IRC log for #elinux on 20090122

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00:16.42flybackhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sp7daldn4w# <-- this looks so cool
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14:20.32gandhijeehey do i need to have a /dev/console entry created before even mdev/udev try to populate the device tree
14:22.10HcEmost likely, yes
14:22.18HcEand /dev/null is also nice to have
14:22.28gandhijeei'll just let mdev do that
14:30.19mnemocmake those two part of your image, or you may get "unexpected" content inside a /dev/null _file_ :)
14:30.56gandhijeeo
14:30.57gandhijeeok
14:38.06gandhijeeshould i let mdev recreate the /dev/console and null entries
14:38.07gandhijee?
14:38.39HcEI recommend having /dev as a tmpfs
14:38.49gandhijeeyeah i do
14:39.02HcEthen you do not need to worry
14:39.05gandhijeei'm using 64k of memory for i
14:39.06gandhijeet
14:39.25HcEjust mount a tmpfs on /dev, and it will be empty when you run mdev -s
14:39.40HcEuse tmpfs instead of ramfs
14:39.50gandhijeei am
14:39.53HcEthen you do not have to worry about allocating memory
14:40.07gandhijeeo
14:41.23gandhijeehow can i make my whole system run out of an initramfs?
14:41.35gandhijeeor do i have to make a ramdisk once its up and copy over to it
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17:06.31flybackhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Se3VdKd5Xw# <-- this is so cool :)
17:20.31mnemocgandhijee: you can run it from initramfs without any trouble
17:20.49flybackhas no one here used jtag on a amd elan?
17:20.58flybackis about to give up and just find a way to reflash the bios chips
17:21.18mnemocgandhijee: except that you will consume from memory the expanded size of the initramfs + normally consumed memory
17:22.15gandhijeemnemoc: i'm not understanding the last statement i don't think
17:22.31gandhijeeare you saying that it will consume the mem that its using for the initramfs
17:22.42gandhijeeand then consume more for the processes it starts?
17:22.46gandhijeeif so that is fine
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17:26.56mnemocgandhijee: yes, that is what I tried to say
17:27.11gandhijeeok
17:27.28gandhijeeand this also means i don't need to try to remount anything or do switch root magic
17:27.46gandhijeeafter thats done, how would my inittab be run? or would i spec that as a command line arg?
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18:05.04mnemocgandhijee: from the initramfs you will get /init run, if you want /sbin/init you have to `exec` it
18:05.47gandhijeeexec it from inside my /init?
18:05.55mnemocyup
18:06.12mnemocexec /sbin/init    :)
18:06.15gandhijeeso exec /sbin/init 6?
18:06.23mnemocehm
18:06.24gandhijeeas my last line
18:06.31gandhijeeof init
18:06.46mnemocthe '6' is used in sysvinit to request a reboot
18:06.56gandhijeewhoops
18:07.18gandhijeei meant 5
18:07.30gandhijeei guess i only really need to do 3 for what i am trying to do
18:08.04mnemocif your /sbin/init uses /etc/inittab, it will take the default level from there
18:08.48mnemocbut the idea of "runlevels" in an embedded system is odd
18:09.00mnemocat least to me
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18:31.37gandhijeei guess i shouldn't have said that
18:31.51gandhijeei'm using the init from busybox anyways so there are no real run levels
18:32.00gandhijeeit was just away to connect the idea in my head
18:34.07mnemoc:)
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19:15.24gandhijeeis there away to assign the IRQ and stuff to the /dev/ttyS* devices? i have 6 com ports on my board, but can only access the 2 onboard, and i don't have setserial
19:18.20mnemocgandhijee: get setserial ;-)
19:18.35gandhijeebah, ok
19:19.03gandhijeei guess if i wanted them to come up all the time without setserial, i would have to modify the kernel code that handles the serial ports
19:19.03gandhijee?
19:21.21mnemoci don't know if you do that using /etc/modprobe.conf
19:21.45mnemocfor me the right IRQ has always been detected
19:24.33gandhijeewell it seems to detect the first 2 no problem
19:24.38gandhijeebut doesn't seem to see the rest of it
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20:32.33tripzeroanybody fluent with umon (micromonitor) ?
20:33.00tripzeroas a bootloader for embedded linux?
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