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00:38.59sorphinand everyone just disappears, heh
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00:47.12sorphinfile: eep
00:47.33file...
00:47.37sorphinheh
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01:03.03sorphin~kill file
01:03.08ibotACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-meson gun at file
01:03.12sorphin:P
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01:10.28sorphinsjhill: evening
01:15.37sjhillhey sorphin
01:15.55sorphinfile killed me
01:17.12sjhillwhat'd you say?
01:18.26jbevrenwhat you say?
01:18.40jbevrensomebody set us up the bomb
01:18.58jbevrenhmm
01:18.59jbevrenI said that wrong
01:19.59sjhillstupid Iowian
01:22.33sorphinAll Your MIPS Are Belong To sjhill
01:22.56sjhilli can insult him like that because i'm like 1-1/2 hours away in the same state
01:22.58sorphinjbevren: get that thing fixed?
01:23.16sorphinyep
01:23.39sjhillwell poop
01:23.46sjhilltime to rip more code
01:23.51sorphinsjhill: yeah
01:24.22sjhillDear glibc, you suck. Sincerely, sjhill
01:24.43sorphinhehe
01:25.13sorphin"Dearest MIPS, I adore you! You're everything I ever wanted in a CPU! Love, sjhill"
01:25.26sjhill:-)
01:31.13sorphinsjhill: hows mips jr. ?
01:31.35sjhillhe just went to bed 20 minutes ago
01:31.40sjhillso he's doing great
01:31.44sorphinaka sjill v2.0 ;)
01:31.51sorphinsjhill even
01:31.54sjhillindeed
01:31.55sorphincool
01:32.04sjhillman, i love being a dad
01:32.10sorphinsjhill: and jen?
01:32.24sorphinsjhill: well good, that means you were meant to be one
01:32.30sjhillshe's doing well, she's right around the corner at her desk reading email
01:32.40sorphinsjhill: tell her hi
01:33.41sjhillsorphin: she says 'Hi'
01:33.45sorphinhehe
01:34.01sjhillwe had a 6 month lamaze reunion yesterday
01:34.07sorphinheh
01:34.14sjhillhttp://www.realitydiluted.com/gallery/2005/20051023-lamaze-reunion
01:34.23sjhillZachary is the Hershey's Kiss
01:35.09jbevrenkids are great at that age
01:35.14jbevrenthey dont care what you dress them in
01:35.16jbevrenlol :)
01:35.39jbevrenok sleep time
01:35.42jbevrennot feeling well :-X
01:35.51sjhillick
01:35.57sorphinjbevren: ok, cya
01:35.58sjhillhave a good night's rest
01:36.06jbevrengot sick helping care for a 2year old
01:36.07jbevrengrr
01:36.13sorphinheh
01:36.14sjhillbummer
01:36.15jbevrenstupid sick kids
01:36.15sorphinfun
01:36.16jbevren:)
01:36.24jbevrenok ciao
01:36.34sorphinsjhill's the sick one.. (mentally anyways ;) )
01:36.52sjhillyeah, i need to stop hanging with you
01:37.49sorphinheh, i'm not the one that proudly admits he's a mips monkey :P
01:38.48jbevrenhehe
01:39.02jbevrenI'd still like a laptop with a broadcom mips dualcore in it
01:39.20sorphinheh
01:39.28sorphinok
01:39.31sorphinthat smsc chip
01:39.32jbevrenor that lowpoer fantays Power chip
01:39.43sorphinis an FDC37C672
01:42.56sorphinyou cheered :P
01:43.44sorphinjbevren: thoguht so, this SMSC has 2 serial ports
01:43.59jbevrenhm
01:44.04jbevrenso two are from the system chipset?
01:44.31sorphinwell
01:44.36sorphineither the ones on the FDC aren't used
01:44.37sorphinor
01:44.54sorphinthey're paired with the ones from that littl EXAR uart
01:45.13sorphini know an FDC37C672 serial port would look normal
01:45.18sorphinso..
01:45.30sorphinand i don't think the southbridge has any
01:45.35jbevrennod
01:45.40jbevrenthe only real issue is physical connectors
01:45.44jbevrensince there's no rear I/O block
01:45.57sorphinheh
01:46.11sorphin"Enhanced Super I/O Controller with Fast IR"
01:46.31sorphinjbevren: 30awg wire and an exacto
01:46.37jbevren:-D
01:46.48sorphinsound like your kinda hack? ;)
01:47.25sorphinheh, looks like this thing is where the WD timer is too
01:48.08sorphinok
01:48.24sorphinnow to rememebr the difference between qfp and tqfp
01:48.50sorphinjbevren: http://www.smsc.com/main/datasheets/37c672.pdf  datasheet
01:50.54sorphincool
01:51.10sorphinall the pins for com1 are all together and are near the back of the board
01:52.36sorphinwell, either they're not using these ports, or they're 1/2 the serial ports and the other 1/2 are the uart
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01:58.14jbevrenthere are four in the bios
01:58.21jbevrenso I think there are 2 on each
01:58.36jbevrenwhat's the fdc chip on these?
01:58.39jbevrenI didnt lift the label
02:00.59sorphinjust said
02:01.08sorphinis an FDC37C672
02:01.18sorphinhttp://www.smsc.com/main/datasheets/37c672.pdf
02:01.21sorphinis the datasheet
02:03.40sorphinactually
02:03.48sorphini just booted bsd w/ all 4 enabled
02:03.57sorphinwell, junos
02:05.22sorphinhmm
02:05.25sorphininteresting
02:05.30sorphinjbevren: check this out
02:05.31sorphinsio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x90 on isa0                              
02:05.31sorphinsio0: type 16550A, console                                                      
02:05.31sorphinsio1 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0                                          
02:05.31sorphinsio1: type 16550A                                                              
02:05.31sorphinsio3 at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 7 on isa0                                          
02:05.33sorphinsio3: type 16550A                                                              
02:05.37sorphinonly 3 of 4 showed up
02:05.55jbevrenbase zero
02:05.58jbevrensio0 1 2 3
02:06.02sorphinread
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02:06.10sorphin:P
02:06.17jbevrenfine. make sense.
02:06.25sorphinlook up dude
02:06.34sorphinsio0, sio1 and sio3
02:06.36sorphinno sio2
02:07.00sorphinand i enabled all 4 in the bios
02:08.28sorphineach on a diff baseaddr and irq
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03:13.38GPSFan_sorphin: you still alive?
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09:14.50vittorioi just had a call with fsmlabs. they say RTAI is a plagiarism to RTLinux and choosing RTAI one can get problems in USA. asking for a real case  in court he couldnt name one. does anyone know something about this?
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12:43.46new_kerncan some one help me regarding the kernel command line in 2.6
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12:55.37Wingnutnew_kern: I may be able to help if you tell me what the problem is
12:56.04new_kerni am looking at having nfs mount
12:56.20new_kernthis is possibe in 2.4
12:56.24Wingnutyes
12:56.42new_kernwhen i try the same in 2.6....i dont see a kernel command line option in general setup
12:57.15new_kernso how will my kernel image know about the file system
12:57.26Wingnutshould be the same...nfsroot=<ipaddr>:/path
12:57.34Wingnutand root=/dev/nfs
12:57.38new_kernwell the command line is the same....
12:57.47new_kernbut i dont have an option to enter it anywhere
12:58.06new_kernthere is no option called command line
12:58.14Wingnutare you using a bootloader (u-boot, grub, lilo, etc...)
12:59.01new_kernmenuconfig-->general setup--> kernel command line....
12:59.01new_kernthis is missing in 2.6
12:59.29new_kerni am using a custom boot loader provided by one of the board vendors
12:59.44new_kernwith u boot i can do it at the bootloader prompt....
12:59.57new_kernbut this boot loader which i have...i cant
13:00.11Wingnutah
13:00.49new_kernit is x-boot255 for pxa255A board
13:01.14new_kernany idea??
13:01.31Wingnutnot yet, lemme see what I can find
13:01.44new_kernthanks....
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13:21.41prpplaguekergoth: ho ho ho
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13:28.27sorphinprpplague: look, we know you're a ho, what's your point?
13:28.33sorphinGPSFan: moin
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13:29.01prpplaguesorphin: morning crack baby
13:32.01GPSFansorphin: prpplague: morning..
13:32.16sorphinprpplague: takes one to know one
13:32.24sorphinGPSFan: how's things mr ken?
13:33.39GPSFansorphin: didn't get all I wanted done yesterday, got sidetracked by infringing real-life ;>)
13:34.51sorphinGPSFan: i hate when that happens
13:36.58GPSFansorphin: are you still interested in that scsi PMC card?
13:39.45chouimatmorning
13:45.27sorphinGPSFan: it have 2 or 3 connectors (where it hooks to the system board)
13:46.37chouimatLOL today dilbert is good
13:46.42sorphinchouimat: yeah
13:47.24prpplagueoh my
13:47.25prpplaguehttp://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=20028
13:47.26GPSFansorphin: 3
13:47.31prpplagueknow what i'm gonna order
13:47.31sorphinGPSFan: hmm
13:48.11sorphinGPSFan: our board only has 2 of em, they don't use the 64 bit, just 32
13:48.20sorphinprpplague: typical
13:48.21GPSFansor 2 are for the PMC (PCI) bus the 3re is for the SCSI signals
13:49.02sorphinGPSFan: but there's nowhere to hook it up to
13:49.22sorphinunless i'm missing something
13:49.23sorphinheh
13:49.37sorphinprpplague: ha
13:49.39sorphinCheck your applicable state laws in regards to home brewing
13:49.41GPSFancan't type this am. the SCSi board has a big connector on the front for the SCSI interface.
13:50.03sorphinGPSFan: i meant only that connect to the cpci board itself
13:50.31sorphinprpplague: wonder what your 'state' thinks ;)
13:50.32sorphinhehe
13:50.41sorphinoh wait
13:50.43sorphinthat's right
13:50.53sorphinyou're in the state of intoxication
13:50.54sorphin:)
13:51.04prpplaguesorphin: yea i was thinking the same thing, i'll have to check on it
13:51.07GPSFansorphin: you have a pix of that part of your cpu board?
13:51.39sorphinprpplague: might need one of these too then
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13:51.42sorphinhttp://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SAFE-MATE&cat=GDT
13:51.46sorphinprpplague: :)
13:52.14sorphinGPSFan: did you happen to pull the manual pdf?
13:52.40GPSFansorphin: read it on-line don't have a copy, I'll google it again..
13:53.46sorphinGPSFan: page 43
13:54.01sorphinGPSFan: we have con 19 and 21, no con 20
13:54.10CosmicPenguinI'm so mad at my manager right now
13:54.24sorphin~lart CosmicPenguin's Manager
13:54.57prpplaguei need to find a good cassette tape player to convert some tapes over to cd
13:55.01sorphinCosmicPenguin: what'd your PHB need to do now?
13:55.17CosmicPenguinsorphin: he's actually considering hiring a Linux consultant to review our patches before they go upstream
13:55.27prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ha
13:55.33CosmicPenguinAnd he told them that "we just don't have any experience or expertise in upstreaming code"
13:55.34chouimatLOL http://www.askmen.com/jokes/current/index.html
13:55.46prpplagueCosmicPenguin: mr.crouse, please me bob and bob
13:55.49GPSFansorphin: 19 & 21 is all you need, that's the PCI bus, 20 is for rear panel i/o ie SCSI, the card can do both.
13:55.51prpplagues/me/meet
13:56.07CosmicPenguinFor the love of crumbcake, I'm a damn linux engineer
13:56.31CosmicPenguinThe funny thing is that this consultant knows the request is BS, but he's going along with it
13:56.35sorphinGPSFan: k
13:56.37CosmicPenguinmaking stupid suggestions - I would too
13:56.55CosmicPenguin"We need you to review our patches" mmmkay - that would be 85 bucks an hour
13:57.28sorphin"You must apply da patches" (said in an oursourced voice)
13:57.29prpplagueT0mW: looks to be a nice project case - http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=A-USBIDE-25-14P
13:57.57sorphinappears plague trolling geeks.com today
13:58.33prpplaguesorphin: i always troll the bargain sites for ideas
13:58.49sorphinprpplague: i need one of these http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SHOCKPEN-N&cat=GDT
13:58.58GPSFansorphin: how about I send you the scsi board, you try it out, and if it works for you we go from there?
13:59.21prpplaguesorphin: yea that would be nice
14:00.18sorphinGPSFan: ok
14:00.39T0mWprpplague: heh, you'll have to design something now to fit into it now.
14:00.51GPSFansorphin: e-mail me an address, that will take Fedex 3-day.
14:01.02sorphinGPSFan: ok, so it looks like i was wrong (big shocker).. 2 serial ports are from that gay uart, the other are from the SMSC
14:01.03prpplagueT0mW: hehe
14:01.18CosmicPenguinsorphin: gay uart?  Its happy?
14:01.28sorphinGPSFan: uh.. that's a bit pricey, iirfrom always shipping fedex 3day
14:01.35sorphinCosmicPenguin: no, but it's sure confused
14:01.45sorphinmaybe it's Bi-Serial
14:01.45T0mWprpplague: I went to the computer show on Sunday, only spent $48 and that was for shrink tubing, some gender changers, misc 120mm fans...
14:02.01prpplagueT0mW: yea, nothing like that here, hehe
14:02.04T0mWprpplague: really didn't have anything I wanted / needed.
14:02.16prpplagueT0mW: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PK-000239-01
14:02.19chouimatsorphin: nice pen
14:02.23prpplagueT0mW: gonna grab a few of those
14:02.36prpplagueT0mW: cheap way to get some prototype sockets
14:02.50T0mWprpplague: lately I've had four computers running here 24/7, with a spare, or two, or three, sitting around
14:03.23prpplagueT0mW: my monitor at home went out, so i've been without for like two weeks
14:03.36sorphinprpplague: oh oh..
14:03.40T0mWprpplague: that little usb 14-in-1 reader does what I need.  handy too!
14:03.44jbevrenprpplague: that cf adapter's pretty sweet
14:03.47sorphinprpplague: guy here at work, just had a lil monitor hooked up
14:04.04T0mWprpplague: ow, in your case, you need spare machines, spare everything
14:04.07sorphinprpplague: maybe 8" or 10" at most... weighs about a 1lb
14:04.13sorphinprpplague: came from a fedex machine
14:04.25sorphinprolly either paperwhite vga or such
14:04.31sorphincute lil thing
14:04.35prpplaguesorphin: yea, actually i have a psone lcd i was thinking of hooking up
14:04.51sorphinnever seen a monitor that small before
14:04.56T0mWprpplague: so, you are on an enforced-vacation?
14:05.02prpplaguejbevren: yea, i've bought them before for prototyping
14:05.07prpplagueT0mW: ??
14:05.18sorphinjbevren: well well, look what woke up :P
14:05.26T0mWprpplague: you said your' monitor was bad?
14:05.35prpplagueT0mW: at home
14:05.41sorphinchouimat: and could produce lots of fun hours ;)
14:05.49T0mWprpplague: oh, so you have one at "work"
14:05.53chouimatsorphin: yup ...
14:06.13prpplagueT0mW: righto
14:06.23T0mWprpplague: I thought you worked from homw
14:06.29T0mWs/homw/home/
14:06.34prpplagueT0mW: naw, i have an office i rent
14:06.51T0mWprpplague: HO!  so, Donna cannot distract you, eh?
14:06.56prpplagueT0mW: yea
14:06.59T0mWheh
14:07.28sorphinT0mW: his "work" is the closet down the hall, that's his "office" :)
14:07.32sorphinoh wait.. that's the bathroom
14:07.35T0mW:)
14:07.36sorphind'oh
14:08.07prpplaguesorphin: actually my house has an office, just don't use it
14:08.29prpplaguesorphin: decided it was better to get out of the house
14:08.31T0mWsorphin: no, he has little sugar-shack down at the beach, Donna don't distract him but the other babes do
14:08.33kergothmorning
14:09.13T0mW"ooo!  lookee, a man with a job!"
14:09.14prpplaguesorphin: wish i'd not gotten this particular house now, because the office space drove up the cost
14:09.21sorphinprpplague: ah, local bar then? :)
14:09.36prpplaguesorphin: rum shack on every corner here, so yea
14:09.45sorphinhehe
14:09.53sorphinand there's kergoth
14:10.01prpplaguesorphin: its alot different than "bars" in the states
14:10.05T0mWwhat about kergoth ?
14:10.18sorphinprpplague: what you really, is your "office" to be at a nudiebar ;)
14:10.33prpplaguesorphin: you can go to a rum shack, and their will be whole families in there, kids doing homework and all
14:10.40sorphini was just pointing out that he's alive
14:10.42sorphinand here
14:10.43prpplaguesorphin: yea when i win the lottery
14:10.56sorphinprpplague: heh
14:11.07prpplagueT0mW: hey, i already gave him some this morning
14:11.11sorphinprpplague: interesting place that barbados
14:11.13T0mWkergoth: did you remember the donuts this morning?
14:11.22kergothyou can never have too much coffee.  but just now, its mt dew
14:11.26kergothno donuts :(
14:11.27prpplaguesorphin: carib in general is like that
14:11.42T0mWkergoth: heh, more caffine in mt dew
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14:12.06kergothT0mW: heh, when i drink coffee, its a 3 shot cappuccino or latte
14:12.10kergoth:P
14:12.12T0mWkergoth: I guess the mystery of what they do with the caffine flushed from de-caf
14:12.27sorphinthey inject it into kergoth
14:12.32T0mWkergoth: yeah, plus a handfull of chocolate beans
14:12.44prpplagueT0mW: btw, couldn't figure out why my jtag code was running so slow, turns out the pc they were testing with had the lpt set for EPP
14:12.48kergothi went the doc the other day.. first time at that clinic.. they had that medical history report you have to fill out that practically wants to know what you had for breakfast last tuesday
14:12.53kergothasked about caffeine intake
14:12.54sorphinT0mW: mmmm chocolate covered expresso beans
14:12.55prpplagueT0mW: slows down the jtag code major
14:12.57kergothi think they may be worried ;)
14:13.03T0mWprpplague: heh
14:13.07CosmicPenguinNext to it kergoth wrote - yes please
14:13.11kergothhehe
14:13.14sorphinindeed
14:13.33T0mWprpplague: now that i've gotten the -O0 and -Os setup, debugging is a whole lot easier!
14:13.41prpplaguekergoth: they'd have a cow if i had to write down my diet
14:13.56sorphinprpplague: beer, beer, oh and beer
14:14.02sorphin;)
14:14.05prpplagueand coffee
14:14.11sorphinand more beer for a chaser
14:14.19prpplagueT0mW: what was the deal?
14:16.31T0mWprpplague: nothin, the -O0 forced a coding error to appear, then, the processor runs so damned fast that by the time the tap controller got the core into DEBUG mode, the fscker had hit a data abort.
14:16.55prpplagueT0mW: coding error?
14:16.55T0mWprpplague: that screwed the JTAG for some reason, I couldn't dump Flash, could dump RAM, but...
14:17.09T0mWprpplague: stack corruption
14:17.09fileoh no, storm soon!
14:17.33kergoth~today
14:17.35ibotTuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday).
14:17.47kergothCosmicPenguin: did you see that tim taught it the day? :)
14:17.54fileheavy rainfall warning, and wind warning
14:18.04filesorphin: if the power goes out, only my internet will be up... no VoIP :(
14:18.18sorphinfile: d'oh
14:18.23CosmicPenguinkergoth: heh - yeah
14:18.29T0mWprpplague: absolutely weird, the JTAG wouldn't work to program or erase flash from that point on.  I had to force it into the ROM Monitor of the processor before JTAG would work again
14:18.33CosmicPenguinkergoth: he's good like that - he loves a challenge
14:18.36kergoth:)
14:18.43prpplagueT0mW: interesting
14:18.46fileADSL and router draws such little power, it goes for awhile... had it going for 40 minutes when this UPS is only rated for 30... so not toooo bad
14:19.02sorphin~8ball should we inject kergoth w/ pure caffeine now or later?
14:19.04ibotSure. Yeah, exactly.
14:19.08T0mWprpplague: fscking chip is so fast, it would run like hell until it hit a brickwall and then would be trashed
14:19.08sorphin:)
14:19.13sorphinkergoth: ibot likes you
14:19.19fileibot: botsnack
14:19.19ibotfile: thanks
14:19.21prpplagueT0mW: sounds like something similiar in the lh79520, it has a problem that if 0x00 has an invalid instruction, it the processor, including jtag goes into an unknow state
14:19.42sorphin~8ball should we cut file's power so he has no VoIP?
14:19.44ibotYes.
14:19.48fileeep
14:19.49sorphinwoohoo!
14:20.14T0mWprpplague: yeah, supposedly, the Abatron is capable of forcing the processor into JTAG DEBUG without it executing any instructions out of reset.
14:20.22T0mWprpplague: but that is not what happens
14:20.32sorphin~8ball do you ever respond with an answer other than yes?
14:20.33ibotPlease ask again.
14:20.36sorphinha
14:20.45T0mW~botsnack
14:20.45ibot:), T0mW
14:20.48filesorphin: I'm actually thinking of taking the train to Montreal... 15 hours... away from VoIP... but wait - I have my cellphone so I'd have net for a few hours
14:21.01sorphinfile: weirdo
14:21.09filewell
14:21.16fileit's $680 CAD for plane, $211 for train
14:21.48filesorphin: I have told them about the flaw in their usage agreement with the local provider
14:21.54filebut did they listen? nope!
14:21.57T0mWsorphin: some day, that boy is gonna find himself in an internet dead-zone, then he'll crack-up
14:22.04fileT0mW: I did
14:22.10T0mWheh
14:22.12sorphinT0mW: he cracked up ages ago
14:22.15fileI was without internet access for a day when I got stranded in Toronto
14:22.27T0mWhoo boy
14:22.33sorphinfile: i had access even in the Toronto airport
14:22.36sorphin:P
14:22.42sorphinyou must just suck ;)
14:22.45chouimatewww Toronto
14:22.55sorphinchouimat: better than Quebec :P
14:22.59sorphinthe France of the west
14:23.02CosmicPenguinno crap
14:23.03sorphin:)
14:23.14T0mWchouimat: what is that, the Philadelphia of Canada?
14:23.22sorphinhehe
14:23.27fileugh hungry
14:23.31chouimatsorphin: I'm in Ottawa now
14:23.46sorphinT0mW: Quebec is the land France didn't want, so they threw it back ;)
14:23.56fileI'm not a seafood person.
14:24.08filebetter.
14:24.10chouimatT0mW: no just the biggest Canadian's city (Toronto) followed by Montreal and Vancouver
14:24.19chouimatsorphin: haha
14:24.31chouimatLOL http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/10/25/1238235.shtml?tid=103&tid=123
14:25.03jbevrenheh
14:25.09fileI know the Pearson airport by heart now
14:25.09jbevrenchouimat: I read that yesterday
14:25.40chouimatjbevren: just saw it
14:25.51sorphinjbevren: com3 and 4 are prolly on the SMSC chip and 1 and 2 are on that crapuart
14:25.54prpplaguemostly miami
14:25.58prpplagueand san juan
14:26.40sorphinprpplague didn't import/export drugs, he imported and exported POS gear. That's almost as bad ;)
14:28.18prpplaguehey it pays the bills
14:28.46sorphinprpplague: taht doesn't make it right ;)
14:28.56CosmicPenguinheh - kind of like being a congressman
14:28.59kergothi have a remote site and a home office.  one has 3 wan links, one has 2.  the speeds of the links are all unequal.  i need to balance traffic across all the links on both ends to get one high speed connection.
14:29.03prpplaguesorphin: sometimes being an intellectual prostitute has its advantages
14:29.12kergothanyone have an algo to figure out the weights for the 6 tunnels i'll have to create?
14:29.16kergoth:)
14:29.26CosmicPenguinBeing an intellectual prostitute never has its advanages
14:29.35CosmicPenguinthey use you, and then they discard you when something younger comes along
14:30.47prpplaguekergoth: try the cisco site, they had a nice write up, iirc
14:32.36sorphinold old NCR ones
14:32.54fileviarail confuses me
14:32.59sorphinwith stuck keys
14:33.07prpplaguencr still makes some good scanner/scale units
14:33.21kergothhmm
14:33.29fileI don't think first class is available on these trains
14:33.38sorphinfile: you don't belong in 1st class!
14:34.00filewell I want a class where I have power outlets :P
14:35.10CosmicPenguinyou have no class
14:35.24filethat's true, but regardless
14:35.28sorphinexactly
14:35.30fileI don't have enough power to last 15 hours
14:35.40sorphinfile: n0 p0w3r 4 j00
14:35.55file5 hours I could do, 15? pfft no chance
14:36.06sorphinfile: there's this thing called sleep
14:36.15sorphinfile: i've heard it can burn a few hours
14:36.19filepfft
14:36.24filecosts extra for a place to sleep :P
14:36.33sorphinfile: can't sleep sitting up eh?
14:36.41fileWELL, I've done it
14:36.52fileon a flight from San Jose to New York
14:36.59file5 hours... asleep
14:37.41sorphinfile: better buy a *really* long extension cord then ;)
14:38.38fileneed sleeper class to get a power outlet
14:38.59filewhich brings the price up to $368
14:39.18chouimatfile: hehe
14:39.42sorphinand the "White House" C&D's the Onion
14:40.17fileI'd need a power bar most likely
14:41.57chouimatok a black cat on a black carpet in a dark room == claw in my foot
14:42.21sorphinheh
14:42.22sorphinoops
14:42.34CosmicPenguinthats no bueno
14:43.13kergothaha, got what i needed figured out, i think
14:44.27chouimatCosmicPenguin: even more when the room in question is the bathroom
14:45.01kergothwtf
14:45.02kergothEXT2-fs: loop0: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
14:49.24chouimatQuote of the day: Support your local Search and Rescue unit -- get lost.
14:50.36kergothwoot, got the weighting working properly
14:51.40sorphinheh
14:52.03kergothhmmm
15:11.44prpplagueinteresting, i didn't think pvc pipe was that strong - http://www.americanspeedster.com/
15:12.53Genesishttp://www.myspace.com/lawnmusic
15:13.31jbevrendrivers to 5'7" and weighting 160lbs.
15:13.33jbevrenits not that strong :)
15:15.17sorphinhehe
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19:09.55prpplaguei've sooooooo gotten tired of userland stuff
19:10.39prpplaguethe fun ends when all the hardware is working
19:12.24jbevrendoh
19:12.25jbevrenheh
19:12.38T0mWprpplague: naw, it just begins!
19:12.46chouimathi T0mW
19:14.48prpplagueT0mW: need more time and more $$ for gadgets to hack
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19:21.15prpplaguewe sure have alot of lurkers these days
19:29.26T`2bark
19:29.57T`2that makes for one less lurker?
19:30.05T`2lol
19:39.17CosmicPenguin#oe has a bunch of them too
19:39.36T`2hey cp.. whats up
19:41.40prpplagueT0mW: every do any vga to ntsc adapters?
19:44.33CosmicPenguinprpplague: I think he did
19:53.14T0mWprpplague: http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,761_798_AD724,00.html
19:53.45CosmicPenguinWow - thats brand new
19:55.28prpplagueT0mW: hehe too bad there evaluation board doesn't have scart out
19:57.35T0mWprpplague: http://search.analog.com/search/default.aspx?query=RGB+SCART&local=en
19:57.36CosmicPenguinheh - is that what they use in Barbados?
19:58.30T0mWprpplague: analog devices makes some cool stuff
20:06.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no i just have a lcd panel that has scart interface
20:07.10prpplaguei passed up a trash can this morning with a vga monitor in it, kinda wish i'd stopped
20:07.37prpplaguethe way ppl throw things away here, i'd suspect that it probably was just something minor
20:10.31prpplagueugh i'm totally unfocused
20:10.44prpplagueall the "house cleaning" cvs work is getting to me
20:11.16prpplagueit would be ok if i could site and get it all done like i want, but its like i can only do just enough to keep the cvs from going completely out of control
20:13.57CosmicPenguinThats CVS for you
20:22.30CosmicPenguindamn file
20:22.34CosmicPenguinhe disappears when you need him most
20:22.38CosmicPenguinoh,well - sorphin, you here?
20:26.30CosmicPenguinwow
20:29.10sorphinCosmicPenguin: hmm?
20:29.22CosmicPenguinsorphin: care to give me a recommendation on slic hardware?
20:29.31sorphinCosmicPenguin: que?
20:29.51CosmicPenguinIn this corner, the Legerity LE88221/241
20:29.59CosmicPenguinwww.legerity.com/getdoc.php?id=1038
20:30.13CosmicPenguinAnd in this corner, the silicon labs Si3210/11/15/30
20:30.18CosmicPenguinhttp://www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/Wireline/ProSLIC/en/Si3210-11_documentation.htm
20:30.39sorphinmy eyes! tinyurl please
20:31.12CosmicPenguinhttp://tinyurl.com/cq7d7
20:32.13CosmicPenguinI need to know which one is more asterisk/linux/software friendly
20:33.42sorphink
20:34.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hey i need some cvs advice
20:34.26CosmicPenguinrun away?
20:34.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
20:34.33sorphinprpplague: hilbilly, you're beyond help
20:34.51sorphinCosmicPenguin: err.. no, you're not doing lowlevel, not at all ;)
20:34.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hey we had a function in one of our menus that was removed
20:35.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: basically i just commented it out the code
20:35.25prpplagueCosmicPenguin: should i leave it commented out, or delete the lines before i check it back into cvs?
20:36.36CosmicPenguinAre you going to be reusing the code?
20:36.54CosmicPenguinBecause in my experience, its much less paintful to comment then to try to revert
20:36.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i seriously doubt it, just some menu options
20:37.13CosmicPenguinUnless of course, customers are going to see the code, then I would say get rid of it
20:37.43prpplaguehmm thats what i was thinking
20:41.01CosmicPenguinsorphin: of course, its damn hard to get ahold of decent free code to to run one of these bastards
20:41.04CosmicPenguinbut hey, I'm optimistic
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21:09.55sorphinCosmicPenguin: indeed
21:21.27sorphinprpplague: nah, you'll just wake up at beer:30
21:39.18CosmicPenguinlots of web stuff
21:39.22CosmicPenguinso much wasted energy
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23:52.09kergothwell, that was fun.
23:52.33kergothapparently i went to work this morning and left my garage door open all day, with no cars in it, so nothing to give anyone the impression it wasnt empty
23:52.37kergothmy dad was /pissed/
23:53.02file[laptop]dejavu
23:53.08kergothyes
23:53.13kergothmust rant!
23:53.14kergothmust!
23:53.23file[laptop]yay rant!!!
23:53.36kergothat any rate, i told him, "i screwed up. you know it and i know it, and i'll do the best i can do not do it in the future. if you cant deal with it, you know where the door is.".. so he's leaving dec. 1st
23:53.37kergoth:)
23:53.39kergothheh
23:55.33Wingnutsweet
23:56.02kergoththeres a community college like a block away
23:56.09kergothwont have a problem finding someone to room with
23:56.11kergothcut the rent a bit

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