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12:58.04prpplagueomg, /. is down
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13:14.17sorphinprpplague: eh.. seen that before
13:31.32chouimathttp://www.askmen.com/jokes/current/index.html
13:37.19prpplaguechouimat: 404
13:38.00chouimatprpplague: worksforme
13:40.14prpplagueodd its working now
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13:50.07sorphinT0mW: moin tommy
13:50.16T0mWgood morning
13:50.22chouimathi T0mW sorphin
13:50.35T0mWchouimat: working yet?
13:51.06chouimatT0mW: still looking ... lot of boring contracts ... and leaving for Spain wednesday (kde conference)
13:51.17T0mWchouimat: winter is coming, got to have some means of paying for expensive heat
13:54.48chouimatT0mW: the heat, water and electricity are included in the price of my apartment ... and I'm looking to probably start my own co ... but I need more time to write a business plan ... currently trying to get my presentation ready
13:58.18sorphinKDE R Us
13:58.29chouimatsorphin: :)
13:58.48T0mWchouimat: sounds like you are looking for a boss^H^H^H^H investors.
13:59.04sorphinas the army of PHBs approach
13:59.14T0mWPHI
13:59.20sorphinsame difference
13:59.22T0mWpointy haired investors
13:59.29T0mW;-)
14:00.24chouimatT0mW: yup ... that the f* problems ... but if I win lottery :)
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14:04.17CP|WeekendLots of e-mail, nothing interesting
14:14.30CosmicPenguinis this thing on?
14:15.13sorphinnope
14:18.56chouimathi CosmicPenguin
14:28.20CosmicPenguinI feel like crap
14:38.54sorphinour new tmobile oncall phone just got changed to a blackberry.. oh joy
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15:06.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: me too
15:06.49prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've been sick all weekend
15:07.12file[lap1op]eep
15:07.13prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you feeling bad due to general work stuff, or are you getting the flu like me
15:19.54CosmicPenguinDrank way too much on Saturdsay
15:19.57CosmicPenguinSaturday even
15:24.32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ahh
15:37.52CosmicPenguincome onnn productivity
15:39.49kergoth`bleh
15:45.11pb_hi kergoth
15:46.00CosmicPenguingah
15:46.29kergoth`http://terminus.sk/~marek/prog/ipt_sysrq.shtml
15:46.35kergoth`neat
15:46.49CosmicPenguinSo many OE changes to merge
15:47.59CosmicPenguinsigh - 97.5% of my SD transactions are waiting for the process to switch back in
15:50.10jbevrenkergoth: indee
15:50.12jbevrend
16:02.23CosmicPenguinIts bad when you feel hungover two days *after* you drank
16:03.01kergoth`hehe
16:15.12Croftonthat happened to me once
16:15.17Croftonwell more than once
16:15.28kergoth`CosmicPenguin: by chance have you been able to get approval to release your imagey bits for your oe syslinux stuff?
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16:15.35Croftonbut the really bad hangover was what started as a really bad hangover
16:15.46Croftonand turned into a raging tooth ache
16:15.54kergoth`eep
16:16.07CroftonI had to beg the sentist to see me
16:16.24Croftonthat led to a root canal and silver coloured tooth
16:17.00CosmicPenguinkergoth: yes and no - yes in that they approved it, no in that they want me to put it on our technical marketing website first, which may take weeks
16:17.59kergoth`ahh, fun
16:18.04kergoth`gotta love big companies
16:18.47Croftonwell, if he doesn't do the marketing stuff first, he never will :)
16:18.52CroftonI see the logic
16:24.41prpplagueT0mW: i removed that reset chip
16:24.54prpplagueT0mW: and just added a jumper to ground out the reset
16:25.00prpplagueT0mW: seems to work
16:25.31T0mWprpplague: heh, you now have the title of hardware hacker too.
16:26.15prpplaguehehe
16:26.51prpplagueT0mW: works out as a handy way to program and test the nand flash
16:29.39CosmicPenguinlets get something done
16:29.44CosmicPenguinhup two, hup three
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16:31.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: jeeze you too?
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16:32.12CosmicPenguinAlways
16:33.04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i have a boat load of work to do, and i'm moving at a snails pace today
16:33.23CosmicPenguinI've got this strange combination of engineering and planning tasks
16:33.32CosmicPenguinso its like - schedule resources for the next 6 months, and write a perl script
16:35.09prpplaguelovely
16:36.00CosmicPenguinBTW, I got a decent chunk of change to help promote Geode in the  community
16:36.07CosmicPenguinso if anybody has any ideas on how I can spend it, let me know... :)
16:37.11prpplaguegeode chip key chains?
16:37.33CosmicPenguinheh
16:37.44CosmicPenguinthat would be a scary large key chain
16:38.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, whats the target? developers, end users, hackers?
16:39.18CosmicPenguinIn my opinion, hackers
16:40.06CosmicPenguinMy ideal target is a skilled consultant looking to support or recommend hardware
16:40.22CosmicPenguinI want to make it easy for him to get such hardware, and support it when he does
16:40.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: then if i were you, i'd look at how circuit cellar does their dev contests
16:41.03CosmicPenguinI've never been very high on dev contests, simply because its hard to encourage development on a platform nobody has
16:41.17prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats just it
16:41.41prpplagueCosmicPenguin: when cc does a contest, they have a special deal for those who enter the contest on purchasing the platform
16:41.51CosmicPenguinHell, if we had a contest, we would give them away
16:41.55prpplagueCosmicPenguin: like the recent LPC philips contest
16:42.22CosmicPenguinbut the question is - can we encourage the right projects with such a limited audience
16:42.24prpplagueCosmicPenguin: they charged like $14.99 for the dev platform plus shipping
16:42.38prpplaguedefien "right" projects
16:43.07CosmicPenguinWell - whats your motivation to produce a project with value with such a small and limited audience?
16:43.27CosmicPenguinIn other words, somebody might enter a contest, and make themselves a PVR (for example)
16:44.05CosmicPenguinBut what we want to encourage is a PVR project that would drive further Geode sales, but it would be hard to generate and keep the energy when nobody else is going to participate
16:44.29CosmicPenguinAnd I'm acutely aware of that, and trying my damned to change that
16:44.34CosmicPenguinbut I'm up against some stiff opposition
16:46.04prpplagueCosmicPenguin: not sure i understand the "nobody else is going to participate"  part
16:48.11kergoth`the zaurus hacking and app development really got kicked off well by sharp doing their contest with the cheap development models
16:48.15prpplagueCosmicPenguin: what are the markets you are targeting? pvr, thin client, what else?
16:48.47prpplagueyea, that was the reason i purchase my first and then told abcsinc about them
16:58.12CosmicPenguinprpplague: pvr, thin client, and general purpose embedded
16:59.10CosmicPenguinasterisk would be interesting also print servers, firewalls things like that
16:59.24CosmicPenguinKiosk falls under thin client
16:59.33CosmicPenguinHome automation is a big one for me
17:00.00CosmicPenguinkergoth: I agree, but the Sharp was available to the average hacker, so projects maintained critical mass
17:00.11CosmicPenguinmore or less
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17:01.50Croftoncrap, sorry
17:01.59CroftonDoes Geode have a FPU?
17:02.10CosmicPenguinYeah - full i486 compatiblity
17:02.24CosmicPenguini586, actually, but the pipeline isn't the same as the Intel chip
17:02.26CosmicPenguinso
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17:47.28prpplaguew00t!
17:47.37prpplaguedonna's visa finally came through
17:50.13CosmicPenguinThe Anders are going to disneyland!
17:53.23filewoot
17:53.25fileI think.
18:11.51jbevrenwhat exactly is so attractive about a amusement-park vacation that costs more than your cars?
18:12.35CosmicPenguinWell, for one thing, it pisses off so many people when they can't figure out the difference between reality and sarcasm
18:13.28jbevrenthat wasnt actually targeted at you :)
18:13.37CosmicPenguinBut mine was targeted at you
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18:13.48jbevrenI just have no reason to pay so much for a vacation unless I'm going overseas heh
18:14.23prpplaguehehe
18:14.47jbevren(specifically, to amsterdam, to spend wads on good .. uh.. smokes.)
18:21.05T`anyone have experience with ipmi?
18:30.48sorphinuhh
18:31.07sorphinprpplague: what does it matter if you're staying outside the US? or are you gonna emegrate back?
18:31.33sorphinjbevren: my vacation next month costs nothing near what my car costs :P
18:33.07CosmicPenguinibot: spell emegrate
18:45.07jbevrensorphin :)
18:48.05prpplaguesorphin: well we had been trying for over a year to get a visa
18:48.17prpplaguesorphin: just funny that after we leave they decide to send us one
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19:23.42sorphinprpplague: indeed
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23:39.09CosmicPenguinkergoth: I made my imgloader app understand the disk identity information - now I can make a image with OE that will boot with SimNow

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