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05:15.47varunvarun how can I build it so that I can compile my code using ncurses in busybox
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13:08.13prpplaguehmm, buildroot patches and bugs seem to be hanging out there for a long time
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13:44.11prpplaguehehe virgin atlantic just started a new service from manchester to barbados this week
13:44.24prpplaguesuppose to be just 100quid for a round trip
13:47.27m4lu7spirit airlines did a special promotion last week, $9 each way, Orlando FL -> Mo-bay Jamaica.
13:48.25prpplaguem4lu7: hehe
13:48.49prpplaguem4lu7: yea, funny thing is that from miami to barbdos is almost $1000
13:49.11prpplaguem4lu7: most of the flights from the UK to barbados are less that $250
13:49.31m4lu7i just got back to FL from a week in Jamaica. paid $100 round trip. i could've saved that $91 on more ganja.
13:49.59prpplaguem4lu7: uh, i wouldn't know about that
13:50.17m4lu7ok ok. guiness, then ;)
13:50.30prpplaguem4lu7: i'll buy that for a dollar
13:50.47m4lu7no, $100J. about $1.20
13:51.04m4lu775J for a redstripe.
13:51.09prpplaguem4lu7: hehe, thats a line from a movie
13:51.34m4lu7right.
13:51.38m4lu7robocop. i know.
13:51.38prpplaguem4lu7: hehe, i have about 50 stamps from jamaica in my passport, hehe
13:51.55m4lu7just thought i'd factor in inflation since 1987
13:52.10prpplaguem4lu7: the carib and bahamas were my service terroritory for almost 5 years
13:53.07m4lu7not bad. could've been stuck with Khazakstan.
13:54.05prpplaguem4lu7: been to almost every island, including cuba(but no passport stamp to prove it!)
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14:08.40prpplaguesjhill: ho ho ho
14:08.58sjhillprpplague: Merry Christmas!
14:09.10prpplaguesjhill: you have buildroot access, mind looking at the patches i've submitted?
14:09.18sjhilli saw them
14:09.23prpplaguesjhill: ahh
14:09.29sjhilli have to release to Broadcom a week from today
14:09.39prpplaguesjhill: ahh.
14:09.40sjhillso, i won't have time until next week
14:09.51sjhillif you can wait that long, i would be more than happy to look at them
14:09.57prpplaguesjhill: ok, so should i expect them to be added?
14:10.02sjhillprobably, yes
14:10.31prpplaguesjhill: those patches were just kind of test balloons to determine wether i should spend the time submitting them
14:11.05prpplaguesjhill: i've added 3 more arm boards and the apex bootloader
14:11.13sjhillcool
14:11.15prpplaguesjhill: just kinda waiting to see what happens
14:16.34prpplaguesjhill: you vapier and andersee the only ones reviewing patches?
14:22.22sjhillvapier and psm mostly
14:22.25m4lu7so, i've seen vague mention of buildroot & linux kernel, as in building kernel within buildroot system.... what is this about?
14:23.08m4lu7i've seen nothing indicating kernel compile is done from within buildroot. am I misinterpreting various forum postings, or is there a facility for this ?
14:23.23sjhillyou asked this last week and you got an answer
14:23.33sjhillprpplague: kindly hand me ops, will you?
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14:24.12m4lu7eh?
14:24.24prpplaguem4lu7: the linux kernel is nothing more than another program with a make file
14:24.39prpplaguem4lu7: the amd au1500 has a great example for doing a linux kernel
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14:25.21sjhillm4lu7: what prpplague said
14:27.44m4lu7ah.
14:32.36ade|deskwith ops given to mips boy, i was waiting to see something fun happen ... alas no ... :'( sniff
14:34.26m4lu7i thought he was about to kick me. perhaps he realized i was in jamaica, from scrollback, and thus couldn't have asked that question last week ;)
14:34.51sjhillade|desk: yeah, it's Monday...i shouldn't be so cranky with people
14:35.05sjhillso then i have to ask myself, what would Ulrich Drepper do, since he's my new idol
14:35.33m4lu7probably kick me.
14:35.47sjhillyeah probably so
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14:36.07sjhillthat was strangely theraputic
14:36.13m4lu7do not taunt happy fun ball
14:36.20sjhillcorrect
14:36.32sjhillprpplague: pull my ops, i've torchered m4lu7 long enough
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14:38.41ade|deskboo
14:39.15prpplagueade|desk: hoo
14:39.44ade|desk~guinness prpplague
14:40.02ade|deskgrr
14:40.06ade|desk~lart self
14:40.42prpplagueade|desk: the guinness option has been deleted for some reason, i need to readd it
14:40.57ade|deskindeed , guinness for all
14:41.59m4lu7hot guiness. $20J less than cool guiness.
14:43.30chouimatmorning
14:43.40ade|desk26 years of drinking guinness, this new 'guinness extra cold' just isn't right i tell you
14:44.06chouimathehe
14:44.39m4lu7what's this "extra cold", dipped in liquid nitrogen?
14:47.17prpplaguem4lu7: actually has a nitrogen widget in the tin or bottle
14:47.29prpplaguem4lu7: suppose to give it good draft taste
14:47.39prpplagueade|desk: not found of it myself
14:50.44m4lu7i tried it, thought the gizmo would choke me. i'll stick to stout, thanks.
14:51.11prpplaguem4lu7: hehe, not suppose to drink it from the bottle or tin
14:51.23prpplaguem4lu7: suppose to pour it into a pint glass
14:52.41m4lu7that just reeks of snobbery (or so i'm told)
14:53.37m4lu7i drink my weissbier from glass, though.
14:53.44prpplaguem4lu7: hehe
15:00.21chouimathi prpplague
15:00.46prpplaguechouimat: howdy
15:03.29prpplagueugh, i have a ton of work to do
15:07.46chouimathmmmm I love  thissong
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16:12.11prpplagueugh ugh ugh
16:12.21prpplaguei can't seem to get started on the bootloader code
16:19.09T0mWmorning
16:19.41prpplagueT0mW: hey
16:20.33T0mWprpplague: just having the first coffee, feel like I got drunk last night -- and I dont' drink!
16:22.19T0mWlooks like newlib has a problem with ftell(), the value it returns is wrong
16:23.32T0mWfseek() 200 bytes into a 1000 byte file, then read the rest of the file to the EOF, and ftell() says that your position is 800bytes
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16:41.42CosmicPenguinWhatup boys?
16:46.07T0mWnot the leaves on the trees, their all on the ground this morning
16:46.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ssdd
16:46.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: bootloader porting today
16:47.11T0mWprpplague: sometimes you have to do the bad work along with the good stuff, eh?
16:47.45T0mWprpplague: notice I said "do the bad" not "do bad"
16:49.45prpplagueT0mW: oh i love the bootloader stuff
16:49.58prpplagueT0mW: just can;t seem to get a flow going on porting apex to the s3c2410
16:50.14T0mWsomehow it seems that today is Friday and not a Monday
16:50.51T0mWprpplague: maybe work on something else for a while, I usually do that when I get stuck
16:51.19T0mWprpplague: the file read seems to be working okay now.
16:51.49T0mWprpplague: that BDI2000 JTAG unit has been well worth the investment!
16:53.07T0mWprpplague: how you doing your development? poke-n-hope or did they give you JTAG debugger to use?
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17:06.05CosmicPenguinGPSFan: how are things on the west bank?
17:07.11GPSFanCosmicPenguin: hi, weather's beautiful, need some snow. how's by you?
17:08.27prpplagueT0mW: i have a lugterbach, and several other jtag apps
17:08.56sjhilllauterbach rocks
17:09.16CosmicPenguinGPSFan: weather is great, a little windy, and snow expected later this week
17:09.37CosmicPenguinWindy sucks when you are trying to play disc golf
17:10.19CosmicPenguinThis weekend we played in some really bad wind - its funny how the disc does really funky things in heavy wind
17:10.26CosmicPenguinif the wind is behind you, the sucker will drop like a stone
17:11.17CosmicPenguinIf the wind is in your face, and the disc is designed to spin into the direction that the wind is coming from, then it does this really funky wabble
17:11.33CosmicPenguinAnd if the bottom of the disk catches the wind, then its buh-bye birdy
17:12.56GPSFangives a whole new meaning to the term "birdie" ;>)
17:16.45GPSFanCosmicPenguin: got my #1 Zipit actually doing useful work, running the backhaul of a weather station. solar powered, it's in testing now, uptime 2 weeks.
17:17.01GPSFanhttp://www.paonia.com/~kenm/Pix/?dir=images/Zipit/Weather
17:26.13CosmicPenguinGPSFan: wow - fun
17:27.08CosmicPenguinIts wired?
17:27.47CosmicPenguinThats wicked cool
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17:33.46GPSFanCosmicPenguin: the station is based on a Campbell Scientific CR10x datalogger and Campbell Scientific sensors. The Zipit provides a wireless SSH connection to the net as well as a custom software program to extract the data from the CR10x.
17:35.15GPSFanthe origina system had a cell phone backhaul which cosn $$/month. the Zipit based backhaul depends on our local wireless ISP.
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17:41.28CosmicPenguinoh - cool.  I saw the wires, but I guess they're just power
17:41.33CosmicPenguinThats a bad ass little system
17:41.42CosmicPenguinMind if I ask you what it cost?
17:42.47T0mWheh
17:45.38GPSFanCosmicPenguin: the 2 sets of wires are for power, and the serial connection to the datalogger. There will be another wire in the system when it's deployed, external antenna. I "inherited" the station, but cost new is ~$3kUS.
17:45.47CosmicPenguinwow
17:46.06file[laptop]geek.
17:46.46CosmicPenguinSee, why don't I have the energy to do that?
17:46.54CosmicPenguinI have got to stop leaving it all on the floor at work
17:47.14GPSFanthe original project ate up all their funding paying monthly cell phone bills.
17:56.51T0mWfreakin' idiot (l)users
17:57.14T0mWdummy keeps deleting the mailbox
18:18.04prpplagueug ug ug, doing the initial setup for the bootloader is soooo tedious
18:44.47CosmicPenguinthe biggest problem with Gentoo is that constantly emerging has a tendency to change things right out from underneath you
18:44.56CosmicPenguinThen, you reboot your box some months later, and boom, everything stops working
18:46.17CosmicPenguinespecially if your original http config was based purely on luck
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19:17.23CMD6510I have uClinux on my palm ^_^!
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19:24.10Masta-Ghey
19:24.20Masta-GLinux on my dreamcast works well
19:24.30CMD6510linux on my palm is gay ^_^
19:24.31CMD6510heh
19:24.38CMD6510I wana put linux on my dreamcast :-(
19:24.42Masta-Gbut when running the S40network it will do this
19:24.46Masta-Grun-parts: failed to open directory /etc/network/if-pre-up.d: No such
19:24.46Masta-Gfile or directory
19:25.20Masta-Gwww.linux-sh.org
19:25.58Masta-Gbut anyways its right about the /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
19:26.01Masta-Git doesnt exisit
19:26.28Masta-Gwhat should I put for it if I only want it to up the lo device
19:26.30jbevrenCMD6510: I dont think the 6510 ever bore the CMD stamp.  MOS produced it ;)
19:26.57CMD6510>.<!!! IT WAS JUST SO PEOPLE WOULD GET ITTTTT
19:26.58CMD6510hehe
19:26.59CMD6510fine.
19:27.10CBM6510better?
19:27.20Masta-G# ./S40network start
19:27.21Masta-GStarting network...
19:27.21Masta-Grun-parts: failed to open directory /etc/network/if-pre-up.d: No such
19:27.21Masta-Gfile or directory
19:27.49Masta-Ggoogle couldnt help me out and on my host (fedora core 3) i dont have the /etc/network folder
19:28.22CBM6510bbl folks ^_^
19:33.16prpplagueT0mW: hey you awake?
19:36.14T0mWprpplague: yeah
19:36.37T0mWprpplague: doing newsgroup messages right now
19:38.42prpplagueT0mW: mvn r2, 0xff000000  , what's in r2 after?
19:39.25T0mWair?
19:39.58T0mWprpplague: ARM asm gives me a headache reading it, so I avoid doing so
19:40.04prpplagueT0mW: ahh ok
19:41.27T0mWprpplague: one of the reasons for going with the LPC2xxx series was that the performance was high enough that I could write all my code in C.  The old codebase was 30% 8051 assembler. :-(
19:42.13T0mWprpplague: heh, you ask a question about ARM asm and Erik logs off
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19:45.21prpplaguehehe
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20:44.07CosmicPenguin~lart git
20:46.07prpplaguearhg, i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong here
21:16.37mindfunk~pester weo1
21:16.46mindfunk~pester Wingnut
21:16.48mindfunkhrm
21:17.02mindfunk~lart weo1
21:17.06mindfunk~lart Wingnut
21:17.10mindfunksorry weo1
21:34.33chouimathttp://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html
22:26.11CosmicPenguinstupid git
22:26.20CosmicPenguinif they set out to make it complicated, then mission accomplished
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23:04.02CosmicPenguinBut it is pretty damn slick
23:04.04CosmicPenguinwhen it works
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