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04:22.59*** topic/#elinux is Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || old wiki here: http://moin.eLinux.org/wiki/ please move your updates over to the new wiki || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc.
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06:29.33cdmevening
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07:07.46kergothhey cdm
07:07.48kergothhow ya been?
07:09.53flybackhi kergoth
07:10.05kergothheh, hey
07:10.28flybacklets put the past behind us ok?
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07:11.44flybackhave you seen futurelec yet?
07:11.54flybackdamn they have some cheap prices even on devel boards
07:11.59kergothlink?
07:12.04flybackI can get a dual +5 rs232 for $5
07:12.06flybacksure hang on
07:12.13flybackand a +3.3 one also
07:12.41flybackhttp://www.futurlec.com/
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07:13.16flybackhttp://www.futurlec.com/Mini_RS232_TTL_3V.shtml
07:13.22flybackhttp://www.futurlec.com/Mini_RS232_TTL_5V.shtml
07:13.30flybackI could afford that even before I got a real job in dec ;)
07:13.46flybackthey got a nice sd/mmc breakout for like $7
07:14.28kergoththat's cheap indeed. /me pokes around the site
07:14.45flybackhope it makes up for some of the bullshit I used to give you
07:14.48flybackthis is fishhead also btw
07:15.10flybackthey got a lot of insteresting stuff
07:15.22flybackhttp://www.futurlec.com/Mini_Opto_Isolator.shtml
07:15.23flybackmmmm
07:15.33flybackfor clutzes like me :P
07:16.06cdmkergoth -- been good man.
07:16.12flybackdamn
07:16.15kergothcdm, still over at apple?
07:16.18flybackhttp://www.futurlec.com/Mini_RS422.shtml
07:16.20flybackDAMN
07:16.25cdmyeah man -- been working on the iPhone
07:16.28kergothnice
07:16.28cdmlast 2 years
07:16.29kergothsounds fun
07:16.33flybackcdm good do me a favor
07:16.33cdmsuper fun
07:16.38flybackrape palm into the ground
07:16.51cdmnice!  Bay Area?
07:16.53flybackfreaking idiots had the whole market and they kept dropping th eball
07:17.02flybackkergoth good you always been pretty shapr
07:17.05flybackthey are lucky to have you
07:17.30kergothnaw, they've got a location out here in phoenix.  likely moving toward the east coast in a year or so, hopefully they let me telecommute.  gonna head toward the raleigh area, research triangle park and all that
07:17.43cdmthat is really great.
07:17.46cdmcongrats
07:17.58cdmI am looking foward to going around to the lines and taking pictures on the 29th. ;)
07:18.17kergothhehe
07:18.26flybackkergoth make sure you check their devel board section
07:18.33flybackthey got some cheap basic mcu boards pretty nice
07:20.49cdm29th will also be nice since I will be able to have my phone out in public and I won't have to hide it every time someone notices it. :)
07:20.57cdmbeen carrying mine since March.
07:21.06flybackcdm hahahaha
07:21.45flybackwhat's that? "uh it's from rosewell, can't talk about it
07:21.52flybackerr rosswell
07:22.02flybackwhatever the spelling is at 3am dammit!
07:22.48flybackanyways gonna head back to bed in a few mins, hope that sight helps kergoth
07:22.49flybackOH
07:22.52flybackone other thing you might like
07:23.32flybackhttp://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=12313
07:23.57flybackkinda small for a mp3 player etc but pretty big for a mcu etc to big bang to store logs etc
07:26.05cdmnah, I'm allowed to say it's an iPhone but that is pretty much all I can say.
07:26.18flyback:P
07:26.40flybackif it only crashes 10 times a day
07:26.45flybackyou already beat palm in stability
07:27.25cdmnice part about running a full UNIX on a phone -- if an App crashes, the system doesn't.
07:27.40flybackyeah is it based on mac os X?
07:28.04flybackif you can't speak about that, then just say :)
07:29.26cdmyeah --  we have said as much publically.
07:30.01flybackpalm had the whole damn market in their hand
07:30.09flybackbut they sat with their head up their ass so long
07:30.11cdmMobileBluetooth-54.2
07:30.13cdmcrap
07:30.19cdmhttp://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/osx.html
07:30.20flybackeven m$'s shitty ppc os got better
07:30.31flybackpalm has no one to blame but themselves
07:31.00flybackand since a large market of palm is going to be phone based, I hope you guys crush them
07:31.04cdmI run the wifi and bt parts of this slide...
07:31.04cdmhttp://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html
07:31.25flybackarm cpu right?
07:37.43cdmcan't say
07:43.36flybacknp :)
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12:46.09tzangeryes, palm is a real disappointment
12:46.14tzangerALP would be nice but I'm not holding my breath
12:46.40tzangerI actually bought a 700wx and while it does suck, compared to the palmos woes that I had with the 650 and 700p, it sucks less.
12:46.58tzangerMy current desire is to get a PalmOS5 emulator on the N800
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13:37.13fileack it's sjhill
13:37.47tzangerhello file
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14:07.54tzangerha
14:07.57tzangeryou're here too
14:13.31wmattzanger: uh, i was here when you found the channel
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14:46.08sjhillhey file
14:47.44chouimathi sjhill
14:54.11wmatbtw, the wiki is on a new server now, so if anyone notices anything that's broken, please let me know. Or just fix it ;)
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15:46.40sjhillhey chouimat!
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15:54.00tzangerthere, another 9 boards to test
15:54.13tzanger3 had power supply issues due to ICs soldered in backwards
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20:14.07anderseeTimRiker: howdy
20:16.22anderseeTimRiker: did you see this -- http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,665194896,00.html
20:16.24anderseeTimRiker: ?
20:17.05kergothhey andersee, how ya been?
20:17.14anderseekergoth: howdy
20:17.18anderseekergoth: not bad at all
20:17.42anderseekergoth: just got back from taking a vacation this past week
20:17.57anderseekergoth: took the family to disneyland, legoland, the beach, etc
20:18.07anderseekergoth: sure beats working
20:18.11anderseekergoth: :-)
20:19.32kergothnice :)
20:20.19anderseekergoth: so what are you up to these days?
20:21.30kergothoh not too much, melting in pheonix... lowest temp in the 10 day forecast is 107
20:21.37kergothjust got a job over at mvista, will see how that goes
20:21.48anderseehmm, sounds fun
20:22.29andersee:-)
20:22.37anderseemoving then?
20:22.43anderseeor telecommuting?
20:23.47Croftonwhen do you start?
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20:42.13poschanybody has problems with busybox's "adduser" not working and complaining about "passwd: unknown user"?
20:43.18kergothandersee, mv has an office in the phoenix area :)
20:43.23kergothCrofton, a week from yesterday
20:43.33Croftoncool
20:43.56Croftonwill you get to keep your current desk?
20:44.41poschis mv marvel?
20:44.50Croftonmonta vista
20:44.54poschah
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20:53.30TimRikerandersee: yeah, heard about it. very odd indeed. not normal bear behavior.
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