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00:22.01GPSFansorphin: evenin.. did you get any clue from the guy woth the ppc boards as to when he would ship, and if a tracking # would be provided?
00:40.49sorphinGPSFan: negative. i prodded him about it in email today
00:41.07sorphinGPSFan: i'm assuming you paypal'd too?
00:41.15sorphinand there will likely be tracking since it's prolly UPS
00:42.17sorphinGPSFan: if he doesn't respond soon, i'll look up his contact info on ebay and call
00:50.09sorphinah
00:50.11sorphinthe truth comes out
00:50.15sorphinSCO steals linux code
00:50.17sorphinnot the other way around
00:51.04sorphinnot surprising
00:51.36sorphinno different than Intel magically coming up with proper 64 bit stuff AFTER amd releases their cpus
00:53.52GPSFansorphin: thanks, just wondered..
00:53.59sorphin[mini]understandable
00:54.12sorphin[mini]if i'm gonna ship something and it's not gonna be w/in a day or 2
00:54.16sorphin[mini]i email to let them know
00:54.39GPSFanyep, me too. cul, off to the movies..
00:54.47sorphin[mini]k
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01:07.03sorphini see this new code is so much more reliable... NOT
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03:18.19jbevrenhttp://fun.drno.de/pics/friedlich_vereint.jpg
03:18.21jbevrenhehe
03:18.23jbevren(safe for work)
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03:22.55sorphinheh
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03:28.13jbevren:-O
03:28.15jbevrenhttp://fun.drno.de/pics/filserver.jpg
03:29.50sorphinheh
03:30.09sorphinugly
03:30.36sorphinatleast 36 drives there
03:37.25jbevrenok tired
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03:38.46sorphincya
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05:44.41fishheadhttp://www.corsairmemory.com/memory_basics/153707/ <--- anyone who would like a nice slideshow on memory basics
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13:42.44pb_hi plague
13:45.01prpplaguepb_: hey hey
13:45.06prpplaguepb_: whats cookin?
14:00.56pb_!
14:01.05pb_gotta be careful when shaving your nose, I guess
14:11.33prpplaguepb_: hehe, i was trimming the top of my mustache
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14:27.14prpplagueAMDPenguin: morning
14:27.22prpplagueAMDPenguin: wyse has a new tc out
14:27.25prpplagueAMDPenguin: really nice
14:28.21CosmicPenguinhttp://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=2430065&affid=10000483
14:28.23CosmicPenguinThat one?
14:29.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no this one - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9346577075.html
14:29.52CosmicPenguinThats almost exactly the same
14:29.53CosmicPenguinseesh
14:30.20CosmicPenguinA little bit faster, but the Crusoe runs slow anyway
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14:42.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: uh no
14:42.09prpplagueCosmicPenguin: it has a pcmcia slot and smart card
14:42.15prpplagueCosmicPenguin: plus it has two serial ports
14:42.56CosmicPenguinYou know, I don't walk around talking smack about all of your companies all the time
14:43.00CosmicPenguinbah
14:43.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'd buy that one over the geode based one any day, even if it was double the cost
14:43.05CosmicPenguinI've got more important things to do
14:43.09prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
14:43.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: :D
14:43.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: no offense intended
14:43.49prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, just one of those things for thin clients, you gotta have serial ports
14:45.03Wingnutprpplague: ever find out when you'd get back on Sat?
14:49.59prpplagueWingnut: naw, things are still up in the air so to speak
14:50.18Wingnutany idea when you might find out?
14:50.23prpplagueWingnut: i have to go to the INS office friday morning
14:50.29Wingnutah
14:50.32prpplagueWingnut: probably tomorrow
14:51.12Wingnuthopefully _you_ won't be up in the air Friday afternoon
14:51.20prpplagueWingnut: hehe
14:51.36prpplagueWingnut: naw, i'm ok as i'm still a US citizen
14:51.42prpplagueWingnut: its my wife that has trouble
14:51.48Wingnutahh...
14:52.29prpplagueWingnut: i'll be back in september for so more meetings, might be better to schedule a LUG luncheon then
14:53.01WingnutI can do that...let me know when your schedule becomes a little more solid and I'll arrange everything
14:53.21prpplagueWingnut: cool
14:53.26prpplaguekergoth: hey congrads
14:53.29kergoththanks
14:53.45prpplaguekergoth: i was starting to get worried about you old chap
14:53.51kergothhehe
14:54.06kergothdunno how long i'll keep it, but at least i've got cash flowing
14:54.11prpplagueyea
14:54.19prpplagueargh, my nose hurts
14:54.27pb_kergoth: cool, what's the job?
14:54.43prpplaguenote to self: avoid cutting nose, it really hurtts
14:55.00pb_good plan
14:55.19kergothhttp://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/e/b/eb1b615258c9706ef2d8b4657328cfb2@activejobs0&c=1&source=1
14:55.37kergothpays less than i made at ti, but staying at my townhouse with my dad, my expenses are pretty low, so this'll do
14:55.41prpplaguepb_: worst part it looks disgusting, looks like i have a bugger on my nose
14:55.45kergothhehe
14:56.33prpplaguekergoth: hehe, why not grab a plane ticket and come visit barbados? hehe
14:56.48kergothwhen i need a vacation i probably will :)
14:57.00kergothand when i'm less horribly horribly broke, naturally
14:57.09prpplaguehehe
14:59.01chouimathttp://kqe.de/pruell/bruteforce-cat.jpg <--- wow someone had a lot of time of his hand ...
15:09.06prpplagueanyone using EAP for their wireless stuff?
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15:25.15prpplaguesjhill: hooo hooo hooo
15:26.07sjhillprpplague: they have owls in Barbados?
15:26.46prpplaguesjhill: not that i am aware of
15:26.50prpplaguesjhill: lots of bats
15:27.26sjhillheh
15:30.43pb_grr, crazy xilinx tools insist on talking to X over tcp
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15:35.01pb_hrm, that didn't help as much as I was hoping
15:38.08prpplaguepb_: hey, which EAP protcols are you using?
15:38.39prpplagueCosmicPenguin: did you not try to get LEAP running on linux for your office?
15:40.23pb_prpplague: none at the moment
15:40.56CosmicPenguinprpplague: not yet
15:41.23prpplaguepb_: oh
15:41.35prpplaguepb_: so your just running WPA-PSK?
15:41.51prpplagueCosmicPenguin: so you are just gonna do PEAP?
15:42.23pb_prpplague: right
15:42.57prpplaguepb_: hmm
15:43.10prpplaguepb_: we are getting alot of calls about using EAP-PEAP and EAP-LEAP
15:43.24sjhillwhat is EAP, PEAP and LEAP?
15:44.20CosmicPenguinprpplague: oh, wait
15:44.36CosmicPenguinyeah - I'm running Cisco LEAP right now with their binaries
15:44.51CosmicPenguinbut I want to move to PEAP because its better
15:45.07CosmicPenguinBut i haven't had a chance to get it setup
15:45.24prpplagueCosmicPenguin: "their binaries" ?
15:45.32prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you are not using wpa_supplicant?
15:45.33CosmicPenguinOff the CD, even
15:45.43prpplagueahh
15:45.46CosmicPenguinwpa_supplicant doesn't work for our APs
15:45.51CosmicPenguinIts Cisco or the highway
15:45.56prpplagueinteresting
15:46.14prpplagueCosmicPenguin: do they have arm binaries?
15:46.22CosmicPenguinVery doubtful
15:46.27prpplaguehmm
15:46.33CosmicPenguinYou might check the website
15:46.38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: will do
15:46.46CosmicPenguinBut you need a pcmcia card that will hande it
15:46.57CosmicPenguinwe all have to use Cisco cards here (or at least we did, before PEAP came to town)
15:47.07prpplagueahh
15:47.23prpplaguethere is soooo little info on LEAP
15:49.46prpplaguetrying to figure out an easy way to retrieve certificates to the handheld
16:06.36CosmicPenguinpcmcia IDE is almost always PIO right?
16:06.48CosmicPenguinIs there a hidden way to DMA it that I didn't know about?
16:06.52CosmicPenguins/didn't/don't/
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16:13.17prpplagueCosmicPenguin: t0mw would know about thtat
16:13.41prpplagueCosmicPenguin: there is a good article from circuit cellar about controlling pcmcia ide
16:13.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: iirc
16:19.51CosmicPenguinI've got a guy telling me to set up DMA for PCMCIA IDE, and I;m sitting here thinking that DMA assisted PIO isn't going to buy me anything
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17:19.27kergothsorphin: new desk?
17:19.35kergothsorphin: i start at my job tomorrow :)
17:19.57file[laptop]desks are evilk
17:19.59sorphinkergoth: my whole group got moved because we apparently make too much noise for our director, so we got moved way back by out sr manager
17:20.02sorphinour even
17:20.02CosmicPenguinI predict 36 hours before the machine configuration appears in OE... :)
17:20.09kergothsorphin: ahhh, that sucks
17:20.16kergothCosmicPenguin: hehe, thats probably about right :)
17:20.25sorphinkergoth: indeed... and good deal about the job
17:20.27CosmicPenguinsorphin: too many rubber band fights?
17:20.33sorphinCosmicPenguin: not quite..
17:21.25CosmicPenguinOr not enough?
17:24.11sorphinthe other guys listen to stuff loud, etc.. that's a big factor.. the other, is me, unfortunately.. my chronic sinusitis makes me clear my throat a lot, and the duct work here is like a megaphone into his office, down by where we were.. so....
17:24.49prpplaguesorphin: hey crack whore
17:24.56prpplaguesorphin: you do any wpa stuff
17:25.01prpplaguesorphin: ?
17:26.33sorphinprpplague: negative, not wpa, just regular 128bit wep
17:26.46prpplaguehmm
17:27.32prpplaguei wish i knew someone using EAP-TLS or EAP-PEAP
17:28.23sorphinfile[desk]: just don't start chasing your tail
17:29.09file[laptop]meep
17:35.28jbevrenwee
17:35.35sorphinheh
17:35.45sorphinjbevren: emailed the monkey again, cuz i've still heard nothing
17:35.57sorphinif nothing by friday, i'm calling the fscker
17:37.30CosmicPenguinfight the power
17:37.40CosmicPenguinsyslinux home page is down
17:38.15file[laptop]yay call
17:41.02GPSFansorphin: morning.. I got e-mail about an hour after e-mailing the, got a tracking #, and it on the truck for delivery today.
17:41.13GPSFans/the/them
17:42.41sorphinGPSFan: when? today?
17:43.26file[laptop]what do I dare inquire is going on amongst the elinux community now :P
17:43.28sorphini paypaled the night we bought then
17:43.45CosmicPenguinEverybody is doing the same thing we've always done
17:43.50sorphinso.. mine should be here today then, since i'm closer to MD than your are
17:43.56CosmicPenguinpart of us are doing it in a different location, but...
17:44.03sorphinunless they haven't evne shipped mine yet, w/ my luck
17:44.04file[laptop]utter madness?
17:44.19sorphinfile[laptop]: of course
17:45.56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you said wpa_supplicant wouldn't work with the cisco ap's you had?
17:46.14CosmicPenguinNot before
17:46.19CosmicPenguinWell, not with LEAP
17:46.26prpplaguehmm
17:46.30CosmicPenguinBut now we're doing PEAP, so I'm optimistic
17:51.04GPSFansorphin: yep, I sent them email via ebay at about 7amMDT and got a reply at about 8am MDT, checked the tracking # and it out for delivery, I'm expecting it any time now.
17:51.56GPSFansorphin: comming via FedEx EasySaver.
17:52.30file[laptop]what did you guys get now?
17:53.03GPSFanfile[laptop]: ppc embeded board/chassis
17:53.24file[laptop]ah
17:55.38jbevrenGPSFan: ah, you got one too eh?
17:58.31GPSFanjbevren: yeah, just one. should have gotten 2 but I've got too much stuff as it is. ;>)
18:00.44sorphinGPSFan: he's auctioning the rest now
18:00.46jbevrenhehe
18:00.47jbevrensame here
18:01.05sorphinGPSFan: maybe mine'll be here today too since we paid the same day and i'm closer :P
18:01.09sorphinwe'll see
18:01.16sorphinnothing yet.. cuz i'm at home atm, and no package :P
18:01.28GPSFansorphin: well if they turn out to be really good, maybe I'll spring for another.
18:08.17GPSFansorphin:feded just drove up...
18:08.22sorphincool
18:08.35sorphinif mine show up today at all, it'll be later
18:08.46sorphinnever come this damn early, no matter where i live, heh
18:12.49sorphinGPSFan: well, let us know how it is
18:13.13sorphinif i'd known it'd take this long i woulda just bid, instead of paying the $75
18:15.55GPSFansorphin: unpacking it now, sofar, did not come with the antennas, but does have 2 rpsma-ufl pigtails, CD, printed quick start guide, hardware ref manual, SW ref manual.
18:16.29sorphinuhh
18:16.32file[desk]URL?
18:16.36sorphinhow showed it w/ the antennas
18:16.40sorphinso they should be with it
18:16.41sorphin:P
18:16.54sorphinfile[desk]: http://127.0.0.1/
18:17.01file[desk]WoW!
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18:18.56GPSFansorphin: yep, I agree, I'll email them about that after I power it up and check out operation.
18:19.07sorphink
18:19.07jbevrenView Seller's Other Items  
18:19.11jbevrengrr
18:19.33sorphin?
18:19.36jbevrenmispaste
18:23.25file[desk]eep
18:28.12sorphinGPSFan: what's the url below Via Technologies? :)
18:28.16sorphinsince someone finally has a board
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18:40.53GPSFanthat's gda technologies, and it's www.gdatech.com , btw it boots, but it wants to connect to some web site or something, and there is no login prompt. still fiddling...
18:41.35sorphinah
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18:52.21file[laptop]hax0r it GPSFan
18:53.43GPSFansorphin: may need to load a new ramdisk via jtag, or the net, the current image doesn't seem to have a login on ttys0. and when the net is plugged in it trys to connect to some ftp site that it can't get to then resets the syste,. if there is no net, it just stops after lots of startup messages.
18:54.21jbevrendo you get anything from a debugger pre-boot?
18:54.32GPSFansorphin: the cd is pretty complete, docs, ramdisk & kernel bins, linux sources, cross tools
18:55.47GPSFanjbevren: oh, yes, I can get into the ppc boot monitor, so it shouldnt be too hard to gen up a new ramdisk and download it. I've done it alot with the Zipit and my MPC750 ppc CPCI board.
18:56.19jbevrennod
18:56.33jbevrenwell, I figured it might be possible to modify the kernel cmdline (init=/bin/sh) with it :)
18:57.23GPSFanjbevren: I'll give it a try.
18:57.49jbevrentrying now?  No rush, I can check back when i return :)
18:58.01file[laptop]now now now
18:58.14jbevrenhehe
18:58.29jbevrenI might have to build me a jtag cable :)
18:59.20jbevren. o O ( must be trying )
19:00.22GPSFanwait...
19:00.38jbevrenwaiting patiently :) (ok, somewhat anxiously, but patiently)
19:02.08GPSFanjbevren: worked, i have aprompt!!
19:02.13jbevrenWOOT!
19:02.24jbevrenok I'll be back after a while
19:02.38GPSFanme too, time for lunch..
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19:09.26CosmicPenguindon't say woot
19:09.54Croftonw00t
19:10.31file[laptop]wootsy
19:10.57CosmicPenguinI'll turn this room around right now if you kids don't stop it
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19:11.54DeltaFHey guys.. I'm curious - is elinux.org having some load issues or what?
19:12.25file[laptop]CosmicPenguin: but... but! ok.
19:13.22DeltaFI just ordered a ZipIt - I can't wait!
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19:34.37sorphinGPSFan: sweet
19:37.20GPSFansorphin: yep, it looks like it was set up as some sort of wireless router/accesspoint, the init scripts are what are keeping it from booting properly, I think it will be cool. the cd seems to be the full sdk.
19:37.30CosmicPenguinhothothot
19:38.21GPSFanCosmicPenguin: no, it runs cool, cool, cool ;>)
19:38.48CosmicPenguinI don't even know why I hang out with you people
19:38.48sorphinGPSFan: awesome, now if mine'll just show up, heh
19:38.55sorphinCosmicPenguin: yes you do
19:40.09CosmicPenguinglutton for punishment?
19:40.18GPSFansorphin: interesting, the hw ref manual says that the PCI slots are 33MHz. has an I2C controller as well.
19:43.33GPSFansorphin: ethernet if works.
19:47.45DeltaFAnyone else having latency problems with elinux.org's website?
19:59.07jbevren(backscroll to catch up)
20:01.24jbevrenDeltaF: its not too bad atm
20:07.28sorphinGPSFan: well, the slots SHOULD be 66mhz tho..
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20:13.45GPSFansorphin: just reporting what the manual says..
20:14.37GPSFanthe CPU is capable of 66MHz operation, but it says the A3000 is config'd for 3.3v 32bit 33MHz operation.
20:24.04DeltaFjbevren: But does it seem to choke occasionally for you?
20:24.22jbevrenI havent browsed it much today
20:25.27DeltaFDoes it reboot early morning?
20:25.38DeltaFI had some timeouts last night ~2am.
20:32.46GPSFansorphin: jbevren: the docs have the manuals in pdf form as well as a schematic. ;>)
20:32.56sorphinGPSFan: schematic eh? coool
20:37.24GPSFanyep, there is a place on the board for a 68HC908, but it's not populated, but that means that the second serial port of the CPU is available on a header.
20:41.57sorphinGPSFan: once again his description lied then
20:42.03sorphinit said it had one
20:44.27GPSFansorphin: not the description I got my box from, it did say 2 serial ports though.
20:45.37jbevrenGPSFan: so if I dont get docs, you can dcc me the pdf's? :)
20:45.49jbevrenI'm glad I stumbled on these :)
20:46.32GPSFanjb, you bet..
20:46.38jbevrenelite,thanks
20:48.26GPSFanjbevren: in his answers to questions, he sayn no docs, schematics, linux, etc. it's all on the CD. 170MB worth.
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20:48.47jbevrennod
20:48.59jbevrenI was wondering if he does that to cover for kits that dont have it (but some do)
20:49.00jbevren<PROTECTED>
20:49.09jbevrenThanks NO.
20:49.09jbevren:)
20:51.30GPSFanjbevren: the cd is a cdr without a label, and were printed docs, which he said were not included. and it was a she who answered my e-mail about the tracking #.
20:51.48GPSFango fugure...;>)
20:51.57GPSFans/fugure/figure
20:51.59jbevrenah
20:52.05jbevreninteresting
20:52.17jbevrenwoot got tracking ID
20:52.21jbevrendelivery friday probably
20:52.41GPSFanjbevren: mine came a day early from what fedex predicted.
20:52.43prpplaguejbevren: what device is this you are refering to?
20:53.00GPSFanprpplague: A3000
20:53.02prpplagueGPSFan:  "predicted" or "estimated"
20:53.10prpplagueGPSFan: i mean what kit?
20:53.58GPSFanhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ARTiS-Microsystems-A3000-Linux-Single-Board-Computer_W0QQitemZ5226398185QQcategoryZ162QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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21:02.30sorphinstill no email
21:02.34sorphinnada
21:02.35sorphinnothing
21:03.34sorphinthink i should call em?
21:04.10sorphinjbevren: cuz i paid before you
21:04.12sorphinheh
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21:09.44J4k3heh, mike jones bought that A3000 board?
21:09.47J4k3call him
21:09.53J4k3281-330-8004!
21:10.16J4k3(if you don't get that, google 'mike jones rapper')
21:10.16sorphinwho?
21:10.31J4k3http://cgi.ebay.com/ARTiS-Microsystems-A3000-Linux-Single-Board-Computer_W0QQitemZ5226398185QQcategoryZ162QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:10.50jbevrenjesus man just post the auction id :)
21:10.58J4k3well
21:11.06sorphinJ4k3: tinyurl is your friend ;)
21:11.19jbevrencould add tinyurl support to ibot :)
21:11.24J4k3so you want me to waste half a meg of internet traffic to post a url?
21:11.25J4k3geez.
21:11.37sorphinof just paste the item number
21:11.50J4k3bleh, nevermind.
21:11.51sorphinsome of us linewrap :P
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21:12.02sorphinuh
21:12.04sorphinok
21:12.44CosmicPenguinWow - tinyurl to ibot is a great idea
21:12.57CosmicPenguineverybody throw rocks at GvzEvxre until he does it
21:13.37CosmicPenguin~tinyurl <outragiously long url>
21:15.56sorphin:)
21:16.07sorphinCosmicPenguin: you know what timmy will say don't you?
21:16.11sorphin"Patches Welcome"
21:16.58CosmicPenguinYeah, but sometimes if you challenge him, he'll surprise you.... :)
21:18.10sorphinuh huh
21:18.50CosmicPenguinheh
21:19.46CosmicPenguind
21:32.13GPSFanManager, Operations
21:32.13GPSFanCognio Inc.
21:32.16GPSFan20400 Observation Drive
21:32.20GPSFanSuite 206
21:32.26GPSFanGermantown, MD 20876
21:32.30GPSFan301-540-4939
21:32.38GPSFanFax: 240-686-3411
21:34.26jbevrenoh hey
21:34.30jbevrenGPSFan: on that board is a URL
21:34.41jbevrensorphin and I were tryign to figure out what it is
21:36.27jbevrenwhat is it :)
21:40.02GPSFanwww.gdatech.com
21:40.12jbevrenahh
21:40.29jbevrenand now that you answer, I remember you saying that :P
21:40.30jbevrenhehe
21:46.41jbevrenhttp://fun.drno.de/pics/computerkillers/yellow_wall.jpg
21:46.42jbevrenhah.
21:46.48jbevrenthats a network if Ive seen one
21:53.16CosmicPenguinTinderbox is so cute that it has a little animated gif of fire that it puts up when the build fails
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21:56.52TimRikerthere is a tinyurl module for some flavor of infobot. It would be easy to port if someone finds one.
22:00.19sorphinGPSFan: they're here now
22:00.22sorphinwoo
22:00.35sorphinguess i'll mail them and tell them i got em, heh
22:00.47sorphinand as soon as i test them, positive feedback
22:00.57sorphincourse w/ their responsiveness i doubt i'll get any back
22:06.10sorphinGPSFan: my quick setup guide gives a username/pw for root and tells terminal settings, heh and has the cd too
22:08.19sorphinGPSFan: the 2 serial ports.. it just means the board has 2 on it..
22:08.44sorphinheh, one of these the backplane was out of it, better check for damage :P
22:11.51sorphinCosmicPenguin: heh
22:15.14sorphinGPSFan: btw.. look on the 5 1/2 bay panel
22:15.20sorphinmentions a Sensor #, etc, etc
22:15.38sorphinand their address is Observation Drive.. wonder if these mighta been sensors for something possibly
22:17.38sorphincool you can 'implement more flash' on the Port-X interface
22:25.12sorphin<PROTECTED>
22:25.12sorphinyay
22:28.38sorphinGPSFan: i don't see anything in the schematic mentioning that port-x interface
22:29.24sorphinah there it is
22:38.29sorphinGPSFan: heh, one of them, one of the standoffs snapped off into the case, won't be getting that out, heh
22:39.14GPSFansorphin: cool, I e-mail them about the antennas and they are sending them to me tomorrow. I had 4 plastic standoffs snapped of on the case. epoxy...
22:39.55GPSFanbbiab...
22:40.14file[laptop]so... why did everyone hop on these?
22:40.25jbevrenport-x interface?
22:40.32jbevrencause theyre cheap
22:40.52jbevrenmost non-x86 sbc's are $$$
22:41.08file[laptop]but what will you use it for? ;)
22:41.21jbevrenedumication
22:41.41jbevrengo ask your girlfriend what she uses all those shoes for
22:42.09sorphinfile doesn't have one atm that i know of
22:42.17sorphinbut atleast he HAS had one
22:42.22jbevrens/gf/mom/
22:42.23sorphinunlike someone we know and hate ;)
22:42.25jbevrenor sister
22:42.27jbevrenor any woman
22:44.07jbevren:)
22:44.37jbevrenI dont question people's [magic|baseball|whatever] cards, cars, shoes, hats, buttons, stamps, or sex toys.
22:44.42jbevrenthey have no right to question my computers :)
22:45.03jbevrenbaseball cards especially
22:45.06jbevrenwtf do you do with those?
22:45.19jbevren. o O ( put 'em in a box )
22:45.23sorphinjbevren: or my traffic signals ;)
22:45.40jbevren'xactly
22:45.55sorphinjbevren: hope yours arrive in better shape
22:46.03sorphinken had some broken standoffs
22:46.11sorphini had 1 in one of them
22:46.26sorphini'd email about the antennas like he did
22:46.34sorphinbut seeing as i've yet to get even 1 reply
22:46.43sorphini'd have to prolly call to get results
22:46.54TheCollectorsorphin: you collect traffic signals?
22:47.08jbevrenhehe
22:47.12sorphinTheCollector: 3 atm
22:47.16sorphina 5 light doghouse
22:47.16TheCollectorcool
22:47.20sorphina normal 8 light
22:47.25sorphinerm
22:47.27jbevren8?
22:47.28sorphin3 light 8"
22:47.29jbevrenoh
22:47.31jbevrenhehe
22:47.37sorphinand a 12-8-8
22:47.51sorphinjbevren: taht's what the controller i'm buying is for and the triac ckt too
22:48.11sorphinunfortunately, this dude will only ship parcel post ($15 :/ )
22:48.26sorphinTheCollector: heh, local city had lights laying in the grass by where they're doing work
22:48.26TheCollectorjust need to get new lights for 'em
22:48.47sorphindidn't wanna just walk off w/ them w/ my current.... 'standing' with taht city
22:48.57sorphinsome were ok, some were broken
22:49.05sorphinthey wouldn't be reused tho
22:49.15sorphinTheCollector: so... do you want the series 1 or 2? :P
22:49.19sorphinso i know which one to prepare
22:49.28TheCollectorwhats the recording time on the S1?
22:49.28jbevren:)
22:49.49jbevrenI want to get into motion control
22:49.50sorphinTheCollector: uhh
22:49.50jbevrenmeh. hehe
22:49.58jbevrenI'd really love a cnc mill
22:50.17jbevrenjust a nice desktop one
22:50.28sorphinTheCollector: has a... 15G in it, but my old main one has the 15 and a 60, iirc, i forget now.. i can look at them tho
22:50.37sorphinjbevren: heh
22:50.38sorphinditto
22:51.17jbevrensorphin: theyre available(ish) at 900 bucks
22:51.19jbevrenthe desktop ones
22:51.24jbevren6x9x3" travel
22:51.25TheCollectorsorphin: the S2 is an 80hr, right?
22:51.33TheCollectorerm, 40hr
22:52.14sorphinTheCollector: i'll look again.. btw. i can actually make them whatever you want, or you could.. it's not that hard at all
22:52.24sorphinheh
22:52.35TheCollectorright - you just need the $ ;)
22:52.38sorphinjbevren: like i have taht kinda $
22:52.50sorphinTheCollector: from you, yes
22:52.54sorphinto do it, no
22:52.56jbevrensame here :(
22:53.00jbevrenthus the (ish) suffix
22:53.03TheCollectorright - I don't have that money
22:53.04sorphinit's trivial actually
22:53.14sorphinTheCollector: i know, you told me that
22:53.33sorphinjust make up your mind
22:53.36sorphinso i know what to do :P
22:54.01TheCollectorI'd like the S1, unless its like a 10hr model
22:54.11sorphinheh
22:54.14sorphini told you
22:54.25sorphini can make it bigger (i.e. switch to a 40G drive
22:54.32sorphin:P
22:54.49TheCollectorright, but I don't have the extra $$ to pay you to do that
22:55.16sorphindid i ask for any?
22:55.17sorphin:P
22:55.29sorphinno, i don't recall that i did
22:55.34TheCollector18:58 < TheCollector> right - you just need the $ ;)
22:55.34TheCollector18:58 <+sorphin> jbevren: like i have taht kinda $
22:55.34TheCollector18:59 <+sorphin> TheCollector: from you, yes
22:55.46TheCollectorI 'spose I misinterpreted that
22:55.49TheCollectorsorry
22:55.51sorphini misunderstood what you meant
22:55.55sorphini thought you meant the $80
22:55.57TheCollectorah
22:56.09sorphin~cluebat TheCollector for being unclear
22:56.09ibotACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps TheCollector for being unclear.
22:56.19sorphin:)
22:56.26sorphinjbevren: anxious yet? ;)
22:56.27TheCollectorwell, if you wouldn't mind switching the drives, that would be awesome
22:56.34sorphinTheCollector: i'll see what i can do
22:56.36jbevrensorphin: shaddup
22:56.37jbevren:)
22:56.38TheCollectorthanks
22:57.13sorphin"and the moral of the story children?"
22:57.22sorphin"don't muck up your paypal!" ;)
22:58.15jbevrenits a good thing actually
22:58.21jbevrenmy savings is growing ;-)
22:58.21sorphin?
22:58.23sorphinah
22:58.26jbevrenyou cant afford a $2k cnc
22:58.27jbevrenI can.
22:58.29jbevrenlol
22:58.31sorphinyou'd be too tempted?
22:58.32jbevrenbut I cant fully justify it
22:58.35jbevrenyep
22:58.36sorphinjbevren: uh
22:58.39sorphini also OWN a house
22:58.43sorphinand a Mini :P
22:58.46jbevrenand youre in debt :)
22:58.47jbevren<- not.
22:58.54jbevrennyaa
22:58.56sorphini'm in debt by choice
22:59.05jbevrennodnod
22:59.20sorphini could rent, etc.. and buy all toys
22:59.22jbevrendebt isnt in my 5year plan (of course, that plan is up in 2 years)
22:59.28sorphinheh
22:59.58sorphinok, wtf is my null modem adapter
23:00.04jbevren;grins
23:00.06jbevren; ?
23:00.06sorphinor am i gonna have to hook up to the 2511
23:00.08jbevrenmud lag
23:00.44sorphinjbevren: you should just alias ';' to /me
23:00.45sorphin:)
23:00.49jbevrenhehe
23:00.51jbevrentoo much work
23:00.56sorphinwuss
23:00.57jbevrenhmm
23:01.00jbevrenlinear actuators
23:01.17jbevrenwith power cables (servos?)
23:01.38sorphinheh
23:02.34jbevrenhmm 24" travel
23:02.41jbevrenI approve :)
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23:43.43jbevrenre file
23:43.53file...hi
23:44.41sorphinand now..
23:44.45sorphinjust to torture jbevren
23:44.47sorphinCPU:   MPC8245 Revision 16.20 at 299.999 MHz: 16 kB I-Cache 16 kB D-Cache                                                                        
23:44.47sorphinBoard: A3000 from Artis MicroSystems (www.artismicro.com)                                                        
23:44.47sorphin<PROTECTED>
23:44.50sorphin:)
23:45.09GPSFan;>)
23:45.25sorphini just used one of my rj45->db9 adapters
23:45.32GPSFanPPCBoot 1.1.6 (Jun 13 2003 - 12:18:58)
23:45.32GPSFanCPU:   MPC8245 Revision 16.20 at 299.999 MHz: 16 kB I-Cache 16 kB D-Cache
23:45.33GPSFanBoard: A3000 from Artis MicroSystems (www.artismicro.com)
23:45.33sorphinand a console cable for a cisco
23:45.35GPSFan<PROTECTED>
23:45.44fileI'm contemplating expanding my wireless network dang nabbit...
23:46.15sorphinGPSFan: quite a few 'hit any key' prompts
23:46.27sorphinapparently space doesn't qualify and any key
23:46.45filehrm... WR850G from Motorola... cheap
23:46.54sorphinfile: got one
23:47.06fileI just want something that does WDS to expand my network
23:47.14sorphinfile: it works fine
23:47.17sorphinit's my normal access point
23:47.21filenifty
23:47.22GPSFanreally? I wonder if all these have the same firmware? I didn't get any prompts other than from the bootloader
23:47.31sorphinGPSFan: hold
23:47.37sorphindamn thing's hanging hyperterm
23:48.25jbevrenfile: openWRT does WDS
23:48.26jbevren:-P
23:48.27filesorphin: did you hack it at all?
23:48.33filejbevren: this is cheap :P
23:48.45jbevrenthis = ?
23:48.51file$19.99 for a WR850G
23:48.55jbevrenah
23:48.55sorphinfile: that's what i paid
23:48.56filethat runs Linux.
23:49.02sorphinala compusa
23:49.20jbevrenthey run openwrt :P
23:49.21sorphinGPSFan: Hit any key for Diag.  Mode             :  0                                            
23:49.21sorphinFLASH:  8 MB            
23:49.21sorphinNet:   dp83815#0                
23:49.21sorphinHit any key to stop autoboot:  0                                
23:49.22sorphin## Booting image at ffe00000 ...          
23:49.23jbevren(or, they can)
23:49.28filehehe
23:49.30sorphinthey do
23:49.38sorphinthe native firmware is linux dude
23:49.40jbevrensorphin: not factory ;-) Thus, 'can'
23:49.43sorphinyes
23:49.44sorphinit is
23:49.48jbevrenthe native firmware isnt openwrt :-P
23:49.50sorphinno
23:49.53sorphinbut it IS linux
23:49.54jbevrenI know linksys loves linux ;-)
23:49.54fileyou two are picky :P
23:50.01jbevrenDigression
23:50.02filethis is Motorola :P
23:50.02sorphinso does motorola
23:50.03sorphinetc
23:50.12fileeveryone loves it!
23:50.15sorphinfile: they all use the same broadcom reference board
23:50.19filenaturally
23:50.19jbevrenthe monitor knows about eth eh?
23:50.23jbevrenyou can probably netboot it
23:50.40sorphinjbevren: it keeps hanging the terminal client :P
23:50.46sorphinand never responds to a keypress
23:50.49sorphinheh
23:51.05sorphinGPSFan: Image Type:   PowerPC Linux RAMDisk Image (gzip compressed)
23:51.57sorphinrunning 2.4.19-pre8

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