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| 01:56.13 | Dr{Wh0} | anyone know anyone on buildroot list with svn access? |
| 01:57.16 | Dr{Wh0} | line 143 of target/linux/Makefile.in has a bad slash has \ needs to be / |
| 02:06.00 | RobotGuy | Dr{Wh0}: If all you want is to download the current svn of buildroot, anyone can do that. |
| 02:06.10 | Dr{Wh0} | no i want to have a bug fixed. |
| 02:06.30 | Dr{Wh0} | ulf submitted a patch rev 19671 it has an error well at least 1 i can see |
| 02:06.31 | RobotGuy | Dr{Wh0}: Ah, OK. There is a bug tracking thing you could use. |
| 02:07.01 | Dr{Wh0} | looks like its verrrrryy old so i wonder why its still a problem |
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| 02:18.55 | Dr{Wh0} | hmm maybe i didnt understand the line. It may work if its not a folder but a filename and the \* is a regex |
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| 02:38.07 | hd_chro | hello, everybody |
| 02:38.07 | hd_chro | I am newer on uclinux hack |
| 02:38.16 | hd_chro | I want to try uclinux on i386, but I cannot find right open when compiler uclinux kernel. |
| 02:38.16 | hd_chro | please help me, thanks |
| 02:38.16 | hd_chro | My uclinux package is uclinux-dist-20070130.tar.bz2, I do make menuconfig arch cannot found intel(i386) option |
| 02:38.16 | hd_chro | Should I modify some configure ? please help me, thanks |
| 02:39.25 | hd_chro | on uclinux kernel configure, I cannot find right option for support intel(i386) |
| 02:41.32 | hd_chro | I dig source, and I found arch/i386 directory, but on kernel configure, it have not related option |
| 02:42.26 | hd_chro | any help will be appreciated, thanks |
| 02:43.56 | Dr{Wh0} | hd_chro maybe also try #edev maybe someone there uses uClinux |
| 02:44.28 | hd_chro | thanks |
| 02:44.41 | Dr{Wh0} | also would be good to pastebin your actual messages |
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| 02:46.42 | hd_chro | what you mean, I donot understand, please said again |
| 02:47.02 | Dr{Wh0} | provide actual messages of your build errors |
| 02:47.16 | Dr{Wh0} | not "sudo" messages |
| 02:47.50 | hd_chro | ok, I know, I cannot find right option, so I cannot compile for i386 |
| 02:48.14 | Dr{Wh0} | ok so not so much an error as you cant even find the option to start to compile.. |
| 02:48.17 | hd_chro | you mean I try compile first |
| 02:48.19 | Dr{Wh0} | i wasnt sure. |
| 02:49.03 | Dr{Wh0} | ok but i dont think uCLinux is designed for i386? |
| 02:49.16 | Dr{Wh0} | its for cpu's with no MMU |
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| 02:49.45 | hd_chro | it sure, but I want cheap platform for try uclinux, so I think use i386 |
| 02:49.59 | Dr{Wh0} | hmm can i make a suggestion? |
| 02:50.09 | hd_chro | ok , please |
| 02:50.30 | Dr{Wh0} | ok not sure if its even possible but maybe QEMU can help by emulating such a processor as one used for uclinux |
| 02:51.35 | mnemoc | arm |
| 02:51.41 | Dr{Wh0} | http://www.uclinux.org/ports/ i just dont see any talk of i386 here. |
| 02:51.59 | RobotGuy | What is the MCU with the least RAM/Flash that uCLinux has been put on? |
| 02:52.16 | Dr{Wh0} | because it has an mmu and would be sort of against the point of uCLinux i am guessing. again i dont know this project. |
| 02:52.56 | hd_chro | but on emulation, if any question It would trouble debug, I am not sure, |
| 02:53.38 | hd_chro | I see a post for try uclinux on i386 , so I want to try |
| 02:54.03 | Dr{Wh0} | not sure robotguy. i have used ATMEGA128 and others. But thats not on there list.. i see AT91SAM |
| 02:54.17 | hd_chro | if it is impossible, I will try virtual machine |
| 02:55.53 | RobotGuy | Dr{Wh0}: I have two Renesas H8SX/1664 starter kits, and will soon have an SH7211 starter kit. |
| 02:56.25 | RobotGuy | I also have a couple of LPC2148 boards. |
| 02:56.54 | Dr{Wh0} | 24k of ram. that would be fun |
| 02:57.06 | RobotGuy | LPC2148 has 42KB RAM |
| 02:57.38 | Dr{Wh0} | i have done lots of fun stuff with ATMEGA128 using nutos but its amazing how little room you have left after loading any reasonable portion of nutos |
| 02:57.52 | RobotGuy | I have no doubt of that. |
| 02:58.21 | RobotGuy | What is nutos? I have been experimenting with FreeRTOS on my LPC2148 proto board. |
| 02:58.22 | Dr{Wh0} | they must have done tuns to strip the heck out of linux to fit on such chips. |
| 02:58.44 | Dr{Wh0} | nutos is a realtime multithreaded os / API |
| 02:58.58 | hd_chro | thanks Dr{Wh0} |
| 02:59.05 | RobotGuy | Do you have a link to it? Is it free or commercial? |
| 02:59.07 | Dr{Wh0} | has lots of libs to help in doing i2c talking to network chips etc |
| 02:59.11 | Dr{Wh0} | ya sure brb. |
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| 02:59.18 | Dr{Wh0} | ill pull it out of my wiki page |
| 02:59.24 | RobotGuy | Thanks |
| 03:00.06 | Dr{Wh0} | http://www.ethernut.de/en/software/index.html |
| 03:00.32 | Dr{Wh0} | originaly i loaded it with a jtag port but added a small bootloader later to load any updates via its serial port. |
| 03:00.53 | Dr{Wh0} | still trying to figure out if i can get enough of the code into a bootloader to load via the ethernet chip but its tight. |
| 03:01.33 | RobotGuy | I haven't done anything with AVRs yet. I've been doing PICs/dsPICs, and just recently got into ARM7 (LPC2k) and ARM9 (Hammer). |
| 03:01.41 | Dr{Wh0} | only like 512 bytes of asm code is all you get for the boot loader. but i was thining i could keep a second stage boot code library out in nvram to have the basic libs i need for talking to the network chip. |
| 03:02.04 | Dr{Wh0} | ya i made my choice. was going to do pic but decided to go avr |
| 03:02.10 | MonMotha | AVR is great, but not for Linux |
| 03:02.13 | RobotGuy | If you have a lot of flash, that might be usable for that. LPC2148 has 512 KB Flash. |
| 03:02.17 | MonMotha | though I guess there is AVR32 |
| 03:02.35 | RobotGuy | MonMotha: Greets. I want one of the NGW100 boards. |
| 03:02.50 | MonMotha | never heard of it |
| 03:03.05 | RobotGuy | It's the Atmel AVR32 development board. |
| 03:03.12 | MonMotha | oh |
| 03:03.20 | Dr{Wh0} | this is the board i use for my home automation projects |
| 03:03.22 | Dr{Wh0} | http://www.soc-machines.com/product/Amber_Specs/Amber_Processor.html |
| 03:03.38 | MonMotha | I'm curious why Atmel decided to invent a new arch rather than just use ARM |
| 03:03.41 | MonMotha | they are an ARM license |
| 03:03.42 | MonMotha | e |
| 03:03.44 | Dr{Wh0} | its just a clone of many other's same basic design of mcu and network chip + some extra stuff |
| 03:04.09 | MonMotha | though perhaps if it's more AVR than ARM, it won't have the errata their AT91 ARMs do :) |
| 03:04.11 | RobotGuy | MonMotha: That's a nice looking little board! I've been looking for a good Atmega128 board to start out with. |
| 03:04.33 | MonMotha | hum, dunno about what to get for something that big |
| 03:04.43 | Dr{Wh0} | be patient with that guy he takes a while to ship beyond that its all good. |
| 03:04.44 | MonMotha | anything that's available in DIP can be used on the STK500, which isn't overpriced |
| 03:04.53 | RobotGuy | MonMotha: Who knows, but I have wanted to work with the AVR32 since it was introduced - it's designed for multimedia. |
| 03:05.10 | Dr{Wh0} | WS168 is smaller |
| 03:07.44 | MonMotha | RobotGuy: indeed, it is |
| 03:07.57 | Dr{Wh0} | if you have a login on http://www.avrfreaks.net/ you can look at blips.. that is what i use to bootload new code just boot up and send a serial byte and the amber will begin downloading new program over the serial.. |
| 03:08.24 | MonMotha | heh, I have a JTAGICE |
| 03:08.29 | MonMotha | makes code downloads REALLY easy |
| 03:09.39 | Dr{Wh0} | ya but you have to put on the jtag port to program. i just plug in the serial on the amber to a box. or use ethernet->serial and i can program remotely. |
| 03:09.53 | RobotGuy | Dr{Wh0}: I have never been able to get an account on AVRFreaks. |
| 03:10.04 | Dr{Wh0} | ? |
| 03:10.27 | Dr{Wh0} | i dont think i did anything special to make one. |
| 03:10.31 | RobotGuy | I've never been able to get validated there. |
| 03:10.39 | RobotGuy | I don't get e-mails from some software. |
| 03:10.40 | Dr{Wh0} | hmm spam trap? |
| 03:10.50 | RobotGuy | No spam trap - I see all of it. |
| 03:11.00 | Dr{Wh0} | odd. gmail account : c ) |
| 03:11.21 | RobotGuy | No gmail or yahoo, etc. Real domain e-mail. I have 12 domains now. |
| 03:11.43 | Dr{Wh0} | did you see that gmail is now hosting email for your domains for free now. |
| 03:11.58 | RobotGuy | I didn't see that. I wonder what the catch is. |
| 03:12.33 | Dr{Wh0} | thay have more machines that GOD and want to keep them busy.. not sure if we should start worring about google taking over the world but maybe soon. |
| 03:13.52 | Dr{Wh0} | i need a good jtag debugger.. : ( i still debug via printf |
| 03:14.11 | Dr{Wh0} | whats the damage on that toy? |
| 03:14.49 | Dr{Wh0} | http://www.google.com/a/ for hosting your domain/domains on gmail's servers |
| 03:14.56 | RobotGuy | I still have to get ISP style e-mail working on my server so I can host all my domains for e-mail. |
| 03:15.06 | Dr{Wh0} | only catch is no store / forward unless you pay |
| 03:15.18 | Dr{Wh0} | but they allow imap |
| 03:15.43 | Dr{Wh0} | i have had to help a few friends move lately to that or others because comcast is killing all port 25 now. |
| 03:15.50 | RobotGuy | I may look at them for one of my domains that will expire soon. I don't care for the hoster it is on. |
| 03:16.18 | RobotGuy | Inbound AND outbound for comcast? |
| 03:16.20 | Dr{Wh0} | ya.. free is free seems to work ok so far. |
| 03:16.23 | Dr{Wh0} | ya both |
| 03:16.32 | RobotGuy | Comcast just sucks anyway. |
| 03:16.37 | Dr{Wh0} | they are doing it stealthy. |
| 03:16.47 | Dr{Wh0} | by area |
| 03:17.14 | RobotGuy | They must be trying to catch anyone running a secret server. |
| 03:17.38 | Dr{Wh0} | they will deny it if you ask the tech.. but its clear.. i host like 100+ domains for email and i have had more and more people call in with issues. |
| 03:17.59 | Dr{Wh0} | ya i expect thats part of it. |
| 03:18.08 | RobotGuy | I am not surprised that Comcast would do that. I refuse to pay them for ANY services. |
| 03:18.53 | RobotGuy | I have a cell phone as my only phone, DSL (6 MB/768 KB) for internet and no TV at present. |
| 03:20.08 | MonMotha | comcast is going to eventually piss ALL their customers off, not just the ones who they don't want anyway |
| 03:20.10 | Dr{Wh0} | im still trying to get off the copper. trying to link my office and home.. just need to get my yagi up higher and get a 400mw wireless card |
| 03:21.12 | Dr{Wh0} | ya. i dont think they told the tech support people. They are clueless or getting a clew slowly. they go through the trouble to look at the routers and see the block module is loaded but then go hmmmm why ill have to ask our security people to look at this and see why you were blocked. |
| 03:21.39 | Dr{Wh0} | then you get a bs email the next day |
| 03:21.54 | Dr{Wh0} | saying you had a virus |
| 03:23.52 | Dr{Wh0} | so then you ask ok i found it or i dont have one please unblock they ignore you or tell you to use a different port to send and they wont remove the block. |
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| 03:27.40 | Dr{Wh0} | i understand the need to keep the spammers down and viri etc. but why be covert about it? just say "Hay we need to do this" |
| 03:29.02 | RobotGuy | Yeah, I know. I just have to ask my ISP about stuff and they tell me straight out. |
| 03:36.57 | Dr{Wh0} | seems like a no brainer to me.. |
| 03:48.21 | Dr{Wh0} | ok well sysctl_check.c seems to be missing in the latest kernel i cant figure out where it went yet kdb patch wont apply blaa. ok time to get back to reality ... im out.. laterz.. |
| 03:49.59 | Dr{Wh0} | dho.. my bad wrong patch : c ) oh well tomarrows project.. |
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