| 00:14.01 | sorphin | jbevren: you're hooked :P |
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| 03:51.32 | jbevren | hehe |
| 03:51.36 | jbevren | wait for a foggy morning :) |
| 03:51.40 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:51.44 | sorphin | and watch out for planes ;) |
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| 07:04.40 | sorphin | cdm: sup chris? |
| 07:05.35 | cdm | not too much. |
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| 07:29.08 | sorphin | andersee: hola |
| 07:29.36 | andersee | sorphin: howdy |
| 07:29.58 | sorphin | andersee: where'd you dig up that 1ghz ppc? |
| 07:30.58 | andersee | from freescale |
| 07:31.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 07:32.51 | andersee | sorphin: http://www.pegasosppc.com/pegasos.php |
| 07:33.32 | andersee | Pegasos II with 1GHz G4 processor: $499.00 |
| 07:34.37 | sorphin | ah, thought it was some freebie ;) |
| 07:35.41 | sorphin | heh neat |
| 07:35.44 | sorphin | you can 'try it out' |
| 07:36.39 | andersee | sorphin: of course you could buy a faster ppc -- the mac mini 1.25GB G4 w/ a radeon 9200, a 40GB a hard drive, and macosx is the same price... |
| 07:36.49 | sorphin | already have one ;) |
| 07:37.01 | sorphin | tho mine runs at 1.5ghz :) |
| 07:37.20 | sorphin | course my mini will never run linux |
| 07:37.24 | sorphin | so.. |
| 07:37.45 | andersee | buy a second one to run linux on then |
| 07:37.48 | andersee | :-) |
| 07:38.13 | sorphin | andersee: i think i'll just use the A3000's :) |
| 07:38.25 | sorphin | MPC8245 |
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| 09:46.55 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 11:51.20 | jbevren | yawn |
| 11:51.27 | jbevren | I hate waking up at 5 and not being able to sleep again |
| 11:51.34 | jbevren | grr :P |
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| 13:26.29 | fishhead | <fishhead> it's over |
| 13:26.29 | fishhead | <fishhead> palm has released a microsoft windowsce based treo |
| 13:26.29 | fishhead | <fishhead> palmsource is officially dead and I am stuck with a $400 pos |
| 13:27.50 | fishhead | http://www.engadget.com/ |
| 13:30.56 | fishhead | <fishhead> $400 for unit + $50 case + $50 ext warrenty + $100 for 1.0g and 512mb sd cards..........I am pondering using the return anytime option of my extended warrenty to get some of my $$$ back |
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| 16:26.22 | Shadowpillar | someone told me there's a bootloader called glob |
| 16:31.08 | Shadowpillar | anyone know of any minimalistic bootloaders? |
| 16:31.23 | jbevren | . o O ( denx? ) |
| 16:31.25 | jbevren | really I have no clue |
| 16:31.30 | jbevren | uboot too maybe |
| 16:31.48 | jbevren | but if you dont mind doing your own code, woudl it be too hard to load the kernel with your own program and jump to it? |
| 16:36.58 | Shadowpillar | my coding sucks, chances are, I'd destroy a computer |
| 16:37.11 | Shadowpillar | bash shell is about the only thing I can somewhat code |
| 16:37.31 | Shadowpillar | jbevren: minimalistic x86 bootloader |
| 16:39.06 | Shadowpillar | jbevren: ie, something that won't have issues booting under 4mb of ram |
| 16:39.15 | Shadowpillar | like 1mb of ram or so |
| 16:39.30 | jbevren | ohh |
| 16:39.39 | jbevren | 1M? |
| 16:39.45 | jbevren | you can fit a kernel and userspace in that? :) |
| 16:40.02 | Shadowpillar | gonna attempt to with rtlinux |
| 16:40.07 | jbevren | ahh rt. |
| 16:40.55 | jbevren | do you have a bios? |
| 16:40.55 | Shadowpillar | small linux was able to do it with a 2.0.0 kernel |
| 16:40.55 | Shadowpillar | yes |
| 16:40.55 | jbevren | why not lilo? |
| 16:40.55 | Shadowpillar | 16 mhz 80386 with SIPPS ram |
| 16:40.55 | Shadowpillar | tried lilo, it didnt like it |
| 16:41.02 | jbevren | really |
| 16:41.14 | jbevren | cause lilo's about as simple as you get (it doesnt even understand filesystems) |
| 16:41.20 | jbevren | what are you loading from |
| 16:41.38 | Shadowpillar | right now.. nothing :/ |
| 16:41.51 | jbevren | <- confused |
| 16:41.58 | jbevren | you want to boot your system from nothing? :) |
| 16:42.10 | jbevren | if you have a netcard, you might try etherboot |
| 16:44.17 | Shadowpillar | no |
| 16:44.25 | Shadowpillar | I just have nothing booting it atm |
| 16:44.28 | Shadowpillar | I tried grub |
| 16:44.41 | Shadowpillar | grub spazzes out when it cant utilize 4 mb |
| 16:44.54 | Shadowpillar | the machine is apart again |
| 16:45.44 | jbevren | so |
| 16:45.44 | jbevren | what are you loading from? |
| 16:45.44 | Shadowpillar | plan on booting from hard disk |
| 16:45.44 | jbevren | what did lilo giv you when you attempted to boot with it? |
| 16:45.51 | jbevren | I've argued with lilo before ;-) |
| 16:45.55 | jbevren | most of my systems still use it |
| 16:48.06 | Shadowpillar | it rebooted |
| 16:48.15 | Shadowpillar | no error output |
| 16:48.39 | Shadowpillar | I also dislike lilo |
| 16:49.04 | jbevren | I somehow doubt that was lilo. it's known to loop its error codes, but Ive never seen it reset |
| 16:49.11 | jbevren | You can look at the in-kernel bootloader too |
| 16:49.19 | jbevren | unlike other platforms, the x86 kernel can load itself |
| 16:49.42 | jbevren | I tried dd'ign a kernel to a hard-disk partition once without success though, Ive only got it to work from floppy |
| 16:51.18 | Shadowpillar | I know elks has a way to load kernels directly off the HDD |
| 16:51.27 | Shadowpillar | I forgot what it does |
| 16:52.00 | sorphin | Shadowpillar: syslinux would work, but you have to have a very small dos partition or something atleast |
| 16:52.17 | Shadowpillar | jbevren: will uboot work for x86? |
| 16:52.22 | jbevren | dunno |
| 16:52.47 | sorphin | jbevren: been dreaming of the ppc board? :P |
| 16:53.09 | jbevren | sorphin: I dreamt I woke up with it in bed, all naked |
| 16:53.22 | sorphin | uhh |
| 16:53.30 | sorphin | more than i wanna know about dude |
| 16:53.45 | jbevren | haha |
| 16:56.53 | sorphin | su |
| 16:56.54 | sorphin | p |
| 16:59.02 | jbevren | nada |
| 16:59.05 | jbevren | waiting for a friend |
| 17:01.17 | jbevren | this'll be a while |
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| 17:05.26 | Genesis | bonne soiree / good evening |
| 17:05.27 | sorphin | prpplague: yeeehaw |
| 17:08.51 | prpplague | yeee dogieee |
| 17:11.29 | sorphin | prpplague: whats up hillbilly? |
| 17:14.16 | prpplague | nada, just getting organized for trip tomorrow |
| 17:14.28 | prpplague | need to finish a kiosk i've been working on |
| 17:14.35 | prpplague | the customer is getting anxious |
| 17:15.02 | prpplague | totally unmotivated to work on anything other than disassembling the juicebox bootroom |
| 17:15.20 | prpplague | i've just about decided that i'm gonna have to invest in a bdi2000 |
| 17:16.25 | prpplague | sorphin: disassebled arm asm is hard to follow when they've use alot of subroutines |
| 17:17.05 | jbevren | why juicebox? |
| 17:17.56 | prpplague | jbevren: what? |
| 17:18.36 | jbevren | wondering why the juicebox is attractive :) |
| 17:18.47 | jbevren | honestly, Ive never looked into one |
| 17:19.43 | sorphin | now this ppc board ;) |
| 17:19.51 | jbevren | there are some gadgets at the local junk store that are remotely attractive |
| 17:20.05 | jbevren | I forget what theyre called, some media player that needed proprietary media |
| 17:20.05 | sorphin | such as? |
| 17:20.09 | sorphin | ah |
| 17:20.18 | jbevren | theyre selling for les sthan $10 I think |
| 17:20.40 | jbevren | anyone know of a way to fill iptables wiht a list of IPs quickly? :) |
| 17:20.48 | jbevren | a for:do:done loop is slow for 22000 :) |
| 17:21.09 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:21.26 | sorphin | pf |
| 17:21.41 | jbevren | 14000 loaded after 5 mins |
| 17:21.43 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:22.08 | prpplague | jbevren: 1) its arm, 2) it has some nice features as a portable device 3) its a good device to learn from |
| 17:22.11 | jbevren | sorphin: actually, I have some millenium cards |
| 17:22.18 | sorphin | jbevren: ? |
| 17:22.22 | jbevren | might make a workstation out of the ppc :) |
| 17:22.24 | prpplague | jbevren: my toy hacks are mainly to lean |
| 17:22.30 | sorphin | prpplague: that's the thing.. arm arm arm |
| 17:22.31 | jbevren | prpplague: I see :) |
| 17:22.41 | sorphin | there's more to life than arm |
| 17:22.46 | jbevren | prpplague: I've got the AGT firmware on my zipits |
| 17:22.49 | jbevren | so I understand :0 |
| 17:22.50 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.18 | jbevren | yeah but without arms how will you type :) |
| 17:23.36 | sorphin | you know what i mean |
| 17:23.37 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:23.39 | jbevren | :D |
| 17:24.21 | jbevren | man I bet the drone net that's attacking our server could take microsoft out |
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| 17:25.09 | sorphin | jbevren: we stopped an UltraDNS attack last weekend |
| 17:25.19 | sorphin | over a million+ packets per second |
| 17:25.25 | jbevren | ahh |
| 17:25.28 | prpplague | sorphin: yes there are more procs out there than arm, but arm is what is making me money |
| 17:25.29 | jbevren | well, this one's actually small |
| 17:25.30 | jbevren | its just a pita |
| 17:25.40 | jbevren | they send random data to port 80 |
| 17:25.45 | prpplague | sorphin: the more i know about arm, the better i can make money |
| 17:25.55 | jbevren | its handy, cause I can just scan the error_log |
| 17:25.59 | sorphin | jbevren: does justin frankel ring any bells? heh |
| 17:26.09 | jbevren | (I actually tail -f it and parse IPs into iptables) |
| 17:26.49 | jbevren | who's he? |
| 17:27.10 | sorphin | wrote winamp or someshit |
| 17:27.25 | sorphin | stupid dsl customer |
| 17:27.44 | sorphin | he's being packeted, so he disconencts the host being hit which causes even MORE traffic |
| 17:27.52 | sorphin | cuz of the ICMP unreachables |
| 17:28.26 | jbevren | 16,800 loaded |
| 17:28.34 | jbevren | and it's only in the 6's |
| 17:28.39 | jbevren | (alphanum sort) |
| 17:28.52 | jbevren | f/ing APF cleared my firewall |
| 17:29.02 | jbevren | so I purged apf :) |
| 17:32.50 | jbevren | sorphin[mini]: this attack is difficult to block by CIDR blocks |
| 17:33.05 | jbevren | they intentionally only use 2-3 systems per block |
| 17:39.22 | jbevren | the biggest flood I'd seen had heavy impact on the switch&data facility in Philly |
| 17:39.32 | jbevren | we got hit by about 4Gbit of udp |
| 17:40.03 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:40.08 | pb_ | hi prpplague |
| 17:40.14 | sorphin | that's all? :P |
| 17:41.03 | jbevren | considering we only had 3, and our datacenter line was 800Mbit |
| 17:41.04 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:41.16 | prpplague | pb_: hey hey |
| 17:41.20 | jbevren | it took us an hour to get the router reconfigured on the other end through all the packet loss |
| 17:41.23 | sorphin | jbevren: oops |
| 17:41.26 | prpplague | pb_: still chugging along on this bootrom |
| 17:41.36 | prpplague | pb_: my arm asm is getting better though, hehe |
| 17:41.48 | prpplague | pb_: they just have a ton of bl's to keep track of |
| 17:41.58 | prpplague | pb_: hows things in the UK today |
| 17:42.46 | sorphin | prpplague: why you gotta come back here? |
| 17:43.29 | prpplague | sorphin: i have to re-file my taxes, and do some meetings |
| 17:44.01 | sorphin | ah |
| 17:45.04 | pb_ | prpplague: not too bad. spent most of the day shredding old paperwork, and doing other stuff around the house. |
| 17:48.02 | pb_ | also updating the schematic for a little avr board I've been working on. |
| 17:48.28 | Shadowpillar | http://www.erikyyy.de/invaders/ haha, who's seen this? |
| 17:51.05 | prpplague | pb_: lovely |
| 17:51.41 | prpplague | pb_: quick question, when doing "mov r0, r1" your moving the value in r1 into r0 correct? |
| 17:53.46 | pb_ | prpplague: right |
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| 18:19.14 | prpplague | pb_: can't seem to find the point at which the bootrom jumps to ram |
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| 19:41.31 | fishhead | THX FOR NOTHING |
| 19:42.03 | fishhead | unbeliable |
| 19:42.09 | fishhead | palm OWNED THE FREAKING MARKET |
| 19:42.12 | fishhead | and they blew it |
| 19:51.08 | pb_ | prpplague: that's odd |
| 19:51.59 | pb_ | should just be something like "mov pc, #0x80000000" or whatever the ram base address is. |
| 19:53.01 | prpplague | pb_: yea, been looking like crazy, but this loader is full of bl's |
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| 19:53.54 | pb_ | probably wouldn't use a "bl" to jump to ram: it's likely to be too far away. |
| 19:54.04 | pb_ | and, generally, you wouldn't expect to return from the ram code |
| 19:55.31 | prpplague | pb_: right, i just mean its hard to follow what is returning from where |
| 19:56.36 | pb_ | ah right, I see |
| 19:58.58 | prpplague | pb_: looks like it has three methods of operation |
| 19:59.19 | prpplague | pb_: first if it has a sd card inserted it copies a small uclinux bootloader into ram |
| 19:59.36 | prpplague | pb_: second if there is no cart or sd card it copies itself into ram |
| 19:59.58 | prpplague | pb_: third if there is cart inserted, it copies the bootloader from the cart into ram |
| 20:00.18 | prpplague | pb_: but i can seem to find where it jumps to the ram |
| 20:03.46 | fishhead | you guys talking about the juicebox? |
| 20:04.40 | prpplague | yes |
| 20:04.49 | fishhead | please continue |
| 20:05.49 | fishhead | btw I found out something weird, this old 1998 fm transmitter I have if I hookup juicebox to it, it picks up a lot of noise into my car radio, but much clearer off my palm t5 using the same transmitter, must have some emi bouncing off the headphone jack |
| 20:06.00 | fishhead | not important though, just insteresting |
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| 20:40.14 | prpplague | argh this code is really hard to follow |
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| 22:19.14 | Shadowpillar | to work with this rtlinux patch |
| 22:19.16 | cdm | 2.2.19? Living on the edge huh? |
| 22:19.27 | Shadowpillar | the newer rtlinux shit uses 2.4 |
| 22:19.32 | Shadowpillar | 2.4 isnt size friendly |
| 22:19.54 | Shadowpillar | neither is 2.6, even with embedded options on |
| 22:20.06 | cdm | how small is small for you? |
| 22:20.09 | Shadowpillar | unless the new patches for 2.6 will reduce the execution size drastically |
| 22:20.46 | Shadowpillar | 300 k or less with memory size less than 1mb |
| 22:20.51 | Shadowpillar | it's achievable |
| 22:21.45 | cdm | yep. Just wondering what you are targetting. |
| 22:22.03 | Shadowpillar | a 16 mhz 80386SX with 1 mb of SIPPS ram |
| 22:22.05 | Shadowpillar | or 2 mb |
| 22:22.09 | Shadowpillar | it doesn't even know |
| 22:22.29 | Shadowpillar | sometimes it reads the banks as 512k each or as 256k each |
| 22:23.03 | Shadowpillar | I know small linux achieved to work under less than 1 mb |
| 22:23.09 | Shadowpillar | with a 2.0 kernel |
| 22:23.15 | Shadowpillar | but severely limited |
| 22:23.30 | cdm | yeah - I wouldn't bother with a linux kernel in that situation myself. |
| 22:23.31 | Shadowpillar | rtlinux is supposed to cut a lot of the fat |
| 22:23.39 | Shadowpillar | what would you suggest? |
| 22:24.39 | Shadowpillar | besides dos |
| 22:25.03 | cdm | any RTOS would do really. |
| 22:25.23 | Shadowpillar | such as ecos or rtlinux? |
| 22:30.19 | cdm | ecos, vxworks, qnx, lynxos |
| 22:30.38 | cdm | rtlinux's rtos core really isn't useable unless you also run the full kernel 'task'. |
| 22:40.45 | Shadowpillar | not saying I'm gonna use it, but isnt BeOS realtime as well? |
| 22:42.34 | jbevren | I think it is |
| 22:42.57 | Shadowpillar | I know it and os/2 have true multitasking |
| 22:45.20 | jbevren | BeOS is supposed to be highly responsive etc |
| 22:45.32 | jbevren | of course, Amiga wasnt realtime, but it was fast enough to be used as a realtime OS |
| 22:45.38 | jbevren | (on 8mhz cpu's no less) |
| 22:46.29 | Shadowpillar | yeah |
| 22:46.39 | Shadowpillar | linux could do a lot better |
| 22:46.59 | Shadowpillar | my question is, with all this in mind, how come no one really makes such improvements to linux? |
| 22:47.05 | jbevren | rtlinux you mean? |
| 22:47.13 | Shadowpillar | making a true multitasking kernel |
| 22:47.27 | Shadowpillar | and as responsive as say, beos is |
| 22:47.31 | jbevren | Linux is primarly used for servers, which don't really need realtime capacity |
| 22:47.40 | jbevren | but I know your standpoint.. |
| 22:47.53 | jbevren | I use JACK on a non-realtime kernel.. it sucks :) |
| 22:49.43 | Shadowpillar | and this os supposedly the beacon of the opensource community? linux is good, no doubt, but for multimedia and the desktop, it's lacking, severely |
| 22:49.45 | Shadowpillar | as is windows |
| 22:50.11 | Shadowpillar | even with pre-emptive support it's slow |
| 22:50.17 | Shadowpillar | and even buggy |
| 22:50.18 | jbevren | Linux isnt ready for end-users. ;-) |
| 22:50.27 | jbevren | FCC To Require Backdoor Network Access for Feds |
| 22:50.36 | jbevren | Welcome to America, land of the Free! ..er.. |
| 22:50.39 | Shadowpillar | ... |
| 22:50.42 | Shadowpillar | fuck the fcc |
| 22:51.31 | jbevren | government will be asking broadband providers [and router manufacturers] to build insecure backdoors into their networks |
| 22:51.55 | jbevren | (first story on slashdot) |
| 22:59.43 | jbevren | I guess it's really time for me to get a server with unlimited bandwidth and VPN every little packet I do over a blowfish'ed tunnel |
| 22:59.46 | jbevren | heh |
| 23:02.34 | Shadowpillar | hahaha |
| 23:02.41 | Shadowpillar | I doubt that will come to be |
| 23:02.48 | Shadowpillar | they can only ask |
| 23:02.51 | Shadowpillar | they cant enforce |
| 23:02.59 | Shadowpillar | and if they do, it can be taken to court |
| 23:03.11 | Shadowpillar | and the fcc will be laughed out of court |
| 23:03.20 | Shadowpillar | the FCC can only suggest when it comes down to it |
| 23:03.34 | Shadowpillar | they dont have that much power |
| 23:03.58 | Shadowpillar | they arent an elected branch of the govt |
| 23:04.13 | jbevren | yeah, but the dmca got passed ;-) |
| 23:04.20 | jbevren | that started as a suggestion |
| 23:04.24 | Shadowpillar | yeah |
| 23:04.29 | jbevren | see, I like the US, its my country |
| 23:04.35 | Shadowpillar | but now, they're thinking about revising it |
| 23:04.37 | Shadowpillar | it's only an act |
| 23:04.38 | jbevren | so dont think I'm irrationaly hateful :) |
| 23:04.50 | Shadowpillar | and cities and states can choose not to follow it |
| 23:05.24 | Shadowpillar | there are already townships and cities that dont recognise the patriot act |
| 23:05.39 | jbevren | nond |
| 23:05.40 | Shadowpillar | thus, if the feds wanna bust someone in that city under a revision of the patriot act, they cant |
| 23:05.52 | jbevren | feds: I want to bust your citizen |
| 23:05.55 | jbevren | city: screw off bozo |
| 23:05.56 | jbevren | :) |
| 23:06.01 | jbevren | I should get a list of those cities and move |
| 23:06.03 | Shadowpillar | until it's signed as a law |
| 23:06.39 | jbevren | ah, right |
| 23:06.46 | Shadowpillar | and even then, a law can be revoked if it's seen as a breach of the bill of rights or the constitution |
| 23:06.56 | jbevren | and now theyre going to push the rfid-under-your-skin concept |
| 23:07.03 | jbevren | I'm so going to learn how to copy those |
| 23:07.10 | jbevren | carry someone else's rfid around |
| 23:07.11 | jbevren | :D |
| 23:07.58 | Shadowpillar | the only upside to the new guy bush elected despite his anti abortion thing (though repealing the roe vs. wade decision won't do anything, once again, state laws) is that he won't tolerate the crap from the RIAA and MPAA |
| 23:08.21 | jbevren | ahh |
| 23:08.37 | jbevren | so theyre battling the corporate totalatarianism the country has become |
| 23:08.47 | jbevren | its my full belief that we're ruled by 3 entities |
| 23:08.53 | jbevren | and none are in washington DC |
| 23:08.55 | Shadowpillar | and he's prolly be one of the guys who would strike down any such fcc standard that will require the intrusion of peoples rights and security |
| 23:09.01 | jbevren | MPAA, RIAA, and Microsoft |
| 23:09.08 | Shadowpillar | lol |
| 23:09.15 | jbevren | its not funny if you look into it :) |
| 23:09.22 | Shadowpillar | I know |
| 23:09.30 | Shadowpillar | it was like this around 100 years ago |
| 23:14.13 | *** join/#elinux Shadow_pillar (~Shadow@pool0157.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net) |
| 23:14.30 | Shadow_pillar | gotta remember, people will get pissed and about half the crap being passed atm will be struck down in the future |
| 23:16.52 | *** join/#elinux cdm (~cdm@adsl-69-109-252-94.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 23:22.43 | jbevren | haha |
| 23:22.49 | jbevren | lysdexia kicks in |
| 23:23.00 | jbevren | cdm joined and I thought wtf is cbm doing here (cbm is a bot of mine) |
| 23:23.09 | cdm | hahaha... |
| 23:23.14 | jbevren | greets |
| 23:23.29 | cdm | although when I used to work at home and was on IRC 24h/day people accused me of being a bot. ;) |
| 23:23.58 | jbevren | I've had that happen |
| 23:24.07 | jbevren | my nick is somewhat cryptic I guess |
| 23:24.25 | jbevren | I went away for vacation and when I returned like 5 new people said wtf he's not a bot |
| 23:24.48 | cdm | :) |
| 23:24.59 | jbevren | purge takin' a while :) |
| 23:25.09 | jbevren | (cleaning a firewall with 28,000 blocks in it) |
| 23:25.25 | jbevren | man.. modifying the firewall causes serious latency :) |
| 23:27.14 | ShadowRage | yeah, cpu cycles |
| 23:27.27 | ShadowRage | I might move my firewall drive to my ibm aptiva |
| 23:27.36 | jbevren | well I figure also, a packet headed through the firewall may be delayed pending resolution fo the firewall change |
| 23:27.48 | ShadowRage | because the other 486 I have is an SX board |
| 23:27.55 | ShadowRage | which sucks donkey dick |
| 23:28.00 | jbevren | nod |
| 23:28.02 | ShadowRage | and I cant up the ram in it |
| 23:28.04 | jbevren | this is a server under active attack |
| 23:28.14 | jbevren | I have some 28,000 -j DROPs on -mstate NEW |
| 23:28.24 | jbevren | (the drops are in a separate chain for efficiency) |
| 23:33.27 | jbevren | grr. whats regex for end of line? |
| 23:33.29 | jbevren | (for sed) |
| 23:34.00 | cdm | $ |
| 23:34.17 | cdm | foo$ |
| 23:34.35 | jbevren | hmm |
| 23:34.41 | jbevren | so I can replace EOL with another char using $? |
| 23:35.00 | jbevren | neat.. but it still has an EOL :P |
| 23:35.11 | cdm | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:35.20 | jbevren | I want to accumulate the total of a list of numbers in a text file |
| 23:35.22 | jbevren | one line per number |
| 23:38.30 | cdm | tr -d '\n' |
| 23:40.58 | jbevren | they get one chance to attack and are blocked |
| 23:40.59 | jbevren | oops |
| 23:41.05 | jbevren | thanks! |
| 23:41.07 | jbevren | worked:) |
| 23:42.08 | cdm | yeah, tr is a great tool that people often forget about. |
| 23:45.25 | jbevren | I'm guilty |
| 23:45.27 | jbevren | and I'm a shell whore :) |
| 23:45.37 | jbevren | (sorry if thats not an acceptable word) |
| 23:45.50 | cdm | hahaha...it's fine by me. |
| 23:45.58 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:46.25 | jbevren | I just know some dont like 'questionable' words :) |
| 23:46.52 | jbevren | I'm getting better at typing on this zipit :P |
| 23:47.17 | cdm | yeah, that is true. |
| 23:47.29 | cdm | Tim gets a little upset - wants it to be family friendly. ;) |
| 23:48.45 | jbevren | I agree completely with keeping it professional |
| 23:48.54 | jbevren | no gay fartgut stuff |
| 23:48.55 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:53.52 | jbevren | bbl |
| 23:53.54 | jbevren | cdm: thanks fo rthe tr :) |
| 23:56.30 | cdm | no worries |