| 00:15.45 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... |
| 00:16.38 | CosmicPenguin | should I just write a test to make sure it works for the stack, or should I write tests to make sure it works for dynamic and .text memory too? |
| 00:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | I guess stack is the most important thing |
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| 02:32.08 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 02:48.58 | cdm | evening. |
| 02:49.35 | kergoth | hey |
| 03:01.55 | cdm | hey man. How's the html? |
| 03:02.26 | kergoth | hehe. still have more to do. bleh. |
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| 03:07.35 | sorphin | cdm: evening chris |
| 03:09.10 | cdm | hey sorph |
| 03:10.24 | sorphin | cdm: sup? |
| 03:11.18 | cdm | not much. |
| 03:11.22 | cdm | Hacking, watching TV. |
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| 06:28.49 | fishhead | http://www.bigmech.com.nyud.net:8090/misc/juiceboxhack/juiceboxhack.html |
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| 07:16.10 | T0mW | well, bdi-2000 debugger is working. don't have it running with gdb yet |
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| 13:15.08 | sorphin | GPSFan: moin ken |
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| 13:18.29 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher |
| 13:19.28 | GPSFan | sorphin: howdy.. |
| 13:19.48 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
| 13:21.38 | sorphin | pb_: alright mate? |
| 13:21.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: how's things over on the farm? |
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| 13:28.49 | GPSFan | sorphin: leaves in the mts starting to turn, weather starting to turn chilly at night. no frost yet. |
| 13:37.08 | pb_ | sorphin: yah, pretty good |
| 13:42.24 | sorphin | pb_: where's histon again? |
| 13:42.35 | sorphin | my uk geography is rusty |
| 13:45.49 | sorphin | GPSFan: ic |
| 13:50.52 | jbevren | yawn |
| 13:54.44 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 13:57.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:57.47 | CosmicPenguin | On today's agenda - write a exploit |
| 13:57.49 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 13:58.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: j00 1337 h4x04 j00 |
| 13:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 13:59.05 | CosmicPenguin | not so much, my x86 asm is w34k |
| 13:59.13 | pb_ | sorphin: just north of Cambridge |
| 14:04.18 | sorphin | ah |
| 14:05.01 | sorphin | pb_: asked because whilst on a shuttle while on vacation, met a very nice couple who were over from liverpool, was the 1st time they'd ever been to states, and rarely left liverpool, heh |
| 14:06.19 | file[laptop] | DHL hates me |
| 14:06.20 | sorphin | speaking of clones |
| 14:06.29 | sorphin | where's the hillbilly |
| 14:06.45 | sorphin | file[laptop]: dhl hates everyone |
| 14:07.25 | CosmicPenguin | DHL sucks |
| 14:08.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so tell me - what do you know about the No eXecute bit? |
| 14:08.38 | file[laptop] | I've called two times and every time, "it'll be delivered tomorrow" |
| 14:09.42 | sorphin | file[laptop]: maybe they're playing w/ whatever toy you bought this time, and don't wanna give it up |
| 14:10.11 | file[laptop] | it's not a toy, it's a check from Google |
| 14:10.36 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: looks like some AMD creation |
| 14:10.49 | sorphin | file[laptop]: for what? searching too much? |
| 14:10.58 | file[laptop] | Summer of Code |
| 14:11.00 | sorphin | ah |
| 14:11.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: heh, yeah |
| 14:11.21 | file[laptop] | ironically they all went fine to various parts of the world, except mine |
| 14:11.29 | sorphin | if it werent' for their stock, i still can't see how google is making any $.. their ads.. well... |
| 14:11.42 | sorphin | file[laptop]: taht's because canada loses everything :P |
| 14:11.47 | sorphin | you know that |
| 14:12.14 | sorphin | prolly extracting the duty on the check as we speak ;) |
| 14:12.19 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 14:12.33 | sorphin | so you'll get a check for $1 CAD |
| 14:13.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: then un fortunately, i have to say i know squat about it, since it looks like it's tied to opteron/x86-64 |
| 14:13.29 | CosmicPenguin | Nah - its tied to the PAE |
| 14:13.33 | CosmicPenguin | I think intel has it too |
| 14:13.47 | sorphin | till i looked it up, i thought you were on about a filesystem bit, heh |
| 14:14.03 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just wondering how to best test it - should I only test shellcode exploits on the stack, or does it make sense to test the heap as well? |
| 14:14.16 | sorphin | hmm |
| 14:14.16 | CosmicPenguin | Or does it matter? |
| 14:14.33 | sorphin | generally stack smashing is done the most from what i've seen |
| 14:14.43 | sorphin | it's usually hte easiest to hit |
| 14:14.53 | CosmicPenguin | Right, because you know exactly where the memory is |
| 14:17.23 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:17.25 | sorphin | "The NX |
| 14:17.28 | sorphin | feature is also being marketed as 'Enhanced Virus Protection'." |
| 14:17.53 | sorphin | the bios has "virus protection" too, but it's next to useless :P |
| 14:18.01 | sorphin | oh wait.. make that totally useless |
| 14:18.55 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, ignore the marketing BS for a sec, and look at what it really does - if the NX bit is set, then the page faults if the programmer counter hits it |
| 14:19.13 | CosmicPenguin | Call me crazy, but I think thats useful |
| 14:19.27 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:19.35 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: you're crazy |
| 14:19.42 | sorphin | linus seems to forsee much breakage w/ legacy stuff |
| 14:19.53 | sorphin | least according to thise post from him |
| 14:20.06 | sorphin | file[laptop]: and you're not? |
| 14:20.17 | CosmicPenguin | If your code is executing from the heap or the stack, then I guess one could argue that you're broken regardless |
| 14:20.18 | file[laptop] | true |
| 14:20.29 | sorphin | CP|Laptop: good point |
| 14:20.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ^^ |
| 14:21.08 | file[laptop] | I shall call DHL again in 40 minutes and inquire |
| 14:21.23 | sorphin | file[laptop]: and i shall hear then decreath |
| 14:22.08 | sorphin | "Look, we already spent your check, so just be on your way" |
| 14:22.08 | sorphin | " |
| 14:22.12 | sorphin | "We spent it on beer, pr0n and at the nudie bar down the road" |
| 14:22.17 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 14:22.31 | sorphin | "The ladies send their thanks" |
| 14:23.10 | sorphin | </click> |
| 14:23.12 | file[laptop] | oh no an agent is messaging me |
| 14:23.27 | sorphin | an agent? |
| 14:23.28 | jbevren | agent mulder? |
| 14:23.37 | sorphin | Agent Smith |
| 14:24.29 | sorphin | file[laptop]: a canadian customs agent? |
| 14:25.34 | jbevren | <site> and Firefox cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorhythms. |
| 14:25.38 | jbevren | the hell? |
| 14:25.50 | CosmicPenguin | Firefox doesn't support rot13? :) |
| 14:26.11 | jbevren | apparently theyre locking out all enc's but ones supported by IE only? (/paranoia) |
| 14:26.55 | jbevren | got that when clicking the link on /. about the titanium thinkpads |
| 14:27.14 | sorphin | lemme try |
| 14:27.40 | sorphin | the one going to news.ft.com ? |
| 14:27.45 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:27.52 | sorphin | works fine here on firefox |
| 14:28.08 | jbevren | shrug |
| 14:28.14 | jbevren | page came up |
| 14:28.17 | jbevren | I just got that message |
| 14:28.18 | sorphin | maybe they just wanna keep you out ;) |
| 14:28.35 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:28.45 | sorphin | they're removing old SSL |
| 14:29.15 | sorphin | and apparently that site uses it |
| 14:29.18 | sorphin | i dunno |
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| 14:45.07 | CosmicPenguin | http://sbc.winsystems.com/products/sbcs/epxgx2.html |
| 14:53.42 | sorphin | wowsers |
| 14:53.46 | sorphin | it's the hillbilly |
| 14:53.52 | jbevren | re prpplague |
| 14:53.59 | jbevren | so a curiosity about the mmmtouch driver |
| 14:54.03 | jbevren | its not opening /dev/ttyS0 |
| 14:54.30 | jbevren | gonna swithc to dynapro (even though its apparently impossibel to calibrate) |
| 15:02.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you realize that there are currently 5 hurricane force storms in the northern hemisphere? |
| 15:04.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 15:04.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gonna run out of names |
| 15:04.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i suspect that the 23 record will be broken this year |
| 15:05.00 | CosmicPenguin | I believe it |
| 15:05.15 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:05.16 | CosmicPenguin | two more waves are in the alantic too, but the discussion doesn't think they'll materialize |
| 15:05.18 | chouimat | http://www.askmen.com/jokes/current/index.html |
| 15:06.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i think one of those will |
| 15:06.15 | prpplague | http://image.weather.com/images/sat/atl_oce_sat_720x486.jpg |
| 15:06.38 | prpplague | that one in the middle at the bottom has some potential |
| 15:07.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, you're right |
| 15:08.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Phillipe might hold it off though |
| 15:09.11 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, NX is largely an AMD-only thing, intel hasn't been supporting it for very long. still PAE bound in either event, though. |
| 15:09.40 | CosmicPenguin | Lethal: ok, I know that PAE is a Intel thing, and I know that XP supports the NX bit, so I thought both vendors were on board |
| 15:10.00 | CosmicPenguin | Thats cool, if Intel wants to enable the crackers of the world, thats fine with me... :) |
| 15:10.47 | Lethal | I'm not sure at what point intel started supporting it, it's only been really recently though. |
| 15:12.07 | CosmicPenguin | Pledges to conform to the requirements of Version 3 are Red Hat, Novell's Suse Linux, Asianux and Debian." |
| 15:12.10 | CosmicPenguin | That must be wrong |
| 15:12.19 | CosmicPenguin | Debian and LSB don't seem like they go together |
| 15:14.22 | Lethal | IIRC there were some problems with JRE trying to exec out of the stack, but that's no big loss.. |
| 15:15.04 | CosmicPenguin | amen |
| 15:16.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wow rita has a well defined eye |
| 15:16.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the gulf is just full of energy right now - its like steroids for any storm that comes by |
| 15:17.07 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/SST/ATL/20.jpg |
| 15:17.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea we went to the beach saturday and the water was really hot |
| 15:19.33 | jbevren | this is an infrared map? |
| 15:23.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.nationnews.com/story/284289648210678.php |
| 15:36.44 | pb_ | hi kergoth |
| 15:37.01 | prpplague | pb_: what? no greeting for me? hehe |
| 15:37.09 | pb_ | prpplague: heh, didn't notice you had snuck in |
| 15:37.13 | prpplague | kergoth: whats cookin today crack baby |
| 15:37.14 | kergoth | bleh. alarm was set to 2.5 hours ago. thats a lot of presses of the snooze button |
| 15:37.15 | pb_ | prpplague: hello :-) |
| 15:37.20 | prpplague | pb_: just yakin your chain |
| 15:45.44 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 15:50.21 | prpplague | chouimat: i with you |
| 15:50.40 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 15:50.52 | prpplague | chouimat: i got to work this morning and the cleaning personell got my monitor cable caught in a buffer and cut it all to hell |
| 15:51.29 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch |
| 15:52.16 | chouimat | speaking of cleaning ... need to do this soon ... lot of cat hairs all over the office |
| 15:52.23 | CosmicPenguin | oops |
| 15:52.23 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:53.37 | CosmicPenguin | oh, heh, I guess that makes sense |
| 15:53.52 | CosmicPenguin | the kernel doesn't set the NX bit on for .rodata |
| 15:53.54 | prpplague | fortunately i'm a parts freak and i had a monitor i got from the trash a few weeks back so i spent the better part of the morning soldering in a new cable |
| 15:54.03 | CosmicPenguin | but since its .rodata, that really isn't surprising |
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| 17:13.27 | prpplague | T0mW: re |
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| 17:20.31 | prpplague | andersee: ho ho ho |
| 17:20.38 | prpplague | andersee: how goes it? |
| 17:21.07 | file | hail andersee |
| 17:22.20 | andersee | prpplague: morning |
| 17:22.26 | andersee | file: g'day eh |
| 17:22.42 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 17:22.56 | prpplague | andersee: whats cookin on your dev stove lately? |
| 17:23.23 | andersee | prpplague: Trying to finish off the last bits of a massive cleanup on a pile of 3rd party code... |
| 17:23.37 | andersee | ugly ugly stuff |
| 17:23.46 | prpplague | andersee: oh joy |
| 17:24.33 | andersee | or something |
| 17:24.38 | T0mW | prpplague: morning dude |
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| 17:25.35 | prpplague | andersee: getting to do much arm dev? |
| 17:25.55 | T0mW | prpplague: well, got the bdi-2000 jtag working last night. I put blob into the LPD7A400 |
| 17:26.40 | prpplague | T0mW: lovely |
| 17:27.04 | T0mW | yeah, hours and hours agonizing over which arm compiler to build though |
| 17:27.08 | fishhead | hey |
| 17:27.11 | fishhead | what do you guys think of extech meters |
| 17:27.12 | prpplague | T0mW: i just took on a weekend programming project to fund my purchase of one |
| 17:27.12 | T0mW | building building... |
| 17:27.16 | fishhead | I saw a decent one for $34 |
| 17:27.25 | T0mW | prpplague: it is a nice unit |
| 17:27.27 | fishhead | freq, cap, ac, dc, temp, contunity |
| 17:27.50 | T0mW | prpplague: now to get gdb + insight built |
| 17:28.38 | andersee | prpplague: not much of late I'm afraid |
| 17:28.43 | prpplague | andersee: btw, jsut out of curiosity, you don't happen to know some linux based tools for working with arm disassembled code? |
| 17:28.47 | prpplague | andersee: bummer |
| 17:28.57 | T0mW | prpplague: hey Dave, that mmc code doesn't have to be golden, I'm willing to take what you got and get it working |
| 17:29.04 | andersee | prpplague: nothing comes to mind |
| 17:29.12 | prpplague | T0mW: oh heck sorry i forgot, get that to you today |
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| 17:29.22 | T0mW | prpplague: np |
| 17:30.17 | prpplague | T0mW: its geared towards the 79520 but its pretty flexbile |
| 17:30.32 | jbevren | Nice. |
| 17:30.35 | jbevren | open the device |
| 17:30.36 | jbevren | IOCTL it |
| 17:30.37 | jbevren | close it |
| 17:30.40 | jbevren | that's a nice driver |
| 17:30.46 | fishhead | prpp would you ask the channel what they think of this |
| 17:30.47 | fishhead | http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/extech/multimeters/mn26.htm |
| 17:30.57 | fishhead | since most of the channel has me on ignore and for once I value their opinion |
| 17:31.19 | jbevren | fishhead: you get what you pay for, |
| 17:31.23 | jbevren | but honestly it doesnt look bad |
| 17:31.46 | T0mW | uhoh, Rita is now a category 4 ?! |
| 17:31.54 | prpplague | fishhead: you know, if you don;t use my full nick, i don't know you are speaking to me as it does not highlight your message |
| 17:32.19 | fishhead | wow |
| 17:33.34 | fishhead | prpplague, can you please ask |
| 17:33.48 | fishhead | I might even get it today, I can't even freaking assembly pc's cause I can't verify if the psu's are working |
| 17:35.30 | fishhead | can't be any worse than the $15 cheezeball radio shack meter I had |
| 17:36.07 | prpplague | http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/extech/multimeters/mn26.htm anyone have comments on this meter? |
| 17:36.14 | fishhead | thx bro :) |
| 17:36.45 | prpplague | fishhead: one time deal |
| 17:37.02 | jbevren | I commented already :) |
| 17:38.17 | prpplague | andersee: i've not kept up with uclibc dev in awhile, hows the c++ support these days? |
| 17:38.22 | T0mW | prpplague: looks like a nice meter |
| 17:39.11 | andersee | prpplague: pretty darn good |
| 17:39.35 | andersee | prpplague: I expect basically everything should work... |
| 17:39.38 | T0mW | prpplague: what is "NIST" |
| 17:39.41 | fishhead | prpp i'll make it up to you somewhat :) |
| 17:39.49 | prpplague | andersee: lovely |
| 17:39.55 | fishhead | sorry prpplague |
| 17:40.19 | prpplague | andersee: i think i'm gonna start a rework of some of our legacy builds with buildroot,uclibc, and bb 1.01 |
| 17:40.35 | prpplague | andersee: should be able to cut the size down dramatically |
| 17:41.29 | andersee | hopefully. using any i18n/locale stuff? |
| 17:44.12 | fishhead | prpplague, tell t0mw that nist extech is certified and calibrated by NIST |
| 17:44.40 | fishhead | prpplague, national institue standards testing or something |
| 17:45.42 | fishhead | prpplague, <T0mW> prpplague: what is "NIST" |
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| 17:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/ |
| 17:53.22 | CosmicPenguin | heh - looks like they have another fly |
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| 17:58.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 17:58.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh on the camera? |
| 18:01.06 | prpplague | if anyone is interested i've started a page on elinux.org for the ez-usb based devices |
| 18:01.21 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/EzUsb |
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| 18:03.25 | prpplague | TimRiker: timmy! |
| 18:08.00 | prpplague | TimRiker: whats the latest on the zipit front? anything from fsf or aeronix? |
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| 18:42.11 | sorphin | holy backscroll batman |
| 18:42.37 | sorphin | heh, lilo is seeing free lounging for his 'not for profit but pay my personal bills organization' |
| 18:42.45 | sorphin | s/seeing/seeking/ |
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| 19:31.33 | CosmicPenguin | Latest update show rita downgrading pretty strongly before it hits land |
| 19:31.34 | CosmicPenguin | Thats good |
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| 21:31.54 | CosmicPenguin | It will be interesting to see if I can nest the OE images together |
| 21:57.32 | kergoth | this app is dlopen()ing a module. the module uses a symbol in the app |
| 21:57.36 | kergoth | and its saying tha tsymbol is unresolved |
| 21:57.38 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:58.26 | CosmicPenguin | ARe you using RTLD_NOW or RTLD_LAZY? |
| 21:58.41 | kergoth | its probably now. do you need lazy to be able to use the symbols in the app thats opening you? |
| 21:59.26 | CosmicPenguin | No, you should have NOW |
| 21:59.35 | kergoth | well what the hell |
| 21:59.37 | kergoth | yep, its now |
| 21:59.38 | CosmicPenguin | if you had LAZY, it tries to use it when it needs it |
| 22:00.20 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, wait - you probably didn't do -rdynamic, did you? |
| 22:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | External references in the library are resolved using the libraries in |
| 22:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.27 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.28 | kergoth | yep, thats it |
| 22:00.32 | kergoth | i just read that in the man page too :) |
| 22:00.48 | kergoth | hmm.. |
| 22:10.15 | CosmicPenguin | they're soo cool |
| 22:12.41 | T0mW | Open Source is such an adventure, googling on the problem I ran into I came upon this: 'I "downgraded" Insight to 6.0 and it works O.K for me.' |
| 22:12.49 | T0mW | I suppose I should do the same... |
| 22:13.03 | T0mW | bah |
| 22:13.28 | MonMotha | bleh, I guess I'll have to do something hackish with my DCT-5000 after all |
| 22:13.50 | MonMotha | it apparently can't be made to work as a cable box without getting the firmware from motorola (or another, working as a cable box, DCT5000) |
| 22:14.56 | T0mW | MonMotha: nice flash chips on it you might be able to wick off the solder and re-use them? |
| 22:15.01 | T0mW | ;) |
| 22:15.21 | CosmicPenguin | ugh |
| 22:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | I tried that once |
| 22:15.25 | T0mW | MonMotha: nice power supply over on the one side |
| 22:15.34 | CosmicPenguin | me and solder, we don't get along |
| 22:15.44 | jbevren | burrrrn baby burrrrrn |
| 22:15.44 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: tricky tricky tricky |
| 22:15.45 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:15.53 | jbevren | ok out |
| 22:15.55 | MonMotha | T0mW: well, I'd love to get it working as a computer |
| 22:16.57 | T0mW | MonMotha: why not do something adventuresome? Try the hotplate to melt the solder, then lift the chips off that you want with an X-acto knife? |
| 22:17.27 | MonMotha | T0mW: because I don't have any use for most of them in other projects atm? |
| 22:17.30 | T0mW | MonMotha: oh, and let me know how well it works out ok? Inquiring minds want to know |
| 22:19.07 | T0mW | jbevren: I've done it, you have to use solder wick and X-acto knife. But you trash the PCB most times |
| 22:19.07 | MonMotha | T0mW: well, the objective was to put linux on it |
| 22:19.07 | T0mW | nod |
| 22:19.07 | MonMotha | yeah, generally you acn save a chip or the board, but not both |
| 22:19.07 | T0mW | yeah |
| 22:19.12 | T`2 | MonMotha, so can your use it for to decode TV or not ? |
| 22:19.31 | MonMotha | T`2: I've been trying to set it up as a cable box with the local cable co, but they don't have the firmware for it |
| 22:19.36 | T`2 | MonMotha, it could perhaps be used to steal cable ;p |
| 22:20.03 | T`2 | the firmware isn't there already ? usually they just put it on FLASH right? |
| 22:20.14 | MonMotha | all it has is a boot ROM |
| 22:20.18 | MonMotha | the rest of the flash is blank |
| 22:20.26 | MonMotha | I'm trying to actually pay for my cable |
| 22:20.36 | MonMotha | the local cable co has no boxes with IEEE1394, and the 5k has that |
| 22:20.50 | MonMotha | if they didn't encrypt their cable, I could just use my HD tuner card |
| 22:21.10 | T`2 | cool.. can you get mpeg streaming from 1394 ? |
| 22:21.55 | MonMotha | if I could get the firmware for this box, yes |
| 22:22.27 | T`2 | so i'm guessing you didn't buy this box frm the cable company? since they must sell their boxes with firmware preinstalled? |
| 22:22.34 | MonMotha | correct. I bought it from Timmy |
| 22:22.45 | MonMotha | the intention was to put linux on it |
| 22:22.55 | T`2 | heh i c.. time to talk to that anoying neighbour always screwing about the game ;) |
| 22:23.09 | T`2 | s/screwing/screaming |
| 22:23.39 | T0mW | (sung to the tune of Rawhide): compiling compiling compiling, all fscking day I'm compiling, compiliiiinng |
| 22:24.07 | T`2 | T0mW, you should join the gentoo chorus... for the effect you know |
| 22:24.47 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 22:24.48 | T0mW | yeah, like the background melody |
| 22:24.51 | CosmicPenguin | outlook sucks |
| 22:25.25 | CosmicPenguin | I mock anybody who thinks they are busy enough to remotely schedule appointments with other people |
| 22:25.53 | T0mW | T`2: (to the tune of Hooked on a Feelin'): gentoo suck-a, gentoo suck-a, ... |
| 22:26.36 | CosmicPenguin | thats the funniest thing I've seen in a while |
| 22:29.07 | T0mW | ../src/configure --target=arm-elf --prefix=/opt/insight ; make ; make install ; throw fit ; |
| 22:29.43 | T0mW | I guess that I shouldn't complain too much |
| 22:30.17 | T0mW | Insight is connecting to the JTAG and is doing dumps of the target memory |
| 22:30.26 | CosmicPenguin | bash |
| 22:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 22:30.30 | CosmicPenguin | like you need to dump memory |
| 22:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | JTAG is for sissies! |
| 22:30.39 | T0mW | :P |
| 22:30.44 | T0mW | better than dumping cores |
| 22:31.35 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: yeah, but, debugging with only a single LED is getting to be a PITA |
| 22:31.47 | T`2 | T0mW, lol |
| 22:31.59 | MonMotha | T0mW: last project I did, I had 4 spare I/Os that just get flipped to show the state |
| 22:32.07 | MonMotha | does it even on production models, thought he header isn't populated |
| 22:32.28 | CosmicPenguin | derblinkinlights are always acceptable |
| 22:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | plus they're purty |
| 22:32.52 | T0mW | I'll leave that he-man crap up to you youngsters, this old-fart wants a JTAG source debugging |
| 22:33.42 | *** join/#elinux CosmicPenguin (n=nobody@aus-ext-proxy01.amd.com) |
| 22:34.08 | CosmicPenguin | the tool of corporate opression has returned |
| 22:34.21 | CosmicPenguin | I'll get you, and your unproxied network too |
| 22:35.41 | T0mW | gasp! |
| 22:35.43 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: http://vuurmuur.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:40.30 | kergoth | hey, neat |
| 22:40.34 | kergoth | thats like what i wanted to do |
| 22:42.01 | kergoth | hmm, i dont much like the gui tool |
| 22:42.04 | kergoth | wonder what their config format is |
| 22:44.04 | T0mW | ah! rrrrregisters! |
| 22:46.12 | T0mW | now to try an load something |
| 22:46.31 | *** join/#elinux cdm-work (n=cdm@A17-213-34-30.apple.com) |
| 22:50.30 | T0mW | what debug format works with gdb? -ggdb ?? |
| 22:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | gdb can understand pretty much anything |
| 22:54.01 | CosmicPenguin | I think that -ggdb does 'stabs' plus GDB extensions if they are possible |
| 22:54.46 | T0mW | ah! need to tell gas to emit symbols too! |
| 22:54.47 | T0mW | heh |
| 22:55.01 | T0mW | got source now |
| 22:57.02 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 23:09.50 | CosmicPenguin | note to self - turn off java crap in gcc |
| 23:10.06 | file[laptop] | java bad |
| 23:13.42 | T0mW | this is cool! |
