| 01:11.46 | pigeon | was there a page with a list of applications that's being used with uclibc? |
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| 05:20.59 | sorphin | TimRiker: evening timmy |
| 05:21.23 | TimRiker | evnin' |
| 05:21.32 | sorphin | TimRiker: how goes? |
| 05:34.02 | TimRiker | fine. moving my server home if I have enough time. perhaps andersee's ears will recover from fan noise eventually. |
| 05:38.36 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:39.01 | sorphin | i have a 7' rack next to me that's full of fan'd equipment |
| 05:39.04 | sorphin | i just ignore it ;) |
| 05:43.30 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:43.37 | sorphin | prolly all OE spam :P |
| 05:44.15 | TimRiker | only 17M of oe mail. |
| 05:44.25 | sorphin | ah |
| 05:44.32 | sorphin | rest must be hatemail then ;) |
| 05:49.38 | kergoth | hehe, i was out of open source for months there, didnt check my mailing lists. slowly working through the backlog |
| 06:00.06 | sorphin | i should mention it at work |
| 06:00.11 | TimRiker | wow! he speaks |
| 06:00.17 | sorphin | hehe |
| 06:00.50 | TimRiker | kergoth, might want to clean out your spam folder too. ;-) |
| 06:01.52 | kergoth | damn, 1171 messages in there |
| 06:02.35 | TimRiker | kergoth: it's 58M at present. |
| 06:03.25 | TimRiker | course I just finished syncing your home dir over to the new box, so any changes you are doing now will have to get synced again in the next pass. ;-) |
| 06:04.06 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 07:32.19 | TimRiker | kergoth: just did the server move. might need to kill any dns caches. I had set them to 10 minute expiry a while a go so they should clean out by themselves. |
| 07:32.33 | TimRiker | ~nslookup rikers.org |
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| 07:40.27 | andersee | TimRiker: eh? |
| 07:40.44 | andersee | good heavens... |
| 07:41.19 | andersee | I suppose that mean I can begin using my test box for testing again. |
| 07:41.25 | andersee | TimRiker: thanks |
| 07:41.31 | andersee | :-) |
| 07:42.09 | GvzEvxre | andersee: can you leave it up for a day or so till I'm sure I got everything? |
| 07:42.14 | andersee | TimRiker: would you like me to leave it up a bit longer to accomodate dns caches |
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| 07:42.44 | andersee | k, will do |
| 07:43.24 | TimRiker | shouldn't be seeing any traffic there. I shut down mail/web/ibot/bzflagstuff/etc. |
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| 10:03.10 | TorbaX | hello |
| 10:03.24 | TorbaX | anyone knows eCos ? |
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| 12:48.22 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:51.33 | prpplague | chouimat: lo |
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| 13:21.40 | sorphin | prpplague: ack! there's a plague afoot! |
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| 13:52.38 | prpplague | CP|AtHome: hola |
| 13:52.48 | chouimat | grrrrrrrr |
| 13:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 13:55.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:55.40 | prpplague | anyone got any experience in disassembly of arm code? |
| 13:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | I thought you were the arm code expert |
| 13:58.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: bah |
| 13:59.24 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not what I heard... :) |
| 13:59.39 | prpplague | i found some cool x86 perl scripts that follow data references and print text, but i can't find anything for arm |
| 14:00.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this bootloader is pretty complexe |
| 14:00.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and following from just asm is pretty tough |
| 14:01.24 | sorphin | prpplague: damn texans, think they know everything, but it turns out, they just know how to spit chew and adjust their 10 gallon hat ;) |
| 14:02.09 | CosmicPenguin | well, following any asm is tough |
| 14:02.30 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, well, i guess thats why i'm not a typical texan, because the only thing i know for sure is that i know very little |
| 14:02.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 14:03.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh oh oh, btw, i got those modules from iee |
| 14:03.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you want to look at the watchdog code? |
| 14:04.29 | CosmicPenguin | They GPL? |
| 14:05.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i talked to one of their software engineers who gave me the url to download, hehe, he said the management went to talk to a lawyer and the lawyer told them "you better make this code available asap" hehe |
| 14:05.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 14:05.52 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - hook me up |
| 14:05.55 | CosmicPenguin | I would like to see what they did |
| 14:06.16 | prpplague | nothing fancy, i'll email ya, your amd address? |
| 14:07.22 | CosmicPenguin | sure |
| 14:09.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lnxho@amd.com ? |
| 14:10.37 | sorphin | prpplague: well, in your case, it's a 10 gallon beer ;) |
| 14:11.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:11.18 | prpplague | sorphin: shhh, don't tell anyone, but i've cut back on the beer |
| 14:12.16 | CosmicPenguin | I should get that e-mail address |
| 14:12.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: otw |
| 14:14.55 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, thats about what I expected |
| 14:14.58 | CosmicPenguin | Horribly formatted code though |
| 14:15.06 | CosmicPenguin | Those people should be taken out and beaten |
| 14:15.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea they have no clue |
| 14:15.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when i told them that i'd already gotten a "clean" distro built from scratch in just 2 days, they were like "no way" |
| 14:16.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i laughed, and said kinda under my breath, "not like it was an arm or mips board" hehe |
| 14:17.07 | CosmicPenguin | you laugh |
| 14:17.18 | CosmicPenguin | but it was easier for me to bring up a MIPs image then it was for me to do a x86 image |
| 14:17.31 | sorphin | prpplague: well duh.. alcohol is a depressant |
| 14:18.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so last night, I brought up an OE image on SimNow - our machine simulator |
| 14:22.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting |
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| 14:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | Whats cool about is is that image was completely automated - I don't think the SimNow guys have ever done that before |
| 14:23.20 | prpplague | cool |
| 14:23.21 | CosmicPenguin | They usually installed a image on a disk and then used a special tool to copy it off |
| 14:23.22 | kergoth_ | morning |
| 14:23.35 | prpplague | kergoth_: hey hey crack baby |
| 14:23.48 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: whats simnow? |
| 14:23.53 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 14:24.07 | CosmicPenguin | Its our CPU simulation environment |
| 14:24.11 | CosmicPenguin | its actually pretyt damn cool |
| 14:24.40 | kergoth_ | ah |
| 14:25.00 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1638782,00.asp |
| 14:25.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, does it properly simulate intel compilier code thats not suppose to run on the cpu? hehe |
| 14:25.10 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 14:25.11 | kergoth_ | VFS: Busy inodes after unmount. Self-destruct in 5 seconds. Have a nice day... |
| 14:25.14 | CosmicPenguin | That would be fun to check |
| 14:27.22 | prpplague | oh, and if any cares, m$ announced yesterday that it is targeting the carribean for a round of audits and pushes for m$ software in government agencies and schools |
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| 14:32.26 | prpplague | whats' good for the goose is good for the gander - http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/23/lesbian.parents.ap/index.html |
| 14:34.31 | chouimat | prpplague: make senses ... |
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| 14:37.03 | prpplague | chouimat: what doesn't make sense is, if you decided to divorce your wife, and during the procedings you find out that your son/daughter really isn't biologically yours, you still have to pay child support, not the biological father |
| 14:38.55 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch ... btw since the new wedding law in Canada ... 2 straigth guys decided to get married together for taxes reasons :) |
| 14:40.13 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:40.47 | chouimat | prpplague: the newscaster was laughing when reading that one |
| 14:51.12 | file[laptop] | eep |
| 14:53.20 | sorphin | file[laptop]: my boss' boss (who used to just be my boss), is a fellow countryman of yours, and seems to be obsessed lately with: http://www.grafx-design.com/14photo.html |
| 14:54.18 | prpplague | doh doh doh doh |
| 14:54.32 | prpplague | someone at the office posted to LAK a question about a jpeg viewer |
| 14:55.27 | sorphin | uh oh |
| 14:55.30 | kergoth | lol |
| 14:57.08 | prpplague | kergoth: you have any experience doing disassembly? |
| 15:13.50 | kergoth | prpplague: not all that much. did some on the old sharp sdmmc driver, but thats about it |
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| 15:21.15 | kergoth | prpplague^2: not all that much. did some on the old sharp sdmmc driver, but thats about it |
| 15:21.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:22.42 | prpplague^2 | kergoth: hmm |
| 15:42.50 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 15:43.19 | file[laptop] | you didn't say simon says |
| 15:45.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you too? |
| 15:46.36 | CosmicPenguin | ssdd, I guess |
| 15:47.12 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: you're beginning to sound like kergoth |
| 15:47.44 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:47.54 | file[laptop] | that's a bad thing |
| 15:47.54 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just way in over my head |
| 15:49.41 | CosmicPenguin | Too much responsiblity, too little control over the actual outcome |
| 15:54.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've joined taht club too |
| 15:54.47 | sorphin | my goals for EOY were rereviewed today |
| 15:55.03 | sorphin | let's put it this way.. if they actually DO end up handing out any bonuses |
| 15:55.16 | sorphin | i'll see maybe half, if any of what i'd get |
| 15:55.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:09.17 | CosmicPenguin | So here's how I see it going down |
| 16:09.40 | CosmicPenguin | My manager is has the responsiblity of doing software |
| 16:09.50 | CosmicPenguin | but all the software is being written by a group outside of his control |
| 16:10.06 | CosmicPenguin | So he puts me in charge of the planning, knowing full well that the other group won't listen |
| 16:10.20 | CosmicPenguin | And thus the failure is on me, not on him |
| 16:10.24 | CosmicPenguin | Its brilliant, I tell you! |
| 16:11.05 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:11.22 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, not only does the other group not listen, they make their own plans |
| 16:11.45 | CosmicPenguin | directly contradicting my own |
| 16:12.13 | CosmicPenguin | You know, stuff like - I say we test with an embedded image, becuase thats what our customers will do |
| 16:12.18 | CosmicPenguin | and they say test with SuSE, because its easier |
| 16:13.05 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just going to give up - might as well enjoy my slow descent into hell |
| 16:15.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wow, you sound exactly like i did before i left abcsinc, hehe |
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| 16:16.58 | file | CosmicPenguin: eep descent |
| 16:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but the difference is that the company is rising, while I'm falling |
| 16:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | I'm directly being set up to be a scapegoat |
| 16:18.28 | prpplague | hmm not a good thing |
| 16:19.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: mr penguin, sir |
| 16:21.32 | CosmicPenguin | yes? |
| 16:22.18 | sorphin | what would you say a... |
| 16:22.21 | sorphin | AMD Opteron 242 SledgeHammer 400MHz FSB Socket 940 Processor |
| 16:22.33 | sorphin | 1.6ghz (refurbed) should run for? |
| 16:22.50 | jbevren | http://www.arrowsmash.com/2hd.jpg |
| 16:22.55 | CosmicPenguin | wow - I have no idea |
| 16:23.05 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure what the refurb market is |
| 16:23.07 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah well |
| 16:23.14 | sorphin | newegg is sellin em |
| 16:23.30 | sorphin | $152 |
| 16:23.57 | sorphin | so thought i'd ask.. |
| 16:24.06 | CosmicPenguin | Thast probably not too bad |
| 16:24.16 | CosmicPenguin | I think they originally retailed for the high 900s |
| 16:24.20 | sorphin | dunno quite how you refurb a cpu tho |
| 16:24.50 | file | get rid of the warranty |
| 16:25.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:25.15 | sorphin | pricewatch prices at $158 for that model |
| 16:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | I should resign my position |
| 16:31.48 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:31.56 | sorphin | and do what? go work at burger king? |
| 16:32.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well before you resign, might want to take stock of what ya gotta do |
| 16:32.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i know its hokie, but might make a pros/cons list of what you gotta do |
| 16:33.02 | sorphin | cripes |
| 16:33.13 | sorphin | cheapest dual socket 940 is $238 |
| 16:33.16 | CosmicPenguin | No, not leave AMD |
| 16:33.19 | CosmicPenguin | just go back to being a code monkey |
| 16:33.19 | sorphin | ok, won't be doing that then |
| 16:38.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:38.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: be nice eh? |
| 16:44.41 | CosmicPenguin | I always thought I wanted to be an architect, but its not fun being an architect when nobody wants you |
| 16:45.31 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:46.20 | kergoth | ctnetlink is neat. netlink interface to the kernel's connection tracking database. this tool i found monitors it, displaying each and every connection state change |
| 16:56.09 | mallum | hey |
| 16:56.34 | kergoth | hey mallum |
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| 17:26.10 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 17:27.12 | CosmicPenguin | So, can I assume that if I have a file scope variable in C, like so: static int foo = 0; that gcc will put it in the BSS? |
| 17:27.41 | CosmicPenguin | I thought at one time, that gcc didn't put the variable in BSS if you specifically defined the value to be zero |
| 17:27.54 | CosmicPenguin | but I've had a lot of booze and been hit in the head several times since then |
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| 17:29.31 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... interesting rule |
| 17:29.48 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 33 - The right hand operand of a && or || operator shall not contain side effects |
| 17:29.54 | CosmicPenguin | I know for sure the kernel fails that one |
| 17:30.05 | CosmicPenguin | I depend on the right hand operand not being evaulated all the time |
| 17:31.18 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - rule 35 - Assignment operations should not be used in expressions that return Boolean values |
| 17:31.21 | CosmicPenguin | fail that one too |
| 17:34.19 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 45 - Type casting from any type to or from pointers shall not be used |
| 17:34.21 | CosmicPenguin | Hey now |
| 17:34.23 | CosmicPenguin | thats not right |
| 17:34.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:40.25 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - Pavel Machek would *hate* that rule |
| 17:40.59 | CosmicPenguin | of course, isn't that the point of a void * pointer? |
| 17:42.18 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 49 Tests of a value against zero should be made explicitm unless the operand is effectively Boolean |
| 17:42.20 | CosmicPenguin | yes! |
| 17:43.21 | CosmicPenguin | The goto statement shall not be used |
| 17:43.27 | kergoth | pfft |
| 17:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | bullsh*t! |
| 17:43.33 | kergoth | goto has its uses, particularly for errror handling |
| 17:45.54 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 57 - The continue statement shall not be used |
| 17:46.00 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 58 - The break statement shall not be used |
| 17:46.07 | CosmicPenguin | All required |
| 17:46.25 | CosmicPenguin | I think its safe to say that the LInux kernel will not be appearing in an automotive vehicle near you any time soon |
| 17:47.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what rule book is this? |
| 17:47.37 | CosmicPenguin | Motor vehicle standards |
| 17:49.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: for software? |
| 17:51.33 | CosmicPenguin | C |
| 17:51.58 | CosmicPenguin | Most of them ar pretty good |
| 17:52.06 | CosmicPenguin | but there are a few I disagree with |
| 17:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | Of course, lots of these have to do with the safety of human beings |
| 17:53.23 | CosmicPenguin | so I understand the restrictiveness |
| 17:54.03 | CosmicPenguin | but its clear why rtos code like that is often written from scratch |
| 17:54.12 | CosmicPenguin | Rule 70 - functions shall not call themselves, either diectly or indirectly |
| 17:54.26 | file | oh but I want to |
| 17:54.38 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: heh, cant blame them too much there |
| 17:54.54 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, me too |
| 17:55.07 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: but that involves a lot more thought into your kernel design |
| 17:55.26 | kergoth | bleh, i need to 1) start bringing lunches to work, and 2) buy an espresso machine |
| 17:55.37 | kergoth | spending way too much money on lunch/coffee |
| 17:55.46 | CosmicPenguin | Apparently - Lint 8.0 does MISRA checking |
| 17:55.50 | CosmicPenguin | Cool |
| 17:55.58 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:56.33 | file | why do clients think that when they signup for your service they're entitled to having you configure their system for them? |
| 17:56.43 | CosmicPenguin | Of the 70 rules Ive read so far, I really only disagree with three or four for general code correctness |
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| 17:58.27 | file | now he wants me to guide him through the signup process |
| 17:59.30 | CosmicPenguin | Ok |
| 17:59.37 | CosmicPenguin | So rule 82 is - A function should have a single point of exit |
| 17:59.55 | CosmicPenguin | which is why we use goto in the first place! |
| 18:00.09 | kergoth | hehe, indeed |
| 18:01.31 | sorphin | clear |
| 18:01.33 | sorphin | grr |
| 18:07.24 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - they say not to use errno |
| 18:07.42 | CosmicPenguin | "errno' if a facility of C whic hin theory should be useful, but in practice is poorly defined |
| 18:07.43 | CosmicPenguin | I agree |
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| 18:27.59 | kergoth | its improved in recent 2.6, but can still be a pain in the ass. |
| 18:28.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:29.20 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:29.22 | jbevren | f/e |
| 18:29.33 | jbevren | my 2.6.8.1 system can only see the first usb blockdev in my multi-card reader |
| 18:29.38 | jbevren | 2.6.11 can see them all |
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| 19:15.37 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 19:33.35 | prpplague | pb_: ho ho ho |
| 19:33.42 | prpplague | pb_: whats cookin? |
| 19:33.55 | pb_ | hi plague |
| 19:34.04 | pb_ | not too much, just trying to fix an automake problem |
| 19:43.48 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher mr phil |
| 19:43.59 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
| 19:44.37 | sorphin | pb_: alright? |
| 19:45.13 | pb_ | yah, not too bad |
| 19:56.41 | kergoth | hmm, i should set up a uml for testing |
| 19:57.53 | pb_ | good plan |
| 19:58.14 | kergoth | considering my target platform is x86 now, itd be a real timesaver. heh. |
| 19:58.24 | pb_ | I need to figure out how to migrate one of our redhat installations into a uml instance. should try to get to grips with all this uml stuff. |
| 20:55.56 | Wingnut | does anyone know a couple different real-time linux distributions? |
| 20:56.08 | jbevren | . o O ( rtlinux? ) |
| 20:56.18 | CosmicPenguin | wtf is . o O |
| 20:56.38 | CosmicPenguin | if you're thinking rtlinux, just say rtlinux |
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| 21:03.12 | CosmicPenguin | frustration mounting, mounting! |
| 21:07.36 | ljp | umount frustration |
| 21:08.38 | kergoth_ | bleh |
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| 21:19.57 | CosmicPenguin | hmmmm.... |
| 21:23.33 | kergoth_ | ooh, i could put 3 or 4 uml instances on the same virtual network, but use vlan to construct my test environment within that network |
| 21:23.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth_: xen might also be interesting in that context |
| 21:24.13 | kergoth_ | hmm, yeah, need to look into that. know nothing about it |
| 21:30.58 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth_: what version of glibc did you compile up with --disable-tls? |
| 21:32.05 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: 2.3.3+cvs20050420. i havent tried the 2.3.5 snap. i tested 2.3.5 first, failed, then 2.3.3, failed, then tried --without-tls on a whim, and saw that it worked. |
| 21:32.26 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - yeah, I've never compiled anything over 2.3.2+CVS |
| 21:32.52 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 21:32.57 | kergoth_ | i hear linuxthreads is deprecated or something now eh |
| 21:34.12 | file[laptop] | mmm nptl |
| 21:36.41 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:37.30 | kergoth_ | mm this is gonna be easy. 3 uml instances, one of which with 4 interfaces all attached to the same virtual network with the other instances using multicast or daemon networking w/ uml |
| 21:37.44 | kergoth_ | and use vlan to segment it and make those 4 interfaces look like they're on seperate networks |
| 21:37.47 | kergoth_ | :) |
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| 22:20.30 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... I thought fd.o had a code structure specification |
| 22:20.35 | CosmicPenguin | but I guess it does not |
| 22:30.31 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... |
| 22:30.54 | CosmicPenguin | Should C++ files be .cpp or .cxx? |
| 22:30.55 | CosmicPenguin | or both? |
| 22:30.57 | CosmicPenguin | or .cc? |
| 22:32.10 | kergoth_ | heh, good question. personal preference. imho 'cpp' isnt a good acronym, it always makes me think about the c preprocessor for some reason |
| 22:33.44 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 22:33.51 | CosmicPenguin | I've never seen people use .hh for C++ header files |
| 22:33.51 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 22:33.58 | CosmicPenguin | thats strange looking to me |
| 22:34.10 | kergoth_ | .hh is weird. no reason to make them anything but .h imho |
| 22:34.14 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 22:34.21 | pb_ | yah, it's weird, but it's pretty common. |
| 22:34.41 | pb_ | .cc and .C seem to be the two most common extensions for source files, but .cpp and .cxx are pretty widespread too. |
| 22:35.13 | CosmicPenguin | If I had to choose one as a standard, which one should I go for? |
| 22:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | I'm leaning toward cxx |
| 22:35.27 | CosmicPenguin | but thats what I've always used |
| 22:35.33 | pb_ | .cc is my preference |
| 22:38.47 | sorphin | .cpp is normally what i see used, but yeah, it does remind you of the preprocessor |
| 22:39.13 | sorphin | . o O ( CosmicPenguin really needs to calm down ) |
| 22:39.15 | sorphin | :P |
| 22:40.02 | sorphin | i mean, i know you get all uptight w/ them making you wear those AMD hotpants and all, but don't take it out on the rest of us |
| 23:24.10 | CosmicPenguin | I don't like stupid IRC stuff - it makes me angry |
| 23:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | I am sick and tired of seeing this `shrink' method not supported |
| 23:27.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: uh.. the . o O is used places other than IRC dude |
| 23:28.07 | sorphin | file: make sure it's vallium :P |
| 23:28.21 | file | sodium pentathol so he can share his true feelings |
| 23:28.32 | sorphin | or sleep for a while |
| 23:28.44 | sorphin | since that's what general anesthesia is |
| 23:32.24 | sorphin | file: what's up mr file? |
| 23:32.50 | file | just got a meeting notification in my e-mail... oh joy |
| 23:33.00 | sorphin | yuck |
| 23:33.18 | file | Thursday @ 6PM |
| 23:33.26 | file | for something I can't talk about |
| 23:33.35 | file | but is also related to a business meeting in October |
| 23:33.44 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:34.56 | file | it's been a quiet day |
| 23:35.36 | file | that means tomorrow... is deadly |
| 23:36.24 | sorphin | sounds more like Linus is acting like one of those other companies out there |
| 23:36.39 | file | sorphin: would you like to license my Asterisk solution?!? :P |
| 23:36.51 | sorphin | one of which is RedHAt, w/ the whole don't use our mark on CentOS crap |
| 23:37.20 | sorphin | file: did you pay for a license to use the Asterisk Trademark? :P |
| 23:37.36 | file | :P |
| 23:37.54 | file | IAX is a trademark too |
| 23:37.56 | sorphin | and if you ever use the ClueBat |
| 23:38.02 | sorphin | you have to pay me :P |
| 23:38.06 | file | pfft |
| 23:38.13 | sorphin | ~cluebat file |
| 23:38.14 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps file. |
| 23:38.18 | sorphin | :P |
| 23:38.21 | file | brb |
| 23:38.23 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:39.21 | file | anddddd back |
| 23:39.53 | sorphin | eeek |
| 23:39.57 | file | I think I'm going to setup a support system for Asterlink |
| 23:40.10 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:40.19 | file | right now they land straight in my mailbox |
| 23:40.29 | sorphin | you want support? go buy some underwear :P |
| 23:40.34 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:40.43 | file | pfft |
| 23:41.16 | file | the question is, where do I put it? |
| 23:41.25 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.33 | file | cube1? great idea |
| 23:41.53 | sorphin | eh? |
| 23:42.07 | file | 'tis my box I use at work... for stuff |
| 23:42.15 | sorphin | eh |
| 23:43.09 | sorphin | heh, i don't even post and i've gotten mod points twice in the past 1.5 months |
| 23:44.47 | sorphin | i guess i shoulda mentioned that was liquid nitrogen i froze them in |
| 23:44.48 | sorphin | oops |
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