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| 01:52.58 | ljp | the openezx guys reporting some moto phones have sd module built into kernel. :) |
| 01:53.28 | CosmicPenguin | Lots of people do, I think |
| 01:53.30 | CosmicPenguin | or at least modules |
| 01:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | like our fscked up driver monstrosity |
| 01:53.47 | ljp | they report it not a module |
| 01:53.51 | CosmicPenguin | ugh |
| 01:54.04 | CosmicPenguin | with a passion |
| 01:54.06 | ljp | which means they have have to gpl it |
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| 02:46.21 | MonMotha | ljp: or stop distributing it (and possibly recall the ones in existance)... |
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| 09:11.29 | likewise | #join #edev |
| 09:11.42 | likewise | yeah whatever :-) |
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| 12:39.46 | prpplague | anyone got experience doing network drivers? |
| 12:50.21 | YazzY | wee! |
| 12:50.29 | YazzY | return EXIT_SUCCESS; |
| 12:59.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:59.06 | prpplague | lo |
| 12:59.20 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 13:22.48 | prpplague | sure wish i could find someone who has some experience with network drivers |
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| 13:27.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: bo |
| 13:27.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: you do any network drivers? |
| 13:27.54 | GPSFan | prpplague: hola.. |
| 13:28.02 | GPSFan | no. |
| 13:28.13 | GPSFan | sorry, |
| 13:28.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: know anybody on irc that does? |
| 13:29.05 | GPSFan | well, not really.. |
| 13:29.15 | prpplague | me either :( |
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| 14:57.13 | prpplague | sjhill: bo! |
| 14:57.41 | prpplague | sjhill: hey, can you give me the top 3 reasons eth_type_trans would cause a kernel oops? |
| 14:57.52 | sjhill | prpplague: bo bobob bobob bobobobo |
| 14:58.00 | sjhill | i hate that cartoon |
| 14:58.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:58.48 | sjhill | prpplague: not really |
| 14:59.02 | sjhill | i haven't touched deep into net drivers in a loooong time |
| 14:59.03 | prpplague | bummer |
| 14:59.05 | sjhill | i'm no help |
| 14:59.08 | sjhill | yeah, sorry |
| 14:59.28 | prpplague | sjhill: i hate it when everything "looks right" and doesn't work |
| 15:00.01 | prpplague | i'm getting a "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address" |
| 15:00.22 | sjhill | so track that address down |
| 15:00.27 | prpplague | which makes me think something isn't setup properly |
| 15:07.55 | likewise | prpplague: what Ethernet device are you writing a driver for? |
| 15:08.35 | chouimat | She was in the kitchen doing the boiled eggs for breakfast. |
| 15:08.39 | chouimat | He walks in and asks "What's for breakfast?" |
| 15:08.43 | chouimat | She turns to him and says, "You've got to make love to me this |
| 15:08.47 | chouimat | very moment". |
| 15:08.47 | chouimat | He, thinking it's his lucky day, lays her over the kitchen table |
| 15:08.47 | chouimat | and they have sex. |
| 15:08.47 | chouimat | Afterwards he says, "What was that all about?" |
| 15:08.48 | chouimat | She says "The egg timer's broken!" |
| 15:08.48 | chouimat | hey sjhill |
| 15:17.41 | prpplague | likewise: i have three that are all working the same |
| 15:17.51 | prpplague | likewise: but the one i am testing with is the enc28j60 |
| 15:18.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 15:18.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats up? |
| 15:18.48 | CosmicPenguin | too much work, too little bee5r |
| 15:19.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:20.01 | prpplague | amen |
| 15:27.27 | prpplague | hmm, looks like a skb_pull is causing it |
| 15:28.23 | prpplague | hmm |
| 15:28.27 | prpplague | even more interesting |
| 15:28.49 | prpplague | looks like my net_device doesn't look to being passed properly |
| 15:29.25 | CosmicPenguin | bad pointers? |
| 15:32.24 | prpplague | sounds like it |
| 15:32.37 | prpplague | but not sure where its getting mangled |
| 15:33.33 | sjhill | hey chouimat |
| 15:34.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: definetly a bad pointer, just not why |
| 15:34.12 | CosmicPenguin | Is it a stack pointer? |
| 15:34.17 | CosmicPenguin | I've done that before |
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| 15:55.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: in the irq handler where i'm getting the dev_id |
| 15:56.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which is suppose to type cast into a net_device * |
| 15:57.44 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... |
| 15:57.50 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like the register_irq got confused |
| 15:59.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: in what way? |
| 15:59.35 | CosmicPenguin | it got a bad pointer? |
| 15:59.54 | CosmicPenguin | I'm back-seat coding |
| 16:00.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 16:05.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: weheeeee |
| 16:05.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep that was it |
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| 16:16.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well its pinging |
| 16:17.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but the stuff like telnet and ftp don't seem to be working |
| 16:17.09 | CosmicPenguin | Well, thats something to be proud of |
| 16:18.37 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:18.39 | prpplague | yea |
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| 16:19.08 | sjhill | prpplague: could you give you MAC address pls, for the ethernet controller |
| 16:21.45 | prpplague | sjhill: ?? |
| 16:22.56 | sjhill | work with me here |
| 16:23.05 | sjhill | what is the MAC address of your ethernet controller |
| 16:24.23 | prpplague | hehe, i'm using string "OFFICE" as the mac |
| 16:24.47 | CosmicPenguin | evil |
| 16:25.02 | sjhill | *sigh* |
| 16:25.11 | sjhill | what are the two upper octets pls |
| 16:25.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my other test one is DE:AD:00:00:BE:AF |
| 16:26.07 | sjhill | prpplague: change the O to be 00 and then try your ping and telnet |
| 16:26.09 | prpplague | sjhill: 4f:46 |
| 16:26.20 | sjhill | 4f -> 00 and try |
| 16:26.21 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh doh |
| 16:26.28 | prpplague | silly me |
| 16:26.50 | sjhill | there's this thing called multicast |
| 16:27.41 | prpplague | yea, still me |
| 16:27.52 | prpplague | i should have known that |
| 16:28.05 | sjhill | so it works now? |
| 16:28.26 | prpplague | sjhill: loading the module now |
| 16:28.46 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:28.51 | prpplague | good to go |
| 16:28.53 | sjhill | ok then |
| 16:29.20 | prpplague | sjhill: thanks, owe ya a beer, |
| 16:29.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you too |
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| 16:30.10 | prpplague | should be better next time |
| 16:30.12 | sjhill | np |
| 16:33.06 | prpplague | doh |
| 16:33.07 | prpplague | swap_dup: Bad swap file entry c58f1ea4 |
| 16:38.15 | mindfunk | prpplague: how goes it? |
| 16:38.25 | mindfunk | prpplague: board with the islands yet? |
| 16:38.34 | prpplague | mindfunk: been board for about 9 months hehe |
| 16:38.38 | prpplague | mindfunk: not too bad |
| 16:46.45 | prpplague | hmm, my network driver seems to be messing with my serial console |
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| 16:53.43 | kergoth | "In particular, Quinn blames the 'sandal and ponytail set' for sluggish adoption of Linux by businesses and governments." .. haw |
| 16:55.10 | likewise | kergoth: we hire Linux guys and I don't care about that, but I can imagine upper management in some companies raise their eyebrowns when the expert walks in :-) |
| 16:55.24 | likewise | -n |
| 16:55.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:56.53 | prpplague | one of the reasons i got my job aml was because of my business like appears, most of the other applicants were the "sandal and ponytail set" |
| 16:58.05 | likewise | yes, it really depends on the people hiring you. |
| 16:58.58 | likewise | Personally I find communication skills very important, and clothing only for the engineers visiting customers. |
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| 17:01.36 | cantona | anyone know where can buy SmartARM2200? |
| 17:03.55 | prpplague | what is it? |
| 17:05.35 | cantona | http://www.jtagice.com/pro_imagemx/SmartARM2200.jpg |
| 17:07.47 | prpplague | interesting looking board |
| 17:07.51 | prpplague | never heard of it |
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| 17:11.46 | kergoth | prpplague: hehe. i didnt start wearing my lip ring or style my hair normally until i'd been working here for a couple weeks :P |
| 17:12.24 | file | kergoth, your look is so... interesting |
| 17:12.30 | kergoth | :P |
| 17:14.39 | prpplague | these network drivers have totally worn me out |
| 17:14.46 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe |
| 17:19.03 | prpplague | i'm getting so old |
| 17:20.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the new version of the enc28j60 driver will be available probably around april15 |
| 17:20.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got some cleanup and such |
| 17:20.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its 2.4 right now |
| 17:20.32 | CosmicPenguin | looking forward to it |
| 17:20.47 | CosmicPenguin | They announced that it will be on our SPI validation daughter board, and I instantly got 3 e-mail messages from around the wrold |
| 17:20.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: recon you'll be able to move it forward to 2.6 ? |
| 17:20.55 | CosmicPenguin | "We don't have drivers for that!!!!!" |
| 17:20.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: definately |
| 17:21.05 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:21.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'll update it to 2.6 and port it forward to the SPI framework |
| 17:21.17 | prpplague | cool beans |
| 17:21.21 | CosmicPenguin | I might even get it up and running on the ol' db1200 too |
| 17:21.29 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:22.17 | CosmicPenguin | I have so much to do |
| 17:22.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this spi validation daughter board, that for the new product line? |
| 17:22.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you and me both |
| 17:22.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its for the Geode |
| 17:22.53 | CosmicPenguin | But like I said, most of that sort of spills over into the Alchemy world too |
| 17:22.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all the major stuff is getting done, but i have million little issues that need to be addressed |
| 17:23.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are the specs of the spi board available? |
| 17:23.23 | CosmicPenguin | Nah - probably won't ever be released |
| 17:23.30 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:23.55 | prpplague | so i assume the 3 emails were from amd staff then |
| 17:24.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, the enc28j60 datasheet is very complete, but extremely disorganized |
| 17:25.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh, somafm.com has a new channel, "spaced out" |
| 17:25.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: pretty good |
| 17:30.44 | CosmicPenguin | My problem is that we don't have any junior engineers around |
| 17:30.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the current code has the machine specific functions in the same file, i'm gonna be moving that out |
| 17:30.55 | CosmicPenguin | I really really really need somebody to smoke test these damn kernels |
| 17:31.03 | file | hrm? |
| 17:31.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea |
| 17:31.14 | CosmicPenguin | I hate the idea of sending out patches without booting them |
| 17:31.28 | CosmicPenguin | But I want to get them out in the open |
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| 17:32.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this is gonna sound lame ( i'm too tired and you seem to know about it) got a url for the spi framework for 2.6? |
| 17:32.26 | CosmicPenguin | It was in GregKH's git tree |
| 17:32.30 | CosmicPenguin | but its in 2.6.16 stable |
| 17:32.36 | CosmicPenguin | now |
| 17:32.56 | likewise | prpplague: How are you accessing the Eth chip now then? Bitbanging the SPI ? |
| 17:33.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
| 17:33.54 | likewise | CosmicPenguin: You @ AMD Alchemy support? |
| 17:34.02 | CosmicPenguin | likewise: sure.. :) |
| 17:34.35 | prpplague | likewise: spi controler |
| 17:34.43 | likewise | CosmicPenguin: cool. How do your collegeas react when they see you on IRC for your work? |
| 17:34.57 | CosmicPenguin | Hopefully they're cool with it |
| 17:35.29 | likewise | Yeah, same here. Once a manager comes round I have to explain this is often time well spent. |
| 17:35.39 | CosmicPenguin | Its part of my job description to be here - I am the community contact for the Geode and Alchemy platforms |
| 17:36.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, you know if there is a api doc yet? |
| 17:36.43 | likewise | CosmicPenguin: Well, I am at a small company here, we chose for Linux for much of our new stuff and I am lead there. But it takes some work to get collegeas used to the community development model. |
| 17:36.50 | likewise | gotta go eat now. |
| 17:40.57 | prpplague | ok if ya'll here a loud pop, don't be alarmed, its just my head exploding |
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| 18:20.57 | prpplague | argh, i hate it when i get migrains |
| 18:21.59 | prpplague | anyone doing dual lcd screens for their desktop? |
| 18:22.51 | CosmicPenguin | Not yet |
| 18:22.58 | CosmicPenguin | I'm waiting for our new budget to come in |
| 18:24.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've been considering it for awhile |
| 18:24.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was just gonna get two standard lcd's |
| 18:24.58 | CosmicPenguin | I have one 21inch LCD right now |
| 18:24.59 | CosmicPenguin | its great |
| 18:25.14 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:29.19 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: a while ago my wife & I got rid of all our crt's, nothing but LCD's now. 3 15", 1 16", 1 17", and 1 19". more room on the desk, lower power (heat) and wasier to move around to projects that migrate to the floor for lack of desk/bench space.. |
| 18:29.42 | GPSFan_ | s/wasier/easier |
| 18:29.53 | prpplague | GPSFan_: hehe yea |
| 18:30.05 | prpplague | GPSFan_: i was just thinking about using two standard lcds |
| 18:30.18 | prpplague | GPSFan_: not sure if it would improve work |
| 18:30.36 | GPSFan_ | the other advantage is that the cat can't sit on the top of the nice warm monitor (and barf). |
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| 18:31.48 | prpplague | GPSFan_: yea, this 15inch does well, but if i were to try to do two lcd's i'd want to but two so they were the same |
| 18:31.48 | GPSFan_ | I think it improves your work environment, even at 75hz, I can still see crt's flicker. not so with my lcd's at 60hz. |
| 18:32.03 | CosmicPenguin | Plus it makes your desktop so much cleaner |
| 18:32.11 | prpplague | GPSFan_: sorry i mean, i have a 15inch lcd |
| 18:32.21 | prpplague | GPSFan_: i was thinking of do dual screens |
| 18:32.27 | GPSFan_ | all of mine are different. some cheap, some not. |
| 18:32.45 | prpplague | GPSFan_: you are doing multiple lcds on the same desktop? |
| 18:33.08 | GPSFan_ | dual screens for a single workstation are great. even 2 crt's improve things, but lcd's are the right answer. |
| 18:33.44 | prpplague | GPSFan_: you using two seperate video cards? or one of those with dual output? |
| 18:35.11 | prpplague | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CRD10178 |
| 18:35.12 | GPSFan_ | I currently don't ahve a dual monitor setup, but have run Win98 with 2 monitors (2 cards) and MacOS 9 with 2 monitors (1 builtin, 1 pci card) |
| 18:35.25 | prpplague | ahh |
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| 18:45.56 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: nice card. |
| 18:46.14 | prpplague | GPSFan_: yea i found a howto for it as well |
| 18:46.31 | prpplague | GPSFan_: seems pretty well supported in linux with matrox binary only drivers |
| 18:55.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: will you be submitting the enc28j60 2.6 driver to the main tree? |
| 18:56.14 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: hmm, binary only drivers ;>( As I look at it again it's AGP, so not useful on non x86 platforms. so I guess binary only drivers are not quite as bad. |
| 18:56.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can if you want, or I can send it back to you and you can do the honors |
| 18:57.58 | CosmicPenguin | Just your code... :) |
| 18:58.56 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:59.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well the 2.6 driver really wouldn't be mine |
| 19:07.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i might attempt to do the 2.6 driver |
| 19:07.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the spi framework looks nice |
| 19:07.36 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't it? |
| 19:09.05 | CosmicPenguin | Doesn't do slave though |
| 19:11.27 | prpplague | it will take some getting used to |
| 19:11.41 | prpplague | i'm used to having pretty close control over the spi interface |
| 19:12.02 | prpplague | the docs are still alittle vague |
| 21:51.53 | CosmicPenguin | YAY! |
| 21:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | Somebody added a GX framebuffer last week |
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| 22:29.37 | CosmicPenguin | ARGH |
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| 23:22.46 | pigeon | anyone here familiar with u-boot? |
| 23:26.44 | sjhill | you better have read the email archives for u-boot and googled before you ask anything or i'll kick you so fast you're head will spin |
| 23:27.32 | sjhill | but we really like to help people here, so ask away |
| 23:31.16 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 23:33.51 | pigeon | yeah... yet another RTFM for me just now. |
| 23:34.10 | pigeon | (of course, you need make uImage for u-boot, it's so obvious...) |
| 23:34.15 | pigeon | ;) |
| 23:38.35 | sjhill | glad i cold help |
| 23:38.39 | sjhill | could |
| 23:39.37 | CosmicPenguin | Dude aren't you cool? |
| 23:39.45 | pigeon | yeah... i was reading the wiki manual, disappointed with something missing in it, but still quite a good manual. |
| 23:40.26 | kergoth | netvibes.com is nifty |
| 23:43.16 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: no you don't |
| 23:43.25 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: yeah, you're right |
| 23:43.31 | CosmicPenguin | What the hell was I thinking? |
| 23:44.18 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: this poster describes me as well -> http://www.despair.com/burnout.html |
| 23:45.47 | sjhill | but this one is truly my ex-wife -> http://www.despair.com/destiny.html |
| 23:46.32 | sjhill | i got to go |
| 23:46.37 | *** join/#elinux thraxisp (n=thraxisp@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-183.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 23:46.40 | sjhill | i'm spewing worthless dirbble |
| 23:46.45 | sjhill | and tpying bladly |
| 23:49.22 | kergoth | i still want http://www.despair.com/compromise.html |
| 23:53.13 | CosmicPenguin | I would buy it, but my negative attitude has been flaged as an area "of personal growth" in my yearly review |
| 23:56.40 | file[laptop] | hahahaha |
| 23:57.06 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.despair.com/limitations.html |
| 23:57.08 | CosmicPenguin | I have that one |
