dsl and compare it with elive's xorg.conf.... |
17:55.51 | wizard123 | good idea :D |
17:56.03 | wizard123 | remember about x versions too |
17:56.10 | Detox_BRB | dsl uses xvesa video |
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17:57.18 | wizard123 | xvesa? |
17:57.22 | Detox_BRB | yes |
17:57.28 | Detox_BRB | in dsl and puppy |
17:57.29 | wizard123 | what is it? |
17:57.37 | Detox_BRB | video drivers |
17:57.54 | pucho | hola a todos |
17:57.59 | Detox_BRB | I guess it is a generic drop back 10 and punt driver |
17:58.02 | keyra | pucho: que tal ? |
17:58.17 | bouba_ | go to eat:D see yoy later;) |
17:58.18 | pucho | keyra, todo bien. |
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17:59.26 | wizard123 | Detox_BRB: does dls use x 7 ? |
18:00.28 | Detox_BRB | it is very nice |
18:00.35 | Detox_BRB | oops |
18:00.42 | Detox_BRB | x7? |
18:01.17 | pucho | Thanatermesis, estas? |
18:01.49 | dererk | esta muerto |
18:01.54 | dererk | XD |
18:02.21 | wizard123 | Detox_BRB: x.org 7 |
18:02.30 | Detox_BRB | ohhh |
18:02.36 | Detox_BRB | dont know |
18:02.53 | wizard123 | :( too bad |
18:02.57 | Detox_BRB | but when I use dsl I use the xvesa so my monitor will work |
18:03.04 | Detox_BRB | probably |
18:03.20 | Detox_BRB | but xorg only allows me 640x480 |
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18:07.23 | Detox_BRB | abd yes ,, it is a refresh rate issue,,, found the specs in puppy linux, but the video was very unstable even after pasting them into xorg.conf |
18:08.04 | wizard123 | hmm |
18:11.01 | Detox_BRB | yup ,, that is why I gave up on it |
18:12.53 | wizard123 | i have no idea about it |
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18:50.30 | wizard123 | next beer :D |
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18:58.59 | bentejuy | hi! |
19:04.10 | wizard123 | hi bentejuy |
19:04.28 | bentejuy | hi wizard123 |
19:04.35 | wizard123 | damn.. i driunk two 'strong' beers and i'm better in driver :D |
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19:20.50 | wizard123 | next beer :D |
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19:56.34 | wizard123 | and that's all |
19:56.40 | wizard123 | i'm out of beer ;) |
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20:55.56 | bodha | re coucous |
20:56.25 | wizard123 | hi bodha |
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21:17.01 | bouba_ | bouba! |
21:17.07 | bouba_ | :D |
21:17.31 | wizard123 | :D |
21:17.35 | wizard123 | omg |
21:18.15 | bouba_ | i'm downloading eclipse:D |
21:18.42 | wizard123 | today is my namegiving day.. and i decided to honour it :D |
21:19.09 | wizard123 | so, i've bought some beer, and took some ganja form best sources.. |
21:19.17 | bouba_ | :D |
21:19.29 | wizard123 | and now.. i'm not sure what eclypse actually is |
21:19.56 | bouba_ | http://www.eclipse.org/ :D |
21:19.59 | wizard123 | i'm sitting alone in my room, listening to Blind Guardian and everything is sooo coool! |
21:20.32 | bouba_ | :D maybe is the ganja spirit!:D |
21:20.49 | wizard123 | ahh.. so eclypse - cms ? |
21:20.58 | wizard123 | s/-/=/ |
21:21.09 | bouba_ | cms?:| |
21:21.19 | wizard123 | content manage system |
21:21.32 | bouba_ | ummm....yes.....:|:D |
21:22.20 | wizard123 | looks nice..but drupal looked and worked better for me :D |
21:22.44 | bouba_ | what is drupal? |
21:22.49 | wizard123 | drupal.org |
21:23.15 | wizard123 | i have problems with understanding simple things now :D |
21:23.27 | wizard123 | so if i'm wrong.. just ignore me :P |
21:23.35 | bouba_ | muahahaha:D |
21:24.59 | wizard123 | damn! i should think about acpi helper for garabb |
21:25.00 | wizard123 | :| |
21:26.00 | bouba_ | garabb? |
21:27.01 | wizard123 | garabb is often here |
21:27.14 | wizard123 | he is testing my acpi-helper |
21:27.49 | bouba_ | ah ok |
21:28.14 | bouba_ | remember me what is acpi:D |
21:28.52 | wizard123 | advanced bla power infrastructure |
21:28.56 | wizard123 | www.acpi,org |
21:29.16 | wizard123 | wrong url! |
21:29.32 | bouba_ | ah ok i remember well:P |
21:30.32 | wizard123 | :P |
21:30.33 | wizard123 | good, cuz i don'tremember url |
21:30.34 | wizard123 | ahh! acpi.info :D |
21:30.34 | wizard123 | Advanced Configuration & Power Interface |
21:30.34 | bouba_ | meet it at kernel compiling:D |
21:30.59 | wizard123 | me and garabb are working at cpufreq autodetection for elive |
21:30.59 | bouba_ | goood |
21:33.02 | bouba_ | as module? |
21:33.02 | wizard123 | as a init script |
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21:33.51 | bouba_ | ah ok |
21:33.51 | wizard123 | actually it works well and it's testing version is available for download |
21:33.51 | bouba_ | could i try it? |
21:33.51 | wizard123 | http://www.7ds.pl/~mati/acpi-helper |
21:33.52 | wizard123 | chmod +x it and cp it as /etc/rc2.d/S20acpi-helper |
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21:33.53 | wizard123 | damn i screwed my joint |
21:33.53 | bouba_ | whait.. remember i'm the channel noob:D. now i part it on a file right? |
21:33.57 | wizard123 | hmm.. save ti somewhere.. |
21:34.09 | wizard123 | than.. chmod +x saved_file |
21:34.32 | wizard123 | than (as root) mv saved_file /etc/rc.2d/S20acpi-helper |
21:34.43 | wizard123 | than i'm going to smoke.. brb |
21:34.49 | bouba_ | :D |
21:36.08 | wizard123 | baaaaack... |
21:37.32 | wizard123 | bouba_: do you have a laptop or new intel/amd/ppc system ? |
21:38.25 | bouba_ | no... an old athlon xp desktop. wizard i havn't that folder "s20acpi...." |
21:38.36 | bouba_ | i create it? |
21:38.41 | wizard123 | that is not a folder |
21:39.19 | bouba_ | ah ok sorry |
21:39.34 | wizard123 | if you do cp someting /somewhere/thing and thing does not exist, file something will be placed in /somewhere with name someting |
21:39.59 | wizard123 | don't sorry, i should excuse you , cuz i'm after grass |
21:40.19 | bouba_ | :D eheheh |
21:40.47 | bouba_ | but... ": No such file or directory" why? ... ummm.... |
21:42.23 | wizard123 | did you doenload my acpi-helper? |
21:42.34 | bouba_ | now i retry... |
21:42.52 | wizard123 | uh.. just chech if it is in your home dir :D |
21:43.13 | bouba_ | yes |
21:43.31 | wizard123 | so login as root (su in terminal) |
21:43.39 | bouba_ | done |
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21:44.07 | wizard123 | and: chmod +x acpi-helper |
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21:45.01 | bouba_ | ok |
21:45.02 | fachex | hello all!! |
21:45.04 | bouba_ | hi |
21:45.08 | keyra | fachex: hi |
21:45.13 | wizard123 | hi fachex ! |
21:45.17 | bodha | wizard123, helo |
21:45.27 | fachex | bouba_, wizard123 hi!!! |
21:45.39 | wizard123 | ( damn! i'm out of tobacco ) |
21:45.47 | fachex | keyra is so nice, she always say hi :| |
21:45.48 | bodha | time to stop |
21:45.54 | wizard123 | ( so.. pure gras :P ) |
21:46.03 | fachex | hey Thanatermesis! |
21:46.12 | fachex | I've been looking for you |
21:46.16 | bouba_ | wizard is under heavy drugs:D |
21:46.19 | fachex | I need your help |
21:46.26 | keyra | fachex: ask |
21:46.26 | wizard123 | ( if i stop respondig, treat me as one who went to other side ) |
21:46.33 | wizard123 | bouba_: did it work ? |
21:46.39 | bouba_ | NO:((:((:(( |
21:46.50 | wizard123 | ( strange that i'm still able to speak engish ) |
21:46.50 | bouba_ | at mv.. error |
21:46.54 | wizard123 | what ? |
21:46.58 | wizard123 | ehat error? |
21:47.08 | bouba_ | ": No such file or directory" |
21:47.22 | fachex | *thanatermisis! Help! |
21:47.34 | wizard123 | where did you downloaded acpi helper ? |
21:47.42 | bouba_ | my home |
21:47.57 | wizard123 | aaahhh! my grass landed on the floooooor! |
21:48.01 | wizard123 | so... |
21:48.16 | wizard123 | do something like that (as rooot) |
21:48.23 | bouba_ | ok boss |
21:48.26 | bouba_ | whait |
21:48.27 | bouba_ | :P |
21:48.32 | wizard123 | cd ~your_username |
21:48.48 | wizard123 | (that ~ is intended, it is not my imagination) |
21:49.10 | bouba_ | tilda |
21:49.12 | bouba_ | :D |
21:49.49 | wizard123 | yeah |
21:50.38 | bouba_ | nothing... |
21:50.44 | bouba_ | doesn't works |
21:51.03 | wizard123 | damn |
21:51.18 | bouba_ | root@bistio[~]# mv acpi-helper /etc/rc.2d/S20acpi-helper |
21:51.18 | bouba_ | mv: impossibile spostare `acpi-helper' in `/etc/rc.2d/S20acpi-helper': No such file or directory |
21:51.19 | wizard123 | ok, bouba_ let;s start over |
21:51.25 | wizard123 | :D |
21:51.36 | bouba_ | eh? |
21:51.43 | wizard123 | aaaaah! |
21:51.55 | bouba_ | ops:D |
21:51.56 | wizard123 | that dir is called rc2.d not rc.2d |
21:51.56 | wizard123 | ! |
21:52.00 | bouba_ | eheheheh |
21:52.03 | wizard123 | my foult... |
21:52.09 | wizard123 | bouba_: i'm so sorry |
21:52.10 | wizard123 | <PROTECTED> |
21:52.15 | bouba_ | no no it's my error |
21:52.20 | bouba_ | ok now works |
21:52.22 | bouba_ | :D |
21:52.24 | wizard123 | :) |
21:52.27 | wizard123 | good |
21:52.28 | bouba_ | and now?:D |
21:52.50 | wizard123 | now (as root) run: /etc/rc2.d/S20acpi-helper |
21:53.23 | bouba_ | root@bistio[~]# /etc/rc2.d/S20acpi-helper |
21:53.23 | bouba_ | cpufreq_ondemand 6044 0 |
21:53.23 | bouba_ | No scaling governor selected |
21:53.29 | bouba_ | 6044? |
21:53.55 | wizard123 | so.. your cou does not support any of available cpu_frequ drivers |
21:54.12 | bouba_ | really? |
21:54.19 | bouba_ | it's not so old...:( |
21:54.23 | wizard123 | but at least you have all acpi (thermal and soo..) modules loaded |
21:54.25 | bouba_ | my little cpu |
21:54.38 | wizard123 | bouba_: most of 'mobile' cpus support that |
21:54.58 | wizard123 | actually it is not needed under stational systems |
21:55.12 | bouba_ | ok |
21:55.23 | wizard123 | (sorry for my english, i dont know how to say non-laptop) |
21:55.31 | wizard123 | bouba_: what cpu do you have? |
21:55.42 | bouba_ | AthlonXP 1600+ |
21:56.11 | wizard123 | i'mnot sure if it support that |
21:56.25 | wizard123 | i have athlon64 3000+ mobile on my lappy |
21:56.31 | wizard123 | and everything works |
21:56.50 | bouba_ | how can i have info about cpu in linux? cat... right? |
21:56.55 | wizard123 | all centrino, amd64 and newer amd cpus support that |
21:57.02 | wizard123 | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
21:57.06 | bouba_ | ;) |
21:57.29 | wizard123 | but if you have desktop cpu, there si no reason to worry about that |
21:57.54 | wizard123 | everything with cpufreq is about power management |
21:58.24 | bouba_ | but... so with this appz what i can see of my cpu? |
21:59.32 | wizard123 | bouba_: in terminal: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
21:59.46 | wizard123 | you will get the most comprehensive info about your cpu |
21:59.48 | bouba_ | no no, with your |
22:00.01 | wizard123 | my cpu? |
22:00.11 | bouba_ | :D with acpi-helper |
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22:00.48 | wizard123 | bouba_: acpi helper sets loads acpi and cpufrequ modules |
22:01.08 | wizard123 | so.. on mobile cpus it can scale cpu frequency on th fly |
22:01.13 | wizard123 | for example |
22:01.41 | wizard123 | my lappy without it (on 'full 1800MHz) can be powered by battery ~1h |
22:01.54 | wizard123 | with cpufreq i ondemand: ~2h |
22:02.11 | wizard123 | with cpufreq with low power: ~2:20h |
22:03.22 | bouba_ | ahhh ok. but this kind of settings aren't managed by kernel? |
22:05.10 | wizard123 | they are.. _if_ you load apripriate cpufreq modules.. and that is what my script does |
22:05.32 | bouba_ | ok understood |
22:05.37 | wizard123 | :) |
22:05.47 | wizard123 | it is useful for laptops mostly |
22:06.07 | wizard123 | but thana said that it won't be included in5.0 stable |
22:06.22 | bouba_ | bad thana:P |
22:07.08 | wizard123 | (in bsd terminology: current is development version, stable is almost stable version, than they are beta, rc, prereleaseand finally release versions) |
22:07.12 | bouba_ | my brother has a laptop |
22:07.16 | keyra | wizard123: if you want to know about the releases from a first time, take a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail and http://elivecd.org/es/infomail (for your language) |
22:07.27 | wizard123 | but i'm not sure what thana ctuallhy meant :D |
22:07.38 | wizard123 | did thana mean :D |
22:07.48 | wizard123 | damn.. i'm messing english.. |
22:07.52 | wizard123 | bot good |
22:07.56 | bouba_ | :D |
22:08.14 | wizard123 | i'm hungry :D |
22:08.21 | bouba_ | eat grass:D |
22:08.24 | bouba_ | ihihihih |
22:08.33 | wizard123 | good idea |
22:08.39 | wizard123 | i have alot of that crap |
22:08.45 | bouba_ | :D |
22:08.59 | bouba_ | do you have a big garden:D |
22:09.31 | wizard123 | no.. smoking and growing that crap is illegal in poland |
22:09.41 | wizard123 | but my firien had alot of that.. |
22:09.59 | bouba_ | eheheeh i think everywere is illegal:D |
22:10.12 | wizard123 | and he wantedt to stop dmoknig, so he gave me about 0,5 kg :D |
22:10.20 | bouba_ | muahahahah |
22:10.41 | wizard123 | no, small amounts are legal in many european coutries |
22:10.52 | wizard123 | in poland, none |
22:12.07 | bouba_ | :) wizard thanks for the good chat;) now i go to sleep:D. you stop smoking!!!!:D:D:D |
22:12.16 | wizard123 | no no :D |
22:12.19 | bouba_ | eheheheh |
22:12.31 | wizard123 | everything just became gray! |
22:12.37 | wizard123 | good night bouba_ |
22:12.38 | bouba_ | :D |
22:12.44 | keyra | wizard123: good night, sleep well |
22:12.49 | wizard123 | my night will be great :D |
22:13.07 | bouba_ | thanks wizard. :D |
22:13.13 | wizard123 | see you later, skater |
22:13.25 | bouba_ | byyyye;) |
22:19.29 | wizard123 | ok, i'm going to sleep too :D bye all |
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23:00.15 | kilix | help |
23:02.31 | wizard123 | what's up kilix ? |
23:02.39 | kilix | nothing, sorry |
23:02.42 | kilix | :) |
23:02.47 | wizard123 | :) |
23:03.02 | fish-god | False alarm. :P |
23:03.14 | wizard123 | good. i like when users are happy and don't have problems |
23:03.28 | wizard123 | that means that software works good :D |
23:03.43 | fish-god | Yep. |
23:04.10 | wizard123 | i need something to eat.. a thought that i can cheat grass-hunger |
23:04.12 | fish-god | Well, aside from the small .edj desktop image problem I and someone else has. |
23:04.16 | wizard123 | but it si impossible |
23:07.32 | wizard123 | fish-god: edj problem? |
23:08.05 | fish-god | .edj desktop image files don't show up. |
23:08.23 | fish-god | I put them in ~/.e/e/backgrounds and they're not in any of the desktop background changers. |
23:09.03 | wizard123 | could you give me a link with some edj files ? |
23:09.13 | wizard123 | i'll check it out |
23:09.33 | fish-god | the ones on the animated background section at http://get-e.org |
23:10.42 | wizard123 | heh... 'free bsd, the power to serve' |
23:10.55 | wizard123 | perfect background for me :) |
23:11.06 | fish-god | :) |
23:12.31 | wizard123 | yeah.. it won't appear |
23:12.48 | wizard123 | didn't rather |
23:13.12 | fish-god | Bah. |
23:13.24 | wizard123 | ueah.. bah.. |
23:14.02 | fish-god | I like my moving wallpapers. Oh well. Just wait till it gets fixed then. |
23:14.10 | wizard123 | 'selecting another image' does not work |
23:14.17 | wizard123 | maybe it is an e17 bug |
23:14.29 | wizard123 | it is still under heavy developmen |
23:14.30 | fish-god | Mmm. Might be. |
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23:14.53 | wizard123 | and i found so cool freebsd background.. |
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23:17.47 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
23:20.41 | Deformative-II | E17 is bsd lisence, correct? |
23:21.26 | wizard123 | i'm not sure |
23:21.39 | wizard123 | chech on get-e.org |
23:22.59 | wizard123 | fish-god: i couldn't find system-wide dir with backgrounds |
23:23.21 | fish-god | I don't think there is one. I know there's one for themes. |
23:23.34 | wizard123 | i found that |
23:41.43 | wizard123 | ok,i;m going too sleep |
23:42.19 | wizard123 | good night |
23:42.40 | wizard123 | :D |
23:42.56 | keyra | wizard123: good night, sleep well |
23:44.50 | wizard123 | keyra: you and your scripts |