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00:01.22saad3000LinuxNIT: can you help me out with a bug in my soundconfig
00:01.43saad3000LinuxNIT: I have to run alsaconf everytime i reboot, inorder to get the sound running.
00:02.12LinuxNIThmm sounds like the module is not loading on boot
00:02.19LinuxNITdo youknow what module it uses?
00:02.26saad3000yep
00:02.38saad3000I have to run alsaconf to detect it and loads it.
00:02.48saad3000lsmod will do the trick?
00:03.02Thanatermesissaad3000 its a problem of the actual system.... i don't know any solution for this
00:03.03LinuxNITadd that module its own line in /etc/modules and then reboot
00:03.14Thanatermesisjust wait the first versions of BETA for the 0.5 release
00:03.45LinuxNITif its just a module loading wont adding it to /etc/modules fix it?
00:03.54LinuxNIT*not loading :)
00:04.29saad3000lol
00:04.38saad3000k I'll wait.
00:04.50LinuxNITsaad3000, id just try it. its wortha shot
00:05.32LinuxNITbut i could be totally wrong too :) i dont really know all that much :) but it makes sense to me
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00:07.10saad3000LinuxNIT: mm k am not that good too,can you tell me how to know which modules are for the sound that been loaded by alsaconf?
00:07.36LinuxNIToh i thought you said youknew wihc it was
00:07.37LinuxNIThmm
00:07.55saad3000no I run alsaconf and it start loading the modules
00:07.56LinuxNITis it configured right now?
00:08.00LinuxNITk
00:08.07saad3000now its loaded because i ran alsaconf
00:08.07saad3000yes
00:08.53saad3000PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.2 to 64
00:08.55LinuxNITshow me the out put for lspci and pcimodules in pastebin.com
00:09.00saad3000intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 90842 usecs
00:09.00saad3000thats in dmesg
00:09.07saad3000my sound is ac97
00:09.25saad3000k
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00:16.26LinuxNITcrap saad3000 i have to go
00:16.46LinuxNITim supposed to eat with my sis in 45 min and its a 30 min drive
00:16.53LinuxNITim really sorry
00:17.07saad3000http://pastebin.com/571217
00:17.10LinuxNITill try and help ya later tonight if your here
00:17.21saad3000its already night here lol
00:17.25saad3000Sat Feb 25 04:19:40 EET 2006
00:17.25LinuxNITk
00:17.27LinuxNITsorry
00:17.34saad3000ok
00:17.37LinuxNITmaybe tommor
00:17.37saad3000laterz
00:17.50saad3000its k man thanx.
00:18.02LinuxNITtry looking at differences in lsmod before and after runnign alsaconf
00:18.15saad3000alright
00:18.15LinuxNITfind the new one and add to /etc/modules
00:18.20LinuxNITsee if that works
00:18.23saad3000ok
00:18.38LinuxNITbefore adding try modprobing it to make sure it starts the audio
00:18.40LinuxNIT:)
00:18.41LinuxNITlater
00:18.47saad3000yah k
00:19.27LinuxNITsorry i really hate runnign out on people ilike this
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00:22.43b1ufoxhye all :)
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00:24.04b1ufoxhow can i do it in elive ?
00:29.16b1ufoxany idea people ?
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00:36.22SteveMyersquick question for the guru's of E17/E16
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00:36.38SteveMyersHow do you change the engage icon paths?
00:36.46Thanatermesisapt elpanel SteveMyers
00:36.47aptelpanel elpanel elpanel, this is the answer to your question and the solution of all your problems, try it SteveMyers ;)
00:36.59SteveMyerslol
00:38.15SteveMyersI click on the look'n feel "the monitor to the left" of elpanel and chose entrangle, but apparently this did not work...is their a shortcut?
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00:38.47Thanatermesismaybe is broken... entangle not is very maintained...
00:39.01Thanatermesisfor e16 you have a perfectly working tool... engage-manager ;) (from elpanel)
00:39.44SteveMyersyeah, it's b0rked
00:39.55SteveMyersthanks for the help Thananter :)
00:40.04Thanatermesiswelcome :)
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01:10.43saad3000LinuxNIT-: it didn;t work.
01:11.11saad3000How do I make alsa run on boot and closes on shutdown?
01:12.05Thanatermesisthis is the default
01:12.17Thanatermesismaybe you need to disable it for try if works or not
01:12.25saad3000Thanatermesis: if i do /etc/init.d/alsa reload
01:12.30saad3000the sound works
01:12.40Thanatermesishum
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01:13.05saad3000Thanatermesis: I loaded all the drivers that alsa uses in /etc/modules and it didn't work.
01:14.00saad3000/etc/init.d/alsa reload
01:14.00saad3000Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0m snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc.
01:14.03saad3000Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0m snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc.
01:14.08saad3000this loads the sound.
01:14.57Thanatermesisgive me a second...
01:15.01saad3000oke
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01:23.20b1ufoxi dont need all of the services  how can i choose which one to select in elive ..
01:23.56b1ufoxinfedora i can easily use setup or ntsysv utility to choose which services i need to be started at boot time
01:24.05b1ufoxhow will i do so in elive ?
01:27.57saad3000shit how do I kill a Zombi process?
01:30.36Thanatermesissaad3000 try "chmod -x /etc/init.d/alsa" and try to reboot... maybe works
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01:32.06saad3000Thanatermesis: alright
01:32.42Elive_userhey, i just installed elive, how come entrance wont load, and how can i make it start? I'm in e16, but i want to be in e17
01:33.58Elive_userthanatermesis, you got any wisdom for me?
01:34.56ThanatermesisElive_user just installed Elive 0.4 final version and entrance don't loads ?
01:35.10Thanatermesisoh.. e17... do you have upgrade the repository after install ?
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01:35.37Elive_userok, apt-get upgrade and update?
01:36.05Thanatermesisno... is a question, do you have upgraded the system after install ?
01:36.42Elive_userno, just loaded.. but the other day on another computer it worked fine
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01:36.59saad3000Thanatermesis: no luck.
01:37.14ThanatermesisElive_user select e17 from the menu.. in the bottom
01:37.39Thanatermesissaad3000 then you need to add a script for launch this command... on /etc/rc2.d/ and call it S90alsarestore
01:37.49Elive_userbut thats the thing, entrance wont load up, i have to log in from the terminal then type in the command startx
01:38.29saad3000mmm
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01:39.40Elive_userhang on, i think i found it.
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01:53.25Elive_user26any tips on how to install to the hd...im getting no patition selected after the install complets
01:54.32Elive_user26also which file system do you recommend?
01:54.46GPLGeekIs langconf run in X or in CLI?
01:54.57Elive_user26version 0.4 final
01:55.15GPLGeekbecause when I'm in X it sais it can not be run in graphical mode and when I'm in CLI it sais it can't use gtk
01:55.23GPLGeekelive_user26 reiserfs rocks
01:55.40Elive_user26ok, why wont it install to the hd any ideas?
01:56.31ThanatermesisElive_user26 SATA ?
01:56.33Thanatermesishi GPLGeek
01:56.37Elive_user26no pata
01:56.40GPLGeekhi
01:56.48Thanatermesispata ? this is again another new ?
01:56.51Thanatermesisapt pata
01:56.54Elive_user26ide
01:57.01Elive_userThanatermesis, I'm still not able to get entrance to run, any commands from the command line that will make it run?
01:57.02Thanatermesiside.. what is the problem then ?
01:57.10ThanatermesisElive_user26 try to upgrade the installer first
01:57.34Elive_user26im running the latest release already
01:57.37ThanatermesisElive_user i don't understand how is posible to not have entrance running.. you have reboot the machine, correct ?
01:57.58ThanatermesisElive_user26 do you look you partitions on the partitioner ?
01:58.06Elive_user26yes
01:58.10Elive_user26its up now
01:58.19Elive_userThantermesis yes... I have to say though, there was one discrepancy in the way elive was configured...
01:58.56Elive_userThanatermesis, the sound was configured this time, but last time it wasnt
01:59.03Elive_user26hda1 is the only partition formated in rieserfs
02:00.14ThanatermesisElive_user26 and after, when ask about the root partition what happens ?
02:00.36ThanatermesisElive_user mmmmmh, try to exit from X and launch the command "entrance", look what message appears
02:01.23Elive_userThanatermesis, it doesnt say anything
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02:01.56Elive_userwe tried that already, it just goes to the next command
02:01.58ThanatermesisElive_user apt-get update ; apt-cache policy eliveinstaller ... it says to the candidate and the installed is a diferent version ?
02:02.22ThanatermesisElive_user try to make a SWAP partition,a  root partition and a home partition... maybe it works better
02:02.32Elive_userwe did
02:02.40Elive_userwe got a swap, root, then home
02:02.51Elive_userand an ntfs for m$
02:03.58Elive_userbut when we log out of the user, it doesnt go into entrance, it goes straight the the verbose command line
02:04.08Elive_usersame with root of course
02:04.43Elive_useris there any way to load e17 without going through entrance?
02:05.46Thanatermesismmmh... how is posible to entrance dont' works ? in the 0.4 final version ? ...
02:05.54Elive_useryeah
02:06.00Thanatermesiswhen you don't are on X, what happens if you type "entrance" from root ?
02:06.13Elive_userit is very weird, i hadn't come up on it on my other computer
02:06.18Elive_userwait...
02:06.31Elive_userwhile in x, in the terminal type entrance?
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02:07.58Elive_userthank you alot
02:08.01Elive_userit works now.
02:10.06Thanatermesis:/
02:25.45ThanatermesisGPLGeek do you know where i can be posible to buy a amd64 machine ?
02:25.51Thanatermesis2º hand maybe ?
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02:43.42Elive_userok have elive installed to the hdd, enlightenment 16.....when i open xfe i only see binary code,  any ideas?
02:45.08Elive_userlike a font package i should install?
02:47.20GPLGeekThanatermesis, im back
02:47.29GPLGeekThanatermesis, how much will you have to spend?
02:47.39Thanatermesisfor this moments just imagine :/
02:47.45GPLGeekThanatermesis, and where will you need it shipped?
02:47.46Thanatermesisbut i want a really powered machine
02:47.53Thanatermesisbelgium
02:48.20ThanatermesisElive_user your bug is listed on the bugs sections of the webpage
02:48.20GPLGeekLet me check
02:48.26Thanatermesisapt elive-bugs
02:48.32aptextra, extra, read all about it, elive-bugs is first look on http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ , please make a look before ask
02:48.47GPLGeekUsually we can get things cheep in the .us but I don't know if it will still be cheep after shipping it to belgium
02:49.50Thanatermesisi want a very more powered machine for work... principally with VERY ram and high cache of cpu
02:50.15GPLGeekIt's 220$ for a motherboard and AMD64 3700+, about 220$ for 4x 512MB (so 2gb total) DDR, the CPU has good cashe
02:50.23GPLGeek2000FSB
02:51.12Thanatermesisfsb ?
02:51.13Thanatermesisapt fsb
02:51.14apthmm... fsb is the Free Software Business email list. Lots of top brass, and great free software thinkers post there: like Tim O'Reilly, RMS, Brian Behlendorf(apache), Michael Tiemann (Cygnus, egcs), Frank Hecker (netscape mozilla dude), and others. Have a read. It's does the free software body good, and may help you find a way to make good and honest money while ...
02:51.33GPLGeekthe motherboard has a radeon video card on it (x200) but you can add a radion x1300 with 256MB PCI-E (which is really fast) for 99$
02:51.39GPLGeekFSB = Front Side Bus
02:52.03GPLGeekAnd the AMD's have on chip memory controller =)
02:52.05Thanatermesisnot is expensive the radeon...
02:52.21Thanatermesishow many slots of RAM ?
02:52.40GPLGeek120 Case & 550W PSU X-connect
02:52.44GPLGeek4 slots for ram
02:52.56Thanatermesisi want more than 2 gb of ram
02:52.58GPLGeekfill them with 4 512mb chips
02:53.02GPLGeekoh really?
02:53.06GPLGeekhow much? 4gb?
02:53.14Thanatermesismaybe 4 gb is good, yes
02:53.37GPLGeek4 1gb ram is 380$
02:53.56Thanatermesis4 gb in 4 slots = 380 ?
02:56.17GPLGeekhard drive 250GB Sata x2 (500GB total on raid) is 170$
02:56.31GPLGeekyes Thanatermesis 4 1gb ddr is 380
02:56.40Thanatermesissata ? :S
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02:56.54GPLGeekserial ata is good
02:56.55GPLGeekFAST
02:57.10Thanatermesisfast ? more than ide ? i don't think...
02:57.24GPLGeekSata and SataII are faster than ATA
02:57.29GPLGeekI have tested
02:57.32Thanatermesisif we have more fast hard disks maybe... but the speed are limited by the hard disk
02:57.51GPLGeekand the wires are thin so they are out of the way of your airflow
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02:58.19GPLGeekDVD RW Burner 16x 36$
02:58.23GPLGeekgood brand
02:58.25GPLGeekNEC
02:58.46atomicalhi guys
02:58.52GPLGeekhi atomical
02:59.06GPLGeekThanatermesis, the motherboard comes with gigabit lan I think
02:59.38Thanatermesisi don't really need all the extra things (big ethernet, cd/dvd devices.. etc), just the motherboard, RAM, cpu... and the essentials
02:59.43atomicalwho is the person i need to speak to about hosting the elive cd via http/ftp
02:59.47Thanatermesisi want just the powered box :)
03:00.02Thanatermesisme atomical :)
03:00.35atomicalthantemesis: ahh ok, so do you still need hosting for the cd
03:01.00Thanatermesisyes atomical, we want mirrors... we don't have sufficients actually for include on the webpage
03:01.08GPLGeekhttp://pastebin.com/571385 , Thanatermesis
03:01.30Thanatermesisim trying to set a rsync server for the ISO's to the mirrors, maybe tomorrow it works
03:02.03GPLGeekThanatermesis,  you would also have to pay for shipping and I'm not sure if you will get taxed having that stuff shipped to belgium
03:02.16atomicalcool, well i may just have some spare bandwidth for you :)
03:02.17GPLGeekI think 17% tax plus 9% tax if I remember
03:02.57GPLGeekso probably about 1800 after shipping and tax
03:03.08GPLGeekwhich then makes it expensive
03:03.40GPLGeek1 509.054 Euro
03:03.53Thanatermesisthanks atomical, this is very good :) just the thing of we want
03:04.06GPLGeekThanatermesis, Isn't that too much to spend?
03:04.18Thanatermesisyes GPLGeek :/
03:04.20atomicalso do you have many mirrors?
03:04.22Thanatermesisand actually not posible lol
03:04.40Thanatermesisatomical actually only 3, i don't post it because not is sufficient
03:05.14Thanatermesisi like to put all in the same time... no one or 2 today and another the next week...
03:05.32Thanatermesisi don't want to broke any poor bandwitch lol
03:05.42atomicallol cool
03:07.07ThanatermesisGPLGeek who sell it ? you ?
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03:07.27GPLGeekThanatermesis, i would have to buy it here and then UPS it to you. lol
03:07.33GPLGeekbecause they will not ship to belgium
03:09.22Thanatermesismmmh... i have look some time before good links of big sellers on belgium.. i have look very good pieces
03:09.59GPLGeekThere are no belgium venders?
03:10.23Thanatermesisi don't know... i have lost this links :/
03:12.13GPLGeekThanatermesis, i dont use more than 2gb memory ever unless compressing things
03:12.34GPLGeekeven compiling lol
03:12.42Thanatermesisyou don't imagine my processes on my actual machine GPLGeek ;) lol
03:13.18GPLGeekThanatermesis, how much would it cost to ship 30LBs to belgium from san francisco?
03:13.37Thanatermesismy actual machine supports all of i can make on it... but i want more... i want to not wait any thing... the machine needs to wait me (this is really hard lol)
03:13.56GPLGeektell me your system stats
03:13.56Thanatermesisno idea... but is expensive :/
03:14.22Thanatermesis1400 Mhz + 1 gb actually, i have 500 mb of ram the last month
03:14.38Thanatermesisand my machine of tests for Elive is a 360 Mhz with 64 ram
03:14.50GPLGeekThanatermesis, i have 4 computers. I set one up for web/gaming one for compiling/compressing and one for people to ssh in
03:14.59GPLGeekand the other for testing
03:15.01Thanatermesisanother machine of tests of installations is just a 500 Mhz with 256 of ram
03:15.11GPLGeekmost of the time I only have one of them on. but sometimes I need all of them
03:15.40Thanatermesisi make all from this machine
03:16.16GPLGeekso a AMD64 3000 and a nvidia 6600 with 2gb of ram would be better than all of yours put together lol
03:16.23GPLGeekand those are cheep
03:16.35Thanatermesisthe Elive iso's, the packages, write programs, main repository of Elive sync'ed daily, various webpage, virtual machines... i don't know.. all!
03:16.47Jambonget a amd64 x2 then
03:17.06Thanatermesisall running in the same time, i have just finished to build the new packages for the repository some minutes ago... in 30 minutes the upload to idefix are finished
03:17.16Jambonat least the x2 3800
03:21.25GPLGeekThanatermesis, i just got you a vender!
03:22.12GPLGeekI made some calls and I can order the stuff in .us and ship to belgium for about 50-60 Euros or get cheeper shipping by ordering from the .co.uk store
03:23.03GPLGeekhttp://www.misco.co.uk/ (UK) and TigerDirect.com (US)
03:23.19GPLGeekmisco is the parent company of tigerdirect
03:23.21Thanatermesissounds good... but i think to for this moments not is posible lol
03:25.58Thanatermesisdon't looks bad the amd64 X2... 2mb of cache of cpu...
03:26.27Thanatermesisi have look a SPARC machine in 800 Mhz of processor and 8 Mb of cache, im sure to its a very powered and good machine =)
03:27.14Thanatermesisor a SGI maybe
03:27.34GPLGeekThe amd64 and the x2 are nice
03:28.00GPLGeekbut sometimes it's better to get dual opteron than a x2
03:28.52Thanatermesishttp://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-Processor-module-for-SGI-Origin-3000-400MHZ-8MB-NR_W0QQitemZ6851856665QQcategoryZ164QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
03:28.54Thanatermesis=)
03:29.12Thanatermesiswhat is the specs of the opteron's ?
03:30.07GPLGeekit depends on each one
03:30.14GPLGeeklet me go see
03:30.21atomicalsorry bout that thanatermesis :) i just had to run off, now where we we
03:30.47Thanatermesisnp atomical :)
03:31.06GPLGeekthey at least have 1mb cashe
03:31.12GPLGeekeach
03:32.00Thanatermesisapt x en es at least
03:32.00Thanatermesisposible more ?
03:32.01GPLGeekits nice to have 2 dual core opterons
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03:32.20GPLGeek>= 1mb cashe
03:33.00yawlrightwhere would i list suggestions for future releases?
03:33.37ThanatermesisGPLGeek look this, 300 Mhz machine with 2 Mb of cache, hehe http://cgi.ebay.de/TOP-SGI-Octane-300MHz-2048MB-2x-9-GB-mit-ESSI_W0QQitemZ5869786591QQcategoryZ22463QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
03:33.54Thanatermesisyawlright maybe in the wiki page
03:34.11Thanatermesisyawlright wait, i prepare a page...
03:35.11Thanatermesisyawlright, see 4º line:  http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/WikiStart
03:36.12GPLGeekyou need less cashe if you are faster
03:36.30GPLGeekso sometimes the 1mb cashe on a 3700 amd64 will beat 2mb on a sparc
03:36.34GPLGeekolder sparcs that is
03:37.10ThanatermesisGPLGeek what about use PS3 to a cpu ? :)
03:37.22GPLGeeklol
03:37.30GPLGeekIt will be good
03:37.35GPLGeeksony is going to ship it with linux
03:38.20GPLGeekIt will be a "complete home multimedia and internet workstation" game console.
03:38.23Thanatermesisyes, aparently has linux installed
03:38.39GPLGeeki wonder what linux it is?
03:38.43GPLGeekI hope debian!
03:38.57Thanatermesisno idea... but if has linux you can posible then to put any linux easy :)
03:39.34Thanatermesisbut im not sure about this processor... aparently is good "only" for render things... not is good for use to a "normal computer" (multi processes, diferents calls etc..)
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03:43.19EvilChipmunkanyone know if E17 should be out by the end of 06
03:45.46yawlrightapt e17
03:45.48apte17 is, like, IN DEVELOPEMENT
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03:46.19Thanatermesis:)
03:48.54ThanatermesisGPLGeek what do you think about this processor ?  http://cgi.ebay.de/AMD-Opteron-165-Prozessor-boxed_W0QQitemZ6852335505QQcategoryZ78778QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
03:50.16GPLGeekThanatermesis, I want that
03:50.49GPLGeekwith opterons you need to make sure if its a cpu for a dual cpu system or a single cpu system
03:50.57GPLGeekor even quad cpu system lol
03:51.11GPLGeekjust make sure the motherboard supports it
03:51.35Thanatermesisyes
03:51.45Thanatermesiswhy you want this cpu ? because the cache ?
03:52.04GPLGeekITS FAST
03:52.18GPLGeekbetter than a X2
03:52.50Thanatermesisyes, this is what i have ear :)
03:53.42Jambonactually the opterons are almost identical to the fx series
03:53.48Jambonif not the same chip
03:53.53Jambonjust rebranded
03:54.13Jambonand usually a bit cheaper
03:54.18GPLGeekI heard it was not the same wafer
03:54.39Jambonmaybe, but a while back i checked the specs and they're the same
03:54.47Jamboncould have changed by now though
03:55.04GPLGeekFX is more expensive than the opterons
03:55.15GPLGeekat least in the magazines I am looking at
03:55.23Jambonya
03:55.43GPLGeekbut the opteron was 5.8 % faster
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04:01.35GPLGeekThey say the new need for speed demo works on elive. I'm going to try to get some screenshots
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04:02.30Elive_user66lee
04:02.33ThanatermesisGPLGeek but you have look to the Mhz of this cpu is 1800 Mhz
04:03.22Thanatermesis165
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04:03.55Elive_user2Notice: you need to exit from the graphical interface to change the settings. as they relate to the font problem, hmmmm
04:04.02GPLGeekThanatermesis, it will be faster han a 3400mhz P4
04:04.02Elive_user66Hello everyone.
04:04.17Thanatermesishow to posible ? =)
04:04.37Elive_user2trying to change the language settings to get the correct font in terminal, and its not letting me
04:04.53ThanatermesisElive_user2 don't select the FIRST english option
04:05.03Elive_user2ive already installed to late
04:05.14Elive_user2and i dont remember any font options anyway on the install
04:05.23GPLGeekThanatermesis, my AMD64 3700+ is 2.2Ghz and beats a P4 3.2ghz HT Extreme Gamer Limited Edition. The 3700+ is over 2 times faster than the Intel.
04:05.37ThanatermesisElive_user2 don't select the FIRST english option, is bugged
04:05.59Elive_user2and i told you to late its already install to the default font
04:06.24ThanatermesisElive_user2 what font ? the font of the terminal ?
04:06.35Elive_user2english C
04:06.55ThanatermesisElive_user2 mmmh, change it, launch elpanel and select another english option (scroll down)
04:06.56Elive_user2i just did a default install not expecting any problems, now that i do have problems what is the correct work around?
04:07.00GPLGeeksudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
04:07.10Elive_user2did that, did not fix it
04:07.18Thanatermesis*sigh*
04:07.23GPLGeektype langconf&
04:07.26GPLGeekreboot
04:07.33ThanatermesisElive_user2 you have exit from the graphical system after to select another ?
04:07.49Elive_user2i upgraded the lanconf rebooted and still have the same problem
04:07.52GPLGeekthat fixed it for me
04:08.08ThanatermesisElive_user2 after to upgrade, then reconfigure your language with elpanel
04:08.14Thanatermesisor langconf, is the same
04:08.39ThanatermesisGPLGeek maybe the model 165 sounds a good option :)
04:08.51Elive_user2ive already been thru this, language conf from e panel will not let me make chages while in the gui, and being as terminals are fucked up, i cant do anything from command line
04:09.14ThanatermesisElive_user2 do you have tried to exit from the graphical system ?
04:09.31Elive_user2how do i exit
04:09.42Thanatermesissearch in the menu
04:09.46Thanatermesis"logout"
04:10.05Elive_user2tht just takes back to a login screen
04:10.20ThanatermesisElive_user2 try:  control  +  alt  +  backspace
04:10.31Elive_user2ok thanks
04:10.53Thanatermesis*sigh*
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04:11.57Elive_user2ctl alt backspace just reboots the login screen
04:12.13Thanatermesisand your terminal ?
04:12.16Thanatermesisis good now ?
04:12.27Elive_user2i havent changed any settings
04:12.56Thanatermesisthen launch langconf, select another english than no is the first option, and restart your X
04:13.05Elive_user2grrrr most buggy distro
04:13.24Elive_user2dude i just told you i cant get out of the gui
04:13.27ThanatermesisElive_user2 apt-get install windows ;)
04:13.43Thanatermesisi think to linux not is your world Elive_user2
04:13.44Elive_user2apt-get install real_debian
04:13.48ThanatermesisElive_user2 do it
04:14.07Elive_user2i think you need english speaking developers
04:14.15Thanatermesisand you need a brain
04:15.41GPLGeek=) I'm getting 1MB/S download speed right now on 2 files! thats 2MB/s down!!!!!
04:15.48pycsElive_user2, is the most impatient user ive seen :)
04:15.53GPLGeekand listening to essence
04:16.10WildChilddang
04:16.24WildChildElive_user2 was hardcore
04:16.24GPLGeekSupposedly it is NOT POSSIBLE for my connection to go that fast
04:16.35GPLGeekFUD users suck
04:16.50Thanatermesisim really tired of this type of new users... i don't know from where enter but everytime has more on this channel
04:17.13WildChild=/
04:17.34Thanatermesisreally... im too tired
04:17.46GPLGeekthey dont appreciate that what you have done here is amazing and we are only on .4 lol
04:17.57GPLGeekThey expect a final version
04:17.58WildChildthey can rot in hell
04:18.01WildChildmouahhaa (6)
04:18.04GPLGeekya
04:18.19GPLGeekand I told him before how to fix his problems
04:18.25pycsThanatermesis, just cool down, don't let them get into your nerve... :)
04:18.27Thanatermesisthis fucking bug of the terminals is because langconf program has this option bugged... langconf not is a Elive program, and in any case, is actually perfectly fixed and posted on the webpage
04:18.28GPLGeekeven offered to DO IT FOR HIM
04:19.06Thanatermesispycs not easy...
04:19.08WildChildGPLGeek, just to tell how mthis distro is cool ,, Im ready to throw away my gentoo for elive :)
04:19.25GPLGeekFor as mean and stubborn as these fuckers are you would think you sold them a broken product. but its a free beta!
04:19.33pycsThanatermesis , yeah i know... :)
04:19.53GPLGeekWildChild, I threw away gentoo for debian
04:20.05WildChildI dont like debian
04:20.06WildChildtho
04:20.10GPLGeekelive is like a debian but better!
04:20.18WildChildyeah I know :)
04:20.27Thanatermesissimilar to in the wiki page... i have found a BLOG POST (no a question on the forum), about a user to has problems in Elive because i don't know what has make with grub to not has installed it or has installed middle and after has make another thing and actually don't has 2 things on the actual grub....
04:20.36Thanatermesiswhat do you think to i think when i read this pycs ?
04:20.39Thanatermesisin a BLOG POST
04:21.19WildChildwell GPLGeek its better for me to go on elive , because I developped for it :)
04:21.23Thanatermesisi think: ok, then i don't include a automatic GRUB with detection of another distros for entry atomatically it, i don't add ALSO a GUI editor of grub menu on elpanel...
04:21.29Thanatermesisnow... i just put a message
04:21.32Thanatermesissaying:
04:21.44pycs:)
04:21.55yawlrightapt blog
04:22.00aptrumour has it, blog is a weblog, or a webdiary
04:22.00GPLGeekI dont have enough free time to develop for it but I think I can help in chat
04:22.00ThanatermesisElive don't has more automated things, now you need to put all manually, please install grub for you can posible to boot Elive
04:22.20GPLGeek(when I am not tired lol, the last 3 days I had 6 hours sleep and last night I got 5 hours finally)
04:22.24Thanatermesisnext message: don't forget to add all your another distros on your menu.
04:22.55WildChildwell , if you guys are willing to help trough debian world , I'm ready to dive ;)
04:22.56Thanatermesismmmh... im thinkin about deinstall XORG
04:23.16Thanatermesisbecause we have the risk of some monitors and graphic cards not are detected or works perfectly in the first try
04:23.22Thanatermesisok... i delete XORG
04:23.24GPLGeekI had a problem with grub not working when I installed from the Livecd, but it was no issue because I could boot with livecd, reinstall and configure grub, and reboot in less than 2 min!
04:23.32Thanatermesisi just put a message saying "install xorg and configure it for your system"
04:23.35GPLGeekSo any sane user would not have such problems
04:23.43pycsThanatermesis , you going back xfree86?
04:24.08GPLGeekor just xorg 6.8 works fine.
04:24.11GPLGeeklol
04:24.35Thanatermesisno pycs ... i delete completly the graphical system
04:24.55Thanatermesisthen the user needs to install it, and if has a problem, then not is the fault of Elive
04:25.03WildChildlol
04:25.27ThanatermesisWildChild yes, this is the problem, for example the language configurator
04:25.43WildChildwell
04:25.45WildChildat least
04:25.51Thanatermesiswhy i include a EASY graphical cnofigurator for the languages, saying the name of your country and all...
04:25.53WildChildim not blaming anyone for this bug :)
04:26.08Thanatermesisif exist  ONLY ONE  to are bugged... then is better to not include it
04:26.38Thanatermesisplease "dpkg-reconfgiure your locales and select your strange chars, for example    ejso_WEWASW@DOLLAR-UTF-8.euro-Euro
04:27.08Thanatermesisthis sounds better for the end user.. then don't flamme
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04:27.19pycsThanatermesis, LoL, not a good idea, if a user has no internet, in a remote site, then he can't install elive :)
04:27.34pycswith gui
04:28.10pycsor substitute it with xvesa?
04:28.12Thanatermesisthe only thing to i say is to im really tired of this "new style of users"
04:28.16GPLGeekThanatermesis, wine broken so I will download and compile my own for the screenshots.
04:28.56ThanatermesisGPLGeek and debian not has any upgrade ? maybe installing from unstable version=?
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04:39.16Striderhi...
04:39.50Strideranybody home?
04:39.55Striderapt beer
04:39.56aptbeer is probably ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!... not just for breakfast anymore
04:40.00ThanatermesisStrider you can upgrade now, new packages are on the repository
04:40.25StriderThanatermesis, the upgrade says it will remove an essential package???
04:40.42Thanatermesiswhat package Strider ?
04:41.33StriderI don't know...it warns  doing this upgrade will remove an essential package for the system operation...I started to do it then thought I better ask you first
04:42.08ThanatermesisStrider paste me all the messages on www.pastebin.com
04:42.42StriderEssential packages will be removed.
04:42.43StriderThis may render your system unusable!
04:42.52Striderthis is the warning
04:43.21Striderit doesnt tell me which package it is though...
04:44.41Striderand I stopped the upgrade and specified only elive upgrade and the message warning is still there....
04:45.29Thanatermesislet me check this...
04:45.44Thanatermesisin any case not is sufficient information...
04:45.53Thanatermesisapt-get update   or   apt-get dist-ugprade  you make ?
04:46.05Striderusing synaptic
04:46.18Thanatermesisaha... entrance are deinstalled...
04:46.23Thanatermesiswhy ? let me check this..
04:46.38Thanatermesisi have set entrance to a essential package... for "not remove accidentally" ;)
04:47.38Striderok not a problem then...
04:48.03Thanatermesisasdf@elive[/packages/debootstrap/tmp/debfinales]$ buscar entrance
04:48.03Thanatermesis./entrance-NOT-COMPILED
04:48.16Thanatermesisheh, aparently entrance not has compiled this time lol
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04:48.51StriderI started the update...
04:49.12ThanatermesisStrider no.. wait, entrance not is posible to upgrade
04:50.17StriderI stopped it and apt-get clean  ...
04:50.38Striderso, I didn't upgrade
04:50.51Striderwhew
04:50.53Thanatermesisjust wait a second... i package it soon ;)
04:51.04Strideralmost completed...b4 I stopped it
04:54.22Striderit is a good thing I help you   LOL  better to make the mistake with me first....then , I can tell you quick
04:54.45Thanatermesisnot is really a problem..
04:54.51Thanatermesisyou have just the entrance removed then
04:54.54Thanatermesisthis is all
04:55.03Thanatermesisand you just need to install it if exist a package
04:55.11GPLGeekThanatermesis, do we have exec-shield of prelink active?
04:55.31Thanatermesisthe problem is for some newbee end-user to if looks the black console turns totally crazy and scared
04:55.52Thanatermesissimilar to we last Elive_user2  :)
04:56.09Thanatermesisthis is just why i have set this package "essential", for not remove it accidentaly
04:56.22ThanatermesisGPLGeek what ?
04:56.27Elive_userHelp, elive caused my computer to catch fire
04:56.35Elive_userAHH IM BURNING
04:56.37Elive_usernoob on a stick
04:57.12Thanatermesislol
04:57.34GPLGeekThanatermesis, oh nm, I'll figure it out
05:00.03StriderThanatermesis, did you know there was a write-up about elive in LinuxFormat magazine last month??
05:01.39ThanatermesisStrider linuxformat ? mmmh... in don't remember about this name...
05:02.53ThanatermesisGPLGeek if i have a more powered computer... entrance compiled on some seconds and no 5 minutes =)
05:03.07Thanatermesismaybe a amd64 with the 165 model of cpu :)
05:03.21ThanatermesisMaking MD5 files
05:03.21Thanatermesisdpkg-deb: building package `entrance' in `/tmp/entrance_cvs20060225_i386.deb'.
05:03.26Thanatermesisthanks make-deb :)
05:03.28Thanatermesisapt make-deb
05:03.34Thanatermesis:o
05:03.51StriderYep, LinuxFormat January edition  page 31   The article is called "It's Alive" and it is about Elive....
05:04.35Thanatermesisapt make-deb is MAKE-DEB !!! this is the POWERFULL packager for Elive, make-deb is FAST, customizable, featured, interactive, atomatizable, colored, beautiful... make-deb powa !!!!
05:04.36aptThanatermesis: I think you lost me on that one
05:04.42Thanatermesisapt stupid bot
05:04.43aptno, stupid thanatermesis
05:04.48Thanatermesisapt make-deb is MAKE-DEB !!! this is the POWERFULL packager for Elive, make-deb is FAST, customizable, featured, interactive, atomatizable, colored, beautiful... make-deb powa
05:04.49aptI think you lost me on that one, Thanatermesis
05:04.49ThanatermesisxD
05:05.00Thanatermesisapt make-deb is MAKE-DEB, yeah ! this is the POWERFULL packager for Elive, make-deb is FAST, customizable, featured, interactive, atomatizable, colored, beautiful... make-deb powa
05:05.02aptThanatermesis: okay
05:05.10Thanatermesisapt good bot :)
05:05.10aptThanatermesis: aw, gee
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05:05.16Thanatermesisapt i give you a cookie ;)
05:05.18aptYou give you a cookie ;)?
05:05.30Thanatermesisapt yes, i give you a cookie :)
05:05.31aptYou give you a cookie :)?
05:05.31StriderLOL
05:05.37ThanatermesisxD
05:05.44LinuxNITapt is confused
05:05.45aptAnd you're an idiot, linuxnit.
05:05.46Thanatermesisapt do you like Elive ?
05:05.47aptyes, I like Elive.
05:05.50LinuxNIThehehe
05:05.51ThanatermesisxD
05:05.59LinuxNITapt is an idiot
05:06.00Thanatermesisapt you love Elive ?
05:06.03StriderThanatermesis, LinuxFormat is a very good magazine to recommend Elive...
05:06.12ThanatermesisStrider do you have any link ?
05:07.42Striderhttp://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=5
05:08.03Striderlook at january edition  you will see elive0.3
05:08.39StriderI have the article too...
05:09.17StriderI can scan it and send a .tif of ot to you
05:09.28Strider*it
05:10.29StriderReviews: Firefox 1.5 (ACo), Parallels Workstation 2.0 (GM), VMware Workstation 5.5 (GM), JBuilder 2006 Enterprise (GM), AbiWord 2.4 (PH)
05:10.29StriderBooks: Java After Hours (SD)
05:10.29StriderDistrowatch: Clogged download servers, distro update systems, Elive 0.3
05:10.56Thanatermesismmmh... where we can be posible to read the article ?
05:11.16StriderI can scan it and send you a .tif copy of it
05:11.22Thanatermesisi think to i have look this review on the shop behind my house... maybe has this review ? =)
05:11.38ThanatermesisStrider is good the article ?
05:11.43Strideryes...
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05:12.17StriderIt is how I found out about elive...so don't be hard on "end-users" like me   LOL
05:12.58Striderdo you want me to copy and send it to you?
05:13.28yawlrighthttp://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/SuggeStions put up a few things for a start
05:14.11ThanatermesisStrider i don't hard with you... im just with a little feeling with a user to has enter some minutes before.. stupid users with stupid mentality... i hate this
05:14.40ThanatermesisStrider i remember the logo of the review of december... i think to i have this review on belgium.. i try to sell one tomorrow :)
05:14.56Thanatermesisthanks yawlright, i make a look after (after sleep, is late)
05:14.58StriderI am just joke...  truly you get some dumb people in here
05:15.30roxville<Elive_user2> i think you need english speaking developers
05:15.36roxville<Thanatermesis> and you need a brain
05:16.06pycs;)
05:16.22Thanatermesisroxville we have tried to help he with the "strange chars on the terminal" bug but he the only thing to know is to speak bad "elive is buggy, Elive is crapp"... etc
05:16.42pycsthat user does not understand plain english i bet... :)
05:17.01roxvilleyeah, it's amazing... some ppl are IN THIS WORLD just to complain
05:17.30quamaretto>_>; they've discovered our plan!
05:17.33quamarettoABORT MISSION
05:18.03roxvillelol quamaretto
05:18.21StriderThanatermesis, do you want me to copy the article and send it to your upload page??
05:19.15ThanatermesisStrider perfect, entrance builded again :) upgrade the repository now ;)
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05:19.36ThanatermesisStrider thanks, but i try first to buy a original review, i like to have it in original if is posible :)
05:19.47Striderokeedokee
05:20.16Striderit is the January 2006 #75 edition
05:21.46StriderLinuxFormat is a fantastic magazine...I love it...
05:22.22StriderI go and come back...byebye
05:22.41Striderapt beer
05:22.42aptbeer is probably not just for breakfast anymore
05:22.51Striderapt girls
05:22.53aptthe root of all evil
05:23.04Striderok I have wisdom now...
05:23.43Thanatermesisapt x en es wisdom
05:23.53Mutacionholitaz ppl
05:24.01Thanatermesisholaz muta
05:24.07dererkNas muta
05:24.12quidam-wenas ppl
05:24.12Mutacionese dereq
05:24.12quidam-xD
05:24.15Mutacionese quidam
05:24.22quidam-Mutacion, holas
05:24.32Mutacionse dice.. qiubole w :P
05:24.38quidam-naaaaa
05:24.40quidam-por cierto
05:24.49quidam-el jueves estuve en una charla de un mx xP
05:24.59quidam-dijo de todo incluyendo "bronca"
05:25.01quidam-xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
05:25.07Mutacionhahahhaha
05:25.15roxvillehey Mutacion :)
05:25.20Mutacionqiubole rox
05:25.22roxvillehi quidam-
05:25.26Mutacionhoy toco casa llena :P all ppl are here
05:25.28roxville:)
05:25.34quidam-roxville, nas :D
05:25.40Mutaciontoday we got.. full house jiji
05:26.32Mutacionhehe no para tanto
05:26.38Mutacioncreo qe ya me ire..no hay mucho qe hacer :s
05:26.46Mutacionbueno si hay mucho pero pos la vdd no lo sep
05:27.05roxvillesounds like a plan!
05:27.05quidam-pues yo estoy de fiesta aca
05:27.06quidam-xD
05:28.11quidam-fiesta de quidam?
05:28.13quidam-naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
05:28.22quidam-YO ESTOY DE FIESTA
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05:28.26quidam-no tengo una fiesta
05:28.46dererklol
05:30.16Drex99oyo como va
05:31.10Drex99I think that was Santana.
05:31.25Thanatermesismi riiitmo
05:31.37Thanatermesistime to go to the bed !
05:31.37Drex99Tres hombres - ZZTop
05:31.41Thanatermesisgood night all!
05:31.48LinuxNITgood night thana
05:31.59ThanaZzznight'
05:32.04Drex99Rio grande Mud
05:32.04quidam-ThanaZzz, night
05:33.06dererknight ThanaZzz
05:33.10quidam-http://raspacanilla.com/fotos/vasoton.jpg <- vocalista de "cachicamoconcaspa"
05:33.20quidam-estos tios son unos locos xDDDDDDDDDDDD
05:33.22yawlrightapt bedtime
05:33.23aptit has been said that bedtime is set to be  5:33:23 yawlright so get to bed!
05:34.21yawlrightapt snore
05:34.22aptACTION snores everyones ears off
05:34.43Drex99http://www.drex.ca/brad/fire.html
05:36.31roxvillehehe
05:36.53roxvillei didn't know apt snored...
05:37.13Drex99I have my 12V fridge running off Elive
05:37.21Mutacionbueno raza.. les mando un saludpo cuidense
05:37.23LinuxNIT-Eliveapt wakeup
05:37.38Mutacionsorry but i have to go.. to sleep.. been very but VERY busy at school :s
05:37.43Mutacionbye apt
05:37.49Drex99see ya
05:37.49Mutacionapt bye
05:37.50aptbye bye
05:38.14roxvillesleep tight amigo :)
05:38.25Mutacioni will sleep like a tree :P
05:38.34roxvillelol... it's log
05:38.41Drex99no lsg here
05:38.51Drex99No lag here.
05:39.10roxvillegood Drex99 i'm happy for you
05:39.14roxville:)
05:40.46Drex99some kids huh?
05:40.58roxvillehe wasn't even TRYING to understand thana
05:41.21roxvilleyeah, i guess... someone that expects everything on a silver platter
05:41.44Drex99Rich basterd no doubt.
05:41.55Drex99I had to work hard for my 12 million
05:41.59roxvillesomeone that wasn't there to play the original "Pong" game...
05:42.06roxvillehehe
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05:42.29Drex99I had pong around 1971 or so
05:42.42Drex99om a b/w TV
05:42.57Drex99yeah, I'm 40 now.
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05:43.01roxvillei never had it... some friends did, though
05:43.06Drex9949...oops
05:43.17Drex99see can see aither.
05:43.23roxvilleDrex99, i'm 40 too... born in 1965
05:43.35roxvilleoh...
05:44.20roxville:)
05:44.27LinuxNITvain?
05:44.30LinuxNIThow so?
05:44.59LinuxNITmaybe if i did this
05:45.01roxvillewell you seem to be changing around a bit... to get it "just right"
05:45.08LinuxNITLinuxNIT
05:45.17roxvillehappened eariler today or yesterday too
05:45.20LinuxNITLinuxNIT<<rocks
05:45.30LinuxNITah two pcs :)
05:45.32roxvillei'm just kidding dude... just messing wi'ya
05:45.36roxvilleno harm
05:45.44LinuxNIThad net cables come undone :)
05:45.50LinuxNITi know ya are :)
05:46.13roxvilleyeah, it's a good nick... just the extra - and _ and * and -at-school
05:46.34LinuxNITlol
05:46.42roxvillebut at least we know where ya are at all times :)
05:46.50LinuxNITso you think
05:46.53LinuxNITmwahahahaha
05:47.07LinuxNITits coded
05:47.23LinuxNITsee at-school means at-girlfriends
05:47.26LinuxNIThehehe
05:47.33roxvillemaybe it can go too far...
05:47.34LinuxNITjk
05:47.40roxvillehehe
05:47.47LinuxNITlol
05:48.04Drex99Drex99 @ the Y
05:48.19roxvilleLOL
05:48.31Drex99(   *  Y  *   )
05:49.01roxvilleDrex99, when ya started naming old ZZTOP albums, i knew you must be ove 28
05:49.11LinuxNITlol
05:49.44Drex99hehe
05:50.01Drex99I seen Iron Butterfly LIVE Mon
05:50.18roxvillewow!
05:50.21Drex99and the James Gang with Joe walsh
05:50.36roxvillethat must've been awesome!
05:50.37Drex99Frank Zappa
05:50.44roxvilleor was joe wals drunk?
05:50.47Drex99Ozzy with Sabbath
05:51.00Drex99Joe was superb
05:51.00roxville"the smoker you drink, the player you get"
05:51.09Drex99He was great
05:51.26Drex99I was high on orange barrel acid.
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05:51.52roxvillei can't for my life understand ozzie... it just won't happen for me
05:51.55Drex99I done my share of that shit. Clean now.
05:52.15Drex99Ozzy's wacked . yes.
05:52.26Drex99so are his kids
05:52.47Drex99But I'd bang that lil fat chick anyday
05:52.54roxvillesure, i paid my dues, i've sung paranoid when ppl requested it... but i don't get it... why he's so popular
05:52.57Drex99Mmmm. Kelly.
05:53.03roxvillehehe
05:53.28Drex99I still play. Have a room full of guitars and stuff here.
05:53.40roxvillewtf is ornage barrel acid?
05:53.54roxvillecool!
05:54.01Drex99Its just acid in the shape of a barrel
05:54.15Drex99caid is LSD
05:54.20roxvillei do mostly acoustic these days... coffee houses and such
05:54.23Drex99er acid that is
05:54.29roxvilleoh...
05:54.41Drex99Nice.Do any Billy Joel?
05:54.49Drex99Cat Stephens?
05:54.54roxvillei'm lucky... i was never really interested in drugs
05:55.15roxvilleno billy joel... one cat stevens... "can't keep it in"
05:55.16Drex99Good. I missed the 60's because of drugs
05:55.25roxvilleand..."father abd son"
05:55.28Drex99zipped right past me
05:55.39roxvillei forget which songs i know nowadays :)
05:56.10LinuxNITcan a eap execute a script?
05:56.50roxvillesure!... or... i think so... lol
05:56.57roxvillebut how... i don't know
05:57.01LinuxNITlol
05:57.04LinuxNITk
05:57.08roxvilleDrex99, this is me now...
05:57.39Drex99I make my own stuff up, Sometimes it's blues, Sometimes it's like Joe satrianni , depends on my Mood I guess
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05:59.07roxvillehttp://roxville.no-ip.org/public_html/Chris_Recordings/Standing_On_Your_Doorstep.mp3
05:59.36roxvilleand this is from mid 90's with my old band in sweden:
05:59.58Drex99browser wont open
05:59.58roxvillehttp://roxville.no-ip.org/public_html/Greasy_Saddles/Greasy%20Saddles-Diesel%20&%20dus.mp3
06:00.17roxvilleso wget em
06:00.37roxvillemy daughter woke up, i gotta go tend to her
06:00.42Drex99ok.
06:00.46Drex99see ya soon
06:01.00roxvillehard to come down fast... i had a pretty nice gig tonight
06:01.19Drex99thats good
06:02.34LinuxNITwhate the command to open the eapeditor form cli
06:02.35GPLGeekI missed the 60s because I was born in teh 80s =)
06:02.50LinuxNITlol GPLGeek me too :)
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06:03.25roxvillehehe GPLGeek  and LinuxNIT
06:03.39GPLGeekI'm 21 haha
06:03.47LinuxNITme too lol
06:03.48roxvillee_util_eapp_edit
06:04.09roxvillee_util_eapp_edit LinuxNIT
06:04.12LinuxNITthanks
06:04.18GPLGeekI dont think I would have done too well in the 60s. I dont really like drugs.
06:04.21roxvillenp
06:04.38roxvilleme neither
06:04.40Drex99Yeah drugs bad
06:04.58Elive_userhim i4; looking for the elive-0.4-sata package and don4t find it in apt-get
06:05.11GPLGeekThis world is so great why would you want to change your reality?
06:05.15roxvilleand whenever i tell someone i'm a musician, they automatically assume that i at least smoke pot
06:05.30Elive_useris it available to doznload allready
06:05.32GPLGeekYou do, dont lie
06:05.36LinuxNITcool got the sript to work :)
06:05.38GPLGeekAll musicians smoke pot
06:05.52roxvillelol, except me
06:05.52GPLGeeki was kidding
06:06.01GPLGeekPot isnt good for the lungs.
06:06.07roxvilleElive_user, it should be there
06:06.13GPLGeekHow can you sing if your mouth is dry?
06:06.19roxvilleGPLGeek,  didn't you d/l that sata pack?
06:06.27Drex99I havnt done drugs fer over 25 years
06:06.38GPLGeekI think so
06:07.13roxvilleGPLGeek, how can Elive_user get it then?
06:07.32GPLGeekI'm not sure because I changed my repositories
06:07.44roxvilleapt-cache policy sata ?
06:07.51GPLGeekbnut maybe its just sudo apt-get install elive-sata
06:07.59GPLGeekor apt-cashe would be good
06:08.18GPLGeekLOL i had just shut down my elive computer too
06:08.32roxvillelol
06:08.41Elive_useryepm I did an apt-get update but still nothing
06:08.52roxvilleok, i gotta get in bed... my daughter keeps calling me
06:09.00Elive_userno elive-sata package in the official repo
06:09.04roxvillesee y'all tomorrow :)
06:09.07LinuxNITnight roxville
06:09.25GPLGeekelive_user sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
06:09.34LinuxNITdosent elive have sata modules by defaule?
06:09.39Elive_userit is not very i;portant but i zish to install that amazing distro for ;y friend
06:09.45GPLGeekswitch the mirror for elive, uncomment that other repo
06:09.50GPLGeekthen apt-get update
06:10.13Elive_usergplgeek. ok i try
06:10.14GPLGeekelive_user it is important to me to help everyone
06:10.46Elive_useranywzay that distro is QWSOMEm everything rocks
06:10.47GPLGeekespecially since this problem is not really that hard for those of us who have been using debian for a long time.
06:13.16Drex99I been running for 3 days off the live cd and my browser wont open, nothing does anymore.
06:13.42Drex99Im stuck in this chat window( IRC window)
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06:14.14Elive_userok thanx I didn4t check taht there are other elive repom upgradind now
06:14.16Drex99I could reboot, But I leave that for when I'm running windows ME.
06:14.54Drex99I run my frige off the Linux box
06:15.02Drex99oops. fridge.
06:15.32Elive_userI especially love the elpanel, it is amazing what the efl can do !!
06:15.50Drex99That's right kids. My fridge runs off my Linux Box. Go ahead and Laugh.
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06:17.47Drex99Nothing opens for me after 3 days.
06:17.59Drex99Well, my fridge does.
06:18.40Drex99Ok. Terminal opens, That's it.
06:18.59Drex99and I had this window open 3 days ago.
06:19.35Drex99I'm not annoyed, I'm just saying.
06:19.49LinuxNITe17?
06:19.50Drex99I know I can reebot.
06:19.57Drex99yeah 17
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06:20.07LinuxNITi think i heard it has a mem leak
06:20.14LinuxNITbut dont quote me
06:20.24Drex99ahh I have a gig of kingstone
06:20.32Drex99drop the e
06:20.38LinuxNITwell 3 days
06:20.38Drex99Kingston
06:20.49Drex993 days yes
06:20.59LinuxNITi reboot often and have been running for more than that
06:21.06Drex99does it take 3 days to leek?
06:21.08LinuxNITi reboot cause im on a laptop :)
06:21.12LinuxNITno idea
06:21.30LinuxNITthe leak is just something i think i heard :)
06:21.31Drex99right. well. Does Thana know this?
06:21.49LinuxNITi THINK  i heard it from him
06:21.54Elive_userand if you reboot did things works back as they need to?
06:21.55Drex99Oh ok.
06:21.56LinuxNITbut its been a while
06:22.07Drex99right. well Its still true
06:22.11Elive_usermaybe you have a crazy process running in background
06:22.32LinuxNITtake his advice see if reboot fixes :)
06:22.59Drex99Nope. Xmms and 1 teerminal window in root
06:23.15LinuxNITdid you reboot?
06:23.27Drex99yeah I will reboot. Not right now though
06:24.00Elive_useryeah but maybe your browser hasn't quit correctly and is still running in background
06:24.21Drex99do you think it will reboot itself If I leave it long enough?
06:24.22Elive_useri don't remember the command to list all running process (noob inside ;-) )
06:24.36LinuxNITtop
06:24.46Drex99Lol. Noob inside, good one
06:24.57LinuxNITtop will list processes
06:25.05Elive_useryeah here it is, try top to see if firefox is still running
06:25.07Drex99ok. hang
06:25.27Elive_userand ifff it does kill -9 the pid number of firefox
06:26.46Drex99kthread is 9
06:28.02Drex99Mozilla is not listed.
06:28.33LinuxNITdoes it show anything takeing up recources?
06:29.23Drex99Nope, Nothig drmattic at all.
06:29.26yawlrightmiddle click on desktop to see all running windows
06:29.51Elive_userit must be winME that have stuck your liveCD (joking)
06:30.56Drex99Must be.
06:31.31Drex99Ok. gunna hit rest here. back soon
06:31.40LinuxNITrestart x
06:31.55Drex99running offf cd
06:31.59LinuxNITthat should take care of any stray programs
06:32.00LinuxNIToh
06:32.01LinuxNITlol
06:32.06Drex99lol
06:32.14LinuxNITwell no wonder its slow
06:32.17LinuxNIThhehehehe
06:32.31LinuxNITwhy not install?
06:32.37Drex99yeah Reset wont hurt the CD
06:32.56Drex99Install? Hmmm.
06:33.09LinuxNIT:)
06:33.18Drex99Ill wait for next version maybe
06:33.34LinuxNITlol
06:33.41Drex99Might overwrite my Win ME partition.
06:33.46Elive_useryeah, install worked great for me, i throw away my ubbuntu for elive
06:33.47Drex99LOL. kiding
06:34.02LinuxNITew ubuntu ew
06:34.04LinuxNIT:)
06:34.14Drex99I used to use Knoppix
06:34.25LinuxNITi dunno somehting about ubuntu irritates me
06:34.25Elive_userwinME is more known as the 2000 year bug ;-)
06:34.32LinuxNITbut i cant seem to figure out what
06:34.33LinuxNITlol
06:34.49Drex99haha, yes I know. I won't have it in the house
06:35.03Elive_userwhat i love in elive is that it has all the non free multimedia packages
06:35.25LinuxNIT:)
06:35.34Drex99firefox is free.
06:35.39Drex99XMMS is free
06:35.53Elive_useri was thinking about libdvdcss and win32codecs ;-)
06:36.01Elive_usernvidia etc
06:36.08Drex99oh yeah , ok
06:36.15Elive_userplug and play like
06:36.29LinuxNITauto mount is sooo nice :)
06:36.35Drex99I never tried my usb thumbdrives yet
06:36.45LinuxNITworks
06:36.57Drex99Ok. Im resetting.
06:37.01Drex9910
06:37.03Drex999
06:37.03Drex998
06:37.04Drex997
06:37.05Drex996
06:37.05LinuxNITbut maybe not on live version
06:37.05Drex995
06:37.06Elive_useryes too. by the way i see a module of e17 for mounting but it doesn't look to work
06:37.06Drex994
06:37.08Drex993
06:37.11Drex992
06:37.13Drex991
06:37.15Drex99bah bye
06:37.15Elive_userby drex
06:37.18LinuxNITbye
06:37.23GPLGeeklater
06:37.41LinuxNITlooks like hes stuck on 1
06:37.48LinuxNIThe needs a 0
06:38.28LinuxNITbrb
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06:42.25Drex90210Hi kids
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06:42.44Drex90210Did ja miss me?
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06:50.32yawlrightapt ubuntu
06:50.37aptfrom memory, ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png  Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~
06:57.48b1ufoxapt: fedora
06:57.49aptsomebody said fedora was RedHat's alpha/beta distro made for testing out stuff to be put into RedHat later.
06:58.16Wi1dChildapt, gentoo
06:58.18aptfrom memory, gentoo is different than debian http://www.gentoo.org/, or
06:58.39b1ufoxapt: opensuse
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06:59.27Wi1dChildapt mandriva
06:59.29aptmethinks mandriva is mandrake + conectiva.  See mandrake.
06:59.38Wi1dChildapt, mandrake
06:59.40apti guess mandrake is the best linux distro or the worst linux distro, or a plant that screams when you rip it out of the ground and kills you for removing it, or that guy who used to work for VA that is also doing that voice synth stuff
07:00.11Wi1dChildlol
07:00.18Wi1dChildapt,  kubuntu
07:00.31Wi1dChildapt, slackware
07:00.32aptThe Slackware distribution. URL: http://www.slackware.com/
07:00.40Wi1dChildapt, elive
07:00.41aptmethinks elive is a livecd (installable) project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :)
07:00.56Wi1dChildapt, debian
07:01.11Wi1dChildapt apt
07:01.13apti heard apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. an infobot, the same instance of a blootbot as ibot, jbot, and purl
07:01.13Wi1dChild:D
07:01.39yawlrightapt human
07:01.42aptfrom memory, human is the mind of an angel in the body of an animal
07:02.01Wi1dChildapt ubuntu
07:02.02apt[ubuntu] has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png  Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~
07:02.07Wi1dChildmouarf
07:02.19yawlrightapt poem
07:02.32Wi1dChildapt developer
07:02.34aptfrom memory, developer is a closed circle, whose members contain the elite of the elite, the best of the best, so damn good they make the rest of us look like morons. It is very hard to become a developer at the moment.
07:02.52Wi1dChildapt gaim
07:02.54apthmm... gaim is n IM client for the Ipaq, currently in Familiar. main site at http://gaim.sf.net/
07:03.11yawlrightapt noob
07:03.13aptnoob is, like, just what someone is before their a pro
07:03.19Wi1dChildlol
07:03.26Wi1dChildapt japanese
07:03.27aptjapanese is probably a foreign programming language
07:03.38Wi1dChildapt canadian
07:03.40aptI AM CANADIAN!
07:03.41yawlrightheh
07:03.44Wi1dChildlol
07:03.49Wi1dChildapt quebec
07:03.50apti heard quebec is the land of the most beautifull chicks in the world
07:03.55Wi1dChildindeed
07:03.56Wi1dChildlool
07:04.17yawlrightapt love
07:04.19aptIf you love <insert item> so much, why don't you marry it
07:04.39Wi1dChildapt love
07:04.40aptIf you love <insert item> so much, why don't you marry it
07:04.44Wi1dChild^^
07:04.46yawlrightapt love me
07:04.49aptIf you love yawlright so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
07:04.49Wi1dChildapt girl
07:04.51apt"if you dont believe in the existance of evil, you have a lot to learn"
07:04.59Wi1dChildapt man
07:05.00aptman is, like, Displays the manual page for that given command or resource (that is, any system utility that isn't a command, such as a library function. Syntax: man (command). Where command is the name of the command or resource to get help on. Example: man ls gives help on the ls command.
07:05.15Wi1dChildapt cool
07:05.16aptthere, there, everything is going to fix out $1
07:05.30Wi1dChildapt thanatermesis
07:05.33apti heard thanatermesis is the founder and leader of Elive. http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org
07:05.39Wi1dChild:o
07:05.42Wi1dChildapt WildChild
07:05.51Wi1dChild:(
07:06.02Wi1dChildapt eleven
07:06.03aptwell, eleven is not a number
07:06.13Wi1dChildapt programmer
07:06.14aptfrom memory, programmer is root of all evil in Linux
07:06.21Wi1dChildapt spank
07:06.22aptACTION gets out the Spanking Paddle
07:06.23yawlrightapt windows
07:06.24aptsomebody said windows was a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs
07:06.49Wi1dChildlol
07:06.51Wi1dChildapt unix
07:06.53apthmm... unix is A lot like DOS, but a MUCH more powerful operating system. It was developed at Bell Labs and is now being developed by many other corporations. It is mainly used as a multi-user server for mainframes, although companies like Novell offer it for the desktop market as well. not at all like dos beyond the superficial similarities in the command line ...
07:07.14Wi1dChildapt dos
07:07.15aptmethinks dos is (Disk Operating System) This OS is what got it all started for PCs.  Denial of Service...
07:07.35Wi1dChildapt fuck
07:07.36aptfrom memory, fuck is You should probably try a replacement word like fetch
07:07.46Wi1dChildapt fetch
07:07.47apti heard fetch is Hey, just say what you really mean!
07:08.00Wi1dChildapt hey
07:08.00aptniihau
07:08.07Wi1dChildapt niihau
07:08.08aptniihau is, like, hello, in some language or another or the name of a Hawaiian island.
07:08.20Wi1dChildapt france
07:08.21aptfrom memory, france is the father of the skiff cluster, or a country in Europe, or spending huge amounts of time on handhelds.org. see also: ~praise france
07:08.34yawlrightapt hawaii
07:08.42Wi1dChildapt japan
07:08.44aptwell, japan is a country in east asia
07:08.51Wi1dChildapt asia
07:08.58Wi1dChildapt russia
07:08.59aptextra, extra, read all about it, russia is red, or cold
07:09.08Wi1dChildapt vodka
07:09.10aptsomebody said vodka was Chilled Absolute Black Kurrant
07:09.15yawlrightapt burp
07:09.17aptACTION burps loudly
07:09.22Wi1dChildapt sake
07:09.31Wi1dChildapt tequila
07:09.32apttequila bring pain!
07:09.37Wi1dChildlol
07:09.40yawlrightheheh
07:09.45Wi1dChildapt evil
07:09.46apt[evil] something Microsoft bought from Satan, according to http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html
07:09.54Wi1dChildLOL
07:10.00yawlrightapt margarita
07:10.03Wi1dChildapt bill gates
07:10.05aptextra, extra, read all about it, bill gates is lord of Darkness
07:10.07yawlrightapt beer
07:10.09aptextra, extra, read all about it, beer is not just for breakfast anymore
07:10.16Wi1dChildapt microsoft
07:10.17apt"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners."
07:10.31Wi1dChildapt sucker
07:10.33yawlrightheh
07:10.37Wi1dChildapt suck
07:10.39apt:(
07:10.42Wi1dChildLOL
07:10.44Wi1dChildniiice :D
07:10.54yawlrightapt good bot
07:10.54aptaw, gee, yawlright
07:11.03Wi1dChildapt stinks
07:11.24yawlrightapt bot
07:11.26aptI ain't no stinkin' bot.  I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool.  Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
07:11.49yawlrightapt bake me a cake
07:11.50aptI think you mean ~cook yawlright, spr.
07:12.09Wi1dChildfuck apt
07:12.37yawlrightapt bad bot no cookie for you
07:12.38aptBad bot no cookie for you, bad! No cookie for you!
07:13.52yawlrightapt sleep
07:13.53aptsomebody said sleep was overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.
07:14.20yawlrightbight all bedtime
07:14.30yawlrightapt goodnight
07:14.32aptHave a goodnight!
07:30.21b1ufoxapt vista
07:30.36b1ufoxapt: vista
07:30.37GPLGeekok im back
07:30.42b1ufoxapt: google
07:30.44aptrumour has it, google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/
07:30.52b1ufoxapt: vista
07:31.59GPLGeekabout apt microsoft....
07:31.59GPLGeeka vacume was on their showcase
07:31.59GPLGeekdoes that mean they make good products?
07:31.59GPLGeeklol
07:32.35GPLGeekThey actually have a vacume they will try to market to make the automated home. it vacumes by itself and can even move objects to avoid sucking things up that are too big or the ability to vacume after shaking out rugs
07:34.37dererkI hate when ppl are hard with apt
07:34.42dererkapt, ;)
07:34.45apt(:
07:35.04dererkapt, good bot
07:35.05aptdererk: aw, gee
07:35.48dererkapt sex GPLGeek
07:36.38dererkouch, that be hard... neither a bot want to have sex with you GPLGeek :(
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07:37.37dererkjk GPLGeek
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07:45.25GPLGeekim going to bed
07:45.41pycsGPLGeek, good night
07:45.55GPLGeeksee you guys later, catching a few hours of ZZZs and then working a 9 hour shift
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08:11.07Schamanehi
08:24.03dererkWelcome
08:32.49Schamanethx dererk
08:33.07dererkYW
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08:51.01rautelahye all :)
08:53.31dererkWelcome
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08:58.10dhiruhye kaley rautela
08:59.34rautelamadar dhiru teri to .. X(
08:59.47rautelathis text mode client is really cool yaar :)
09:00.03dhiru;) lets move to squash after 10 min
09:00.10rautelasure dhiru
09:00.35rautelaand yes thanks to wine dhiru
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09:00.56rautelafinally only linux comes to rescue not ediot windows ..hahahha
09:00.57dhiruof course !
09:01.07dhiruhail GNU/Linux !!
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09:01.25rautelayo but you still stuck to WinXP
09:01.30rautelawhy?
09:01.33Schamane_re
09:02.00rautelalooks like you have taken up windows deliberately dhiru
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11:36.22dhiruhye blufox
11:36.25dhirunice game
11:36.32dhiruwhy did u leave ?
11:44.06b1ufoxi cant play
11:44.08b1ufoxveyr bad mc
11:47.25dhirumadar
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13:58.23inigohello o/
13:58.52Schamane_hi inigo
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14:10.18dererkwopes inigo
14:10.35inigowopes :)
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14:29.57hakin9:)
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14:30.41roxvillehiya hakin, how are you?
14:30.44hakin9ayak what happen>
14:30.58roxvilledon't know...
14:31.04hakin9hye alll
14:31.06roxvillebut you slipped :)
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14:32.03roxvillehakin9, you got connection probs
14:32.11hakin9b4 i slipped again, can sum1 tell me is there any direct link to 0.4?
14:32.15roxvilleor, your computer does...
14:32.30roxvillenot just yet... but almost
14:32.35roxvilleibiblio
14:32.42roxvilleis going to hos elive
14:32.43hakin9im behind this stoopid firewall
14:32.51roxvilleahhh
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14:35.16Elive_user52bonjour
14:35.29Elive_user52linux!!!!!!!
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14:36.37hakin9thank 4 the info
14:37.16Thanatermesishakin9  http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/EliveRelease
14:37.48roxvilleno problem hakin9
14:38.24hakin9thana check ur email
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14:43.20Thanatermesiskuyie atari :)
14:43.21hakin9:)
14:43.26hakin9yeah taht me
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14:44.23hakin9d-lined? what is this?
14:44.55hakin9any way thank 5% d/load and counting
14:46.19dererkapt, ignore inigo
14:46.21aptACTION sticks her fingers in her ears.  "La, la, la!  I can't hear you, inigo!"
14:46.34inigoo_O
14:47.24dererkapt, who is Tim Riker ?
14:47.27aptdererk: I think you lost me on that one
14:47.36dererkapt, Tim Riker?
14:47.46dererkapt, TimRiker?
14:47.47apti guess timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy.
14:51.16dererkapt,  have sex with inigo
14:51.17aptACTION sets +promiscuous mode with inigo
14:51.20dererklol
14:53.12inigoone moment ¿apt is girl or boy?
14:53.19inigo:P
14:53.39roxvillewe're not sure...
14:53.46inigobots are axesual ?
14:53.59roxvilleapt, kiss inigo
14:54.01aptACTION smooches inigo on the lips
14:54.05inigoxD
14:55.07dererkThen apt is a boy
14:55.10dererklol
14:55.27inigo¿howto is made a bot? ¿perl?
14:55.40dererkinigo, puedes descargarl las fuentes
14:55.47dererkinigo, apt es un blootbot
14:55.49dererkinigo, blootbot
14:55.52inigowhere ?
14:55.53dererkperdon
14:55.59dererkapt, blootbot
14:56.01apthmm... blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,.  I am a blootbot
14:56.30inigolol  thanks dererk  ... you aren't so bad as you look  xDDD
14:56.42dererkIndeed, I am
14:56.49inigojejeje
14:57.05dererkjust as rookmoot
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15:09.04goldsteinhola
15:09.41goldsteinanybody home=?
15:09.59goldsteinhola apt
15:10.59goldsteinhum... apt is still mad at me because of the ohter night...
15:11.12goldsteinapt, it was a one night stand, dont take it so hard..
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15:19.31roxvillehehe
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15:43.22saad3000I wonder where wine-cfg located
15:43.22saad3000?
15:43.39b1ufoxsaad3000, in ur home directory i guess :)
15:43.46b1ufoxtry find it there
15:43.47saad3000its not there.
15:43.55saad3000it gives me an error wine-cfg not found
15:43.58b1ufoxdid you try ls -la
15:44.02saad3000yep
15:44.04saad3000I have .wine
15:44.07b1ufoxyes
15:44.10saad3000but the wine-cfg I dont have it.
15:44.22b1ufoxhmmm intresting
15:44.37b1ufoxwell do updatedb
15:44.55b1ufoxand then use locate wine-cfg
15:45.19saad3000blufox there error sez: wine-cfg command not found
15:45.25saad3000blufox I dont have it.
15:45.26b1ufoxeasiest but a little lenghty way to find it if it is really somehwhere ,u cannnot find :)
15:45.48b1ufoxare you logged in as root ?
15:45.51saad3000yes
15:45.55saad3000i typed: whereis wine-cfg
15:45.57saad3000nothing
15:46.14b1ufoxthis means wine-cfg is not installed i guess
15:46.50b1ufoxjust type wine and press tabs to see what all wine related utilities are there
15:47.14b1ufoxthis way you will find out which ones are installed and which one are not
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16:01.18Elive_useranyone out there?
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16:03.09Elive_userneed someone that knows about 0.3 and 0.4
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16:52.34lordbambihey all..i got a bit of a stupid problem. mixed my elive 0.3 and 0.4 cd and now i don't know wich one is wich.
16:52.41lordbambiis there a way to check it?
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16:58.10saad3000lol
16:58.26Thanatermesislordbambi cat /etc/elive-version  ;)
16:58.47lordbambihehe :-)
16:59.34lordbambiwow it's an 0.2 version........
16:59.48Thanatermesislordbambi then is the 0.3
17:00.02lordbambiaah ok... :-)
17:00.18lordbambiis it possible to install o.3 and 0.4 on the same comp?
17:02.23lordbambii got some version questions. 0.3 supported my hardware. 0.4 has problems.
17:02.36lordbambiis it a different kernel? does 0.3 use udev?
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17:04.43Thanatermesisyes lordbambi, 0.3 has udev
17:04.50Thanatermesiseuh.. 0.4 sorry
17:04.55Thanatermesisand a diferent kernel
17:04.58Thanatermesiswhat problems exactly ?
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17:05.10egrubThanatermesis, cuando arranca mi elive y aparece alsa...detect
17:05.12lordbambiisa-pnp sound card
17:05.13egrubSe par?
17:05.18egrubNo se mueve nada
17:05.36Thanatermesisegrub mete en el boot el parametro "noalsa"
17:05.46egrubOk
17:05.54Thanatermesislordbambi what Mhz has your cpu ?
17:06.02lordbambi400 mhz
17:06.07Thanatermesisand ram ¿?
17:06.09lordbambi192
17:06.18Thanatermesisnot bad :)
17:06.34lordbambian old armada laptop i bought for 100 euro :-)
17:06.48Thanatermesisi don't know about the isa card... on the boot of 0.4 you have for choice the liveCD kernel (same to 0.3), do you have tried it ?
17:07.15lordbambino i haven't, i'll try it in a min
17:07.27Thanatermesistry it and reconfigure the sound if needed
17:07.30RubenHauganrun alsaconf and choose Legacy ISA if it doesn
17:07.36RubenHaugant detect the card
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17:07.53lordbambirubenghaugen, i tried that...
17:08.45lordbambihold on, need to switch cd's and reboot both my computers :-(
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17:22.02saad3000guys
17:22.06saad3000how do I kill a Zombie
17:22.09saad3000saad3000 15569  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    19:09   0:00 [play] <defunct>
17:22.27Elive_usershoot it in the head...
17:22.58Thanatermesissaad3000 killall -9 play
17:23.01saad3000Elive_user: lol
17:23.05Thanatermesislol
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17:23.16Elive_useras root kill -9 doesn't work?
17:23.49saad3000killall doesnt work
17:23.51saad3000kill doesn't work
17:24.03saad3000lol its really a zombie.
17:24.04saad3000it has no parent.
17:24.13saad3000we need Alice from Resident evil.
17:24.20Elive_userso it's an orphan zombie!
17:24.45saad3000Elive_user: yep orphan one of a kind.
17:24.49Elive_userhow do I get the login screen not to display e16?
17:25.14Elive_userBTW elive 0.4 is way cool!
17:25.30Elive_usersort of restores some faith in Linux...
17:25.57saad3000;>
17:26.46lordbambinight of the living elive :-)
17:27.07Elive_userhow about a Zombie theme? :-)
17:28.21ThanatermesisElive_user you don't want e16 ? lol
17:29.03Elive_userI don't mean to offend osX, but no :-)
17:29.49Thanatermesishehe, then make a look to /usr/share/entrance dir and play with the config files ;)
17:29.58Elive_userActually anyone ever thought, enlightment could be Amiga (TM) reincarnated?
17:30.05Elive_userAh cool thanks!
17:30.29lordbambithana, what is the option for the old kernel on the 0.4 boot screen?
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17:31.18lordbambi(livecd)
17:35.08Elive_userno what is elive essence? ...sounds good!
17:35.52Thanatermesislordbambi no, liveCD is the same kernel to 0.3
17:35.55Thanatermesisi speak about the installed system
17:35.59ThanatermesisElive_user di.fm
17:36.09lordbambii'll try to configure sound on the livecd..... booted in expert mode
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17:37.28lordbambiwell apm works in expert mode..... on 0.3. not in 0.4
17:37.29Elive_userJust when I was about to give up on linux, I came across 0.4 and it just keeps getting better and better...
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17:43.33Elive_userso long. Whoever is involved, keep up the good work!
17:43.44Thanatermesis:)
17:44.54Thanatermesislordbambi i don't know... in any case your problem is a simple kernel modules problem and/or audio configuration, if you don't know how to install a own kernel or the 0.4 system installed... or maybe use the next candidate ( a 2.6.15 ) for Elive's kernel
17:45.39lordbambiso the only difference in hardware between the livecd and hard disk install is the kernel and the boot options?
17:47.22Thanatermesisthe installed system is a lot better than the liveCD mode
17:50.34lordbambinot in my case :-)
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17:51.09lordbambiwell i'll figure it out. if i can get woody running on it, elive shouldn't be a prob
17:51.14Thanatermesislordbambi but you are trying in the liveCD mode or the installed mode ?
17:51.36*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help || Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels || If you like to help SEEDING the torrent http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/EliveRelease
17:51.56Thanatermesisuse the kernel of woody ;) or try the next candidate for kernel in elive, the 2.6.15
17:52.00lordbambilivecd works perfect. installed mode gives problems with sound and apm
17:52.30Thanatermesisor just modprobe your audio modules, this is all of you really need, better if is autodetected but..
17:52.51Thanatermesisapm... apm not is used by default... do you need it lordbambi ?
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17:53.10lordbambiyes, my laptop has a buggy acpi bios
17:53.28lordbambiok my boot parameters fixed the apm prob... now the sound
17:53.28kjellvizhey...
17:53.32Thanatermesisyes, i have the same problem with apm... i like to make a little extra feature on elpanel for this ;)
17:53.35kjellvizjust popped in to say thank you !
17:53.40kjellviz=)
17:53.47Thanatermesislordbambi and you can't posible to halt the computer without apm, correct ?
17:53.56Thanatermesiswelcome kjellviz :)
17:53.57lordbambiprob is the fan control
17:54.05kjellvizthis is the first distro ive succesfully set up my wlan on, so i am truly happy now =D
17:54.12kjellviztnx Thanatermesis
17:54.19Thanatermesislordbambi and just loading apm your problem is solved or you really need to disable acpi ?
17:54.29kjellvizand the fact it looks so good is just a bonus ^^
17:54.42lordbambinormally apm will control the fan depending on the cpu temp. with acpi the fan isn't started and the cpu overheats
17:55.09Thanatermesisthis is good kjellviz :) normally Elive don't has a "BIG" support for the wifi thing... but we want a better support.. we need a person to work "just" for wifi related things support for Elive
17:55.21inigokjellviz, wlan is only the begin ... elive have a lot of cool stuf :D
17:55.35Thanatermesishehehe, thanks inigo :)
17:55.37kjellvizyah it looks stunning !
17:55.43inigo:)
17:55.53kjellvizneed 2 tweak it to my liking
17:56.11Thanatermesislordbambi yes.. but my question is, if you load apm, your problem is solved ? or you needs also to disable acpi ?
17:56.12kjellvizfirst off, how to allow faster login ?
17:56.29Thanatermesiskjellviz faster login ?
17:56.34kjellvizminimum, choose a name from the list and type passw
17:56.44kjellvizor rather straight on to a default user
17:56.45lordbambii have to disable acpi
17:57.03inigoThanatermesis, no conocía abandonia ... estoy viendo los links de elive... muy buenos :D
17:57.08Thanatermesiskjellviz i don't think to its very posible... this is a entrance feature, ask better about this entrance feature on #e
17:57.21kjellvizoki
17:57.23kjellviz=)
17:57.36lordbambifolowing boot parameters solved my sound AND acpi problem: noapic acpi=off
17:57.43Thanatermesisabandonia inigo ? a ver pasa link
17:57.48kjellvizno big deal really, just that my lappy is usually out of reach, so i need 2 strecth 2 type ^^
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17:57.50lordbambieverything fixed :-)
17:57.59inigowww.abandonia.com
17:58.18kjellvizill stop spamming channel now and leave you guys that have more serious matters to discuss
17:58.20kjellviz=)
17:58.34Thanatermesislol
17:58.48kjellviz=P
17:59.08Thanatermesisinigo dime que te parece este shot, estoy mirando de poner uno bonito en mi nueva pagina web ;)  http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar12.jpg
17:59.09lordbambithana do you need some explanation on the forum or wiki?
17:59.52Thanatermesisaah, hablas de los bookmarks de Elive ? jeje, si, puse unas cuantas cosas que tenia en mis bookmarks, me llevo una semana organizarlo todo xD
18:00.01Thanatermesislordbambi about ?
18:00.12lordbambielive hard disk install on an armada 1750
18:01.09egrubThanatermesis, noalsa y nosound ya hice pero se qued? parado
18:01.17Thanatermesismmmh, this is a "very" specific thing.. maybe better (or add also the name of your machine), just a thing to explains about the ISA audio cards and apm needed... yeah, write things on the wiki :)
18:01.26inigoThanatermesis, the shot is cool ... but it need another non-terminal app ¿don't? jejeje  :D
18:01.26Thanatermesisegrub prueba "failsafe" entonces
18:01.37egrubThanatermesis, si ya hice tambi?n
18:01.38egrub:S
18:01.43Thanatermesisque inigo ? xD
18:01.55Thanatermesisegrub mmh, prueba "expert"
18:01.59egrubOk
18:02.01lordbambiyea but the armada WAS a popular laptop....
18:02.08inigoque metas alguan aplicacion que no sean termianles :D
18:02.19inigojoder, que dixlesia
18:02.24egrubThanatermesis, es muy raro...  Antes el elive 0.4-beta0 anda muy bien mi maquina
18:02.28egrubY ahora esto...
18:02.29egrub:S
18:02.33Thanatermesises que solo necesito terminales inigo xD
18:02.45inigoentonces esta perfecto xd
18:03.32inigomete algún juego tio
18:03.36Thanatermesisegrub no lo se... es raro, varias personas dicen que habia cosas de la version "beta" o "pre" que funcionaban y ahora no... pero no le encuentro la logica
18:03.50Thanatermesisinigo que va, esto es un destkop serio xD
18:03.51egrubSi...
18:04.03egrubGast? un cd virgen
18:04.05egrub:(
18:04.37Thanatermesisjajaja egrub, no digas eso hombre, seguro que algo se puede hacer... es en tu maquina que no va ? que targeta de audio tienes ?
18:04.49Thanatermesisinigo como esto, el centro de control de Elive xD  http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/e16-newlook.jpg.html
18:05.01Thanatermesisegrub vendelo, tienes permiso para hacerlo ;) xD
18:05.10egrubxD
18:06.28egrubThanatermesis, que malo eres
18:06.29egrubxD
18:06.35inigoThanatermesis, vi el video del centro de control ... pero creo que en ese shot no sale
18:07.25inigohttp://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elpanel-1.jpg.html   ??
18:07.34Thanatermesisinigo el video... mmh, "video-3.avi" ?
18:07.58inigo:D esos videos que se curra el Thanatermesis que se nos cae la baba a todos  :DD
18:08.09kjellvizany1 know if e16 has that same nifty feature as in mac osx, where u press a button an it displays all open windows making it easy to find the 1 window u are looking for ?
18:08.13Thanatermesisinigo y los que falta por hacer ;)
18:08.17kjellvizhard to explain really ^^
18:08.28inigoexpose
18:08.34inigoin mac it is expose
18:08.38kjellvizye
18:08.46kjellvizits nifty =)
18:08.46inigoin debian + gtk ... ¿skippy¿
18:08.55inigolook at skippy
18:08.59kjellvizskippy ?
18:09.21inigoskippy - full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose
18:09.35Thanatermesisinigo i think to skippy don't works good on very WM, one of this are E
18:09.46Thanatermesisbut try it :)
18:09.48inigoyes, and in gnome it fails
18:09.49Thanatermesiskjellviz apt-get install skippy
18:10.26kjellvizok.. so noone knows if it works on elive with e16 ?
18:10.50Thanatermesisi have tested it just a little, i can't  posible to say "no works"
18:11.06inigoit works, but in my system it "mount" one window over others ...
18:11.25inigothe preview was corrupted
18:11.30inigo1 month ago
18:11.36inigoin debian sid
18:12.26kjellvizoki
18:12.46kjellvizjust so u know
18:12.57kjellvizim a linux n00b ^
18:12.59kjellviz^^
18:13.04kjellvizi installed skippy now
18:13.18Thanatermesis<inigo> it works, but in my system it "mount" one window over others ...
18:13.19Thanatermesis<inigo> the preview was corrupted
18:13.36Thanatermesisi think to the main problem of all this is because we use xfree/xorg graphical system :)
18:13.42kjellvizbut u know, as a former window$ user i expect it to pop up on the startmenu ^^
18:14.48inigokjellviz, first you have to execute it ... in console: skippy &  (the & is to launch it and return to prompt)
18:15.39kjellvizk tnx, but i got a errormsg saying some other program uses the keycombo skippy tried to set
18:15.57inigoi remember that the key was F11 or F12
18:15.58kjellvizkeysym to be exact
18:16.53inigols -a .skippy  in the /home/elive directory
18:17.00kjellvizbut f11 works nevertheless =S
18:17.10inigoyou have to edit the keycombo
18:17.34inigothe conf file can be in your home or in /etc/skippy
18:17.45inigoi don't remember very well
18:17.48kjellvizk prob in /etc
18:17.52kjellvizinstalled as su
18:18.50inigoit sould be in /home/elive/.skippyrc  the line  keysym = F11
18:19.08kjellvizok ill check, but it does work now
18:19.30inigoThanatermesis, ¿is any FX key free in elive defaults?
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18:20.19Thanatermesisinigo ah yes, i remember.. F11 don't works... i don't know... i don't think to its used by E
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18:20.37egrubThanatermesis, acabo de probar elive 0.3
18:20.39egrubEl mismo problema
18:20.45egrubThanatermesis, era por el monitor nuevo
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18:21.10kjellvizwell f11 seems to work fine here
18:21.24lefty_cruppsgood morning
18:21.33kjellvizexcept from this x-chat
18:21.38lefty_cruppsis anyone here familiar with udev?
18:21.46egrubThanatermesis, lo prob? el guadalinex y ubuntu live
18:21.50kjellvizit comes out ontop of everything
18:21.50egrubAnda perfecto
18:22.57kjellvizaite leave that... over to something more important
18:23.20egrubThanatermesis, mi monitor es LG Flatron ez de 17 pulgadas
18:23.26kjellvizto get wlan up and running i need to run modprobe wlan0 after bootup
18:23.30inigokjellviz, sorry for my english, i dont understand ¿it works?
18:23.41kjellvizany way to make it happen automatically ?
18:23.52kjellvizyes it seems to work using F11
18:23.56inigo:)
18:24.06kjellvizsometimes some window is stuck over the others
18:24.12kjellvizbut usually not
18:24.32inigowell   automatically ¿when?
18:24.51kjellvizwhen it starts up x or when i log on my user
18:25.16inigoat the final of .xinitrc ?
18:25.26inigoexec skippy &  ?
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18:25.37kjellvizahhh no not skippy
18:25.45kjellvizim talkin bout my wlan
18:25.48kjellvizwireless
18:25.56inigo¿is a module?
18:26.00kjellvizwhen i start up my comp and log on to my user
18:26.07kjellvizi need to start terminal
18:26.14kjellvizand run modprobe wlan0
18:26.28kjellvizthen go to settings and set up the network
18:26.47lefty_cruppsyes wireless is a headache
18:26.50inigoyou can echo wlan0 to /etc/modules ... and the config is in /etc/network/interfaces
18:26.56lefty_cruppsi need to set up my network too
18:27.18lefty_cruppsand every boot i get the error "ca't read /etc/network/interfaces"
18:28.00kjellvizhmmm
18:28.15kjellvizthink i need 2 read some about linux overall
18:28.22kjellvizsince i have no idea what echo is ^^
18:28.36lefty_cruppsat a terminal, type "echo hello" [enter]
18:28.42lefty_cruppsit will spit back "hello"
18:28.57kjellvizok...
18:29.00lefty_cruppsso if you type "echo hello >> hello.txt" [enter]
18:29.12kjellvizahhh
18:29.14inigo:)
18:29.20kjellvizit makes a txt of it
18:29.21lefty_cruppsthat echo, instead of being in the terminal, will >> "get added" to hello.txt
18:29.31lefty_cruppsexactly
18:29.41kjellvizso
18:30.06kjellvizwhat he wants me to do is make a text out of the ouput from wlan0 and put in a directory ?
18:30.07lefty_cruppsso you would type "echo modprobe -m wlan0 >> /etc/module" [enter]
18:30.21lefty_cruppsput it into the file /etc/modules
18:30.30lefty_cruppsbut i am not sure about the first half of my sentance
18:30.52lefty_cruppsecho wlan0" might be all you need...
18:31.31kjellvizill test
18:31.38lefty_cruppsinigo, do you know what kjellviz needs to echo?
18:33.05inigokjellviz and run modprobe wlan0  ->> he says that so...  echo "wlan0" >> /etc/modules
18:34.08kjellvizdo i type the >> ?
18:34.16inigoyes
18:34.22kjellvizsry for being dumb, but im new to linux =P
18:34.28inigoor more simple
18:34.30inigoas root
18:34.34inigoedit the file
18:34.43inigoand at the end, write wlan0
18:34.46inigoin a line
18:35.06inigois the same than echo "wlan0" >> /etc/modules as root
18:35.07kjellvizsheit sry guys i need 2 run, GF called
18:35.15kjellvizi need 2 try this later today
18:35.48kjellvizok... ill copy paste this 2 a file and read over it later
18:35.50kjellviz=)
18:35.57kjellviztnx for help so far
18:36.01inigo:)
18:36.09kjellvizill prob be bothering you even more later =P
18:36.29inigoand if you don't have dhcp, man interfaces and man iwconfig
18:40.25lefty_cruppsanyone understand udev and hotplug?
18:40.39lefty_cruppsin order to use my wireless acx111 card, i need a kernel with sources
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18:40.48lefty_cruppsso i replaced the elive kernel with a debian kernel
18:41.06lefty_cruppsand on 0.4pre, this was not a problem
18:41.19lefty_cruppsbut now my boot time takes all day trying to run /udev/hotplug
18:41.36lefty_cruppswhich doesn't exist since the new kernel uses udev, not hotplug
18:41.47lefty_cruppsand i am confusede by it all
18:42.17inigo¿have you purged the hotplug package?
18:42.29inigoapt-get remove --purge hotplug
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18:42.40egrubThanatermesis, acabo de probar elive 0.3
18:42.43egrubEl mismo problema
18:42.49egrubThanatermesis, lo prob? el guadalinex y ubuntu live
18:42.52egrubAnda perfecto
18:43.00egrubThanatermesis, mi monitor es LG Flatron ez de 17 pulgadas
18:43.45Thanatermesissi egrub.. nose
18:43.47Thanatermesisson diferentes sistemas
18:43.49Thanatermesisdifrentes kernels
18:43.51Thanatermesisy tienen diferentes autodetecciones...
18:43.53Thanatermesisel sistema de la version 0.5 sera mucho mejor y diferente ;)
18:43.55Thanatermesisegrub prueba "vhsync"
18:44.05inigo¿admite elive fijar la resolucion en el arranque?
18:44.29Thanatermesisinigo mmmh, en el arranque te lo pregunta
18:44.39egrubThanatermesis, mejor lo espero por 0.5
18:44.41egrubxD
18:44.41lefty_cruppsinigo, yes i have
18:44.47Thanatermesisegrub sera mucho mejor (espero) ;)
18:44.53egrubSi... Jeje
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19:24.17Stridergreetings
19:24.32Striderapt cookie
19:26.22StriderThanatermesis, I think there is another problem with backgrounds in e17, this my have started because of the update yesterday
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20:05.38lefty_cruppsapt what is /module/cloop.ko ?
20:05.43aptlefty_crupps: what are you talking about?
20:06.01lefty_cruppsapt talking about /modules/cloop.ko
20:06.24lefty_crupps;)  anyone else know why my boot might be getting stuck on /modules/cloop.ko ?
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20:23.38Elive_userhi
20:24.01roxvillehello :)
20:24.11Elive_useroh...hello..
20:24.33Elive_userso you know, why pager just have four desktops in elive 0.4
20:24.54wasynyti think you can add as many you want.. :)
20:24.59roxvilleehh...
20:25.06Elive_userbut how?
20:25.16roxvilleyes you can just add some if you want more
20:25.44roxvillein the menu configurations-> pager ?
20:25.53Elive_userand how? right click -> configuration?
20:25.58Elive_useryes..
20:26.01roxvillewasynyt, i'm in e16 right now... do you have the right path?
20:26.07Elive_userbut there is no menue to choose
20:26.17wasynytroxville, nope.. im on suse now
20:26.22roxvilleno, left click in e17
20:26.51Elive_userleft click is to select the desktop?
20:26.56wasynytleft click - options/configuration/the one above eap manager
20:27.14wasynytleft click to open main menu
20:27.22lefty_cruppse16 is right-click, pager settings
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20:27.50lefty_cruppsmaybe not
20:27.57wasynytin e17 you have to open the e17 allaround manager thingie
20:27.59Elive_useryou mean configure panel?°
20:28.03roxvilleElive_user, left-click ON the desktop, choose "configurations" in the menu
20:28.04lefty_cruppselpanel
20:28.06wasynyti thin yes
20:28.27roxvillethen "configuration panel" and then "pager"
20:29.12Elive_useri actually dont have pager....i have for example "module settings"
20:29.33wasynytit is in module section
20:29.39roxvilleif you scroll down a little
20:29.52roxvilleyes module settings!!
20:29.59roxvillethe pager is a module
20:30.07wasynyt:)
20:30.34Elive_useryes....and then you reach the same setting, but you cant add desktops...
20:30.46Elive_useri think this is a little bug...?
20:30.52Elive_userjust ask thana..?
20:31.41roxvilleElive_user, if it's a bug... it's not a n elive bug, but an e bug, and should be reported to #e
20:31.49wasynytthere is this little module that makes those desktops appear, in it you have two slider to adjust the ammount of shown desktops.. have you not found it
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20:32.20wasynyti think its i"something"
20:32.26Elive_userpager is this module
20:32.30wasynytok
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20:33.08Elive_useri also tested elive 0.3 and there was this feature with adding more desktops
20:33.59wasynytok.. i still remember that to add desktops you use vertical and horisontal sliders..
20:34.16Elive_useryeah...
20:34.19Elive_useri do...
20:34.22roxvilleElive_user, it's in DESKTO SETTINGS!
20:34.42Elive_useroh...srry...
20:34.51Elive_userthank you!
20:34.56roxvilledon't be afraid to look around a little... e changes quite a bit from time to time
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20:35.10roxvilleyeah... be ashamed!
20:35.19wasynyt:D
20:35.20roxvilleroxville, be ashamed
20:35.56wasynytroxville what have you drinken?
20:36.07roxvillefinlandia
20:36.20wasynyt:D ok
20:36.35wasynyttrue support personel
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20:37.01roxvillethere's a good vodka from estonia too... called viru valge... but i haven't found it here in the states yet
20:37.41roxvillewell thana really tried to help someone yesterday, and they ended up being rude to him
20:38.00wasynyt:S
20:38.02roxvillehe said "i think elive needs english speaking developers"
20:38.03Elive_userbefore i forget....i really found a small bug....i you are changing the mouse-button-size...it's size changes back in applications
20:38.34roxvilleyes Elive_user it does that... and that is ....
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20:38.57kjellvizhey again
20:39.19wasynythey
20:39.19kjellvizinigo, tnx for help, worked like a charm !!!
20:39.23roxvillehej kjellviz
20:39.32kjellvizthena roxville
20:39.36Elive_userjust size the mousesize etremly small....in enlightenment the mousesize is small...and in applucations it'S big again..
20:39.36kjellviztjena*
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20:39.47StriderThanatermesis, you around?
20:40.06kjellvizso, i downloaded some new themes for e16
20:40.15inigokjellviz, :)
20:40.17ThanatermesisStrider yes
20:40.20kjellvizbut cant figure out how 2 change them ^^
20:40.31roxvillecool nick kjellviz :)
20:40.39kjellviz=P
20:40.46kjellvizuhmmm thanks ?
20:40.47kjellviz=P
20:41.04Striderhow would I change the icon for elpanel...( I dislike it because it  is too much like evidence icon)
20:41.05wasynytroxville, swedish ofcourse
20:41.11roxvillevar e du ifrån kjellviz ?
20:41.16kjellviznorge
20:41.21kjellvizfast bor i sthlm
20:41.24ThanatermesisStrider i have search around 6 shops today but only one has the "linux format" magazine... and exactly 2 days ago has retourned the review of january because is old... and aparently not is posible to give it again :/
20:41.40roxvillejag är i usa, och det e ett jäkla bök att byta fram å tillbaka
20:41.52kjellvizcharset ?
20:41.56Striderso Thanatermesis   you want me to make a copy for you of the article?
20:42.08roxvilleok, jeg er svensk fra sthlm
20:42.16kjellvizoki =)
20:42.16Thanatermesisscanned ? yes please Strider
20:42.24kjellvizva gör du i us ?
20:42.31kjellvizstuderar ?
20:42.37Thanatermesisif i look it good, i try to obtain this review... i don't know... maybe "linux format" send old reviews :/
20:42.37roxvilleknullar runt...
20:42.43roxvillefast bara med min fru
20:42.44StriderI will...   ik now tell me how to change the icon for elpanel...eap editor doesnt seem to work
20:42.46roxvilleÖ=
20:42.49roxville:)
20:42.55kjellviz^^
20:43.07roxvillehon e härifrån
20:43.10kjellvizaha
20:43.19kjellvizdå fattar jag =P
20:43.29Strideryou could order it online I am sure...
20:43.29kjellvizvart nånstans i us ?
20:43.35roxvillejag bor i charleston, south carolina... på östkusten... i sydstaterna
20:43.44kjellviznice
20:43.50kjellvizbra väder där ? =P
20:44.14StriderThanatermesis, do you know how I can change the icon for elpanel?
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20:44.46kjellvizanyone know how i change themes in e16 ?
20:44.46ThanatermesisStrider edit the eap file on .e/e/applications/all
20:45.16kjellvizno problem in e17, but the icon for changing themes aint there in e16 elpanel
20:45.32Striderhow do I edit the eap file, the eap editor wont touch it    or I don't understand how to use it
20:45.52ThanatermesisStrider what is your problem ? the icon has dissapeared of the ibar after the upgrade ?
20:46.10roxville<kjellviz> bra väder där ? =P varmare än i sthlm, ja... lite regnigt idag, dock
20:46.17Striderno   I hate the icon because it is too much like evidence
20:46.42Thanatermesislol, ok
20:47.25Thanatermesisapt wake sinplomo
20:47.26aptsinplomo: GOOD MORNING!!!
20:47.26Striderbut eap editor doesnt really edit eap files...it assigns icons (png) to programs
20:47.38Thanatermesisapt wake sinplomo
20:47.39aptsinplomo: GOOD MORNING!!!
20:47.58roxvillelol Thanatermesis
20:48.08ThanatermesisStrider use "e_util_thing_idontknowname"
20:48.10kjellviz^^
20:48.31roxvillekjellviz, var i stlm bor du? jag har inte vart hemma på över 4 år nu...
20:48.42kjellvizsöder
20:48.55kjellviznära södra stasjon
20:49.21kjellvizfast bor lite på öster också
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20:49.39kjellvizmin flickvän har en legenhet där
20:51.39roxvillesjysst... östermalm...
20:51.43kjellvizu recommend using e16 or e17 ?
20:52.02roxvillejag bodde där ett tag... fan nu har jag glömt vad gatan hette...
20:52.06kjellvizaa det e inte illa där
20:52.23kjellvizhon bor på storgatan
20:52.56roxvillejag använder både e16 och e17... e17 ser ballare ut, men e16 e mycket stabilare... testa och vilket du gillar bäst
20:53.03kjellviztyp den enda gatan jag vet namnet på där =P
20:53.23kjellvizhar bara bott i sverige i 1 år nu så =p
20:53.51kjellvizaa jag gillar värkligen e16, den mac menyn e ubercool
20:54.02roxvilleyep
20:54.12roxvilleden finns i e17 också
20:54.19roxvilleengage heter modulen
20:54.50kjellvizfast det ser ut till att e17 e lite bättre konfigurerbar
20:54.53kjellvizahhh k
20:55.22kjellvizgåre å få den i e17 ?
20:55.43wasynytbut engage does not work in my elive.. the newest updates broke it
20:56.04kjellvizit works on my e16
20:56.09SteveMyersO.o
20:56.18SteveMyersshould be working on e17
20:56.21SteveMyersmine works like a charm
20:56.22kjellvizbut havent tried it in e17 yet
20:56.46SteveMyersah
20:57.03kjellvizinstalled elive bout 5 hours ago
20:57.05kjellviz^^
20:57.08roxvillei do not even see it right now... so give it a week or so
20:57.23kjellviz+ im a linux newbie
20:57.23wasynytmine does not.. it has huge portion of some odd picture with it .. looks awful
20:57.36SteveMyersweird
20:57.49wasynytagree
20:57.56SteveMyerskjellviz, better to be a linux n00b than windows user
20:58.02kjellvizlol
20:58.09kjellvizwell im still a windowsuser
20:58.13kjellvizthis is just my laptop
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20:58.19kjellvizwhich i use for surfing
20:58.23wasynyteveryone is... by force
20:58.24SteveMyersoh ok
20:58.28kjellvizi play lots of games
20:58.40kjellvizso windows is the only fair solution for me
20:59.09SteveMyershmm..ok, sounds good to me
20:59.30StriderThanatermesis, that damn eap editor is deceiving. It saves the eap file to the home dir, not to the .e/e/apps/all dir...then it has to be replaced manually
20:59.54SteveMyersI love this blue eyed theme for e17
20:59.55kjellvizi tried using cedega and point2play
21:00.10kjellvizgot WoW up n running on ubuntu
21:00.15Striderbut it works  :)  my elpanel is now a big set of keys
21:00.18ThanatermesisStrider enter first on .e/e/applications/all dir
21:00.22Thanatermesisand then launch it
21:00.29Striderahhh
21:00.38Striderthat is the secret
21:00.41kjellvizbut i dont fancy using several hours whenever they patch it on fixing what broke
21:00.48Thanatermesisthat is the shell :)
21:00.49Thanatermesisapt shell
21:00.51aptrumour has it, shell is telnet http://www.boston.ru, or user@localhost$ rm -rf_
21:00.55Thanatermesisapt console
21:00.56aptextra, extra, read all about it, console is the opposite of x
21:01.00Thanatermesislol
21:01.03SteveMyersrm -rf is your friend :D
21:01.14Thanatermesislol SteveMyers, you are dangerous
21:01.20SteveMyerslol
21:01.25Stridershould I just do a "rm -rf /" then?
21:01.42Strider+B)
21:01.45SteveMyersrm -rf to the location/ofthe/file
21:01.55ThanatermesisStrider maybe not is the better idea for fix things...
21:02.02SteveMyersyeah
21:02.12StriderLOLOL
21:02.18ThanatermesisSteveMyers maybe better  rm -irf  ;)
21:02.25SteveMyershehe
21:02.30SteveMyersagreed
21:02.33Thanatermesis(man rm)
21:02.33Striderhave you ever tried rm irf / b4?
21:03.22StriderI bee back........ buzzz
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21:08.51kjellvizaite great
21:08.59kjellvizgot the engage now in e17
21:09.00kjellvizbut
21:09.15kjellvizhow do i add programs to it ?
21:09.27wasynytthru entange
21:09.32wasynytin terminal entangle
21:09.45kjellvizk ill try
21:09.58wasynytbut first you have to create a eap for them
21:10.32kjellvizmost progs that came installed with elive has dont they ?
21:10.57wasynytyes they do
21:11.02kjellvizbtw
21:11.09wasynytyes
21:11.22kjellvizany1 know of a good app for conncting to windows remote desktop ?
21:11.33kjellviztheres one in elpanel
21:11.48kjellvizbut it doesent give fullcolour image
21:12.21wasynyt?
21:12.22SteveMyershmm
21:12.27SteveMyersnetwork sharing
21:12.35wasynytahh.. k
21:13.01kjellvizdunno what its called outside bill gates world ^^
21:13.05SteveMyersI tried to find one myself on here, but let me find it in synaptic
21:13.14kjellvizin windows its called remote desktop
21:13.46SteveMyersyou want to have access to your windows files right?
21:13.57kjellviznah not like that
21:14.06kjellvizi want to connect to my win comp
21:14.12SteveMyersoh
21:14.16SteveMyersone sec then
21:14.18kjellvizand take control over mouse n keyb
21:14.28kjellvizcontrol the comp from my laptop
21:14.29SteveMyerssounds like pcanywhere
21:14.39SteveMyersever heard of pcanywhere?
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21:14.52kjellvizsomething like that maybe
21:15.04kjellvizbut winxp has built in support
21:15.15kjellvizand i succesfully connected with it
21:15.21kjellvizthru the option in elpanel
21:15.25kjellvizon users
21:15.27kjellvizbut
21:15.49kjellvizthat 1 gives like 16 colours and poor refreshrate
21:17.01SteveMyersok got one
21:17.05SteveMyersvncserver
21:17.08SteveMyersin synaptic
21:17.09roxvillex11vnc from elpanel is awesome!
21:17.37roxvilleok, i got a gig tonight... gotta take a nap... bbl
21:17.39kjellvizroxville, u know if its possible to set it up to allow more datastream ?
21:17.55roxvillekjellviz, nope, not my thing... sorry
21:17.59kjellvizive used vnc server b4
21:18.08kjellvizhas the same problem as said
21:18.18roxvillehmmm
21:18.24kjellvizthose progs where made for using over the web
21:18.42kjellvizso the limit is low to restrain bandwidth
21:18.48roxvillewell ask around here, there are lots of ppl with lots of experience...
21:18.50kjellvizbut thats not a problem in a lan
21:18.52SteveMyerstime to add some gnome on this desktop
21:18.53roxvilleyes, correct
21:19.23roxvilleso sorry kjellviz i gotta lay down now, or my daughter will wake me up too early
21:19.30kjellviznp
21:19.31kjellviz=)
21:19.35kjellvizcya arounf
21:19.56kjellvizseems like im in elive for the long run
21:19.57kjellviz=)
21:20.00roxvilleSteveMyers, when you know how to add another wm to entrance... please tell me! :)
21:20.00SteveMyerskjellviz, did you check out vncserver?
21:20.08kjellviznot yet
21:20.09SteveMyersrox
21:20.12SteveMyerswill do m8
21:20.12kjellvizwill do in a sec
21:20.13SteveMyers:)
21:20.20roxvilleit's a bit of a hassle, i beliveve... but not impossible :)
21:20.21SteveMyersI'm adding gnome right now
21:20.27roxvilleciao peeps :)
21:20.31SteveMyerslater bro
21:20.36kjellvizciao
21:20.42SteveMyerswhat does that mean?
21:20.45SteveMyerscaio?
21:20.48SteveMyerserr ciao
21:21.00roxvillemeans ta-taa
21:21.03roxvillelol
21:21.03SteveMyersoh ok
21:21.05SteveMyerslol
21:21.15roxvillesee y'all later... is that better?
21:21.26SteveMyersmuch better
21:21.27SteveMyers:D
21:21.31roxville:D
21:24.07SteveMyersok, here we go
21:24.15SteveMyerstime to see if Gnome is added to Elive 17
21:24.18SteveMyersbrb
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21:26.21StriderThanatermesis, the article scan is upoaded as "eliveart.pnm"
21:26.22Thanatermesisapt x en es thin ice there ;)
21:26.35Thanatermesisthanks Strider, i make a look imediately :)
21:26.44Strideruse entice to open it
21:26.55Striderimagemagic stinks
21:26.56Thanatermesisany person knows the translation of this word ? (apt)
21:27.16kjellvizso whos the brain behind this distro ?
21:27.35Striderkjellviz, thanatermesis
21:27.37Wi1dChildkjellviz, Thanatermesis
21:27.43kjellvizok
21:27.52kjellvizi just want to say thank you over again Thanatermesis
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21:28.07kjellvizyou have opened the world of open source for me
21:28.09kjellvizfinally !
21:28.11kjellviz=)
21:28.11Striderits a great distro   isn't it?
21:28.25kjellvizawesome
21:28.27kjellvizamazing
21:28.28Strider:)
21:28.30kjellvizstunning
21:28.36kjellvizi love it !
21:28.44Thanatermesislol, good kjellviz :) welcome
21:28.51kjellviztnx
21:28.51StriderI don't even want to look at windows ...after elive
21:28.54Thanatermesiskjellviz and has just start ;)
21:29.10Thanatermesisthe main priority for now on Elive is to make a GOOD and perfect complete system...
21:29.25kjellvizand a good thank you to my nephew that tipped me bout it !
21:29.34Thanatermesisafter this, the main priority is to make it more beautiful and eye-candy :)
21:29.48kjellvizmore ?
21:29.48SteveMyersTry out Elive Essence in Audio, it's awesome ;) great coding music ;)
21:29.48Thanatermesisooh yes ;)
21:29.49kjellvizi cant see how
21:29.59StriderThanatermesis, to make it more for flaming noobs...LOL
21:30.01kjellvizhavent seen anything more beutiful than this
21:30.03SteveMyerslol
21:30.04Thanatermesisjust be patient and you look ;)
21:30.17kjellvizalthough the things i like most is "borrowed" from mac
21:30.18kjellviz=)
21:30.33kjellviz=P
21:30.47kjellviztsclient is a GNOME program for remotely accessing Microsoft Windows NT/2000
21:30.52Stridermaybe patterned somewhat from mac...
21:30.56Thanatermesisborrowed ? what is ? i don't know very mac machines
21:30.57kjellvizcan i use this with elive ?
21:30.58SteveMyersor vncserver
21:31.00SteveMyersyes
21:31.08Thanatermesis<kjellviz> tsclient is a GNOME program for remotely accessing Microsoft Windows NT/2000
21:31.08SteveMyersvncserver is awesome
21:31.10Thanatermesistry elpanel ;)
21:31.18kjellvizwithout installing the full gnome thingy ?
21:31.25kjellvizi did Thanatermesis
21:31.30SteveMyerscorrect
21:31.34Thanatermesisin the second icon... "direct remote desktop" ;)
21:31.40kjellvizbut i want more colours
21:31.46SteveMyersvncserver is a stand alone client
21:31.47Thanatermesisis a practice and fast tool
21:31.47StriderSteveMyers, can I access my other computer with vnc?
21:31.54kjellvizim not connecting to it thru a modem
21:31.55SteveMyersif they're on the same network strider
21:31.58SteveMyersyes
21:31.59kjellvizbut thru lan
21:32.10Thanatermesis<Strider> SteveMyers, can I access my other computer with vnc?
21:32.17Thanatermesistry the thing to i have just say before
21:32.19kjellvizso i want full colourdepth and fast refreshrate
21:32.22Thanatermesisit uses vnc
21:32.26SteveMyersyep
21:32.46kjellvizThanatermesis, can i config it to allow higher details ?
21:32.46SteveMyersyou have two options, elpanel which does as well or stand alone vncserver, it's basically same run through
21:33.18Thanatermesiskjellviz of course, is just a script, edit /usr/bin/remote-desktop-manager
21:33.24StriderSteveMyers, I have a wireless network that has three comps using the one internet...does that mean they are on the same network   (I know nothing about networking in Linux)
21:33.29kjellvizahhh k ill dig into that 1
21:33.30kjellviztnc
21:33.33kjellviztnx*
21:33.36SteveMyersyes Strider
21:33.57SteveMyersif you have one router and cable box and they're all connected using that wireless network then you're good to go
21:34.18StriderI have one router and dsl modem...
21:34.32Striderthe 3 puters use same internet
21:34.53SteveMyersare they on DSL or wireless?
21:35.13StriderI have the dsl on wireless...
21:35.23SteveMyersk
21:36.20Stridertwo puters hook wirelessly , and one is wired, all to same router
21:36.26Striderwireless router
21:36.41Thanatermesisnot bad article Strider :)
21:36.53SteveMyersok ty, then you should have access if you have set that permission for other users to view your computer
21:36.53Thanatermesiscan you posible to scan it on colors ?
21:37.10kjellvizuhmmm
21:37.15Strideryes Thanatermesis
21:37.17SteveMyersand like wise on those computers
21:37.22kjellviza hint to where i can change the settings Thanatermesis  ?
21:37.33Striderok SteveMyers    I will try
21:37.36SteveMyersok
21:37.39ThanatermesisStrider good, make it on colors please, and i add it on my new homepage in a post ;)
21:37.43kjellvizcant see anywhere i can set colourdepth, refreshrate and so
21:37.56Stridernew homepage in a post??
21:38.41Strideryou dont want me to upload it?
21:38.44SteveMyersI just noticed that they have d3a icons from gnome-look.org on here
21:38.50Thanatermesiskjellviz depends... this tool calls "x11vnc", and it serve your actual destkop (no a new session)... search this word and put on it any thing of you like... just remember to this tool is provided by the package "elive-scripts", if you upgrade it, then you have again the original
21:39.13ThanatermesisStrider yes yes, upload... i use it for put on my homepage ;)
21:39.19Striderahh
21:39.24Striderokeedokee
21:39.35kjellvizwell im not sure if u understand what im trying to accomplish
21:39.38Striderbeee righty back    BUzzzzzz
21:40.04Thanatermesiskjellviz use "scite" for edit it.. and search the word "x11vnc"
21:40.35Thanatermesiskjellviz exactly the line 14 is the command to are launched for serve your desktop
21:40.41Thanatermesisput here more options if you want
21:41.09kjellvizahhh ye but then i need to know how to program scripts
21:41.13kjellvizwhich i dont ^^
21:41.32Thanatermesishehehe
21:41.51kjellvizwas hoping there already was a string there
21:41.57Thanatermesisif you know how to launch the command with options... then just you need to add this options in the line 14
21:41.59kjellvizsetting a limit which i could raise
21:42.11Thanatermesisman x11vnc
21:42.36kjellvizi dont m8
21:42.44kjellvizim really a newb with linux
21:43.14Thanatermesisdon't scary of it :)
21:44.05kjellvizhehe nah im not easily scare
21:44.11Thanatermesiskjellviz try this:   zenity --info --text='Im not a newb'
21:44.20Thanatermesislaunch it from a terminal
21:44.26kjellviz^^
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21:45.35Thanatermesisdo you have look kjellviz ?
21:45.35StriderThanatermesis, done...
21:45.47Thanatermesisthanks Strider, give me a second and i post it...
21:45.51kjellvizsec
21:46.49kjellvizlol
21:46.52kjellviz^^
21:47.00kjellvizyes now i did =P
21:47.02Thanatermesisthis is just a example of options in one command kjellviz
21:47.34kjellvizye
21:47.35Thanatermesisyou have set the options "--info --text='blah' ", and then has launched "zenity" in the "info" mode and inserting the text "blah"
21:47.38Thanatermesiseasy, yes ? :)
21:48.00Thanatermesiskjellviz try this now:   zenity  --question --title "Alert"   --text  "Microsoft  Windows has been found! Would you like to remove it?"
21:48.27kjellvizbut changing resolution, colourdepth, bandwith and so on is another thing than making "hello world" ;)
21:48.42StriderThanatermesis, any idea why some image files will not work for desktop background ? The background tool in elpanel sees the image files and says it loads them, but when I go to embrace,,,the backgrounds aren't there...
21:48.48kjellvizand there is no windows on this comp =P
21:48.56Thanatermesisis just a demo of the optiosn for a program.. you have all the options in "man x11vnc" kjellviz
21:49.03SteveMyerswow
21:49.19ThanatermesisStrider maybe.. it has spaces ?
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21:49.57Strider:)  I think you are right, backgrounds from kde.org  with spaces!
21:50.05Elive_usergood morning
21:50.24ThanatermesisStrider yes, is just a minor bug.. i need to fix it, maybe after, for this moments if you really want this image just change the name ;)
21:50.29Thanatermesisgood morning Elive_user
21:50.33Elive_user:)
21:50.48CowboyDanthank you Thanatermesis
21:51.09CowboyDancan anyone here help me with a atheros wireless card install?
21:51.19kjellvizaite Thanatermesis, but i truly dont see how i can use that to edit the vncviewers output =\
21:51.30Thanatermesisouch.. this is a ugly thing CowboyDan
21:51.36CowboyDanso i've seen
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21:51.51Thanatermesisather has change a thing in their driver now and you need to put a command ALL THE TIME of you want it
21:51.55CowboyDani installed the madwifi elive driver but i don't think it helped
21:52.08Thanatermesisvery ugly... i don't know why works in this way now :(
21:52.15CowboyDancan i put it in the rc_local?
21:52.20Thanatermesisyes :)
21:52.28CowboyDanbut i can't get it to work the first time
21:52.53CowboyDanits an older card, does that help?
21:53.30ThanatermesisCowboyDan, try this:  wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
21:53.45CowboyDanas root?
21:53.55Thanatermesisyes
21:54.28CowboyDanhow as DHCP? it geve an error
21:54.37Thanatermesisdhcp ath0   now
21:54.43Thanatermesisdhclient sorry
21:54.45CowboyDanat the end?
21:54.45Thanatermesisdhclient ath0
21:54.51Thanatermesisafter this command
21:54.58CowboyDanok one moment
21:55.36CowboyDanioctl: no such devices
21:55.51Thanatermesis"ifconfig" show your "ath0" card after to launch the first command ?
21:56.14CowboyDanfirst command had error: ioctl: No such devices
21:56.24CowboyDanifconfig shows eth0 and sit0
21:56.31CowboyDansit0??
21:56.35Thanatermesisgive me a second.. i reboot my laptop for look it
21:56.41CowboyDanooh thanks man!
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22:00.54Strideronce I share directories on the same eth0, where can I see the other puter?
22:02.06Thanatermesisexist a "scan mode", but not is implemented becuase needs some ports open... but just "you need to know" :)
22:02.38Striderdoes it need samba?
22:03.30Thanatermesisno
22:03.32CowboyDanyou could use ethernet
22:03.38CowboyDansomehow
22:05.38CowboyDanmaan i like linux but there are so many little headaches
22:05.44Striderhow do I find my ipaddress...
22:05.48CowboyDanifconfig
22:07.49kjellvizwhere do i find the standard icons for elive ?
22:08.15kjellvizor for a program i installed via synaptic
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22:09.10CowboyDanaarg maan, does anyone know where the menu file is stored on the CD?  I lost two laptops' menus while i was trying to add a prog listing.  both laptops now only show ternimal and internet...
22:09.10ThanashibaCowboyDan: wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
22:09.25ThanatermesisCowboyDan this is the command of i need to launch on my laptop
22:09.38Thanatermesisbut sometimes not works and i need to reboot
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22:09.59kjellvizooops
22:09.59Thanatermesisjust try it after to boot your computer, before make any network related configuration/thing
22:10.02CowboyDanit still says: ioctl: No such device
22:10.02kjellviz=P
22:10.12CowboyDanok i gotta reboot right now then
22:10.22kjellvizif some1 answered me please repeat, dint see
22:10.26CowboyDanin the meantime, do you know where the menu file is on the CD?
22:10.47CowboyDanand to where i need to copy it in my ~ ?
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22:13.57kjellvizwhere can i find the icon for a program i installed via synaptic ?
22:14.21Thanatermesiskjellviz launch the program, and drag-n-drop the icon to your ibar
22:14.33kjellvizi use the engage
22:14.41Thanatermesisno luck then =)
22:14.53kjellvizcant find the icon ?
22:14.56Thanatermesismaybe lauching entangle and drag-n-drop to it...
22:15.14Thanatermesisi don't think to you can drag-n-drop to engage
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22:15.18kjellvizdrag n drop the whole program ?
22:15.22CowboyDanback
22:15.54CowboyDanwas it
22:16.10CowboyDanwlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
22:16.11CowboyDan?
22:16.37CowboyDanaaw man i lost my launcher bar across the bottom...
22:17.00ThanatermesisCowboyDan control + alt + end
22:17.15ThanatermesisCowboyDan yes... and i have also a error message... but it works for me
22:17.33CowboyDanoh that did work!!
22:17.40CowboyDanbut the ctl alt end didnt
22:19.01Thanatermesiswhat launcher you have lost ?
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22:20.55Strider:(
22:21.17CowboyDanwell all the lights come on, but it doens't wanna do much
22:22.06Striderit may start smoking and flames shooting out in a moment....elive has been known to light up noobs on fire...
22:22.55Strider<----covered with scortch marks
22:24.39CowboyDanok i think that i got wireless!
22:24.39CowboyDani have launched that which has FFox, XChat, Terminal, Elpanel... the main thing at the bottom
22:24.42CowboyDani have launched that which has FFox, XChat, Terminal, Elpanel... the main thing at the bottom
22:24.46CowboyDani think my inet doesnt work
22:24.47_hugo_kjellviz, hi :)
22:24.50CowboyDani think my wireless inet doesnt work
22:24.52CowboyDani have launched that which has FFox, XChat, Terminal, Elpanel... the main thing at the bottom
22:25.02CowboyDanhello?
22:25.19CowboyDansorry i think i am repeating
22:25.27Thanatermesisyes, i think
22:25.39ThanatermesisCowboyDan you are on e16 or e17 ?
22:25.40CowboyDanlol
22:25.43CowboyDane16
22:25.52_hugo_Thanatermesis, have you any idea why linux thinks my gfxcard is only agp4x?
22:25.56_hugo_I have a ti4200
22:26.03_hugo_can't find settings for it in bios :s
22:26.16_hugo_Thanatermesis, i chose the nvidia2 driver when i installed
22:27.10Thanatermesisno idea _hugo_
22:27.22ThanatermesisCowboyDan and "control + alt + end" dont' restore it ?
22:27.30_hugo_I'm trying to run americas army, but it's laggy as hell :/
22:27.34CowboyDanno, it was gone after my reboot
22:29.16Thanatermesis_hugo_ do you like the american fascism ?
22:29.21CowboyDanlol
22:29.38Thanatermesisno CowboyDan.... is true.. this a game for this
22:29.49Thanatermesisis free for the ppl use it, is created by the american governement
22:29.56CowboyDani know
22:29.57Thanatermesisfor give feelings in the mind of the ppl
22:30.08Thanatermesis"american is good, another persons are shit"
22:30.31Thanatermesisoooh...  poor american... one american soldier is died in the hands of a devil chinese
22:30.39ThanatermesisKILL CHINESSES !!!
22:30.50CowboyDan??? chill maan!
22:30.53_hugo_Thanatermesis, nope
22:30.56Thanatermesisi think to you can't posible to select another persons for play... just americans
22:31.02Thanatermesisfor then, YOU are american
22:31.06_hugo_but I like certain games :P
22:31.13ThanatermesisYOU are the poor person and the anothers are the fucking bad boys
22:31.56Thanatermesisis a manipulators-mind game, and i hate this
22:32.15kjellvizlol
22:32.21CowboyDanits free software, use as needed.  or not use.
22:32.33CowboyDanwel,, free as in beer
22:32.59Thanatermesishow do you think then to has this good graphics ? FREE ? do you think to one persons make all this awesome graphics for don't obtain any money ? this lot of work and of course... this LOT of money "trashe'd" ?
22:32.59kjellviz_hugo_, hola
22:33.05kjellvizwas afk
22:33.07kjellvizeating
22:33.13_hugo_kjellviz, how the eliving going? :)
22:33.17_hugo_just came home from work..
22:33.24kjellvizgoin great
22:33.41kjellvizjust wondering where i can find the icon for a prog i installed via synaptic
22:34.00kjellvizwas gonna set up a eap for it
22:34.06CowboyDanwhat is the name of the launcher at the bottom??
22:34.19_hugo_kjellviz, i'm wondring about the same thing :P
22:34.27_hugo_need evolution on the ibar
22:34.33CowboyDanis it ibox in e16?
22:34.42CowboyDanibar on e16 also?
22:34.47_hugo_yes
22:34.52kjellvizibox is where it goes when u minimize
22:34.57Thanatermesisits diferents things but yes
22:35.11CowboyDanhow do i restart it?
22:35.25CowboyDansudo ibar: command not found
22:35.31Thanatermesisrestart ? o_O
22:35.39CowboyDanits gone man
22:35.44CowboyDani want it back
22:35.44StriderThanatermesis, is samba needed to share files from linux networked machines?
22:35.49Thanatermesisnot is a command... is internally to E
22:35.52CowboyDanshouldn't be
22:35.55CowboyDanStrider
22:36.03Striderhi CowboyDan
22:36.20CowboyDanok but it is gone.  but i now have an empty box on the desktop, i don;t know what it is
22:36.23CowboyDanhi strider!
22:36.25kjellvizso any1 know where i can find iconfile for a prog ive installed ?
22:36.38StriderCowboyDan, you get ibar back in config menu
22:36.44CowboyDanno sorry... maybe at that prog's website on sourceforge?
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22:36.50Striderreload the module
22:36.55CowboyDane16?
22:37.00_hugo_kjellviz, what if you download an iconpack and use eap editor to add the icon?
22:37.07Strideroh  16...
22:37.14kjellvizi could
22:37.17kjellviz=)
22:37.23CowboyDani know,.,.
22:37.28kjellvizbut that would be to easy =P
22:37.31CowboyDanor, i dont know
22:37.33_hugo_lol =)
22:37.42kjellvizwud be good to know for future references as well
22:37.56_hugo_Jackie Brown on tv2 atm :D
22:38.34kjellviznice
22:38.46gnaunitedWhere is the default location for themes?
22:38.57Stridereasier than eap editor...call up your program  (alt-esc) at the right hand or left top of menu , right click the icon, then edit the icon from there, use any .png image (put it in home first) as your icon of choice.....
22:39.15Striderbut this is for 17      not 16
22:40.04kjellvizaite ill try that
22:40.35Striderfirst call the program alt-esc type name run...
22:40.59Striderat the top of menu you will see icon image  right click it
22:41.05Striderchoose edit icon
22:41.09kjellvizahhh
22:41.33StriderI make my own icons with gimp
22:42.06Stridericon prefers any .png format   put the icon you want into your home directory first
22:42.29kjellvizit opens it in eap
22:42.39Strideryes
22:42.47Striderit opens in entangle
22:42.54kjellvizand my icon is the terminal =\
22:43.06Strider?
22:43.18kjellvizsame icon as for terminal
22:43.23Striderim not following
22:43.28Striderare you in 17?
22:43.39kjellvizyep
22:43.43kjellvizi get it up m8
22:43.46kjellvizno problem
22:43.56kjellvizbut it says its a termnial prog
22:43.57Striderok , what are you trying to change?
22:44.04kjellvizmaybe cos i ran it from terminal
22:44.05kjellvizsec
22:44.25Striderdont run it from terminal   run from alt-esc
22:44.27kjellvizahhhh
22:44.34kjellvizye that solved it !!!
22:44.38kjellviztnx a lot !
22:44.43Strideror you will change your terminal icon  :LOL
22:45.01kjellvizbut no
22:45.05kjellvizit dint lol
22:45.17Striderwhy?
22:45.19kjellviztheres no icon when it opens
22:45.26kjellviztheres a icon on top left
22:45.35kjellvizi rightclick and choose create icon
22:45.37Strideryou have to edit the icon
22:45.49Striderright click it
22:46.16kjellvizdont have the option to edit it
22:46.20kjellvizonly create
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22:46.29Striderthen do it
22:46.31kjellvizmaybe there aint a full size icon for this program
22:46.42kjellvizwhat size is a icon ?
22:46.52Striderkjellviz, you are not folliing my instructions
22:47.03kjellvizye i am
22:47.03Striderforget the fing stupid eap[ editor
22:47.10kjellviznot using eap
22:47.16kjellvizheres what im doing:
22:47.18Strideropen the program
22:47.22kjellvizalt-esx
22:47.27kjellvizesc*
22:47.39kjellviztype name of prog (tsclient)
22:47.41kjellvizit opens
22:47.45Striderok
22:47.56StriderI will do it with you  hold...
22:48.09kjellvizon top left i click the icon and there i have the option to create icon
22:48.11kjellvizno edit
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22:50.08Stridercreate the ffffffing icon!!!!!
22:50.13kjellvizhehe
22:50.21kjellvizim following u 100%
22:50.23Strider:)
22:50.31kjellvizwhen i do exactly the same with xchat
22:50.35kjellvizi get the icon
22:50.36Stridercreate because there isnt one already
22:50.46kjellvizi can choose "edit icon" from menu
22:51.13kjellvizbut with the prog im trying to fix, i get the "create icon" instead
22:51.16Strideryes   but create it in this case....#take deep breaths
22:51.25kjellvizprob this prog doesent have a big icon
22:51.26StriderCREATE IT
22:51.31kjellvizso thats why i asked u
22:51.37kjellvizwhat size is a icon ?
22:51.38kjellviz=)
22:51.53Striderdoesnt matter make an icon to your pref
22:51.53kjellvizpx x px
22:52.05kjellvizk
22:52.07Striderjust needs to be png
22:52.11gnaunitedIn e16, is there a way to put icons on your desktop?
22:52.22Striderno gnaunited
22:52.25gnaunitedic
22:52.43kjellvizk
22:52.51Striderbut gnaunited  you can have a icon tray
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22:53.30Striderin setting choose minimize as icons
22:53.39kjellvizhow do i take a screenshot ?
22:53.41kjellviz=P
22:53.57Striderin 17  load the screenshot module
22:53.57quidam-kjellviz, import picture.jpg
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22:54.51Strider1. menu configuration confi. panel
22:54.54Elive_user2hi
22:55.02Strider2. go to modules
22:55.05Elive_userhi eliveU2
22:55.13Elive_user2hahah xD
22:55.15Strider3. choose the screenshot module
22:56.02Striderenable it
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22:56.41Enlightednass
22:56.45Mutacionrenas
22:56.49_hugo_kjellviz, did you figure out the iconstuff?
22:56.57Striderkjellviz, ....
22:57.00kjellvizyah
22:57.09kjellvizim makin a icon in gimp now
22:57.12Striderdid you find the snapshot module
22:57.16Strider?
22:57.18kjellvizno need
22:57.19_hugo_kjellviz, was it like I said? :þ
22:57.28kjellvizgimp had screenie function
22:57.55kjellvizremind me what u said ^^
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22:58.05kjellvizStrider here has said lots =P
22:58.13_hugo_oh :)
22:58.19_hugo_i'd better scroll up then :]
22:59.06Striderill be back...bye
23:01.35_hugo_lol
23:01.36_hugo_easy =)
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23:03.06gnaunitedAny idea how I can turn on the bootsplash on the hd version?
23:03.06Striderdoes anyone know how to set up the tsclient thing?
23:03.21Stridergnaunited, yes...
23:03.26_hugo_Strider, why isn't mplayer on my ibar?
23:03.52_hugo_It has an icon by deafult...
23:04.07Strider_hugo_, did you change an icon?
23:04.41_hugo_Strider, nope
23:04.45Strider_hugo_, e16 or 17
23:04.48_hugo_e17
23:04.50kjellvizStrider, i have used tsclient yes
23:05.11Strider_hugo_, for to entangle
23:05.21StriderI mean go to entangle
23:05.26Striderthrough elpanel
23:05.34_hugo_yap
23:05.41Striderclick ibar
23:05.51Stridertop of menu
23:06.01Strideris mplayer there?
23:06.15_hugo_first have to find it in elpanel :)
23:06.32Striderok right elpanel button
23:06.34_hugo_used alt+esc
23:06.38_hugo_and it's not there
23:06.39StriderI mean leaft
23:06.49Striderleft
23:07.05Striderchoose e17
23:07.10_hugo_yes
23:07.16Striderleft bottom
23:07.29Striderentangle
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23:07.49_hugo_ah =)
23:07.54gnaunitedSo, Strider, how would I go about doing that?
23:07.57_hugo_no, it's not there
23:08.10Striderok that is why not on your panel
23:08.25Striderscroll down the left list
23:08.28Stridericons
23:08.35Striderlook for mplayer
23:08.43Striderthen drag and drop
23:08.44_hugo_yep
23:08.47_hugo_understand =)
23:08.50_hugo_thanks
23:08.54Stridernp
23:09.05Stridergnaunited, doing what?
23:09.10gnaunitedAdding the bootsplash
23:09.21Strideryou in 16 or 17?
23:09.26gnaunited16
23:09.53StriderI dont run 16 anymore so I have forgotten   why do you want the bootsplash?
23:10.16Striderjust for looks?
23:10.19gnaunitedCause it looks better. Plus I don't care what it says when it boots
23:10.24Striderok
23:10.31Striderlet me see if I can remember
23:10.47StriderIll be right back
23:11.17gnaunitedMy next question is about adding themes... I have tried the personal set up using ~/.enlightenment/themes, but that does not seem to be working. Either that or I am kind of slow.
23:11.41_hugo_ah, there it is =)
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23:14.34Stridergnaunited, e16 doesnt have a splashscreen   only 17 does    I'm pretty sure
23:15.02gnaunitedok - i wasn't sure because the live cd version has it, but it is gone with the hd install
23:15.23_hugo_Strider, wtf do I do with my icon for evolution once Gimp open when i choose it as an icon? :)
23:15.27Striderthere may be a way to reinable it...I dont know
23:15.47_hugo_og
23:15.52_hugo_press okay instead of doubleclick
23:16.09Strider_hugo_, you will have to remake a icon for evolution most likely
23:16.24Stridereasy to do
23:16.27_hugo_Strider, nah.. I downloaded the gnant-icontheme :P
23:16.27gnaunitedAny tips for installing themes in elive?
23:16.36_hugo_gnaunited, apt-get install e17-theme*
23:16.40_hugo_or e16 :P
23:16.43Stridergnaunited, use synaptic
23:16.59gnaunitedok
23:17.35Stridergnaunited, you dont want e17 theme for 16...only do 16
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23:18.53gnaunitedNo such package
23:18.57_hugo_I love this!
23:19.10Stridergnaunited, themes as keyword
23:19.17Strideror theme
23:19.21Strideror e16
23:19.58_hugo_Strider, how do i add mozilla-firefox as my default webbrowser for opening links?
23:20.52Stridergnaunited, use e16 as key search      you have 4 themes ther
23:21.29Strider_hugo_, which filemanager are u using?
23:21.36_hugo_default
23:21.40Striderno...
23:21.46_hugo_I hardly ever use the filemanager :P
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23:21.50Striderit is a demo....
23:22.00kjellvizoyh
23:22.01gnaunitedWhere is apt installing these themes to?
23:22.09_hugo_Strider, wut?
23:22.20kjellvizgot a elpanel hanging on my screen
23:22.26kjellviznonresponsive
23:23.00Striderevidence is very hard to configure to do things your way....switch to rox or konqueror
23:23.37_hugo_kjellviz, rightclick and kill =)
23:23.43Striderevidence is nice for little things...but opening stuff it does it one way
23:23.50kjellvizwell nonresponsive
23:23.58_hugo_Strider, but i hardly ever use a filemanager...
23:23.58kjellviz= doesent respond on rightclikk
23:24.00kjellvizlol
23:24.09_hugo_kjellviz, try to alt-rightclick :P
23:24.10kjellvizrightclick*
23:24.23kjellviznice tnx !
23:24.25Striderkj control -alt backspace    
23:24.44_hugo_Strider, my question was how do i add mozilla-firefox as my  default webbrowser :P
23:24.45kjellvizthat fixed it... (alt - rightclick)
23:24.52_hugo_no need to restart x :S
23:25.08Striderset in mozilla preferences
23:25.44_hugo_hm
23:25.46_hugo_you sure?
23:25.50StriderI thought you were asking how to make it the default in the filemanager
23:26.01Strideryes...
23:26.22Striderin elive there really isn't a defualt anything
23:26.40Strideryou set the default manually  
23:26.53Stridernot like kde
23:27.04_hugo_can't find it
23:27.59kjellvizmy ibox keeps disappearing =S
23:30.02Strider_hugo_, why?   there is no default in firefox on mozilla vanilla
23:30.03Strider*only
23:30.03_hugo_Strider, cause when I click links I want them to automaticly load in firefox!
23:30.05Striderclick links where?
23:30.05_hugo_irc, gaim
23:30.05kjellvizgaim for instance
23:30.06Striderin firefox?
23:30.07_hugo_there you go =)
23:30.10Stridergaim gives the choice
23:30.18Striderxchat gives the choice
23:30.18_hugo_hmpf
23:30.36_hugo_Strider, yeh.. but you have to rightclick like a maniac to open the link with firefox
23:30.38Striderno default in elive...
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23:31.00Striderno trashbin in elive either
23:31.07Striderno filemanager in elive
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23:31.47Striderno GLOBAL default
23:32.04Striderfor all programs
23:32.45Striderelive    not newbie safe...  LOL
23:33.17_hugo_and still you tell everyone to use GUI for EVERYTHING :P
23:33.21Strider<---many wounds from wild elive
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23:33.30Stridernot me...
23:33.58StriderI never said that...  go get mandrake if that is what you need
23:34.36Striderbut, you will get wounds from Mandrake too I guarantee
23:34.39sinplomo<Strider> no filemanager in elive <= evidence ? efm ? xfe ? mc ?
23:35.10Striderahhh  enlightenment has no "native" filemanager    
23:35.16kjellvizmc = ultimate commander
23:35.28kjellvizaccept no substitute
23:35.28_hugo_mc = midnight commander :D
23:35.32Striderelive can use any
23:35.42_hugo_Strider, any distro can use any, lol
23:35.45Striderjust the default is very unstable
23:35.54sinplomo<Strider> no trashbin in elive either <= why not Internet Explorer with wine ? and a icon with "My Computer"
23:35.58sinplomo¬¬'
23:36.02_hugo_Strider, you said nothing in elive is default
23:36.17_hugo_now you say evidence is default filemanager :P
23:36.32Striderit is not the global default
23:36.38Striderglobal
23:36.42Striderkey work
23:36.45Strider*word
23:37.05kjellviz^^
23:37.11Strideryou want one thing to open everything...not likely
23:37.21sinplomoStrider, what do you need ?
23:37.41_hugo_sinplomo, I need firefox to open links i click by default
23:37.53ThanatermesisStrider the Trash thing is a file-manager related thing, no a thing for the windowmanager
23:37.58_hugo_so that I dont have to right click and choose to open in firefox everytime I open a link
23:38.15StriderThanatermesis, I know...I was explaining to noobs
23:38.15sinplomo_hugo_, use windows !!
23:38.25Stridersee hugo?
23:38.32Strideryou dont believe me
23:38.37gnaunitedThana - theme installation directory?
23:38.41_hugo_lol
23:38.43sinplomoStrider, noobs ?
23:38.44_hugo_.e/e/themes
23:38.49_hugo_gnaunited,
23:38.52Stridernot you
23:38.55sinplomowhich noobs ?
23:39.05Stridersinplomo, not you I been here an hour....
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23:39.07sinplomowe are all eternal newbie ... don't forget that ...
23:39.12sinplomonever !
23:39.23_hugo_lol.. I'm a newbie because i want to open links in firefox by default :P
23:39.51sinplomo_hugo_, no, eres un newbie porque eres un tocapelotas
23:40.32kjellvizman u guys flaming him hard for asking a question !
23:40.35Striderlook I told you the truth and you were unbelieving,,,I'm just one noob trying to help others...If you don't give me respect(when in fact I know something) How can anyone help you?
23:40.47kjellvizhe just wants it easy to open a link from gaim
23:40.57_hugo_kjellviz, thank you :]
23:41.02StriderI wasn't flaming him...
23:41.15pycsspeaking of filemanagers, i think endeavour II, runs faster than xfe, :)
23:41.22StriderI explained patiently
23:41.31Striderpycs, that is what I use
23:41.41pycsyeah... :)
23:41.50kjellvizbut why are we talking filemanagers with him ?
23:41.58_hugo_word
23:42.17kjellvizis it possible to make it so that when u click a link in gaim
23:42.22kjellvizit opens in firefox
23:42.26kjellvizevery time ?
23:42.28gnaunitedQUESTION! I have a tar.gz enlightenment DR16 theme. Where do I put it so it shows up in my themes menu?
23:42.33_hugo_kjellviz, supposedly not :P
23:42.42_hugo_gnaunited, tar xvjf file.tar.gz
23:42.55gnauniteddoes it need to have it's own folder?
23:43.04sinplomo_hugo_, no .. xvzf
23:43.11_hugo_gnaunited, extract and copy to .e/e/themes
23:43.44_hugo_lol... xvjf for bz2, yes :P
23:43.49_hugo_my bad
23:43.51Thanatermesisgnaunited decompress in a dir and put this dir on your $HOME/.e16/themes
23:44.07Thanatermesis_hugo_ e16 ;)
23:44.37kjellvizhumm, how can i stop progs from minimizing to icon on engage, and minimize to ibox instead ?
23:45.01Strider_hugo_, why not ask thanatermesis your "defualt" question...
23:45.33_hugo_Thanatermesis, oh :)
23:45.50kjellvizor better, can i stop progs from covering the engage on maximising, and set it always on top ?
23:45.51kjellviz=P
23:45.58_hugo_Thanatermesis, how do i open links i click in gaim/xchat in firefox by default?
23:46.12_hugo_so that i don't have to rightclick and manually choose browser
23:46.17Thanatermesis<Strider> _hugo_, why not ask thanatermesis your "defualt" question...
23:46.19ThanatermesisNONONONONONONO
23:46.22Thanatermesisim very busy ;)
23:46.29Thanatermesisi have a LOT of work of make
23:46.33_hugo_Thanatermesis, tell me quickly if it's possible :D
23:46.51Thanatermesisif i pass all my time answering things on the channel... who release 0.5 ? ;)
23:47.20Strider+B)  
23:47.24Striderapt beer
23:47.25apt[beer] not just for breakfast anymore
23:47.39_hugo_no haste in releasing 0.5.. just got my 0.4 up and running almost perfectly :)
23:47.57Thanatermesis_hugo_ im not sure to its posible... you have the selections, maybe trying to configure xchat/gaim... if you found this config tell me and i add this for default on Elive
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23:48.15Strider_hugo_,  see?
23:48.20_hugo_Strider, stfu, please
23:48.23Thanatermesis_hugo_ i think to 0.5 is really more perfect than 0.4 ;)
23:48.36_hugo_atleast Thanatermesis gave me a good and understandable answer
23:48.47Striderstfu? I was trying to help  you are an arrogant ass
23:48.52_hugo_Thanatermesis, well, you better get some work done then :)
23:49.25kjellvizlol hugos a arrogant ass ?
23:49.29kjellvizroflmao
23:49.47StriderI take my time to help and he says "stfu" to me
23:50.05_hugo_Strider, you didn't help.. you told me it wasn't possible
23:50.11kjellvizwell noone likes a "you see ? i was right and you were wrong"
23:50.24Striderhe was rude from the start
23:50.27_hugo_Thanatermesis, told me how to maybe get it done
23:50.35StriderI said the same thing
23:50.42Thanatermesis(...)
23:50.43pycswohhh whats happening here, can't we all jus get along?
23:50.43Striderscroll up
23:51.15Striderevery program will need configuring....
23:51.54Thanatermesis_hugo_ if you don't know a minimum of linux/computers and related things i don't think to this is world...
23:52.02Striderkjellviz, I took like 20 minutes answering your qs!!!
23:52.03Thanatermesiswe can't posible to answer you all the things of you need
23:52.09Striderand you rebuke me too?
23:52.14kjellvizno i dont
23:52.37Thanatermesisfor example "how i write in CASE ?" or "how i change mi nick by default on xchat"...
23:52.38kjellvizi just say its not very nice to get that "you see" thrown at u
23:52.44kjellvizwhen u ask for help
23:52.54Striderkjellviz, I thought I helped you...he was asking over and over
23:52.55kjellvizand only get answers that confuse u more
23:53.04Stridernot cool, in an irc
23:53.06kjellvizu helped me a lot
23:53.09kjellviz=)
23:53.24Striderdont do the same thing in #e or they boot
23:53.25kjellvizand im grateful for that
23:53.52Thanatermesiskjellviz yesterday has enter one person to i have needed to speak bad with he... because i don't understand how is posible to has this stupid mind... i don't know if this persons want's really help or just war/flam
23:53.58Striderkjellviz, he wouldnt stop with the same question
23:54.39_hugo_Strider, cause i wasn't happy with the answer you gave me :P
23:54.43kjellvizThanatermesis, i dont understand your sentence m8... sry
23:54.53_hugo_Thanatermesis, on the other hand gave me a proper answer
23:54.57kjellvizStrider, i understood his question
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23:55.07kjellvizbut i dint either understand your answer
23:55.29Striderkjellviz, so did I...and I answered him over and over with the right answer
23:55.36kjellvizit was a failure of communication
23:55.38kjellviznow let
23:55.40kjellvizs
23:55.46_hugo_just let it go, lol :P
23:55.46kjellvizlet go of it and shake hands
23:55.53_hugo_I'm working on a soulution now :P
23:55.58_hugo_solution, even
23:56.05kjellvizit wasent nice of hugo 2 say stfu either
23:56.24kjellvizbut i understand his situation as much as yours
23:56.26kjellviz=)
23:56.26_hugo_sry 'bout that
23:56.43Striderok...np
23:56.55Thanatermesis<_hugo_> Thanatermesis, on the other hand gave me a proper answer
23:57.01Thanatermesisi have give you a correct answer before
23:57.02_hugo_stfu on irc ins't something to be taken so heavily :)
23:57.12_hugo_Thanatermesis, must be days ago =)
23:57.18pycselive has an unwritten rule i think, get some help with paitience or do it yourself...
23:57.23kjellvizgn
23:57.27kjellvizThanatermesis,
23:57.29_hugo_night
23:57.35kjellvizlol wrong buttons
23:57.51kjellvizThanatermesis, i dint understand your "post" about me
23:57.56roxvilleapt hug everybody
23:57.57aptACTION hugs everybody
23:58.01SteveMyersrox
23:58.09SteveMyersit didn't work m8 :-/
23:58.09_hugo_roxville :]
23:58.17roxville:)
23:58.22kjellvizwhat i read was that i was here yesterday making a mess and being unpleasent
23:58.26kjellviz????
23:58.40SteveMyersI ran nautilus from command, and it brough the window up for gnome, but no gnome-panel or anything
23:58.51SteveMyersto roxville ^^
23:58.57roxvillei got a gig tonight too, so... i gotta get ready... shit, shave and shower... :)
23:59.02sinplomo<pycs> elive has an unwritten rule i think, get some help with paitience or do it yourself... <= ask google first !!
23:59.30roxvillekjellviz, no not, at all.... that's not what he meant
23:59.48pycsyeah, ask google, that too :)
23:59.58roxvilleand... take the time to understand thana... maybe ask him again what he meant...

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