| 00:00.01 | reliver | are you a linux pro ? |
| 00:00.47 | sHR00m | ich bin kein professioneller linuxer wenn du das meinst, ich nutze es aber sehr gern |
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| 00:02.48 | sHR00m | ah i can help you with synaptic |
| 00:03.55 | sHR00m | reliver, go as root with an editor, maybe nano in this file /etc/sudoers |
| 00:04.09 | sHR00m | write under root your default user |
| 00:04.29 | sHR00m | and add the rest of the root line to it |
| 00:04.51 | sHR00m | save it and you can get into synaptic with sudo synaptic |
| 00:04.57 | sHR00m | and the password of your default user |
| 00:05.36 | yiyus | i have to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo |
| 00:05.41 | sHR00m | (as normal user) |
| 00:05.43 | reliver | that is interesting. |
| 00:05.58 | reliver | thanatermesis guided me to edit that file today. |
| 00:06.17 | reliver | his instruction was slightly different, was it bad ? |
| 00:06.24 | sHR00m | nono |
| 00:06.31 | sHR00m | surely not, but the file was broken here, too |
| 00:06.36 | sHR00m | and i hotfixed it |
| 00:06.42 | sHR00m | what was your change? |
| 00:06.49 | reliver | username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 00:08.09 | sHR00m | i cant say the exactly difference, but if you dont have to give your password, its insecure |
| 00:08.20 | sHR00m | cause every hacker on your box can start root commands |
| 00:08.52 | sHR00m | if you started sudo allready it wants the password once in 15 minutes or so, thats why i cant test it |
| 00:09.53 | reliver | the thing about all 15 minutes i don't understand. |
| 00:10.24 | sHR00m | naja sudo will am anfang dein passwort normal haben. |
| 00:10.36 | reliver | ja |
| 00:10.48 | sHR00m | klappte das, kann man innerhalb einer frist, z.b. 15 minuten per default erneut sudo befehle ausführen ohne passwort |
| 00:11.00 | reliver | ah, sure, yes. |
| 00:11.02 | sHR00m | daher weiss ich nun nicht ob deine config kein passwort vorraussetzt, das wäre schlecht |
| 00:11.19 | reliver | so your sudoer line looks how exactly ? |
| 00:11.44 | reliver | right, i currently do not need to supply a password. |
| 00:12.16 | sHR00m | i look into the manpage.. could be bad to give the root rights 1:1 to a user |
| 00:13.54 | sHR00m | ALL = ALL |
| 00:14.02 | sHR00m | is to run everything, but with password |
| 00:14.46 | sHR00m | mr reliver |
| 00:14.50 | sHR00m | :) |
| 00:15.01 | reliver | if your sudoers file is working, let's copy the line from yours exactly |
| 00:16.53 | sHR00m | well my line is shr00m ALL=ALL |
| 00:17.10 | sHR00m | and it seems to work. laut docs wird da auch ein pwd verlangt, anfangs |
| 00:17.19 | sHR00m | und klar, visudo nehmen |
| 00:17.24 | reliver | ah, i will try myusername ALL=ALL then. |
| 00:17.28 | sHR00m | obwohl mir der grund nicht klar ist |
| 00:17.33 | sHR00m | yes :) |
| 00:18.44 | reliver | do i have to restart anything ? |
| 00:19.11 | sHR00m | no, it works |
| 00:19.29 | sHR00m | would it be a daemon he had to need restarted or refreshed |
| 00:19.34 | reliver | still same error |
| 00:19.45 | sHR00m | cant open display? |
| 00:19.50 | reliver | what is the line you have for root in sudoers ? |
| 00:19.56 | reliver | yes. |
| 00:20.04 | sHR00m | root cant execute it. you must user your local user |
| 00:20.15 | sHR00m | if root should execute it, he must run the xserver |
| 00:20.24 | reliver | ah |
| 00:20.56 | yiyus | reliver, cant you just set the DISPLAY env var? |
| 00:21.02 | reliver | as user, calling synaptic says: command not found |
| 00:21.22 | sHR00m | yiyus, yes that would work too, but how to make it static? i dont remember |
| 00:21.35 | reliver | yiyus, i am a simple user, why would i do that ? |
| 00:21.56 | yiyus | reliver, as root: export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 00:22.13 | sHR00m | that only works at this runtime |
| 00:22.25 | yiyus | now the distros bring this things preconfigured, so i dont remember how i did it years ago... |
| 00:22.47 | sHR00m | reliver, i know a normal user dont find synaptic, but if i type sudo synaptic it works |
| 00:22.57 | reliver | ah. |
| 00:23.25 | yiyus | you could add a export .... before x is launched |
| 00:23.25 | reliver | great, thanks. |
| 00:23.50 | yiyus | or even in /etc/bashrc if your going to launch it from a bash shell |
| 00:23.54 | sHR00m | yiyus, theres a file in which the variable is set, but which.. |
| 00:24.53 | yiyus | sHR00m, i cant remember the right place to put it, but it should work adding the line to /root/.bashrc for example |
| 00:25.36 | reliver | what did you install for your wallpaper, shr00m ? |
| 00:27.09 | sHR00m | reliver, well i use themes actually. got from apt-get |
| 00:28.00 | reliver | what package ? |
| 00:28.52 | sHR00m | if you search for themes, with apt-cache search themes or with synaptic, you should easily find them |
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| 00:29.55 | egrub | Thanatermesis: http://www.gulbac.com.ar/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=25&func=view&id=401&catid=6 |
| 00:29.57 | egrub | xD |
| 00:35.58 | reliver | is it complicated to change just the wallpaper ? |
| 00:36.36 | sHR00m | no it isnt but there are much different looks with the themes |
| 00:37.06 | reliver | can i use a picture i have for the wallpaper, shr00m ? |
| 00:37.22 | sHR00m | you can just set the background with e17setroot |
| 00:37.46 | reliver | oh, i was using e16, is it more complicated then ? |
| 00:37.57 | sHR00m | no but there are little differences |
| 00:38.20 | sHR00m | e17 uses a binary file format for links and backgroundpics, icons and such |
| 00:38.32 | sHR00m | so it doesnt has to decompress it |
| 00:38.45 | sHR00m | e17setroot makes out of your old file such an edj file |
| 00:38.53 | sHR00m | and sets it |
| 00:39.11 | reliver | i read about this, i see. |
| 00:39.39 | reliver | but on e16 thana is using common png files, i think. |
| 00:41.20 | sHR00m | its easy. e17setroot -s file.png |
| 00:41.36 | sHR00m | then the file is converted and putted in .e/e/backgrounds |
| 00:42.19 | reliver | is this how i can change wallpapers on e16 too ? |
| 00:43.08 | sHR00m | is has e16setroot, dont know if it works exactly like this |
| 00:43.11 | sHR00m | it |
| 00:43.26 | sHR00m | no... |
| 00:43.28 | sHR00m | hm |
| 00:44.24 | sHR00m | i dont know, sorry ;) use only e17. Thanatermesis is using e16 |
| 00:45.01 | reliver | yes, because it gives less crashes. |
| 00:45.17 | reliver | this is why i used it too. |
| 00:46.31 | yiyus | reliver, 17 is stable enough now, since i run e17, it crashed only once (and the bug is solved now) |
| 00:47.24 | reliver | ok, logout for me then. |
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| 00:55.20 | Elive_user | still there, yiyus and shr00m ? |
| 00:55.26 | sHR00m | yes i am |
| 00:55.30 | yiyus | are you reliver? |
| 00:55.47 | Elive_user | great, i am in e17 now, yes yiyus. |
| 00:56.02 | yiyus | did it crash? |
| 00:56.02 | yiyus | hehe |
| 00:56.14 | Elive_user | no, i switched to e17. |
| 00:56.22 | sHR00m | fine |
| 00:56.26 | Elive_user | but i am a bit lost without task bar. |
| 00:56.54 | Elive_user | and the button for smaller window does not work in xchat. |
| 00:57.12 | Elive_user | and i can not even resize it manually. |
| 00:57.21 | sHR00m | hmm.. i can |
| 00:57.47 | Elive_user | i go to the lower right corner, but there is nothing there and i can not grab it. |
| 00:58.07 | sHR00m | strange.. |
| 00:58.16 | yiyus | are you sure? there no different cursor pointers but you should can change it |
| 00:58.33 | Elive_user | nothing. |
| 00:58.50 | Elive_user | what happens if i minimise it, where can i find it afterwards ? |
| 00:59.09 | yiyus | with middle mouse button |
| 00:59.36 | yiyus | if your going to use e17 u should (must) read the guide in get-e.org |
| 00:59.39 | Elive_user | oh, forgot about that discussion from yesterday. i have no middle mouse button. |
| 00:59.49 | sHR00m | hrhr |
| 01:00.05 | sHR00m | then you can see them with a leftclick |
| 01:00.06 | yiyus | do you have 2 buttons? |
| 01:00.19 | Elive_user | i am just trying to change my wallpaper :-) ... |
| 01:00.26 | sHR00m | leftclick/windows or fenster, je nach sprache |
| 01:00.26 | Elive_user | yes. |
| 01:00.41 | sHR00m | relive, youre right |
| 01:00.45 | sHR00m | stay with e16 |
| 01:00.52 | sHR00m | and ask Thanatermesis tomorrow how changing it |
| 01:01.05 | Elive_user | :-) |
| 01:01.10 | yiyus | you can set the x configuration to emulate the 3rd button clicking the other 2 at the same time |
| 01:01.25 | sHR00m | e17 is currently not 100% user friendly with all things that a user have to do |
| 01:01.28 | Thanatermesis | right button in the wallpaper |
| 01:01.40 | Thanatermesis | this is all configurations of e16 |
| 01:01.47 | Thanatermesis | select for the background configuration |
| 01:02.02 | sHR00m | yiyus, yes but this sucks.. tried it. you go crazy instead of a middle button |
| 01:02.07 | Elive_user | ah, hello thanatermesis |
| 01:02.25 | Thanatermesis | hello Elive_user |
| 01:02.36 | Elive_user | i am reliver, brb |
| 01:02.52 | yiyus | yes sHR00m, i know, i know... |
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| 01:03.23 | sHR00m | copy n paste :) |
| 01:03.40 | sHR00m | hi reliver |
| 01:04.02 | yiyus | mostly, sHR00m |
| 01:04.09 | reliver | hi shr00m :-) |
| 01:04.39 | reliver | it's like a high-tech version of hide and seek, right ? :-) |
| 01:05.13 | sHR00m | sorry ich versteh dich nicht ;) |
| 01:05.45 | reliver | ein modernes versteckspiel ... :) |
| 01:06.03 | reliver | what was thanatermesis saying for how to change the desktop ? |
| 01:07.40 | reliver | shr00m did you understand what he was saying for how to change the wallpaper ? |
| 01:08.23 | sHR00m | rechtsklick auf den hintergrund und file aussuchen oder? :) |
| 01:10.27 | reliver | i right-click on the desktop, get a list of things, choose desktop background settings, but do not see how to choose a picture except the 4 he provides. |
| 01:10.44 | reliver | and those are military grey-olive, all. |
| 01:11.16 | sHR00m | put your file in homedir/.e16/backgrounds |
| 01:11.47 | sHR00m | maybe it isnt the fine way but it works |
| 01:14.14 | reliver | i did that now, shr00m. |
| 01:14.24 | reliver | it is a jpg, is that good enough ? |
| 01:14.36 | sHR00m | cant say exactly but should |
| 01:16.38 | reliver | then i go into desktop background setting, and my picture is not there. |
| 01:16.52 | sHR00m | i would say restart e16 |
| 01:17.08 | sHR00m | but i can only suggest |
| 01:18.52 | reliver | trying, thanks shr00m |
| 01:19.47 | reliver | you are right, shr00m, thank you :-) |
| 01:19.59 | reliver | i just had to reload enlightenment. |
| 01:20.06 | sHR00m | np, maybe theres also a way to refresh it within |
| 01:20.39 | reliver | yes, it is the second last option in the left-click desktop menu. |
| 01:20.46 | sHR00m | i see |
| 01:21.33 | reliver | do you use xfe, shr00m ? |
| 01:21.51 | reliver | the fast file manager ? |
| 01:22.03 | sHR00m | xfce? no but its indeed really fast |
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| 01:22.11 | sHR00m | but fastest is e16, as far i know :) |
| 01:22.48 | reliver | no uh ... |
| 01:23.00 | reliver | do you use evidence ? |
| 01:23.10 | reliver | the file manager, you know. |
| 01:24.09 | sHR00m | yes but it is under developement and part of e17, if it doesnt work, its far from finished |
| 01:24.32 | sHR00m | on this box i dont use it, its simply too slow for it. but looks good :) |
| 01:24.53 | sHR00m | what does no uh mean? |
| 01:24.56 | sHR00m | ;) |
| 01:25.07 | reliver | yes, there is another file manager on e17, fast file manager, how is it called ? |
| 01:28.00 | sHR00m | no the e17 filemanager is evidence. maybe e16 uses it on elive, too |
| 01:28.02 | sHR00m | dunno |
| 01:28.19 | sHR00m | or maybe there are 2 evidences.. but i dont think so |
| 01:28.27 | reliver | look in the menu, please, under utils. |
| 01:28.40 | yiyus | evidence is fast, slow just the first time, but faster when it builds its caches |
| 01:29.04 | sHR00m | yiyus, well i use an p2, glad that e17 runs almost smooth without shaders ;) |
| 01:29.44 | yiyus | hey, i told it was fast, not it was fast in a 7 years machine! |
| 01:30.23 | sHR00m | hehe |
| 01:30.24 | sHR00m | yes |
| 01:30.36 | yiyus | did you know sHR00m now we have several ghz machines? |
| 01:30.37 | yiyus | XD |
| 01:31.01 | sHR00m | yes but i sold mine, cause i want an athlon 64 notebook |
| 01:31.29 | yiyus | uh, you are going to notice a big change! |
| 01:31.39 | sHR00m | i know :P |
| 01:32.00 | sHR00m | on my athlon e17 (and almost everything on it) had run great |
| 01:32.42 | sHR00m | it will be very nice with morphing background or something :) |
| 01:43.29 | eshep | yiyus, did your plugin work? |
| 01:43.55 | reliver | sleep well all |
| 01:44.00 | yiyus | at least it compiles |
| 01:44.19 | yiyus | but well need some more work (i went to cinema today :P ) |
| 01:44.26 | sHR00m | reliver, i will, thanks. cya :) |
| 01:44.39 | reliver | cya shr00m |
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| 03:13.03 | Elive_user | I "accidentally" deleted the default mplayer application, and can no longer see video on mozilla. |
| 03:13.30 | Elive_user | How do I get back the default mplayer app, because the elive version in synaptic doesn't work |
| 03:13.52 | Thanatermesis | upgrade your ".e" dir |
| 03:14.02 | Thanatermesis | this contains icons and e17 theme and all environment |
| 03:14.14 | Thanatermesis | "elive-skel upgrade" (select .e) |
| 03:14.35 | Elive_user | do i need to be root |
| 03:14.41 | Thanatermesis | or better, upgrade first your "elive-skel" package for have the news icons in better work ;) |
| 03:14.41 | Elive_user | ? |
| 03:14.51 | Thanatermesis | no, user for upgrade your user conf |
| 03:16.58 | Elive_user | Okay. Now all of the themes that I had loaded are gone. What now? |
| 03:18.05 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es Okay. Now all of the themes that I had loaded are gone. What now? |
| 03:18.23 | Thanatermesis | not look the themes of e17 installed ? |
| 03:19.06 | Elive_user | Do I need to recopy the e17 themes back from usr/share... to ~/.e/e/...? |
| 03:19.20 | Thanatermesis | no no |
| 03:19.30 | Thanatermesis | with this, you only upgrade your user conf |
| 03:19.37 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh |
| 03:19.46 | Thanatermesis | but are posible to need to copy |
| 03:19.52 | Thanatermesis | the theme, yes, posible |
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| 03:21.13 | Elive_user | okay -- i think i have it now |
| 03:23.14 | matt-_ | when booting from an elive 0.3 cd, I get an error saying "Can't find ELIVE filesystem" ... "Make sure you have a Morphix Base image on your CD/HDD/Net devices". |
| 03:23.49 | Thanatermesis | matt-_ you using a firewire or usb device ? |
| 03:24.00 | matt-_ | for what? |
| 03:24.08 | Thanatermesis | for boot the cd |
| 03:24.16 | Thanatermesis | the cd are booted from a normal device ? |
| 03:24.18 | matt-_ | no, i just have a cd on which i burned the image |
| 03:24.32 | Thanatermesis | its posible to you have bad image downloaded... |
| 03:24.37 | Thanatermesis | you have verified the md5 ? |
| 03:24.48 | matt-_ | i'll check again |
| 03:25.37 | Thanatermesis | or use a CDRW ? a old cdrom device or bad read ?... |
| 03:26.02 | matt-_ | yeah, the md5 is correct |
| 03:26.29 | Thanatermesis | try with "qemu -cdrom file.iso" |
| 03:27.04 | Elive_user | Which version of mplayer works best with elive? |
| 03:28.18 | Elive_user | i tried the one in the elive section of synaptic, and it doesn't work properly |
| 03:29.39 | roxville | i have mplayer-386 installed |
| 03:29.47 | roxville | that's the obe elive comes with |
| 03:29.53 | Thanatermesis | oh, yes, I need to delete the "mplayer" package... |
| 03:30.00 | Thanatermesis | the better are "mplayer-386", yes |
| 03:30.09 | Thanatermesis | "mplayer" its the "plan B" :) |
| 03:30.14 | roxville | :) |
| 03:30.36 | roxville | always have a backup, thana, always have a backup... |
| 03:30.37 | Thanatermesis | Deleting files no longer referenced... |
| 03:30.37 | Thanatermesis | deleting and forgetting pool/main/m/mplayer/mplayer_1.0pre7elive3_i386.deb |
| 03:30.39 | Thanatermesis | deleted :) |
| 03:31.13 | roxville | how are you doing, Thanatermesis ? |
| 03:31.29 | roxville | you seem to be in a good mood |
| 03:32.04 | Thanatermesis | its, Im this days with my gf :) |
| 03:32.18 | Elive_user | okay -- this is the error i get when i try to install mplayer-386 |
| 03:32.22 | Elive_user | mplayer-386: |
| 03:32.23 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.23 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.30 | Elive_user | any clues? |
| 03:32.32 | roxville | there ya go! i knew it, you looked different somehow... lol |
| 03:32.57 | Thanatermesis | but not really good... a lot of persons only speak "I want, I need, you need to make... " ah... im tired of this persons... really |
| 03:33.04 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user first, apt-get remove mplayer |
| 03:33.27 | Thanatermesis | roxville read this, this is one example: http://edevelop.org/node/1537 |
| 03:34.18 | roxville | yeah, i just read that one, actually! |
| 03:34.43 | roxville | and of course, you want to please everybody...it's tough, man! |
| 03:35.29 | Elive_user | Okay -- I tried, but it says "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open.... |
| 03:35.40 | Elive_user | Thanks for all of the help also.. |
| 03:35.54 | roxville | maybe you can get some ppl to help in certain areas.. like eshep is helping yiyus with a grub theme |
| 03:37.42 | roxville | Elive_user, it's not as bad as it looks, elive 0.3 has been out a little more than 2 weeks now, and Thanatermesis just had his first break |
| 03:37.59 | roxville | he's about to catch his second wind |
| 03:38.28 | Elive_user | don't get me wrong -- i think elive is terrific. My problems are caused by my own mistakes! |
| 03:38.47 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, you have created a great debian live cd |
| 03:39.01 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user yes, you need to close any "apt/dpkg" process if you try another... close first the synaptic if you launch this command |
| 03:39.19 | roxville | he likes it when you scratch right under the chin too :) |
| 03:39.36 | Elive_user | i actually killed the application, but it still seems to find it. |
| 03:40.15 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 03:40.20 | Thanatermesis | killed? not simply close ? |
| 03:40.41 | Elive_user | No. It froze and the mouse cursor was spinning. |
| 03:40.47 | Thanatermesis | close synaptic and "apt-get -f install && apt-get remove mplayer && apt-get install mplayer-386" |
| 03:41.18 | Thanatermesis | ps -A | grep dpkg |
| 03:41.22 | Thanatermesis | ps -A | grep apt |
| 03:41.26 | Thanatermesis | kill any process |
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| 03:47.49 | Elive_user | I now get unmet dependency messages |
| 03:48.02 | Elive_user | For mplayer-386 |
| 03:48.05 | roxville | morphix seems to be down right now |
| 03:48.10 | roxville | hi felix! |
| 03:48.55 | felix | roxville: hello! |
| 03:48.56 | Elive_user | Itg expectgs to see libxvidcore4 and liavcodeccvcvs -- both of which are apparently missing |
| 03:50.11 | roxville | what's going on felix? how was the helado the other night? |
| 03:50.51 | roxville | Thanatermesis, sorry man, but i can't help this guy |
| 03:51.14 | roxville | or you say helato? |
| 03:51.20 | Thanatermesis | buenas felix ! |
| 03:51.25 | felix | roxville: the ice cream was great except that these night I felt ill |
| 03:51.34 | felix | roxville: I had fever until today |
| 03:51.36 | felix | Thanatermesis: hola! |
| 03:51.54 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user you have deinstalled mplayer package ? |
| 03:51.55 | roxville | damn! no wonder you never responded when i said hi! |
| 03:52.29 | Elive_user | Yes I have. I got a dependency error when I tried the long command you advised. |
| 03:52.34 | roxville | Thanatermesis, morphix seems to be down, i don't know if that has anything to do with it |
| 03:52.47 | roxville | and other mirrors too |
| 03:52.48 | Elive_user | I then reinstalled mplayer with a apt-get install mplayer. |
| 03:52.58 | Elive_user | It still seems a little flaky |
| 03:53.04 | Thanatermesis | rkx |
| 03:53.10 | roxville | you have to specify mpolayer-386 |
| 03:53.16 | Thanatermesis | roxville you have the morphix mirror added in your sources.list ? |
| 03:53.19 | roxville | or mplayer-386 |
| 03:53.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user apt-get install libxvidcore4 |
| 03:53.35 | roxville | it was there by default i think |
| 03:53.43 | Thanatermesis | what message of the problem ? |
| 03:54.15 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:55.06 | Thanatermesis | oh! |
| 03:55.12 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 03:55.14 | Thanatermesis | one second |
| 03:55.29 | *** part/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@S0106000f669157c7.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 03:56.05 | roxville | felix, it's great to have you back on your feet (or on your ass, coz you're probably sitting down) |
| 03:56.28 | roxville | your kid had the same thing? |
| 03:57.16 | Thanatermesis | give me a second Elive_user ... |
| 03:58.15 | Elive_user | ok -- it says that "Package libxvidcore4 has no installation candidate" |
| 03:58.52 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user try "apt-get update" and try also apt-get install mplayer-386 |
| 03:59.02 | felix | roxville: i guess so. |
| 03:59.09 | Elive_user | okay -- standby |
| 04:00.16 | Elive_user | still unmet dependencies |
| 04:00.29 | Thanatermesis | what dependencies ? |
| 04:01.00 | roxville | felix: i've been taking care of my daughter at home for so long now, that when she goes back to daycare...she's gonna be constantly sick for a while...fun! |
| 04:03.02 | felix | roxville: what's the meaning of "daycare"? |
| 04:03.50 | roxville | oh, a day care is... like a pre-school thing |
| 04:04.14 | roxville | they take kids age 0-5 |
| 04:04.38 | roxville | i think we need to start an elive parents channel lol |
| 04:06.47 | Elive_user | libavcodeccvs |
| 04:07.01 | roxville | should i remove my morphix repo from apt sources.list? |
| 04:07.33 | Elive_user | Libavcodeccvs <>=s:20050417-0.0 |
| 04:07.39 | roxville | Elive_user, you better type in thana's nick too |
| 04:07.51 | Elive_user | sorry |
| 04:07.56 | roxville | np :) |
| 04:08.30 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, the dependency is libavcodeccvs<>=2:20050417-0.0 |
| 04:08.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user ok, add this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list : |
| 04:09.09 | Thanatermesis | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 04:10.35 | felix | roxville: My son is constantly sick too (at least going to daycare) |
| 04:10.58 | felix | roxville: we had a nanny and he never was sick |
| 04:11.05 | felix | roxville: daycare == jardín de infantes |
| 04:11.18 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, is that a space before "etch main"? |
| 04:11.33 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 04:11.39 | Elive_user | okay |
| 04:13.55 | Elive_user | okay - finally done |
| 04:14.30 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, I ran apt-get update and it found the new repository |
| 04:14.39 | Elive_user | I will try loading mplayer-386 again |
| 04:15.17 | Elive_user | alright! it is working |
| 04:16.20 | roxville | yes felix, they get sick a lot in jardin des infantes, but that is also a good thing...some of the time |
| 04:17.10 | roxville | Thanatermesis, have you seen that gimp-hack that makes it look more like photoshop? |
| 04:17.19 | Elive_user | okay thanatermesis, where should i get plugin for firefox? |
| 04:17.48 | roxville | elive_user, what plugin are you looking for? |
| 04:17.59 | Elive_user | the mplayer plugin, sorry again. |
| 04:19.42 | Thanatermesis | roxville aparently the photoshop gui are bad.... in any case... gimp are good! :) |
| 04:19.55 | roxville | the repository gods are not on our side tonight lol |
| 04:20.00 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user apt-get install mozilla-mplayer |
| 04:20.42 | Elive_user | okay -- it says it can't find the package mozilla-player |
| 04:20.52 | roxville | yeah Thanatermesis i never got it to work..was just thinking it might be a "cool" thing to include... |
| 04:21.06 | Thanatermesis | boh... |
| 04:21.09 | Thanatermesis | not really important |
| 04:21.52 | roxville | i mean, another "cool" thing to include in an already totally "cool" distro :) |
| 04:22.12 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i mean, another "cool" thing to include in an already totally "cool" distro |
| 04:22.35 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes... a lot of work |
| 04:22.49 | roxville | yep |
| 04:23.19 | roxville | awesome that the ElPanel seems to be coming along! |
| 04:24.26 | roxville | Elive_user, it's mozilla-mplayer, not mozilla-player |
| 04:25.02 | Thanatermesis | but... the interface are in construction roxville :) |
| 04:25.47 | Elive_user | ahh... |
| 04:26.55 | roxville | that is awesome...i hope handyande and shadoi are helping you |
| 04:27.18 | roxville | or if you want the full creds for it, that's fine too :) |
| 04:30.59 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, still no luck -- i went to the bbc web site to watch their streaming news |
| 04:31.11 | Elive_user | I get a message that says it is buffering |
| 04:31.32 | Elive_user | It loads the mplayer plugin, but shows the url and a copyright notice from the British Broadcasting Corporation |
| 04:31.37 | Elive_user | That's it |
| 04:31.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user this this with your browser: http://elive.xasein.com/screenshots/video3.avi |
| 04:33.34 | Elive_user | ok -- this works fine -- and the sound is great too! |
| 04:33.41 | Elive_user | What program is this? |
| 04:36.12 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis -- what was the 3D file manager shown in the video? |
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| 04:37.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user "tdfsb" |
| 04:38.06 | Elive_user | Is it available on apt-get? |
| 04:38.15 | roxville | or "ggek file manager" in the menu |
| 04:38.22 | roxville | geek |
| 04:39.06 | roxville | in uyils |
| 04:39.11 | roxville | lkfsdjuhaldkrjh |
| 04:39.14 | roxville | utils |
| 04:39.18 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user you have this installed in your system (from my memory)= |
| 04:39.27 | Elive_user | Where is it? |
| 04:39.32 | Thanatermesis | e16 :) |
| 04:39.40 | Elive_user | Not in e17? |
| 04:39.40 | roxville | hello, i'm trying to tell you! |
| 04:39.53 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 04:39.54 | Elive_user | trying to tell me? |
| 04:39.59 | roxville | menu/utils/geek file manager |
| 04:40.10 | roxville | brb |
| 04:40.33 | Elive_user | well, its not in my menu utils |
| 04:40.46 | Elive_user | I am using elive 0.3 |
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| 04:42.48 | roxville | ok, jus type tdfsb in your terminal then |
| 04:43.06 | roxville | but good luck closing it, i haven't figured that out yet :) |
| 04:43.38 | jason | thanx |
| 04:44.48 | Elive_user | to close it press esc. |
| 04:45.11 | Elive_user | I figured out the tdsfb command by pressing a letter on the keyboard |
| 04:45.39 | Elive_user | Now -- why does mplayer work with that url Thanatermesis, but not on the BBC streaming video? |
| 04:47.45 | roxville | at least he said "thanx" lol |
| 04:48.07 | Elive_user | heh |
| 04:48.27 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user Im not work in bbc :) |
| 04:48.55 | Thanatermesis | I don't know how to works bbc stream |
| 04:49.01 | Elive_user | No problem. Before I deleted the original mplayer install (the default one), it used to work |
| 04:49.23 | roxville | ok, so it's a lib that you are missing |
| 04:49.32 | roxville | what about w32codecs? |
| 04:49.43 | Elive_user | which lib exactly? |
| 04:49.57 | roxville | apt-get install w32codecs |
| 04:50.23 | roxville | it was removed before, i saw it |
| 04:50.38 | roxville | when you uninstalled mplayer |
| 04:50.44 | Elive_user | ok it is downloading now |
| 04:50.59 | roxville | this |
| 04:51.31 | roxville | the try again :) bet ya $! it works |
| 04:51.40 | roxville | $1 |
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| 04:53.32 | Elive_user | okay -- i got the codecs, and it starts to work, but then blanks out with text and a copyright message where the video should be |
| 04:53.48 | Elive_user | are there any other codecs i should download |
| 04:54.06 | Thanatermesis_ | lol |
| 04:54.23 | roxville | libdvdcss2 , but that's for playing dvd's |
| 04:54.58 | roxville | sometimes a reboot and a walk in the park can really do the trick |
| 04:55.26 | roxville | brb |
| 04:55.35 | Elive_user | ok -- that did the trick. thanks |
| 05:00.34 | Elive_user | thanks roxville |
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| 05:04.30 | leopard | did essense all but vanish? |
| 05:04.34 | leopard | essence |
| 05:05.12 | roxville | hi leopard...the old 18 yr old |
| 05:05.44 | roxville | np Elive_user it all works now? even BBC? |
| 05:05.45 | leopard | 24 |
| 05:05.47 | leopard | :] |
| 05:05.58 | roxville | :) |
| 05:06.04 | Elive_user | it works great now -- including the bbc |
| 05:06.32 | roxville | ok, my daughter keeps waking up, so i gotta go to bed, see ya next time |
| 05:06.46 | roxville | Elive_user, i'm happy for you :) |
| 05:07.14 | Elive_user | now, if i can just stop Elive essence from freezing |
| 05:09.17 | leopard | Thanatermesis: props on a much anticipated project, not to mention well done :] |
| 05:09.43 | leopard | others too |
| 05:11.14 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es not to mention well done |
| 05:11.27 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 05:13.27 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, any idea how to unfreeze Elive essence |
| 05:13.51 | Thanatermesis | upgrade your conf and use the new "elive essence" conf |
| 05:14.18 | Thanatermesis | *for use* |
| 05:14.55 | Elive_user | i don't see that in the list -- which one should i use? |
| 05:15.49 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i don't see that in the list -- which one should i use? |
| 05:16.05 | Elive_user | huh? |
| 05:16.12 | Thanatermesis | any of the list |
| 05:16.30 | Elive_user | .e? |
| 05:16.36 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 05:16.42 | Thanatermesis | or .e16 |
| 05:17.16 | leopard | apt x en jp naruhodo ne |
| 05:17.25 | Elive_user | ok -- the kenwood audio player is frozen on the screen - won't move |
| 05:17.48 | Thanatermesis | apt x en jp hello, how are you ? |
| 05:18.32 | Thanatermesis | only with the kenwood Elive_user ? |
| 05:19.09 | leopard | apt x jp en totemo omoshiroi yo |
| 05:19.16 | leopard | hehehe |
| 05:20.19 | leopard | apt x jp en $B$H$F$b!!LLGr$$!!$h(B |
| 05:21.30 | leopard | apt x jp en $B$K$[$s$4$,$O$J$7$^$9$+!)(B |
| 05:21.38 | leopard | $B#p#f#f#t(B |
| 05:21.41 | leopard | hehe |
| 05:22.24 | leopard | im using sjis/jis.. it's converting too smoothly |
| 05:22.26 | leopard | :p |
| 05:22.40 | leopard | on my end, anyway |
| 05:22.49 | Elive_user | One last thing to anyone here -- any idea how to get elive to open in 1600x1200 resolution? |
| 05:23.48 | leopard | change your kernel's boot parms |
| 05:24.02 | leopard | er nm that's framebuffer |
| 05:24.16 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, how do you change resolution in elive? I seem to be limited to 1024x768 but my laptop can do 1600x1200 |
| 05:24.17 | elive-bot | Elive_user: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options |
| 05:24.37 | leopard | that, hehe |
| 05:24.54 | Elive_user | No. I am using 1024x768. That is the highest resolution available in the menu. |
| 05:24.55 | leopard | there're options showing examples on the livecd =^_^= |
| 05:25.03 | Elive_user | Where? |
| 05:25.04 | leopard | dont use the menu |
| 05:25.17 | Elive_user | r they transferred to the hard drive when you choose hard drive install? |
| 05:25.25 | Elive_user | Or, is there a file that i can edit? |
| 05:25.45 | leopard | there's a long string of parameters at the bottom of the screen that is exactly what the loader is booting |
| 05:26.00 | leopard | append your desires thus freely |
| 05:26.15 | Elive_user | any commands in the gui? |
| 05:26.52 | leopard | mm.. i think there's s a menu for extra boot parameters, but the res doesnt go up to 1600x1200 i dont believe |
| 05:27.29 | Elive_user | I don't see why it is limited. After all. Xorg exists in higher resolutions in other linux distributions |
| 05:27.39 | leopard | it's not limited |
| 05:27.44 | leopard | at all |
| 05:27.56 | leopard | you just need to learn how to work with linux |
| 05:27.58 | leopard | :] |
| 05:28.09 | Elive_user | thanks for the tip :) |
| 05:28.55 | leopard | people rely too much on automation |
| 05:28.59 | leopard | es no bueno |
| 05:29.03 | Elive_user | anyone have experience shifing the resolution |
| 05:29.22 | leopard | heh |
| 05:29.50 | leopard | ok check it out, man |
| 05:29.59 | Elive_user | what |
| 05:30.04 | Elive_user | ? |
| 05:30.43 | leopard | when you boot the livecd.. the little line with all the interesting linux stuff.. look for or append screen=1600x1200 and see if it works |
| 05:31.12 | Elive_user | Well, i already did the hardware install -- what file would i put the append screen line in ? |
| 05:31.22 | leopard | aah i see |
| 05:31.54 | Elive_user | email me the answer (if you would) at dmussington@gmail.com |
| 05:31.58 | Elive_user | I have to go. |
| 05:32.02 | Elive_user | See you tomorrow> |
| 05:32.03 | Elive_user | ? |
| 05:32.05 | Elive_user | D |
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| 06:38.44 | ThanaZzzz | 'night |
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| 07:03.17 | Elive_user | hi |
| 07:06.09 | jnymo | qie ennglish? |
| 07:06.16 | jnymo | gue, even |
| 07:06.28 | jnymo | que, rather, even morer |
| 07:06.40 | jnymo | I give up.. its late ;) |
| 07:06.54 | jnymo | elive kicks ass... |
| 07:06.58 | jnymo | night |
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| 08:50.24 | Elive_user | Tango |
| 08:51.35 | Elive_user | check one |
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| 08:53.43 | Elive_user | Hello_ |
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| 09:09.46 | cmak | whats the cmd to edit the menu/ibar? |
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| 09:27.22 | cmak | if i just could edit the contents of the menu and ibar i wouldnt leave e17 anymore |
| 09:27.29 | cmak | ... |
| 09:27.31 | cmak | :] |
| 09:29.21 | cmak | now the desktop switcher is confused ^^) |
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| 10:23.57 | eshep | hi yiyus |
| 10:46.30 | yiyus | hi |
| 10:46.46 | yiyus | i did that f*cking rotating cube! |
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| 11:37.43 | eshep | yiyus: which rotating cube? |
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| 12:07.16 | reliver | hello shr00m :-) |
| 12:07.26 | reliver | how do you do ? |
| 12:07.28 | sHR00m | hi reliver |
| 12:07.32 | sHR00m | tired |
| 12:07.42 | reliver | me too ... how come ? |
| 12:08.16 | sHR00m | dunno.. :P maybe the night was too long, hehe |
| 12:08.29 | reliver | my mattress is too hard. |
| 12:09.32 | reliver | how can i shutdown an app. |
| 12:09.39 | reliver | they tend to freeze here. |
| 12:09.42 | eshep | hey guys |
| 12:09.52 | reliver | hello eshep :) |
| 12:10.12 | reliver | eshep are you on e16 ? |
| 12:10.20 | eshep | reliver, try pkill |
| 12:10.35 | eshep | no i use e17 these days |
| 12:11.08 | reliver | ah. |
| 12:11.29 | reliver | is there a gui task manager ? |
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| 12:11.45 | eshep | give me a few minutes to put the kids in the bed, bbl |
| 12:11.53 | reliver | :) |
| 12:12.36 | reliver | shr00m do you use engage ? |
| 12:18.55 | sHR00m | i surely will but at this time i could do not much with it |
| 12:22.13 | sHR00m | what i want to do is coding c, using the new efl |
| 12:22.25 | sHR00m | building some mighty encoder or something =) |
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| 12:37.34 | eshep | reliver, whwt did you need to need to know about engage? |
| 12:38.12 | reliver | i miss something like ibox, if i understand it correctly. |
| 12:38.36 | reliver | a task bar where all open windows can be accessed, always. |
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| 12:38.52 | eshep | oh, thats what you mean |
| 12:39.15 | eshep | theres one in e16 & e17 |
| 12:39.27 | reliver | i remember, but where ? |
| 12:39.33 | yiyus | reliver, alt+tab and middle mouse button |
| 12:39.42 | yiyus | have you read the get-e.org guide? |
| 12:39.48 | eshep | that works too |
| 12:40.28 | reliver | an application switcher, great, thanks. |
| 12:40.34 | eshep | i wish the one in e17 gave little screenshots like the e16 one though |
| 12:41.23 | eshep | ...since the aim is eye candy... |
| 12:41.24 | reliver | i don't see screenshots there. |
| 12:41.38 | reliver | have no middle mouse button though. |
| 12:41.51 | reliver | why use the middle mouse button there ? |
| 12:42.08 | eshep | use both buttons at the same time, thats what i do on my laptop |
| 12:42.12 | yiyus | you can look for expose (dunno where you can download it) |
| 12:42.35 | eshep | apt expose |
| 12:42.52 | sHR00m | reliver, btw.. in e16 the middle button is also used this way. i think |
| 12:43.12 | reliver | how do you start mozilla-thunderbird so that the terminal where you start it becomes free for subsequent commands ? |
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| 12:43.38 | sHR00m | go to the ibar, klick on the burning globe ? :) |
| 12:43.44 | captainigloo | Hi |
| 12:44.07 | sHR00m | reliver, tool& |
| 12:44.09 | reliver | hi captainigloo :) |
| 12:44.09 | sHR00m | and an enter |
| 12:44.13 | sHR00m | makes your terminal free |
| 12:44.37 | sHR00m | then the tool runs in background and output is shown |
| 12:44.52 | eshep | hi captainigloo |
| 12:45.13 | reliver | it does not work with mozilla-thunderbird, shr00m |
| 12:46.17 | sHR00m | sudo apt-get install thunderbird |
| 12:46.20 | sHR00m | lets see :P |
| 12:48.08 | reliver | shr00m where is a burning globe ? |
| 12:48.42 | sHR00m | i thought you want use firefox. which is in the iconbar as a burning globe. never mind :) |
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| 12:49.15 | reliver | eshep apt expose gives command not found. |
| 12:49.23 | eshep | reliver, you need to type $mozilla-thunderbird & |
| 12:49.31 | sHR00m | reliver, yes it works.... start the thunderbird& |
| 12:49.46 | reliver | yes, eshep, but that does not give a prompt. |
| 12:49.52 | eshep | apt-get install expose |
| 12:50.03 | sHR00m | reliver, you have to push enter |
| 12:50.41 | eshep | there has to be a space between the command and the & |
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| 12:50.53 | reliver | i do start thunderbird like this: $mozilla-thunderbird & |
| 12:51.06 | eshep | god mornin roxville |
| 12:51.12 | reliver | but that does not give me a prompt, even after closing thunderbird again. |
| 12:51.18 | roxville | good evening eshep |
| 12:51.19 | sHR00m | no that is completely indifferent. space or not space |
| 12:51.19 | eshep | wierd |
| 12:51.47 | roxville | reliver, you still can't open thunderbird? |
| 12:51.53 | reliver | eshep expose is not in my sources. |
| 12:51.55 | eshep | reliver, do it via a one line script |
| 12:52.08 | reliver | i can, roxville, hi :-) |
| 12:52.16 | roxville | ok, good :) |
| 12:52.26 | sHR00m | roxville, i cant too.. but i dont use it. only wondering |
| 12:52.35 | sHR00m | good morning roxville, by the way :) |
| 12:53.02 | roxville | good afternoon sHR00m :) |
| 12:53.39 | roxville | well the executable is mozilla-thunderbird, that's all i had to do |
| 12:53.40 | roxville | brb |
| 12:54.27 | eshep | reliver, got it |
| 12:54.37 | sHR00m | gna.. i hate it when my harddisk is full |
| 12:54.38 | reliver | space or no space gives me exactly the same result, shr00m |
| 12:54.51 | eshep | do the $mozilla-thunderbird & |
| 12:55.05 | eshep | then just ctrl+c |
| 12:55.12 | eshep | viola prompt |
| 12:55.15 | sHR00m | reliver, thats what i say |
| 12:55.29 | sHR00m | reliver, but if you dont see a prompt type ENTER, maybe 2 times :P |
| 12:55.41 | reliver | great, eshep, you are right :-) |
| 12:55.50 | sHR00m | or this |
| 12:55.51 | reliver | voila :-) |
| 12:56.07 | eshep | sHR00m is right too though |
| 12:56.58 | reliver | ah, yes, astonishing, just a second enter ... |
| 12:59.41 | roxville | todo what? |
| 13:00.01 | sHR00m | does anyone know a good site where i can eap icon files or something? |
| 13:00.11 | sHR00m | where i can get even |
| 13:00.28 | roxville | you prolly have to make 'em yerself |
| 13:00.40 | sHR00m | wow. :P |
| 13:00.45 | roxville | it's not hard, but i can't remember the cammands |
| 13:00.56 | roxville | ommands even |
| 13:00.58 | eshep | sHR00m have you tried the eap packs from get-e.org? |
| 13:01.00 | sHR00m | i know how but i though i saw some sites with fancy motives |
| 13:01.06 | sHR00m | eshep, thank your |
| 13:01.08 | sHR00m | -r |
| 13:01.39 | roxville | oh... hmmm icons..i have no idea about that |
| 13:01.42 | sHR00m | yes exactly these packs :) |
| 13:02.12 | roxville | i don't even know how to change icon theme in e. good thing i would install exquisite anyway :) |
| 13:02.12 | elive-bot | roxville: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 13:02.15 | eshep | you know when you make em yerself, you have to use the full path (/usr/bin/app) |
| 13:03.13 | eshep | roxville, you can get full icon packs there too, like ones for evidence |
| 13:03.13 | *** join/#elive CGA (n=CGA@213-156-52-117.fastres.net) |
| 13:03.34 | roxville | oh, the e17 themes are not a prob, it's the icon theme i'm talking about |
| 13:03.52 | CGA | hola |
| 13:03.52 | roxville | ok, cool! |
| 13:03.55 | eshep | that danm bot just buts in whenever he want to |
| 13:04.04 | roxville | lol |
| 13:04.27 | eshep | with the wrong info... |
| 13:04.32 | roxville | i'm not sure that was automated |
| 13:04.39 | eshep | hola CGA |
| 13:04.59 | eshep | really? |
| 13:05.05 | sHR00m | we need the eap packs in the repository |
| 13:05.20 | eshep | sHR00m, good idea |
| 13:05.29 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.30 | elive-bot | roxville: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 13:05.36 | roxville | ok, it was! |
| 13:05.43 | reliver | is there a gui task manager ? |
| 13:05.55 | roxville | keywords is a blessing and a curse |
| 13:06.04 | sHR00m | roxville, OR see the tweaking section, how to make a symlink in this case |
| 13:06.07 | sHR00m | makes mor sence |
| 13:06.40 | roxville | yes sHR00m , like i said, it's not hard, just a little tedious |
| 13:06.47 | sHR00m | ok :) |
| 13:07.27 | roxville | MY question is... what is the executable for the elive control panel? |
| 13:07.37 | eshep | i just use the icon themes with evidence -T |
| 13:07.48 | sHR00m | i knew it... hmmm |
| 13:07.56 | roxville | i ran elive-skel last night, and now it shows up in engage, but it won't open |
| 13:08.10 | eshep | just a minute roxville |
| 13:09.09 | eshep | damn! mines gone out of my menu |
| 13:09.25 | eshep | only whan sombody has a question... |
| 13:09.28 | roxville | evidence -T? to change the evidence theme to exquisite? or whatever? |
| 13:09.28 | elive-bot | roxville: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 13:09.30 | roxville | lol |
| 13:09.45 | roxville | ok, he's getting a little ennerving now... |
| 13:09.51 | sHR00m | elive-bot, thats not the problem |
| 13:10.10 | eshep | you have to put the icon packs in the right spot |
| 13:10.50 | eshep | good idea |
| 13:11.22 | roxville | so it can't be usr/share/icons or /.e/e/evidence...something |
| 13:12.10 | roxville | ok, my exec for elpanel right now, is sudo mcp |
| 13:12.47 | eshep | i dont think the /usr/share/icons will work, but give it a try |
| 13:13.06 | eshep | elpanel is?..... |
| 13:14.30 | roxville | as thana would say... Evlive Panel Of Control |
| 13:14.37 | eshep | roxville, have you tried the evolume module yet? |
| 13:14.51 | roxville | no, should i? |
| 13:14.58 | eshep | i like hi idea for the new one |
| 13:15.06 | roxville | me too |
| 13:15.10 | eshep | if you use e17, yeah |
| 13:15.27 | sHR00m | entangle is so nice :) |
| 13:15.37 | roxville | anyway, after doing elive-skel as user it come back in engage, but the exec don't work |
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| 13:16.23 | roxville | entangle is great! but...it should have a script that makes it update the list whenever you install a new program |
| 13:17.32 | sHR00m | yes thats a little bit haggling now, but unbelieved comfortable |
| 13:17.55 | roxville | you are soooo german sHR00m ! |
| 13:18.00 | sHR00m | yes |
| 13:18.07 | roxville | and i mean that in the best of ways :) |
| 13:18.15 | sHR00m | well thank you ;) |
| 13:18.25 | eshep | dont, EVER try to run e_util_eapp_edit as root |
| 13:18.30 | sHR00m | how i do edit eap files? |
| 13:18.45 | sHR00m | eshep, oops |
| 13:18.49 | roxville | there ya go sHR00m , that's it, what eshep wrote |
| 13:18.57 | eshep | the only thing that works after doing that is the power button |
| 13:19.25 | eshep | i did it twice yesterday |
| 13:19.31 | eshep | in a row |
| 13:21.02 | roxville | wow, not funny |
| 13:21.23 | roxville | no wonder you weren't very talkative :) |
| 13:22.08 | roxville | ya should'a told me bubba, i woulda' understood! |
| 13:23.12 | eshep | roxville, download this evidence theme http://get-e.org/Themes/Evidence/_files/gant_evidence.tar.bz2 |
| 13:23.48 | eshep | the readme file gives some nice and !easy instructions |
| 13:23.59 | eshep | ...whats wrong with scripts? |
| 13:25.32 | roxville | gant? i...am like, the only person in the world who really don't like gant...but for you, i'll try anything! |
| 13:27.36 | sHR00m | heh |
| 13:27.59 | sHR00m | man.. my e_utils doesnt popup |
| 13:29.20 | roxville | ok eshep, i see now what you mean! man, this readme should be in the tuning section! |
| 13:29.29 | roxville | thanx! |
| 13:30.57 | eshep | roxville, i dont really care for gant either, but its the only one i know of |
| 13:31.39 | eshep | sHR00m, remember to feed it the eap file |
| 13:32.28 | sHR00m | well i followed the guide, clicking the left top of an running application, then "create icon", thats when e_utils should popup, it doesnt. nor does it on bash.. |
| 13:32.40 | sHR00m | but i try, had it open on another system |
| 13:33.28 | eshep | sHR00m first go to ~/.e/e/applications/all |
| 13:33.45 | sHR00m | *exit root* ;) |
| 13:33.51 | eshep | then run $e_util_eapp_edit file.eap |
| 13:34.05 | sHR00m | yes that works |
| 13:34.09 | sHR00m | thx |
| 13:34.21 | eshep | only run as root if your in need of a reboot |
| 13:34.29 | sHR00m | sure ;) |
| 13:34.30 | eshep | np |
| 13:35.21 | roxville | ok, i have an announcement: thana is getting tired now...of all the questions and demands on the edevelop page...how can we help him? |
| 13:35.36 | sHR00m | maybe with a forum? |
| 13:35.52 | sHR00m | or a user wiki |
| 13:35.52 | roxville | we gotta find ppl who can help out here, to make things look nice, to...everything |
| 13:36.05 | roxville | lol |
| 13:37.43 | eshep | hmmm.....why dont we have a forum on the page |
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| 13:44.00 | kender | hello |
| 13:45.26 | roxville | yes eshep, that's a good idea |
| 13:45.30 | roxville | hi kender |
| 13:45.46 | kender | hi roxville :) |
| 13:45.48 | eshep | hi kender |
| 13:45.53 | kender | hi eshep |
| 13:46.56 | roxville | yea...all i'm good at, is telling newbies that thana is the big dog |
| 13:47.23 | kender | hehehe |
| 13:50.57 | roxville | on |
| 13:52.03 | roxville | for uniniciated europeans, walmart is probably the world's largest store chain...the equivalence of a sweatshop in america |
| 13:52.22 | roxville | they keep ppl just below full time, so they don't have to pay benefits |
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| 13:54.05 | roxville | i've used linux for just over a year...i'm pretty good at seeing what a newbie would like to see |
| 13:57.31 | roxville | can |
| 13:57.53 | eshep | if i only could |
| 13:57.53 | sHR00m | roxville, what we would need, to make it look good is a bug tracking and suggestions forum thread. saw many users with the same problems, which could easily got fixed. with a tutorial or support thread, the users also could get help from other users. so there wouldnt be much needed management |
| 13:58.20 | roxville | yes |
| 13:58.31 | roxville | pls save this in a document for thana |
| 13:58.45 | roxville | wooooooo!!!!! |
| 13:58.51 | sHR00m | and everything in bugs has to be updated via apt-get upgrade, cause no one wants to fix it manually |
| 13:58.59 | sHR00m | ok. |
| 13:59.49 | eshep | cmon, dont you like the console? |
| 14:00.04 | roxville | when you have time, read adam doxtaters review of the upcoming ubuntu release. there's some good things there we could probably "borrow" |
| 14:00.09 | roxville | mad penguin |
| 14:00.15 | sHR00m | hrhr |
| 14:00.22 | roxville | for a direct link, go to distrowatch.com |
| 14:01.10 | roxville | he can be an arrogant s.o.b, but sometimes he says relevant things :) |
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| 14:01.42 | roxville | http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145 |
| 14:01.47 | roxville | there ya go |
| 14:01.56 | Picseh | are there shockwave plugins for firefox? |
| 14:02.14 | Picseh | or some other common, Linux, webbrowser? |
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| 14:03.21 | eshep | Picseh, yes there are |
| 14:03.44 | Picseh | woo |
| 14:03.48 | eshep | oh, he left. i guess were too slow |
| 14:03.55 | Picseh | you were not ;) |
| 14:03.56 | Picseh | I'm back |
| 14:04.01 | Picseh | eshep, could you help m? |
| 14:04.12 | eshep | wacha need? |
| 14:04.29 | Picseh | shockwave plugin, gheh.. |
| 14:04.37 | eshep | just a minute |
| 14:04.45 | Picseh | sure |
| 14:05.09 | Thanatermesis | good morning |
| 14:05.17 | Picseh | good afternoon |
| 14:05.48 | Picseh | Thana, can I ask you a rather strange question? :$ |
| 14:06.52 | eshep | Picseh, try this package flashplugin-nonfree |
| 14:07.04 | Picseh | it has shockwave in it too? woa |
| 14:07.11 | eshep | it should |
| 14:07.52 | roxville | Thanatermesis, we're trying to figure out how we can help you, so you can do what you do best: eat, drink and seduce women |
| 14:09.04 | sHR00m | hehe |
| 14:09.18 | eshep | btw, gmornin Thana |
| 14:09.41 | eshep | cause.....hey thats yer niche |
| 14:09.54 | roxville | lol |
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| 14:10.40 | quidam- | Thanatermesis me puedes ayudar? |
| 14:11.05 | roxville | i'd like to be the guy who sits and tell ppl to go to the readme and forums and tuning page |
| 14:11.50 | roxville | and says "ubuntu" every now and then |
| 14:11.55 | roxville | :) |
| 14:12.00 | Thanatermesis | que sucede quidam- ? |
| 14:12.07 | *** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ |
| 14:12.45 | quidam- | sucede que anoche les dio por formatear el windows a mis hermanos |
| 14:12.53 | quidam- | y logicamente se borra el grub |
| 14:13.00 | quidam- | aproveche para instalar elive |
| 14:13.04 | *** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? || Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- repository || You might find the answers to your question in the DOC sections at www.elivecd.org please, take a look at these pages before you ask anything || New forum: www.edevelop.org/forum/elive |
| 14:13.10 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 14:13.13 | quidam- | en una particion que tenia |
| 14:13.23 | quidam- | pero el grub solo me da el elive |
| 14:13.32 | quidam- | y no me da la opcion para ubuntu |
| 14:13.47 | roxville | apt x en es Thanatermesis ha cambiado el asunto a: Is the world prepared for Elive? || Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- repository || You might find the answers to your question in the DOC sections at www.elivecd.org please, take a look at these pages before you ask anything || New forum: www.edevelop.org/forum/ |
| 14:13.47 | roxville | elive |
| 14:13.47 | elive-bot | roxville: http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html |
| 14:13.53 | quidam- | me podrias explicar como añadir esa entrada? |
| 14:14.37 | Thanatermesis | O_O |
| 14:16.32 | quidam- | Thanatermesis me puedes explicar eso? |
| 14:16.45 | quidam- | es que la verdad nunca me he metido con el grub |
| 14:16.51 | quidam- | y no se como hacerlo |
| 14:17.26 | Thanatermesis | quidam- no tiene ningun secreto, las entradas son exactamente las mismas que la que usa elive, solo que tienes que poner el numero de particion de tu ubuntu en vez del numero de particion de elive |
| 14:17.37 | Thanatermesis | haz pruebas o leete la doc, esta todo muy bien explicado |
| 14:17.49 | Thanatermesis | y recuerda que solo probando se aprende ;) |
| 14:18.00 | quidam- | :) |
| 14:18.05 | quidam- | dejame ver |
| 14:18.38 | Thanatermesis | prueba prueba... que yo tengo cosas que hacer por aqui ;) |
| 14:18.45 | Thanatermesis | y sino, pregunta en #debian-es |
| 14:18.49 | Thanatermesis | es una pruegunta tipica |
| 14:18.56 | Thanatermesis | todo el mundo a tocado eso en su vida |
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| 14:21.06 | quidam- | Thanatermesis ok gracias |
| 14:22.34 | eshep | roxville, this icon porting thing sucks dude |
| 14:23.38 | reliver | eshep thana said he had other things to do and could not explain to quidam how to edit grub to allow booting into ubuntu too. |
| 14:24.29 | eshep | reliver, thanks |
| 14:24.39 | reliver | roxville, are you serious that you would like to spend time helping elive users daily ? |
| 14:24.59 | sHR00m | hrhr.. is only another kind if irc addiction :P |
| 14:25.03 | sHR00m | of |
| 14:25.03 | reliver | eshep what is your aspiration with elive ? |
| 14:25.18 | eshep | apt x en es Thanatermesis, do you want me to help quidam-? |
| 14:25.55 | eshep | reliver, im keepin it for good on my laptop |
| 14:25.56 | Thanatermesis | if you like... yes :) |
| 14:26.03 | eshep | sure |
| 14:26.08 | Thanatermesis | thx |
| 14:26.50 | roxville | Thanatermesis, we're trying to do what we can do |
| 14:27.05 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, have you edited your /boot/grub/menu.list yet? |
| 14:27.08 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es we're trying to do what we can do |
| 14:27.12 | roxville | or at least figure out what we might be able to possibly do |
| 14:28.09 | reliver | roxville are you still talking to me ? |
| 14:28.30 | quidam- | veamos si entiendo como funciona esto |
| 14:28.32 | quidam- | apt x es en eshep, estoy haciendo eso |
| 14:28.45 | quidam- | :) |
| 14:28.56 | sHR00m | apt x de en dies ist ein test |
| 14:29.05 | sHR00m | nice |
| 14:29.23 | roxville | reliver, i was talking to everybody, but that doesn't mean i don't like you anymore ! :) lol |
| 14:29.25 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, where are you now? |
| 14:29.30 | roxville | brb |
| 14:29.42 | reliver | roxville, are you serious that you would like to spend time helping elive users daily ? |
| 14:30.30 | quidam- | apt x es en eshep, estoy editando con nano el menu.lst |
| 14:30.42 | eshep | reliver, im sure he would do what he could. and me too. and it works out since we have opposite shifts |
| 14:31.40 | reliver | eshep, that is great. |
| 14:32.06 | reliver | what do you think of accumulating all your infos in a faq, eshep ? |
| 14:32.31 | eshep | ooooohhhh |
| 14:32.33 | eshep | maybe |
| 14:32.47 | reliver | what speaks against it ? |
| 14:33.00 | eshep | brb |
| 14:33.50 | quidam- | apt x es en eshep, ya regreso voy a ver si funcionan los cambios que hice |
| 14:33.50 | reliver | well, me too then. |
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| 14:38.35 | eshep | reliver, im not against it, i just dont put myself at that level. ill offer all i can if thats enough |
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| 14:41.46 | eshep | quidam-, did it work? |
| 14:41.54 | quidam- | no :( |
| 14:42.14 | quidam- | but i try again |
| 14:42.55 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, lets go line by line off of my "u" computer |
| 14:43.44 | eshep | ready? |
| 14:44.14 | quidam- | apt x es en eshep, no entiendo |
| 14:45.18 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, i will give you every entry in menu.lst for ubuntu |
| 14:45.32 | quidam- | ok |
| 14:45.43 | eshep | bah, i said the u word... |
| 14:45.50 | eshep | ready? |
| 14:47.10 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, are you ready? |
| 14:47.48 | quidam- | i copy the text of elive and change the partition and the name |
| 14:48.06 | eshep | title Ubuntu |
| 14:48.26 | eshep | root (hd0,0) |
| 14:49.42 | eshep | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=//dev/hda1 ro quiet splash |
| 14:50.31 | eshep | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386 |
| 14:50.45 | eshep | savedefault |
| 14:50.48 | eshep | boot |
| 14:51.46 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, thats all. make sure your kernel versions are correct and the harddrives too |
| 14:52.09 | quidam- | ok |
| 14:52.45 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, come back and let me know if it worked |
| 14:52.55 | quidam- | ok |
| 14:53.50 | eshep | reliver, you back yet? |
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| 14:55.36 | eshep | quidam-, fix kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=//dev/hda1 ro quiet splash |
| 14:55.40 | eshep | quidam-, fix kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash |
| 14:55.48 | Elive_user | hi |
| 14:56.01 | eshep | hi Elive_user |
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| 14:57.03 | eshep | hi overrider |
| 14:57.37 | overrider | hello |
| 14:58.42 | overrider | i used elive and enlightenment is sweet....now i want to configure en16 on my freebsd box so it looks similar to your en16. where to start? get engage i guess, but i cant find it... |
| 14:58.43 | eshep | need anything? |
| 14:59.33 | eshep | i dont if there are any bsd ports |
| 15:00.16 | overrider | i thought it needs only en16 to run.. ;( |
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| 15:01.07 | eshep | check this out - http://edevelop.org/node/802 |
| 15:02.55 | eshep | this one too - http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-904.html |
| 15:03.27 | quidam- | eshep in the line --> root(hd0,0) i need change something? |
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| 15:05.14 | eshep | quidam-, just fix the kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash |
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| 15:05.37 | roxville | ok, back... for a bit |
| 15:05.52 | overrider | i am running en16.7.2 already since a while...my problem right now is where can i get engage? engage doesnt care about the os right? only cares about en... |
| 15:06.02 | roxville | ok, what we really need, is a forum, just like u said |
| 15:06.11 | eshep | roxville, read up, i kinda answered reliver for ya |
| 15:06.18 | roxville | ok |
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| 15:06.51 | eshep | overrider, thats my understanding |
| 15:07.04 | overrider | k |
| 15:07.10 | eshep | sHR00m, you ran it as root didnt ya |
| 15:07.27 | sHR00m | ran what as root? |
| 15:07.36 | overrider | so where would you get engage? |
| 15:07.41 | sHR00m | no i just changed my resolution to 1400 x 1050 :) |
| 15:07.43 | eshep | overrider, give it a try. then let us know either way |
| 15:08.00 | eshep | ooooooohhhh, wide screen |
| 15:08.07 | sHR00m | no, 4/3 |
| 15:08.17 | sHR00m | but better than 1280x 1024 |
| 15:08.24 | eshep | really? :/ |
| 15:09.05 | overrider | sure i will, but can you give me a place where to download engage? i cant find it anywhere, though it is listed as an application on enlightenments website... |
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| 15:09.23 | roxville | ok, i have no idea what effort a forum would take, all i know is that it would be easier to answer questions than in an irc channel |
| 15:09.29 | eshep | just a minute |
| 15:09.46 | roxville | eshep, have you seen the unofficial ubuntu add-on cd? |
| 15:10.07 | roxville | ok, i'll wait |
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| 15:12.03 | quidam- | eshep dont work |
| 15:12.13 | eshep | overrider, try this |
| 15:12.18 | eshep | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login |
| 15:12.18 | eshep | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment co misc/engage |
| 15:13.24 | eshep | roxville, i have seen it yes. but i have not used it. i think i still have the iso |
| 15:13.46 | overrider | thanks |
| 15:14.20 | eshep | apt x en es quidam-, paste your ubuntu lines from menu.lst in here |
| 15:14.26 | Davidcc6 | Thanatermesis: ya instale elive, no hay forma de que una ves instalado siga booteando como el livecd? |
| 15:14.35 | roxville | it is pretty good. the faq is espeically |
| 15:15.02 | roxville | especially good |
| 15:15.40 | eshep | updates or just apps? |
| 15:16.30 | eshep | btw, you were right k3b>gnomebaker |
| 15:17.04 | roxville | add-on apps |
| 15:17.58 | Thanatermesis | Davidcc6 no entiendo, como que "como el liveCD" ? |
| 15:18.19 | Thanatermesis | son 2 sistemas distintos, el sistema instalado para trabajar todos los dias... y el livecd... |
| 15:18.28 | Thanatermesis | que es lo que te falta ? |
| 15:18.40 | Davidcc6 | Thanatermesis: haber, el sistema instalado puede ponerse a bootear como el cd? |
| 15:18.53 | roxville | and a faq about everything from themes to networking |
| 15:18.59 | Davidcc6 | mi pregunta era el porque por defecto no quedaba booteando como el cd :D |
| 15:19.08 | Davidcc6 | Thanatermesis: que era mas bonito |
| 15:19.47 | eshep | cool |
| 15:20.23 | Thanatermesis | donde es mas bonito Davidcc6 ? no entiendo tu problema |
| 15:20.25 | Thanatermesis | es el mismo sistema |
| 15:20.32 | Thanatermesis | que no encuentras? el e17 ? |
| 15:20.49 | Thanatermesis | entra el nombre del usuario, luego le picas a e17 y luego metes el pass |
| 15:21.09 | Davidcc6 | Thanatermesis: no, no... al bootear, aparece una imagen de presentacion del elive, cuando es desde el cd, al instalar bootea en texto... era eso |
| 15:21.30 | Thanatermesis | eso es asi |
| 15:21.32 | Thanatermesis | y es mejor asi |
| 15:21.37 | Thanatermesis | asi se pueden ver los mensajes |
| 15:25.26 | Davidcc6 | jeje, oky, no molesto mas, era un tonteria al fin y al cabo xD |
| 15:26.53 | eshep | g'night all |
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| 15:35.20 | Elive_user2 | waka waka |
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| 15:38.12 | overrider | i did cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment co misc/engage and it downloaded some files, but where did they go? |
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| 15:39.09 | sHR00m | overrider, there is a good guide on get-e.org |
| 15:39.16 | sHR00m | including cvs install |
| 15:39.50 | overrider | thanks...going there right now |
| 15:40.34 | eshep | sHR00m, he want engage for BSD |
| 15:41.27 | sHR00m | eshep, hmm but the cvs basics he could learn with the guide |
| 15:41.30 | sHR00m | also de depencies, etc |
| 15:41.40 | sHR00m | the |
| 15:42.11 | Elive_user2 | is e17 beta? |
| 15:42.19 | eshep | yeah, can you help him from here? i gotta hit the sack |
| 15:43.43 | sHR00m | no i cant.. he can read the docs or install elive. dunno if its possible what he wants to do |
| 15:44.01 | sHR00m | Elive_user2, welcome, yes it is under developement, but pretty usable |
| 15:44.46 | Elive_user2 | I agree.. Is there a projected date on final release? |
| 15:44.46 | eshep | me neither, but its just an efl app. so it "should" be alright. right? |
| 15:45.03 | Elive_user2 | or, when that desktop shell thing will be available?' |
| 15:45.35 | overrider | yeah i just got it from cvs, but it wont compile...cant find automake, autoconf etc. guess i will have read some more....thanks for the help though...later |
| 15:49.17 | sHR00m | Elive_user2, not is is not. they working on it and when its done its done. actually only fast way to use it is install elive or get some outdated debs, which may work or may conflict |
| 15:50.10 | Elive_user2 | I'm using elive... |
| 15:50.27 | sHR00m | ah, yes. sorry *g* |
| 15:50.45 | sHR00m | theres no final release date yet |
| 15:51.02 | Elive_user2 | so the desktop shell thing.. is it gettable if I'm using elive here? |
| 15:52.08 | sHR00m | i red parts of it arent working yet. but whats working is on elive |
| 15:52.22 | Elive_user2 | ah cool |
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| 15:53.31 | Elive_user2 | last two questions: is there a transparency settings tool somewhere... and is there a place I can get more information on the desktop shell? |
| 15:55.00 | sHR00m | well xorg has the composite extention, which makes real transparency possible, with a hand full of tools. but they arent 100% working with e17 yet. fake transparency like in old wms is not recommened, as its buggy there |
| 15:55.30 | Elive_user2 | ok |
| 16:00.31 | roxville | does anybody have an idea (this IS a question) how difficult it would be to put up a forum? |
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| 16:04.12 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 16:04.26 | pr0t0cod7 | roxville: there's already a forum |
| 16:04.31 | pr0t0cod7 | look in the topic |
| 16:04.33 | sinplomo | hi |
| 16:04.37 | pr0t0cod7 | hi sinplomo |
| 16:04.37 | sinplomo | || New forum: www.edevelop.org/forum/elive |
| 16:04.52 | sHR00m | apt x de en <johndoe> sollte nicht so schwer sein wenn du ne mysql datenbank anlegen kannst.. die meisten foren installieren sich eh quasi selbst per script |
| 16:04.57 | pr0t0cod7 | it's not possible to put it directly on the website |
| 16:05.09 | pr0t0cod7 | du to the content system |
| 16:05.17 | sHR00m | roxville, thats for you |
| 16:05.47 | Mahoche | hi there |
| 16:06.41 | Mahoche | how r u? |
| 16:09.26 | sHR00m | hi Mahoche. i found icon packs for e17. also for skype |
| 16:09.38 | sHR00m | on www.get-e.org on themes section |
| 16:10.01 | Mahoche | YES!!! |
| 16:10.08 | sHR00m | i'm fine, thanx. hows the weather in mozambique? *g* |
| 16:10.10 | Mahoche | than sHR00m |
| 16:10.22 | Mahoche | its kinda hot |
| 16:11.10 | Mahoche | and there? |
| 16:11.45 | roxville | thanks sHR00m ! i actually understand the original german better than apt's translation |
| 16:12.04 | sHR00m | the sun is there, less clouds, but not that hot :) |
| 16:12.11 | sHR00m | roxville, i see, ok ;) |
| 16:13.03 | roxville | we just need somebody central to host it...and i reboot and stuff all the time...we would need a dedicated server |
| 16:14.19 | sinplomo | hi Mahoche |
| 16:14.26 | sHR00m | Mahoche, if you want to change your icons to the pack, move .e/e/applications/all/*.* to a backup dir and put the pack in it. if you need to change an link, go into the all dir and type e_util_eapp_edit xxx.eap. with entangle you can build your icon bar and menu |
| 16:15.16 | sHR00m | roxville, maybe i could do anything.. but if the traffic goes aboce 25 gb / month i must "umdenken" |
| 16:15.53 | Mahoche | brb |
| 16:16.33 | roxville | then you should probably think again right now, but... maybe we could have like...a network of forum servers that are synced or something |
| 16:17.07 | sHR00m | a friend of mine is a hoster, i have to know which traffic cames across ;) |
| 16:18.23 | sHR00m | maybe he extends my free traffic or so |
| 16:19.43 | roxville | apt x en es Thanatermesis , would a forum be less intesive than an irc channel? i mean, less work and sitting by the computer the WHOLE time? |
| 16:22.07 | roxville | and i KNOW that a well written FAQ/how to a' la "the unofficial ubuntu add-on CD" would help out a LOT |
| 16:22.53 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> roxville: there's already a forum |
| 16:22.53 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> look in the topic |
| 16:23.07 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 16:23.08 | pr0t0cod7 | ?? |
| 16:23.20 | pr0t0cod7 | ah |
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| 16:28.29 | roxville | yes, that is the forum..ok, i thought it was just for developers...i dunno, maybe the name will scare some ppl off |
| 16:28.54 | roxville | and the font is weird, i can hardly read the postings |
| 16:29.44 | Elive_user2 | pr0t0cod7: hey babe |
| 16:31.19 | Elive_user2 | just kidding.. we don't know eachother.. but I do know a protokol |
| 16:31.20 | Mahoche | i'm having a prob. with apt-get: i was downloading smb4k yesterday but my lil' bro. closed the e-term... and when i try 2 continue downloading it starts but then i receive this message: "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update..." |
| 16:31.29 | roxville | but the docs are getting there! |
| 16:31.43 | Mahoche | and the download aborts |
| 16:32.28 | Mahoche | i did run apt-get but the problem continues |
| 16:32.40 | Mahoche | apt-get update* |
| 16:32.43 | pr0t0cod7 | Elive_user2: uh?..ah ok - hey then ;) |
| 16:33.05 | pr0t0cod7 | roxville: you can set the minimum font size in firefox |
| 16:33.32 | Elive_user2 | I'm interested in the desktop shell thing.. I want more information on it |
| 16:34.00 | roxville | yes pr0t0cod7 ... i'm not bitching, just thinking how I can help |
| 16:34.11 | roxville | probably best by stopping my bitching |
| 16:34.15 | roxville | :) |
| 16:34.35 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe |
| 16:34.50 | Elive_user2 | as a noobie, I always wished there was a tool that converted all cli tools into gui tools.. with gui man interfaces to each tool |
| 16:35.18 | Elive_user2 | the desktop shell thing reminds me of that.. but I haven't heard much about it, so I don't know |
| 16:36.19 | roxville | but pr0t0cod7 , almost everywhere else i go, i don't need to resize... |
| 16:36.25 | roxville | i gotta go, bbl |
| 16:36.31 | sHR00m | Mahoche, hmm i try it to apt-get |
| 16:38.18 | Mahoche | sHR00m, i'm downloading the animated backgrounds |
| 16:39.11 | sHR00m | smb4k is installed now.. only dep is smbfs |
| 16:39.41 | sHR00m | maybe you want to apt-get remove smbfs or so. OR you could have changed the repository and now there are conflicts |
| 16:40.23 | Mahoche | no... i didn't change the repository... |
| 16:40.43 | Mahoche | it only happens when i try 2 download smb4k |
| 16:41.01 | pr0t0cod7 | roxville: yes it's strange :/ |
| 16:41.08 | sHR00m | please try it and post everything in my query, ok? |
| 16:41.37 | Mahoche | ok |
| 16:41.47 | Mahoche | smbfs is installed... |
| 16:48.02 | roxville | ppl really like it! look here http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?s=ab5092700b48fbd690eed8e99aba0957&showtopic=13088&pid=159489&st=0&#entry159489 |
| 16:48.15 | roxville | ok, i'm gone again... |
| 16:50.53 | reliver | hello again. |
| 16:51.47 | reliver | eshep dodo, roxville bezee. |
| 16:51.58 | reliver | is there any way to get a complete dock in elive, shr00m ? |
| 16:52.28 | jnymo | sorry guys.. but I really got to go |
| 16:52.30 | jnymo | later |
| 16:52.40 | reliver | bye jnymo |
| 16:52.42 | sHR00m | you mean a documentation? |
| 16:52.55 | reliver | no, i mean a task bar. |
| 16:53.45 | roxville | maybe that python gnome bar would work...damn i can't remember it's name |
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| 17:02.39 | sHR00m | reliver, surely you can update your taskbar.. maybe ask Thanatermesis? he uses e16 |
| 17:03.40 | Thanatermesis | what task bar ? |
| 17:03.42 | reliver | update ? can i make it stay in the foreground ? |
| 17:04.21 | reliver | i need a task bar or dock to jump to any window that is open or open favourite apps. |
| 17:05.48 | sHR00m | well i can do this with alt + tab, can easily seek the right app, but dunno if its in e16 that way |
| 17:06.11 | reliver | yes, alt-tab works well in e16 |
| 17:06.38 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, in elive 0.1 or so. there was an nice icon bar. where is it now? |
| 17:06.51 | sHR00m | at e16 |
| 17:09.02 | Mahoche | i want 2 add new backgrounds... where should i put them? |
| 17:10.19 | sHR00m | Mahoche, just use e17setroot -s file.xxx :) |
| 17:10.35 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m mmmmh, what you need ? the standalone version of engage bar ? this is in e16, no in e17 |
| 17:11.26 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, reliver wants "something to open favourite apps" in e16 |
| 17:12.11 | reliver | this is implemente in the elive dock, shr00m |
| 17:12.19 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es eliver wants "something to open favourite apps" in e16 |
| 17:12.21 | sHR00m | ok |
| 17:12.23 | reliver | this is implemented in the elive dock, shr00m |
| 17:12.40 | reliver | i need a task bar or dock to jump to any window that is open or open favourite apps. |
| 17:13.10 | Mahoche | sHR00m.. can u tell me step by step plz |
| 17:13.18 | reliver | and it needs to be in the foreground. |
| 17:13.34 | Mahoche | i'm givin' my 1st steps here |
| 17:14.50 | sHR00m | Mahoche, you are using e17 right? then open an eterm and type e17setroot -s (for scaled to display size) yourbackgroundpic.jpg |
| 17:15.29 | Mahoche | ok thanx... this is an animated background |
| 17:15.44 | sHR00m | oh, for e17? |
| 17:16.04 | Mahoche | i found something... they say i that i need 2 move it 2 ~/.e/e/backgrounds |
| 17:16.56 | sHR00m | if your file format is already edb, then yes. in case of an jpg or png e17setsoot converts it to edb and puts it into /.e/e/backgrounds automatically |
| 17:21.00 | Mahoche | the format is .edj |
| 17:27.15 | sHR00m | well, try to set is as background with e17setroot -s or if thats not working, put it in the backgrounds dir |
| 17:28.07 | sHR00m | after its in the background dir you also can use emblem to change it |
| 17:28.20 | sHR00m | with leftclick - configuration - background selector |
| 17:28.55 | Mahoche | its already in the background directory |
| 17:29.33 | Mahoche | but when i open emblem the background it's not there |
| 17:29.44 | Mahoche | maybe a i need 2 restart.. |
| 17:30.20 | reliver | no mahoche |
| 17:30.39 | reliver | just reload enlightenment |
| 17:30.53 | Mahoche | ok |
| 17:31.26 | Mahoche | brb |
| 17:31.38 | sHR00m | Mahoche, normally, with e17setroot you dont need an restart |
| 17:31.46 | sHR00m | it puts it in the background and in the dir |
| 17:32.33 | Mahoche | lemme try then... thank 4 ur help |
| 17:35.06 | Mahoche | i get this error: "No display parameter passed to e_lib_init, and no display variable. Segmentation fault" |
| 17:35.35 | sHR00m | sounds like an broken animated background |
| 17:35.42 | sHR00m | can i have the url to test it? |
| 17:35.52 | Mahoche | i tried this: e17setroot -s file.xxx |
| 17:35.53 | Mahoche | sure |
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| 17:36.53 | Mahoche | http://www.get-e.org/Themes/Backgrounds/index.html |
| 17:36.55 | kender | hello |
| 17:37.06 | Mahoche | i was trying the E17 Rising background |
| 17:37.11 | Mahoche | hi kender |
| 17:37.12 | sHR00m | ok |
| 17:37.13 | reliver | hello kender |
| 17:37.21 | kender | hi Mahoche reliver |
| 17:37.42 | Mahoche | how iz it goin'? |
| 17:37.46 | reliver | kender, an old skin ? |
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| 17:38.27 | kender | reliver, sorry..I don't understand you...old skin? |
| 17:38.40 | Mahoche | sHR00m i'll be right back |
| 17:38.55 | reliver | or are you a newbie like me ? |
| 17:39.24 | kender | hehehe |
| 17:39.37 | kender | well...I'm old in linux...but a new in elive :) |
| 17:40.39 | sHR00m | worked.. hm :) |
| 17:42.00 | reliver | are you a linux pro ? |
| 17:42.49 | kender | reliver, well...I think not...nobody call me "guru" nor similar |
| 17:42.51 | kender | heheh |
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| 17:46.37 | Sphinx | sHR00m ... it was my fault |
| 17:46.42 | sHR00m | i know :) |
| 17:46.44 | Sphinx | i was logged as root |
| 17:46.47 | sHR00m | yes |
| 17:46.49 | sHR00m | np |
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| 17:46.58 | Sphinx | :-D |
| 17:47.03 | sHR00m | i didnt knew the backgrounds, very nice |
| 17:47.12 | Sphinx | ya... indeed |
| 17:47.13 | sHR00m | they even work on my p2 :P |
| 17:47.53 | Sphinx | thats whats nice about E |
| 17:47.53 | Sphinx | too light... |
| 17:48.05 | kender | reliver, where are you from? |
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| 17:48.09 | sHR00m | yes, but.. shaders arent possible |
| 17:48.13 | sHR00m | without its fine *g* |
| 17:48.27 | reliver | from switzerland |
| 17:48.42 | reliver | and you ? |
| 17:48.49 | kender | spain |
| 17:48.59 | reliver | ah, de donde ? |
| 17:49.17 | kender | jajaja |
| 17:49.21 | kender | sabes español? |
| 17:49.38 | reliver | vou pretendendo siempre ;) |
| 17:49.59 | reliver | kender sounds english |
| 17:50.01 | kender | mm.. |
| 17:50.15 | kender | yeah |
| 17:50.25 | reliver | why, do you |
| 17:50.26 | kender | it is a english word |
| 17:50.32 | reliver | prefer english ? |
| 17:50.56 | kender | well it is more internatinal, and is very beutifull |
| 17:50.58 | kender | xDDD |
| 17:51.03 | reliver | what does kender mean ? |
| 17:51.06 | kender | *international |
| 17:51.51 | reliver | oque te falta en elive, kender ? |
| 17:51.55 | kender | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kender |
| 17:52.06 | kender | reliver, no uso Elive |
| 17:52.45 | reliver | http://kencyclopedia.com/ |
| 17:53.05 | reliver | ah, porque llegaste aqui ? |
| 17:53.32 | kender | Thanatermesis el creador es español |
| 17:53.41 | kender | nos conocemos del canal de debian-es |
| 17:53.48 | kender | aqui hay buen ambiente |
| 17:54.10 | kender | If you don't understand somthing tell me and I will traslate you |
| 17:54.12 | kender | :) |
| 17:54.33 | reliver | si, gracias, kender. |
| 17:55.07 | reliver | el perigo maior es que no es possible entender mi "espanol" :) |
| 17:55.12 | reliver | peligro |
| 17:55.23 | kender | *major |
| 17:55.29 | reliver | major :) |
| 17:55.37 | kender | uis |
| 17:55.39 | kender | mayor |
| 17:55.41 | kender | xDDDDDDDDd |
| 17:56.24 | reliver | ah, si, verificado. |
| 17:56.26 | kender | reliver, and you please check my english...I'm learning :) |
| 17:56.32 | kender | jeje |
| 17:56.38 | reliver | eeee ... |
| 17:56.40 | reliver | ;) |
| 17:57.04 | reliver | oque hiciste en debian es ? |
| 17:57.12 | kender | aprender |
| 17:57.18 | reliver | porque ? |
| 17:57.20 | kender | aprendi mucho...y enseñe mucho |
| 17:57.49 | kender | bueno..hay buena gente que te enseña a resolver los problemas |
| 17:57.51 | kender | :) |
| 17:58.16 | reliver | si, despues de todos estes anos siempre hay que resolver problemas ? |
| 17:58.44 | kender | sinplomo, siempre hay gente que sabe mas que tu...o que a resulto tu mismo problema |
| 17:58.53 | kender | pero sobre todo..para ayudar a los que no saben |
| 17:58.55 | kender | :) |
| 17:59.08 | reliver | oh, que lindo, gracias kender. |
| 17:59.23 | reliver | no te gustaria usar elive, dimme ? |
| 17:59.26 | kender | o que a resulto tu mismo problema => o que a resuelto tu problema |
| 17:59.44 | kender | bueno, veras, elive esta muy bien para cuando empiezas |
| 18:00.02 | kender | pero luego la notas demasiado cargada |
| 18:00.11 | kender | y quieres hacerte la tuya desde cero |
| 18:00.19 | kender | entonces instalas debian |
| 18:00.24 | kender | desde la base |
| 18:00.32 | kender | y instalas solo lo que tu quieres |
| 18:00.40 | kender | de todas formas yo ahora uso Gentoo |
| 18:01.01 | reliver | ah, para los sabios :) |
| 18:01.10 | kender | jajaja |
| 18:01.27 | kender | reliver, estudias español por tu cuenta? |
| 18:01.45 | reliver | mas tienes una aspiracion con todo esto aprendizaje ? |
| 18:02.23 | reliver | so lo tento hablar quando puedo, si, para aprender. |
| 18:02.44 | kender | bueno...no exactamente...pero me gustaria en un futuro colavorar con el mundo del software libre :) |
| 18:02.59 | sinplomo | <kender> sinplomo, siempre hay gente que sabe mas que tu...o que a resulto tu mismo problema O_o |
| 18:03.03 | kender | reliver, pero te enseña alguien español? |
| 18:03.07 | sinplomo | que dices kender ? |
| 18:03.08 | sinplomo | xD |
| 18:03.12 | reliver | sin escuelas, siempre, no me gustan mas autoridades. |
| 18:03.14 | kender | sinplomo, xDD |
| 18:03.19 | kender | reliver, :D |
| 18:03.27 | kender | sinplomo, mira la siguiente frase mia |
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| 18:03.41 | kender | <kender> o que a resulto tu mismo problema => o que a resuelto tu problema |
| 18:03.50 | sinplomo | kender, que problema ? |
| 18:03.57 | sinplomo | el del aburrimiento ? |
| 18:03.57 | reliver | si, kender, personas carinas como tu. |
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| 18:03.58 | sinplomo | xD |
| 18:03.59 | kender | cualquiera |
| 18:04.00 | sceptiQ | hello |
| 18:04.01 | kender | xD |
| 18:04.13 | sceptiQ | i installed "elive" on my laptop |
| 18:04.14 | kender | reliver, carinas? |
| 18:04.38 | reliver | hello sceptiq |
| 18:04.48 | reliver | personas con carino. |
| 18:04.49 | kender | hi sceptiQ |
| 18:04.57 | sceptiQ | and my question: can i use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade without loosing my working e stuff? |
| 18:05.01 | kender | reliver, casiñosas |
| 18:05.06 | sceptiQ | hi every body |
| 18:05.11 | reliver | no, kender |
| 18:05.14 | kender | sceptiQ, yeah |
| 18:05.16 | sinplomo | sceptiQ, yes :) |
| 18:05.20 | sceptiQ | okay... |
| 18:05.36 | sceptiQ | i did it, but now in e17 icant see my mouse pointer :D |
| 18:05.37 | kender | reliver, no? |
| 18:05.50 | kender | reconfigure it |
| 18:06.06 | reliver | personas con corazon :) |
| 18:06.21 | kender | reliver, ahh :) |
| 18:06.44 | kender | reliver, cuantos años tienes? |
| 18:07.18 | reliver | si, que son bastante raras, mas y mas hoy. |
| 18:07.19 | Sphinx | uma dúvida. qual a ferramenta no e17 para criar shortcuts? |
| 18:07.27 | reliver | 40 :) |
| 18:08.07 | kender | reliver, jejeje |
| 18:08.33 | reliver | verdad, kender ? 2 % en las ciudades ? |
| 18:08.50 | Sphinx | which tool should i use to create shortcuts? |
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| 18:09.10 | reliver | sceptiq elive is beta, updates unfortunately can screw things up ... :( |
| 18:09.40 | reliver | ln -s, sphinx ? |
| 18:09.42 | sceptiQ | okay :D |
| 18:09.56 | sceptiQ | cqan u tell me how i change the theme of entrance? |
| 18:09.56 | elive-bot | sceptiQ: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 18:10.14 | Sphinx | reliver its like this... |
| 18:10.14 | reliver | but by all means, sceptiq, contact thanatermesis over it. |
| 18:10.16 | sceptiQ | damn elive-bot i know this |
| 18:10.55 | kender | reliver, no te entiendo |
| 18:11.05 | Sphinx | i downloaded sum new apps and i'd like to add them to my Favorite Applications |
| 18:11.12 | Sphinx | menu |
| 18:11.23 | Thanatermesis | this is a feature for the next panel of control :) |
| 18:11.25 | reliver | tem pocas personas con corazon, si ? |
| 18:11.52 | kender | bueno...en el mundo linux hay una pocas :) |
| 18:12.43 | reliver | para mim es dificil encontrarlas, en el mundo linux tambien. |
| 18:12.50 | Sphinx | Thanatermesis... is there any way around for now? |
| 18:12.54 | reliver | hay pocas. |
| 18:13.00 | sceptiQ | can somebody rent me his mouse pointer? |
| 18:13.19 | kender | reliver, y entonces este canal? aqui todo ayudamos...todos ponemos de nuestra parte |
| 18:13.20 | Thanatermesis | Sphinx enter in /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 18:13.25 | Thanatermesis | entrance -T -t theme-name |
| 18:13.25 | kender | *todos |
| 18:13.28 | Thanatermesis | for test |
| 18:13.33 | Thanatermesis | and change the name of the "default" theme |
| 18:13.34 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 18:13.45 | sceptiQ | Thanatermesis, thx |
| 18:14.08 | reliver | vamos a ver, espero que tienes razon kender :-) |
| 18:14.21 | kender | *tengas |
| 18:14.23 | kender | ;-) |
| 18:14.33 | kender | futuro |
| 18:14.49 | reliver | te puedo dar un exemplo en ubuntu, una persona que ayudo mas que todos, para meses, |
| 18:15.04 | kender | reliver, si me vuelvo pesado me dices y dejo de correjirte ehh :) |
| 18:15.13 | Sphinx | ok |
| 18:15.19 | kender | reliver, no lo dudo :) |
| 18:15.29 | reliver | es un grande #@! :) |
| 18:15.59 | kender | jajaja |
| 18:16.14 | kender | *exemplo = ejemplo |
| 18:16.59 | reliver | en privado te lo puedo dar, kender. |
| 18:17.14 | kender | como quieras |
| 18:17.49 | kender | si lo ves necesario.. |
| 18:17.50 | sceptiQ | hm entrance --theme=blub.edj takes no effeckt :/ |
| 18:17.59 | kender | pero yo no creo que pueda hacer nada |
| 18:18.18 | reliver | quien no puede hacer nada ? |
| 18:19.04 | kender | quiero decir que yo no podria hacer nada |
| 18:19.09 | kender | para evitar eso |
| 18:19.21 | reliver | claro, no quiero que haces algo :) |
| 18:19.29 | Sphinx | Thanatermesis the logins are great... |
| 18:19.33 | kender | ok ok |
| 18:19.35 | kender | :) |
| 18:19.37 | kender | *hagas |
| 18:19.39 | reliver | mas tu querias un ejemplo para poder entender oque digo, si ? |
| 18:19.39 | kender | futuro |
| 18:19.41 | kender | :) |
| 18:19.50 | kender | vale |
| 18:20.06 | kender | *oque = lo que |
| 18:20.22 | reliver | estas registrado aqui ? |
| 18:20.34 | kender | si |
| 18:20.42 | kender | bueno.. |
| 18:20.48 | kender | registrado en que sentido? |
| 18:20.54 | kender | el nick lo tengo registrado si |
| 18:21.54 | reliver | tengo una visita ahora, yo soy lists aroba user-land.org |
| 18:22.31 | kender | ese es tu email? |
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| 18:27.10 | roxville | reliver? i thought about it, and i think the gnome-bar is a perlscript, not python |
| 18:27.25 | roxville | i am not good enough to tell you if it'd work in e |
| 18:27.56 | roxville | it looks almost like a gnome taskbar, but it's a lot lighter |
| 18:28.45 | roxville | panel, that's what it is |
| 18:29.57 | roxville | yes, perlpanel http://freshmeat.net/projects/perlpanel/ |
| 18:36.43 | roxville | YAY! it's AAALLLIIIIVE! |
| 18:37.11 | roxville | tell you what though, it ain't pretty! lol |
| 18:41.44 | roxville | reliver ? |
| 18:50.50 | roxville | with the right gtk2 theme, it's looks pretty darn good too! |
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| 18:51.34 | roxville | sHR00m, was it you or reliver that wanted a taskbar? |
| 18:51.56 | sHR00m | reliver |
| 18:52.30 | roxville | ok, well the perlpanel works pretty well..i didn't install the recommended packages, but..looks nice |
| 18:54.40 | roxville | Thanatermesis, is there anywhere i can post a screenshot? perlpanel seems to work well if ppl wnat a task bar |
| 18:54.59 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es is there anywhere i can post a screenshot? perlpanel seems to work well if ppl wnat a task bar |
| 18:56.36 | Thanatermesis | roxville put in imageshack ? www.imageshack.us |
| 18:56.44 | roxville | apt x en es or can I dcc it to someone who can post a screenshot? |
| 18:56.48 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 19:14.35 | roxville | [URL=http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3wu.png][IMG]http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/2801/screenshot3wu.th.png |
| 19:14.47 | roxville | hope it works... |
| 19:14.56 | roxville | nope |
| 19:15.02 | roxville | [URL=http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3wu.png][IMG]http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/2801/screenshot3wu.th.png[/IMG][/URL] |
| 19:15.08 | roxville | fuck |
| 19:15.11 | roxville | sorry |
| 19:15.56 | roxville | http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/2801/screenshot3wu.png |
| 19:16.46 | roxville | Thanatermesis, ? this is with the smoked glass gtk2 theme |
| 19:17.42 | Thanatermesis | http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/2801/screenshot3wu.th.png |
| 19:18.14 | Thanatermesis | http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3wu.png |
| 19:19.04 | Thanatermesis | yes roxville |
| 19:19.20 | Thanatermesis | you have installed from apt-get ? |
| 19:19.29 | roxville | it's perlpanel ...for ppl who want a taskbar... |
| 19:19.31 | roxville | yes |
| 19:19.50 | sinplomo | roxville, pypanel is better :) |
| 19:20.24 | roxville | apt x en es i did not install all the recommended packages, but you could even have a gnome menu if you want... i think |
| 19:20.31 | Thanatermesis | perlpanel ? mmmmh |
| 19:20.37 | Thanatermesis | but for what need this roxville ? |
| 19:20.42 | Thanatermesis | e16 have a minimizer... |
| 19:20.51 | Thanatermesis | (and e17) |
| 19:21.26 | roxville | some people want a taskbar , that's all... sorry for disturbing |
| 19:21.36 | Thanatermesis | roxville ... but... |
| 19:21.43 | Thanatermesis | "what is taskbar" ? |
| 19:21.47 | roxville | sinplomo, i think pypanel looks oddly shaped |
| 19:22.04 | roxville | it is what you see at the top of my screenshot |
| 19:22.09 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 19:22.14 | Thanatermesis | but, for what are this ? |
| 19:22.36 | Thanatermesis | e16 have a menu with programs, engage launcher, minimizer... |
| 19:22.44 | Thanatermesis | Im not understand what really needs the people |
| 19:22.54 | roxville | for ppl who like to switch between open windows with the mouse? |
| 19:23.04 | sHR00m | i dont get it, too.. the whole discussion.. |
| 19:23.16 | roxville | ok |
| 19:23.21 | roxville | it's cool |
| 19:23.42 | roxville | i got excited, that's all, sorry |
| 19:24.03 | Thanatermesis | roxville and not are better to click (or inclusive, move), the icons/programs from the pager? ;) |
| 19:24.25 | sHR00m | e17 has a taskpanel, with alt+tab, you can easily switch apps with the up and down key, cursor follows the apps |
| 19:24.33 | sHR00m | doesnt e16 has some similiar feature? |
| 19:24.42 | Thanatermesis | roxville you have looked the first video of Elive ? the entire maked in e16, without sound... |
| 19:24.55 | roxville | i know, i use alt+tab all the time |
| 19:24.56 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m yes, sure |
| 19:25.03 | roxville | yes thana, i have seen it |
| 19:25.49 | roxville | but it was kinda fast, i don't remember seeing something like that |
| 19:26.09 | Thanatermesis | roxville for me... are really better, more eye-candy, more fast etc... the pager for switch with mouse to a panel... also I have 30 desktops with a lot of terminals.. how to manage all with a panel ? |
| 19:26.10 | roxville | ok, reliver wanted a taskbar, so i found one that would work, that's all |
| 19:26.52 | Thanatermesis | yeah, don't worry, I apreciate this... but Im only no understand for what need this reliver ... :) |
| 19:27.04 | roxville | yes Thanatermesis , but a LOT of ppl don't have 30 windows with 60 terminals open at the same time |
| 19:27.33 | roxville | ok, let's forget this...incident then, shall we? |
| 19:28.32 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, its only a example, you have 2 desktops, 4 opened aplications, minimize/maximize.. ok, manage good with panel and pager... in any case, better for me the pager... but if you have a lot of aplications/desktops opened same to me... why use panel if have a better option? :) |
| 19:29.17 | roxville | exactly :) |
| 19:29.41 | Mahoche | where should i put a script 2 be executed at startup? |
| 19:29.46 | roxville | ok, next time i will have a GOOD idea! |
| 19:29.46 | Thanatermesis | Elive not is a kde/gnome style desktop work... of course not similar to windows... why use windows/kde/gnome style of work if have a better and fast option ? you dont like this? why use Elive ? :) |
| 19:29.47 | roxville | brb |
| 19:30.04 | Mahoche | where should i put a script 2 be executed at startup? |
| 19:30.17 | Thanatermesis | haha, don't worry, roxville , you are welcomed ;) |
| 19:30.46 | Thanatermesis | Mahoche init script for the system ? |
| 19:31.33 | Mahoche | i need LinNeighborhood 2 mount the shares when the systems start |
| 19:31.44 | Mahoche | system* |
| 19:32.45 | Mahoche | the script is done but i'm not sure where i should put it |
| 19:35.24 | Thanatermesis | use the remember options |
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| 19:35.28 | Thanatermesis | alt-mouse |
| 19:35.32 | Thanatermesis | in the window |
| 19:35.47 | Mahoche | ok thanx |
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| 20:34.41 | sinplomo | apt, es en agujero |
| 20:35.36 | Mahoche | flo .d |
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| 22:04.30 | sceptiQ | im running elive cd atm, what happens with the software im installing via apt-get? |
| 22:04.51 | sceptiQ | where will it be placed? |
| 22:08.10 | roxville | most likely in /usr/bin |
| 22:09.26 | roxville | ahhh, hold on... you mean the apps you install WHILE running from CD? |
| 22:16.19 | roxville | i'm not sure, but a wild guess would be: somewhere on your hard drive and it will be erased (probably) when you reboot |
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| 22:18.07 | sHR00m | roxville, huh? elive has an cdrw feature |
| 22:18.24 | sceptiq^elive | that means? |
| 22:18.38 | roxville | sHR00m, the more you tell me that i don't know, the happier i get! |
| 22:18.41 | sHR00m | as far i know, everything you apt-get is stored on it |
| 22:18.56 | sceptiq^elive | oh n1 |
| 22:19.04 | sceptiq^elive | but u need 2 cdroms |
| 22:19.05 | sceptiq^elive | :D |
| 22:19.21 | sceptiq^elive | im running it with an reaaaaaaal oldscool laptop... |
| 22:19.35 | sceptiq^elive | im proud to say i have _A_ cdrom :D |
| 22:19.45 | roxville | lol, how ols? |
| 22:19.47 | sHR00m | i would use a dvd-rw =) |
| 22:19.49 | roxville | old |
| 22:19.52 | sceptiq^elive | hm |
| 22:20.01 | sceptiq^elive | mom |
| 22:20.09 | roxville | oohh... that's old |
| 22:21.04 | sceptiq^elive | ill make you a cat /poc/cpuinfo |
| 22:21.14 | sceptiq^elive | model name : Celeron (Mendocino) |
| 22:21.14 | sceptiq^elive | stepping : 10 |
| 22:21.14 | sceptiq^elive | cpu MHz : 366.594 |
| 22:21.14 | sceptiq^elive | cache size : 128 KB |
| 22:21.19 | sceptiq^elive | :DDDD |
| 22:21.25 | roxville | sHR00m, i don't get it, would it burn on the same dvd-rw you use for the elive system? |
| 22:21.58 | sHR00m | i wouldnt know why i need a cdrw if it isnt that way. maybe with packetwriting or so? |
| 22:22.04 | roxville | it's not THAT old, but...gives me a good guess of how old you are :) lol |
| 22:22.08 | sHR00m | oh mom |
| 22:22.23 | sceptiq^elive | roxville, i think your wrong ;) |
| 22:22.29 | sHR00m | yes.. of course only if its possible to burn an cd iso to a dvd |
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| 22:23.21 | sceptiq^elive | on this machine i dont understand if people say e17 is fast :D |
| 22:23.34 | roxville | lol |
| 22:23.40 | sceptiq^elive | :þ |
| 22:23.51 | roxville | hmmm maybe you can partition a dvd? |
| 22:23.51 | sceptiq^elive | nothing is "fast" |
| 22:24.47 | sceptiq^elive | i like to dream... |
| 22:24.52 | roxville | damn, family, never leave me alone, now i gotta go play frisbee with step son, bbl *sigh* |
| 22:25.01 | sceptiq^elive | ^^ |
| 22:25.03 | sceptiq^elive | hf |
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| 23:21.24 | reliver | hello roxville, thank you for the taskbar. |
| 23:21.43 | reliver | but hey, am i an "incident" now ? |
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| 23:50.05 | reliver | hello jnymo :) |
| 23:50.49 | jnymo | hi reliver |
| 23:50.55 | reliver | are you japanese ? |
| 23:51.07 | jnymo | no.. but I was born there ;) |
| 23:51.23 | reliver | nice. |
| 23:51.27 | jnymo | why? |
| 23:51.52 | reliver | the name sounds japanese and you were there with eshep today |
| 23:52.24 | jnymo | eh, nope.. plain old american |
| 23:52.41 | reliver | ny for newyork ? |
| 23:52.50 | jnymo | eh? |
| 23:52.56 | jnymo | where do you see that? |
| 23:52.57 | reliver | jnymo |
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| 23:53.06 | jnymo | oh |
| 23:53.12 | reliver | yes :) |
| 23:53.25 | jnymo | jeez, breaking it down aren't ya? |
| 23:53.36 | reliver | just associating :) |
| 23:54.07 | jnymo | no, that doesn't stand for new york.. but yea, I happen to be in new york |
| 23:54.24 | reliver | ah, second near miss ;) |
| 23:54.28 | reliver | by me. |
| 23:54.40 | jnymo | heh. good job ;) |
| 23:55.05 | reliver | no, coincidencies, many americans are in new york, right :) |
| 23:55.17 | reliver | especially many literate ones :-) |
| 23:55.54 | jnymo | hup.. you missed on that one.. |
| 23:56.05 | jnymo | ;) |
| 23:56.08 | reliver | why, are you not literate ? |
| 23:56.44 | jnymo | just kidding.. I'm well read, but have horrible spelling, most of the time :) |
| 23:56.53 | reliver | ah. |
| 23:57.09 | reliver | in chat it is hard to spot that. |
| 23:57.19 | jnymo | yea |
| 23:57.27 | reliver | horrible spelling ? |
| 23:57.34 | reliver | that would be different. |
| 23:57.44 | jnymo | Why? |
| 23:57.47 | reliver | i'm sure you saw real examples already ... |
| 23:58.04 | reliver | do you set high standards ? |
| 23:58.18 | reliver | teacher/academic family ? |
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| 23:59.10 | jnymo | well, like you said... it's hard to tell in chat |
| 23:59.23 | reliver | quidam saw me and fled ;) |
| 23:59.43 | jnymo | yes, though.. academic family ;) |
| 23:59.54 | reliver | yes, but it looks like you are setting high standards :-) |
| 23:59.56 | jnymo | you're good at this |
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